November 19, 2024 • 31 mins
Vivek Ramaswamy, who will be working with Elon Musk at the Department of Government Efficiency, joins to discuss how he and Elon plan to make changes and reduce America’s absurd debt level.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thank you, Scott Shannon, Hour two Sean Hannity Show, eight
hundred and ninety four one, Shawn, our number if you
want to be a part of the program. I've been
saying that this country overwhelmingly voted for dramatic change in Washington,
and for all those conservatives out there, and that would
even include establishment conservatives, they've given lip service to the
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idea of cutting ways, fraud, abuse, etc. Viveg Ramaswami, who
along with Elon Musk, is going to be heading up
the Department of Government Efficiency, welcome back to the program, sir,
And you know, conservatives have given lip service to this
idea of ending waste, fraud, abuse, and cutting the bloated
bureaucracy in Washington. I have hope, really for the first
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time of my adult life, that this is serious. You
mean it, it's real, and it's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yes, Sean, that's exactly right. Because politicians, frankly, even Republicans,
have paid lip service to this subjective for a long time.
Very little has ever happened. And that's why we're doing
things differently. First of all, we've got a president who
is himself an outsider, who is elected with a decisive mandate.
With both Houses of Congress under Republican control and a
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six to three majority on the Supreme Court of conservative justices.
The last time those stars have aligned is basically never
in modern American history. So it's a rare moment. And
we're also doing things differently. Where Elon and I were
not politicians, we are outsiders. We're entrepreneurs. We're not joining
the government. We're outside volunteers because we've got to preserve
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that creativity and latitude that when you join the government
to I.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Mean, you're going to be doing this for free.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I'm just asking yes, Yes, Elon and I are not
in this for the money. We're in this for saving
the country.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
And Tom, well, you've.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Been pretty successful. I got to tip my hat to you.
So you are a successful business guy.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah. Look, I've built multi billion dollar businesses. I've a
self made billionaire before the age of forty, and I've
got two kids who I'm worried are going to go
up in a country where they can't live that American
dream unless we actually pass it on. And the federal
bureaucracy is I think the number one obstacle Shaan standing
in the way it is the growth of this nanny
state in the United States of America and the administrative
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bureaucracy required to administer it. It's anti American. It's also
anti constitutional because right now, the people we elect to
run the government, they're not even the ones who are
actually running the government. It's the unelected bureaucrats who are
making most policies. And that is a betrayal of democracy
and what our republic is supposed to be about. And
so this project is as much about efficiency and saving dollars,
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which is of course important. It's as much about that
as it is restoring self governance in America. And yes,
I am confident we're going to do both those things.
And one of the things that's also different, Sean is
most government programs, I think Reagan said it is the
closest thing to eternal life, is a new government program.
Most government programs never die, they never go away. With DOGE,
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we're doing it differently. We have set an expiration date
for DOGE of July fourth, twenty twenty six. How do
we pick that? Well, first of all, we wanted to
get this done in a year and a half. And
the second of all is that sactly the two hundred
and fiftieth birthday of the United States of America, the
two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the Declaration of Independence.
And I can think of no better gift to our
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nation than a smaller government of a size that would
make our founding fathers proud. And so that's what we're
working at breakneck speed to achieve. We're already getting started underway.
And I think that the way I look at it, Sean,
is it's now or never. If we don't get it
done this time, it's not going to happen in America.
But it is going to happen this time because of
the mandate that we've been given by the people of
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this country. Elon and I are excited. We've got getting
our hands dirty all the way easy to talk about this.
The harder part is going to be executing it. But
we're up to the challenge and we know we're going
to face resistance. We're okay with that. We're ready for it.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
It's not just about ending waste, fraud and abuse. It's
also what we're talking about is America returning to its
founding principles, and that would be limited government, greater freedom.
And you've gone into some detail as has Elon, and
that you expect certain agencies to just outright be deleted
and returning other departments to the states where they would
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be better able to handle it. For example, that in education,
I think that should be done on the local level.
But we're talking about the FEC, the SEC. What departments
outright are you talking about that you expect can be deleted?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Look, I think that we're going to get into the
specific details on January twentieth and onward. We're not going
to play our cards too specifically beforehand because we know
the resistance we're going to run into. We also want
to give ourselves the time and latitude, as we're doing
right now, to dig into those details. But what people
can expect is a mass downsizing, not an incremental downsizing,
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a mass downsizing of the fourth branch of government, the
administrative state. The people who work in three letter agencies,
even agencies that aren't deleted, are going to see mass
headcount reductions. They're going to see mass reductions in the
number of regulations that they're enforcing or allowed to enforce, because,
after all, the Supreme Court has told the administrative State
that many of those regulations are unconstitutional. So this is
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about realigning our constitutional republic with our founding principles, actually
following the US Constitution with three branches of government, not four.
And are there going to be some agencies that are
outright eliminated as part of that. Yes, One the President
Trump has talked about openly is the US Department of Education.
You mentioned it as well, But that is an example
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of the kind of agency that need not actually exist
for our future republic to thrive. And that's the approach
that we're taking. Sewan Is. It's not an incremental approach.
I think if you take an incremental approach, that's going
to be set up for failure that's been tried before.
But if you take an actual quantum leap approach, and
I do think that that's why we're approaching this as
entrepreneurs and not politicians. If you take that quantum leap approach,
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fighting success is actually going to be achievable and nothing
it's easy. But I'm saying we're up for the challenge,
and I believe that we're going to do something that
hasn't been done in modern American history because that's what
saving our country requires.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
I think it will include or must include the elimination
of baseline budgeting, which, for those people that may not know,
that would mean the built in increases in every department,
in spending and all throughout government every year without any
reductions at all. Years ago, there was something called the
Penny Plan that would if you cut one penny out
of every dollar and didn't increase spending every year for
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seven years, you would have balanced the budget. That was
put forward by then Congressman Connie Mack, who promises the
President has made, and one is to modernize our military
and get rid of woke and increase recruitment. It scares
me that China and Russia have hypersonic technology and we
do not. I think we're going to have to spend
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a lot of money there preserving and and helping two
departments two promises to the American people. Social Security and
Medicare has to be high on the list. Both of
them are headed towards insolvency. We can't allow that to happen.
That was a promise made and it must be a
promise kept to the American people. I would imagine you
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could reform them, but I do think that you're going
to have to look for other sources of income as well.
I think the greatest opportunity financially that this country has
is the incredible energy resources that have gone untapped. And
if we start providing all the energy needs of Western
Europe alone, this would make America would become the most
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energy dominant country on the face of the earth and
make us an energy wealthy nation. And I think that
could down That could pay down the debt, and I
think it could do a lot of other things, lower taxes,
and everybody could benefit from it.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
You're absolutely right about that, Sean. And actually what stands
in the way of doing that comes back to the
regulatory state. Permitting is far more difficult than to be
opening up a new refinery, far more difficult than it
needs to be, as.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
The last time we opened one forty years ago.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
It's unbelievable, Sean. It's unacceptable in the United States of
America for us to squander the natural resources that God
has given this country for us to not be able
to use them. But if you think about every domain,
you think about healthcare, think about inefficiency, international defense, think
about the ineffectiveness of how we're harnessing our own energy,
it comes back down to the bureaucratic states. And so
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in many ways, this project our Department of Government Efficiency
DOAJ This is I think the epicenter, it's the nerve
center for saving the country. And so the stakes are
high and we're up for the challenge. And I'm grateful
to President Trump for really being pretty creative and out
of the box. This is not something that presidents usually do.
You know, most presidents may at most may set up
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some type of commission that's cutting ribbons and issuing final reports.
This isn't cutting ribbons. This is about cutting cost in
a serious way. It's about cutting bureaucracy in a serious way.
We're going to be doing it on a real time
basis in delivering those recommendations. And so I think that
this is going to be a historic opportunity. It's up
to us to seize it. We're going to have to
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do a good job of explaining this to the American
people along the way, too, shots because you know, are
there going to be some bumps in the road if
you're looking at making cuts that deep, of course, and
I think most people understand that. Most people are taxpayers
who know that their tax dollars are not being spent properly,
and the fact that there's a bureaucracy that's standing in
the way of this country is a major problem. Most
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people get that, but I think we're going to have
to really do a better do a good job of
being able to explain that over the next year and
a half as we make some pretty serious changes.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Well, let me ask this, are you prepared because the
bureaucracy will go to great lengths to protect the bureaucracy
and stop you from instituting what are needed and fundamental
changes to how we approach governing. I mean, you're talking
about a top to bottom, you know, remake of what
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we have come to know as this massive bureaucracy. I'm
fully supportive of it, and you rightly point out conservatives
have a given lip service to it, but when given
the opportunity, they've never taken advantage of it. This is
the opportunity of a lifetime. This maybe the only opportunity
our country ever has.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
I agree with you, which is why we don't really
care about the resistance from the bureaucrats. And we're going
to get a lot of resistance from entrenched interests and
bureaucrats in Washington, DC that doesn't matter to us because
American people are on our side, voters are on our side,
and I think history is on our side. Our country
has thrived without the existence of this massive bureaucracy. That's
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what our founder is envisioned. And I think we owe
it to this country, and we owe it to our history,
and we owe it to posterity to restore the government
that would make George Washington and our founding fathers proud.
One with three branches of government, not four, one without
some bureaucracy standing in the way. One where of congressmen
or senators don't do a good job of making the laws,
you can actually vote them out instead of he's unelected
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bureaucrats who remain permanently highed. That's what this country demands
of us. And so yeah, are we up for the challenges.
There are going to be some resistance, Yes, but we're
ready for it. The people are with us, histories with us,
our constitution is with us, and that's what we're going
to need. And we're confident that that's we're going to
be able to use to see this through.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
We've become very friendly. I've got to know you very well.
I've come to admire you. You're extraordinarily intelligent. And I
don't know Elon Musk on a personal level. I watch
what he does in fascination. I mean, the fact that
our government needs to rely on him to rescue to
these astronauts that are lost in space is insane to me.
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Space X, what he's been able to accomplish there is
pretty amazing, Tesla is pretty amazing. It seems that he's
an engineering genius. What's your relationship like with him? Can
you give us any insight into the type of person
that he is?
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Sure, you know, we've become good friends over the last
year and a half.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
He's one I've.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Admired from afar, but I've really gotten to know him
over the last year and a half during my own
presidential campaign and afterwards. He is somebody who and I
don't say this lightly, Sean, he is somebody who is
really on a different plane. And I've met some of
the smartest people in the world.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Oh, people have said that about me, They said that
I'm lost in space myself. But go ahead, I'm joking.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Well, you know in your own way also, Sean, right,
you're you're you're a genius in being able to communicate
ideas that people need to hear. I think elon Is
is a genius of an engineering variety who is able
to think outside of the constraints that normal people just
accept as the status quo. He has a unique vision
of being able to step outside the status quo and
ask what is possible if you start with a blank slate.
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And so, you know, there aren't that many people as
entrepreneurs who I sort of look up to and believe
that I can, you know, really learn meaningful things from.
Elon Is on that list, is at the top of
that list by far, And I think working with has
already been a pleasure. I think he's somebody who cares
about substance over politics or substance over process. I love
that about him. I've actually already learned a tremendous amount
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from him, even in the short time we've known each
other and have given the shorter time that we've gotten
to work together. But I think that we, you know,
we have a similar vision, we have a similar orientation.
We're entrepreneurs in our heart. We like to create things.
We both dislike politics, but we've chosen to be in
the sport because our country requires it and We both
have kids who we care about growing up in a
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country where they can actually live the American dream that
Elon and I have, and take his story. He came
to this country as an immigrant with nothing and built
himself up to be the most successful capitalist, literally in
world history. And for me, that's really resonant. My parents
came to this country with no money forty years ago.
I've gone on and found multi billion dollar companies and
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you know it, became the youngest person ever to run
for US President as a Republican, And so that's what's
possible in this country. That's a Maria, that's the America
we know in love, and we share a passion for
reviving it. And you know, I think we're going to
make for I think a great team, and we're already
enjoying working together. But the hard work is still ahead
of us, and we're ready for the challenge.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
There's going to be a lot of change under President Trump,
but I think what you and Elan are doing are
the most exciting to me because as a conservative, all
these years I've I've preached about limited government, greater freedom,
ending waste for aud and abuse, and as I said earlier,
this is the first time in my life. I think
it will be accomplished. VIK will be with you every
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step of the way, offering any support we can. My
best to you, my best to Elon, and you know,
getting America back to its true purpose, its constitutional order.
We appreciate you being with.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Us, sir, Thank you, my Matt. Take care.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
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let's get to our busy telephone, shall we. Let's say
hi to Mikey's in Colorado. Mike, how are you glad
you called? Thanks for being with.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Us, Thanks for having me. Sean, I appreciate everything you do.
An r to be honest with you, I would like
you to consider challenging yours pasture and these women who
are refusing to get intimate with their partners or shave
their heads. I think I think we should all be
encouraging them to do so, and by doing so effectively
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remove people like this who can infect their children from
the gene pool. I thank you three time.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
So you want to get you You want these people
removed from the gene pool. You want me to you
want them assist it. You don't want them to procreate?
Is that what you're saying.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
That's exactly right, That's exactly right.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I think I think it's up to them do I
think this is a temporary reaction of most of them.
I don't know their way of somehow rebelling or wanting
to be heard. You know, I don't know when we
went from the land of the Free and the home
of the brave to the land of the snowflake because
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it's so snowflakeish to me, and so woke to me,
and so stupid to me, and on every front. But
in part I don't blame part of them for it.
Let me tell you why they've been indoctrinated into lies.
They have been told that we Conservatives are garbage. They
have been told we're irredeemable deplorables. They've been told where bitter,
angry Americans that cling to God, guns are Bibles and religion.
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They have been told falsehoods. Seniors in this country were
told by Kamala herself that Donald Trump will take away
their Social Security, their medicare. They have been told that
women that would be a national abortion ban if Donald
Trump is elected president again. They were told that he
would limit access to birth control. They were told that
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IVF treatment would go out the window, all of which
is completely false. That he would support Project twenty twenty five,
again completely false. He has no idea what Project twenty
twenty five is. He had no part of Project twenty
twenty five. I have no idea what's in Project twenty
twenty five. And you know, with all the hoopla about it,
I don't even want to know. So in a sense,
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you know, for give them, for they know not what
they do because they've been lied to. And when a
president vice president of this country lies to you on
that level and tells you that if you elect this guy, X, Y,
and Z is gonna happen when it's not true, it does.
It does rile people up, just like they said he
was Stalin, Hitler and Mussolini. Anyway, Mike, you I hear
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what you're saying. But if you know, people don't want
to have sex, if they want to shave their heads,
if they want to, you know, hoard up on abortion pills,
have at it, if they want to divorce their husbands,
it's sad. I wouldn't recommend it over politics, but I
guess the marriage is not that strong to begin with.
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All right, let's go to Tom and New York. Tom,
how are you glad you called hi?
Speaker 6 (19:48):
Sean?
Speaker 4 (19:48):
So?
Speaker 6 (19:48):
I want to make a couple of quick points. First
of all, I own two Henry's thirty eight and a
forty five seventy rifle. Great great firearm, great manufacturer. That's
the first art.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
By the way, aren't they the best? I mean, it's
HENRYUSA dot com. They're an advertiser on the show, and
they have the highest quality old school craftsmanship and combined
with modern technology. And I'm telling you it's such a
great company. And Anthony, the owner is such a great guy.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:17):
I chose the forty five to seventy because it goes
with my sharps eighteen fifty cat saddling in my thirty
eight sub though.
Speaker 7 (20:23):
So that's it.
Speaker 6 (20:24):
So the quote reason why McCall is mister Musk and
a swaby have a great plan. I listened to their plan.
I examine their plan, and that's what I want to hear.
And I think a lot of the American public and
the Conservatives, Republicans, and the Democrats who voted for mister
Trump need to hear these plans. I don't really care
what the Democrats want to do. I don't care what
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they have to say. I don't care if they're crying
on TV. I don't care about shaved heads. A lot
of us this is me an opinion, you don't want
to hear about this stuff. When they're washed up, they're done.
The Americans want to hear the plan what we're going
to do, not to the basic boiler plate. We're gonna drill,
We're gonna do this, We're gonna we we want a plan.
We're always thriving for information. And once we hear the
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plan coming from our elected, duly elected officials, mister Trump,
and I met mister Trump a couple of times, especially
in the Nation's Parade nineteen ninety five on this helicopter
at Floyd Bennett Field. Great great gentleman to talk to
when he was running the Grand Marshall of that ceremony.
But we need the plan, we want the plan. We
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want to hear what the plan in detail, what it's
going to be. And the last thing is, as a
New Yorker you fled to Florida, God bless you. There's
been an uptick in criminal activity with knives, but yet
our governor and the Tish will not call the legislature
back into session to have knife control, knife permits, nice this,
nice that, because it's not a gun. And that's a
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huge problem with a lot of us trying to blame
an an amid object versus the individuals committing the crime.
And I'll thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Listen, I appreciate all your saying. And this is the
problem with the New York and if you know you're
a criminal in New York and you get arrested, they
let you out of jail because they have this idiotic
no bail laws. And then we watched Judge Moreshawn earlier
today and the da Alvin Bragg, who is a he's
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not appointed, it's a political office. And the left wing
in New York loves the fact that he hates Donald
Trump and he's going to ride that, you know, into reelection.
It's pretty insane. Anyway, eight hundred and ninety four one,
Seawn our number if you want to be a part
of the program. Back to our busy phones. As we
say hi to Fred in Illinois, Fred, how are you
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glad you called Hi?
Speaker 7 (22:41):
Sean. I just want to take this opportunity quickly to
say that America needs to extend sincere. Thanks to you
for what you do day in and day out. Dragon
us crush the finished link, because I'll tell you, there
was a lot of times that I didn't think we
were going to make it. So thank you for that, and.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Well, thank you listen. I thank everybody in those audience
for doing their part, because that's the only way it
was going to happen. I'm one voice, one vote. I
tried to get the information out there that everybody needed
and thankfully a lot of people understood what was at
stake in this election.
Speaker 7 (23:15):
Well keep punching, Sean, because we need you. But currently
we're caught up in this euphoria with the victory that
we had, and it's you know, we need to do this.
But I think what America has to realize is the
left never never lets up, and they're they're working in
the background here. And my question to you is, since
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you have your finger on the political pulse, and do
you really think and believe that the Republicans have the
political will and the courage to not only get their
cabinet candidates approved, but to carry out Trump's agenda. I
agree with the last caller, we want to see the plan,
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but the plan. I'm no old football and rest coach,
and the plan doesn't do any good unless you execute it.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
And oh, I mean you just heard viveg Ramaswami. Both
he and Ela Musk are staying outside of the government.
Do I think they will do a good job. Yes,
In the back of my mind, do I worry that
Republicans might react the way they that people in the
Reagan era reacted to the Grace Commission. Yeah, I worry
about that a little bit. I think that the first
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order of business is going to be getting Donald Trump's
appointments through. There's been all this talk that he may
he may go to recess appointments. You know, well, if
we're gonna, you know, whine and this is outrageous, and
Donald Trump is bypassing the Senate and advising consent, et cetera,
et cetera. Well, it's not the first time there have
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been recess appointments. Obama made over thirty of them. Bush
forty three made over one hundred and seventy of them.
Bush forty one used a recess appointment for a Secretary
of State. So that's a lot of a recess appointing
that went on. And anyway, president since George Washington have
made recess appointments. Washington appointed South Carolina Judge John Rutledge
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as the Chief Justice of the of the US during
a congressional recess in seventeen ninety five. If you want
me to go into some of the detail I went
into before. But President Reagan made two hundred and forty
recess appointments. That's an average at thirty a year. President
George H. W. Bush seventy seven recess appointments. That's a
lot of recess appointments. So we'll see what happens. I
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would rather the Republicans in the Senate have a backbone
and understand the mandate that Donald Trump was given here.
But Donald Trump also, you know, he helped a lot
of these candidates get in as well. I'm not sure
Dave McCormick would have made it had Donald Trump not
been on the top of the ticket, for example, in Pennsylvania.
And I think he's going to do a great job.
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I think it certainly helped Bernie Marino, and I think
it helped a lot of other people congressional seats. It
was an eighty percent it was viewed. I think the
betting markets even had about an eighty percent chance that
Democrats would take back the House. That didn't happen. So
this is a historic opportunity. The president won the popular
vote that had not happened since two thousand and four,
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and I think that this is a mandate election. I
think it's the death of legacy media, as we've been discussing.
So you know, it's it's going to be up to
us too. You know, we can't just vote and go
away and not pay attention. I mean, we're going to
have to put pressure on elected officials, congressmen and senators
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to do their job too, and their job is the
Trump agenda right now. Anyway, I do appreciate to call
my friend. Thank you. Eight hundred and nine four one,
Sew you want to be a part of the program,
Let's get back to our busy phones. Eight hundred nine
four one, Shawn our number. If you'd like to join us,
let us hid to Melissa, North Carolina, Melissa, how are
you glad you called?
Speaker 3 (26:59):
I'm doing great show on How are you?
Speaker 1 (27:01):
I'm good? What's going on?
Speaker 7 (27:03):
Well?
Speaker 3 (27:03):
I have a question. So my question is if these
women are like boycotting sex for four years whatever, man,
why are they stop pulling the abortion pill?
Speaker 1 (27:15):
That's a really good question. I don't really know. Maybe
they don't pay attention to news either. Because the Supreme
Court ruled on the widespread availability of the abortion pill,
and they basically codified that into a law. So that
is almost a first trimester pill. It says up to
ten weeks, but so basically the first trimester. Women will
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have access and availability to the abortion pill, which now
represents about sixty five percent of abortions in America.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Right, But if they're not having six I don't think
they need it, honestly, So maybe you need to do
a public service announcement to a runne people how pregnancy happens.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
I don't know if they're not having sex and they're
abstaining from sex. I'm totally pro choice in the and
what people doing their private life. If that's the way
they want to live their life, that's fine with me.
I'm not so sure it's going to go over well
with boyfriends and husbands.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
My mommy, some people don't have the good chance. Gott
gave a billy good.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
But if this is how they want to live their life.
But you'd make a great point. If you're not having sex,
you don't really need to stockpile abortion pills.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
That's what I'm thinking.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
So yeah, I think you're right. Anyway, appreciate the call.
Thank you, Melissa. If you make my day, Let's say hi.
I will stay on the topic with Jeff and Oklahoma. Jeff,
how are you glad you called?
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Great, sir, how are you good?
Speaker 1 (28:37):
What's going on, oh Man.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
I first off, as a homeschool dad in Oklahoma, I
want to say that on election night you called a
lot of nerves that we had when you said you
had never been more confident in anything in your life.
I believe when you were talking about Georgia and North Carolina.
So thank you for calling those nerves at the time.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Well, you know, it's so funny. More people have commented
to me about the comments I made about nine thirty
nine on Fox when I was on with the panel,
and I spoke twice, and once I went over the
numbers and why I thought it was mathematically impossible going
into election day that I said that Kamala had a
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math problem. Joe Biden went into Pennsylvania on election day
in twenty twenty with a one point one million vote lead.
He won by less than one hundred thousand way less
than one hundred thousand. Kamala only went in with a
four hundred thousand vote lead. That was a deficit of
seven hundred thousand votes. I spent the day talking to
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people in heavily democratic areas in Pennsylvania that would be Philly,
that would be Alleganty County, for example, and I knew
that the turnout was nowhere near what would have been
historic and necessary for her to catch up. So I
have great contacts in Georgia. Georgia was baked, it was done.
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Donald Trump was going to win Georgia, he was going
to win North Carolina. I had good sources there. I
knew that he would win Arizona by that point, and
likely Nevada, which he ended up winning. I also knew
that she had the same numbers problem and deficit problem
in Wisconsin based on early voting, because she was forty
forty five percent down from where Joe Biden was in
twenty twenty. And it's amazing when I said that, and
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I said, look, I may be get getting over my skis.
If I turn out to be wrong, you can print
Hannity was wrong, t shirts. But here's how the night's
going to unfold. And I turned out being right because
I've worked the phones all day and that's that's what
I do for a living, and I'm supposed to be right.
If I didn't believe that, I wouldn't have said it.
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And even close friends of mine said they knew it
was over the minute I said what I said, or
else I would not have said it, and they're right.
I'm glad it gave you some piece that night, though,
so I hope you know that it came from a
place of a lot of research and a lot of calling.
I was doing making a lot of calls that day
and night. Anyway, my friend, thank you eight hundred and
ninety four one. Sean, if you want to be part
of the program,
Thank you, Scott Shannon, Hour two Sean Hannity Show, eight
hundred and ninety four one, Shawn, our number if you
want to be a part of the program. I've been
saying that this country overwhelmingly voted for dramatic change in Washington,
and for all those conservatives out there, and that would
even include establishment conservatives, they've given lip service to the
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idea of cutting ways, fraud, abuse, etc. Viveg Ramaswami, who
along with Elon Musk, is going to be heading up
the Department of Government Efficiency, welcome back to the program, sir,
And you know, conservatives have given lip service to this
idea of ending waste, fraud, abuse, and cutting the bloated
bureaucracy in Washington. I have hope, really for the first
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time of my adult life, that this is serious. You
mean it, it's real, and it's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yes, Sean, that's exactly right. Because politicians, frankly, even Republicans,
have paid lip service to this subjective for a long time.
Very little has ever happened. And that's why we're doing
things differently. First of all, we've got a president who
is himself an outsider, who is elected with a decisive mandate.
With both Houses of Congress under Republican control and a
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six to three majority on the Supreme Court of conservative justices.
The last time those stars have aligned is basically never
in modern American history. So it's a rare moment. And
we're also doing things differently. Where Elon and I were
not politicians, we are outsiders. We're entrepreneurs. We're not joining
the government. We're outside volunteers because we've got to preserve
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that creativity and latitude that when you join the government
to I.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Mean, you're going to be doing this for free.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I'm just asking yes, Yes, Elon and I are not
in this for the money. We're in this for saving
the country.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
And Tom, well, you've.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Been pretty successful. I got to tip my hat to you.
So you are a successful business guy.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah. Look, I've built multi billion dollar businesses. I've a
self made billionaire before the age of forty, and I've
got two kids who I'm worried are going to go
up in a country where they can't live that American
dream unless we actually pass it on. And the federal
bureaucracy is I think the number one obstacle Shaan standing
in the way it is the growth of this nanny
state in the United States of America and the administrative
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bureaucracy required to administer it. It's anti American. It's also
anti constitutional because right now, the people we elect to
run the government, they're not even the ones who are
actually running the government. It's the unelected bureaucrats who are
making most policies. And that is a betrayal of democracy
and what our republic is supposed to be about. And
so this project is as much about efficiency and saving dollars,
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which is of course important. It's as much about that
as it is restoring self governance in America. And yes,
I am confident we're going to do both those things.
And one of the things that's also different, Sean is
most government programs, I think Reagan said it is the
closest thing to eternal life, is a new government program.
Most government programs never die, they never go away. With DOGE,
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we're doing it differently. We have set an expiration date
for DOGE of July fourth, twenty twenty six. How do
we pick that? Well, first of all, we wanted to
get this done in a year and a half. And
the second of all is that sactly the two hundred
and fiftieth birthday of the United States of America, the
two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the Declaration of Independence.
And I can think of no better gift to our
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nation than a smaller government of a size that would
make our founding fathers proud. And so that's what we're
working at breakneck speed to achieve. We're already getting started underway.
And I think that the way I look at it, Sean,
is it's now or never. If we don't get it
done this time, it's not going to happen in America.
But it is going to happen this time because of
the mandate that we've been given by the people of
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this country. Elon and I are excited. We've got getting
our hands dirty all the way easy to talk about this.
The harder part is going to be executing it. But
we're up to the challenge and we know we're going
to face resistance. We're okay with that. We're ready for it.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
It's not just about ending waste, fraud and abuse. It's
also what we're talking about is America returning to its
founding principles, and that would be limited government, greater freedom.
And you've gone into some detail as has Elon, and
that you expect certain agencies to just outright be deleted
and returning other departments to the states where they would
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be better able to handle it. For example, that in education,
I think that should be done on the local level.
But we're talking about the FEC, the SEC. What departments
outright are you talking about that you expect can be deleted?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Look, I think that we're going to get into the
specific details on January twentieth and onward. We're not going
to play our cards too specifically beforehand because we know
the resistance we're going to run into. We also want
to give ourselves the time and latitude, as we're doing
right now, to dig into those details. But what people
can expect is a mass downsizing, not an incremental downsizing,
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a mass downsizing of the fourth branch of government, the
administrative state. The people who work in three letter agencies,
even agencies that aren't deleted, are going to see mass
headcount reductions. They're going to see mass reductions in the
number of regulations that they're enforcing or allowed to enforce, because,
after all, the Supreme Court has told the administrative State
that many of those regulations are unconstitutional. So this is
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about realigning our constitutional republic with our founding principles, actually
following the US Constitution with three branches of government, not four.
And are there going to be some agencies that are
outright eliminated as part of that. Yes, One the President
Trump has talked about openly is the US Department of Education.
You mentioned it as well, But that is an example
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of the kind of agency that need not actually exist
for our future republic to thrive. And that's the approach
that we're taking. Sewan Is. It's not an incremental approach.
I think if you take an incremental approach, that's going
to be set up for failure that's been tried before.
But if you take an actual quantum leap approach, and
I do think that that's why we're approaching this as
entrepreneurs and not politicians. If you take that quantum leap approach,
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fighting success is actually going to be achievable and nothing
it's easy. But I'm saying we're up for the challenge,
and I believe that we're going to do something that
hasn't been done in modern American history because that's what
saving our country requires.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
I think it will include or must include the elimination
of baseline budgeting, which, for those people that may not know,
that would mean the built in increases in every department,
in spending and all throughout government every year without any
reductions at all. Years ago, there was something called the
Penny Plan that would if you cut one penny out
of every dollar and didn't increase spending every year for
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seven years, you would have balanced the budget. That was
put forward by then Congressman Connie Mack, who promises the
President has made, and one is to modernize our military
and get rid of woke and increase recruitment. It scares
me that China and Russia have hypersonic technology and we
do not. I think we're going to have to spend
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a lot of money there preserving and and helping two
departments two promises to the American people. Social Security and
Medicare has to be high on the list. Both of
them are headed towards insolvency. We can't allow that to happen.
That was a promise made and it must be a
promise kept to the American people. I would imagine you
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could reform them, but I do think that you're going
to have to look for other sources of income as well.
I think the greatest opportunity financially that this country has
is the incredible energy resources that have gone untapped. And
if we start providing all the energy needs of Western
Europe alone, this would make America would become the most
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energy dominant country on the face of the earth and
make us an energy wealthy nation. And I think that
could down That could pay down the debt, and I
think it could do a lot of other things, lower taxes,
and everybody could benefit from it.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
You're absolutely right about that, Sean. And actually what stands
in the way of doing that comes back to the
regulatory state. Permitting is far more difficult than to be
opening up a new refinery, far more difficult than it
needs to be, as.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
The last time we opened one forty years ago.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
It's unbelievable, Sean. It's unacceptable in the United States of
America for us to squander the natural resources that God
has given this country for us to not be able
to use them. But if you think about every domain,
you think about healthcare, think about inefficiency, international defense, think
about the ineffectiveness of how we're harnessing our own energy,
it comes back down to the bureaucratic states. And so
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in many ways, this project our Department of Government Efficiency
DOAJ This is I think the epicenter, it's the nerve
center for saving the country. And so the stakes are
high and we're up for the challenge. And I'm grateful
to President Trump for really being pretty creative and out
of the box. This is not something that presidents usually do.
You know, most presidents may at most may set up
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some type of commission that's cutting ribbons and issuing final reports.
This isn't cutting ribbons. This is about cutting cost in
a serious way. It's about cutting bureaucracy in a serious way.
We're going to be doing it on a real time
basis in delivering those recommendations. And so I think that
this is going to be a historic opportunity. It's up
to us to seize it. We're going to have to
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do a good job of explaining this to the American
people along the way, too, shots because you know, are
there going to be some bumps in the road if
you're looking at making cuts that deep, of course, and
I think most people understand that. Most people are taxpayers
who know that their tax dollars are not being spent properly,
and the fact that there's a bureaucracy that's standing in
the way of this country is a major problem. Most
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people get that, but I think we're going to have
to really do a better do a good job of
being able to explain that over the next year and
a half as we make some pretty serious changes.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Well, let me ask this, are you prepared because the
bureaucracy will go to great lengths to protect the bureaucracy
and stop you from instituting what are needed and fundamental
changes to how we approach governing. I mean, you're talking
about a top to bottom, you know, remake of what
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we have come to know as this massive bureaucracy. I'm
fully supportive of it, and you rightly point out conservatives
have a given lip service to it, but when given
the opportunity, they've never taken advantage of it. This is
the opportunity of a lifetime. This maybe the only opportunity
our country ever has.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
I agree with you, which is why we don't really
care about the resistance from the bureaucrats. And we're going
to get a lot of resistance from entrenched interests and
bureaucrats in Washington, DC that doesn't matter to us because
American people are on our side, voters are on our side,
and I think history is on our side. Our country
has thrived without the existence of this massive bureaucracy. That's
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what our founder is envisioned. And I think we owe
it to this country, and we owe it to our history,
and we owe it to posterity to restore the government
that would make George Washington and our founding fathers proud.
One with three branches of government, not four, one without
some bureaucracy standing in the way. One where of congressmen
or senators don't do a good job of making the laws,
you can actually vote them out instead of he's unelected
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bureaucrats who remain permanently highed. That's what this country demands
of us. And so yeah, are we up for the challenges.
There are going to be some resistance, Yes, but we're
ready for it. The people are with us, histories with us,
our constitution is with us, and that's what we're going
to need. And we're confident that that's we're going to
be able to use to see this through.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
We've become very friendly. I've got to know you very well.
I've come to admire you. You're extraordinarily intelligent. And I
don't know Elon Musk on a personal level. I watch
what he does in fascination. I mean, the fact that
our government needs to rely on him to rescue to
these astronauts that are lost in space is insane to me.
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Space X, what he's been able to accomplish there is
pretty amazing, Tesla is pretty amazing. It seems that he's
an engineering genius. What's your relationship like with him? Can
you give us any insight into the type of person
that he is?
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Sure, you know, we've become good friends over the last
year and a half.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
He's one I've.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Admired from afar, but I've really gotten to know him
over the last year and a half during my own
presidential campaign and afterwards. He is somebody who and I
don't say this lightly, Sean, he is somebody who is
really on a different plane. And I've met some of
the smartest people in the world.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Oh, people have said that about me, They said that
I'm lost in space myself. But go ahead, I'm joking.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Well, you know in your own way also, Sean, right,
you're you're you're a genius in being able to communicate
ideas that people need to hear. I think elon Is
is a genius of an engineering variety who is able
to think outside of the constraints that normal people just
accept as the status quo. He has a unique vision
of being able to step outside the status quo and
ask what is possible if you start with a blank slate.
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And so, you know, there aren't that many people as
entrepreneurs who I sort of look up to and believe
that I can, you know, really learn meaningful things from.
Elon Is on that list, is at the top of
that list by far, And I think working with has
already been a pleasure. I think he's somebody who cares
about substance over politics or substance over process. I love
that about him. I've actually already learned a tremendous amount
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from him, even in the short time we've known each
other and have given the shorter time that we've gotten
to work together. But I think that we, you know,
we have a similar vision, we have a similar orientation.
We're entrepreneurs in our heart. We like to create things.
We both dislike politics, but we've chosen to be in
the sport because our country requires it and We both
have kids who we care about growing up in a
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country where they can actually live the American dream that
Elon and I have, and take his story. He came
to this country as an immigrant with nothing and built
himself up to be the most successful capitalist, literally in
world history. And for me, that's really resonant. My parents
came to this country with no money forty years ago.
I've gone on and found multi billion dollar companies and
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you know it, became the youngest person ever to run
for US President as a Republican, And so that's what's
possible in this country. That's a Maria, that's the America
we know in love, and we share a passion for
reviving it. And you know, I think we're going to
make for I think a great team, and we're already
enjoying working together. But the hard work is still ahead
of us, and we're ready for the challenge.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
There's going to be a lot of change under President Trump,
but I think what you and Elan are doing are
the most exciting to me because as a conservative, all
these years I've I've preached about limited government, greater freedom,
ending waste for aud and abuse, and as I said earlier,
this is the first time in my life. I think
it will be accomplished. VIK will be with you every
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step of the way, offering any support we can. My
best to you, my best to Elon, and you know,
getting America back to its true purpose, its constitutional order.
We appreciate you being with.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Us, sir, Thank you, my Matt. Take care.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
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hi to Mikey's in Colorado. Mike, how are you glad
you called? Thanks for being with.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Us, Thanks for having me. Sean, I appreciate everything you do.
An r to be honest with you, I would like
you to consider challenging yours pasture and these women who
are refusing to get intimate with their partners or shave
their heads. I think I think we should all be
encouraging them to do so, and by doing so effectively
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remove people like this who can infect their children from
the gene pool. I thank you three time.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
So you want to get you You want these people
removed from the gene pool. You want me to you
want them assist it. You don't want them to procreate?
Is that what you're saying.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
That's exactly right, That's exactly right.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I think I think it's up to them do I
think this is a temporary reaction of most of them.
I don't know their way of somehow rebelling or wanting
to be heard. You know, I don't know when we
went from the land of the Free and the home
of the brave to the land of the snowflake because
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it's so snowflakeish to me, and so woke to me,
and so stupid to me, and on every front. But
in part I don't blame part of them for it.
Let me tell you why they've been indoctrinated into lies.
They have been told that we Conservatives are garbage. They
have been told we're irredeemable deplorables. They've been told where bitter,
angry Americans that cling to God, guns are Bibles and religion.
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They have been told falsehoods. Seniors in this country were
told by Kamala herself that Donald Trump will take away
their Social Security, their medicare. They have been told that
women that would be a national abortion ban if Donald
Trump is elected president again. They were told that he
would limit access to birth control. They were told that
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IVF treatment would go out the window, all of which
is completely false. That he would support Project twenty twenty five,
again completely false. He has no idea what Project twenty
twenty five is. He had no part of Project twenty
twenty five. I have no idea what's in Project twenty
twenty five. And you know, with all the hoopla about it,
I don't even want to know. So in a sense,
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you know, for give them, for they know not what
they do because they've been lied to. And when a
president vice president of this country lies to you on
that level and tells you that if you elect this guy, X, Y,
and Z is gonna happen when it's not true, it does.
It does rile people up, just like they said he
was Stalin, Hitler and Mussolini. Anyway, Mike, you I hear
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what you're saying. But if you know, people don't want
to have sex, if they want to shave their heads,
if they want to, you know, hoard up on abortion pills,
have at it, if they want to divorce their husbands,
it's sad. I wouldn't recommend it over politics, but I
guess the marriage is not that strong to begin with.
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All right, let's go to Tom and New York. Tom,
how are you glad you called hi?
Speaker 6 (19:48):
Sean?
Speaker 4 (19:48):
So?
Speaker 6 (19:48):
I want to make a couple of quick points. First
of all, I own two Henry's thirty eight and a
forty five seventy rifle. Great great firearm, great manufacturer. That's
the first art.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
By the way, aren't they the best? I mean, it's
HENRYUSA dot com. They're an advertiser on the show, and
they have the highest quality old school craftsmanship and combined
with modern technology. And I'm telling you it's such a
great company. And Anthony, the owner is such a great guy.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:17):
I chose the forty five to seventy because it goes
with my sharps eighteen fifty cat saddling in my thirty
eight sub though.
Speaker 7 (20:23):
So that's it.
Speaker 6 (20:24):
So the quote reason why McCall is mister Musk and
a swaby have a great plan. I listened to their plan.
I examine their plan, and that's what I want to hear.
And I think a lot of the American public and
the Conservatives, Republicans, and the Democrats who voted for mister
Trump need to hear these plans. I don't really care
what the Democrats want to do. I don't care what
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they have to say. I don't care if they're crying
on TV. I don't care about shaved heads. A lot
of us this is me an opinion, you don't want
to hear about this stuff. When they're washed up, they're done.
The Americans want to hear the plan what we're going
to do, not to the basic boiler plate. We're gonna drill,
We're gonna do this, We're gonna we we want a plan.
We're always thriving for information. And once we hear the
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plan coming from our elected, duly elected officials, mister Trump,
and I met mister Trump a couple of times, especially
in the Nation's Parade nineteen ninety five on this helicopter
at Floyd Bennett Field. Great great gentleman to talk to
when he was running the Grand Marshall of that ceremony.
But we need the plan, we want the plan. We
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want to hear what the plan in detail, what it's
going to be. And the last thing is, as a
New Yorker you fled to Florida, God bless you. There's
been an uptick in criminal activity with knives, but yet
our governor and the Tish will not call the legislature
back into session to have knife control, knife permits, nice this,
nice that, because it's not a gun. And that's a
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huge problem with a lot of us trying to blame
an an amid object versus the individuals committing the crime.
And I'll thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Listen, I appreciate all your saying. And this is the
problem with the New York and if you know you're
a criminal in New York and you get arrested, they
let you out of jail because they have this idiotic
no bail laws. And then we watched Judge Moreshawn earlier
today and the da Alvin Bragg, who is a he's
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not appointed, it's a political office. And the left wing
in New York loves the fact that he hates Donald
Trump and he's going to ride that, you know, into reelection.
It's pretty insane. Anyway, eight hundred and ninety four one,
Seawn our number if you want to be a part
of the program. Back to our busy phones. As we
say hi to Fred in Illinois, Fred, how are you
(22:39):
glad you called Hi?
Speaker 7 (22:41):
Sean. I just want to take this opportunity quickly to
say that America needs to extend sincere. Thanks to you
for what you do day in and day out. Dragon
us crush the finished link, because I'll tell you, there
was a lot of times that I didn't think we
were going to make it. So thank you for that, and.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Well, thank you listen. I thank everybody in those audience
for doing their part, because that's the only way it
was going to happen. I'm one voice, one vote. I
tried to get the information out there that everybody needed
and thankfully a lot of people understood what was at
stake in this election.
Speaker 7 (23:15):
Well keep punching, Sean, because we need you. But currently
we're caught up in this euphoria with the victory that
we had, and it's you know, we need to do this.
But I think what America has to realize is the
left never never lets up, and they're they're working in
the background here. And my question to you is, since
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you have your finger on the political pulse, and do
you really think and believe that the Republicans have the
political will and the courage to not only get their
cabinet candidates approved, but to carry out Trump's agenda. I
agree with the last caller, we want to see the plan,
(23:58):
but the plan. I'm no old football and rest coach,
and the plan doesn't do any good unless you execute it.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
And oh, I mean you just heard viveg Ramaswami. Both
he and Ela Musk are staying outside of the government.
Do I think they will do a good job. Yes,
In the back of my mind, do I worry that
Republicans might react the way they that people in the
Reagan era reacted to the Grace Commission. Yeah, I worry
about that a little bit. I think that the first
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order of business is going to be getting Donald Trump's
appointments through. There's been all this talk that he may
he may go to recess appointments. You know, well, if
we're gonna, you know, whine and this is outrageous, and
Donald Trump is bypassing the Senate and advising consent, et cetera,
et cetera. Well, it's not the first time there have
(24:48):
been recess appointments. Obama made over thirty of them. Bush
forty three made over one hundred and seventy of them.
Bush forty one used a recess appointment for a Secretary
of State. So that's a lot of a recess appointing
that went on. And anyway, president since George Washington have
made recess appointments. Washington appointed South Carolina Judge John Rutledge
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as the Chief Justice of the of the US during
a congressional recess in seventeen ninety five. If you want
me to go into some of the detail I went
into before. But President Reagan made two hundred and forty
recess appointments. That's an average at thirty a year. President
George H. W. Bush seventy seven recess appointments. That's a
lot of recess appointments. So we'll see what happens. I
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would rather the Republicans in the Senate have a backbone
and understand the mandate that Donald Trump was given here.
But Donald Trump also, you know, he helped a lot
of these candidates get in as well. I'm not sure
Dave McCormick would have made it had Donald Trump not
been on the top of the ticket, for example, in Pennsylvania.
And I think he's going to do a great job.
(25:55):
I think it certainly helped Bernie Marino, and I think
it helped a lot of other people congressional seats. It
was an eighty percent it was viewed. I think the
betting markets even had about an eighty percent chance that
Democrats would take back the House. That didn't happen. So
this is a historic opportunity. The president won the popular
vote that had not happened since two thousand and four,
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and I think that this is a mandate election. I
think it's the death of legacy media, as we've been discussing.
So you know, it's it's going to be up to
us too. You know, we can't just vote and go
away and not pay attention. I mean, we're going to
have to put pressure on elected officials, congressmen and senators
(26:38):
to do their job too, and their job is the
Trump agenda right now. Anyway, I do appreciate to call
my friend. Thank you. Eight hundred and nine four one,
Sew you want to be a part of the program,
Let's get back to our busy phones. Eight hundred nine
four one, Shawn our number. If you'd like to join us,
let us hid to Melissa, North Carolina, Melissa, how are
you glad you called?
Speaker 3 (26:59):
I'm doing great show on How are you?
Speaker 1 (27:01):
I'm good? What's going on?
Speaker 7 (27:03):
Well?
Speaker 3 (27:03):
I have a question. So my question is if these
women are like boycotting sex for four years whatever, man,
why are they stop pulling the abortion pill?
Speaker 1 (27:15):
That's a really good question. I don't really know. Maybe
they don't pay attention to news either. Because the Supreme
Court ruled on the widespread availability of the abortion pill,
and they basically codified that into a law. So that
is almost a first trimester pill. It says up to
ten weeks, but so basically the first trimester. Women will
(27:36):
have access and availability to the abortion pill, which now
represents about sixty five percent of abortions in America.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Right, But if they're not having six I don't think
they need it, honestly, So maybe you need to do
a public service announcement to a runne people how pregnancy happens.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
I don't know if they're not having sex and they're
abstaining from sex. I'm totally pro choice in the and
what people doing their private life. If that's the way
they want to live their life, that's fine with me.
I'm not so sure it's going to go over well
with boyfriends and husbands.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
My mommy, some people don't have the good chance. Gott
gave a billy good.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
But if this is how they want to live their life.
But you'd make a great point. If you're not having sex,
you don't really need to stockpile abortion pills.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
That's what I'm thinking.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
So yeah, I think you're right. Anyway, appreciate the call.
Thank you, Melissa. If you make my day, Let's say hi.
I will stay on the topic with Jeff and Oklahoma. Jeff,
how are you glad you called?
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Great, sir, how are you good?
Speaker 1 (28:37):
What's going on, oh Man.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
I first off, as a homeschool dad in Oklahoma, I
want to say that on election night you called a
lot of nerves that we had when you said you
had never been more confident in anything in your life.
I believe when you were talking about Georgia and North Carolina.
So thank you for calling those nerves at the time.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Well, you know, it's so funny. More people have commented
to me about the comments I made about nine thirty
nine on Fox when I was on with the panel,
and I spoke twice, and once I went over the
numbers and why I thought it was mathematically impossible going
into election day that I said that Kamala had a
(29:16):
math problem. Joe Biden went into Pennsylvania on election day
in twenty twenty with a one point one million vote lead.
He won by less than one hundred thousand way less
than one hundred thousand. Kamala only went in with a
four hundred thousand vote lead. That was a deficit of
seven hundred thousand votes. I spent the day talking to
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people in heavily democratic areas in Pennsylvania that would be Philly,
that would be Alleganty County, for example, and I knew
that the turnout was nowhere near what would have been
historic and necessary for her to catch up. So I
have great contacts in Georgia. Georgia was baked, it was done.
(29:57):
Donald Trump was going to win Georgia, he was going
to win North Carolina. I had good sources there. I
knew that he would win Arizona by that point, and
likely Nevada, which he ended up winning. I also knew
that she had the same numbers problem and deficit problem
in Wisconsin based on early voting, because she was forty
forty five percent down from where Joe Biden was in
twenty twenty. And it's amazing when I said that, and
(30:20):
I said, look, I may be get getting over my skis.
If I turn out to be wrong, you can print
Hannity was wrong, t shirts. But here's how the night's
going to unfold. And I turned out being right because
I've worked the phones all day and that's that's what
I do for a living, and I'm supposed to be right.
If I didn't believe that, I wouldn't have said it.
(30:40):
And even close friends of mine said they knew it
was over the minute I said what I said, or
else I would not have said it, and they're right.
I'm glad it gave you some piece that night, though,
so I hope you know that it came from a
place of a lot of research and a lot of calling.
I was doing making a lot of calls that day
and night. Anyway, my friend, thank you eight hundred and
ninety four one. Sean, if you want to be part
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