June 5, 2025 • 28 mins
Mike Howell, President of the Oversight Project and the leading figure in uncovering the autopen scandal, is now weighing in on the Trump Administration’s news that they “officially opened an investigation into whether Joe Biden 'was competent' when he used an autopen to issue lame-duck pardons to family members and death row inmates.”
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Then give me a mentally deficient Joe Biden any given
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All right, thanks Scott chan An Hour two Sean Hannity Show,
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want to be a part of the program. Well, the
scandal just is not going to go away. They wanted
to go away, but it's not going to go away.
And you know, it's fascinating to watch Colleen Jean Pierre Independent.
Now we went earlier today.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Where exactly it is right now, and we just kind
of checked Okay, she she announces a book. She's a
former White House press secretary. She's she's got to be doing,
you know, a pretty good book sales or something. No,
not even close. It is one million, eight hundred and
twenty thousand, eight hundred and fifty three on Amazon. That
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is an unmitigated disaster. That means maybe you so two
or three copies. I mean, that's how bad it is.
As she announces her big switch of affiliation to Independent,
and how disappointed she was a look inside the Biden
White House outside the party lines, and how angry she
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was that they chased Joe Biden out of the way.
But of course she saw no cognitive decline at all. Anyway,
brain fog Biden Demenschiagate. He's claiming that he made all
the decisions on pardons and executive orders himself, which is
very hard to believe. The Doze Subcommittee has revealed how
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the Biden Auto pen may have funneled money to leftist NGOs.
We'll get into more details, and we mentioned in the
last hour, but and Biden is accused of dishing out
twenty seven billion as a matter of fact, on Green
New Deal projects run by cronies in one of his
final acts, and it just clearly was a cover up
for anyone with eyes to see. Never mind the fact
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that the DA Chess under Donald Trump, has slammed the
Biden administration over the Ohio train derailment response and ignoring
residents and hiding a potential cancer cluster according to their
own report, which is, you know, pretty unbelievable. Now, this
is finally getting the attention of President Trump, and it
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is getting the attention of members of Congress. Here is
President Trump talking about the autopen scandal.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
He's somebody said, auto Ben, I want to wear because
I think it's the biggest scandal maybe in the last
one hundred years in this country. So when I hear
that word, I think it has to be discussed because, uh,
the fake news will try and you know, hide it,
and we can't do that.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
But we don't ask you if you've covered.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Any evidents that anything specific was signed without President.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
Biden's knowledge or buy other people in the administration acting illegally.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Well, I don't think Biden would know whether or not
he signed it.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
I ask you if you've recovered now, but I've uncovered,
you know, the human mind. I was in a debate
with the human mind, and I didn't think he knew what.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
The hell he was doing.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
So, you know, it's just one of those things, one
of those problems. Can't we can't ever allow that to
happen to our country, the danger our country. Who's in
And I know some of the people that worked with him,
radical left, horrible people. And I could give you the
name of some of the people that use the autopen
because I'm here and I asked questions about people that
were here. Also, there are a lot of people that
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were here when that happened, and they hear right now
and they'll answer you a question very accurately. But I
know some of the people that use that autopen, and
those are not the people that had the same ideology
as Joe Biden.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
These were radical left lunatics that use that.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I mean, this is the president's right. I think it's
the biggest scandal in White House history and presidential history.
And now you might say it's comparable to Woodrow Wilson,
but as far as we know, after he had a stroke,
it was his wife that was making the decisions. There
was no evidence that I've read. I'll ask historians, I'll
bring him on the program to get more details, but
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that there was this vast conspiracy where everybody knew and
everybody covered it up. Now the co author with fake
Jake Tapper over a fake new CNN, this guy by
the name of Alex Thompson revealed who he believes was
running the country during Biden's decline. Listen.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
By the end of twenty twenty three, I think it
becomes clear that there is a bigger issue than just
him struggling in ways beyond a normal principle, that there's
actually a.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Decline and in his ability to do the job.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
And I think there is a point when loyalty there's
always a tension between loyal to the principle and loyalty
to the larger institution. And I think it was at
that point that there was that tension, and I think
they chose loyalty to the principle.
Speaker 7 (05:47):
And who was they? And this is what I really again,
because again I know so many of the people that
I'm sure you all talked to off the record, who Again,
in real time we were sort of trying to sort
through and figure this out.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
But who is the who in this conspiracy?
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I mean the inner circle?
Speaker 6 (06:05):
Yeah, the people that were in charge were Mike Donald,
Steve Verschetti, Bruce Reid, Anthony Bernal, the First Lady's Chew staff,
the First Lady and Annie Tomasini. Those are the people
that saw him the most and that had the most
control over what he was doing and his day to day.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Now, James Comer, who we've interviewed twice, is now calling
up more and more people to get to the bottom
of what is a frankly a conspiracy cover up here.
Everybody knew and if they say they don't, I think
they're lying. That's my opinion. I'm allowed titled to my opinion.
Mike Cowell is well, as president of the Oversight Project
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and leading figure and uncovering the autopen scandal, is now
weighing in on the issue of Joe Biden and they
have officially opened this investigation into whether or not you know,
Joe Biden was confident when he used the auto pen
to issue these lame DUC pardons to family members and
death row inmates, et cetera. Anyway, Mike cow will thank
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you for being.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
With us, Hey, thank you for having me on.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
All right, Well, what have you learned?
Speaker 3 (07:10):
What do we know?
Speaker 1 (07:11):
I've been chronicling this since twenty nineteen, and then you
heard the media. You know that was Liberal Joe, and
then the media and Fake New CNN started talking about
cheap fake videos. Now Jake Tapper's making a profit off it.
But he's the same guy that excoriated Laura Trump and said,
you're making fun of his stuttering when it was so
obvious to anyone with ice to see that he was
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in a massive decline.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
So back in the summer, we began a very comprehensive
and exhaustive investigation. Our team at the Overset Project began
pulling the paperwork because we saw what the rest of
the world solved an incapacitated president, and we wanted to
know how the White House was actually operating. So we
went to the paper and you know, the papers that
he allegedly signed, and what we discovered was shocking. And
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we put this out a few months ago, which kicked
off this whole auto pen story, and that was an
autopen device was being used basically as a default mechanism
for a lot of documents, and it particularly picked up
as the White House went along, which matches kind of
some of the reporting out there that the decline started sharpening,
you know, in the later years of his presidency. But
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we have another update for you. This is just uncovered
by our team today. We'd previously disclosed that there were
two autopen signatures, so think about like two versions of
the same signature applied over and over again. But now
today we've discovered a third autopen signature type that was
used on proclamations. So think of things like Tarraf related
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or the you know, trans day of Visibility, those types
of documents. So what does that mean. Could mean a
couple of things. There could have been multiple autopen machines,
There could have been multiple settings, which then begs the
question of did multiple people have access to it? What
were the control mechanisms? And it makes this look like
it was very chaotic without ample control. And so we're
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very excited that President Trump has you know, taken up
and ordered his Department of Justice to watch investigations based
off our findings. Comber in the House and then over
in the Senate there's another investigation. So it's full speed ahead,
and we got a lot of useful information that we're
cooperating with them on.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
I'll tell you what it could be, and I know
this from experienced. I only wrote four books in my life.
I swore I was never going to write another book,
and the previous book I wrote before twenty twenty was
in twenty ten. I just don't like to write. It's
too much work. I find it painful and anyway, and
it was in the middle of COVID when that book
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came out, which meant I had to cancel a book tour.
And what I did instead is I signed close to
one hundred thousand what they call tip sheets that they
actually inserted into the book and it's really genuinely part
of the book. And when they told me, you know
what the early demand was, and they said we're going
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to need one hundred dowar and signatures, I was like
what but and they said, well, well, we can't autopen them,
and you can give us like six or seven versions
of your signature and they're like alternatum with every signature.
And I said, I can't do that. That's that's not
sincere to me. And so I signed them all and
I spent you know, almost two straight weeks and longer
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signing all of them because I'm very appreciative that people
would be interested in my book, to be very Frank
and so I think that's where the setting issue the
third signature could come from. Am I wrong on that?
Speaker 3 (10:32):
No? I think you're mostly right. We've also uncovered several
documents that do bear human signatures, and they vary wildly
and dramatically on things like legislation and the like. And
there obviously are some things that Biden did sign publicly.
I think it could be a host of issues related
to that. Whether he could actually operate a pen in
a you know, similar manner over time as an open question.
(10:53):
But unlike you, the big difference between you and Joe
Biden is you actually had the capacity to know, you know,
you were signing your own books.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
What really means Oh, and here's the interesting thing is
people would say, well, look at this signature and look
at this signature, and they're so different. I'm like, after
you signed five thousand, it's not going to be the
same signature because I could barely hold my hand up.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
That's absolutely right. But some of these signatures from Biden,
you know, are so dissimilar it really makes you wonder
if he was even signing some of these things himself,
or if the human signatures were by another hand. But
here with the you know, multiple kind of versions of
the autopen that we've uncovered, it really gets to the
issue of did Joe Biden even delegate this kind of
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authority or was he even aware of it? And I
think that's what makes this so functionally different. The auto
pen was the device, the instrumentality to keep the White
House operating as if everything was okay, And what it
really is in historical terms, is a workaround of the
twenty fifth Amendment, which you know, after JFK was assassinated,
we had four assassinations in one hundred years, as you
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reference the Woodrow Wilson incident. The country came together and said,
we need a process to make sure we actually know
who's in charge and have this figured out. What are
the elements of the twenty fifth amendments. The vice President
and a majority of the Cabinet transmits to Congress and
the Senate that the president is incapacitated. So they didn't
do that, obviously, and I think that's the big historical
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question as to why they did not. Their solution was
to work around this, and the autopen was a device,
an instrumentality, is strategy to get around this. It does
not have a president.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
There's no way anybody can convince me, especially in those
last three months, that he knew everything that was being autopen.
I don't believe it for a second.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Now.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
It was interesting one of the people quoted in this
book by fake Jake and this guy Alex Thompson, whatever
his name is, and this book is actually quoted as saying, well,
we knew we could, you know, hopefully get him elected
and then you know, we could just you know, bring
him out every once in a while just to show
proof of life. And that was their plan, which means
their plan to me, you know, we can find that
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person that made that comment. Their plan was to purposely
deceive the American people who surp our constitution and a
duly elected president with unknown radicals that the American people
don't even know about. That to me, it's like sounds
like a clue to me.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
That's because it is. And I got news for Jake
Tapper and Alex Thompson. They're going to have to give
up the information in those names. There is no right
to hide sources in a criminal conspiracy. And after we're
talking about here, don't take my word for it. Take
the Supreme Court who ruled on this very issue in
nineteen seventy two and Brandsburg v. Hays that a quote
unquote newsman cannot hide sources and a criminal investigation, and
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that's what we are talking about here. So I think
Tapper and Thompson, who have done the most unethical thing
I've ever seen in my life in the field of journalism,
who are trying to monetize their own cover up right now,
will have to use that money for their legal fees
should they be subpoenaed, which I hope they are very soon.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Well, it's really an unbelievable scandal. I quick break will
come back on the other side. Mike Howell is with US,
President of the Oversight Project, and I think we're understanding
now why he's being called Trump's ultra maga pardon attorney.
We'll have more with him on the other side. Also
coming up, my uh, we're going to play President Trump
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with the German Chancellor from earlier today, and my interview
with Dan Mangino is coming up and much more. We'll
have the latest out of Boulder, Colorado straight ahead as
we continue. We continue now, Mike Howell is with US
President of the Oversight Project, often dubbed Trump's ultra Maga
Pardner attorney, talk about the autopen scandal and of course
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the cognitive cover up scandal, the biggest presidential and White
House scandal in history as far as I'm concerned, Where
do you think that this is going?
Speaker 3 (14:45):
So there's a couple of ways this is going to go. One,
as I mentioned, this is criminal nature. We've listed the
statutes that are implicated. They basically revolved around bribe, forgery,
impersonation of an official government official in some instances, potentially yes,
bribery because there's a lot of money flying around a
lot of these issues, and you have to look at
the incentives that people on the inside and outside had
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and manipulating the situation. Second to that, there's there's other
issues related to people who knew about what was happening
and said and did nothing, the misprisonment of a felony,
and you get into the realms of conspiracy, and all
these legal theories that were applied in January sixth will
really come back to to bite the Biden administration right
in their backside. And I think President Trump will ultimately
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weigh executive privilege in the course of this investigation. So
those officials cannot hide behind it. Some obviously will try
to deplete the fifth and I think that's something that
Congress and others will have to get around. It's gonna
be a lengthy legal battle criminal nature as it relates
to these things. And also the people who received the
pardons that I don't think Biden had any idea that
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you know, we're going out of that final day, should
be held accountable for the crimes that they were pardoned for.
Who I'm talking about there is General Milly, Senator Chef,
and other members of the January sixth Committee and so forth.
I think those people should be charged, and in the
course of those charges, they of course will assert their
part and as a defense and will be tasted in
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criminal court.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
I think you're right on this game. Honestly, now I
know what they call you, Trump's ultra maga pardon attorney.
We really appreciate you being on the program. Mike Cowell,
President of the Oversight Project. We will get updates from
you as warranted. Thanks for your time, sir, Thanks sir,
eight hundred and nine four one, Shawn on number. If
you want to be a part of the program, all right,
so you might recall Angela Merkel Angela Merkell. One day,
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Donald Trump hands her a white flag. She goes, what's this.
It's the white flag. The white flag is surrender. Why
are you handing me this? Because she had just done
a multi, multi, multi, huge, massive billion dollar deal for
cheaper energy from Vladimir Putin in Russia. You know, NATO
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mostly is designed as an altons to prevent Russian aggression.
Most people should know that by now, and it certainly
is evolved into that. And you know, they don't want
to pay their fair share of NATO. Most NATO countries
are not paying their fair share like we are. And
he was making a point because when Europe buys Putin's energy,
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they are funding Putin's war machine. Because Joe Biden turned
a blind diet as sanctions on Iran, well that funded
their terror machine. So anyway, the President met with the
new German Chancellor Merz today. They had to sit down.
They talked about the travel ban in the US, stricter
asylum laws in Germany, and their discussion about Ukraine and Russia.
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And here's how it went down.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
I'm right about the great big beautiful bills.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
We called it a great big beautiful bill because that's
what it is.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
And again, biggest tax cuts in history, biggest economic development
most anywhere done, anything like it. Business is spared. And
I don't know if you've seen the numbers, but the
numbers came out. Even the CBO, which is run by Democrats,
said that we're going to be doing ye know, I'd
like you to discuss it. The two point eight million
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trillion that the CBO. This is a group of people
that are Democrats, they're very hostile to us.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
They just came out with phenomenal numbers. What it does
You want to mention that.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Scored, Yes, sir.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
So what we've seen is we keep hearing from the
CBO that there's going to be a ors deficit from
the bill, which we disagree with. But using the CBO scoring,
they came out and scored the teriff revenue. We think
it'll be the minimum of two point eight trillion over
the ten year window, which actually puts the bill in surplus.
If you include the tariff revenue, which they won't do,
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it gives.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
You a tremendous surplus. But we're not allowed to use
that for some reason. They say scoring. Nobody knows what
scoring means.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Maybe a couple of people, but nobody somebody since in
the background they say, well, we're not going to allow that.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
They're not allowing other things that we have that are
tremendously profitable for our country. But if you saw the
other day see NBC, they came out with numbers, and
the people in the show very good people.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I've watched them for a long time. They couldn't believe
the numbers, how good they are. The numbers were incredible.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
That was personal income and also very low inflation. We
have very low inflation. We're down to two percent now
and maybe even lower than that. And when I took
it over, it was a mess. Remember, we had the
worst inflation probably in the history of our country. They
say forty eight years, but let's say that's I think
it's worse than that. So we had the worst inflation
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in the history of our country under the Biden administration.
Now we're down to a beautiful number two percent. We'd
actually like to keep it. They're better than zero. Is
two percent, it's going down maybe to one and one
percent is like perfect, that's perfect.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
You don't want to have zero.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
For certain reasons that nobody is very interested to listen
to but we have almost perfect inflation. Grocery prices are
down everything. Remember eggs, eggs. We weren't going to buy
another egg for the next twenty years. It was so expensive. Right,
Remember you guys all hit me about eggs. Eggs have
come down four hundred percent. Everybody has eggs.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Now they have an eggs for breakfast again.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
But if you look at gasoline, very important, I think
always the most important because if the energy is a
big the biggest factor.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
That's what happened.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
He screwed up our energy policy and everything went up
because energy went up.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
But now energy is way down, and they have.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
States where you're at one dollar and ninety eight cents
a gallon for gasoline. So the costs of weight have
come way down. And one of the things I ran
on was that I ran on the border. We have
the best border in the history of our country. Ninety
nine point nine nine percent. It was last week three
people came in, two of them for medical reasons. We
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let them in because one of them had are attack.
I think it was a nice thing to do, and
one of them had something else.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
So we've never had I had very good numbers for.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Four years, but we're really top it, and I want
to thank Christy and Tom Holman. They've done a fantastic job,
but nobody mentions that anymore. Remember a few months ago,
the border was a total disaster. People were coming in
by the hundreds of thousands of people a day, a week.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
A month.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
I mean we had a month two million people came
in in one month.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
The border was being overrun and a lot of bad people, criminals, murderers,
drug dealers.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
We had some of the worst people in the world
coming in from all over the world.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
It's totally close and you know what.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
People are coming into our country, but they're coming in legally.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
So we've done a great job.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
On your new travel Vand why now, and if the
Boulder attack was part of your reasoning, why not include
Egypt on that list where the suspects front the work?
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Well, because Egypt has been a country that we deal
with very closely. They have things under control. The countries
that we have but don't have things under control.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
And why now?
Speaker 5 (22:07):
I can say that it can't come soon enough. Frankly,
we want to keep bad people out of our country.
The Biden administration allowed some horrendous people and we're getting
them out. One by one and we're not stopping until
we get them out. We have thousands of murderers. I
even hate to say this in front of the Chancellor.
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Of course, you have a little problem too with some
of the people that we're allowed to each country. It's
not your fault, it's not your fault. It shouldn't have happened.
I told her it shouldn't have happened what she did.
But you have your own difficulty with that, and we do.
And we're moving them out, and we're moving them out
very strongly, but it can't come fast enough.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
We want to get them out. We want to get
them out now.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
We don't want to have other bad people coming into
our country.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
But usually the word band, I'm being nice. We had
a very good talk.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
And we've straightened out any complexity. It's very complex stuff
and we straighten it out. The agreement was we're going
to have Scott and Howard and Jamison will be going
and meeting with their top people and continued forward. But no,
I think we have everything. I think we're in very
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good shack with China and the trade deal. We have
a deal with China, as you know. But we were
straightening out some of the points having to do mostly
with rare earth magnets and some other things those produced,
trade terif rates.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
They remain in effect.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
We have the deal.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
I mean, we've had a deal.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
We announced the deal, and we'll be I guess you
could say I wouldn't even say finalizing it up Scott.
I would say we have a deal, and we're going
to just make sure that everybody understands what the deal is.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
We had a really good conversation. By the way, he
invited me to China, and I invited him here. We're
both accepted.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
So I'll be going there with the First Lady at
a certain point, and he'll be coming here, hopefully with
the First Lady of China. We want to have foreign students,
but we want them to be checked, you know, the
case of Harvard and Columbia and others.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
All we want to do is see their list. There's
no problem with that.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
This is anybody outside of our country international students, because
when we see some of the people that we've been watching,
we say, where do these people come from?
Speaker 2 (24:21):
How is that possible? No, we want to have foreign
students come.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
We're very honored by it, but we want to see
their list Harvard didn't want to give us the list
they're going to be giving us to listen, now, I
think they're starting to behave Actually, if you want to
know the truth, we just hit the highest number in
the history of our country, we think, but very close,
but the highest in the history of our country recruitment
joining the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, Coast Guard, police
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forces all.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Over the world.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
What did you do for?
Speaker 2 (24:50):
What was through spirit?
Speaker 5 (24:52):
They love our country again, you're going to do the
same thing. The spirit we have great spirit is back
and our country and it's very simple. And you know
it was only Susie six months ago, right that you
got reports you're the one that released them that you
couldn't get anybody to join the military.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
And now we're stopped.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
Every service now is packed and we have waiting lists
of people trying to get in as good as we've
ever had in the history of our country. So that's
an honor, that's a great honor. Well, when I see
the moment when we're not going to make a deal,
when this thing won't stop, that moment, yeah, it's in
my brain, the deadline. When I see the moment where
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it's not going to stop, and I'm sure you're going
to do the same thing. Will be very, very, very tough,
and it could be on both countries.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
To be honest, you know, it takes two to tango.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
But we're going to be very tough, whether it's Russia
or anybody else, We're going to be very tough. That
that's a blood path that's going on over there. And
when I see the moment where I say, well.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
They're going to just keep fighting.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
You know, I gave the analogy yesterday when I spoke
to President put In a two hour and fifteen minute
a goal with it. Sometimes, and this is me speaking
maybe in a negative sense, but sometimes you see two
young children fighting like crazy. They hate each other, and
they're fighting in a park and you try and pull
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them apart.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
They don't want to be pulled.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
Sometimes you're better off letting them fight for a while
and then pulling them apart.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
And I gave that.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
Analogy to Putting yesterday. I said, President, maybe you're going
to have to keep fighting and suffering a lot, because
both signs are suffering before you pull them apart, before
they're able to be pulled apart.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
But it's a pretty known analogy. You have two kids.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
They fight, fight, fight. Sometimes you let them fight for
a little while. You see it hockey, you see it
in sports. The referees let them go for a couple
of seconds, let them go for a little while before
you pull them apart.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
And maybe maybe and.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
I said it, and maybe that's a negative because we're
saying go. But a lot of bad blood. There's some
bad blood between the two. I have to deal with it,
and the chance less to deal with it. It's incredible
the level of there's a great hatred between those two,
between those two men, but between the warring parties, great hatred.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
That was President Trump and the Chancellor of Germany, Chancellor
Merz with the President today. Eight hundred ninety four one
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as far as I'm concerned, a terrorist attack on our
own soil in Boulder, Colorado. We'll talk to him and
talk about the silence, which is deafening from the left
and the squad and people like Congresswoman Omar on the
other side, and my interview with Dan Bongino, all coming
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If it ever would be implemented into law, hospitals will close,
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He was still able to keep this sucker on the tracks.
Then give me a mentally deficient Joe Biden any given
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eight hundred and nine to four one Seawn, if you
want to be a part of the program. Well, the
scandal just is not going to go away. They wanted
to go away, but it's not going to go away.
And you know, it's fascinating to watch Colleen Jean Pierre Independent.
Now we went earlier today.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Where exactly it is right now, and we just kind
of checked Okay, she she announces a book. She's a
former White House press secretary. She's she's got to be doing,
you know, a pretty good book sales or something. No,
not even close. It is one million, eight hundred and
twenty thousand, eight hundred and fifty three on Amazon. That
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is an unmitigated disaster. That means maybe you so two
or three copies. I mean, that's how bad it is.
As she announces her big switch of affiliation to Independent,
and how disappointed she was a look inside the Biden
White House outside the party lines, and how angry she
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was that they chased Joe Biden out of the way.
But of course she saw no cognitive decline at all. Anyway,
brain fog Biden Demenschiagate. He's claiming that he made all
the decisions on pardons and executive orders himself, which is
very hard to believe. The Doze Subcommittee has revealed how
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the Biden Auto pen may have funneled money to leftist NGOs.
We'll get into more details, and we mentioned in the
last hour, but and Biden is accused of dishing out
twenty seven billion as a matter of fact, on Green
New Deal projects run by cronies in one of his
final acts, and it just clearly was a cover up
for anyone with eyes to see. Never mind the fact
(02:58):
that the DA Chess under Donald Trump, has slammed the
Biden administration over the Ohio train derailment response and ignoring
residents and hiding a potential cancer cluster according to their
own report, which is, you know, pretty unbelievable. Now, this
is finally getting the attention of President Trump, and it
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is getting the attention of members of Congress. Here is
President Trump talking about the autopen scandal.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
He's somebody said, auto Ben, I want to wear because
I think it's the biggest scandal maybe in the last
one hundred years in this country. So when I hear
that word, I think it has to be discussed because, uh,
the fake news will try and you know, hide it,
and we can't do that.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
But we don't ask you if you've covered.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Any evidents that anything specific was signed without President.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
Biden's knowledge or buy other people in the administration acting illegally.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Well, I don't think Biden would know whether or not
he signed it.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
I ask you if you've recovered now, but I've uncovered,
you know, the human mind. I was in a debate
with the human mind, and I didn't think he knew what.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
The hell he was doing.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
So, you know, it's just one of those things, one
of those problems. Can't we can't ever allow that to
happen to our country, the danger our country. Who's in
And I know some of the people that worked with him,
radical left, horrible people. And I could give you the
name of some of the people that use the autopen
because I'm here and I asked questions about people that
were here. Also, there are a lot of people that
(04:24):
were here when that happened, and they hear right now
and they'll answer you a question very accurately. But I
know some of the people that use that autopen, and
those are not the people that had the same ideology
as Joe Biden.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
These were radical left lunatics that use that.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I mean, this is the president's right. I think it's
the biggest scandal in White House history and presidential history.
And now you might say it's comparable to Woodrow Wilson,
but as far as we know, after he had a stroke,
it was his wife that was making the decisions. There
was no evidence that I've read. I'll ask historians, I'll
bring him on the program to get more details, but
(05:01):
that there was this vast conspiracy where everybody knew and
everybody covered it up. Now the co author with fake
Jake Tapper over a fake new CNN, this guy by
the name of Alex Thompson revealed who he believes was
running the country during Biden's decline. Listen.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
By the end of twenty twenty three, I think it
becomes clear that there is a bigger issue than just
him struggling in ways beyond a normal principle, that there's
actually a.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Decline and in his ability to do the job.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
And I think there is a point when loyalty there's
always a tension between loyal to the principle and loyalty
to the larger institution. And I think it was at
that point that there was that tension, and I think
they chose loyalty to the principle.
Speaker 7 (05:47):
And who was they? And this is what I really again,
because again I know so many of the people that
I'm sure you all talked to off the record, who Again,
in real time we were sort of trying to sort
through and figure this out.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
But who is the who in this conspiracy?
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I mean the inner circle?
Speaker 6 (06:05):
Yeah, the people that were in charge were Mike Donald,
Steve Verschetti, Bruce Reid, Anthony Bernal, the First Lady's Chew staff,
the First Lady and Annie Tomasini. Those are the people
that saw him the most and that had the most
control over what he was doing and his day to day.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Now, James Comer, who we've interviewed twice, is now calling
up more and more people to get to the bottom
of what is a frankly a conspiracy cover up here.
Everybody knew and if they say they don't, I think
they're lying. That's my opinion. I'm allowed titled to my opinion.
Mike Cowell is well, as president of the Oversight Project
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and leading figure and uncovering the autopen scandal, is now
weighing in on the issue of Joe Biden and they
have officially opened this investigation into whether or not you know,
Joe Biden was confident when he used the auto pen
to issue these lame DUC pardons to family members and
death row inmates, et cetera. Anyway, Mike cow will thank
(07:05):
you for being.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
With us, Hey, thank you for having me on.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
All right, Well, what have you learned?
Speaker 3 (07:10):
What do we know?
Speaker 1 (07:11):
I've been chronicling this since twenty nineteen, and then you
heard the media. You know that was Liberal Joe, and
then the media and Fake New CNN started talking about
cheap fake videos. Now Jake Tapper's making a profit off it.
But he's the same guy that excoriated Laura Trump and said,
you're making fun of his stuttering when it was so
obvious to anyone with ice to see that he was
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in a massive decline.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
So back in the summer, we began a very comprehensive
and exhaustive investigation. Our team at the Overset Project began
pulling the paperwork because we saw what the rest of
the world solved an incapacitated president, and we wanted to
know how the White House was actually operating. So we
went to the paper and you know, the papers that
he allegedly signed, and what we discovered was shocking. And
(07:54):
we put this out a few months ago, which kicked
off this whole auto pen story, and that was an
autopen device was being used basically as a default mechanism
for a lot of documents, and it particularly picked up
as the White House went along, which matches kind of
some of the reporting out there that the decline started sharpening,
you know, in the later years of his presidency. But
(08:16):
we have another update for you. This is just uncovered
by our team today. We'd previously disclosed that there were
two autopen signatures, so think about like two versions of
the same signature applied over and over again. But now
today we've discovered a third autopen signature type that was
used on proclamations. So think of things like Tarraf related
(08:38):
or the you know, trans day of Visibility, those types
of documents. So what does that mean. Could mean a
couple of things. There could have been multiple autopen machines,
There could have been multiple settings, which then begs the
question of did multiple people have access to it? What
were the control mechanisms? And it makes this look like
it was very chaotic without ample control. And so we're
(09:00):
very excited that President Trump has you know, taken up
and ordered his Department of Justice to watch investigations based
off our findings. Comber in the House and then over
in the Senate there's another investigation. So it's full speed ahead,
and we got a lot of useful information that we're
cooperating with them on.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
I'll tell you what it could be, and I know
this from experienced. I only wrote four books in my life.
I swore I was never going to write another book,
and the previous book I wrote before twenty twenty was
in twenty ten. I just don't like to write. It's
too much work. I find it painful and anyway, and
it was in the middle of COVID when that book
(09:38):
came out, which meant I had to cancel a book tour.
And what I did instead is I signed close to
one hundred thousand what they call tip sheets that they
actually inserted into the book and it's really genuinely part
of the book. And when they told me, you know
what the early demand was, and they said we're going
(09:59):
to need one hundred dowar and signatures, I was like
what but and they said, well, well, we can't autopen them,
and you can give us like six or seven versions
of your signature and they're like alternatum with every signature.
And I said, I can't do that. That's that's not
sincere to me. And so I signed them all and
I spent you know, almost two straight weeks and longer
(10:22):
signing all of them because I'm very appreciative that people
would be interested in my book, to be very Frank
and so I think that's where the setting issue the
third signature could come from. Am I wrong on that?
Speaker 3 (10:32):
No? I think you're mostly right. We've also uncovered several
documents that do bear human signatures, and they vary wildly
and dramatically on things like legislation and the like. And
there obviously are some things that Biden did sign publicly.
I think it could be a host of issues related
to that. Whether he could actually operate a pen in
a you know, similar manner over time as an open question.
(10:53):
But unlike you, the big difference between you and Joe
Biden is you actually had the capacity to know, you know,
you were signing your own books.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
What really means Oh, and here's the interesting thing is
people would say, well, look at this signature and look
at this signature, and they're so different. I'm like, after
you signed five thousand, it's not going to be the
same signature because I could barely hold my hand up.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
That's absolutely right. But some of these signatures from Biden,
you know, are so dissimilar it really makes you wonder
if he was even signing some of these things himself,
or if the human signatures were by another hand. But
here with the you know, multiple kind of versions of
the autopen that we've uncovered, it really gets to the
issue of did Joe Biden even delegate this kind of
(11:35):
authority or was he even aware of it? And I
think that's what makes this so functionally different. The auto
pen was the device, the instrumentality to keep the White
House operating as if everything was okay, And what it
really is in historical terms, is a workaround of the
twenty fifth Amendment, which you know, after JFK was assassinated,
we had four assassinations in one hundred years, as you
(11:56):
reference the Woodrow Wilson incident. The country came together and said,
we need a process to make sure we actually know
who's in charge and have this figured out. What are
the elements of the twenty fifth amendments. The vice President
and a majority of the Cabinet transmits to Congress and
the Senate that the president is incapacitated. So they didn't
do that, obviously, and I think that's the big historical
(12:16):
question as to why they did not. Their solution was
to work around this, and the autopen was a device,
an instrumentality, is strategy to get around this. It does
not have a president.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
There's no way anybody can convince me, especially in those
last three months, that he knew everything that was being autopen.
I don't believe it for a second.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Now.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
It was interesting one of the people quoted in this
book by fake Jake and this guy Alex Thompson, whatever
his name is, and this book is actually quoted as saying, well,
we knew we could, you know, hopefully get him elected
and then you know, we could just you know, bring
him out every once in a while just to show
proof of life. And that was their plan, which means
their plan to me, you know, we can find that
(13:01):
person that made that comment. Their plan was to purposely
deceive the American people who surp our constitution and a
duly elected president with unknown radicals that the American people
don't even know about. That to me, it's like sounds
like a clue to me.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
That's because it is. And I got news for Jake
Tapper and Alex Thompson. They're going to have to give
up the information in those names. There is no right
to hide sources in a criminal conspiracy. And after we're
talking about here, don't take my word for it. Take
the Supreme Court who ruled on this very issue in
nineteen seventy two and Brandsburg v. Hays that a quote
unquote newsman cannot hide sources and a criminal investigation, and
(13:40):
that's what we are talking about here. So I think
Tapper and Thompson, who have done the most unethical thing
I've ever seen in my life in the field of journalism,
who are trying to monetize their own cover up right now,
will have to use that money for their legal fees
should they be subpoenaed, which I hope they are very soon.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Well, it's really an unbelievable scandal. I quick break will
come back on the other side. Mike Howell is with US,
President of the Oversight Project, and I think we're understanding
now why he's being called Trump's ultra maga pardon attorney.
We'll have more with him on the other side. Also
coming up, my uh, we're going to play President Trump
(14:16):
with the German Chancellor from earlier today, and my interview
with Dan Mangino is coming up and much more. We'll
have the latest out of Boulder, Colorado straight ahead as
we continue. We continue now, Mike Howell is with US
President of the Oversight Project, often dubbed Trump's ultra Maga
Pardner attorney, talk about the autopen scandal and of course
(14:37):
the cognitive cover up scandal, the biggest presidential and White
House scandal in history as far as I'm concerned, Where
do you think that this is going?
Speaker 3 (14:45):
So there's a couple of ways this is going to go. One,
as I mentioned, this is criminal nature. We've listed the
statutes that are implicated. They basically revolved around bribe, forgery,
impersonation of an official government official in some instances, potentially yes,
bribery because there's a lot of money flying around a
lot of these issues, and you have to look at
the incentives that people on the inside and outside had
(15:06):
and manipulating the situation. Second to that, there's there's other
issues related to people who knew about what was happening
and said and did nothing, the misprisonment of a felony,
and you get into the realms of conspiracy, and all
these legal theories that were applied in January sixth will
really come back to to bite the Biden administration right
in their backside. And I think President Trump will ultimately
(15:29):
weigh executive privilege in the course of this investigation. So
those officials cannot hide behind it. Some obviously will try
to deplete the fifth and I think that's something that
Congress and others will have to get around. It's gonna
be a lengthy legal battle criminal nature as it relates
to these things. And also the people who received the
pardons that I don't think Biden had any idea that
(15:50):
you know, we're going out of that final day, should
be held accountable for the crimes that they were pardoned for.
Who I'm talking about there is General Milly, Senator Chef,
and other members of the January sixth Committee and so forth.
I think those people should be charged, and in the
course of those charges, they of course will assert their
part and as a defense and will be tasted in
(16:11):
criminal court.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
I think you're right on this game. Honestly, now I
know what they call you, Trump's ultra maga pardon attorney.
We really appreciate you being on the program. Mike Cowell,
President of the Oversight Project. We will get updates from
you as warranted. Thanks for your time, sir, Thanks sir,
eight hundred and nine four one, Shawn on number. If
you want to be a part of the program, all right,
so you might recall Angela Merkel Angela Merkell. One day,
(16:36):
Donald Trump hands her a white flag. She goes, what's this.
It's the white flag. The white flag is surrender. Why
are you handing me this? Because she had just done
a multi, multi, multi, huge, massive billion dollar deal for
cheaper energy from Vladimir Putin in Russia. You know, NATO
(16:58):
mostly is designed as an altons to prevent Russian aggression.
Most people should know that by now, and it certainly
is evolved into that. And you know, they don't want
to pay their fair share of NATO. Most NATO countries
are not paying their fair share like we are. And
he was making a point because when Europe buys Putin's energy,
(17:22):
they are funding Putin's war machine. Because Joe Biden turned
a blind diet as sanctions on Iran, well that funded
their terror machine. So anyway, the President met with the
new German Chancellor Merz today. They had to sit down.
They talked about the travel ban in the US, stricter
asylum laws in Germany, and their discussion about Ukraine and Russia.
(17:45):
And here's how it went down.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
I'm right about the great big beautiful bills.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
We called it a great big beautiful bill because that's
what it is.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
And again, biggest tax cuts in history, biggest economic development
most anywhere done, anything like it. Business is spared. And
I don't know if you've seen the numbers, but the
numbers came out. Even the CBO, which is run by Democrats,
said that we're going to be doing ye know, I'd
like you to discuss it. The two point eight million
(18:14):
trillion that the CBO. This is a group of people
that are Democrats, they're very hostile to us.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
They just came out with phenomenal numbers. What it does
You want to mention that.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Scored, Yes, sir.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
So what we've seen is we keep hearing from the
CBO that there's going to be a ors deficit from
the bill, which we disagree with. But using the CBO scoring,
they came out and scored the teriff revenue. We think
it'll be the minimum of two point eight trillion over
the ten year window, which actually puts the bill in surplus.
If you include the tariff revenue, which they won't do,
(18:50):
it gives.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
You a tremendous surplus. But we're not allowed to use
that for some reason. They say scoring. Nobody knows what
scoring means.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Maybe a couple of people, but nobody somebody since in
the background they say, well, we're not going to allow that.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
They're not allowing other things that we have that are
tremendously profitable for our country. But if you saw the
other day see NBC, they came out with numbers, and
the people in the show very good people.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I've watched them for a long time. They couldn't believe
the numbers, how good they are. The numbers were incredible.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
That was personal income and also very low inflation. We
have very low inflation. We're down to two percent now
and maybe even lower than that. And when I took
it over, it was a mess. Remember, we had the
worst inflation probably in the history of our country. They
say forty eight years, but let's say that's I think
it's worse than that. So we had the worst inflation
(19:41):
in the history of our country under the Biden administration.
Now we're down to a beautiful number two percent. We'd
actually like to keep it. They're better than zero. Is
two percent, it's going down maybe to one and one
percent is like perfect, that's perfect.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
You don't want to have zero.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
For certain reasons that nobody is very interested to listen
to but we have almost perfect inflation. Grocery prices are
down everything. Remember eggs, eggs. We weren't going to buy
another egg for the next twenty years. It was so expensive. Right,
Remember you guys all hit me about eggs. Eggs have
come down four hundred percent. Everybody has eggs.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Now they have an eggs for breakfast again.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
But if you look at gasoline, very important, I think
always the most important because if the energy is a
big the biggest factor.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
That's what happened.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
He screwed up our energy policy and everything went up
because energy went up.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
But now energy is way down, and they have.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
States where you're at one dollar and ninety eight cents
a gallon for gasoline. So the costs of weight have
come way down. And one of the things I ran
on was that I ran on the border. We have
the best border in the history of our country. Ninety
nine point nine nine percent. It was last week three
people came in, two of them for medical reasons. We
(20:58):
let them in because one of them had are attack.
I think it was a nice thing to do, and
one of them had something else.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
So we've never had I had very good numbers for.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Four years, but we're really top it, and I want
to thank Christy and Tom Holman. They've done a fantastic job,
but nobody mentions that anymore. Remember a few months ago,
the border was a total disaster. People were coming in
by the hundreds of thousands of people a day, a week.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
A month.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
I mean we had a month two million people came
in in one month.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
The border was being overrun and a lot of bad people, criminals, murderers,
drug dealers.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
We had some of the worst people in the world
coming in from all over the world.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
It's totally close and you know what.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
People are coming into our country, but they're coming in legally.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
So we've done a great job.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
On your new travel Vand why now, and if the
Boulder attack was part of your reasoning, why not include
Egypt on that list where the suspects front the work?
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Well, because Egypt has been a country that we deal
with very closely. They have things under control. The countries
that we have but don't have things under control.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
And why now?
Speaker 5 (22:07):
I can say that it can't come soon enough. Frankly,
we want to keep bad people out of our country.
The Biden administration allowed some horrendous people and we're getting
them out. One by one and we're not stopping until
we get them out. We have thousands of murderers. I
even hate to say this in front of the Chancellor.
(22:27):
Of course, you have a little problem too with some
of the people that we're allowed to each country. It's
not your fault, it's not your fault. It shouldn't have happened.
I told her it shouldn't have happened what she did.
But you have your own difficulty with that, and we do.
And we're moving them out, and we're moving them out
very strongly, but it can't come fast enough.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
We want to get them out. We want to get
them out now.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
We don't want to have other bad people coming into
our country.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
But usually the word band, I'm being nice. We had
a very good talk.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
And we've straightened out any complexity. It's very complex stuff
and we straighten it out. The agreement was we're going
to have Scott and Howard and Jamison will be going
and meeting with their top people and continued forward. But no,
I think we have everything. I think we're in very
(23:15):
good shack with China and the trade deal. We have
a deal with China, as you know. But we were
straightening out some of the points having to do mostly
with rare earth magnets and some other things those produced,
trade terif rates.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
They remain in effect.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
We have the deal.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
I mean, we've had a deal.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
We announced the deal, and we'll be I guess you
could say I wouldn't even say finalizing it up Scott.
I would say we have a deal, and we're going
to just make sure that everybody understands what the deal is.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
We had a really good conversation. By the way, he
invited me to China, and I invited him here. We're
both accepted.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
So I'll be going there with the First Lady at
a certain point, and he'll be coming here, hopefully with
the First Lady of China. We want to have foreign students,
but we want them to be checked, you know, the
case of Harvard and Columbia and others.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
All we want to do is see their list. There's
no problem with that.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
This is anybody outside of our country international students, because
when we see some of the people that we've been watching,
we say, where do these people come from?
Speaker 2 (24:21):
How is that possible? No, we want to have foreign
students come.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
We're very honored by it, but we want to see
their list Harvard didn't want to give us the list
they're going to be giving us to listen, now, I
think they're starting to behave Actually, if you want to
know the truth, we just hit the highest number in
the history of our country, we think, but very close,
but the highest in the history of our country recruitment
joining the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, Coast Guard, police
(24:48):
forces all.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Over the world.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
What did you do for?
Speaker 2 (24:50):
What was through spirit?
Speaker 5 (24:52):
They love our country again, you're going to do the
same thing. The spirit we have great spirit is back
and our country and it's very simple. And you know
it was only Susie six months ago, right that you
got reports you're the one that released them that you
couldn't get anybody to join the military.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
And now we're stopped.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
Every service now is packed and we have waiting lists
of people trying to get in as good as we've
ever had in the history of our country. So that's
an honor, that's a great honor. Well, when I see
the moment when we're not going to make a deal,
when this thing won't stop, that moment, yeah, it's in
my brain, the deadline. When I see the moment where
(25:34):
it's not going to stop, and I'm sure you're going
to do the same thing. Will be very, very, very tough,
and it could be on both countries.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
To be honest, you know, it takes two to tango.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
But we're going to be very tough, whether it's Russia
or anybody else, We're going to be very tough. That
that's a blood path that's going on over there. And
when I see the moment where I say, well.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
They're going to just keep fighting.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
You know, I gave the analogy yesterday when I spoke
to President put In a two hour and fifteen minute
a goal with it. Sometimes, and this is me speaking
maybe in a negative sense, but sometimes you see two
young children fighting like crazy. They hate each other, and
they're fighting in a park and you try and pull
(26:19):
them apart.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
They don't want to be pulled.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
Sometimes you're better off letting them fight for a while
and then pulling them apart.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
And I gave that.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
Analogy to Putting yesterday. I said, President, maybe you're going
to have to keep fighting and suffering a lot, because
both signs are suffering before you pull them apart, before
they're able to be pulled apart.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
But it's a pretty known analogy. You have two kids.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
They fight, fight, fight. Sometimes you let them fight for
a little while. You see it hockey, you see it
in sports. The referees let them go for a couple
of seconds, let them go for a little while before
you pull them apart.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
And maybe maybe and.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
I said it, and maybe that's a negative because we're
saying go. But a lot of bad blood. There's some
bad blood between the two. I have to deal with it,
and the chance less to deal with it. It's incredible
the level of there's a great hatred between those two,
between those two men, but between the warring parties, great hatred.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
That was President Trump and the Chancellor of Germany, Chancellor
Merz with the President today. Eight hundred ninety four one
shown is a number if you want to be a
part of the program. We come back, we'll check in
with Colorado Congressman Jeff Crank, who is with us. He
only lives ten minutes away from this guy that was
responsible for that act of virulent anti Semitism, and frankly,
(27:43):
as far as I'm concerned, a terrorist attack on our
own soil in Boulder, Colorado. We'll talk to him and
talk about the silence, which is deafening from the left
and the squad and people like Congresswoman Omar on the
other side, and my interview with Dan Bongino, all coming
up straight ahead. As we continue, you
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