REPETE: Danielle Walker and Goodfellas

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, Peter, Hell, are you here? Welcome to you Ain't
seen nothing yet? The Movie Podcast We're our chat to
a movie lover about a classic or beloved movie they
haven't quite got around to watching until now. And today's
guest comedian Danielle Walker.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
All below.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
I want to stay here with you.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
The jobble, my hat snake sucked? Why hail?

Speaker 5 (00:43):
You haven't any right now?

Speaker 6 (00:46):
Don't see nothing here.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Danielle Walker has gotten into the habit of winning. This
hilarious rural Queenslander burst onto the Aussie comedy scene by
taking out Raw Comedy at a twenty sixteen Melbourne International
Comedy Festival. She then won Best Newcomer at the same
festival in twenty eighteen with her debut show Bush Rat,
which she took to London to rave reviews. More recently,

(01:20):
Danielle took part in the inaugural season of Taskmaster Australia,
in which she you Guessed It won Giosso wins with
every appearance she makes, from Get Cracking to Tonightly with
Tom Ballard. Right now, she has struck gold in the
new ABC historical comedy Gold Diggers, in which she stars
alongside Claire Lovering as sisters who arrive in an eighteen

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fifty three Australian gold rush town on a mission to
find themselves two rich idiot men to marry and get
rich from.

Speaker 5 (01:51):
You know they're gold diggers.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Danielle's comedy has been called dark and strange, but I
can tell you that Danielle is an absolute joy to
be around. Experience recently of bumping into Danielle on the
red carpet at the Logi Awards and the joy on
her face when she saw Scott Cam. It wasn't just
a joy in her face, it was the tears welling
in her eyes. I then managed to grab Scott Cam

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and bring him over and introduce Danielle to Scott Cam
and she was, oh my god. She was like a child,
like a fourteen year old child at a supermarket in
nineteen eighty six meeting Kylie Minogue. That's how excited she
was to meet Scott Cam from the block. They had photos.

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It was a lovely moment. And it's got who Danielle is.
She's got a joyous I find she's talented, she's hilarious,
she's inventive, she's funny, and I'm bloody stoked to be
hanging with her today.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
Hello, my name is Daniel Walker. My three favorite films
are Andre the Seal. He came to us from the
wild and I named him Andre after a famous seal train.
He's my best friend, and our favorite colors Relic.

Speaker 7 (03:17):
It's here.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Under the bed, No, there's nothing under the bad nam,
Are you sure?

Speaker 3 (03:29):
And Hunt for the Wilder People. Haukner is Cork. Cork Asian,
while they got their own because you're obviously white. And
up until last night, I hadn't seen Goodfellas.

Speaker 8 (03:42):
As far back as I can remember, I always wanted
to be a gangster.

Speaker 5 (03:54):
I know I'd go from rides through. It's in the
mid to late nineteen eighties.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Martins Corsese rings author of Mafioso crime bestseller Wise Guys,
and declares, this is the book I've been waiting my
whole life for. The author replies, this is the phone
call I've waited my whole life for. So begins the
partnership that brings us one of the all time great
crime films. The mere fact that gets mentioned in the

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same breath as Coppler's The Godfather films, says enough. As
far back as he could remember, Henry Hill wanted to
be a gangster, and he works his way up through
to the various ranks to become a good fella. What
follows is a violent, tense, funny, at times epic, featuring
one of the great voiceovers of all time, an Oscar
winning performance from Joe Pesky as the sassiopath thing skinned.

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Tommy di Niro is brilliant as Jimmy Conway, but it
is the late great rail of the Odder as Henry
Hill who anchors his thrilling ride. It's also worth noting
twenty seven actors for featuring in Goodfellas would go on
to appear in HBO's The Sopranos, most notably Lorraine Bracco,
who play Henry Hill's battered and shattered wife Karen. She
is brilliant in this Nominated for seven Oscars, Pesky was

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the only one to win, but it did jag five.

Speaker 5 (05:08):
Bafters for me. Good Fellows is all timed.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Dannielle Walker, have you done a slight cash gig on
the side and then splurged on a pink Cadillac.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
I haven't splurged on a pink Cadillac, but I did
get a purple Honda jazz, so not too disimal and.

Speaker 5 (05:26):
Off the books. Off the books, of course.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
You've got to do some off the books gigs.

Speaker 5 (05:31):
Welcome, Welcome to you. Ain't seeing nothing again.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
I'm thrilled to have you on board, and I'm thrilled
to talk about this movie, which I'll say after get going,
unless we want to know what you thought of the
film from the get go. We'll get to that later.
But I do love this film. This is right up
there for me. Why haven't you seen Good Fellows or
how aware of it were you?

Speaker 3 (05:53):
Well? I when I was growing up. We'll use the
video store, and I don't think it occurred to me
to get that one out. I think I was like, oh,
I got to pick something that my sisters can watch too,
and it wasn't on teeth. I had a bedtime of
eight thirty until the end of high school.

Speaker 5 (06:13):
So to the end of high school, yeah, I was.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
Like seventeen being forced to go to my room at
eight thirty. I'd put a towel down underneath the door though,
so Dad couldn't see the light streaming out, and try
and read a book if I could, So I think
that's why I haven't.

Speaker 5 (06:29):
Seen it even reading up until year twelve? Was in bed?
Was a no night?

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah no, because if not, I'd be tired for school
the next day because you couldn't put a book down.
I think it was that mum also had books in
the you know, I think people think books are like
that is a pursuit of somebody with an intelligent mind.
But there's also a lot of a lot of absolute drivel, right,
and that's what I think I really went towards as

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a teenage girl, was like, what do you have their? Mum?
Is that Virginia? My mom recommended me Virginia Andrews to
read as like a fourteen year old, that's a lot
of incest and stuff. And I was like, Mum, as
an adult going, what are you? What did you recommend me?

Speaker 5 (07:16):
I'm not aware of Virginia Andrews?

Speaker 7 (07:18):
Was it?

Speaker 9 (07:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (07:19):
She wrote flowers in the attic?

Speaker 5 (07:22):
Heard of that? Okay, yeah that's big.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
So so with that said, what were your movie Did
you go to the movies at the cinema? You came
from a small town in Queensland. Was there a cinema
there that you go a lot? As a family? Did
you go with friends? How did you what was your
movie diet.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Like, I think I probably went to the movies twice
a year as a kid, probably with Nana on school
holidays or as a teenager, maybe with friends every now
and then, but that would usually be more of like
a comedy situation with friends. We wouldn't go for a drama.
We'd go to watch like that Hangover or something like that.

Speaker 5 (08:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
Yeah, And as a kid, it was like, well, well
then I got to go with my sisters. They're eight
years younger than me, so yeah. Also, Nana would fall
asleep in movies all the time, so you've got to
keep it to ninety minutes.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Well, there's nothing wrong with a ninety minute film. We're
not dealing with a nine minute film today. And I
do thank you for putting aside two and a half hours.

Speaker 5 (08:21):
To watch Good Fellas.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Let's get to your three favorite films. A couple that
I actually haven't seen, Andre the Seal. Yes, take us
through Andrea Seal.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
I thought that Andre the Seal was a very big
movie in the zeitgeist for everybody in the world until
I was an adult and realized that I just video
taped it and watched it regularly over like every week,
and that was not everybody else's experience. And so the

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film is it's based off a true story. A man
who's a fisherman in town. He is having trouble. The
seals keep eating all the fish, and other fishermen are
killing the seals. But then this pop seal climbs into
his boat and then he raises it and it becomes
best friends with his daughter, Tony, who now as an adult,

(09:15):
who has been told I am adhd and autistic. I
have diagnosed her because she was marrying chickens to pigeons
and she had like a frog in her pocket, and oh,
she was definitely on the exact same spectrum as me.
And she took the seal the school and they did
dances together and the seal eventually he gets let go

(09:38):
and he comes back to the bay every single year
to visit the family, and it's beautiful.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
What I like about that is often on this podcast
when we chat about movies we loved as a kid,
it kind of what comes up quite a bit is
that thing where this happened a video you know, record
on the VHS tape. These all five movies and they're
the ones you just watched like you watched them over
and over again. And I remember, and even more to

(10:06):
your point, I remember there was a few movies that
I just kind of discovered on TV because you know,
we had we had those options, we had like those
three or four channels.

Speaker 5 (10:14):
And there was one movie called Turk one a two.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Which was like a graffiti Artist, which you know, again
I would have thought at the time, Oh, everyone knows
Turk one a two, and then you realize, oh no,
I just happened to record this on the TV and
nobody else was watching it.

Speaker 5 (10:30):
You know.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Another one was Mask that I watched, which is a
bit more well known than say Turk one a two,
and that was with Chaer and Eric Stoltz with a
guy called about a character, the true story about a
guy called Rocky Dennis who had the kind of I
don't know exactly his condition, but he basically had a
face that was affected by something.

Speaker 5 (10:53):
And that's a really intensitive way of putting it.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
I think that's the most sensitive way of putting it.
I didn't say he looked messed up, he was gross looking.
He didn't say anything. He said he just he had
a condition. That's a really sensitive way.

Speaker 5 (11:09):
Oh, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
There have been times because Rockys they become a bit
of a like when I was younger at school because
it was a well enough movie that most of the
kids had seen it, and he became a bit of
a punchline. So I am more sensitive around the Rocky
Dennis cultural references these days. But he it was a
beautiful movie, like really sad, really sad. But it was

(11:34):
one of those movies that I kind of thought, well,
this must be one of the biggest you know, every
one of the world must have seen this. And then
the odder I got, I realized that a lot of
people hadn't seen them. And that's your Android to Seal,
which I just IMDb and it doesn't even come up
in IMDb.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Really yeah, so gosh, it's got the girl from Uh
this is a crossover because I listened to an app
to know what the show was going to be, and
I listened to the Sushi Mango and it's got the
girl from Napoleon Dynamite in it as a child. She's
the little girl who looks after Andre the Seal.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Oh, well, that's worth checking it out, just for that,
just for that.

Speaker 5 (12:16):
Andre the Seal.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Okay, Well, if we can find it, we'll watch it
the relic that's kind of lives in the an action
kind of alien style kind of film.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Is that relic is? I only watched it recently, and
I've only watched it once, but it's had like a
really big effect on me. It's an Australian sort of
I think it's like a horror psychological drama or something,
and it's yes, really beautiful and terrifying. It's I can't

(12:48):
I I was googling it after I watched it because
I've really it's probably the film that I've felt like
it had the most impact on me of recent times.
I just really loved it. It was like about, I
don't want to spoil anything, but the mum has dementia
and it sort of goes through that in a really
interesting way. And then I really liked the sort of

(13:11):
like the message of the film is something that I've
been thinking about for quite a while. So I just
I really loved it, and I thought the imagery and
the way it was shot and the storytelling and it
was really beautiful.

Speaker 5 (13:25):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
So's from twenty twenty Emily Mortimer, the English actress who
I think was in Frenzy.

Speaker 5 (13:31):
How many years ago?

Speaker 1 (13:31):
For those who watch more TV and Robin Nevin plays
the mother, and Bella Heathcot, who's a wonderful Austraing young actress,
is in it as well, so I know that I'm
looking it up. So this is not off the top
of my head, but I do recall this. I don't
want you to going to go, well, why didn't I

(13:52):
know that information? Yes, so that got really they got
rave reviews actually, but embarrassingly I haven't seen it.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
I think it's like one of those ones that when
you're well, this is how I felt when I was
watching it, I was like not like, it made me
feel really uncomfortable, and I was like confused, and I
didn't really like it. And then in the last you
know when a movie just in the last bit it
all falls into place and you completely get it and

(14:24):
then you retroactively really love the way the story's been told.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
Yeah, I just felt like, because yeah, you can kind
of relax after that, you can kind of go, Okay,
it makes sense. Yeah, it's interesting that that happened. And
you haven't gone back to watch it again. But is
it something that you will go back and watch again
or is it something where you go and go, no,
that lives perfectly fine in my head.

Speaker 5 (14:46):
The way it is.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
I think I will watch it again, but I think
I'll need to do it when I'm feeling really happy
and good because I reckon. I cried for like forty
five minutes after that film, and I was just My
partner was very confused because it is a horror and
I was just like, it's a beautiful film, and he

(15:09):
was confused by that. But I really loved the way
it was told and I thought it was executed really wonderfully.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Another film that was executed wonderfully, and it's come up
a few times on this podcast, is Hunt for the
Wilder of People. What a gorgeous film. I saw this.
I happen to be in New Zealand at the time.
I went and saw it, and I then came back
and took my kids, took my kids, picked them up
from school and took them to see a Hunt for
the World of People. It's just a beautiful, beautiful film

(15:38):
and very funny.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
Oh yeah, I love I love it. I mean, as
somebody who is from the country and has quite an
eccentric family and grew up with pig shooting, like feral
pig hunting and has an obsession with her granddad. Old
older male figures off on a bush adventure is my

(16:01):
dream cinematic experience.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Well, it is an extraordinary obviously it's just taikow tit.
The man behind that, Sam Neil is in it. A
great performance and I apologize the young actor who's now
doing gellect commercials, but I have just slipped his name
has slipped my memory. And Rhys Starby, he's very funny

(16:28):
in it. I think Rachel House is in there as well.
It's it's just a gorgeous film with and what New
Zealanders and the Kiwis do really well. They seem to
have nailed this kind of heart funny, quirky with that,
you know, going over the top with it. Have you

(16:49):
seen many of Taiko's films? Have you seen Boy or Yeah?

Speaker 3 (16:53):
I watched Boy and I watched that ages ago where
I was working at a call center back in the
day in Townsville and my best friend at work was
from New Zealand, so she introduced me to Boy and
a bunch of other sort of New Zealand films and
I really loved all of them, and I don't know,
I just like really find yeah that storytelling style really great.

(17:16):
I feel like it captures the I don't know, like
the minute shit of the insanity of regular life. You know,
like those terms of phrases that people use, all the
way that people behave that's sort of insane. But people
miss it.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yeah, yeah, and their ability to have those kind of
insane moments.

Speaker 5 (17:34):
But you don't.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
They don't lose the fabric of what the movie's about,
or you're not. You're not taking out of the movie
for the sake of a joke like that. Yeah, the
speech a tiger plays like a pastor or a priest
in and he's given his sermon and he's mentioning like
Fanter and thees, you know, lollies and candy, and it's
it's hilarious, but you're still you're not taken out of

(17:59):
the film. You're still kind of feeling, you know, the
writing motions whenever you're supposed to be feeling them.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
Yeah, well, I like it because I do think that
I don't know, a priest is just a regular guy.
Our priest out well, he was a Franciscan friar. I
guess is that a I don't know, he was a
father Jiles at school. He was absolutely wonderful. And also
you know he wasn't just talking about the Bible. He
was off on tangents constantly. At church. You'd be like, dude,

(18:25):
it's thirty five degrees and humid in this church. Does
not have any fans. Wrap it up.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
We had a priest too, whenever when they're Catholic, was
raised Catholic.

Speaker 5 (18:41):
We've got to church every Saturday.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
And our parish priest was a mad Carlton support in
the AFL or VFL back then. So if Carlton won,
he would he would It would be the quickest mass
ever because all he wanted to do was go back
and wants to replay. Because now I mean, now there's
twenty four to seven, you know, access to any of
any sport, but back then you basically had an hour

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of this is like, you know, five percent of one
of the games and ten percent of another game, and
then there's some little highlights and it went for an hour,
and that's if you didn't see it, if you didn't
record it, you missed it. So he was always very
keen to get back and watch Calen. But if Carton lost,
the massively a bit longer and it'd be like literally
the difference between twenty minutes if Carlton one and forty

(19:26):
five minutes if they lost. So I was always a
little bit happy if Carlton won, even though they are
my arch nemesis. As far as the team that I support.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
I mean that's good as a win win. I guess
either way, if they lose, then your team wins exactly right.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
Hey, before we get onto Good Fellas, Danielle, I want
to our listeners they can get onto our speak pipe
and leave a message and be part of the show,
have a thought about something we've put out there on
the show. So this is from Nick, who joined the
speak Pipe.

Speaker 7 (19:59):
Hey, Pete, thank you so much for the podcast. I've
been loving it. I've been a massive Pete fan ever
since Skit House and then watching you on the Mainland
comedy Gla Circuit and the Melbourne comedy Gala itself. Always
loved it. Just really wanted to shout out Infernal Affairs,
what a cracking, what a cracking movie one of my
absolute favorites, and I have to say that, come on
when you're comparing it for the Departed. Yes, there has

(20:21):
been some stylistic choices that have dated in Infernal Affairs,
but the same can be made about The Departed. The
ending with the rat crawling is so over the top.
Same too with the opera scene with Jack Nicholson clapping
and cocaine going everywhere. It's just I totally agree with
your point book that you made that the Americans have
yet to conquers subtlety. I just wanted to give a

(20:44):
shout out. If you're ever interested in another movie that
compares both Western cinema versus like you know, Japanese or sorry,
Asian cinema, you should check out your Jimbo and comparing
that to Fist Full of Dollars. Both use the same,
uh same sort of screenplay. But your Jimbo was written beforehand. Sorry,

(21:04):
it was directed beforehand, and you can clearly see that
there are some shots for shots that seem absolutely identical.
Loving the podcast, please keep it up much love.

Speaker 5 (21:15):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Nick's played that, Danielle just to you know, remind everybody
that was on Skirit House the National Comedy Festival. Have
you seen any of those movies? Have you seen Fernal
Affairs or The Departed?

Speaker 3 (21:29):
No, I've not seen Oh wait, I watched The Departed
way back in the day. That's right. I've watched that
as a child. That was one that was on TV
on a weekend when I was allowed to stay up
past eight thirty. The Departed. That's not Leonardo DiCaprio, isn't it.

Speaker 5 (21:43):
The It's got the Caprio has got Matt Damon and.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a you know, there's a scene
that Scorsese he put in. It's a remaker of a
of a Chinese or Hong Kong film calling Feral Affairs,
which we covered a few weeks ago with Michael Hings
a really fun episode. And there's a scene at the
end of the Scorsese version of The Parted where there's

(22:08):
a rat that crawls across the window, ledge or the balcony.
But it's clearly saying, oh aren't there? Rats are everywhere?
And you know, because the film is about yeah, there's
a lot of corruption, and it's just a bit, it's
a bit on the nose, it's just a bit. You
didn't really need to do that, Martin, because it's a
Scorsese film, funny enough. So yeah, and I will check

(22:31):
out you Jimbo and a fist full of dollars. Embarrassingly,
I haven't seen a fist full of dollars. I will
go and check that out. Thank you, Nick, and get
onto our speak pipe and we'll start bringing more of
these to throughout the show. Okay, let's go, Dannielle Walker.
Before right, we asked you whether you liked Good Fellows.
Let's just have it all.

Speaker 5 (22:50):
Listen to this.

Speaker 8 (22:51):
To me, being a gangster was better than being President
of the United States.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
Loves all.

Speaker 8 (23:00):
Even before I first wandered into the cab stand for
an after school job, I knew I wanted to be
a part of them, and was there that I knew
that I belonged to me, And then being somebody in
the neighborhood that was full of nobody's they weren't like
anybody else.

Speaker 9 (23:15):
I mean, they did.

Speaker 8 (23:15):
Whatever they wanted. They double parked in front of a hydrant,
and nobody ever gave them a ticket. In the summer,
when they played cards all night, nobody ever called the cops.

Speaker 5 (23:25):
Must Start Forever.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
From nineteen ninety, based on the book Wise Guys by
Nicholas Peleggi co written the screenplay with Martin Scorsese, who
also directed, obviously starring Rayleioda.

Speaker 5 (23:41):
They liked great Rayleiota Robert.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
DeNiro, Jopesky, Lorraine Bracco, Daniel Walker.

Speaker 5 (23:47):
Did you enjoy Goodfellas?

Speaker 3 (23:49):
I did? There were there were little bits of it
that I was like, Okay, that bit maybe could have
been shorter, but I I really I did enjoy it.
I like a movie that starts with when I was
a kid. Here's all the things, here's all the insight,
this is everything you need to know about me. It

(24:09):
just helps me. I like it.

Speaker 5 (24:12):
Well.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
It's a really interesting point because there are some people
in you know, the cinephile world who you know, really
do not like voiceovers, and this one in particular, I
think it's one of the great voiceovers. I think this
and Shawshank Redemption till my favorite voiceover movies. But often
they say show and don't tell in movies, so you know,

(24:36):
less dialogue, and you know, it's a visual medium, so
let's show the audience what you're trying to convey. The
voiceover is giving a lot of information, which is kind
of against you know, the film.

Speaker 5 (24:48):
School rules, but I think it really works.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
I think Rayleiotta's voice is insanely good, and I don't know,
I like it as well. I like, you know, this
is a movie that wants to start and like bring
you up the speed quickly and keep moving and with momentum,
and I think to bring us into this world.

Speaker 5 (25:05):
I think it's just a really good way of doing it.
And I felt like I knew this world.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Quite quickly, you know, I kind of understood a lot
of it, you know.

Speaker 5 (25:17):
Yeah, really quickly.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
Yeah, I felt like I could understand. I felt like you,
it'd be too much exposition to set up why he
loves mob life if you didn't have all that, Like
it would be like to have to show his dad
hitting him and then to show all the stuff he gets,
like it would be too much. I liked it. It
was just like this, this this this great. Now I

(25:39):
can be in the story.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
Yes, And because this is also over twenty five year period,
it does kind of make these big dramatic cuts and
goes back and forth. And you're right, and that's a
really good example of the dad hitting him with the belt. Like, yeah,
there's a way you could do that, but it's probably
going to add another minute of screen time, you know,

(26:02):
to actually build up to that moment. You can't just
cut for him whacking him with that. Maybe a build
up to that I think so. I think it's also
time saving device. And with the film already at two
and a half hours, I think, you know.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
Devices.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
Well, okay, so where do you want to Where do
you want to start? Well, where do you want to
go next?

Speaker 3 (26:25):
Well? I would like to go with the This is
just a thing that they didn't Why did they mention
the ages of characters at different points? Because that was
bits that I was like, so, we're supposed to believe
that Robert de Niro is twenty eight years old right here,
and then I googled he's forty six years old. And
then there was another bit where Raleiota when he's marrying
Karen I think that's her name in the film at nineteen,

(26:46):
and I'm like, that's clearly a mid thirty couple.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
Well, you exactly right, as far as Rayleiota goes, he
was thirty five I think when they sh shot this.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
Yeah, and then yeah, I googled Robert de Niro and
he said they said I think they said, yeah, forty
six or something. Cosey oh. I was like, this is
not a twenty eight year old man. And then but
then I liked it later on when he was supposed
to age up. They just put some baby powder in
his hair because they were like, really, can't look the
same at fifty five as he did when he was
supposedly twenty eight.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
And I mean, and Joe Pesky's character Tommy, his looks
way older than he's supposed to to look as well.
So how much did that? I have had people talk
about this and that bothers some more than others. For me,
I get used to American films. I mean, you would
never enjoy Grease. You you wouldn't get past the first

(27:39):
scene of Greece, you know, the movie, not the country,
if you were perturbed by the ages of those characters.
I mean, these are high school students, you know, Rizzo's
thirty five, like they were all. You know, they're probably
the youngest twenty five. Yeah, And I said, I've never
and I've never. I think I clocked obviously that they're

(28:00):
they're older than they look, and he doesn't look twenty one.
But it's never It's never bothered me that much. And meanly,
I saw this in cinemas when I was sixteen, so
you know, your your maybe ability to the pinpoint ages
is a bit skew, if but how much did it
bother you?

Speaker 5 (28:18):
Did it take you out enough? Or did it or
were you able to get through it?

Speaker 7 (28:22):
Well?

Speaker 3 (28:22):
I just wish they hadn't mentioned the ages, because I
didn't think that I needed to. But they bothered me
with that bit because also I remembered growing up and
people were older in films, but I didn't clock that
the actors were older because I thought, well, they've cast
somebody who looks that age to play that thing. So
I grew up genuinely, I had this whole theory in

(28:43):
my head because I didn't ask anybody about it, that
you know how you got to go grow corn in
like a square so that the branches cross pollinate. I
genuinely thought that in America there were so many more
people there that like there were womons in the air
that made them grow up faster. And that's why American

(29:04):
High School is the kids looked older than anybody at
my school looked. But I made this theory up in
my head.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
I had the same theory but without the corn. So
I honestly thought Americans are just they must grow differently
and maybe go through puberty before we do, or or because.

Speaker 5 (29:24):
They all look older.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
I mean, yeah, you go through high school movies and
you know, from without a cause, like I said, the Grease,
you know, even there something like mean Girls, and like
everyone's playing and it's gotten better. I think, I think
now we're onto it. But yeah, it is a weird
thing that can It can ruin a movie for you,

(29:46):
There's no doubt about it. Or I can certainly take
you out for enough of a period of time where
you're not enjoying.

Speaker 5 (29:50):
It as much as you should.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Yeah, I mean the corn theory I love. I mean,
like I said, I never I never went deep enough
to kind of understand why Americans, you know, looked thirty
five at high school.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
It's just because they were thirty five. But I just
didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
And by the way, I think when you say, I think, okay,
it makes sense.

Speaker 5 (30:14):
But I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
If you said to me this corn had to be
grown in the box, I was like, maybe, maybe not.

Speaker 5 (30:21):
I don't know. So I've learned something today, thank you.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
No worries. I mean I did learn something in the
I did learn a lot in the film, which I
liked as well.

Speaker 5 (30:28):
I did, like the never to rat on your friends.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
I learned not to run on my friends. And I
learned that you can't be a made man if you've
got a bit of Irish in you. Yes, And so
I mean, I guess anything that's just not Italian, because
I was like my partner, he's Italian, but he's like,
I mean, we've got a magnet on the fridge that
says proud Aussie wog, but he's like one Italian grandparent

(30:54):
and the rest are all different immigrants. And so I
was last night being like, girl, are you excited to
watch Goodfellows? Like really amping him up for an Italian
film all day and then and then I at the
end it was like, oh, I'm sorry that you can't
be a made man. I didn't know. I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Well, I have an update on that, to be honest,
Danny El. So this may be good news because they
changed it in two thousand oh the five families who
were referred to as the Commission got together and they
have changed it so you don't need to be full
Italian as long as long as your father is Italian.

(31:37):
Ah okay, and your surname needs to be Italian, which
means that Jimmy Conway and Henry Hill still couldn't actually
be made man, But I'm not sure how that affects
your your blo.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
Like if you've got if you've got like if your grandfather,
if your paternal grandfather is Italian, that would make your
father like half Italian, which would make you then fine, right,
and he's got the last name, he's master Polito.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Oh well, that's that sounds atating. I think it could
be a made man by the end of the year.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
Great, I'll send him out off on some missions.

Speaker 5 (32:09):
Did he enjoy it? Did he watch all of the film?

Speaker 3 (32:11):
Or yeah, he enjoyed it. I mean, he'd watched it before,
so he was excited to watch it again. He said
he really liked it, So, I mean he did fall
asleep towards the end. But we've kind of we've got
pneumonia in this house, so where we're on any biotics
where really I had to I'm not gonna lie. I
did have to look up the end of the film

(32:33):
this morning, just to see if I did remember the
end of the film, because it just sort of I
felt like the way it was was like here's all
the information at the start, and then these really long
scenes and or like really intricate storytelling, and then towards
the end, which I guess is I guess it's supposed
to portray his descent into sort of manic thoughts and

(32:56):
sort of stress or something like the really short, sharp
scenes that came towards the end. But I really I
feel like sometimes I need longer scenes to latch onto.
If they're too fast, I'll be like, oh, like almost
like strobe lights.

Speaker 5 (33:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
Well, I mean it's obviously a deliberate choice. To the
start of the film has these beautiful, long kind of
tracking shots where we get introduced to everyone. In fact,
let's have a little listen to the first introduction. We're
walking into the Bamboo Lounge, which is soon to be
set on fire, but this is where we meet the guys.

Speaker 9 (33:36):
There was Jimmy and Tommy and me, and there was
Anthony Stabile, Frankie Carbone, and then there was more Black's
brother Fat Andy and his guys, Frankie the Wild, Freddie
No Nose, and then there was Pete the Killer who

(34:00):
was Sally Balls's brother.

Speaker 5 (34:05):
And you had nicky eyes.

Speaker 9 (34:08):
And makey franchise, I want to see it, and Jimmy
two times you've got that nickname because he said everything
twice late you.

Speaker 5 (34:15):
Want to get get the feep.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Yeah, said, it's the beautiful and again go back to
the voiceover and introducing us to the work that world.
Most of those characters don't even appear that much in
the film or if ever after that, some of them,
but you are just taking into this world and you
have these beautiful long tracking shots in the first half
of the film, particularly early, and then you have the
beautiful one where he takes Karen out on the date

(34:42):
and that you go through the kitchen and they bring
a table out and you know, I'm not sure if
you've ever had a table carried for you, you know,
in a restaurant. That's that's my dream, Danielle. But it's
it's it's that's an incredible shots. And and they're littered
in the first half of the film, and then in
the back half of the film, when, as you say,

(35:03):
he's coked up and he's done to get paranoid, the
editing becomes much kind of more frenetic and tighter.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (35:11):
I I.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
Did have some questions about the film, and maybe I
can ask just those two, which was because I loved
I think like the thing that really set up like
the love of the mafia sort of mob situation was
like that scene when he goes to court and then
at the end they're all sort of waiting there to
like hug him and congratulated him and be like, oh,
you're a part of this family and stuff like that

(35:35):
was really nice, and also you could see why, you know,
I did Scouts growing up, and I was like, Oh, yes,
this is my tribe, these are my people. And I
feel like I was confused by so that the reason
that they didn't because I just didn't understand why they
liked Tommy the whole time he seemed fully psychotic. Is
was it sort of like a relationship of they were

(35:59):
hoping that he would be a made man and so
then that would provide them protection. They were hoping the
whole time that if they aligned themselves with him that
would be the case. Because I just sort of felt
like the whole time he was fully crazy, killing people,
going nuts, and if I was them, I would have
been like, I don't actually want to hang out with

(36:19):
this guy. He's freaking me out a little bit, and
he's gonna just cheat people and we're going to get
sent to prison.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
My reading on Tommy, I don't think they're doing it
for strategic reasons, because he might be a made man
at some point. It's more that simpler that they are.
They're aware that they are surrounded by potentially dangerous characters,
but because they the family feel too. And you said,

(36:48):
you know, when the young Henry comes out of the
court case, you know, he's embraced, and you do. I
think it's an excellent point that you make. You really
do feel you feel good for him. You know, he's
getting beaten up at home. This is this is his
new family, and so you're on board that these guys
are going to take care of each other. Now we
all know where it goes and they start, you know,

(37:10):
double crossing each other, but up until that point, and
I think Tommy does get more dangerous as the movie
goes along. But with that said, you know he does
hold court, you know at the restaurant, is a funny guy.
Like they are genuinely pissing themselves laughing at everything he does.
And you know, you can imagine, you know, being entertained

(37:31):
by this guy and not think he's gonna Yeah, he's
like a brother. You know, he's not gonna So I
think that's and I've kind of I don't know anyone
is extremist Tommy, but I know I certainly know guys
who are being around people who can be really funny,
but they have.

Speaker 5 (37:48):
Other quirks of their personality that you don't love.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
But you know you not only tolerate them, but you
can actually still, you know, put your arm around him
and and you know you're part of their They're part
of the gang. And I think I think it gets
more worrying as it goes along. I mean, there's I
think one of the odd time great introductions to a character,
even though it's not the first time we se him
on screen, is the I'm funny, I'm funny how scene?

Speaker 5 (38:12):
Yeah, which is it's kind of terrifying.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
I kind of love watching these scenes in movies where
it is just on on the edge of somebody who
you just and it sets it up because we know
stuff's gonna happen later where he does kind of carry
through with some stuff which we'll get too soon. But
that that scene, how did you feel watching that I'm

(38:36):
funny how?

Speaker 5 (38:37):
Scene?

Speaker 3 (38:38):
Well, I I think we are him in that moment
where Henry in that moment like, yeah, I think we
have to wait till the moment to be like, oh,
I think he's ah, he's joking with us, but he's
just like you can't really tell. But also it felt
like a dominance move a little bit, and I was like, Okay, oh,

(39:00):
he wants us to like he's joking with us, but
he also wants to see if he'll be able to
dominate us sort of in that way. And yeah, it
made me feel uncomfortable and also not. Yeah, I just
didn't like I never liked Tommy at all, but I
also know that, like I could. I think it was

(39:23):
like I think as humor obviously changes over time and
stuff as well, it's like, I understand that this is
probably at the time super funny, and we're also watching
it like midway through a conversation, so you're not fully
getting the like beats of it. Yeah, but I'm understanding
that he's like a funny guy, but I'm also absolutely
terrified of this psycho little man. And I think, like

(39:47):
I just felt the whole time, I was like, why
is everybody hanging out with this little absolute fruit loop?
He's gonna kill I Just like I didn't find any
redeeming qualities in Tommy at all, and that also that
then made me question the judgment of everybody else.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, and like I said, I actually
forget that whatever joke he was telling. And you know,
I said, he wasn't judging his material, but just the
idea that he that he had he had the room. Yeah,
and those people are anyone can know who can have.

Speaker 5 (40:16):
A room, you know.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
And I'm not necessarily talking as comedians on stage, but
like just sitting around and having a group of twenty
people laugh at him, it's pretty intoxicating for a lot
of people to kind of go, yeah, he's a fun
guy to be around, whether you like his comedy or not.
But these guys clearly did.

Speaker 5 (40:35):
And then I think.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
It's it's interesting because according to the real Henry Hill,
Joe Pesky's kind of performance as Tommy is like he said,
nine ninety nine percent accurate because these are all you know,
he's based on real characters. And he said the only
difference was the real Tommy was quite heavily built.

Speaker 5 (40:54):
But I think it's.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
Quite interesting that, like putting aside the creative license that
they've taken, I think it's more interesting that he is
quite quite small, because he's got this Napoleon complex. You know,
he's got this inferiority complex that kind of I don't know,
He's just bubbling away and you know he's a centimeter
away from from tipping over the edge.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
Yeah, it does make you feel like a certain I
like I did feel like a if he wasn't killing people,
I would have felt a little bit like sorry for
him a little bit with that sort of little man
syndrome of like I got to prove myself like a chihuahua.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
And it's that that basically turns the whole movie on
its head because it's his inability to take this kind
of pretty gently gentle ribbing from Billy Batts about him
being a shoe shiner. Yeah, that turns everything upside down
because they kill a made man, and then it's and
then it's it's you know, it's it's how to pay
after that. There's an interesting thing about that scene. How

(41:57):
my funny scene is that Joe Pesky it actually happened
to him in real life. Somebody like a real life
mobster kind of took the piss out of him by saying,
you know, you know, why do you think I'm finding
in my clown? And he told that story to Martin Scorsese,
and it wasn't in the script, but Martin Scorsese said

(42:17):
on the day, and he brought Rayleiotta in on it.
He goes, I'm not going to tell anyone else, so
the extras won't know, all the other actors won't know
this is going to happen, but just play this out
and let's see where it goes. So the reactions of
those around Joe Pesky and Rayleiotta are kind of genuine
and in the moment, and they're not knowing where the

(42:37):
fuck this is going, which I love.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
That's yeah, that's really cool.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
And because it does obviously get to the point where,
like I said, a lot of the stuff doesn't happen.
We don't get through the film without Tommy because he's
the one who keeps fucking up, you know, And then
he starts, he certainly starts to fucking up, and then
Henry Hill starts fucking up. They start losing trust each other,
they start lying to each other. But there is the

(43:04):
scene that I want to play, maybe the scene I
think of the most when I think of this film,
which is the scene between they're all in their their
little hangout and it is Tommy again being thin skinned
and having some fun invert commas with Spider. I'm going

(43:25):
to play it in two parts. This is the first
part of Spider and Tommy.

Speaker 6 (43:32):
All Right, your little wreck. I thought I wants a
drink though, I'll bring it. Yeah, I'll give me a
fucking moving a little thread. You want my fucking stuff,
everybuddy else, you're fucking run for dance, dance to fucking
drink back here.

Speaker 5 (43:52):
Direct watch that movie.

Speaker 6 (43:54):
Which one, the one where we played a coup. We
only do the alcohola kit Malklahoma. Kit's me. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
Now he's moving army all right, So he got shot
in the four What is it to.

Speaker 6 (44:29):
Take him the bank? Caset a little brick? Let him
crawl there like he cross.

Speaker 5 (44:34):
Get back about the street.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
Physics, So he is shot Spider in the foot. Yeah,
he shot about four four rounds. So it's actually it's
actually almost an accident that he didn't actually shoot him,
which is about to happen. But there's something because I've
seen these quite a few times, so I kind of
divorced myself from you know, I don't think I necessarily

(44:58):
found a Certaly didn't find funny the first time I
saw it, But the more I watch it, I think
when you start watching performances, there's something about Joe Pesky's
performance where he's just like totally dismissing what he has done,
which I find darkly humorous. I do find oh, well
I shot him, like you know, like you she shot Okay. Look,
I do find that really darkly.

Speaker 5 (45:22):
Funny.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
Yeah, well, I guess he's like in his like in
my mind, I think that's so funny because it is
like that thing of like he's like, ah, well, I
could have killed him. Look, I just did a tiny
little thing. It's like a slap on the wrist in
his mind, like if if the punishment normally is death,
then this is just like a little slap to him.

Speaker 5 (45:44):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
And the great thing about this is the next THINGE
almost works without that even scene happening. You have to
obviously change, I think, because we know Tommy is on
edge and he's thin skinned. But then we come back
Spider's returned with his foot bandaged up. Spider played of
course by Michael Imperiali from The Sopranos. We'll get to

(46:06):
the amount of Sopranos actors in this film. Also more
recently in White Lotus season two, but he comes back
with his foot heavily bandaged, and Tommy he still wants
to have some inverted commas fun with him.

Speaker 6 (46:19):
Tell it you're looking for sympathy?

Speaker 2 (46:21):
Is that it's sweety?

Speaker 5 (46:22):
Why don't you go fuck yourself? Tommy, believe what.

Speaker 4 (46:30):
I just hope it's fair. Feel not a boy, but
it's gives me a lot of fucking balls.

Speaker 5 (46:38):
Good for you.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
Don't take your shoot off, nobody she shoots them of
the fucking shot.

Speaker 6 (46:46):
Get away with you.

Speaker 5 (46:48):
Let this fucking punk get away with the smile.

Speaker 6 (46:50):
What's the world coming to? What the fucking world is
coming to you?

Speaker 7 (46:57):
Like?

Speaker 6 (46:57):
That's that all right?

Speaker 5 (46:59):
What's the fun a matter?

Speaker 6 (47:00):
Just? What is this the fucking matter?

Speaker 4 (47:02):
What are you stupid?

Speaker 7 (47:03):
Or one?

Speaker 4 (47:04):
I'm kidding with you?

Speaker 6 (47:05):
What the fuck are you doing?

Speaker 7 (47:06):
You?

Speaker 4 (47:06):
What a fucking sick maniac?

Speaker 6 (47:07):
I don''t know if your kid?

Speaker 7 (47:08):
What do you mean?

Speaker 6 (47:09):
You're kidding you freaking my fucking fucking kidd with you?
You'll fucking shoot the guy it's dead.

Speaker 5 (47:17):
What was going through you? I mean were you expecting that?

Speaker 7 (47:19):
Like?

Speaker 1 (47:20):
Were you when those discussions were happening? When you know,
even earlier, when when when Spider was saying, you know,
I didn't know. I didn't know what you meant. I
didn't know you meant You're kind of almost arguing with him.
You're almost nervous. Then and then when he comes back
and says fuck you and the ribbing that then de
Niro Jimmy gives him. Did you foresee what was about

(47:42):
to happen? Did you have that feeling of dread?

Speaker 8 (47:44):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (47:45):
Yeah, I felt like I knew he was gonna kill
him as soon as he spoke back, and it stressed
me out. And then also when he had that, he
had like a different gun, Like he didn't have one
of those little guns. He had like a bigger I
don't know what it is like if it's an automatic
handgun or something like. It was different to those are
the ones. And that was like I was like, Oh,

(48:07):
he's like gotten a bigger gun, and this is stressful.
But also I felt like I felt like it was
like spied In my mind, Spider was sort of like
the new Henry Harry Henry.

Speaker 5 (48:22):
Yeah, yeah, Henry Henry.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
And I felt like it was like, oh, these guys
are not creating that family environment that he had growing up,
and so it's not going to have the same end
of like the way Pauli has like this peaceful I
don't know. He comes out of prison and it's just like, nah,
I don't want to die. I don't want I just
were not doing that stuff anymore. And I felt like

(48:45):
this was like the thing of like, oh, these boys
want to the rest of life doesn't it doesn't impact them,
like they want to be in the boys group for
forever and they'll continue to go down and it's just them,
like they're not thinking about the next generation or like
that same family environment which creates that like family vibe,
Like they were never going to create that family vibe

(49:07):
because they just expected it, like they didn't watch the
way they treated other people.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
I think that's such an excellent point because I had
wrote down that it's no coincidence that Spider looks like
a young young Henry.

Speaker 7 (49:21):
Like.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
In Scorsese films, I've often said covered a few, there's
no coincidences. So the casting, I mean, obviously they've cast
an Italian to play it, but there is a similarity.
And it's interesting that Henry does go to Spider and
he actually looks like Jimmy's kind of angry at what
he's done, but it's more like, you know, he knows
it's an inconvenience and now they had to deal with

(49:44):
this where Henry the look on Henry's face is like, fuck,
this is this is not the way this is going
to be. And maybe you're right, maybe there is that,
you know, Henry responds to feeling like he can see
himself in in Young Young Spider.

Speaker 5 (50:02):
I think that's a really excellent point.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
Well, yeah, I felt like I felt like Henry just
likes the like he's like results driven, Like he just
wants the outcomes, Like he wants to be treated like
a celebrity. He wants to have the money to buy
things and do things. And I felt like Tommy was
like he likes the power that comes with killing people,
and like he doesn't necessarily care as much about the

(50:24):
money as he cares about having respect from other people.

Speaker 5 (50:28):
Yeah, Henry wants.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
Henry wants to be a rock star and he wants
he doesn't want to work the way the other slubs work,
and he points out out in the you know, in
those early voiceovers and to the point where in real life,
once this movie comes out, Henry Hill starts start doing
interviews and ringing Howard Stern on air and like, so
the FBI basically had their basically say, Okay, well you're
not You're not in witness relocation anymore. You can't be

(50:54):
ringing Howard's done for witness relocation. So, yeah, he clearly
wanted to be known and be loved and be famous.

Speaker 5 (51:06):
That was I think he's a driving force.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
Yeah, I thought it was really interesting though different ways
of being in situations.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
Did you love What did you think of Henry Hill?
Did you I think it's an amazing performance from Rayleiota.
He doesn't get nominated for an oscar, which I think
we'll get through the Oscars of that year because it
is one of the more controversial oscars.

Speaker 5 (51:27):
Did you like Henry do you? What were your thoughts?

Speaker 3 (51:31):
I think at the start I did really like him
because I could see like how intoxicating it would be
and to feel like, you know, you've got your people
and this nice, fun lifestyle. I think when he started
to go through that downfall of being obsessed with it

(51:53):
and putting it above everything else, that's you know, when
I was I felt like he'd become a bit of
a monster, and I didn't like him at the end.
I felt like it was like too obsessive, like when
is enough enough? And also in my mind, I was like, dude,
stop gambling, have some savings. You'd have a nice little

(52:13):
nest egg. You'd just honestly, you wouldn't have to do
all this, like Poorie, I guarantee you, Paulie, he's fine.
He's been investing. And then they were like when he
got out of prison and he was like, where's the
coke or whatever? That's sixty grand And in the background
there's this dressing table covered in gold jewelry, and I
was like, you're fine, you just sell some of that.

(52:35):
You're going to be absolutely a okay, dude, there's just
invest and stop renovating this house. You're renovating your house
every two weeks, apparently because you got this rock wall
that opens like the Mistress's apartment was absolutely the height
of beautiful decorp I was like, honestly, just you've been

(52:57):
spending frivolously and I know that that's what you want,
but in in a few nice statement pieces that will
last year life and then you're fine.

Speaker 5 (53:07):
The rock war that opened was special.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
I mean, yeah, that was.

Speaker 5 (53:11):
That was futuristic.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
That he I loved his performance, and you know, I'm
somebody who basically what I love about watching movies is
I kind of you can root for people who you
wouldn't usually root for in real life, you know, like,
you know, I know Henry's a bad guy. You know,
you watched Chopper and you kind of you root for
Chopper even though you realize that he kills people, and

(53:35):
you know, but that's what movies can do. By giving
us an insight into somebody's life and finding ways for
us to have empathy with people we would normally not
have empathy for, you can kind of end up cheering
for the bad guys. That's why sometimes the movies we
chief for the bad guys, and sometimes we chief it

(53:56):
like you know, the criminals, and sometimes we chief of
the cops, depending on where the lenses and whose point
of view we're actually following this story from. I think,
really lot is amazing in this movie. But somebody who
gives this movie a whole bunch of energy and I
think a deeper meaning is Lorraine Bracco, who plays Karen.
I mean, that is a fascinating character. She absolutely kills it.

(54:21):
If you watch a Sopranos, you'll know she is also
you know, she's doctor Melfi in the Sopranos. She is
just brilliant, And I know she was paranoid during the
making of this film. I think she said the reporters
that she knew she had to make every scene count
because she thought, you know, being a woman in this
kind of male driven mafia kind of film, it would

(54:44):
be easy potentially for scorsesea to take her out of
the film and just have her as you know, he
got married early and then that kind of and whatever
happened after that, whatever happened.

Speaker 5 (54:56):
But she made.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
It impossible for Martin scorsesey to to take her out
of this film because she's incredible.

Speaker 5 (55:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
No, I really loved her. I thought that, I know,
like I really empathized with her character. Like I felt
like coming into it not knowing really about mob life
or whatever, like she just saw similar Like she I
felt like she started with the same perspective as Henry,
Like it's sort of like, oh wow, look, these people

(55:25):
sort of look after you, and you get the best
things and you get this special treatment that maybe she
hasn't had in her life before. Being she just seemed
like a suburban lady, and then to watch her downfall
as well was sort of like, oh, yeah, if this
is the thing that you love. I just really thought
she was really excellent at doing it. And I think

(55:48):
at the end seeing her fully frazzled and coped out
too was like an interesting like she fully was like
I will commit to you no matter what, even if
that means I will scent with you.

Speaker 5 (56:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
It was a really wonderfully complicated character in that she
didn't make always the right choice. In fact, she makes
a series of wrong choices.

Speaker 5 (56:11):
You know.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
She says when he handed me the gun, her girlfriends
would have said, get what he'd get away from this guy.

Speaker 5 (56:18):
But I was turned on by this, you know.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
And she goes down his path and marries him, and
instantly we know it's a bad marriage. I think they
have the ceremony in the next I don't think it's
necessarily the next.

Speaker 5 (56:30):
Day, you know, but it's a time lapse.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
But the next scene we see is Henry come home
drunk and you know, and late, and they're waiting up
for him with her parents, and he ends up just
walking away and laughing because he's mother in laways is
having a go at him. So we know that there
was no real honeymoon period. The honeymoon period happened before
the marriage potentially, But yeah, she makes he his you know,

(56:55):
you think she's going to leave him, and she doesn't,
but you certainly feel that she's trapped. What's kind of
sad about the character in a way, and in a
kind of a beautiful, kind of sematic way, is that
is that you see her with all the balls at
that start when she kind of takes him on in
the street in front of all the all the gangsters,
you know, all the mafia guys, and she calls him

(57:18):
out and then he kind of smiles at her, and
all of a sudden, she's like, well, we'll see, we'll see.
You know, she's ballsy, but she's also she can be
emotional as well, because you know, when he stands her up,
she's crying at the table, and so you never quite
sure which way. And there are times when she really
demonstrates that ballsiness and that courage, and there's other times

(57:39):
where she maybe takes an easier way out, or even
when he wakes up in the gun's directed you know,
at his head, which is a great shot and the
powerful moment, and you know, does she pulled the trigger?
But she can't pull the trigger because she she does
actually despite everything and despot all her best, probably much

(58:01):
of the fiber of her being telling her and a
lot of her friends and know that her parents telling
her this is no good for you, she can't.

Speaker 5 (58:08):
She's strapped.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
Yeah, I I it was that scene because I feel
like it's such a hard scene to watch because I
felt like she was trying to recapture that sort of
like essence of being like angry at him. But then
because she at the start she could go off at
him because she didn't have anything to lose, but now
she does have stuff to lose, so she can never

(58:29):
fully just completely unleash on him in the same way
because she does want something from him. But then I
was also like, Okay, when Janice is visiting him in
prison and he's going to be in there for four years,
that's your perfect opportunity to go. You're losing everything and
he's showed that he's not going to look after you

(58:50):
in the way you want to be looked after. Completely,
get out of there. Well you got this time, Yeah,
you can go into I mean, I know it's like,
don't rat but go into witness tection lady. Seriously, I
don't know it.

Speaker 5 (59:03):
Just you can find another house with a rock wall
that you know.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
Yeah, I got to stop judging the characters and say
because I do like the movie, but and the whole
time and this is the whole thing with movies with
me is I I just want everybody to have a
nice time and make the right decision. And then I
realized that that's not a movie that people want to watch.
But I just go, you know, this will be easier
for you if you just communicated and then you left

(59:30):
or whatever. But that's not a good movie.

Speaker 5 (59:31):
That is, yeah, Bridge.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
My wife often says that she just what, you know,
when don't they do this? Or what do they you know,
why did they choose to do that? And I'm like, well,
because it's a movie and you need at least ninety minutes,
and you're what you're proposing cuts it down to seven minutes,
and that's too short.

Speaker 3 (59:51):
I do think people would enjoy that though. As a child,
that was my dream to just have a movie with
none of the emotional arcs because I didn't want to
feel them, like in the Lying when with faster died.
I was like, this would be a great movie if
it was just them in the jungle to mon and
Pomba and him singing on logs like I don't want
to have the dad dying. I just want to have
fun in the bush.

Speaker 5 (01:00:14):
I do love.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
We kind of skipped over it a little bit, but
it does obviously there's a little bit of a time
linear thing, a nonlinear thing going on with the we join.
We go back to the start of the movie, which
we you know, which is the bang on the boot
as a way of starting that movie, which goes into
the voiceover and then coming back to it, did you

(01:00:36):
love Did you love that sequence?

Speaker 5 (01:00:38):
Something you could see like.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
Tarantino in that kind of moment the bang on the boot,
and then you know.

Speaker 5 (01:00:45):
That, what's that? Did I hit something? I don't know?

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
There's something kind of particularly when you know what's going
to happen. There's something quite amusing about it's just showing
gangster's these good fellows, mobs is whatever we want to
call them as in moments of humanity in a way
like when I say humanity, like they're being real people,
like we kind of The Godfather is you know, my
favorite films, and they are done in a very different way.

(01:01:11):
You're not seeing as much of those them responding to
They respond to moments in a kind of classical, kind
of almost a knowing way, where this is then these
guys just hanging out, you know, this is like there's
no scenes in The Godfather where Michael's just hanging out

(01:01:32):
and then and they're chatting about pop culture or you know,
and it's almost sign Feldian in a way for me
to see these guys reacted to banging on the boot
knowing and even that you know that they go from
having dinner, you know, they they go to the mum's house,
Tommy's mum's house, and they sit down for a dinner

(01:01:53):
with the guy in the boot, Tommy's mum played by
Katherine Scorsese. Mind you, Martin's real life, but the conversations
they're having, she tells me a little joke and shows
them a painting, and and what do you think of
those kind of sequences.

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
I really liked it because I liked at the start. Yeah,
like it's like, you start with this thing, so you've
got to have something to warrant the six minutes of
backstory that you're going to get as the next thing.
So I really liked that, like reasoning of like how
did he get there? And then I liked when seeing it,
it was so comedic that evening, like that evening is

(01:02:35):
an evening. You couldn't imagine him coming into the bar
making the shoe shining joke, him Leaven coming back killing him,
then them having to go dispose of this body, but
in the meantime going to get the shovel from the
grandma from the mom's house, and then her doing like
and I think that a mum would do, which is

(01:02:56):
like I haven't seen you in ages, Let's have a
three am full dinner with the boys. Come on in
the hospitality of it, like yeah, the way you try
with a mum or nana to just be like I
gotta come and go, and then I don't know. We
with my nana, we're like, okay, we need to go
in half an hour, so we better start leaving now

(01:03:16):
because she's going to need to take us to go
over to the thing to check the geese and then
go check pick out handtawels that we want to take
with us. And it is that nightmare of that the
blood trying to make up an excuse that doesn't make
any sense, but she doesn't care. She knows he's in
the mob.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
Yeah, but I guess that's what I'm saying in a
way that these moments of real life that they don't
like when Rayleiotto or Henry Hill is trying to do
this last little kind of scheme of his at the
end where the helicopters, and that he's still worried about
the pasta sauce, you know, and he's still there's the

(01:04:00):
fact that they have to go to the mother's house
to get the shovel, like that is like some practical
stuff that needs to happen for them to carry out
their jobs. Where there's a version of this film where
they have the shovel of course in the back of
the car, and that I don't need it, but obviously
it Scorsese wants to wants to have them, you know,
have this meeting with with the with the mum that,

(01:04:23):
like I said, doesn't need to happen, but it gives them,
it makes them more humane and also shows that Jimmy
and Tommy are getting I've gotten over this far quicker
than Henry, because Henry is quite quiet in that in
that dinner, the mother kind of comments on that, and
they're they're laughing and joking about the fact that the
guy in the picture looks like the guy they've murdered,

(01:04:44):
joking in front of the mother, who you know, they're
not telling that there's a guy in the boot.

Speaker 5 (01:04:49):
She's unaware.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
Apparently Scorsese actually didn't tell his mother that actually that
was happening, so she was unaware that the part of
this scene was that the fact that they were there
whilst there was a body in the boot, which is
I think is a nice touch.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
That is funny. I mean, I do like that. It's
sort of like, I guess, like I haven't watched The
Godfather or The Sopranos yet I got to get onto those.
But I liked that it was a juxtaposition between Paulie,
who's maybe moved into that next phase of his life
where he's more calm and sensible and thinks things through,

(01:05:25):
and these guys are just stuck in that puberty sort
of insanity. I think it showed that they were probably
never going to be Tommy was never going to be
a made man. He's just not like he's not able
to grow up. And I think the rest of them.
It feels like this posse of people who can't grow
up past that sort of like flashy stage of life.

(01:05:46):
And that's also why they're still having these chats with
their moms and stuff. Because they don't have a shovel
of their own at their own house. They're never gonna
grow up. I did enjoy that for that reason. It
was just like, Okay, so wait, these I don't know
what age they are at this point, because at no
point am I aware of what age they're supposed to be,

(01:06:06):
because they look a decade older slash. I don't know
how old Daniro is supposed to be at the end,
but he looks the same, just with white hair, and
so yeah, I just feel like they're stuck forever. And
maybe I felt like Daniro was the one who he
felt like he was growing up at a certain point
towards the end. But then I also don't know, because

(01:06:26):
I felt like they separated them and maybe that is
what makes you grow up, when you have to separate
from your friends or something to maybe poorly used to
have a best friend, but I was just interested by
that separation that comes from there. Or maybe Tommy was
holding them together. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
Yeah, it's just because DeNiro, Jimmy Conway. He kind of
feels like every time I watch good Fellers, and I
would have seen it maybe ten times now, every time
I watch it, I do I do kind of forget
that Jimmy actually is as bad as Tommy, Like I
always kind of think of him as the arm around
Henry at the start of the film saying you know,

(01:07:02):
you know, well done, you know you did the right thing,
and you're part of the family now, and ushering him
into the family that seem we spoke about earlier. But he,
you know, he basically is the one who kind of
has the idea I can just bump off all these friends,
all these family members who are surrounded with this is

(01:07:24):
a great shot, and this is you know, Martin Scorsese
in this film does a lot of telling and showing
through the voiceover, but there's a great shot of de
Niro at the bar with this look on his face
where the idea is coming to him that, ah, if
I get rid of everybody involved in this heist, then
I'm going to I won't need to work another day

(01:07:46):
in my life like this. It's just a beautiful shot
of him and that thought coming across his face. That
is just it's amazing. And and and that's when all
these sloppy decisions, you know, even as far as Henry
taking on a mistress and then taking on another mistress
on top of that, you know, of getting into the
dealing with the drugs, which is a big kind of

(01:08:08):
thing in mafia films. That it comes up in The
Godfather and I'm sure the Sopranos as well, where it's
like drugs are a bit of a no no. And
one of the key things I think to think about
with anything to do with mafia as far as Godfather,
Sopranos and good Fellows is there's a one of the
things I think we admire about them is that they

(01:08:29):
do have a code of honor, Like there's there's certain
things they live by, and I think that's that's attractive
to our for characters in movies to have. Now, of
course they portray those ethics and values to the detriment
of almost everyone, but they do. And at the start

(01:08:51):
they say, don't write on your friends and keep your
mouth shut and and but it is about family. When
The Godfather came out, there was a big uproar from
the you know, Italian community, and it's massive and it's
done really you can if you see the offer on
Paramount Plast. It's explored really well in there. And what
the producer kept on saying was, this is not just

(01:09:13):
a mafia film. It's a film about family. And that's
one of the key components of The Godfather. It is
about family, and I think Goodfellas has it in there
as well, which makes it all the more powerful when
they start turning on each other.

Speaker 5 (01:09:26):
These people, you know, you go back and watch.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
It again and you see they're all friends and they're
making each other laugh and they feel comfortable around each other.
But just like that, they could turn on each other
and all of a sudden because you know, Old Stacks
doesn't you know, it, goes to his girlfriend's house and
doesn't get rid of the truck. He's you know, he's
taken out and he's murdered. You know, you have these

(01:09:48):
guys who have strung up on meat hooks, you know,
all of a sudden because they're because Jimmy Conway has decided,
you know, it's time to cut some tires.

Speaker 3 (01:09:57):
That was something that I was confused by, was if
these are people that you have loved. Surely, even if
you're going to kill them, you kill them in a
way that's not crazy grotesque, absolutely nightmarish. Like I just go, like,
come on, hanging them up on a meat hook? Like
what about just a yeah, just a the way Tommy

(01:10:19):
dies a little bit of a gun to the back
of the head so he doesn't see it coming then
in a nice little casket. You don't have to Absolutely no,
hanging them up on a meat hook. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
I mean, there is, there is a tradition that you
in these films, and you know, I'm not sure if
it's reflecting life or life reflecting up that you make
a statement. But that's often when somebody has done something
horribly wrong. The only thing I could think of a
character who gets hang up in the meat hook is

(01:10:55):
that he bought his wife a mink coat and they're
told not to show off the money. You know, don't
spend don't spend any money soon, you know, anytime soon.
Just live quietly. And then somebody rocks up in a
pink Cadillac, so he gets bumped. Yeah, and then Paul Murray,
who the weik guy, who it's his idea. He's personally

(01:11:17):
brought this idea to the plan and he just wants
his money as all he wants. He just wants to
be paid, and he gets bumped. Yeah, it's it's it's
a good point.

Speaker 5 (01:11:27):
I think.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
If you're going to kill your friends, to do it humanly. Yeah,
that's your point.

Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
If I was going to kill any of my friends,
I would I would do it humanly. And I do
have to stop. I just got to start accepting the
plot because I do really enjoy it. It is just
I want to create a world where the mobsters do
right by their families, which is if they did that
right the whole thing. I mean, I don't know what

(01:11:51):
it would have happened. It seems like they probably would
have had a downfall or something at some point, but Poorly,
Poorly didn't. Polly did his time. Now he just has
a beautiful family dinner and he's the only one alive
at the end. Really, Oh well, I guess the others
are alive, but he's the one who's living a life
I guess seemingly worth living a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
Yes, I could tell you a little true story fact
about PAULI. When Henry Hill was in jail. He he meant,
and Karen had an affair for Karen, good for Karen,
good for Karen, good for Karen, just owning the situation.

(01:12:32):
And you said you almost I mean to bring it
up earlier when you said, Karen, he's in jail for
four years, get on with living your life. Yeah, And
well she got on with living your life a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:12:42):
Why didn't Paulie put him up in a place where
they didn't have all have to sleep in the same room.

Speaker 5 (01:12:51):
Polly liked the heart his wealth. He wasn't driving around
in the pink Cadillac.

Speaker 3 (01:12:55):
That's true. I don't understand that it is a weird
thing to show off. How long is a mink coat
gonna last?

Speaker 7 (01:13:02):
For?

Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
Like it's white, it doesn't seem it seems like two.
I mean, I don't know what state they're in. I
just guess New York because that's just what I feel
like you always see in the films. But I don't
know if they're in New York or not. So I
guess it's cold, but I don't know how thick of it.
How many months of the year are you going to
wear a seven thousand dollars jacket or however much it costs.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
Yeah, and you're wearing it often in a city that
in the season, you're wearing it where it snows.

Speaker 3 (01:13:32):
You know that's going to get wet. How long is
that going to take the dry out?

Speaker 5 (01:13:37):
Yeah? Just come on, guys, think about it. Please, please.

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
What do you think when Tommy got knocked off? Were
you expecting that? Was that? It's done really well? He
gets ushered in by two gents. One of them the
small agent, is again a parent of Martin Scorsese charl
scor Sacy. And what I love about the way it's

(01:14:03):
done is you get this little Tommy realizes just when
it's too late. You actually hear him say oh no,
almost as the bullet goes through his head.

Speaker 3 (01:14:13):
Yeah, I didn't hear that bit. So it's cool to
know that because I feel like I was happy that
he got I didn't expect it because it sort of
was like he's being a made man like that sort
of just like came in that day in my mind,
like I didn't know that that was going to happen,
or when it was gonna happen, or what was going
on with that. And yeah, when he was going to

(01:14:36):
do it, I was like, oh, that's interesting that they
would allow that, just because he seems like such a liability.
I didn't even connect at the time that it was
to do like it was because of the killing of
the guy who called him a shoeshine. I just thought
they were like, this dude's absolutely off the rails, nuts,
so we can't allow him a seat at the table.

(01:14:58):
Sort of.

Speaker 5 (01:14:58):
Well, I do wonder.

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
I mean, it's certainly because of the killing of Billy Bats,
but I do wonder. And we don't see the discussions
that took place, because obviously that would have ruined the surprise.
But I do wonder if it was not the killing
of Billy Bats in isolation, it was this guy's been
getting loose. We don't trust him anymore. I mean, he

(01:15:22):
killed one of their own. He killed Yeah, he killed
a you know what, maybe a sixteen year old kid.

Speaker 3 (01:15:26):
Yeah, I feel like that's a no note.

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
Yeah, I'm surprised you didn't get bumped off of that.
But you know, this is what the code of honor
comes in, and you know, we'll probably live by a
different code of honor. I suspect Dannielle, but yeah, I mean,
if Spider wasn't a made man, So I guess you
know it holds bigger weight, heavier weight when you kill

(01:15:49):
a made man. But yeah, I agree that. I think
there was probably more to it than just Billy Bats,
even though that was probably the.

Speaker 5 (01:15:58):
Thing the catalyst.

Speaker 3 (01:16:00):
Yeah, because I was not sure. I was like, Oh,
how did they know that he killed Billy Bass? And
why is he called Billy Bass? Has he got a
big mouth or something?

Speaker 5 (01:16:09):
I think it's Billy Bats.

Speaker 3 (01:16:10):
Oh, okay, I thought, because Billy Bass is the name
of the talking fish. I was confused if it was
like a nickname for that.

Speaker 5 (01:16:17):
You waited for the bracket in the song.

Speaker 3 (01:16:18):
Yeah, I was confused the whole time. Why his nickname
was that Billy Bats? Okay, that makes far more sense
to me. Now.

Speaker 1 (01:16:28):
Were you happy when they got into a witness relocation that, Yeah,
they made the call to testify, they meet with the
US attorney actually played by the US attorney who actually
spoke a guy called Edward McDonald. He actually plays himself
that in that moment and reliving the conversations he had

(01:16:50):
with the Hills, And I got to say that in
a nice little performance.

Speaker 5 (01:16:54):
But what do you think? Were you happy enough that
they relocated.

Speaker 3 (01:16:58):
Yeah, I was happy that they relocated. I didn't and
DeNiro's character to get the win for deciding to kill
off everybody, because it doesn't seem like that's how you
run business. You can't just kill off everybody because who's
ever gonna work with you ever? Again? You got to
start from the ground up again if you ever want
to do it, and then what you got to target
on the back for the rest of your life for

(01:17:18):
killing everybody, it's an insane move to do. Yeah, witness protection,
you can't trust that man.

Speaker 5 (01:17:24):
You're absolutely right.

Speaker 1 (01:17:24):
It was an insane move by Jimmy like to think
it could get away with that many kills.

Speaker 3 (01:17:31):
And nobody would trace it back to him.

Speaker 1 (01:17:34):
Yeah, yeah, because you you know enough people to know
and that this the Thunsa heist took place was actually
a real heist. I think they took six million. Yeah,
they wouldn't get back to him. It's actually it's actually
a really good point that it's actually insanity that he
thought he could get away of that.

Speaker 7 (01:17:52):
Well.

Speaker 3 (01:17:52):
Yeah, because I mean, if you've got everybody who's working
beneath you is probably also Italian, it seems like that's
the way it sort of works a bit or like
part Italian. Then they're also going to be connected to
the other families from the other mob groups, like there's
going to be a cross mingling area with that stuff.
How how did he think that that was a good idea?

(01:18:16):
Was he going to go offshore? I don't understand. I
genuinely don't understand how Because this is a real story.
Which is the thing that's confusing to me is if
it was like in a film world where it was
purely fake characters making these decisions, I would be like,
this is terrible plotting this. People would think this through.

(01:18:37):
This is not how it would work. But because it's
a real story, like it's more real because people are
insane and make horrible decisions all the times and things
you go, nobody would do that because it's psycho and
he's doing a psycho move. It makes no sense. I
can't believe he's the one who seems like he's the
ringleader of the three and the fact that none of

(01:18:58):
them questioned it because he's like sort of the cool one,
almost like ralely Otto. It seems like he's like a
bit of a fangirl of the mob mafia lifestyle. Tommy
is this kind of duebo who is trying to prove
himself constantly and he's the only one who seems self assured.
But he's absolutely a nightmare. You can't make that decision,

(01:19:22):
that's psycho, that that was a real decision that a
real person made, and thought that's the reason apparently why
in my mind, this is the reason why in two
thousand they were like, we got to let some other
non one hundred percent Italian people in because Robert DeNiro
killed the rest.

Speaker 1 (01:19:40):
I think it's a very good point, Like I can
imagine if like I mean, I've got no issues with
the way it plays out as a movie. But you're
right as like, did he have a plan to go
to Tahiti or like the live on an island for
the rest of his life, like an escape plan an
exit strategy?

Speaker 5 (01:19:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
Or did he think he to kill four or five
of the family and as an unmade man, Yeah, and
get away with it.

Speaker 5 (01:20:08):
It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:20:10):
And also why didn't he then just not kill them,
take all the money and get on a plane, come
to Darwin and go into hiding. They never would have
found him.

Speaker 1 (01:20:22):
Yeah, that's a bloody good point. And Scor says he
may have missed something that he could have. But like
I said, it's a true story, and I don't know
the story well enough to know where there's been some
departing of truth and some creative license taken. But it's fascinating.
I've got some fun facts for you. Speaking of Robert

(01:20:44):
de Niro, he insisted on them using real money because
he didn't like the way the fake money felt in
his hands. Obviously, Robert DeNiro takes he's acting very seriously, Danielle,
I'm sure. Well, it's funny you say that because nobody
was allowed to leave set until the money was returned

(01:21:07):
and counted after each take, or at least after each
scene was finished with.

Speaker 3 (01:21:12):
That is a nightmare.

Speaker 1 (01:21:13):
I mean, I've heard some stories about you on the
set of Gold Diggers, Danny Elder.

Speaker 5 (01:21:18):
Is it true that you requested real gold?

Speaker 3 (01:21:21):
Oh? Yeah, there was. There's some nuggets lying around my
house now big time.

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
The nero also called apparently Henry Hill like seven or
eight times a day to ask questions like how you know,
and even if he wasn't playing Henry Hill, but he
was asking about, you know, as supposed of being you know,
a part of the mafia or a gangster, how he
would hold a cigarette, how he would smoke, how he
would even like poor ketchup ketchup was one of his questions. Apparently,

(01:21:53):
so takes his acting very seriously. Does missing DeNiro?

Speaker 3 (01:21:57):
Oh okay, that would have fed that Henry Hill guy's
ego like nothing else.

Speaker 1 (01:22:02):
I know, Like you're right, like you think a lot
of people will go oh eventually, oh bloody, how dinner
is calling again? I'm not going to answer this one,
but I get the impression of Henry Hill loved every
second of that, and yeah, you're right, Fetti's ego.

Speaker 3 (01:22:15):
I've got to look up what the real Henry Hill
looks like and what all these real people look like,
because it does seem like, you know, they're very handsome,
put together people in this film. But I'm getting like
a Tommy Wiseou vibe from him, a little bit like
that's sort of like, yes, I'm very famous, Like he'd
put a billboard up of his own face whilst he
was in witness protection or something, just to keep the

(01:22:36):
fame going.

Speaker 1 (01:22:38):
Yeah, the Tommy Wazoo. I like that comparison. Rayleiot, his
mum sadly died a cancer during the filming of good Fellers,
and yeah, he apparently used that anger, particularly the pistol
whip scene of the neighbor who I don't know about you, Daniel,

(01:22:58):
I kind of enjoyed because he was an asshole, that
guy and set up very economically as being a bit
of a jerk and be a bit of an asshole,
and I kind of, I don't know, for some reason,
I quite enjoyed that seemed very extremely violent, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:23:14):
And I'm not sure how they as a stunt.

Speaker 1 (01:23:16):
I'm impressed with it as well, because you actually got
to see the blood coming on his face.

Speaker 3 (01:23:22):
Stunt training you've done, Peter Hellier, but I've done about
four hours of stunt training.

Speaker 5 (01:23:27):
Here we go and some insightful it's.

Speaker 3 (01:23:29):
All about camera angles and the way you hit using
the camera angles. Well that's what we were taught when
I was doing my four to six hours of stunt training.
But now I do watch films and I can sort
of like some Donet, I can't remember a movie what
we watched recently, and I was just laughing at the
stunt because it just seemed like so much like it's

(01:23:51):
like a lot of like pushing and using the other
person's weight on you. And now I find watching some
stunts hard to watch because you can just see that
at no point is anybody actually making real contact. They
just sort of like pushing and pulling each other in
weird ways. But that one, yeah, I was. I loved it.

Speaker 5 (01:24:12):
Sometimes the small stunts always get me.

Speaker 1 (01:24:14):
As we spoke about Chinatown with Limo recently, and there's
a bit where Jack Nicholson gets his nose like nostril
slit and blood splitts up, and.

Speaker 5 (01:24:22):
It's just like, how did they do that?

Speaker 1 (01:24:24):
Like it's it's a tiny stunt as supposed to a
big kind of dramatic car crash kind of stunts that
I'm more impressed with the little stuff. Murray's Whig commercial,
By the way, I love this story. It's my favorite
story out of this movie. Martin Scorsese saw like a
cheap kind of ad late night, was watching TV for

(01:24:45):
a window replacement company, and he contacted the company and
spoke to the guy who actually ran the company and
was a spokesperson for his own company, a guy called
Stephen R. Packer, and he got him to write, edit
and shoot that ad that we see within Goodfellows. So

(01:25:06):
this guy who runs a window replacement has basically a
little short film in the middle of Good Fellows.

Speaker 3 (01:25:11):
That's so great, that's that's real fun Like, he thought
that his ads were so funny and silly, so he
made him do one I love that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:20):
It's so good, and another quick one. My Blue Heaven
was also Nora Efron wrote a movie called My Blue Heaven,
a comedy about a guy who goes into witness relocation,
sawing Steve Martin. Nora Efron, married to Nicholas Peleggi, often
would overhear conversations and sometimes answer the phone when Henry
Hill would call, have these conversations with him, so she

(01:25:41):
starts writing My Blue Heaven, you know, based on some
of his stories. So My Blue Heaven, weirdly is a
kind of sequel to.

Speaker 3 (01:25:50):
Good Fellows, if you definitely want to watch that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:54):
And Joe Pesky won the Oscar the sixth shortest Oscar
acceptance speech. He said, it's my privilege, thank you. That
was his speech in total, the sixth shortest Oscar speech.

Speaker 5 (01:26:05):
And there we go, and.

Speaker 1 (01:26:08):
We do have to go wrap up, but I just
want to also point out you may not have got it,
but when the door slams at the end, which only
got kind of recently.

Speaker 5 (01:26:17):
It's a sound of a jail door, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:26:19):
When we see him in Winnessy location, living in almost
the Truman Show kind of world, he shuts his door
and it is it's a sound of a jail door.

Speaker 5 (01:26:29):
Kind of slamming.

Speaker 1 (01:26:30):
That's cool, Yeah, very cool, Danny hal Walker. This podcast
comes with homework. You have absolutely excelled. I do appreciate it.
You are so busy at the moment. We look forward
to more things from you, no doubt. And you stand
up tour in two thousand and twenty three. He's a
twenty three this year or twenty four whatever next year is,

(01:26:51):
next year twenty four, I think twenty four forgot a
year it was. And congratulations on gold Diggers, Congratulations on
winning Task Marts Australia seeds in one and thanks for
joining us on you ain't.

Speaker 3 (01:27:03):
Say nothing yet, No worry SANX for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:27:14):
That was Danielle Walker and good fellas love that give
on our speak pipe throughout our pages and you can
also give on to us at Yasney Podcast at gmail
dot com.

Speaker 5 (01:27:26):
Thanks everyone for listening. We're gonna keep this.

Speaker 1 (01:27:28):
One short because I have to let somebody else into
the studio. But thanks to everyone listening to the show,
and we'll see you next week.

Speaker 5 (01:27:36):
Thanks for listening to you.

Speaker 1 (01:27:37):
Ain't say nothing yet until then, be kind

Speaker 5 (01:27:50):
And so we leave old Pete save fan Soult and
to our friends of the radio audience, we've been a
pleasant good name.

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