October 21, 2025 • 50 mins
Pete Helliar chats with the hilarious and multi-talented Emma Holland, comedian, Taskmaster Australia winner, and now children’s author! Her debut book Stories for the Kid Next Door is already a hit, and she’s gearing up for a brand new comedy show on the festival circuit. From Julia Roberts’ surprising depth to Hugh Grant’s very British charm, Emma shares her heartfelt (and hilarious) take on why the film still shines today.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thank you day, Peter, Hell are you here? Welcome to
(00:02):
you ain't seen nothing yet. The Movie Podcast where our
chat to a movie lover about a classic or beloved
movie they haven't quite got around to watching until now.
Today's guest comedian Emma Holland.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
All below.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I want to stay you with you.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
The job waits, snake sucked, hid me, haven't a right
(00:53):
Emma Holland, She's more than a comedian. She's now a
Bone of Fidy children's author. A new book, Her debut book,
Stories for the Kid next Door, is going gangbusters. It
looks fantastic, illustrated by the extremely talented Chris Cannett. As
soon as I saw that Emma was releasing a kid's book,
(01:15):
I thought, yep, this makes absolute sense. Emma is a
comedian who has been making massive waves in the Australian
and international comedy scene over the last few years through
stand up shows the Melbourne International Comedy Festival and all
around Australia in fact, and also the Edinburgh Fringe Festival,
where she's playing to sell out crowds. She's absolutely killing it.
(01:37):
If you get your comedy via the TV, you would
have seen Emma killing it on the cheap seats. I
thank god you're here and have you been Paying Attention?
I've had the pleasure of doing a number of episodes
of Have You Been Paying Attention with Emma, and she's
an absolute joy to play with on that show. She's
actually just a really fun, lovely, funny person to hang
(02:02):
around with. She also I just shouldn't bury the lead
because the winner of I think of season four of
Taskmaster Australia. She was hilarious on that season and a
well deserved winner. You can catch and she's working on
a brand new show which will hit the festival circuit
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in Australia and I'm sure Edinburgh next year. She does
have a title for us, she told me off air,
but she's not ready to announce it yet. It is
the title alone is worth the price of the ticket.
So go check Emma Holland both live. Get her new book,
Story for the Kid next Door, and you can listen
to it right here, because I'm bloody stoked to be
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hanging with Emma Holland today. Yes, we are back with
Emma Holland today, Notting hill Ise. We're talking about Welcome back, Emma,
thanks coming back, Thank you for having me before we
get into Notting Hill. I can't wait to I'm almost
a little bit nervous about whether you like this film
or not. But we encourage all our listeners to get
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onto our speak part this, follow the links and leave
a message about maybe I guess you want to hear
a movie, something you've heard, something you would like to hear,
and Luke has done exactly that. Let's have listened to Look.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
At the time I believe you had twenty twenty three
said you hadn't seen the banshes of being a sharer
in terms of your best movies of that year. Have
you seen it since? I don't believe you've spoken about it.
I could be wrong. I may have missed a podcast,
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but I would love to know your thoughts on it.
I think it's one of the best movies I've seen
in decades. I'd love to know your thoughts on why.
If you do like it, you maybe you didn't, and
if you didn't, fuck you, but if you didn't, why
They didn't actually win many, many, many awards in terms
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of Colin Farrell and Brendan Gleeson and Let It Go,
You know, Karen Condon and Barry Carigan. She is my
love the show.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Thank yous have quite a violent energy. A couple of weeks,
I don't respect you at all.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
On a couple of weeks ago, was was very he
was very, very loved the show. But there was an
episode of Fight Club with Kate lane Brook and he
did not appreciate Kate's viewing or Brad Pitt.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Really that's interesting. I wouldn't I want to have picked
that from a film, bro.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
So, I yes, I did see the bench ad Insurance
not long after probably I recorded that episode, and yeah,
I loved it. Have you seen the Banches of Insurance? Yeah?
I had to. I see it. I saw it twice.
Like the Paul Thomas Anderson factor, I have massive expectations
when I go to watch a Martin McDonough film. So
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we're doing it in Bruges and three billboards OUTSI Devan Missouri.
He's also his brother. He made that Cavalry, which is
an awesome film as well. But then Bruce, He's one
of my favorite films of all the time. And I
watched it with my son, I think during lockdown and
he's he's going to Europe and he wants to go
to the BRUEs for that but yeah, I I did
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have to watch it the second time because the first
time I watched Banshees, I did have a feeling of like,
I wouldn't mind a little bit more pace in this film.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I thought you said couldn't understand a word that I
had to watch it twice with some title that was
that as well.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
But I love I love the setting of it, and
he just kind of once Brendan Gleason's character told Colin
Farrell that, you know, he doesn't want to be friends anymore. Yeah,
I was kind of expecting maybe it's a little bit
more escalation. I mean, I know there was the cutting
off of fingers, which you could count as escalation, But
then the city I went and sort of a second
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time and didn't bother me. I just kind of like
I sunk into it a little wash over me a
bit more. And I've loved it now. I've he seen
it four or five times.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I think Barry Kerrigan's performances that is amazing.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
He's incredible.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
He's just he's a freak. He's so good.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah. This is young people you see who just I
feel like they're old soul.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Young Irish folk. Yeah, something in them at the moment.
I don't know what's going on up there, but.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
There is something going on because I remember seeing him.
I think killing him a sacred year. I think it's
the first saw Great film. Yeah, that was, and then
it was The American Animals, the art heist film. He
was great in that, and he's just been constantly great. Yeah,
salt Burn obviously more recently he's great. But Brennan Gleeson's
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is so watchable. Colin Farrell. I love Colin Farrell's career,
but you know how he kind of went through that.
I do remember Chris Rock making fun of him at
the Oscars, kind of something that you know, if you can't,
if you can't, you know, Afford Russell Crowe, you get,
you know, Colin Farrell almost calling him the team kind
of Colin Ferrell. And I just that he's kind of
he's found his way and he's just, you know, a
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bit like Hugh Grant, who we'll chat about today. Like
he Grant. I love how he owns his career now
and he's doing different things and he's got got a
good sense of humor about the things in his past.
And yeah, good on him, but good on it.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Someone's got to say, have you.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Seen the Three Billboards outside Having Missouri? Yes, that is
an amazing film. That is as well, it was a
long time ago.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
I actually don't remember much about it.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
So Frandz mcdonmant wins the oscar. I got it. I
get it.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Confused with nomad Land a lot, even though they are very.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Different, very different, very different. Yes, that's yeah. Her daughter
is quite a dark you know, obviously Mark McDonald writes
pretty darkly. But yeah, her daughter was raped and killed
and the police aren't doing anything about it enough, so
she puts the three billboards outside of the town asking
why they haven't done things, and it causes a racus
in town and an amazing cast of Sam Rockwell, Peter
(07:57):
Dinklage and yeah friend dormant Peter.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Sam. I forgot Peter Dnklish, wasn't it. Yes, Yeah, he's
my bro close personal front.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeah. I never forget taking Peter Dinklish to the comics lounge.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Still wait, did you?
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Yeah, because the peel things in my movie that mate,
So yeah, I'm.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Sorry, I was making fun. I was like, I thought
you were just saying a celebrity and being like, yeah,
we know each other.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
But oh, no, you actually do know you have done
that about forty times during this podcast, already pretending that
Regie mcgannon's is trying to phone into the podcast.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
No.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Yes, Peter thinklidh in. I love you too. So that
was just before you did Game of Thrones. So yeah,
and I into the Comics lounge one night and it
was it was just so surreal they have him there, yeah,
hanging and he was, yeah, he loved it, had a
great night. Did he get up? He didn't get up.
I think kind of query whether he was interested at all,
and he was like, no, it's want of yeah, because
he surprised me. You tooked me out for dinner with
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all the Fox with the X Men people, with Hugh
Jackman there, and he and I said I need to
go to this gig at some point and then I
said okay, I should go and he goes, oh, we're
coming with you me and some of the Fox publicism
that of car already and it's great life.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
This is pre g O T.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
So that we got. The next thing he did was
g O T. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Wow. Do you talk to him still, yes, but he's
like he's.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Very like email and he's he's very he does a
thing where you email him and you'll get back to you,
and then you'll email again. He'll get back one more time,
and then if you email a third time, he's like, no,
I'm moving on now, But not in a not in
a not in a weird way. It's just like enough
because he does get back quickly to you, but he yes.
(09:42):
And whenever Angela Bishop goes over to do the Emmys
and he wins something and he's in the press conference,
you'll always ask about me to him, and he said
lovely He said lovely things, which is like.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
A really nice guy. He's got to stop emailing me.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yeah, I can't come on to think. I think the
coolest guy I've ever met, though, could easily could easily
be astound a comedian, Like when you said, did you
get up? Like I kind of forgot that you have
a minimum, so like, he could easily be comedian. He's
got that sensibility. As soon as he arrived on set,
we were just like, yeah, yeah, so annoying.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
When you meet people like that, you're like, oh, you
wouldn't have to try, Yeah, it would enough to work, Like.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Us, I know, why can't this be the talented active one.
You know, that's not the comedians. This did their thing,
but he could easily, you know, be coming. Anyway, Let's
get on to talk about the movie we are here
to talk about from nineteen ninety nine and Nodding Hill,
directed by Roger Mitchell, written by Richard Curtis Hugh Grant.
Julia Roberts said Julia Morris.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I was going to say, Julia's a mirror.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Both would have been excellent.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Oh god, yeah, would have been amazing, and it was maybe.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
They would have absolutely smashed electric, absolutely smashed it, but
it wasn't to be. Julia Roberts got the role Emma Holm.
Did you enjoy Notting Hill?
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yeah? I loved it, Obviously I loved it. My favorite
movie is About Time, Yes, of course I loved it.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
When you said about Time last week, I was like, Okay,
this is a little hints boating well that you might
enjoy notting Hill, because I think you because your three
favorite films last week we're Finding Nemo, about Time, and
Boiling Point. Particularly about Time and Finding Nemo. It says
to me that you approach films with the open heartedness,
lack of cynicism.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I do, but you know what my favorite genre is horror.
I think of balance. I think I have my you know,
I know where to put my energy. I think that's
what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
So, you didn't have a horror film in your top
three last week? What would be your favorite horror film?
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Either It Follows or Barbarian which was both very pretty
recent films. It's incredible.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Yeah, okay, I want to get too sidetracked on Barbarians
or It Follows. So you said last week you knew
couple of things about but not too many things about
Noting Hill. You knew that the line I'm just a girl.
You know, you knew there was a movie star.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
It was iconic. It was Richard Curtis.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yes, did anything What surprised you? What did you like
about it?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
The big thing that surprised me was his approach to
women in the film, Especially for something that came out
in the nineties, it seemed I couldn't believe the amount
of depth Julia Roberts's character had, and like every single
decision she made. I mean, I think it's also a
test to her as an actor. But every single decision
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she made and every like negative aspect of her personality
came from a deeper truth. It wasn't just like she
was being based on the stereotype of what he thought,
you know, a woman was. So I think I was
just genuinely surprised at how well she was depicted and
how the aspect of her being a woman in media
(12:57):
was yeah depicted as well.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Yeah, because she does drive the film as much as
she's the one often is the cause of the relationship
falling apart, but she's the one making the choice is
good and bad. When Hugh Grant so recently said that
whenever he comes across his film on TV, he's flicking around,
the first thing he thinks of is why doesn't my
character have any balls? And is a bit is a
(13:23):
bit soft?
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I really like what I just thought he was quite British.
That was my read, and that was like, you know, so.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
This comes five years after Four Weddings and a Funeral,
which is have you seen Four Weddings? No, it's.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Famously i'ven't ever seen a film before two thousand and five.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
I had a feeling you mentioned that, so I just
thought i'd ask anyway, Four Weddings is a great film.
In fact, the director of that, Mark Null, was asked
to direct notting Hill. He said, no, I've already made
that film, you know. And and when Richard Curtis actually
saw the first cut of Notting Hill, he was a
bit disappointed because he thought, I think I've made Four
Weddings again, because it's it's again. It's it's it's Hugh
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Grant falling in love with an American woman and all
this friends around them, and it's certainly got a similar vibe.
I would say that they are different, different enough, but yes,
he Grant. This was a Richard Curtis came up with
his own little industry here and him and Hugh Grant.
This seemed to work. He could write really well for
(14:20):
Hugh Grant. I think Hugh Grant could deliver Richard Curtis
lines really well.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
It was also the first time I've kind of gotten
Hugh Grant. I mean, I saw him in Bridget Jones
as a kid, and I like, but I saw him
as like someone my mom was into, Like my mom
had a crush on him. And then I think, just
because of you know, the age he has been while
I've been growing up with films, he's always just seemed
like an older figure in movies and people talk about
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him like he's this like absolute dream broke, Like they
talking about him like his Harry styles or something, and
I was like, kind of, I guess, so, I guess
he's like beautiful. But then I saw him in this
movie and I was like, oh, I get it. And
it wasn't just like about appearance. It was just about
like the the riz I suppose.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah. Well, the the Bridget Jones character that he plays
always felt to me like there's a bit of a
wink to the audience who already knew who Grant from
for weddings and notting Hill is kind of go oh,
the guy that you loved so much, who was like
the good guy, now he's playing yeah, the bastard.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Yeah see, I've only known him from yeah bustard onwards.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
That's that's so fascinating because he really was like he
was the biggest you know, you know actor in his
genre around this time. And he's also what's interesting about
the casting is Julia Roberts also had some like weird
kind of media kind of intrusion and became fighter for
the perhaps and I think it was going through some
(15:43):
relationship issues. I think there might have been a family
breakdown and then she anyway without reliving at all. It's
just too painful for me because I was the man
in the middle of that break.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I didn't want to bring it up, but I knew.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
I did know. And then of course Hugh Granted around
about ninety five ninety six, you know, he's found with
Divine Brown. This this prostitute or sex worker on the
Sunset Strip, like you know, having a performing a sex actress.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Grant this is the most like I think I knew
about all this, but this is such like yeah, nineties
paparazzi gossip. It's like vintage was a nostalgia to it.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
But what's amazing is when Hugh Grant got busted, you know,
the munk shop went around, and then he appeared on
Jay Leno like the next night, and like this kind
of took responsibility and kind of and I was like, Wow,
that wouldn't happen now you you would? You would? You
would you know, get get somebody to up something on
your Instagram, you put out a tile and you just
(16:48):
so they know you're serious exactly, so you wouldn't necessarily
go on a talk show which is comedic in front
of an audience like Yep, that was that was wasn't
it got a yeah blah blah blah blah. Yeah, so
it's yeah. I really kind of in a way admired
you Grant for that. Like there were times when people
(17:09):
just make these these mistakes go on and on and
on because they don't you know, I'm not sure how
many people would have done.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
What he did, but what about the guts?
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Yeah, if you did a crime, you did a time
on Jay Leno. But yeah, so they the casting was
kind of they were both going through They weren't necessarily
cold as actors, but they were weren't as hot as
they had been so and they had both had this
kind of weird relationship with fame and media. So they
put them both in the same film.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
And then like explore those topics, explose topics.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
I think is really amazing. Have you been the notting
Hill at all?
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Of you? Like?
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (17:51):
And I saw Kenneth Brenner walking down the street and
I was like, this is living. I've made it. I'm
in notting Hill and that's Kenneth Brenner. He was wearing
yellow tinted sunglasses and I thought, that's yeah, that checks out.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
The blue door still there.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
I actually don't know because I hadn't seen the film
when I when I went, so I don't think I
understood the way. I just I was meeting a friend
to we went and got Caribbean food.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
The blue door is obviously became a little bit iconic,
and people that was actually the house that belonged to
Richard Curtis, really yes, and then he since moved out,
and then people would go and have photos of the
blue door. People who live in there got cigarette they
painted it black, and then they I think they sold.
And then I think they think the door is somewhere
else now but it's a different door, or it's been
(18:38):
it's been painted back the blue. But yeah, and so
and what did you what did you know of Julia
Roberts then, because she hasn't done as much stuff like
because she again was you know, we still Magnolia's and
pretty woman. Particularly she was the most famous person in
the world for a lot.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
I knew she had that Mona Lisa smilely smile not
about her well, I knew she was like a like
the iconic actress of the of the nineties and everything
I've seen her and I think she's like Aeron Brockovich amazing.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
It was a year after this and she wins the
Oscar for that.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Yeah, oh that was sorry, that was pretty two thousand
and four and we go one. But yeah, I always
thought she was quite brilliant and then yeah, I just
was electrified by her. Yeah, just like, yeah, incredible.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
And obviously there's a there's the moment of actually we'll
say it till late. I want to jump too far,
too far ahead. There is a moment I want to
talk about, which which is because I really, I really
like this film. It's very watchable. It's I would have
(19:47):
seen it many many times, not ness the whole thing
as many times, but if it's on you just watch
it for a little wile. It's one of those films.
Sam one of Sam Pang's top three films nominated. It
really doesn't Cold Stoneheart of Sampagne.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
He wants people to think he's this like tof guy
and he's just a big softy.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
In the green room. Have you been paying attention? He's
a big song so nice and that he absolutely loves
his film. There is one there's one bit that kind
of does like and the here. Grant has even admitted
that it's it's strange. It's when they have the argument.
So they're back and forth. But then she has these
leaked photos that come out, and so she finds some
(20:30):
refuge in the notting Hill apartment with new Grant. Really
nothing really happens to though. We don't really hear anything
more about those leaked photos on the but that's okay.
And then they slip together. They get in the morning,
they're you know, they're in their box shorts and she's
wearing the business shirt, which was very kind of you know,
(20:51):
that was the sexies that got in the nineties.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Very risky business, very risky business.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
There's another film that's were you referencing the film or
just saying risky business?
Speaker 2 (21:01):
No, I was referencing the film.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
I just had Okay, it's like a new game within
this podcast.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
I know the references. I just don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
So they have an argument about because she gets upset
about the fact that, you know, she's been caught. Now
there's by the way, that door must be very sound
proof because there's like there is a throng of media
outside that sure they would have heard something happening outside
the door. But he opens the door. There's media they
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have an argument, and I just want to play this my.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Best friend slip.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
She's slipped downstairs, cracked her back, and she's in a
wheelchair for the rest of her life.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
You know, all I'm asking for is a normal amount
of perspective.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
You're right, of course, you're right. It's just that I've
dealt with this garbage for ten years. You've had it
for ten minutes. Our perspectives are very different.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
Today's newspapers will be lining tomorrow's voice paper.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Bit excuse me, well, you know it's just one day
tomorrow to these papers.
Speaker 7 (22:02):
Will have been You really don't get it.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
This story will be filed every time anyone writes anything
about me.
Speaker 7 (22:12):
They'll dig up these photos. Newspapers last forever. I'll regret
this forever.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Right.
Speaker 8 (22:21):
Right, I will feel the opposite. That's okay by you,
and always be glad that you good to stay.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Okay, There's two things I want to point out. The
first thing is really weak effort on Will's behald not
to allow her to get to the door, like he's
gone out, he's seen the media throng and then kind
of gone and allows her to walk past it like that.
And that's you Granda said, I don't know why the
(22:54):
character would and that's, to be honest, weak direction, like
they needed to come up with a better way for
her to walk out there. Yeah, it's weak. But I
want to point out the really good thing about that scene,
which I love, and I think this is you speak
about how good Julie Roberts is and the depth that
she found in this character when and then Hugran as
well when he says, you know, when she says, oh,
(23:17):
regret it forever. Her reaction as soon as she says it,
and she hasn't been able to stop herself from saying
and she hears it out loud, she hears it come
out of her her mouth is I think one of
the things that gives this film real heart and depth.
And then he's you feel the hurt that he has
is maybe the greatest night of his life where he's
kind of already maybe envisaging and fantasizing about the future
(23:40):
as it's being torn out of him. Yeah, I think
it's beautiful. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
I thought that scene was like particularly good, that whole
argument because I was watching it with these two girls
who I hadn't seen it either, Like both well around
the same age, and they were like, oh, that's a
bit that's a bit mean of herse she acted out
and I was like, no, but it makes sense for
her character, Like you have to think of the history
(24:05):
that she has, and like, I think that's why Julie
Robins so good. You can feel the weight of like
everything this woman has experienced in this one singular moment.
It's just kind of all come to her head in
this one particular moment. It's not necessarily about him. It's
about she's tired of being ogl dat. She's tired of
not having genuine connection. It's just come out in this
like yeah, three lines. Yeah, it's quite incredible.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
And then the conversation about the perspective they have, and
it's it's like they have different perspectives because she has
to live her life differently, yeah, than what he has
to live his life. And yes, you can understand that
news travels fast, that all news moves on quickly, you know,
and there'll be a new news story tomorrow. But we
see it, you know, when when something happens to somebody
(24:49):
it's been on savory. It keeps popping out. You read
you know that online, you read the articles. It's always
there at the end, it's just like, well, it's got
nothing to do with that, but they just keep it
on fine, and they just keep maybe even more so
now than then, to be honest, Yeah, which is incredible.
Did you like One of the things I think Richard
Curtis does really well is inhabit his worlds with friends
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and it's not just about this romance.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Do you want to live in that? Like you want
to be a community being built in there?
Speaker 1 (25:18):
He does it really well for weddings and a funeral
and just as well here. And I mean, and I'll
be honest, I've Richard has been the massive influence on me.
I did a movie I Love You Too, you know,
which you know, has an airport running, you know, like
Chase of the Airport kind of seen at the end
of it, and it's a date and how to stay married.
(25:40):
It was a lot, I think to Richard Curtis. So
I'm unabassed Richard Curtis fans. I think some I think
love actually has not aged particularly particularly particularly well. But
I was very really and I relate that to hear
you say that you think not notting Hill has aged
really well.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Yeah, yeah, I was genuinely surprised by that because I
love I still love love actually.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Yeah, and we did it with Eddie Bannon on the
show and Eddy kind of with the Shreds and I
kind of we had some fun with it, and I'm like,
I agree with almost everything he said, but I'm still
gonna choose to enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I don't want to ruin love actually for anyone, because
there's still so many good things about love. Actually, Emma
Thompson's one of the great performances in any movie I've
seen from it's so heartbreaking with it.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yeah, the shawl, she's wearing the red shawl.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Yeah, vivid, It's it's all there. But I'm not sure
they needed a story about the guy going over to
America and sleeping with three women.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
That was actually my favorite story. I'm actually really connected
with that one.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Well, walk me through it. Walk me through how you connected.
It's actually not your business, but the mates say popular.
And the other thing he does really well is he
finds ways to inject humor into it was so funny.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Yes, I didn't expect to be as funny like the
scene you played at the start of last week's episode
that I remember very vividly today, but it's such a
British humor just that like letting. My favorite kind of
comedy is lines that are given space to breathe. And
I love negative space and comedy and like playing with
just emptiness around a line and what that can do
(27:21):
to elevate it. And to me, it's just full of that.
It's just full of these. They'll say a line and
then they just let the characters sit in it and
be like, oh, well, yes, I suppose that could be right.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
It's so good. And it's interesting that the first time
we have the little I guess that little meet cute
between Julia Roberts and Hugh Grant, there's a disruption in
that with the first one is the Diyla Moran, who
ironically it was in Black Corks at the time, and
(27:54):
it's very funny, you know, and there's an interaction with
the Anna Scott, and then the second time it's with
the He's co worker who's very very funny and the
call from his mum and then the exchange about her
being in Ghosts and you know how it was Patrick
Swayzey to work with and all that. So there are
(28:14):
insting choices to make to have these moments interrupted. But
he's very good at just injecting comedy into when you're
having moments of pathos or drama. I've still finding ways
to get comedy in there, and I it's something that
I've certainly taken in the stuff I've written, and I
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think it comes directly from Richard Curtis, to be absolutely honest.
And I think Reese Farns is so good as a Spike,
but there's there's a whole cast of him that I'm.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
The one that delighted me most was I can't remember
last name, Emma something. She plays Alice and Vicar of Dibley.
But I was like, I'm a massive Vicar of Dibley fan.
I grew up on it and so seeing al I
was like, that's allous, what's she doing in here?
Speaker 1 (29:02):
So she who was she in this? She was the sister,
the sister yes, who sadly is no longer with a
pass away a couple years. Emma Chambers, who played Honey
Yea and originally one of the original scripts drafts, she
was going to play almost a romantic rival with Anna
who was vying for Will's heart, and she was going
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to own a record store across the road from the bookstore,
and Will was going to choose her over Anna, and
then Richard Curtis, I think kind of rightly for this
kind of film to say, you don't want to overlook Anna.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Yeah, you don't need to add competition. No, no women,
No exactly, that's for the Olympics, all right. I don't
want to see it in my movies.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
So made her the sister and she's, yeah, she's as
soon as she walks in on that scene where they're
meeting Anna for the first time, and just like you know,
he's like, holy funk. Whatever she says, yea is she's
immediately immediately funny. Geene McKee plays Bella, who had the
accident a few years ago, and he's married Max Tim mcinerni.
(30:13):
Tim McInerney I knew from Blackadder black auDA goes forth.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Great and that I loved their relationship in that movie.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
That was lovely, wasn't I loved when they went off
to jump in the car.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Yes, that he's I'm not leaving her behind.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I'm not leaving her behind, and it just that was
a really lovely touch.
Speaker 8 (30:30):
Ye.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
So, yeah, that they were. They were great, And of
course mister Downton Abbey, who were Hugh Bonneville was delightful.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Oh my god, yeah, yeah, yeah that was him.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
That was him. Yeah, he's like a big star now obviously.
But the whole cart, all the way, all the way
through it are really are really good. And then when
they have like the moment of yeah, him rejecting, let's
do this in order. Now, okay, let's let's let's have
that famous moment. We'll work through it in order. This
(31:09):
is the famous moment, the line that I'm sure you
all heard from notting Hill when Anna comes in and
after she has you know, surprised him with by having
a boyfriend, alex Alec Bordwin and and then come.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Back and Steven Baldwin's brother.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Hale, and and some time has past. Beautiful by the way,
shot got of an iconic shot of him walking through
notting Hill with the seasons changing.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Yeah, it's not one seasons in one day.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
It's almost like that could describe.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
A city bloody and bloody day in Melbourne, like.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
The seasonal change around at least four times in the day,
perhaps betweenty four hour period. And I so that's an
amazing shot done in four different shots. But it looks
like one shot. It's beautiful. He goes to set. Yeah,
he's given one of those the headphones that listen. Ta
(32:16):
can hear the audio when they's having an off air conversation.
She kind of you know, discards him when asked by
her co star, and he walks off, thinking this relationship
is definitely done. She appears back in the bookstore and
basically hard on sleeve asking him to whether she would
consider taking her back.
Speaker 7 (32:36):
The fame thing isn't really real, you know. Don't forget
I'm also just a girl standing in front of a
boy asking him to love her.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Not only is it a great line, it's so well
the liver it. It's so easy to forget how well
Juliro was delivers that line. And the space the space
said the space, and you really hear because you could
get through that line quicker. Yeah, you know, I'm just
a girl in front of a boy asking you, you know,
love it. There's a version of.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
You read for that.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
I'm sorry I did that. I did it really quick,
even quicker than that.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Really, I'm just love me, Robert de Niro, drive it.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
I won't do an impressions. Yeah, it's the space in
that I think that whole scene goes for nine minutes,
and that involves, you know, the him going to take
the phone call with the mom and the beautiful exchange
with the coworker. It's it's really nice. So that happens,
and he he says, do you mind you know, I'm
(33:50):
just going to say no, you know, and and the
lovely line of I just don't think my inexperienced heart
could take another There are just too many billboards, too
many movies, and that would be true, you know. So
I remember my wife and I had like a little
bit of time apart, like you know, we met together
for a mus or so, and then you know, had
(34:13):
like she did a bit of traveling. But she later
when we got back together, she later would tell me, yeah,
you don't realize how many reminders there are of you
in the public eye. This is like me in two
thousand and two thousand or something to that. But that's
also the friends kind of I think a lot of
it was just friends asking or just radio or whatever.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
You know.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
So imagine that times the most famous person in the
world as opposed the comedian you know, on the on
the outskirts. So yeah, so that happens, and he goes
to the kind of to his friends places, is kind
of restaurant that hasn't really been played much of a
part in the film at this point. I'm not sure why.
I think it's Max is a Max, No, not Max,
(34:56):
the guy who owns a restaurant really hadn't played a part,
and he's just comes to your haunting here. But I
have lovely discussion. And there's a point that one of
the characters makes when he's explaining that he's knocked her back,
that I think is maybe the most beautiful line in
the movie. Let's listen.
Speaker 7 (35:15):
Yeah, good move.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
I mean when all setting down, she's nothing special. I
saw her taking on her trousers down and I definitely
glimpse from silly light down there.
Speaker 7 (35:26):
Good decision.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
All actresses are as mad as snakes.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Turns, what are you? Re never met her? Never want
to brilliant.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Max, Absolutely never trust a vegetarian.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
Great, thanks, brilliant.
Speaker 7 (35:43):
I was called my king? What's that?
Speaker 2 (35:44):
William's just turned down an a sculpt You daft crack? No, no, no, no,
it's actually quite sensible. That painting isn't the original not.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
I think it might appear, but she said she wanted
to go out with you, yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Last night.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
What Well, you know, anyone saying they want they go
out with is pretty great, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
That's Bernie at Bonaville. I think that is one of
the lines of the movie, just that very simple idea
that somebody who says they want to go out with
you is actually such a beautiful thing. I just like,
I remember that that line really getting to me.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Really, that's so funny because I read it as him
just trying to downplay the magnitude of what.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Had happened, right, that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Yeah, this is this is what it's about.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
I'm going to wrap things up because you disagree with
my interpretation of No. Yeah, that's really fascinating because I
I was just think he was because when he says,
I think he's about to say, when he kind of
says the line that she gave, she know he retells it.
She said, I'm just a boy, I'm just a girl
stand in front of a boy, and you could see
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how they all react to it. They all kind of
change her opinion. Yeah, it's like, you know, they all
realize maybe she is lovely and maybe you have made
a mistake. Here and maybe she's genuine. And I've always
seen that as just him kind of almost thinking out loud.
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I feel like in that moment they were all kind
of always they also think about their own experiences and
their own kind of lives and all that, and when
he just says, and his single, so he's just thinking,
it's just kind of it's kind of nice that somebody
actually says, I want to spend time with you. Is
actually like a a really beautiful thing. So at lease, yeah,
(38:01):
maybe well at least you have that.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Yeah, Oh okay, I take it back.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
I've changed my interpretations absolutely.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Art Art is the winner here today. Richard Curtis, if
you're listening, tell us who you know?
Speaker 2 (38:15):
He call him? Yeah yeah, put press the Lala button
on your sound.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Regie McAdams is clogging up the phonalist.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Tell her to go away.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
He's hanging on. She's saying, waited a week to talk
to him. Did you have an idea of how this ended?
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Uh? No, I knew I had an inkling they ended
up together, but I didn't know about the press conference scenes.
So I was actually quite delighted by I thought, I mean, look,
I it would sound like my nightmare, a public display
of affection in my workplace. But she seemed into it,
so good for her into it.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Let's have a listen to the iconic ending of notting Hill.
Speaker 7 (38:53):
Yeah, the last time you were here there was some
fairly graphic photographs taken of you with a youngish guy. So, uh,
what happened? That he was just a friend? We're still friends,
I think right?
Speaker 4 (39:10):
Yes, gentlemen in the pink shirt, Yes, miss Scott, are
there any circumstances in which the two of you.
Speaker 5 (39:28):
Might be more than just good friends?
Speaker 7 (39:32):
I hoped there would be, but no, I'm assured there aren't.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
But what would you say if I'm sorry?
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Just the one question?
Speaker 7 (39:40):
Please?
Speaker 1 (39:42):
You were saying, I was just wondering if.
Speaker 5 (39:48):
It turned out that this persona his names? Thanks? Thanks,
I just wondered whether if mister Thacker realized he'd been
a daft prick and got down on his knees and
begged you to reconsider, whether you would in fact then.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
Reconsider?
Speaker 7 (40:22):
Yes, I believe I would.
Speaker 5 (40:27):
That's very good news. The readers of Horse and Hound
will be absolutely delighted.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
He gets the joke in and the cuts at the
emotion with the last.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
The perfect The perfect cut in also crazy to divulge
the intricacies of your situationship at a press Drouncket. Yeah,
we were more than friends, but I'm not sure about
it now.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
To tell them, I think a lot of you know
Richard Curtis's film, sometimes it's like you think too much.
You need who approach these films with a certain open heartedness. Absolutely,
and you know, and I I really did watch this
film last night and it really did take me back
to watching it and when you're in you know, a
(41:16):
cinema of people in it and they're laughing together, and
that we're getting a big laugh and and like like
we said when Honey came in and said, what are
you like? Oh my fucking girl when she saw Anna Scott, Like,
they're just big laughs, you know. So you know, I
I there are laughs all the way through this. I
think it's Yeah. I do think it's an excellent film
(41:37):
that does hold up really well. We do have some
fun facts.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Trivia from IMDb.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Yeah, basically divulge that as a secret, but something not
all these are on IMDb. I should let you know.
I did some other some other places fate of my
sources on the ground ground Richard Curtis, this is the
(42:09):
park Bench is we love a nassy connection to movies,
and the one we found is that the park bench
is currently in queen's gardens in East Perth. It was
really yes, the bench was brought an auction for some
failed relationship. It kind of went hour after that and
then the it was donated to the City of Perth.
(42:30):
So funnily enough, it is in a queen's gardens, which
I think, is it like a locked off.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
I love the idea that he did that to punish her.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Fine the movie the final cut was three and a
half hours, so ninety minutes was thankfully cut from it.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
You can't be doing that.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
No, no port Tom Sanderson. Maybe it gets away to magnolia,
but I'm not sure if I want three and a
half hours. This is it feels like the perfect length.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Yeah, it didn't feel too two hours.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Julie Us hated the line, and she you know, she
was loath to criticize Richard Curtis's writing because she thinks
he's a genius. But you need to hate the line
about Rita Hayworth. When men go to sleep with Rita Hayworth,
they go to they go to bed with Guilder, which
is most famous character, and they wake up with Rita Hayworth.
(43:19):
She kind of hated that line. She didn't think it
was particularly true. Yeah, but sometimes you just gotta say
the lines, Julia.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
In this industry, you know how it is, Oh Dan
straight door, I do? You're right a lot of yours,
don't you.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
Yeah, Yeah, little ironic kind of mentioned of meat Life's
breaths in this In this movie, you're going to mention
meat Life's breast. He has a lovely pair of breasts. Yes,
because in the same year nineteen ninety nine, great year
for movies, Fight Club comes out, where meat Loaf has
a pair.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
That's right, never heard of the movie fight Club.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
You're not supposed to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
That's why you never heard about it.
Speaker 7 (43:55):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
In the when they were shooting the bump into when
Julie Roberts, Anna Scott and Will thaka here Grant bump
into each other after the which always find these kind
of bumpings can be a bit you know whatever. But
they realized on the first take that orange juice doesn't
actually stay. So it's just like this damp quite wet.
It was wet patch, which is not as cool as
(44:21):
seeing the orange. So I had to get some orange
paint into the orange juice to make it a carp there. Richard,
this is interesting. Richard Curtis often tells the story that
he came up with the idea just one night. I
was in bed, thinking, what would happen if, you know,
(44:45):
a regular person went out with a movie you know,
a movie star, Like if I went to a dinner
party at my friend's house and Madonna was there, Well, yeah,
and we and we kind of there's some chemistry. Could
could that happen?
Speaker 2 (44:57):
Here?
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Grant tells a different story here. Grant he reckons he
Richard Curtis has got on the cans with him a
few times and told him the story about a friend
of his who met a famous woman of the world
in Harold's and they went back to his place and
Shenanigan's ensued on and off again relationship ensued. I believe
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he's an American actress, and he's so fearful of the
name of the people getting out, or particularly the name
of the actress, that he's just kind of he's just
like ignored the fact that this that's how the idea
for the movie actually began, and he's just kind of
came up with this. Oh, I just thought of it.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
So is there any theories on I didn't.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
Track it down. Maybe I should have got on get
on Reddit maybe and check that theory down. But it's
a better it's a better story.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
Then we can check out.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
I just thought about it. I mean, yeah, apparently. And
he's not based on Julie Roberts Grace Caley analogy hepboom
where the inspirations for the characters, but she feels kind
of Julia Roberts to me. But yes, Emma Holland, thank
you so much.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
This podcast comes with a little bit of homework, and
you did it. Okay, you've already done your homework. Thank
You've already done your homework. Wonderful, So thank you so much.
Is there anything you're you're doing at the moment you
would like to get to the world. What do you go?
Speaker 2 (46:30):
I've got a plug. I just released a kid's book,
of course, Welcome Class. Thank you. I I wrote it
specifically because I knew you hadn't I wanted to shove
you out of the industry.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
Oh, you've got a bit of catching up to Galileo.
Book two, The dog Father, comes out in November. Yes,
if you got your movies, there's a little ty in. Yes,
tell us about your book.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
It's called Stories for the Kid next Door. It's short
stories and poems. Kind of absurd if you like Andy
Griffiths Paul Jennings, it's kind of in the same break.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
Paul Jennings is a massive influence on me. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
I think he was for a lot of comics. So good,
so good.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Yeah, so yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
I hope this book is at least some kind of
owe to his influence on me.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
Have you done signing the book signings at schools or
have you no?
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Kind of just starting. I'm doing my first library visit
on Thursday, which is very exciting. It's you.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
You love it so much. It's such a beautiful world
of like they're very honest the kids, yes, which is
kind of great. But there's a complete also lack of cynicism,
you know, like they just they just open hearted and
they're they're excited. They'll be excited for you to be there.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
They love I'm so nervous and no one's going to
show up.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
They will, they will, they will.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
Yeah, I'm sorry. Start I love kids. I love like
working with them and getting to make art for them.
So it's very cool that this all came together.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
Well, I haven't read the book yet, but I've seen
I've seen the artwork and the.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
Yeah, shout out to Chris Kennet, the illustrator, for doing that.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
It looks amazing.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
Yeah, it's incredible.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
How good is it? I've been with any joiner on Galileo,
and when you get the pictures the illustrations back, it's
an exciting day. You can think, oh, this has got better.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
I specifically wanted him as well. Like his style. I
felt really much the energy of what I was writing,
and I was so nervous about them asking him because
I was like, oh, what if he says no? And
then he did and I was so happy. But yeah,
it's just like it's exactly what I pictured for the
book was just the amount of I always just describe
it as the energy he brings to it, like the
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stories come alive with his illustrations. It's incredible.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
No, it's one of the really happy days of my
life when I'm writing something and the illustrations coming from
talented illustrators, well fantastic. Get that it's in all good bookstores,
every single one of them. If you look out for
book signings and opportunities to meet Emma.
Speaker 2 (48:57):
Yeah, please come just for my sake.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
You heard her on look you fe a little bit
sorry for her, a bit nervous about people rocking up
and no and any travel bookstores appearances coming up.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
None currently, but it will be in the future, so
keep an eye out.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
Thank you so much, Thank you. How great is Emma Holland?
That was a fun couple of episodes, both her three
favorite films in Finding the Email, About Time and Boiling Point.
I have to get onto that and to chat about
notting Hill. I was very relieved that she enjoyed it.
The onus is not on our guest to have to
enjoy the film they just watched, but it Yeah, I'm
(49:36):
just glad she did. When she mentioned it About Time
was one of her favorite films, I had a feeling
at an inkling that notting Hill might be thereabouts. Thanks
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Speaker 4 (50:49):
Leave old Pete save man soul and to our friends
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Thank you day, Peter, Hell are you here? Welcome to
(00:02):
you ain't seen nothing yet. The Movie Podcast where our
chat to a movie lover about a classic or beloved
movie they haven't quite got around to watching until now.
Today's guest comedian Emma Holland.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
All below.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I want to stay you with you.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
The job waits, snake sucked, hid me, haven't a right
(00:53):
Emma Holland, She's more than a comedian. She's now a
Bone of Fidy children's author. A new book, Her debut book,
Stories for the Kid next Door, is going gangbusters. It
looks fantastic, illustrated by the extremely talented Chris Cannett. As
soon as I saw that Emma was releasing a kid's book,
(01:15):
I thought, yep, this makes absolute sense. Emma is a
comedian who has been making massive waves in the Australian
and international comedy scene over the last few years through
stand up shows the Melbourne International Comedy Festival and all
around Australia in fact, and also the Edinburgh Fringe Festival,
where she's playing to sell out crowds. She's absolutely killing it.
(01:37):
If you get your comedy via the TV, you would
have seen Emma killing it on the cheap seats. I
thank god you're here and have you been Paying Attention?
I've had the pleasure of doing a number of episodes
of Have You Been Paying Attention with Emma, and she's
an absolute joy to play with on that show. She's
actually just a really fun, lovely, funny person to hang
(02:02):
around with. She also I just shouldn't bury the lead
because the winner of I think of season four of
Taskmaster Australia. She was hilarious on that season and a
well deserved winner. You can catch and she's working on
a brand new show which will hit the festival circuit
(02:22):
in Australia and I'm sure Edinburgh next year. She does
have a title for us, she told me off air,
but she's not ready to announce it yet. It is
the title alone is worth the price of the ticket.
So go check Emma Holland both live. Get her new book,
Story for the Kid next Door, and you can listen
to it right here, because I'm bloody stoked to be
(02:44):
hanging with Emma Holland today. Yes, we are back with
Emma Holland today, Notting hill Ise. We're talking about Welcome back, Emma,
thanks coming back, Thank you for having me before we
get into Notting Hill. I can't wait to I'm almost
a little bit nervous about whether you like this film
or not. But we encourage all our listeners to get
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a message about maybe I guess you want to hear
a movie, something you've heard, something you would like to hear,
and Luke has done exactly that. Let's have listened to Look.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
At the time I believe you had twenty twenty three
said you hadn't seen the banshes of being a sharer
in terms of your best movies of that year. Have
you seen it since? I don't believe you've spoken about it.
I could be wrong. I may have missed a podcast,
(03:38):
but I would love to know your thoughts on it.
I think it's one of the best movies I've seen
in decades. I'd love to know your thoughts on why.
If you do like it, you maybe you didn't, and
if you didn't, fuck you, but if you didn't, why
They didn't actually win many, many, many awards in terms
(04:01):
of Colin Farrell and Brendan Gleeson and Let It Go,
You know, Karen Condon and Barry Carigan. She is my
love the show.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Thank yous have quite a violent energy. A couple of weeks,
I don't respect you at all.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
On a couple of weeks ago, was was very he
was very, very loved the show. But there was an
episode of Fight Club with Kate lane Brook and he
did not appreciate Kate's viewing or Brad Pitt.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Really that's interesting. I wouldn't I want to have picked
that from a film, bro.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
So, I yes, I did see the bench ad Insurance
not long after probably I recorded that episode, and yeah,
I loved it. Have you seen the Banches of Insurance? Yeah?
I had to. I see it. I saw it twice.
Like the Paul Thomas Anderson factor, I have massive expectations
when I go to watch a Martin McDonough film. So
(04:57):
we're doing it in Bruges and three billboards OUTSI Devan Missouri.
He's also his brother. He made that Cavalry, which is
an awesome film as well. But then Bruce, He's one
of my favorite films of all the time. And I
watched it with my son, I think during lockdown and
he's he's going to Europe and he wants to go
to the BRUEs for that but yeah, I I did
(05:21):
have to watch it the second time because the first
time I watched Banshees, I did have a feeling of like,
I wouldn't mind a little bit more pace in this film.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I thought you said couldn't understand a word that I
had to watch it twice with some title that was
that as well.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
But I love I love the setting of it, and
he just kind of once Brendan Gleason's character told Colin
Farrell that, you know, he doesn't want to be friends anymore. Yeah,
I was kind of expecting maybe it's a little bit
more escalation. I mean, I know there was the cutting
off of fingers, which you could count as escalation, But
then the city I went and sort of a second
(05:57):
time and didn't bother me. I just kind of like
I sunk into it a little wash over me a
bit more. And I've loved it now. I've he seen
it four or five times.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I think Barry Kerrigan's performances that is amazing.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
He's incredible.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
He's just he's a freak. He's so good.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah. This is young people you see who just I
feel like they're old soul.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Young Irish folk. Yeah, something in them at the moment.
I don't know what's going on up there, but.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
There is something going on because I remember seeing him.
I think killing him a sacred year. I think it's
the first saw Great film. Yeah, that was, and then
it was The American Animals, the art heist film. He
was great in that, and he's just been constantly great. Yeah,
salt Burn obviously more recently he's great. But Brennan Gleeson's
(06:42):
is so watchable. Colin Farrell. I love Colin Farrell's career,
but you know how he kind of went through that.
I do remember Chris Rock making fun of him at
the Oscars, kind of something that you know, if you can't,
if you can't, you know, Afford Russell Crowe, you get,
you know, Colin Farrell almost calling him the team kind
of Colin Ferrell. And I just that he's kind of
he's found his way and he's just, you know, a
(07:03):
bit like Hugh Grant, who we'll chat about today. Like
he Grant. I love how he owns his career now
and he's doing different things and he's got got a
good sense of humor about the things in his past.
And yeah, good on him, but good on it.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Someone's got to say, have you.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Seen the Three Billboards outside Having Missouri? Yes, that is
an amazing film. That is as well, it was a
long time ago.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
I actually don't remember much about it.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
So Frandz mcdonmant wins the oscar. I got it. I
get it.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Confused with nomad Land a lot, even though they are very.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Different, very different, very different. Yes, that's yeah. Her daughter
is quite a dark you know, obviously Mark McDonald writes
pretty darkly. But yeah, her daughter was raped and killed
and the police aren't doing anything about it enough, so
she puts the three billboards outside of the town asking
why they haven't done things, and it causes a racus
in town and an amazing cast of Sam Rockwell, Peter
(07:57):
Dinklage and yeah friend dormant Peter.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Sam. I forgot Peter Dnklish, wasn't it. Yes, Yeah, he's
my bro close personal front.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeah. I never forget taking Peter Dinklish to the comics lounge.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Still wait, did you?
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Yeah, because the peel things in my movie that mate,
So yeah, I'm.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Sorry, I was making fun. I was like, I thought
you were just saying a celebrity and being like, yeah,
we know each other.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
But oh, no, you actually do know you have done
that about forty times during this podcast, already pretending that
Regie mcgannon's is trying to phone into the podcast.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
No.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Yes, Peter thinklidh in. I love you too. So that
was just before you did Game of Thrones. So yeah,
and I into the Comics lounge one night and it
was it was just so surreal they have him there, yeah,
hanging and he was, yeah, he loved it, had a
great night. Did he get up? He didn't get up.
I think kind of query whether he was interested at all,
and he was like, no, it's want of yeah, because
he surprised me. You tooked me out for dinner with
(08:50):
all the Fox with the X Men people, with Hugh
Jackman there, and he and I said I need to
go to this gig at some point and then I
said okay, I should go and he goes, oh, we're
coming with you me and some of the Fox publicism
that of car already and it's great life.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
This is pre g O T.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
So that we got. The next thing he did was
g O T. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Wow. Do you talk to him still, yes, but he's
like he's.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Very like email and he's he's very he does a
thing where you email him and you'll get back to you,
and then you'll email again. He'll get back one more time,
and then if you email a third time, he's like, no,
I'm moving on now, But not in a not in
a not in a weird way. It's just like enough
because he does get back quickly to you, but he yes.
(09:42):
And whenever Angela Bishop goes over to do the Emmys
and he wins something and he's in the press conference,
you'll always ask about me to him, and he said
lovely He said lovely things, which is like.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
A really nice guy. He's got to stop emailing me.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yeah, I can't come on to think. I think the
coolest guy I've ever met, though, could easily could easily
be astound a comedian, Like when you said, did you
get up? Like I kind of forgot that you have
a minimum, so like, he could easily be comedian. He's
got that sensibility. As soon as he arrived on set,
we were just like, yeah, yeah, so annoying.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
When you meet people like that, you're like, oh, you
wouldn't have to try, Yeah, it would enough to work, Like.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Us, I know, why can't this be the talented active one.
You know, that's not the comedians. This did their thing,
but he could easily, you know, be coming. Anyway, Let's
get on to talk about the movie we are here
to talk about from nineteen ninety nine and Nodding Hill,
directed by Roger Mitchell, written by Richard Curtis Hugh Grant.
Julia Roberts said Julia Morris.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I was going to say, Julia's a mirror.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Both would have been excellent.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Oh god, yeah, would have been amazing, and it was maybe.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
They would have absolutely smashed electric, absolutely smashed it, but
it wasn't to be. Julia Roberts got the role Emma Holm.
Did you enjoy Notting Hill?
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yeah? I loved it, Obviously I loved it. My favorite
movie is About Time, Yes, of course I loved it.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
When you said about Time last week, I was like, Okay,
this is a little hints boating well that you might
enjoy notting Hill, because I think you because your three
favorite films last week we're Finding Nemo, about Time, and
Boiling Point. Particularly about Time and Finding Nemo. It says
to me that you approach films with the open heartedness,
lack of cynicism.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I do, but you know what my favorite genre is horror.
I think of balance. I think I have my you know,
I know where to put my energy. I think that's
what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
So, you didn't have a horror film in your top
three last week? What would be your favorite horror film?
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Either It Follows or Barbarian which was both very pretty
recent films. It's incredible.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Yeah, okay, I want to get too sidetracked on Barbarians
or It Follows. So you said last week you knew
couple of things about but not too many things about
Noting Hill. You knew that the line I'm just a girl.
You know, you knew there was a movie star.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
It was iconic. It was Richard Curtis.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yes, did anything What surprised you? What did you like
about it?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
The big thing that surprised me was his approach to
women in the film, Especially for something that came out
in the nineties, it seemed I couldn't believe the amount
of depth Julia Roberts's character had, and like every single
decision she made. I mean, I think it's also a
test to her as an actor. But every single decision
(12:35):
she made and every like negative aspect of her personality
came from a deeper truth. It wasn't just like she
was being based on the stereotype of what he thought,
you know, a woman was. So I think I was
just genuinely surprised at how well she was depicted and
how the aspect of her being a woman in media
(12:57):
was yeah depicted as well.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Yeah, because she does drive the film as much as
she's the one often is the cause of the relationship
falling apart, but she's the one making the choice is
good and bad. When Hugh Grant so recently said that
whenever he comes across his film on TV, he's flicking around,
the first thing he thinks of is why doesn't my
character have any balls? And is a bit is a
(13:23):
bit soft?
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I really like what I just thought he was quite British.
That was my read, and that was like, you know, so.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
This comes five years after Four Weddings and a Funeral,
which is have you seen Four Weddings? No, it's.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Famously i'ven't ever seen a film before two thousand and five.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
I had a feeling you mentioned that, so I just
thought i'd ask anyway, Four Weddings is a great film.
In fact, the director of that, Mark Null, was asked
to direct notting Hill. He said, no, I've already made
that film, you know. And and when Richard Curtis actually
saw the first cut of Notting Hill, he was a
bit disappointed because he thought, I think I've made Four
Weddings again, because it's it's again. It's it's it's Hugh
(13:59):
Grant falling in love with an American woman and all
this friends around them, and it's certainly got a similar vibe.
I would say that they are different, different enough, but yes,
he Grant. This was a Richard Curtis came up with
his own little industry here and him and Hugh Grant.
This seemed to work. He could write really well for
(14:20):
Hugh Grant. I think Hugh Grant could deliver Richard Curtis
lines really well.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
It was also the first time I've kind of gotten
Hugh Grant. I mean, I saw him in Bridget Jones
as a kid, and I like, but I saw him
as like someone my mom was into, Like my mom
had a crush on him. And then I think, just
because of you know, the age he has been while
I've been growing up with films, he's always just seemed
like an older figure in movies and people talk about
(14:43):
him like he's this like absolute dream broke, Like they
talking about him like his Harry styles or something, and
I was like, kind of, I guess, so, I guess
he's like beautiful. But then I saw him in this
movie and I was like, oh, I get it. And
it wasn't just like about appearance. It was just about
like the the riz I suppose.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah. Well, the the Bridget Jones character that he plays
always felt to me like there's a bit of a
wink to the audience who already knew who Grant from
for weddings and notting Hill is kind of go oh,
the guy that you loved so much, who was like
the good guy, now he's playing yeah, the bastard.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Yeah see, I've only known him from yeah bustard onwards.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
That's that's so fascinating because he really was like he
was the biggest you know, you know actor in his
genre around this time. And he's also what's interesting about
the casting is Julia Roberts also had some like weird
kind of media kind of intrusion and became fighter for
the perhaps and I think it was going through some
(15:43):
relationship issues. I think there might have been a family
breakdown and then she anyway without reliving at all. It's
just too painful for me because I was the man
in the middle of that break.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I didn't want to bring it up, but I knew.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
I did know. And then of course Hugh Granted around
about ninety five ninety six, you know, he's found with
Divine Brown. This this prostitute or sex worker on the
Sunset Strip, like you know, having a performing a sex actress.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Grant this is the most like I think I knew
about all this, but this is such like yeah, nineties
paparazzi gossip. It's like vintage was a nostalgia to it.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
But what's amazing is when Hugh Grant got busted, you know,
the munk shop went around, and then he appeared on
Jay Leno like the next night, and like this kind
of took responsibility and kind of and I was like, Wow,
that wouldn't happen now you you would? You would? You
would you know, get get somebody to up something on
your Instagram, you put out a tile and you just
(16:48):
so they know you're serious exactly, so you wouldn't necessarily
go on a talk show which is comedic in front
of an audience like Yep, that was that was wasn't
it got a yeah blah blah blah blah. Yeah, so
it's yeah. I really kind of in a way admired
you Grant for that. Like there were times when people
(17:09):
just make these these mistakes go on and on and
on because they don't you know, I'm not sure how
many people would have done.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
What he did, but what about the guts?
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Yeah, if you did a crime, you did a time
on Jay Leno. But yeah, so they the casting was
kind of they were both going through They weren't necessarily
cold as actors, but they were weren't as hot as
they had been so and they had both had this
kind of weird relationship with fame and media. So they
put them both in the same film.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
And then like explore those topics, explose topics.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
I think is really amazing. Have you been the notting
Hill at all?
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Of you? Like?
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (17:51):
And I saw Kenneth Brenner walking down the street and
I was like, this is living. I've made it. I'm
in notting Hill and that's Kenneth Brenner. He was wearing
yellow tinted sunglasses and I thought, that's yeah, that checks out.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
The blue door still there.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
I actually don't know because I hadn't seen the film
when I when I went, so I don't think I
understood the way. I just I was meeting a friend
to we went and got Caribbean food.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
The blue door is obviously became a little bit iconic,
and people that was actually the house that belonged to
Richard Curtis, really yes, and then he since moved out,
and then people would go and have photos of the
blue door. People who live in there got cigarette they
painted it black, and then they I think they sold.
And then I think they think the door is somewhere
else now but it's a different door, or it's been
(18:38):
it's been painted back the blue. But yeah, and so
and what did you what did you know of Julia
Roberts then, because she hasn't done as much stuff like
because she again was you know, we still Magnolia's and
pretty woman. Particularly she was the most famous person in
the world for a lot.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
I knew she had that Mona Lisa smilely smile not
about her well, I knew she was like a like
the iconic actress of the of the nineties and everything
I've seen her and I think she's like Aeron Brockovich amazing.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
It was a year after this and she wins the
Oscar for that.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Yeah, oh that was sorry, that was pretty two thousand
and four and we go one. But yeah, I always
thought she was quite brilliant and then yeah, I just
was electrified by her. Yeah, just like, yeah, incredible.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
And obviously there's a there's the moment of actually we'll
say it till late. I want to jump too far,
too far ahead. There is a moment I want to
talk about, which which is because I really, I really
like this film. It's very watchable. It's I would have
(19:47):
seen it many many times, not ness the whole thing
as many times, but if it's on you just watch
it for a little wile. It's one of those films.
Sam one of Sam Pang's top three films nominated. It
really doesn't Cold Stoneheart of Sampagne.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
He wants people to think he's this like tof guy
and he's just a big softy.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
In the green room. Have you been paying attention? He's
a big song so nice and that he absolutely loves
his film. There is one there's one bit that kind
of does like and the here. Grant has even admitted
that it's it's strange. It's when they have the argument.
So they're back and forth. But then she has these
leaked photos that come out, and so she finds some
(20:30):
refuge in the notting Hill apartment with new Grant. Really
nothing really happens to though. We don't really hear anything
more about those leaked photos on the but that's okay.
And then they slip together. They get in the morning,
they're you know, they're in their box shorts and she's
wearing the business shirt, which was very kind of you know,
(20:51):
that was the sexies that got in the nineties.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Very risky business, very risky business.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
There's another film that's were you referencing the film or
just saying risky business?
Speaker 2 (21:01):
No, I was referencing the film.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
I just had Okay, it's like a new game within
this podcast.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
I know the references. I just don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
So they have an argument about because she gets upset
about the fact that, you know, she's been caught. Now
there's by the way, that door must be very sound
proof because there's like there is a throng of media
outside that sure they would have heard something happening outside
the door. But he opens the door. There's media they
(21:31):
have an argument, and I just want to play this my.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Best friend slip.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
She's slipped downstairs, cracked her back, and she's in a
wheelchair for the rest of her life.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
You know, all I'm asking for is a normal amount
of perspective.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
You're right, of course, you're right. It's just that I've
dealt with this garbage for ten years. You've had it
for ten minutes. Our perspectives are very different.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
Today's newspapers will be lining tomorrow's voice paper.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Bit excuse me, well, you know it's just one day
tomorrow to these papers.
Speaker 7 (22:02):
Will have been You really don't get it.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
This story will be filed every time anyone writes anything
about me.
Speaker 7 (22:12):
They'll dig up these photos. Newspapers last forever. I'll regret
this forever.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Right.
Speaker 8 (22:21):
Right, I will feel the opposite. That's okay by you,
and always be glad that you good to stay.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Okay, There's two things I want to point out. The
first thing is really weak effort on Will's behald not
to allow her to get to the door, like he's
gone out, he's seen the media throng and then kind
of gone and allows her to walk past it like that.
And that's you Granda said, I don't know why the
(22:54):
character would and that's, to be honest, weak direction, like
they needed to come up with a better way for
her to walk out there. Yeah, it's weak. But I
want to point out the really good thing about that scene,
which I love, and I think this is you speak
about how good Julie Roberts is and the depth that
she found in this character when and then Hugran as
well when he says, you know, when she says, oh,
(23:17):
regret it forever. Her reaction as soon as she says it,
and she hasn't been able to stop herself from saying
and she hears it out loud, she hears it come
out of her her mouth is I think one of
the things that gives this film real heart and depth.
And then he's you feel the hurt that he has
is maybe the greatest night of his life where he's
kind of already maybe envisaging and fantasizing about the future
(23:40):
as it's being torn out of him. Yeah, I think
it's beautiful. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
I thought that scene was like particularly good, that whole
argument because I was watching it with these two girls
who I hadn't seen it either, Like both well around
the same age, and they were like, oh, that's a
bit that's a bit mean of herse she acted out
and I was like, no, but it makes sense for
her character, Like you have to think of the history
(24:05):
that she has, and like, I think that's why Julie
Robins so good. You can feel the weight of like
everything this woman has experienced in this one singular moment.
It's just kind of all come to her head in
this one particular moment. It's not necessarily about him. It's
about she's tired of being ogl dat. She's tired of
not having genuine connection. It's just come out in this
like yeah, three lines. Yeah, it's quite incredible.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
And then the conversation about the perspective they have, and
it's it's like they have different perspectives because she has
to live her life differently, yeah, than what he has
to live his life. And yes, you can understand that
news travels fast, that all news moves on quickly, you know,
and there'll be a new news story tomorrow. But we
see it, you know, when when something happens to somebody
(24:49):
it's been on savory. It keeps popping out. You read
you know that online, you read the articles. It's always
there at the end, it's just like, well, it's got
nothing to do with that, but they just keep it
on fine, and they just keep maybe even more so
now than then, to be honest, Yeah, which is incredible.
Did you like One of the things I think Richard
Curtis does really well is inhabit his worlds with friends
(25:13):
and it's not just about this romance.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Do you want to live in that? Like you want
to be a community being built in there?
Speaker 1 (25:18):
He does it really well for weddings and a funeral
and just as well here. And I mean, and I'll
be honest, I've Richard has been the massive influence on me.
I did a movie I Love You Too, you know,
which you know, has an airport running, you know, like
Chase of the Airport kind of seen at the end
of it, and it's a date and how to stay married.
(25:40):
It was a lot, I think to Richard Curtis. So
I'm unabassed Richard Curtis fans. I think some I think
love actually has not aged particularly particularly particularly well. But
I was very really and I relate that to hear
you say that you think not notting Hill has aged
really well.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Yeah, yeah, I was genuinely surprised by that because I
love I still love love actually.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Yeah, and we did it with Eddie Bannon on the
show and Eddy kind of with the Shreds and I
kind of we had some fun with it, and I'm like,
I agree with almost everything he said, but I'm still
gonna choose to enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I don't want to ruin love actually for anyone, because
there's still so many good things about love. Actually, Emma
Thompson's one of the great performances in any movie I've
seen from it's so heartbreaking with it.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yeah, the shawl, she's wearing the red shawl.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Yeah, vivid, It's it's all there. But I'm not sure
they needed a story about the guy going over to
America and sleeping with three women.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
That was actually my favorite story. I'm actually really connected
with that one.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Well, walk me through it. Walk me through how you connected.
It's actually not your business, but the mates say popular.
And the other thing he does really well is he
finds ways to inject humor into it was so funny.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Yes, I didn't expect to be as funny like the
scene you played at the start of last week's episode
that I remember very vividly today, but it's such a
British humor just that like letting. My favorite kind of
comedy is lines that are given space to breathe. And
I love negative space and comedy and like playing with
just emptiness around a line and what that can do
(27:21):
to elevate it. And to me, it's just full of that.
It's just full of these. They'll say a line and
then they just let the characters sit in it and
be like, oh, well, yes, I suppose that could be right.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
It's so good. And it's interesting that the first time
we have the little I guess that little meet cute
between Julia Roberts and Hugh Grant, there's a disruption in
that with the first one is the Diyla Moran, who
ironically it was in Black Corks at the time, and
(27:54):
it's very funny, you know, and there's an interaction with
the Anna Scott, and then the second time it's with
the He's co worker who's very very funny and the
call from his mum and then the exchange about her
being in Ghosts and you know how it was Patrick
Swayzey to work with and all that. So there are
(28:14):
insting choices to make to have these moments interrupted. But
he's very good at just injecting comedy into when you're
having moments of pathos or drama. I've still finding ways
to get comedy in there, and I it's something that
I've certainly taken in the stuff I've written, and I
(28:37):
think it comes directly from Richard Curtis, to be absolutely honest.
And I think Reese Farns is so good as a Spike,
but there's there's a whole cast of him that I'm.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
The one that delighted me most was I can't remember
last name, Emma something. She plays Alice and Vicar of Dibley.
But I was like, I'm a massive Vicar of Dibley fan.
I grew up on it and so seeing al I
was like, that's allous, what's she doing in here?
Speaker 1 (29:02):
So she who was she in this? She was the sister,
the sister yes, who sadly is no longer with a
pass away a couple years. Emma Chambers, who played Honey
Yea and originally one of the original scripts drafts, she
was going to play almost a romantic rival with Anna
who was vying for Will's heart, and she was going
(29:26):
to own a record store across the road from the bookstore,
and Will was going to choose her over Anna, and
then Richard Curtis, I think kind of rightly for this
kind of film to say, you don't want to overlook Anna.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Yeah, you don't need to add competition. No, no women,
No exactly, that's for the Olympics, all right. I don't
want to see it in my movies.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
So made her the sister and she's, yeah, she's as
soon as she walks in on that scene where they're
meeting Anna for the first time, and just like you know,
he's like, holy funk. Whatever she says, yea is she's
immediately immediately funny. Geene McKee plays Bella, who had the
accident a few years ago, and he's married Max Tim mcinerni.
(30:13):
Tim McInerney I knew from Blackadder black auDA goes forth.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Great and that I loved their relationship in that movie.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
That was lovely, wasn't I loved when they went off
to jump in the car.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Yes, that he's I'm not leaving her behind.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I'm not leaving her behind, and it just that was
a really lovely touch.
Speaker 8 (30:30):
Ye.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
So, yeah, that they were. They were great, And of
course mister Downton Abbey, who were Hugh Bonneville was delightful.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Oh my god, yeah, yeah, yeah that was him.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
That was him. Yeah, he's like a big star now obviously.
But the whole cart, all the way, all the way
through it are really are really good. And then when
they have like the moment of yeah, him rejecting, let's
do this in order. Now, okay, let's let's let's have
that famous moment. We'll work through it in order. This
(31:09):
is the famous moment, the line that I'm sure you
all heard from notting Hill when Anna comes in and
after she has you know, surprised him with by having
a boyfriend, alex Alec Bordwin and and then come.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Back and Steven Baldwin's brother.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Hale, and and some time has past. Beautiful by the way,
shot got of an iconic shot of him walking through
notting Hill with the seasons changing.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Yeah, it's not one seasons in one day.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
It's almost like that could describe.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
A city bloody and bloody day in Melbourne, like.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
The seasonal change around at least four times in the day,
perhaps betweenty four hour period. And I so that's an
amazing shot done in four different shots. But it looks
like one shot. It's beautiful. He goes to set. Yeah,
he's given one of those the headphones that listen. Ta
(32:16):
can hear the audio when they's having an off air conversation.
She kind of you know, discards him when asked by
her co star, and he walks off, thinking this relationship
is definitely done. She appears back in the bookstore and
basically hard on sleeve asking him to whether she would
consider taking her back.
Speaker 7 (32:36):
The fame thing isn't really real, you know. Don't forget
I'm also just a girl standing in front of a
boy asking him to love her.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Not only is it a great line, it's so well
the liver it. It's so easy to forget how well
Juliro was delivers that line. And the space the space
said the space, and you really hear because you could
get through that line quicker. Yeah, you know, I'm just
a girl in front of a boy asking you, you know,
love it. There's a version of.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
You read for that.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
I'm sorry I did that. I did it really quick,
even quicker than that.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Really, I'm just love me, Robert de Niro, drive it.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
I won't do an impressions. Yeah, it's the space in
that I think that whole scene goes for nine minutes,
and that involves, you know, the him going to take
the phone call with the mom and the beautiful exchange
with the coworker. It's it's really nice. So that happens,
and he he says, do you mind you know, I'm
(33:50):
just going to say no, you know, and and the
lovely line of I just don't think my inexperienced heart
could take another There are just too many billboards, too
many movies, and that would be true, you know. So
I remember my wife and I had like a little
bit of time apart, like you know, we met together
for a mus or so, and then you know, had
(34:13):
like she did a bit of traveling. But she later
when we got back together, she later would tell me, yeah,
you don't realize how many reminders there are of you
in the public eye. This is like me in two
thousand and two thousand or something to that. But that's
also the friends kind of I think a lot of
it was just friends asking or just radio or whatever.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
You know.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
So imagine that times the most famous person in the
world as opposed the comedian you know, on the on
the outskirts. So yeah, so that happens, and he goes
to the kind of to his friends places, is kind
of restaurant that hasn't really been played much of a
part in the film at this point. I'm not sure why.
I think it's Max is a Max, No, not Max,
(34:56):
the guy who owns a restaurant really hadn't played a part,
and he's just comes to your haunting here. But I
have lovely discussion. And there's a point that one of
the characters makes when he's explaining that he's knocked her back,
that I think is maybe the most beautiful line in
the movie. Let's listen.
Speaker 7 (35:15):
Yeah, good move.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
I mean when all setting down, she's nothing special. I
saw her taking on her trousers down and I definitely
glimpse from silly light down there.
Speaker 7 (35:26):
Good decision.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
All actresses are as mad as snakes.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Turns, what are you? Re never met her? Never want
to brilliant.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Max, Absolutely never trust a vegetarian.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
Great, thanks, brilliant.
Speaker 7 (35:43):
I was called my king? What's that?
Speaker 2 (35:44):
William's just turned down an a sculpt You daft crack? No, no, no, no,
it's actually quite sensible. That painting isn't the original not.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
I think it might appear, but she said she wanted
to go out with you, yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Last night.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
What Well, you know, anyone saying they want they go
out with is pretty great, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
That's Bernie at Bonaville. I think that is one of
the lines of the movie, just that very simple idea
that somebody who says they want to go out with
you is actually such a beautiful thing. I just like,
I remember that that line really getting to me.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Really, that's so funny because I read it as him
just trying to downplay the magnitude of what.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Had happened, right, that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Yeah, this is this is what it's about.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
I'm going to wrap things up because you disagree with
my interpretation of No. Yeah, that's really fascinating because I
I was just think he was because when he says,
I think he's about to say, when he kind of
says the line that she gave, she know he retells it.
She said, I'm just a boy, I'm just a girl
stand in front of a boy, and you could see
(37:18):
how they all react to it. They all kind of
change her opinion. Yeah, it's like, you know, they all
realize maybe she is lovely and maybe you have made
a mistake. Here and maybe she's genuine. And I've always
seen that as just him kind of almost thinking out loud.
(37:39):
I feel like in that moment they were all kind
of always they also think about their own experiences and
their own kind of lives and all that, and when
he just says, and his single, so he's just thinking,
it's just kind of it's kind of nice that somebody
actually says, I want to spend time with you. Is
actually like a a really beautiful thing. So at lease, yeah,
(38:01):
maybe well at least you have that.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Yeah, Oh okay, I take it back.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
I've changed my interpretations absolutely.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Art Art is the winner here today. Richard Curtis, if
you're listening, tell us who you know?
Speaker 2 (38:15):
He call him? Yeah yeah, put press the Lala button
on your sound.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Regie McAdams is clogging up the phonalist.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Tell her to go away.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
He's hanging on. She's saying, waited a week to talk
to him. Did you have an idea of how this ended?
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Uh? No, I knew I had an inkling they ended
up together, but I didn't know about the press conference scenes.
So I was actually quite delighted by I thought, I mean, look,
I it would sound like my nightmare, a public display
of affection in my workplace. But she seemed into it,
so good for her into it.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Let's have a listen to the iconic ending of notting Hill.
Speaker 7 (38:53):
Yeah, the last time you were here there was some
fairly graphic photographs taken of you with a youngish guy. So, uh,
what happened? That he was just a friend? We're still friends,
I think right?
Speaker 4 (39:10):
Yes, gentlemen in the pink shirt, Yes, miss Scott, are
there any circumstances in which the two of you.
Speaker 5 (39:28):
Might be more than just good friends?
Speaker 7 (39:32):
I hoped there would be, but no, I'm assured there aren't.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
But what would you say if I'm sorry?
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Just the one question?
Speaker 7 (39:40):
Please?
Speaker 1 (39:42):
You were saying, I was just wondering if.
Speaker 5 (39:48):
It turned out that this persona his names? Thanks? Thanks,
I just wondered whether if mister Thacker realized he'd been
a daft prick and got down on his knees and
begged you to reconsider, whether you would in fact then.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
Reconsider?
Speaker 7 (40:22):
Yes, I believe I would.
Speaker 5 (40:27):
That's very good news. The readers of Horse and Hound
will be absolutely delighted.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
He gets the joke in and the cuts at the
emotion with the last.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
The perfect The perfect cut in also crazy to divulge
the intricacies of your situationship at a press Drouncket. Yeah,
we were more than friends, but I'm not sure about
it now.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
To tell them, I think a lot of you know
Richard Curtis's film, sometimes it's like you think too much.
You need who approach these films with a certain open heartedness. Absolutely,
and you know, and I I really did watch this
film last night and it really did take me back
to watching it and when you're in you know, a
(41:16):
cinema of people in it and they're laughing together, and
that we're getting a big laugh and and like like
we said when Honey came in and said, what are
you like? Oh my fucking girl when she saw Anna Scott, Like,
they're just big laughs, you know. So you know, I
I there are laughs all the way through this. I
think it's Yeah. I do think it's an excellent film
(41:37):
that does hold up really well. We do have some
fun facts.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Trivia from IMDb.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Yeah, basically divulge that as a secret, but something not
all these are on IMDb. I should let you know.
I did some other some other places fate of my
sources on the ground ground Richard Curtis, this is the
(42:09):
park Bench is we love a nassy connection to movies,
and the one we found is that the park bench
is currently in queen's gardens in East Perth. It was
really yes, the bench was brought an auction for some
failed relationship. It kind of went hour after that and
then the it was donated to the City of Perth.
(42:30):
So funnily enough, it is in a queen's gardens, which
I think, is it like a locked off.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
I love the idea that he did that to punish her.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Fine the movie the final cut was three and a
half hours, so ninety minutes was thankfully cut from it.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
You can't be doing that.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
No, no port Tom Sanderson. Maybe it gets away to magnolia,
but I'm not sure if I want three and a
half hours. This is it feels like the perfect length.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Yeah, it didn't feel too two hours.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Julie Us hated the line, and she you know, she
was loath to criticize Richard Curtis's writing because she thinks
he's a genius. But you need to hate the line
about Rita Hayworth. When men go to sleep with Rita Hayworth,
they go to they go to bed with Guilder, which
is most famous character, and they wake up with Rita Hayworth.
(43:19):
She kind of hated that line. She didn't think it
was particularly true. Yeah, but sometimes you just gotta say
the lines, Julia.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
In this industry, you know how it is, Oh Dan
straight door, I do? You're right a lot of yours,
don't you.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
Yeah, Yeah, little ironic kind of mentioned of meat Life's
breaths in this In this movie, you're going to mention
meat Life's breast. He has a lovely pair of breasts. Yes,
because in the same year nineteen ninety nine, great year
for movies, Fight Club comes out, where meat Loaf has
a pair.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
That's right, never heard of the movie fight Club.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
You're not supposed to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
That's why you never heard about it.
Speaker 7 (43:55):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
In the when they were shooting the bump into when
Julie Roberts, Anna Scott and Will thaka here Grant bump
into each other after the which always find these kind
of bumpings can be a bit you know whatever. But
they realized on the first take that orange juice doesn't
actually stay. So it's just like this damp quite wet.
It was wet patch, which is not as cool as
(44:21):
seeing the orange. So I had to get some orange
paint into the orange juice to make it a carp there. Richard,
this is interesting. Richard Curtis often tells the story that
he came up with the idea just one night. I
was in bed, thinking, what would happen if, you know,
(44:45):
a regular person went out with a movie you know,
a movie star, Like if I went to a dinner
party at my friend's house and Madonna was there, Well, yeah,
and we and we kind of there's some chemistry. Could
could that happen?
Speaker 2 (44:57):
Here?
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Grant tells a different story here. Grant he reckons he
Richard Curtis has got on the cans with him a
few times and told him the story about a friend
of his who met a famous woman of the world
in Harold's and they went back to his place and
Shenanigan's ensued on and off again relationship ensued. I believe
(45:21):
he's an American actress, and he's so fearful of the
name of the people getting out, or particularly the name
of the actress, that he's just kind of he's just
like ignored the fact that this that's how the idea
for the movie actually began, and he's just kind of
came up with this. Oh, I just thought of it.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
So is there any theories on I didn't.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
Track it down. Maybe I should have got on get
on Reddit maybe and check that theory down. But it's
a better it's a better story.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
Then we can check out.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
I just thought about it. I mean, yeah, apparently. And
he's not based on Julie Roberts Grace Caley analogy hepboom
where the inspirations for the characters, but she feels kind
of Julia Roberts to me. But yes, Emma Holland, thank
you so much.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
This podcast comes with a little bit of homework, and
you did it. Okay, you've already done your homework. Thank
You've already done your homework. Wonderful, So thank you so much.
Is there anything you're you're doing at the moment you
would like to get to the world. What do you go?
Speaker 2 (46:30):
I've got a plug. I just released a kid's book,
of course, Welcome Class. Thank you. I I wrote it
specifically because I knew you hadn't I wanted to shove
you out of the industry.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
Oh, you've got a bit of catching up to Galileo.
Book two, The dog Father, comes out in November. Yes,
if you got your movies, there's a little ty in. Yes,
tell us about your book.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
It's called Stories for the Kid next Door. It's short
stories and poems. Kind of absurd if you like Andy
Griffiths Paul Jennings, it's kind of in the same break.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
Paul Jennings is a massive influence on me. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
I think he was for a lot of comics. So good,
so good.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Yeah, so yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
I hope this book is at least some kind of
owe to his influence on me.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
Have you done signing the book signings at schools or
have you no?
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Kind of just starting. I'm doing my first library visit
on Thursday, which is very exciting. It's you.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
You love it so much. It's such a beautiful world
of like they're very honest the kids, yes, which is
kind of great. But there's a complete also lack of cynicism,
you know, like they just they just open hearted and
they're they're excited. They'll be excited for you to be there.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
They love I'm so nervous and no one's going to
show up.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
They will, they will, they will.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
Yeah, I'm sorry. Start I love kids. I love like
working with them and getting to make art for them.
So it's very cool that this all came together.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
Well, I haven't read the book yet, but I've seen
I've seen the artwork and the.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
Yeah, shout out to Chris Kennet, the illustrator, for doing that.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
It looks amazing.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
Yeah, it's incredible.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
How good is it? I've been with any joiner on Galileo,
and when you get the pictures the illustrations back, it's
an exciting day. You can think, oh, this has got better.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
I specifically wanted him as well. Like his style. I
felt really much the energy of what I was writing,
and I was so nervous about them asking him because
I was like, oh, what if he says no? And
then he did and I was so happy. But yeah,
it's just like it's exactly what I pictured for the
book was just the amount of I always just describe
it as the energy he brings to it, like the
(48:37):
stories come alive with his illustrations. It's incredible.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
No, it's one of the really happy days of my
life when I'm writing something and the illustrations coming from
talented illustrators, well fantastic. Get that it's in all good bookstores,
every single one of them. If you look out for
book signings and opportunities to meet Emma.
Speaker 2 (48:57):
Yeah, please come just for my sake.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
You heard her on look you fe a little bit
sorry for her, a bit nervous about people rocking up
and no and any travel bookstores appearances coming up.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
None currently, but it will be in the future, so
keep an eye out.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
Thank you so much, Thank you. How great is Emma Holland?
That was a fun couple of episodes, both her three
favorite films in Finding the Email, About Time and Boiling Point.
I have to get onto that and to chat about
notting Hill. I was very relieved that she enjoyed it.
The onus is not on our guest to have to
enjoy the film they just watched, but it Yeah, I'm
(49:36):
just glad she did. When she mentioned it About Time
was one of her favorite films, I had a feeling
at an inkling that notting Hill might be thereabouts. Thanks
for listening to everybody. Feel free to go to iTunes
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