February 25, 2025 • 31 mins
Miranda Devine, author of THE BIG GUY: How a President and His Son Sold Out, America, is here with her opinion on the legacy media shakeups, the reaction of far left lunatics like Rachel Maddow and the uncovering of bureaucratic mismanagement by DOGE that has every democrat running for cover. One of DOGE’s tech experts states it could be as much as $100 billion in tax payer funds that have been misappropriated, why are democrats against that?
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It is eight hundred and nine four one sewn. If
you want to be a part of the program. Well,
she's back right now. Favorite congresswoman who speaks for the
radical extreme Democrats in Congress is apparently going into Congress.
You have a message for Elon Musk. I bet most
of you in your mind's eye right now can guess
(00:24):
what she probably says.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Let's play it. If you could speak directly to Elon Musk,
what would you say?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
That's it?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
You got him, he really did. I'm sure his feelings
are hurt. It's just they will never get it. I
did this this interview for a website called Mediaite, and
maybe we'll post it on Hannity social media. But and
I explain now why I said in seven that journalism
is dead, and then after this election, legacy media is dead.
(00:58):
And they are and in large part because they get
everything wrong and they have a political agenda and they
light to their audiences and as a result, they have
lost all trust from the people that used to watch them.
Interesting to watch, you know. Conspiracy theorist, extraordinary, not exactly
(01:21):
a truth teller in her own right, went along with
the Russian Live. We played her yesterday saying that if
you get the shot, you're not going to get COVID,
and if you get the shot, you're not going to
infect others, going along with government talking points. Rachel Maddow
angry over the firing of Joy Reid at MSDNC and
how it was mistake and even inferring it was related
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to race.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
In all of the jobs I have had, in all
of the years I have been alive, there is no
colleague for whom I have had more affection and more
respect than Joy read I love everything about her. I
have learned so much from her. I have so much
more to learn from her. I do not want to
lose her as a colleague here at MSNBC, and personally,
I think it is a bad mistake to let her
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walk out the door. It is not my call and
I understand that, but that's what I think.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
I will tell you.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
It is also unnerving to see that on a network
where we've got two count of two non white hosts
in primetime, both of our non white hosts in primetime
are losing their shows, as is Katie Fang on the Weekend,
and that feels worse than bad no matter who replaces.
Now that feels indefensible, and I do not defend it.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
So who is she talking about? Enjoy reading?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
And look what they do over there has no impact
on my life, to be very honest, and I only
get has impact on anybody else's life because if it did,
they would have done a lot better in this election
because they were deep part in the paint with fascist
racist Hitler Mussolini. I mean, I even got a cut
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of joy read Fascism is already here, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
But just who is she defending? Let's listen, and the.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
Potito family certainly deserve answers and justice. But the way
this story has captivated the nation has many wondering why
not the same media attention when people of color go missing? Well,
the answer actually has a name, missing white woman syndrome.
But I do hope that as a senator, you'll prove
those who call you a token wrong. Gotta love the
Tim Scott standing there to provide the patina of diversity
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over that round of words at a basketful of words.
Guarantee you if that was a Black Lives Matter protest.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
In DC, there.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Would already be people shackled, arrested, or dead. So for
so many reasons, being a freeloader and a selfish and
disrespectful one, and for misappropriating Black vernacular for misogenistic purposes.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Elon Musk is the absolute worst.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
If somehow they managed to stumble into the Supreme Court,
do any of you guys trust Uncle Clarence and Amy
Cony Barrett and those guys to actually follow the.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Letter of the law.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
No, all right, can even ever begin to read out
tonight with a message to Republicans.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Okay, we get it.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
COVID is the precious and you love it. Now are
we have a Republican party that not only at its base,
is becoming putinite pro pudent.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
This fourth brag.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
Renaming falls under the performative, But the other half, which
is far more serious, sure looks like an attempt to
resegregate the military.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
And I thought you would go astronaut keeping it real,
He to me, would have been the safest, most conventionally safe.
Pick white, super white, like you know, mayonnaise sandwich on
wonderbread white from the you know, from a border state.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
Similar similarities to what happened in Germany and what's happening
now in America are just undeniable. History may not repeat verbatim,
but it sure does.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Rhyme.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Make your own dinner, Mega, make your own sandwiches, wipe
your own tears, troll amongst yourselves with Elon, and leave
us alone. You got your heart's desire, the president you
dreamed of and worship instead of Jesus. And this time
you didn't even have to storm the capital, smash the windows,
or try to kill police officers or issue death threats
to bool workers. See, when you are in the midst
of a crisis, and specifically a crisis of democracy, how
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do you resist when fascism isn't just coming, it's already here.
So what if anything can you do about it?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
All right, joining us to analyze what I believe is
the death of legacy media and the frankly, the end
of the modern Democratic Party is it has now embraced
radicalism and an agenda that favors the rights of illegals
over the safety of Americans and men's rights. They champion
men's rights to play in women's sports, and of course
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they want to justify tens and tens and tens what
will be hundreds of billions of dollars in waste, fraud, abuse,
and corruptions spent abroad to advance their radicalism without the
transparency you would expect from Congress anyway. As our friend
Miranda Divine, author of the number one best seller of
The Big Guy, How a President and his Son Sold
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Out America? Miranda, do you agree with me legacy media
is dead? Do you agree with me that what we
are witnessing with in Congress is you know, they now
have the lowest approval rating ever is kind of the
end and the death of the old Democratic Party too.
Speaker 7 (06:20):
Yeah, Hi, Sean, Look, I think what I would say
is not necessarily legacy media, because I guess that's what
we are at the New York Post and the Fox
News and so on. I think propaganda media is dead.
I think that whether it be MSNBC or the New
York Times, Washington Post, the clock is ticking for them
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when they just continue to gaslight and lie to their
audiences because their audiences are wise to them. And we
saw that at the last election, when suddenly people realized
that you know, Donald Trump was not hitler, that the
lawfair against him was completely unjust and unjustified, and that.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
You know, they looked at the.
Speaker 7 (07:11):
Assassination attempt against him in Butler and the way he responded,
and they thought, hey, that's not the guy that I've
been told that Donald Trump is by my favorite media organs,
And so they switched off. And you see, you just
played all that litany of disasters from Joy Reid. Her audience,
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like all her saddlemate's audience at MSNBC, has been cut
by a half. They've lost half their audience since the elections.
And that's because the air audience, even those people who've
been brainwashed and propagandized for years by Joy Reid's particularly
toxic brand of poison and Rachel meadows slightly more sophisticated
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brand of poison, they won't. The audience woke up and said,
you aligned to if we're done with you, And I
think that is lethal. The same goes for the Democratic Party,
because of course MSNBC is just a mouthpiece for the
Democratic Party and they're a washed up outfit. Unless they
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change direction, they show no sign of doing that, they're dead.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Well. I would make an exception.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
There are a few legacy media outlets like the New
York Post where where I think you're the top columnist,
or we'll certainly invite at the top to me and
one of the best authors and investigative reporters in the country,
and you tell truth, and that is a rare exception
in legacy media. Okay, I would argue that new media
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began with talk radio, it extended out into Fox News,
and because Fox is so distinctly different, I don't really
count it among legacy media. And we're fairly relatively speaking.
I've made an observation and then this interview that I
gave to media that I think the model of Fox
News and talk radio is going to be studied for
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decades and decades and decades to come because of what.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
A phenomenon it was.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
And trust me, they gave us no shot of success
when we started.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
We were laughed at.
Speaker 7 (09:21):
Yes, that's so true, and yes I agree. I mean
New York Posts you could not say it's anything but
legacy because it's the oldest newspaper in the country. But
I think what Fox News did and what was it's
sort of brilliance apart from you know, great packaging and
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much pressure, which really was a pioneering venture, but also
it just gave voice or was middle of the road,
you know, all the news that fit to print, which
is used to be the New York Times motto. It
was fair and balanced, and that was the Fox News motto.
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And you know, you put it up against CNN or
MSNBC any day and you will get different voices. You
get Democrats on Fox News. Obviously the preponderance is conservatives,
but there still are democratic voices. And that makes it
more interesting because you see the ying and the yang
and not treating the audience like a bunch of idiots
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that are brainwashed. We trust the audience to, you know,
understand an issue and make up their own minds. And
I think that's where MSNBC goes so wrong, because they
just shove their viewpoint down their audience's gullet and they
cannot abide any kind of you know, difference. CNN's a
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little different. I think they're trying hard lately to change
the diet a bit. They've got a couple of Republicans
on there, who who in their panels. They're obviously outnumbered,
but they managed to hold their own. So I think
that's showing to see an audiences that.
Speaker 8 (11:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
I just saw a clip of fake Jake Tapper and
he goes on a rant against Donald Trump and the
guy considers himself quoted journalist. I think that's the whole
premise is is they consider themselves newspeople and journalists. And
I make a very clear distinction about who I am
and what my job description is and what I do.
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I'm a talk show host. Yes, I'm a member of
the press, and we do straight news. I can produce
thousands of hours of it, investigative reporting. I can produce
thousands of hours of that. We do opinion. I'm up front.
I was very clear with the audience like I am.
Every election, I voted for Donald Trump and advocated for him,
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so on the editorial page, and then we do culture
and sports and other issues of the day. I consider
myself an entire newspaper and as a member of the press.
They claim their journalists, they're not journalists, Miranda. They lie
about what they are and what they do.
Speaker 7 (12:10):
Yeah, I think that once you've lost your way, I
don't think that you perhaps should be calling yourself the journalist.
But on the other hand, I think, you know, journalisms
are pretty broad church and it has been produced, particularly
since the Trump era began in twenty sixteen. I think
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a lot of people like the deep state, the intelligence community,
a lot of journalists who had forged relationships with various spooks.
They all lost their minds when Donald Trump came along.
A journalists decided to remember the New York Times famously,
the editor said, well, you know, these are different times,
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and we can't be objective when it comes to Donald Trump.
And I think the same thing happened with the FBI
and the CIA and so on. They just decided that
they were not going to obey the commander in chief
because it was Donald Trump. They were going to go
off on their own little frolics. And you know, many
disasters ensued until Donald Trump came back to try and
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take control of the government again. So it's always a
dangerous path. And you know, their excuse was, especially the journalists,
was that Donald Trump was an existential threat to quote democracy,
whatever that means. And that was their justification for breaking
every single rule in journalism, lying to people being completely biased,
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only following certain stories, censoring other stories like the laptop
from Now.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
You know, that's not journalism.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
They showed none of the normal curiosity that journalism is
meant to show. And you know, I'm an opinion journalist,
I write opinion. I'm on the opinion page, I'm perfectly
entitled to only give one side. But when you're on
the news pages, and when I write news stories, which
I do, I make sure that I give both sides.
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It's a very different genre, and there should be a
difference between when you are a straight news journalist and
when you're an opinion journalist. And I think for a
lot of them, they've lost that objectivity. And certainly you
see it in the news pages of once respected publications
like the New York Times, in the Washington Post. You
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could read some of their news stories as if they
were opinion columns.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Oh well, nobody does it better than you. You thread
that needle perfectly, Miranda Devine. We always appreciate you. Thank
you so much for being one of us. Eight hundred
and ninety four one. Shawn is our number. If you
want to be a part of the program. Quick break
right back. We'll continue. All right, Let's get to our
busy telephone, shall we. All right, we have Ray in Canada.
I'm very unhappy with Canada right now, and I want
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Canada in the US to be the best allies ever
as we have been for you know, however, many years
one hundred and fifty of plus years, and right now
I feel that the Canadian people booing our national anthem
threatening I saw this article yesterday threatening boycotts. Well, we're
not going to come to America. Okay, they have what
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forty two million in their population America was three hundred
and forty million. And I've never considered, never supported a
boycott in my life, but if this gets legs, I
might consider it anyway.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Ray and Canada, How are you, sir, great John, how
are you good? I'm glad? What's on your mind today?
Speaker 3 (15:41):
All the boycott's already begun. It began be poor the
organized boycotts. People are buying. Canadian people aren't going to
Florida in their trips, and they're just looking to sort
of abrogate America basically and say, you know what, you've
disrespected us to this point and we have to respond.
I mean I booing the anthem, I think nobody should
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do anybody's anthem. That's disrespect for somebody.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
So you do you support this boycott of people traveling
to America?
Speaker 3 (16:12):
I think people have to decide. But yeah, if they
don't feel comfortable going to America because of this, then
they shouldn't go There are other destinations they can go to,
and it is okay.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
So when I tell this audience has about half your
population of this radio show, and if I tell my
audience that I'm supporting an America boycott of Canada, you're
okay with that?
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Well, Trump is already dooing.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Well, you don't like it.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
You wouldn't like it because there's three hundred and forty
plus million Americans and you have a population of forty
two million Canadians. And who would be more likely? Who
would be hurt worse by that boycott?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
War?
Speaker 3 (16:51):
The number one visitor to Florida is Canadian citizens going
to Florida.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Who would be hurt more? Because there are plenty of
Americans to go to Montreal and Quebec and Ontario and
all sorts of places over Canada.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Who who? In the end, do you think it's hurt
more Canada or the US?
Speaker 3 (17:11):
I think we both get hurt with this, this whole
thing that's going on.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
But forty two million versus three hundred and forty million,
you're gonna get hurt worse. You're hurting yourself by doing this. Now,
let me tell you why I have issues with Canada,
and you tell me if you if these are legitimate concerns.
You do know that Canada already, prior to Donald Trump
winning this election, puts tariffs on American products.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
You are aware of.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
That, right, absolutely yes, and we have.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
To okay, okay, And you are aware that Canada has
done nothing to stop you know, the inflow, the influx
of illegal immigrants and securing their northern border.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
You do all that, right, absolutely untrue. We put a
one point three billion towards that.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Now only only only recently have you stepped up enforcement
and a military presence on the border, and that's after
Donald Trump threatened the tariffs, which he might go through
with next week. You do know that Canada has not
paid its fair share like America has to NATO.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Right, I agree with you wholeheartedly. We have a twenty
thirty point where we're trying to reach that two percent goal.
It's already been.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Okay, So Canada is not paying their fair share.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
And you do know that probably the greatest defense for Canada,
if God forbid, something ever happens and you guys are
in trouble, would be the United States of America.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
You are aware of that.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Oh, it's always has been Absolutely, we have Nora D,
we have protected We need America to do that, but
America needs to do that as well. They're own protected.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
America has already been doing all of this.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
And then in comes Donald Trump and he's talked about
something called reciprocal tariffs, and he's basically saying to Canada,
pay your fair share for NATO alling you out on it,
do a better job securing your border because we're being
impacted greatly by it, and it's partly your responsibility too.
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And he is saying that if you're gonna put traye,
if you're gonna put tariffs on us, we'll have to
slap tariffs on you. And if you don't do these
three things, that's really all he's asking, then it's going
to result in America but is slapping a big fat
tariff on Canada. Now, do you think that he's being
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unfair in saying that.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Why tariff you have tariffs for like you're farming, for
farming for your agriculture is to.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Protect agriculture poultry that you you won't import any seeds
from the United States. Uh so there's an outright ban
of certain products. Yeah, I mean I think that's kind
of unfair, don't.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
You don't you think, Sean, that a country needs to
protect the ability for it to feed its people. That
if if we don't protect our farmers in our industries,
the Americans would because of your size. If you said,
three hundred forty to forty million Tyson farms who could
come in here and dump dump all kinds of products
on us, destroyer farming, and we have the inability to
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feed ourselves.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Nobody wants to hurt.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Listen, if my goal for the US and Canada, just
to be very clear is I want us to be
good friends and neighbors.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
But it's a two way street.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
And I think that these three specific areas where Donald
Trump has complaining, you're not pushing back, You're acknowledging these
legitimate concerns, and that Canada probably could do a better
job in terms of reciprocity.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Oh absolutely, I think you're right on. We need to protect.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
So why doesn't Little Justin then just sit down with
the president Because he's dumb, he's done, he's done well,
he is done, and he's kind of dumb too. I'd
argue he's both. And I'm not a big a Little
Justin but I'm just saying it's frustrating to Americans when
they learn these things, and Donald Trump, unlike every other politician,
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just refuses to let America be taken advantage of. I mean,
on top of all of that, your national security is
almost entirely dependent on the goodwill of the United States military,
and that is a really, really great benefit to your
friendship and partnership. So for all the people in Canada
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are friends in Canada. Because I'm not willing to go
there yet that might be considering this boycott effort against
the United States. Understand that America is going to respond
in kind, and I might even join them, because I
think it's so unfair and frankly unappreciative of what we do,
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and I think as part of a good friendship, I
think that movement needs to stop.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
I don't disagree with you. I think it's I think
remember that the security of Canada benefits the security of
the United States. You need a protected north as much
as we need to protect it north because if Russia
and China start to invade the northwest past but.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
We're doing all the protecting for the most part. That's
the problem. We're bearing the brunt of it.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
No, No, it's shared. We're we're we were all we
have an agreement on new icebreakers. We haven't. Nora had
to share. There is shared.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I agree that there is some shared.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
There is there, there is some contribution, but the overwhelming
majority is provided by the United States military.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
It's just a fact.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Can I can I tell you like, I don't disagree
with both.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Listen, I want to get along.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
If I was Canada, the maybe maybe the one point
of irritation you would have with Trump you haven't brought
up yet, and that is when he says, well, Canada
should be the fifty first state. Well, and what he's
let me Let me tell you why I don't want
Canada the fifty first state, because you're too liberal for me.
You know, I mean, I know you. You have your
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single payer healthcare that most Canadians are stuck with. I
know plenty of Canadians that don't like the system. And
I know many wealthy Canadians that will come to the
United States for medical care because they can't wait the
six or eight months that they'd have to wait to
get the treatment that the government so quote guaranteed them.
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But I think the better answer is I think that
I would prefer the Canadians look objectively at whether or
not they're they're they're being good partners on their and
first and the benefits they have from the United States,
and maybe it's time for them to step up as
it relates to these these three issues. And I think
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if they do, I think all will all will go away.
I think, I think, and then we'll go back to
being best friends again.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
I think I know what it's like two siblings wedding
older brother, younger brother. You know, you're getting on my
nerves and right now you're having a time out right now.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
But honestly, look, Donald Trump is calling you guys out
for things that you're acknowledging our work in favor of Canada,
and you're kind of justifying on the on the tariff deal.
I'm a free trader, free and fair trader, and this
isn't free and fair when you're putting tariffs on us
and you don't expect tariffs back on you.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
But the man that negotiated the USNC is saying that
it's a foolish agreement. He basically said, to anybody of
any of these agreements, they're fool But he negotiated it
and find it so okay.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
But there's still gaps in the coverage of you. Well,
so I would argue that it's time for Canada to
do a better job at the border, pay their fair
share for NATO, and I would have free and fair
trade across the board, no tariffs on anybody, and we'd
get along like you know, siblings, the way we should.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
It's not possible. I mean, we have to have to protect.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Certainly you you're you're protecting your you're protecting your industries,
and if the United States does it back, it's unfair.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
The United States has tariffs on softwood lumber as well.
There's terroifts that are ingreened by the States to protect certain.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
That's what reciprocal That's what reciprocal tariffs is going to
be about. But the problem is, I think that the
Canadian economy is more reliant on the US economy than
vice versa. I don't think that the In the end,
I'd rather not have this conflict. In the end, I
think it's in everyone's best interest to resolve these issues
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peacefully and as friends. And and I'll even tip my
hat Canada won the hockey game is one of the
closest best games I've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
It was a great game. Actually, the game on Saturday
with the three fights was the best game I ever
saw that.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
It was great.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Nine seconds in boom, gloves are off, Let's go game on.
I loved every minute of it. All right, listen, Just
something to think about. And when you talk to your
Canadian friends, know that in the hearts of Americans, we
like the people in Canada, and we we want to
get along with Canada. But America does have legitimate arguments
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back here.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Okay, just still President Trump, that that our kindness and
our politeness doesn't mean we're weak. We're still strong and
we believe in our country and we believe it.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
No, but you got to be just be fair. I'm
not asking you not to be strong.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
We want strong neighbors exactly, but don't be But don't
take advantage of us either.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
No, I know. But Indiana all right, in the long term,
And it was pleasure to talk to you. By the way,
Katie is a wonderful lady of your call screen of fantastic.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Oh you're sucking up to the call screen and I
get it, all right, don't force me to do something
I've never done in my life or career because I
don't like them, and that's called the boycotts. But you
guys are starting one and I don't. I don't want
to see this thing at legs. And if it does,
there's going to be a lot of angry America and
this thing is going to get way out of control
and it won't help Canada.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
I can tell you that.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Alright, quick break right back, more of your calls eight
hundred nine one, Shawn. As we continue.
Speaker 9 (27:14):
In the world gives you insanity, he gives you common
sense solutions.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
This country needs a course correction.
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three hours a day.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Hi, we continue now with our busy phones. Eight hundred
nine one, Shawn is our number. Let's say hi to
Ron in South Carolina.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
What's up Ron? We only have a minute though, Ron.
How are you?
Speaker 8 (27:44):
Hey, Sean, We're doing great. It's good to talk to you.
Just wanted to ask a quick question and get your
comment on it. With all that does is fining, with
all the fraud that's going on, do you believe that
there's going to be prosecution the individuals responsible? And also
I wanted to say too that I know in the interview,
(28:07):
President Trump said that what mister Musk is doing for
our nation as a thankless job. But I think I
speak for a lot of people when I just shout
out to him, thank you, mister Musk very much, and
appreciate all you're doing.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Those were some great.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Interviews you gave there.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
I appreciate it, and I'm thankful to mister Musk, who
and as he said to me, uh, they're not going
to get everything right, and and when they get it wrong,
they're going to fix it very quickly. But you know,
there's no room for error in a world of Trump arrangement,
rage and insanity.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
I'll tell you that.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
But you know what, if we don't do it now
for the sake of our kids and grandkids and for
the sake of American taxpayers, this is probably the only
opportunity we have, you know. And everyone goes, well, what
about my friend's one job, Well, if they were working
for USAID, that was not a job that ever should
have been created, because that money never should have been
spent that way. Anyway, I appreciate to call my friend,
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you want to be a part of the program. Well,
she's back right now. Favorite congresswoman who speaks for the
radical extreme Democrats in Congress is apparently going into Congress.
You have a message for Elon Musk. I bet most
of you in your mind's eye right now can guess
(00:24):
what she probably says.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Let's play it. If you could speak directly to Elon Musk,
what would you say?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
That's it?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
You got him, he really did. I'm sure his feelings
are hurt. It's just they will never get it. I
did this this interview for a website called Mediaite, and
maybe we'll post it on Hannity social media. But and
I explain now why I said in seven that journalism
is dead, and then after this election, legacy media is dead.
(00:58):
And they are and in large part because they get
everything wrong and they have a political agenda and they
light to their audiences and as a result, they have
lost all trust from the people that used to watch them.
Interesting to watch, you know. Conspiracy theorist, extraordinary, not exactly
(01:21):
a truth teller in her own right, went along with
the Russian Live. We played her yesterday saying that if
you get the shot, you're not going to get COVID,
and if you get the shot, you're not going to
infect others, going along with government talking points. Rachel Maddow
angry over the firing of Joy Reid at MSDNC and
how it was mistake and even inferring it was related
(01:43):
to race.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
In all of the jobs I have had, in all
of the years I have been alive, there is no
colleague for whom I have had more affection and more
respect than Joy read I love everything about her. I
have learned so much from her. I have so much
more to learn from her. I do not want to
lose her as a colleague here at MSNBC, and personally,
I think it is a bad mistake to let her
(02:07):
walk out the door. It is not my call and
I understand that, but that's what I think.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
I will tell you.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
It is also unnerving to see that on a network
where we've got two count of two non white hosts
in primetime, both of our non white hosts in primetime
are losing their shows, as is Katie Fang on the Weekend,
and that feels worse than bad no matter who replaces.
Now that feels indefensible, and I do not defend it.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
So who is she talking about? Enjoy reading?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
And look what they do over there has no impact
on my life, to be very honest, and I only
get has impact on anybody else's life because if it did,
they would have done a lot better in this election
because they were deep part in the paint with fascist
racist Hitler Mussolini. I mean, I even got a cut
(02:59):
of joy read Fascism is already here, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
But just who is she defending? Let's listen, and the.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
Potito family certainly deserve answers and justice. But the way
this story has captivated the nation has many wondering why
not the same media attention when people of color go missing? Well,
the answer actually has a name, missing white woman syndrome.
But I do hope that as a senator, you'll prove
those who call you a token wrong. Gotta love the
Tim Scott standing there to provide the patina of diversity
(03:28):
over that round of words at a basketful of words.
Guarantee you if that was a Black Lives Matter protest.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
In DC, there.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Would already be people shackled, arrested, or dead. So for
so many reasons, being a freeloader and a selfish and
disrespectful one, and for misappropriating Black vernacular for misogenistic purposes.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Elon Musk is the absolute worst.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
If somehow they managed to stumble into the Supreme Court,
do any of you guys trust Uncle Clarence and Amy
Cony Barrett and those guys to actually follow the.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Letter of the law.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
No, all right, can even ever begin to read out
tonight with a message to Republicans.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Okay, we get it.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
COVID is the precious and you love it. Now are
we have a Republican party that not only at its base,
is becoming putinite pro pudent.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
This fourth brag.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
Renaming falls under the performative, But the other half, which
is far more serious, sure looks like an attempt to
resegregate the military.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
And I thought you would go astronaut keeping it real,
He to me, would have been the safest, most conventionally safe.
Pick white, super white, like you know, mayonnaise sandwich on
wonderbread white from the you know, from a border state.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
Similar similarities to what happened in Germany and what's happening
now in America are just undeniable. History may not repeat verbatim,
but it sure does.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Rhyme.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Make your own dinner, Mega, make your own sandwiches, wipe
your own tears, troll amongst yourselves with Elon, and leave
us alone. You got your heart's desire, the president you
dreamed of and worship instead of Jesus. And this time
you didn't even have to storm the capital, smash the windows,
or try to kill police officers or issue death threats
to bool workers. See, when you are in the midst
of a crisis, and specifically a crisis of democracy, how
(05:09):
do you resist when fascism isn't just coming, it's already here.
So what if anything can you do about it?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
All right, joining us to analyze what I believe is
the death of legacy media and the frankly, the end
of the modern Democratic Party is it has now embraced
radicalism and an agenda that favors the rights of illegals
over the safety of Americans and men's rights. They champion
men's rights to play in women's sports, and of course
(05:39):
they want to justify tens and tens and tens what
will be hundreds of billions of dollars in waste, fraud, abuse,
and corruptions spent abroad to advance their radicalism without the
transparency you would expect from Congress anyway. As our friend
Miranda Divine, author of the number one best seller of
The Big Guy, How a President and his Son Sold
(06:00):
Out America? Miranda, do you agree with me legacy media
is dead? Do you agree with me that what we
are witnessing with in Congress is you know, they now
have the lowest approval rating ever is kind of the
end and the death of the old Democratic Party too.
Speaker 7 (06:20):
Yeah, Hi, Sean, Look, I think what I would say
is not necessarily legacy media, because I guess that's what
we are at the New York Post and the Fox
News and so on. I think propaganda media is dead.
I think that whether it be MSNBC or the New
York Times, Washington Post, the clock is ticking for them
(06:44):
when they just continue to gaslight and lie to their
audiences because their audiences are wise to them. And we
saw that at the last election, when suddenly people realized
that you know, Donald Trump was not hitler, that the
lawfair against him was completely unjust and unjustified, and that.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
You know, they looked at the.
Speaker 7 (07:11):
Assassination attempt against him in Butler and the way he responded,
and they thought, hey, that's not the guy that I've
been told that Donald Trump is by my favorite media organs,
And so they switched off. And you see, you just
played all that litany of disasters from Joy Reid. Her audience,
(07:33):
like all her saddlemate's audience at MSNBC, has been cut
by a half. They've lost half their audience since the elections.
And that's because the air audience, even those people who've
been brainwashed and propagandized for years by Joy Reid's particularly
toxic brand of poison and Rachel meadows slightly more sophisticated
(07:58):
brand of poison, they won't. The audience woke up and said,
you aligned to if we're done with you, And I
think that is lethal. The same goes for the Democratic Party,
because of course MSNBC is just a mouthpiece for the
Democratic Party and they're a washed up outfit. Unless they
(08:18):
change direction, they show no sign of doing that, they're dead.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Well. I would make an exception.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
There are a few legacy media outlets like the New
York Post where where I think you're the top columnist,
or we'll certainly invite at the top to me and
one of the best authors and investigative reporters in the country,
and you tell truth, and that is a rare exception
in legacy media. Okay, I would argue that new media
(08:48):
began with talk radio, it extended out into Fox News,
and because Fox is so distinctly different, I don't really
count it among legacy media. And we're fairly relatively speaking.
I've made an observation and then this interview that I
gave to media that I think the model of Fox
News and talk radio is going to be studied for
(09:11):
decades and decades and decades to come because of what.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
A phenomenon it was.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
And trust me, they gave us no shot of success
when we started.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
We were laughed at.
Speaker 7 (09:21):
Yes, that's so true, and yes I agree. I mean
New York Posts you could not say it's anything but
legacy because it's the oldest newspaper in the country. But
I think what Fox News did and what was it's
sort of brilliance apart from you know, great packaging and
(09:42):
much pressure, which really was a pioneering venture, but also
it just gave voice or was middle of the road,
you know, all the news that fit to print, which
is used to be the New York Times motto. It
was fair and balanced, and that was the Fox News motto.
(10:04):
And you know, you put it up against CNN or
MSNBC any day and you will get different voices. You
get Democrats on Fox News. Obviously the preponderance is conservatives,
but there still are democratic voices. And that makes it
more interesting because you see the ying and the yang
and not treating the audience like a bunch of idiots
(10:27):
that are brainwashed. We trust the audience to, you know,
understand an issue and make up their own minds. And
I think that's where MSNBC goes so wrong, because they
just shove their viewpoint down their audience's gullet and they
cannot abide any kind of you know, difference. CNN's a
(10:51):
little different. I think they're trying hard lately to change
the diet a bit. They've got a couple of Republicans
on there, who who in their panels. They're obviously outnumbered,
but they managed to hold their own. So I think
that's showing to see an audiences that.
Speaker 8 (11:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
I just saw a clip of fake Jake Tapper and
he goes on a rant against Donald Trump and the
guy considers himself quoted journalist. I think that's the whole
premise is is they consider themselves newspeople and journalists. And
I make a very clear distinction about who I am
and what my job description is and what I do.
(11:32):
I'm a talk show host. Yes, I'm a member of
the press, and we do straight news. I can produce
thousands of hours of it, investigative reporting. I can produce
thousands of hours of that. We do opinion. I'm up front.
I was very clear with the audience like I am.
Every election, I voted for Donald Trump and advocated for him,
(11:53):
so on the editorial page, and then we do culture
and sports and other issues of the day. I consider
myself an entire newspaper and as a member of the press.
They claim their journalists, they're not journalists, Miranda. They lie
about what they are and what they do.
Speaker 7 (12:10):
Yeah, I think that once you've lost your way, I
don't think that you perhaps should be calling yourself the journalist.
But on the other hand, I think, you know, journalisms
are pretty broad church and it has been produced, particularly
since the Trump era began in twenty sixteen. I think
(12:32):
a lot of people like the deep state, the intelligence community,
a lot of journalists who had forged relationships with various spooks.
They all lost their minds when Donald Trump came along.
A journalists decided to remember the New York Times famously,
the editor said, well, you know, these are different times,
(12:54):
and we can't be objective when it comes to Donald Trump.
And I think the same thing happened with the FBI
and the CIA and so on. They just decided that
they were not going to obey the commander in chief
because it was Donald Trump. They were going to go
off on their own little frolics. And you know, many
disasters ensued until Donald Trump came back to try and
(13:17):
take control of the government again. So it's always a
dangerous path. And you know, their excuse was, especially the journalists,
was that Donald Trump was an existential threat to quote democracy,
whatever that means. And that was their justification for breaking
every single rule in journalism, lying to people being completely biased,
(13:41):
only following certain stories, censoring other stories like the laptop
from Now.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
You know, that's not journalism.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
They showed none of the normal curiosity that journalism is
meant to show. And you know, I'm an opinion journalist,
I write opinion. I'm on the opinion page, I'm perfectly
entitled to only give one side. But when you're on
the news pages, and when I write news stories, which
I do, I make sure that I give both sides.
(14:10):
It's a very different genre, and there should be a
difference between when you are a straight news journalist and
when you're an opinion journalist. And I think for a
lot of them, they've lost that objectivity. And certainly you
see it in the news pages of once respected publications
like the New York Times, in the Washington Post. You
(14:33):
could read some of their news stories as if they
were opinion columns.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Oh well, nobody does it better than you. You thread
that needle perfectly, Miranda Devine. We always appreciate you. Thank
you so much for being one of us. Eight hundred
and ninety four one. Shawn is our number. If you
want to be a part of the program. Quick break
right back. We'll continue. All right, Let's get to our
busy telephone, shall we. All right, we have Ray in Canada.
I'm very unhappy with Canada right now, and I want
(15:00):
Canada in the US to be the best allies ever
as we have been for you know, however, many years
one hundred and fifty of plus years, and right now
I feel that the Canadian people booing our national anthem
threatening I saw this article yesterday threatening boycotts. Well, we're
not going to come to America. Okay, they have what
(15:20):
forty two million in their population America was three hundred
and forty million. And I've never considered, never supported a
boycott in my life, but if this gets legs, I
might consider it anyway.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Ray and Canada, How are you, sir, great John, how
are you good? I'm glad? What's on your mind today?
Speaker 3 (15:41):
All the boycott's already begun. It began be poor the
organized boycotts. People are buying. Canadian people aren't going to
Florida in their trips, and they're just looking to sort
of abrogate America basically and say, you know what, you've
disrespected us to this point and we have to respond.
I mean I booing the anthem, I think nobody should
(16:02):
do anybody's anthem. That's disrespect for somebody.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
So you do you support this boycott of people traveling
to America?
Speaker 3 (16:12):
I think people have to decide. But yeah, if they
don't feel comfortable going to America because of this, then
they shouldn't go There are other destinations they can go to,
and it is okay.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
So when I tell this audience has about half your
population of this radio show, and if I tell my
audience that I'm supporting an America boycott of Canada, you're
okay with that?
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Well, Trump is already dooing.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Well, you don't like it.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
You wouldn't like it because there's three hundred and forty
plus million Americans and you have a population of forty
two million Canadians. And who would be more likely? Who
would be hurt worse by that boycott?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
War?
Speaker 3 (16:51):
The number one visitor to Florida is Canadian citizens going
to Florida.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Who would be hurt more? Because there are plenty of
Americans to go to Montreal and Quebec and Ontario and
all sorts of places over Canada.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Who who? In the end, do you think it's hurt
more Canada or the US?
Speaker 3 (17:11):
I think we both get hurt with this, this whole
thing that's going on.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
But forty two million versus three hundred and forty million,
you're gonna get hurt worse. You're hurting yourself by doing this. Now,
let me tell you why I have issues with Canada,
and you tell me if you if these are legitimate concerns.
You do know that Canada already, prior to Donald Trump
winning this election, puts tariffs on American products.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
You are aware of.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
That, right, absolutely yes, and we have.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
To okay, okay, And you are aware that Canada has
done nothing to stop you know, the inflow, the influx
of illegal immigrants and securing their northern border.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
You do all that, right, absolutely untrue. We put a
one point three billion towards that.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Now only only only recently have you stepped up enforcement
and a military presence on the border, and that's after
Donald Trump threatened the tariffs, which he might go through
with next week. You do know that Canada has not
paid its fair share like America has to NATO.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Right, I agree with you wholeheartedly. We have a twenty
thirty point where we're trying to reach that two percent goal.
It's already been.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Okay, So Canada is not paying their fair share.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
And you do know that probably the greatest defense for Canada,
if God forbid, something ever happens and you guys are
in trouble, would be the United States of America.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
You are aware of that.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Oh, it's always has been Absolutely, we have Nora D,
we have protected We need America to do that, but
America needs to do that as well. They're own protected.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
America has already been doing all of this.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
And then in comes Donald Trump and he's talked about
something called reciprocal tariffs, and he's basically saying to Canada,
pay your fair share for NATO alling you out on it,
do a better job securing your border because we're being
impacted greatly by it, and it's partly your responsibility too.
(19:09):
And he is saying that if you're gonna put traye,
if you're gonna put tariffs on us, we'll have to
slap tariffs on you. And if you don't do these
three things, that's really all he's asking, then it's going
to result in America but is slapping a big fat
tariff on Canada. Now, do you think that he's being
(19:31):
unfair in saying that.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Why tariff you have tariffs for like you're farming, for
farming for your agriculture is to.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Protect agriculture poultry that you you won't import any seeds
from the United States. Uh so there's an outright ban
of certain products. Yeah, I mean I think that's kind
of unfair, don't.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
You don't you think, Sean, that a country needs to
protect the ability for it to feed its people. That
if if we don't protect our farmers in our industries,
the Americans would because of your size. If you said,
three hundred forty to forty million Tyson farms who could
come in here and dump dump all kinds of products
on us, destroyer farming, and we have the inability to
(20:15):
feed ourselves.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Nobody wants to hurt.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Listen, if my goal for the US and Canada, just
to be very clear is I want us to be
good friends and neighbors.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
But it's a two way street.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
And I think that these three specific areas where Donald
Trump has complaining, you're not pushing back, You're acknowledging these
legitimate concerns, and that Canada probably could do a better
job in terms of reciprocity.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Oh absolutely, I think you're right on. We need to protect.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
So why doesn't Little Justin then just sit down with
the president Because he's dumb, he's done, he's done well,
he is done, and he's kind of dumb too. I'd
argue he's both. And I'm not a big a Little
Justin but I'm just saying it's frustrating to Americans when
they learn these things, and Donald Trump, unlike every other politician,
(21:11):
just refuses to let America be taken advantage of. I mean,
on top of all of that, your national security is
almost entirely dependent on the goodwill of the United States military,
and that is a really, really great benefit to your
friendship and partnership. So for all the people in Canada
(21:33):
are friends in Canada. Because I'm not willing to go
there yet that might be considering this boycott effort against
the United States. Understand that America is going to respond
in kind, and I might even join them, because I
think it's so unfair and frankly unappreciative of what we do,
(21:54):
and I think as part of a good friendship, I
think that movement needs to stop.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
I don't disagree with you. I think it's I think
remember that the security of Canada benefits the security of
the United States. You need a protected north as much
as we need to protect it north because if Russia
and China start to invade the northwest past but.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
We're doing all the protecting for the most part. That's
the problem. We're bearing the brunt of it.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
No, No, it's shared. We're we're we were all we
have an agreement on new icebreakers. We haven't. Nora had
to share. There is shared.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I agree that there is some shared.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
There is there, there is some contribution, but the overwhelming
majority is provided by the United States military.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
It's just a fact.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Can I can I tell you like, I don't disagree
with both.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Listen, I want to get along.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
If I was Canada, the maybe maybe the one point
of irritation you would have with Trump you haven't brought
up yet, and that is when he says, well, Canada
should be the fifty first state. Well, and what he's
let me Let me tell you why I don't want
Canada the fifty first state, because you're too liberal for me.
You know, I mean, I know you. You have your
(23:05):
single payer healthcare that most Canadians are stuck with. I
know plenty of Canadians that don't like the system. And
I know many wealthy Canadians that will come to the
United States for medical care because they can't wait the
six or eight months that they'd have to wait to
get the treatment that the government so quote guaranteed them.
(23:25):
But I think the better answer is I think that
I would prefer the Canadians look objectively at whether or
not they're they're they're being good partners on their and
first and the benefits they have from the United States,
and maybe it's time for them to step up as
it relates to these these three issues. And I think
(23:47):
if they do, I think all will all will go away.
I think, I think, and then we'll go back to
being best friends again.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
I think I know what it's like two siblings wedding
older brother, younger brother. You know, you're getting on my
nerves and right now you're having a time out right now.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
But honestly, look, Donald Trump is calling you guys out
for things that you're acknowledging our work in favor of Canada,
and you're kind of justifying on the on the tariff deal.
I'm a free trader, free and fair trader, and this
isn't free and fair when you're putting tariffs on us
and you don't expect tariffs back on you.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
But the man that negotiated the USNC is saying that
it's a foolish agreement. He basically said, to anybody of
any of these agreements, they're fool But he negotiated it
and find it so okay.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
But there's still gaps in the coverage of you. Well,
so I would argue that it's time for Canada to
do a better job at the border, pay their fair
share for NATO, and I would have free and fair
trade across the board, no tariffs on anybody, and we'd
get along like you know, siblings, the way we should.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
It's not possible. I mean, we have to have to protect.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Certainly you you're you're protecting your you're protecting your industries,
and if the United States does it back, it's unfair.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
The United States has tariffs on softwood lumber as well.
There's terroifts that are ingreened by the States to protect certain.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
That's what reciprocal That's what reciprocal tariffs is going to
be about. But the problem is, I think that the
Canadian economy is more reliant on the US economy than
vice versa. I don't think that the In the end,
I'd rather not have this conflict. In the end, I
think it's in everyone's best interest to resolve these issues
(25:39):
peacefully and as friends. And and I'll even tip my
hat Canada won the hockey game is one of the
closest best games I've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
It was a great game. Actually, the game on Saturday
with the three fights was the best game I ever
saw that.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
It was great.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Nine seconds in boom, gloves are off, Let's go game on.
I loved every minute of it. All right, listen, Just
something to think about. And when you talk to your
Canadian friends, know that in the hearts of Americans, we
like the people in Canada, and we we want to
get along with Canada. But America does have legitimate arguments
(26:14):
back here.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Okay, just still President Trump, that that our kindness and
our politeness doesn't mean we're weak. We're still strong and
we believe in our country and we believe it.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
No, but you got to be just be fair. I'm
not asking you not to be strong.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
We want strong neighbors exactly, but don't be But don't
take advantage of us either.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
No, I know. But Indiana all right, in the long term,
And it was pleasure to talk to you. By the way,
Katie is a wonderful lady of your call screen of fantastic.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Oh you're sucking up to the call screen and I
get it, all right, don't force me to do something
I've never done in my life or career because I
don't like them, and that's called the boycotts. But you
guys are starting one and I don't. I don't want
to see this thing at legs. And if it does,
there's going to be a lot of angry America and
this thing is going to get way out of control
and it won't help Canada.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
I can tell you that.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Alright, quick break right back, more of your calls eight
hundred nine one, Shawn. As we continue.
Speaker 9 (27:14):
In the world gives you insanity, he gives you common
sense solutions.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
This country needs a course correction.
Speaker 9 (27:21):
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Speaker 1 (27:34):
Hi, we continue now with our busy phones. Eight hundred
nine one, Shawn is our number. Let's say hi to
Ron in South Carolina.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
What's up Ron? We only have a minute though, Ron.
How are you?
Speaker 8 (27:44):
Hey, Sean, We're doing great. It's good to talk to you.
Just wanted to ask a quick question and get your
comment on it. With all that does is fining, with
all the fraud that's going on, do you believe that
there's going to be prosecution the individuals responsible? And also
I wanted to say too that I know in the interview,
(28:07):
President Trump said that what mister Musk is doing for
our nation as a thankless job. But I think I
speak for a lot of people when I just shout
out to him, thank you, mister Musk very much, and
appreciate all you're doing.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Those were some great.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Interviews you gave there.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
I appreciate it, and I'm thankful to mister Musk, who
and as he said to me, uh, they're not going
to get everything right, and and when they get it wrong,
they're going to fix it very quickly. But you know,
there's no room for error in a world of Trump arrangement,
rage and insanity.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
I'll tell you that.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
But you know what, if we don't do it now
for the sake of our kids and grandkids and for
the sake of American taxpayers, this is probably the only
opportunity we have, you know. And everyone goes, well, what
about my friend's one job, Well, if they were working
for USAID, that was not a job that ever should
have been created, because that money never should have been
spent that way. Anyway, I appreciate to call my friend,
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