January 13, 2025 • 31 mins
Newt Gingrich, Former Speaker of the House and Author of March to Majority joins the show to discuss the California wildfires, the forgotten and discarded people of Western North Carolina, and the threat of an EMP attack on the United States. Lastly, Newt has a new documentary out following the lives of 9 successful LEGAL immigrants,
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, thanks Scott Chat an hour or two Sean
Hannity's show. One week from today, it is inauguration day.
It's a new day for the country and maybe an
opportunity to get every one hundred years. And I really
believe if Republicans stick together, if they are strategic, if
they stick to the Trump agenda, and the Trump promises
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very simple and that is secure the border, to port
those people that enter the country illegally, find the terrorists,
the cartel members, the murderers, the rapists, gang members that
are known to be in the country. If they become
energy super dominant and we've become an energy wealthy country,
we can begin the process of restoring the economy. Tax
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cuts being permanent, no tax on tips, no tax on
social security, no tax on overtime, shoring up social security
and medicare, which are headed towards insolvency. You building the
next generation of weaponry, knowing that future wars likely won't
be on a battlefield, but be fought in air conditioned offices.
(01:05):
That would be transformational in every way. Anyway, New king
Rich is with us, former Speaker of the House, author
of March to the Majority, and anyway he has a
new documentary that he's put out following the lives of
the lives of nine successful legal immigrants. Journey to America
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is what it's called. For example, there's there's a conflict
even within MAGA over H one v one uh visas.
I have no problem if we vet people, and we
should first bring in the world's best, brightest engineers, medical researchers, doctors, lawyers,
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you know that, just the top people, and maybe they
can help us with the artificial intelligence and building out
the next generation of warfare and the weaponry that we
will need. Considering we have a gap of vulnerability now
where China and Russia hypersonic missile technology and other other
weapons systems, and we've fallen behind. Anyway, mister speaker, great
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to have you back. Congratulations on the new documentary.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Well, we're thrilled. It's gonna be on PBS tomorrow night
at ten o'clock and called Journey to American. Twiss and
I worked on it because we're very much opposed to
illegal immigration, and we strongly support both closing the border
and deporting people like the criminals you were describing, but
at the same time we believe that legal immigration. I
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mean President Trump's mother came from Scotland, Callissa's grandmother came
through Ellis Island from Poland in nineteen oh seven, and
almost everybody listening to us knows somebody who's either a
first or second generation immigrant or a descendant of relatively
recent immigrants, and they brought huge diversity and energy and
capability of the country. So I draw a very sharp distink.
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And I was surprised and frankly delighted last week to
see that in both the House and the Senate the
lakeln Rally bill actually got a good number of Democratic votes.
And I think it may be a sign of how
really big the transitions about to become that Democrats, who
in Trump's first administration would have been hard line a
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lot of them are now trying to look for a
way to cooperate and to vote with us on a
bipartisan basis. And I thought that was very encouraging in
terms of the big bills that will be coming up
later on this year.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Why am I less optimistic? Why do I suspect with
the beginning of these hearings for Trump's nominees that you know,
the real Adam Schiff, the real Chuck Schumer, the real
Dick Dermott, will you know, rear their ugly heads and
they'll try to go full on hardcore Robert Vohr, Clarence Thomas,
Justice Kavanaugh and smear, slander, bes merch, and attack Trump
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like they always do.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Sounds about right, But remember when Reagan passed those great
tax cuts in nineteen eighty one, he only he got
forty six Democrats, which was enough to win, but he
didn't get you know, the other one hundred and eighty. Similarly,
when we passed welfare reform, which the country desperately wanted,
we got one hundred and one Democrats. We had one
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hundred and one voting no, including some of them who
got to the Florence that we were Nazis because we
were going to target the children. Of course, when people
went to work, their incomes went up. The largest number
of children leaving poverty in American history came after welfare reform.
But the left wing of their party, it is there,
It is real, it is insane, and it's not going
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to change. But if we can split off anywhere from
twenty to forty percent, so you have sort of an
internal struggle within the Democratic Party. That's a huge advantage.
And I just did some research. There are thirteen Democrats
in that Trump carried and another twenty one Democrats in
districts where Trump came within five percent. That means that
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there's a potential marketplace of thirty four House Democrats that
if the President decides this spring to go out and
do a barnstorming series of rallies in favor of a
tax cut, energy production, higher take home pay, more affordability,
along with the border and immigration. I suspect he's going
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to get a surprising number of Democrats who decide to
go with him.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
I tend to think you're probably right. I look at
what's going on in California, and I look at the
excuse making. I look at the finger pointing. There's certain
truths and realities that the California can't run away from
that they've rejected the science of forestry and that would
be including clearing brush and controlled burns because of the
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quote environment. We look at a state that also has
fire hydrants that weren't working, reservoirs that were empty, and
a very defensive governor. And now we've got three more
days of Santa Anna wins. You know one hundred miles
an hour plus, and we're expecting, you know, these fires
to get out of control yet again. And I just
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sit here in amazement. You know, LA's fire chief warned
the mayor, Karen Bass, just two months ago that her
her department only had half the staff that they needed
to fight wildfires, and of course, you know, the mayor
was missing in action, wouldn't answer any questions from the press, initially,
didn't even know where to direct people in terms of
getting help. Wealthy La liberals are, you know, calling in
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private firefighters to save their homes. I really don't blame
them if the city's not going to protect them and
they can hire their own people.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
I don't. I don't. I can't fault them for that,
can you.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
No, Let's tell you a lot about the decay of
government in California that people think they need private guards,
they need private firefighters, go down the West. In all fairness,
I think that the mayor of Los Angeles is now
in a competition with the mayor of Chicago to be
the worst mayor in the country, and it's a close
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run thing. I think she's ahead right now for being
the worst mayor. But we haven't seen the Mayor of
Chicago try to do anything. But the deeper point is
there are two different stories here. One, we have to
have three things in mind. Stop the fires, whatever it
takes them that we have to move in the American military,
if we have to move in lots of other aircraft
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from around the country to be able to dump enough
fire retardant whatever tastes, stop the fires. That's number one.
Number two, find a way. What is the least expensive,
fastest way to help people rebuild? I mean, we saw
the Great Chicago Fire of eighteen seventy one, the earthquake
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in San Francisco in nineteen oh six, the great earthquake
in Tokyo in nineteen twenty three, the degree to which
we bomb both Hamburg and Tokyo in World War two.
People can come back, they can come back remarkably fast.
But under California's current rules and current bureaucracy, they'll never
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come back because it's too expensive, it takes too long,
the bureaucrats have too much power, and the trial warriors
have too much power. So our second big job should
be clear out all the things that make it more
expensive and takes longer, and clean it out, and I
think President Trump may have the executive authority to declare
a national emergency. This is going to be such a
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big issue that he may be able to use national
emergency status to just sweepingly clear it on behalf of
saving lives and saving people, and then third, let's look
at imposing new rules that make sense. Now, of course
you have on the side and Governor Knews, a man
who lives in a fantasy land, who just set aside
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fifty million dollars to fight the Trump administration. The thing
with this, he's gonna have to turn to Trump for
an amazing amount of money, for an extraordinary amount of help.
And what are they doing. They're putting us out of
fifty million dollars state fund to fight Trump. I mean,
this is like insanity.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Well, you really can't make it up. Let's talk about
the times that we're living in here. One week from
today's inauguration day, we'll be in DC. I'm pretty sure
you'll you will be there quick, pus And okay, so
you have I'm looking at this as a chance that
maybe you get every hundred hundred and fifty years if
Donald Trump just fulfills his promises to literally cut two
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trillion dollars and reduce the size and scope and influence
of government and return to the principles constitutional principles of
limited government, greater freedom that envisioned by our founders and
by our framers. That will be trans if if in fact,
he secures the borders and he deports those people in
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here illegally, that will be transformational. If he makes us
the most energy dominant country on Earth, that is the
greatest opportunity. I think we have to become a wealthy country.
If he re establishes America's military, I am very worried
about that gap of vulnerability that I described and the
lead into this segment that will be transformational and will
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protect the country hopefully for decades to come. It is
a bigger under undertaking.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Now.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I know there's been discussions. I know more senators want
two bills, not one bill. You want one big beautiful bill.
Trump and talked about one big beautiful bill. If I
had to guess, it's leaning now towards the two bill strategy.
Can all of this be accomplished?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Well? I worry very much about how slow the Senate
is capable be If you go with the two bills strategy,
and you put the easy stuff, the border, etc. In
the first bill, and then you have to come back
and pass the much bigger, more complicated bill. I was
just and I've written about this at Ginger three sixty.
(11:14):
I lived through this. In nineteen eighty one, Reagan had
a great victory. We passed a three year tax but
none of us fully understood. It didn't go into effect
until nineteen eighty three. Well, guess what, everybody stopped investing
for all of nineteen eighty two, waiting for the tax
advantage of investing eighty three. We lost twenty six seats
in the House twenty seventeen. I really wanted them to
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start with infrastructure and taxes. Ryan and McConnell insisted that
they had to start by repealing Obamacare. They failed to
appeal Obamacare, and they don't pass the tax bill until December,
when it doesn't have any effect. We moved forty seats
in the House. Now, you know, I would just say,
unless they get every Senator to sign on the dotted
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line a public document pledging to get the second bill
out by the end of May, I would never go
with a two bill model. And I would urge Speaker
Johnson to just ignore them. I mean, if he insists
on one bill, it's going to come out of the
House as one bill and the Senate's going to have
to eat it. But I would not get play games.
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I mean, I frankly believe the Senate rules are so complicated,
the ability of senators to slow everything down is so
great that if you let them play games of this,
you're going to have a disaster in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
All right, quick break, we'll continue more with new king Rich.
By the way, a link to his new documentary on
Hannity dot Com. It's called Journey to America. We'll get
more of his take on the inauguration one week from
today and what Republicans need to do if they want
to be transformational and effective. Continue now, New Gingrich is
with us. Don't forget his new documentary. We have a
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link to it. It's on Hannity dot Com. It's called
a Journey to America. This, to me, is what I've
been warning this audience about. You just can't vote for
Donald Trump and think that Congress is going to do
the right thing. We have two slim a majority, especially
in the House, and they're going to need to they're
going to need to hear from their constituents that they
want this done and at the right time. At that moment,
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we'll give out the phone number. People can be respectful
and call in. I want to shift a little bit
here and ask you this question. You address the issue
of the danger of an electro magnetic pulse attack on
this country. And when I read what you had written
and said it scared the living daylights out of me.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Well it should. There's a brilliant novel a good friend
of mine, Arthur though Fortune, called One Second After, which
is a technically accurate study of a small town in
North Carolina after an an electromagnetic pulse attack. This is
a form of very high intense energy rate which which
burns out for example, electric generator. It burns out your
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car if it had anything in your car that is electric.
And he describes what it means when all of a
sudden you don't have electricity. And these giant generators take
years to build, and we don't build them here anymore.
They're both places in Switzerland. And so you look at that,
and I would say, if there's any short term gap
in American defenses, it's the absolute incompetence of the government
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to sort out a defense against an electromagnetic pulse attack, which,
by the way, if you've set off an electromagnetic bomb
at about one hundred thousand feet over Omaha, you cover
one half of the country without one weapon. And we're
watching North Korea acquire the ability to put things in orbit,
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and they could put an electromagnetic weapon in orbit and
you'd never know it till they used it.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
That's pretty chilling. New king Rich, Congratulations. New documentary is
out as called Journey to America. We have a link
on hannity dot com. We appreciate your time as always,
Thank you, sir, Thank you. Eight hundred nine one, Shawn
our number. You want to be a part of the
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couple of days.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
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disaster out in California. Now we have three more days
of Santa Anna wins. On top of everything else we
did learn over the weekend, and it shouldn't be a
surprise to anybody, apparently one little inconvenient detail on top
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of the fire hydrants that don't work, on top of
the reservoir being emptied, on top of the lack of
manpower and the warning of LA's fire chief to Karen
Bass months ago that her department only had half the
staff they would need to fight a wildfire. Now we're
learning that the guy that they caught wandering around Los
Angeles on Friday as the as he allegedly was torching
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this carded Christmas trees with a flamethrower. Yeah, it's a
Harris Biden illegal. I've yet to see anybody in the
fake news state run media mob asked any of the
elected officials in California about that it is a sanctuary state.
LA is a sanctuary city. New York Post had a headline,
so suspect arrested with flamethrower near LA fire is an
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illegal immigrant, according to sources. As we've been vetting out
all of these stories, but the devastation is real. We
have now twenty four people dead in this people worn
now to brace for the next seventy two hours of hell.
Three years ago, Karen Bass, the mayor, promised to cut
back on her world travel. She was in Ghana when
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this story, when this tragedy was beginning to unfold. She
gave city contractors very rich, you know, promotions and raises
before cutting the fire department. As we've pointed out many times,
there're seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year. Water
chief knew about at the empty reservoir, knew about the
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hydrants not working months before the fires. Gavin Newsom was
corrected by reporters after making one hundred and seventeen million
gallon mistake while hitting out at Donald Trump, and you know,
the fact checking is not coming out too well on
his particular side. And anyway, Democrats are now turning on
each other. The LA Fire chief is detailing the devastation
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because of the cuts that she warned the mayor about.
There's a lot of anger that a lot of wealthy
people in the area have been shelling out two thousand
dollars an hour for private firefighters. If you're not going
to get help from the city, can you really blame
people if for attempting to hire people to help save
their home, considering what it means to rebuild your entire
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life like that, and it's pretty unbelievable. And anyway, so
we have let me play for you. Kristin Crowley, the
LA Fire chiefs saying that city officials failed us. We
expect water in hydrants. This should be one on one.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Listen, the City of Los Angeles fail you and your
department and our city. It's my job to stand up
as a chief and exactly say, justifiably what the fire
department needs to operate to meet the demands of the community.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Did they fail you?
Speaker 4 (20:20):
That is our job and I tell you that's why
I'm here. So let's get us what we need so
firefighters can do their jobs.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Did they fail you, yes, Chief Kristin Crowley.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
The question is about the Santa Inez reservoir being empty.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
There's been a lot of questions about that. Sure.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
So my stance on this is when a firefighter comes
up to a hydrant, we expect there's going to be water.
We don't control the water supply. Our firefighters are there
to protect lives and property and to make sure that
we're properly trained and equipped.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
That's my position on this.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Now, she says that firefighters were not made aware at
the Santa Inez Reservoir was even empty, and Gavin Newsom's
answer was, well, that's a local one.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Here.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Listen, Sandra Endo, one of our angers wants to know
if the department is advised that the Santa Ynez Reservoir.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Was going to be emptied, were you aware that there
was no water there? No, we weren't aware of that.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
They don't have to advise you, not that I'm aware
of now, So you had no idea that there wasn't
need such needed resources.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
No, we weren't.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I mean, kudos to the fire chief for being honest. Furthermore,
in that same press conference, she was very clear that
the LA Fire Department is underfunded and understaffed, and we
now know that she had been warning the mayor not
to cut the budget and that they needed it. They
only had half the staff that they would need for
a wildfire such as the one they've experienced out there.
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And if you look at the pictures, I mean now
we have over twelve thousand, you know, structures that have
burned on the ground.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Listen.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
I have also requested multiple budgets interim budget to show
how understaffed, under resource and underfunded the LAFD is. So
with that, also, we have clear data that shows the
LFD needs more help. We need sixty two more fire stations.
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These reports also show that we've had a fifty five
percent increase in overall call volume since twenty ten. And
guess what we're doing it with less firefighters.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
You can't make it up.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
And now the biggest spear two as this now comes
to an end, is potential looting that's going to be
taking place in these areas. Joel Pollock and John conn
of Breitbart here to talk about their home California, where
they live and what has happened over the past week
and what's happened to this One's beautiful state now riddled
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with fire and ash because of woke policies. In part
the sad reality is John himself lost his home. There
was nothing left. I saw an ex post of his
the only there was nothing recognizable pretty much in his
house when he went back. Welcome both of you to
the program. And John con I'm so sorry that you
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lost your home. I don't even know what to say.
It just is so this was so preventable and predictable.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Santa Ana.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Wins are predictable, but the need for fire hydrants is
one oh one.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
The need for a full reservoir is basic, right.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
You know, Son's truly you know, I might have a
different perspective on this, you know, because I'm right in
the middle of it. But we're all news guys, and
it's really interesting to look at a story like this.
We always see it through the lens of the news
and it's always over there. It's never you never think
you're going to be part of the story. And as
someone Joe and I are both.
Speaker 7 (23:47):
Part of this story.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
And to drive through our neighborhoods, you've never seen anything
quite like it. And I'm having sort of an odd
reaction to it, because I know that they're going to
be investigations and it should be investigated, why this, how
this could possibly have happened. But for me personally, I'm
not at the anger stage. I'm not sure I'm even
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going to get there, because when you see all the devastation,
and I can just tell you the level of grief
and loss that I feel is just beyond anything I
can comprehend it. When you see all the other people
and all the destruction and all those houses, and you
know they.
Speaker 7 (24:25):
Have that grief as well.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
And so for me personally, I'm sort of focusing on
the positive things that could come out of this and
all the love and the outpouring of prayers and everything
that Joel and I are receiving specifically, and I'm sure
everybody else is, but it's you know, I think this,
you know, clearly needs to be investigated, but you know
we're you know, we're strong people, and we're going to
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get back up and move forward from it.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Gavin said that he would streamline the process and allowed
the little build back quickly. But we had Jillian Michael's
on the program her home burn of the ground in
twenty eighteen. It took well over a year year and
a half for her to get the permitting to build
back up. It was taking Susanne Summers and her husband
seven plus years to rebuild their Malibu home. I don't
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even think they've even got back to rebuilding it. All right,
quick break right back more with Joel Pollock, John Kahn
on the other side as they talk about the devastation
John losing his home in these California wildfires, Joel almost
losing his home. Eight hundred and nine to four one.
Shawn is on number one, So get to your calls.
Coming up straight ahead on this Monday, one week from today,
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Inauguration Day, we will be in DC.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Who would want to miss this? I we can take you.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Now with Joel Pollock and John Connor Breidbart. John lost
his home in these California wildfires, and Joel nearly lost
his home. Every home around where he lives was burned
to the ground. Joel, my understanding is while you didn't
lose your home, a lot of homes near you did
burn to the ground.
Speaker 7 (25:55):
That's right, Sean. I arrived on Wednesday in the middle
of the fire, once it became barely safe enough to
start to go into the Pacific Palisades, and I saw
my home was still standing, but the fence was on
fire and there was no running water at all. So
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I grabbed a bucket and I dipped it into the
gutter where water was running downhill from homes that had
been destroyed further into the neighborhood, and I started pouring
water on the fence and on my neighbor's fence.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
What century are we living in here? I'm just checking.
Speaker 7 (26:36):
Yeah. Well, when government news, Simon said, locals, we'll figure
it out. This is how we figured it out. A
couple of guys and men from the neighborhood showed up
in a truck. They jumped out, We found two more buckets.
We formed an assembly line, and we put out the
fires on my fence and my neighbor's fence, and we
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helped save the neighborhood. But I have to tell tell
you most of the neighborhood is destroyed, and it's yesterday.
John came into the palisade with me, and he actually
noticed there was smoke a couple of doors down at
one of the other houses that was still standing. So
he helped save the neighborhood too, And when I got
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to my on Wednesday, I saw that the garden hose
was fully extended across my yard, which means that some
neighbor had tried to put out the fire on his
own or her own. And we're all looking out for
each other or It's an incredible spirit of togetherness and strength,
but it is absolutely devastating because when I stand on
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my street corner now, my house is the only one standing,
and every other house on the corner is gone. The
seven houses that are the first houses on my street survived,
but almost nothing else did. And the school next door
that my kids go who has been destroyed except for
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the murals that the kids painted. They are murals of
ringbows and doves, which you know, has that biblical imagery
of Noah after the flood, and God's promised not to
destroy the world again. So we're taking hope in those
little symbols. But I've had public officials who I'm supposed
to interview crying on my shoulder and asking me what
they should do, and what John's saying is right. We
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do have to find the answers, and we do have
to talk about what went wrong. Honestly, But we also
have to support those who now have responsibilities to rebuild.
And I have told them, if you do the right thing,
you're a full support of the community.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Well, I also think, and I know Donald Trump pretty well,
that I think that he's going to understand the devastation
of the people out there.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
You know.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
But while that's the case, you know, Gavin Newsom is
what organizing a state effort to trump prove the state
of California to the tune of fifty million lawsuits, you know.
And I was out there in two thousand and nine,
and I went to the San Joaquin Valley where they
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there was thousands and thousands of acres of farmland that
nobody could farm on because all of the water was
being saved for the Delta smelt. Now we learn that
waters being portant to the Pacific every year from northern
California instead of funneled down into the reservoirs when and
by the way, they were supposed to build five of
them that they had a referendum in twenty fourteen. You
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have the fire department budget cut, You have hydrants that
don't work, you have reservoirs that are empty, You have
half the manpower that they fired. Chief said that they
would have needed months ago, and nobody wants to take responsibility.
And in the meantime, you know, now you're at the
point John that you you have to rebuild your life.
(29:50):
I admire your fighting spirit, but I mean your life
is completely turned upside down right now now.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
It is. But you know, some as we all know,
the American spirit is to get up and keep flighting.
And there's nothing. The houses are gone, the neighborhood's gone.
This is a town I grew up in and my
brother's house miraculously made it, but everything else is gone,
and you kind of, you know, for me, it's just
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is what's next. I don't know. There's a lot of fear.
There's a lot of grief, but you know, we get
up and we keep going. And when I found, like
like you mentioned earlier, I found an American flag picture
water picture in the rubble of my house. It was
the only thing I could identify, and I thought, Okay,
well that's the fining spirit of Americans. And I'm going
(30:41):
to help anybody I can and receive, you know, the
prayers and amazing thoughts that everybody's reached out. People I
don't even know and in one day at a time.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Yeah, well, you have our prayers with you, our thoughts
with you and all the victims in this case. And
it's so frustrating as an outsider to know that all
of this, my view, was preventable, you know, practicing the
science of forestry. Maybe we'll start there. We do appreciate
your time, John con Joel Pollock, Thank you both. Prayers
(31:14):
for both your families, your neighbors, and everybody in California.
And the next three days are going to be very telling.
Let's see if they learned anything and whether or not
they're going to do a better job. I don't have
a lot of confidence in that. Thank you both, and
we'll we'll update this story is needed over time.
All right, thanks Scott Chat an hour or two Sean
Hannity's show. One week from today, it is inauguration day.
It's a new day for the country and maybe an
opportunity to get every one hundred years. And I really
believe if Republicans stick together, if they are strategic, if
they stick to the Trump agenda, and the Trump promises
(00:21):
very simple and that is secure the border, to port
those people that enter the country illegally, find the terrorists,
the cartel members, the murderers, the rapists, gang members that
are known to be in the country. If they become
energy super dominant and we've become an energy wealthy country,
we can begin the process of restoring the economy. Tax
(00:44):
cuts being permanent, no tax on tips, no tax on
social security, no tax on overtime, shoring up social security
and medicare, which are headed towards insolvency. You building the
next generation of weaponry, knowing that future wars likely won't
be on a battlefield, but be fought in air conditioned offices.
(01:05):
That would be transformational in every way. Anyway, New king
Rich is with us, former Speaker of the House, author
of March to the Majority, and anyway he has a
new documentary that he's put out following the lives of
the lives of nine successful legal immigrants. Journey to America
(01:27):
is what it's called. For example, there's there's a conflict
even within MAGA over H one v one uh visas.
I have no problem if we vet people, and we
should first bring in the world's best, brightest engineers, medical researchers, doctors, lawyers,
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you know that, just the top people, and maybe they
can help us with the artificial intelligence and building out
the next generation of warfare and the weaponry that we
will need. Considering we have a gap of vulnerability now
where China and Russia hypersonic missile technology and other other
weapons systems, and we've fallen behind. Anyway, mister speaker, great
(02:12):
to have you back. Congratulations on the new documentary.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Well, we're thrilled. It's gonna be on PBS tomorrow night
at ten o'clock and called Journey to American. Twiss and
I worked on it because we're very much opposed to
illegal immigration, and we strongly support both closing the border
and deporting people like the criminals you were describing, but
at the same time we believe that legal immigration. I
(02:38):
mean President Trump's mother came from Scotland, Callissa's grandmother came
through Ellis Island from Poland in nineteen oh seven, and
almost everybody listening to us knows somebody who's either a
first or second generation immigrant or a descendant of relatively
recent immigrants, and they brought huge diversity and energy and
capability of the country. So I draw a very sharp distink.
(03:00):
And I was surprised and frankly delighted last week to
see that in both the House and the Senate the
lakeln Rally bill actually got a good number of Democratic votes.
And I think it may be a sign of how
really big the transitions about to become that Democrats, who
in Trump's first administration would have been hard line a
(03:23):
lot of them are now trying to look for a
way to cooperate and to vote with us on a
bipartisan basis. And I thought that was very encouraging in
terms of the big bills that will be coming up
later on this year.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Why am I less optimistic? Why do I suspect with
the beginning of these hearings for Trump's nominees that you know,
the real Adam Schiff, the real Chuck Schumer, the real
Dick Dermott, will you know, rear their ugly heads and
they'll try to go full on hardcore Robert Vohr, Clarence Thomas,
Justice Kavanaugh and smear, slander, bes merch, and attack Trump
(03:58):
like they always do.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Sounds about right, But remember when Reagan passed those great
tax cuts in nineteen eighty one, he only he got
forty six Democrats, which was enough to win, but he
didn't get you know, the other one hundred and eighty. Similarly,
when we passed welfare reform, which the country desperately wanted,
we got one hundred and one Democrats. We had one
(04:21):
hundred and one voting no, including some of them who
got to the Florence that we were Nazis because we
were going to target the children. Of course, when people
went to work, their incomes went up. The largest number
of children leaving poverty in American history came after welfare reform.
But the left wing of their party, it is there,
It is real, it is insane, and it's not going
(04:44):
to change. But if we can split off anywhere from
twenty to forty percent, so you have sort of an
internal struggle within the Democratic Party. That's a huge advantage.
And I just did some research. There are thirteen Democrats
in that Trump carried and another twenty one Democrats in
districts where Trump came within five percent. That means that
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there's a potential marketplace of thirty four House Democrats that
if the President decides this spring to go out and
do a barnstorming series of rallies in favor of a
tax cut, energy production, higher take home pay, more affordability,
along with the border and immigration. I suspect he's going
(05:29):
to get a surprising number of Democrats who decide to
go with him.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
I tend to think you're probably right. I look at
what's going on in California, and I look at the
excuse making. I look at the finger pointing. There's certain
truths and realities that the California can't run away from
that they've rejected the science of forestry and that would
be including clearing brush and controlled burns because of the
(05:57):
quote environment. We look at a state that also has
fire hydrants that weren't working, reservoirs that were empty, and
a very defensive governor. And now we've got three more
days of Santa Anna wins. You know one hundred miles
an hour plus, and we're expecting, you know, these fires
to get out of control yet again. And I just
(06:20):
sit here in amazement. You know, LA's fire chief warned
the mayor, Karen Bass, just two months ago that her
her department only had half the staff that they needed
to fight wildfires, and of course, you know, the mayor
was missing in action, wouldn't answer any questions from the press, initially,
didn't even know where to direct people in terms of
getting help. Wealthy La liberals are, you know, calling in
(06:46):
private firefighters to save their homes. I really don't blame
them if the city's not going to protect them and
they can hire their own people.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
I don't. I don't. I can't fault them for that,
can you.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
No, Let's tell you a lot about the decay of
government in California that people think they need private guards,
they need private firefighters, go down the West. In all fairness,
I think that the mayor of Los Angeles is now
in a competition with the mayor of Chicago to be
the worst mayor in the country, and it's a close
(07:17):
run thing. I think she's ahead right now for being
the worst mayor. But we haven't seen the Mayor of
Chicago try to do anything. But the deeper point is
there are two different stories here. One, we have to
have three things in mind. Stop the fires, whatever it
takes them that we have to move in the American military,
if we have to move in lots of other aircraft
(07:39):
from around the country to be able to dump enough
fire retardant whatever tastes, stop the fires. That's number one.
Number two, find a way. What is the least expensive,
fastest way to help people rebuild? I mean, we saw
the Great Chicago Fire of eighteen seventy one, the earthquake
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in San Francisco in nineteen oh six, the great earthquake
in Tokyo in nineteen twenty three, the degree to which
we bomb both Hamburg and Tokyo in World War two.
People can come back, they can come back remarkably fast.
But under California's current rules and current bureaucracy, they'll never
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come back because it's too expensive, it takes too long,
the bureaucrats have too much power, and the trial warriors
have too much power. So our second big job should
be clear out all the things that make it more
expensive and takes longer, and clean it out, and I
think President Trump may have the executive authority to declare
a national emergency. This is going to be such a
(08:44):
big issue that he may be able to use national
emergency status to just sweepingly clear it on behalf of
saving lives and saving people, and then third, let's look
at imposing new rules that make sense. Now, of course
you have on the side and Governor Knews, a man
who lives in a fantasy land, who just set aside
(09:06):
fifty million dollars to fight the Trump administration. The thing
with this, he's gonna have to turn to Trump for
an amazing amount of money, for an extraordinary amount of help.
And what are they doing. They're putting us out of
fifty million dollars state fund to fight Trump. I mean,
this is like insanity.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Well, you really can't make it up. Let's talk about
the times that we're living in here. One week from
today's inauguration day, we'll be in DC. I'm pretty sure
you'll you will be there quick, pus And okay, so
you have I'm looking at this as a chance that
maybe you get every hundred hundred and fifty years if
Donald Trump just fulfills his promises to literally cut two
(09:45):
trillion dollars and reduce the size and scope and influence
of government and return to the principles constitutional principles of
limited government, greater freedom that envisioned by our founders and
by our framers. That will be trans if if in fact,
he secures the borders and he deports those people in
(10:06):
here illegally, that will be transformational. If he makes us
the most energy dominant country on Earth, that is the
greatest opportunity. I think we have to become a wealthy country.
If he re establishes America's military, I am very worried
about that gap of vulnerability that I described and the
lead into this segment that will be transformational and will
(10:27):
protect the country hopefully for decades to come. It is
a bigger under undertaking.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Now.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I know there's been discussions. I know more senators want
two bills, not one bill. You want one big beautiful bill.
Trump and talked about one big beautiful bill. If I
had to guess, it's leaning now towards the two bill strategy.
Can all of this be accomplished?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Well? I worry very much about how slow the Senate
is capable be If you go with the two bills strategy,
and you put the easy stuff, the border, etc. In
the first bill, and then you have to come back
and pass the much bigger, more complicated bill. I was
just and I've written about this at Ginger three sixty.
(11:14):
I lived through this. In nineteen eighty one, Reagan had
a great victory. We passed a three year tax but
none of us fully understood. It didn't go into effect
until nineteen eighty three. Well, guess what, everybody stopped investing
for all of nineteen eighty two, waiting for the tax
advantage of investing eighty three. We lost twenty six seats
in the House twenty seventeen. I really wanted them to
(11:38):
start with infrastructure and taxes. Ryan and McConnell insisted that
they had to start by repealing Obamacare. They failed to
appeal Obamacare, and they don't pass the tax bill until December,
when it doesn't have any effect. We moved forty seats
in the House. Now, you know, I would just say,
unless they get every Senator to sign on the dotted
(12:00):
line a public document pledging to get the second bill
out by the end of May, I would never go
with a two bill model. And I would urge Speaker
Johnson to just ignore them. I mean, if he insists
on one bill, it's going to come out of the
House as one bill and the Senate's going to have
to eat it. But I would not get play games.
(12:21):
I mean, I frankly believe the Senate rules are so complicated,
the ability of senators to slow everything down is so
great that if you let them play games of this,
you're going to have a disaster in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
All right, quick break, we'll continue more with new king Rich.
By the way, a link to his new documentary on
Hannity dot Com. It's called Journey to America. We'll get
more of his take on the inauguration one week from
today and what Republicans need to do if they want
to be transformational and effective. Continue now, New Gingrich is
with us. Don't forget his new documentary. We have a
(12:54):
link to it. It's on Hannity dot Com. It's called
a Journey to America. This, to me, is what I've
been warning this audience about. You just can't vote for
Donald Trump and think that Congress is going to do
the right thing. We have two slim a majority, especially
in the House, and they're going to need to they're
going to need to hear from their constituents that they
want this done and at the right time. At that moment,
(13:17):
we'll give out the phone number. People can be respectful
and call in. I want to shift a little bit
here and ask you this question. You address the issue
of the danger of an electro magnetic pulse attack on
this country. And when I read what you had written
and said it scared the living daylights out of me.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Well it should. There's a brilliant novel a good friend
of mine, Arthur though Fortune, called One Second After, which
is a technically accurate study of a small town in
North Carolina after an an electromagnetic pulse attack. This is
a form of very high intense energy rate which which
burns out for example, electric generator. It burns out your
(14:01):
car if it had anything in your car that is electric.
And he describes what it means when all of a
sudden you don't have electricity. And these giant generators take
years to build, and we don't build them here anymore.
They're both places in Switzerland. And so you look at that,
and I would say, if there's any short term gap
in American defenses, it's the absolute incompetence of the government
(14:25):
to sort out a defense against an electromagnetic pulse attack, which,
by the way, if you've set off an electromagnetic bomb
at about one hundred thousand feet over Omaha, you cover
one half of the country without one weapon. And we're
watching North Korea acquire the ability to put things in orbit,
(14:45):
and they could put an electromagnetic weapon in orbit and
you'd never know it till they used it.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
That's pretty chilling. New king Rich, Congratulations. New documentary is
out as called Journey to America. We have a link
on hannity dot com. We appreciate your time as always,
Thank you, sir, Thank you. Eight hundred nine one, Shawn
our number. You want to be a part of the
program next week will be in DC. Will be there Sunday, Monday, Tuesday,
(15:11):
and Wednesday of next week. We'll explain why in a
couple of days.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Sean Hannity.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Always concern for our country, always honoring our servicemen and
service women, and standing up for liberty every day. And
twenty five now to the top of the hour, eight
hundred nine four one, Sean, if you want to be
a part of the program, we're only one week away.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
From inauguration day. Pretty excited about that.
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disaster out in California. Now we have three more days
of Santa Anna wins. On top of everything else we
did learn over the weekend, and it shouldn't be a
surprise to anybody, apparently one little inconvenient detail on top
(17:32):
of the fire hydrants that don't work, on top of
the reservoir being emptied, on top of the lack of
manpower and the warning of LA's fire chief to Karen
Bass months ago that her department only had half the
staff they would need to fight a wildfire. Now we're
learning that the guy that they caught wandering around Los
Angeles on Friday as the as he allegedly was torching
(17:57):
this carded Christmas trees with a flamethrower. Yeah, it's a
Harris Biden illegal. I've yet to see anybody in the
fake news state run media mob asked any of the
elected officials in California about that it is a sanctuary state.
LA is a sanctuary city. New York Post had a headline,
so suspect arrested with flamethrower near LA fire is an
(18:20):
illegal immigrant, according to sources. As we've been vetting out
all of these stories, but the devastation is real. We
have now twenty four people dead in this people worn
now to brace for the next seventy two hours of hell.
Three years ago, Karen Bass, the mayor, promised to cut
back on her world travel. She was in Ghana when
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this story, when this tragedy was beginning to unfold. She
gave city contractors very rich, you know, promotions and raises
before cutting the fire department. As we've pointed out many times,
there're seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year. Water
chief knew about at the empty reservoir, knew about the
(19:02):
hydrants not working months before the fires. Gavin Newsom was
corrected by reporters after making one hundred and seventeen million
gallon mistake while hitting out at Donald Trump, and you know,
the fact checking is not coming out too well on
his particular side. And anyway, Democrats are now turning on
each other. The LA Fire chief is detailing the devastation
(19:26):
because of the cuts that she warned the mayor about.
There's a lot of anger that a lot of wealthy
people in the area have been shelling out two thousand
dollars an hour for private firefighters. If you're not going
to get help from the city, can you really blame
people if for attempting to hire people to help save
their home, considering what it means to rebuild your entire
(19:48):
life like that, and it's pretty unbelievable. And anyway, so
we have let me play for you. Kristin Crowley, the
LA Fire chiefs saying that city officials failed us. We
expect water in hydrants. This should be one on one.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Listen, the City of Los Angeles fail you and your
department and our city. It's my job to stand up
as a chief and exactly say, justifiably what the fire
department needs to operate to meet the demands of the community.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Did they fail you?
Speaker 4 (20:20):
That is our job and I tell you that's why
I'm here. So let's get us what we need so
firefighters can do their jobs.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Did they fail you, yes, Chief Kristin Crowley.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
The question is about the Santa Inez reservoir being empty.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
There's been a lot of questions about that. Sure.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
So my stance on this is when a firefighter comes
up to a hydrant, we expect there's going to be water.
We don't control the water supply. Our firefighters are there
to protect lives and property and to make sure that
we're properly trained and equipped.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
That's my position on this.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Now, she says that firefighters were not made aware at
the Santa Inez Reservoir was even empty, and Gavin Newsom's
answer was, well, that's a local one.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Here.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Listen, Sandra Endo, one of our angers wants to know
if the department is advised that the Santa Ynez Reservoir.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Was going to be emptied, were you aware that there
was no water there? No, we weren't aware of that.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
They don't have to advise you, not that I'm aware
of now, So you had no idea that there wasn't
need such needed resources.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
No, we weren't.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I mean, kudos to the fire chief for being honest. Furthermore,
in that same press conference, she was very clear that
the LA Fire Department is underfunded and understaffed, and we
now know that she had been warning the mayor not
to cut the budget and that they needed it. They
only had half the staff that they would need for
a wildfire such as the one they've experienced out there.
(21:49):
And if you look at the pictures, I mean now
we have over twelve thousand, you know, structures that have
burned on the ground.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Listen.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
I have also requested multiple budgets interim budget to show
how understaffed, under resource and underfunded the LAFD is. So
with that, also, we have clear data that shows the
LFD needs more help. We need sixty two more fire stations.
(22:17):
These reports also show that we've had a fifty five
percent increase in overall call volume since twenty ten. And
guess what we're doing it with less firefighters.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
You can't make it up.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
And now the biggest spear two as this now comes
to an end, is potential looting that's going to be
taking place in these areas. Joel Pollock and John conn
of Breitbart here to talk about their home California, where
they live and what has happened over the past week
and what's happened to this One's beautiful state now riddled
(22:48):
with fire and ash because of woke policies. In part
the sad reality is John himself lost his home. There
was nothing left. I saw an ex post of his
the only there was nothing recognizable pretty much in his
house when he went back. Welcome both of you to
the program. And John con I'm so sorry that you
(23:10):
lost your home. I don't even know what to say.
It just is so this was so preventable and predictable.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Santa Ana.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Wins are predictable, but the need for fire hydrants is
one oh one.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
The need for a full reservoir is basic, right.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
You know, Son's truly you know, I might have a
different perspective on this, you know, because I'm right in
the middle of it. But we're all news guys, and
it's really interesting to look at a story like this.
We always see it through the lens of the news
and it's always over there. It's never you never think
you're going to be part of the story. And as
someone Joe and I are both.
Speaker 7 (23:47):
Part of this story.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
And to drive through our neighborhoods, you've never seen anything
quite like it. And I'm having sort of an odd
reaction to it, because I know that they're going to
be investigations and it should be investigated, why this, how
this could possibly have happened. But for me personally, I'm
not at the anger stage. I'm not sure I'm even
(24:09):
going to get there, because when you see all the devastation,
and I can just tell you the level of grief
and loss that I feel is just beyond anything I
can comprehend it. When you see all the other people
and all the destruction and all those houses, and you
know they.
Speaker 7 (24:25):
Have that grief as well.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
And so for me personally, I'm sort of focusing on
the positive things that could come out of this and
all the love and the outpouring of prayers and everything
that Joel and I are receiving specifically, and I'm sure
everybody else is, but it's you know, I think this,
you know, clearly needs to be investigated, but you know
we're you know, we're strong people, and we're going to
(24:47):
get back up and move forward from it.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Gavin said that he would streamline the process and allowed
the little build back quickly. But we had Jillian Michael's
on the program her home burn of the ground in
twenty eighteen. It took well over a year year and
a half for her to get the permitting to build
back up. It was taking Susanne Summers and her husband
seven plus years to rebuild their Malibu home. I don't
(25:11):
even think they've even got back to rebuilding it. All right,
quick break right back more with Joel Pollock, John Kahn
on the other side as they talk about the devastation
John losing his home in these California wildfires, Joel almost
losing his home. Eight hundred and nine to four one.
Shawn is on number one, So get to your calls.
Coming up straight ahead on this Monday, one week from today,
(25:32):
Inauguration Day, we will be in DC.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Who would want to miss this? I we can take you.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Now with Joel Pollock and John Connor Breidbart. John lost
his home in these California wildfires, and Joel nearly lost
his home. Every home around where he lives was burned
to the ground. Joel, my understanding is while you didn't
lose your home, a lot of homes near you did
burn to the ground.
Speaker 7 (25:55):
That's right, Sean. I arrived on Wednesday in the middle
of the fire, once it became barely safe enough to
start to go into the Pacific Palisades, and I saw
my home was still standing, but the fence was on
fire and there was no running water at all. So
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I grabbed a bucket and I dipped it into the
gutter where water was running downhill from homes that had
been destroyed further into the neighborhood, and I started pouring
water on the fence and on my neighbor's fence.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
What century are we living in here? I'm just checking.
Speaker 7 (26:36):
Yeah. Well, when government news, Simon said, locals, we'll figure
it out. This is how we figured it out. A
couple of guys and men from the neighborhood showed up
in a truck. They jumped out, We found two more buckets.
We formed an assembly line, and we put out the
fires on my fence and my neighbor's fence, and we
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helped save the neighborhood. But I have to tell tell
you most of the neighborhood is destroyed, and it's yesterday.
John came into the palisade with me, and he actually
noticed there was smoke a couple of doors down at
one of the other houses that was still standing. So
he helped save the neighborhood too, And when I got
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to my on Wednesday, I saw that the garden hose
was fully extended across my yard, which means that some
neighbor had tried to put out the fire on his
own or her own. And we're all looking out for
each other or It's an incredible spirit of togetherness and strength,
but it is absolutely devastating because when I stand on
(27:42):
my street corner now, my house is the only one standing,
and every other house on the corner is gone. The
seven houses that are the first houses on my street survived,
but almost nothing else did. And the school next door
that my kids go who has been destroyed except for
(28:02):
the murals that the kids painted. They are murals of
ringbows and doves, which you know, has that biblical imagery
of Noah after the flood, and God's promised not to
destroy the world again. So we're taking hope in those
little symbols. But I've had public officials who I'm supposed
to interview crying on my shoulder and asking me what
they should do, and what John's saying is right. We
(28:23):
do have to find the answers, and we do have
to talk about what went wrong. Honestly, But we also
have to support those who now have responsibilities to rebuild.
And I have told them, if you do the right thing,
you're a full support of the community.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Well, I also think, and I know Donald Trump pretty well,
that I think that he's going to understand the devastation
of the people out there.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
You know.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
But while that's the case, you know, Gavin Newsom is
what organizing a state effort to trump prove the state
of California to the tune of fifty million lawsuits, you know.
And I was out there in two thousand and nine,
and I went to the San Joaquin Valley where they
(29:08):
there was thousands and thousands of acres of farmland that
nobody could farm on because all of the water was
being saved for the Delta smelt. Now we learn that
waters being portant to the Pacific every year from northern
California instead of funneled down into the reservoirs when and
by the way, they were supposed to build five of
them that they had a referendum in twenty fourteen. You
(29:30):
have the fire department budget cut, You have hydrants that
don't work, you have reservoirs that are empty, You have
half the manpower that they fired. Chief said that they
would have needed months ago, and nobody wants to take responsibility.
And in the meantime, you know, now you're at the
point John that you you have to rebuild your life.
(29:50):
I admire your fighting spirit, but I mean your life
is completely turned upside down right now now.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
It is. But you know, some as we all know,
the American spirit is to get up and keep flighting.
And there's nothing. The houses are gone, the neighborhood's gone.
This is a town I grew up in and my
brother's house miraculously made it, but everything else is gone,
and you kind of, you know, for me, it's just
(30:20):
is what's next. I don't know. There's a lot of fear.
There's a lot of grief, but you know, we get
up and we keep going. And when I found, like
like you mentioned earlier, I found an American flag picture
water picture in the rubble of my house. It was
the only thing I could identify, and I thought, Okay,
well that's the fining spirit of Americans. And I'm going
(30:41):
to help anybody I can and receive, you know, the
prayers and amazing thoughts that everybody's reached out. People I
don't even know and in one day at a time.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Yeah, well, you have our prayers with you, our thoughts
with you and all the victims in this case. And
it's so frustrating as an outsider to know that all
of this, my view, was preventable, you know, practicing the
science of forestry. Maybe we'll start there. We do appreciate
your time, John con Joel Pollock, Thank you both. Prayers
(31:14):
for both your families, your neighbors, and everybody in California.
And the next three days are going to be very telling.
Let's see if they learned anything and whether or not
they're going to do a better job. I don't have
a lot of confidence in that. Thank you both, and
we'll we'll update this story is needed over time.
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