July 7, 2025 • 31 mins
Is socialism taking over New York City? Guest hosts Peter Schweizer and Eric Eggers investigate Zoran Mamdani’s stunning rise in the NYC mayoral race. With positions like defunding police, government-run grocery stores, and “seizing the means of production,” Mamdani’s platform is raising national alarm. They’re joined by political strategist Ryan Girdusky and Florida Congressman Randy Fine, who warns of the far-left’s growing influence across America. Plus: how this race ties into Epstein fallout, FBI distrust, and future Democratic strategy.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Stay right here for our final news roundup and information overload.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Boy, things are coming to a head in New York City.
I'm Peter Schweizer, that is Eric Eggers, were filling in
for Sean and you have this political earthquake that has
erupted in America's largest, most populous city, which is New York.
They may actually elect a socialist as mayor. I happen
to love New York City, although it has created so
(00:26):
many problems with self inflicted wounds, it looks like we
might be headed for another one. We want you to
join this conversation. Weren't eight hundred and nine four one seven,
three two six. Also consider subscribing to our podcast, The
Drill Down. Eric, Are you going to go to New
York anytime soon?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Well, if you're gonna go to New York, it sounds
like the time to go is in the next few
months until because unfortunately, you know, this person has won
the Democratic primary. I mean it was so bad even
you know, the New York Times did not endorse a
candidate for mayor in the Democratic primary. They just said,
don't vote for Zoran. And so what happened? Everybody did
(01:03):
Ron desantists, the governor of Florida, where we live, has
said Zoron Mam Donnie's win is the best thing that
could happen to Palm Beach real estate in Florida. I
know a lot of people who live in New York
I like you, like very much going to visit there,
and we have friends that live there, and they're all
very concerned. And I think what's going to be interesting
is to see if this kind of novelty of oh,
(01:24):
here's a guy and he ran a very localized campaign.
All the other candidates were asked, where will your first
international trip be as mayor of New York. They all said, well,
we will go to Israel, of course, and Zoron Mam
Donnie said, I'm just going to stay right here in
New York City. And that may seem some people suggest
that that's an, you know, kind of anti Semitical position,
and it's indicative of larger problematic world views you have.
(01:45):
Some people say, listen, if you're a citizen of New York,
you don't really care where your mayor's first international trip is.
You just want things to be better, You want things
to be cheaper. His candidacy is ultimately a rejection of
the failure of leftist policies. Right, and that's one of
the reasons why New York has struggling so much. Has
been run by Democrat for decades. But you know a
(02:05):
lot of people think that he will only make things worse.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, and look, who is the alternative in the primary?
The only real alternative was Andrew Cuomo, who had to
resign in disgrace. A lot of corruption scandals in his administration.
We just talked about one of his top aides indicted
BI federal authorities for operating as an unregistered agent for
the Chinese government, corruption, et cetera. So I guess it's
(02:29):
not a surprise that Indami won, But the question is
where does it go from here. He's starting to get scrutiny,
and we're going to talk about dissect some of his
positions with a guest. We're going to play some audio
CRI clips and we're going to lay out some of
the things that this guy actually believes, and then we're
going to pausit the question can this guy actually win
(02:50):
in New York?
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Well, let's talk about some of his more problematic beliefs.
I think it's cut four where he's using some phraseology
that has historic significance. Let's listen to cut for here.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
We have to continue to elect more socialists, and we
have to ensure that we are unapologetic about our socialism.
It is very critical for all of us to remember
what it is that we are fighting for and to
remember that our agenda is an agenda that must not
be dictated by calculus but by conviction. And what I
mean by that is that the many things that we believe,
(03:24):
some of them are already popular in this moment right now,
right if we're talking about the cancelation of student debt,
if we're talking about medicare for all, you know, these
are issues which have the groundswell of popular support across
this country. But then there are also other issues that
we firmly believe in, whether it's BDS right or whether
it's the end goal of seizing the means of production,
(03:47):
where we do not have the same level of support
at this variability.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah, it's unbelievable seizing the means of production. We need socialism.
This is the same thing you always wanted with Bernie Say.
And two is what part of the planet are they
looking to when they talk about socialism, Because Bernie Sanders
and Donnie will bring up oh, well, you know, we
want Scandinavian socialism from the nineteen seventies.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
They gave that up.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Forty years ago. They gave it up forty years ago.
They can't point to a single place on the planet
that is a model for what they want to do
that is actually going to work. It's really remarkable to
me that that he succeeded in winning this primarily as
handily as he did.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Well, that's why I think that this is an interesting
conversation and it's relevant not just the people in New York.
And we're gonna talk to Ryan Gooderski, who does live
in New York City. He's the host of a numbers
game podcast and he's the founder of the seventeen seventy
six Project pack. But this story I think is negative
of because you know, we're going to be going into
the mid terms next year and there's this war inside
(04:52):
the Democrat Party where mainstream Democrats are like, oh my gosh, no,
please please know because the the key thing in that
quote you just heard is that seizing the means of
production needs more support, Like most people do not support
that yet and they never will because of everything you
just said. But but Ryan, I mean now that this
(05:14):
is not just this kind of utopian socialist cool thing
to talk about in a college dorm. But he won
the dang Democratic primary. Do you feel like most New
Yorkers are waking up to just how bad this could
be for the city.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Well, the number one Googled thing after his election was
what is socialism in New York? That was the number
one Google thing. Uh. Yeah, people are worried. And there's
the reason why, despite being the Democratic nominee in a
seven to one Democratic city, his support has not in
(05:49):
any poll that I have seen, has not crossed over
forty five percent. I think the most is forty four percent,
but usually they have him in the high thirties. Not
exactly the place you want to be as the Democrat
in New York. There's large constituencies that he lost obviously
the Jewish vote, but more importantly, he's also lost the
Black vote. He lost the Bronx, He lost very large
(06:10):
areas of the Democratic Party that have been trending away
from the Democratic Party. That areas like the Bronx. You know,
it was I mean, I think that Romney got like
thirteen or twelve percent when he ran for president and
Donald Trump got twenty six percent, not you know, carrying
it away, but that's a huge, huge improvement in a
part of the city and a part of the country
(06:31):
that there's no real infrastructure of a party. All happened organically,
and people are worried by the fact that what's going
to happen to landlords? He wants to basically make sure
their lives are living hell? What happens yet to Sorry.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
No, no, yeah, I think you're right. I mean, what
do you think is the thing that scares the average
New york or the most is that the rank control
is if the government run grocery stores, is that the
sort of Islamist Palestinian stuff? What do you think is
number one on the list of most New Yorkers when
it comes to quality of life and their fear of
(07:08):
this guy?
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Well, it's crime. It's not even close. I mean, he
just sat there and said that, you know, the property
crime is not a real crime. He said that when
they were carpet bombing police cars. He said, property crime
is not a real crime. He is He has said
that a violent crime is an abstract thought, as if
it's you know, you know, is if it's something that
(07:29):
is some college professor just made up crime by far
and to support for defunding the police.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
So Ryan, I doubt if you went up, or somebody
went up and actually slugged him in the face, he
would consider that an abstract crime.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
Well, it's ironic that he hired armed security after running
for mayor, so that he did. He hired armed guards
after he ran from mayor. Why didn't he hire a
social worker or a camp counselor if that's what he
wants for the rest of the New Yorkers, it seems
very very strange that. You know, what liberals always want
(08:07):
is the fact that they want one set of rules
for them and others for other people. You know, every American,
every American under thirty five, should be angry if their
parents never made enough money off they too can be socialists,
because that's really what it is. You have to have
incredibly wealthy parents in order to sit there and strade faith,
look at your look at look around in the world,
and say, you know what we need is the economy
(08:28):
that has never produced any prosperity for any people in history,
and he wants he's creating the conditions for a very
violent future for a lot of people. A lot of
black voters never voted for Rudy Giuliani. They did not
like him when he was mayor. But no man, say
have more Black lives in New York City, And I
would argue in the United States than Rudy Giuliani while
(08:49):
he was mayor of New York because hard on crime
things they don't just you know, they're not going to
affect a wealthy community. Now for west Side, who sees
very little crime to begin with. They helped the worst people.
They help the people who are seeing violent crime on.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
A regular basis.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
They're not going to affect where Mundani's family lives in
wealth and prosperity. And that's just that's constantly what you see,
the hypocrisy of what you see from socialist.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
So ironically, now, Zeron Mundani, who claimed to be African
American on his application to Columbia, as The New York
Times reported, now faces the greatest threat I think from
a black man. Eric Adams, the current mayor, what's your
take on this movement? To try to get support to
coalesce around him. There are other candidates in this race,
including a Republican do you get that that's a real thing.
(09:38):
Or do you feel like ultimately if Zora Mundani does win,
it will be because let's say he does get enough
if other candidates are siphoning off the support from Eric Adams.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
Yeah, yeah, they have listen, they have to put the
city ahead of their party and it's side of their
own ego. That includes Cuomo, that includes Adams. All these
polls that come out, none had done a poll on
a head to head match against these candidates, all of them.
They have to do a head to head poll. Whoever
comes out first and set the first has to drop out.
(10:11):
I like Curtis Lee well a lot. He spent his
entire life fighting for safety and for public safety for
New Yorkers, and it's extremely adirable. His entire legacy goes
out the window if he sits there, refuses to drop out,
to sit there in supportment and get Mandani likeded. Hisn't
higher legacy. Everything he did is worthless.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
After that?
Speaker 5 (10:29):
What are you doing? You know? I go, they should
have a meeting and discuss who's going to be the
deputy mayor and get different commissioners, or get police chief job,
or get a parking after them. Anything that you could
possibly want just save the city. I understand Andrew Cuomo
is not ideal. He's also not a bleeding hard communist. Yeah,
(10:51):
he may have killed your grandma, but I mean he's
still not going to kill the entire city of New York.
That is what we're facing right now. And also establishing
Democrats are worried because Mandanni is going to challenge all
of them. You think that he's gonna stop with this,
He's gonna sit there and pursue an agenda for all
of New York. And I'll say this to non New Yorkers,
You're going to pay for failing for a failing city. Eventually,
(11:13):
Eventually these voters are going to move to your state
and carry their bad ideas with them, or they're going
to need some kind of federal bailout. That's just the
you know, we don't leave. We're not going to leave
the biggest city in the country to just rot because
their voters picked bad leaders. That's happened in New York
for you know, forever. You know, but this is going
to be epic proportion and it's going to be very
(11:35):
bad for the entire country. We really need to get
serious in this moment, because if we don't, the biggest
city in this country is going to go by the
wayside and we just can't afford it.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
We've been talking to Ryan Godorski. He is has a podcast,
a numbers Game. He's the host of that podcast. He's
also the founder of the seventeen seventy six Podge Project
pack and he lives in New York City, so he's
concerned about this. Ryan, we appreciate you joining us. I
guess Eric, it leads to the larger question, is this
(12:06):
a leading indicator of what to expect in the larger
Democratic Party. We've seen that AOC is thinking about running
in twenty twenty eight for president. You certainly see a
lot of progressives. I'm looking to potentially challenge more centrist
Democrats if there are any out there anymore, with more
progressive left wing candidates. Of course, David Hogg at the
(12:29):
DNC a big story about that. What's your sense, Eric,
about whether this is going to have national implications? Ryan
makes a great point. If this happens in New York,
we're all gonna end up paying for it, because we're
gonna have to bail them out. But the larger political
implications what do you think.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
I think that you're seeing that the number of New
York Democrats come together against Montdaanie shows that there is
not widespread popular peal in nationwide. I saw one person
say socialism has only turned blue areas more socialists that's
never turned red areas blue. And I think they get
that this is not a winning strategy nationally, which is
(13:03):
why I think you're going to see interesting support. You know,
you're going to have New York Republicans and the editorial
board of the New York Times agree on something which
doesn't happen very often. We'd love to hear from you
about this. Join the conversation, give us a call. It's
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(13:25):
or on Twitter at the drill Down one. We write
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Speaker 2 (13:32):
It's Peter Schweitzer sitting here with Eric Eggers. We're filling
in on the Sean Hannerity Show. Yeah. I mean we
were talking earlier about the situation in New York City,
a dramatic tournament left the Democratic nominee an out and
out socialist. Used to be the day. I remember the
days when Bill Clinton and Democrats said, no, the way
we win elections is to move to the center. It
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seems to me that Democrats are pushing the progressive side.
That's where the energy is, that's where the drive is.
We talked about a story earlier that Axios was quoting
Democrat officials saying that we actually want to have shootings
at ice protests because it will galvanize our side. It's scary. Frankly,
you know, let's fight over the middle. What Trump is
(14:14):
doing is proposing policy solutions that is peeling off Democrats,
is peeling off minority communities. He's not getting that by
being radical. He's getting that by moving to the center
on these bread and bud issues. The Democrats are not
doing the same thing.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
The quotes from this Axious article quoting unnamed House Democrat
officials and elected officials says, quote, our own base is
telling us that we're not doing a good enough job.
There needs to be blood to grab the attention of
the press and the public. Quote civility isn't working. We
have to prepare for violence to fight to protect our democracy.
They said, you have to be willing to get shot
(14:48):
when visiting ice facilities or federal agencies. So, I mean,
to your point, they see candidates like Zora and Mandani
as where the energy is and at a time when
the Democratic Party is essentially a drift at sea with
no leader. Unfortunately, he's going to become something of a
national figure only because New York is such an important
(15:09):
city and he's going to get a ton of attention
and people are hungry for or anything like that that
they think can help them win elections.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
And think about what they're saying. They're saying to fight
quote unquote fascism, we need blood spilled to protect democracy.
I mean, what a what an insane idea. It's it's
it's really truly remarkable. Well, at the bottom of the hour,
we're going to be joined by Congressman Randy Fine. He
is a Congressman from the great state of Florida. We're
going to talk about the passage of the Big Beautiful Bill.
(15:37):
We're probably also going to talk a little bit about
Israel and the global situation. We want you to join
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I'm here with Eric Eggers. We're filling in for Sean.
(15:58):
We appreciate him of giving us the microphone. We appreciate
Linda and the producers for giving us this opportunity. We
wanted to talk to somebody who is in the belly
of the beast in Washington, DC, and who's there new
He's only been there for a few months, got there
through the special election in Florida, and we want to
talk to Congressman Randy Fine, and we want to talk
(16:21):
to him about several subjects. Congressman, thanks for joining.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Us, Thanks for having me honored to be here.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Well, first of all, tell us about the big beautiful bill.
What is the most important part of that legislation in
your mind, and what is the most the part that's
misunderstood or that has been misrepresented the most Well.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
I think the most important thing. And I say it's
most important because it's something weak conservatives have wanted for
decades but have never been able to get. And that
is the final feeling of the border, building the wall,
increasing ice, increasing custom so that we can make sure
that illegal stop coming. Democrats always said they'd give us
border security if we gave amnesty to tens of millions
(17:06):
of people. We now got everything we wanted and we
had to give them nothing. So that's why that one's
so important. I think the most misunderstood thing about the
bill is what we did with medicaid. People are saying
we've cut medicaid. We've cut medicaid. It's just not true.
We've cut medicaid to people who shouldn't have it, illegal immigrants.
I know Democrats want to give the legal immigrants medicaid.
I want a legal immigrants to go home, but they
(17:29):
shouldn't have medicaid. And people who can work. You know,
if you are an able bodied, childless adult, you need
to get off your button. You need to go get
a job. And I'm excited that we're taking Medicaid away
from those people. But the people who Medicaid was for
a kid with special needs, somebody who loses their job
and needs health insurance while they're looking for a new one.
We didn't make any changes there, and so that's I
(17:51):
think the most misunderstood part about the bill.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
It's not been very long since you've been in Congress.
I know you used to work in the Florida Legislae.
As you're in Tallahassee where we are broadcasting from right now,
and so you know, as we'd like to say, the
cesspool hasn't become a spa yet for you, Representative Fine,
what's been the thing about being in Washington, DC that
surprised you the most?
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Well, actually, I'll tell you, as bad as I thought
it was going to be, it's it's worse. I mean,
I feel like Rome is on fire and all people
to do is roast marshmallows in the flames. There's willingness
to talk about problems, but in terms of solving them,
not as much. Now. Look, maybe all the energy went
(18:36):
into getting President Trump's bill over the finish line, and
it's a big deal, and I fully support that, But
I just see a lot of emphasis on speeches that
nobody listens to. I love to talk, but you know
what I like more than talking, I like people listening.
And the number of speeches people give to an empty
room it boggles my mind.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Well, in fairness, if you give it a couple of
years and your portfolio increases significantly, you might find DC
to be more hospital just based on our track record.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Because look, I'm here because President Trump asked me to
be here. I'm not supposed to be here. I wasn't
looking to come here. I got elected to the Flora
Senate just last November. And I'm here really because I
believe that our country is on a bad path and
I think President Trump and the Republican Congress is our
last best chance to fix it. I'm here for my
(19:25):
kids and everybody liked them, and I want to make
sure there's an America for them to inherit well.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
A Congressman, fine, we appreciate that, and we have dealt
with people in Washington who actually do walk the walk,
and we appreciate your openness and your transparency on that.
Where does this go in the future in terms of
the Republican Party, this bill barely passed. There are some
people like Senator Ron Johnson, who we know in respect,
(19:52):
who felt like it didn't go far enough in terms
of certain cuts. And the question is always asked, Republicans
are now in charge of the House of the Senate
and we've got the White House. Surely at this time,
we should be able to start to get a handle
on federal spending. Do you feel that the bill actually
does that? Did you want more cuts? And what are
the prospects. We got this one through, but what are
(20:14):
the prospects the next time this comes around next year?
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Sure? Well, the reason the bill barely passes because almost
half of Congress's Democrats and they don't care about the
future of the country. They just want to give three
stuff to illegals. We had to basically get every Republican
to vote for it, and that's a pretty hard thing
to do. I have told people one Big Beautiful Bill
is not only big beautiful bill. I think America was
(20:40):
on the one yard line when Donald Trump got elected.
And that's not one yard to a touchdown, that's ninety
nine to a touchdown. The one Big Beautiful Bill takes
us from the one to the eleven. It gets us
a first down, and it gets us moving in the
right direction. But we still have eighty nine yards to go,
and we have a lot of spending to cut. That's
why we need the Senate to pass the recision bill
(21:00):
that we passed in the House a couple of weeks
ago that said no more NPR and no more ridiculous
foreign aid for transgender clinics in Uganda or whatever dumb
ideas the Democrats came up with. And then we have
to keep cutting because that is the solution or problems.
We've got to cut trillions of dollars. And Speaker Johnson
has said there will be more reconciliation bills during this Congress,
(21:22):
but this was the start, not the end.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
How does it work in terms of the negotiations? We
on our podcast we've interviewed Congressmanship Roy and he talked
about how, you know, he was very much against this bill,
at least initially because of the spending that happens. Like, what,
how does it work in the negotiations when somebody like
yourself or somebody maybe more fiscally conservative, you don't like
the idea of what the projections are, the increases to
(21:48):
the debt and then the deficit spending. So what does
Speaker Johnson do to get somebody from a no to
a yes?
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Well, you're asking the wrong guy. I'm the new guy,
and nobody really cares what I think. You know, it's
my job to change that over time. But I took
a different approach I said, I'm here because of President Trump.
He is the leader of our party and we have
to show that we can govern. And I think about
things in terms of are we better passing this than not.
(22:20):
I don't let perfect be the enemy of the good.
And when I looked at the bill, I said, this
is better than the status quo. So it wasn't a
hard decision to vote for it. I think some of
my colleagues get focused on is is it perfection? It
doesn't have to be. We don't have You don't have
to throw a hail Mary pass on every play. You
get the first down and then you play for the
(22:41):
next first down. And this did it. So in terms
of those negotiations, I don't know, but I will tell
you one of the things I've learned in Washington, which
I don't like, is kind of causing trouble gets you attention,
kind of going being part of the team, you often
get ignored and and I don't like that part of
it because I'm a I believe politics should be a
team sport. I'm on Team Trump, and that's what I
(23:03):
want to see happen, and that's what I'm fighting to
make sure happens.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yeah, they kind of do reward people that you know,
try to hold out to the last minute. We're talking
with Congressman Randy Fine, a newly elected member of Congress.
He's been there for a few months a special election
here in Florida. We've been talking about the big beautiful Bill.
I want to shift gears a little bit, Congressman and
talk about the situation in the Middle East. We know
that Benjamin Nett and Yahoo and Trump are getting together
(23:30):
to meet, and it seems to me I supported what
Trump did in the Middle East. I thought it was necessary.
With Iran, he's been very supportive I think of Israel,
and rightfully so, there does seem to be a little
bit of difference in terms of what the end goal
is here. It seems like Net and Yahoo in Israel,
and I understand why want to kind of finish the
(23:50):
job with Iran at least by continuing sustained attacks, to
continue to diminish their military capabilities. Trump sort of created
this cease five situation that may or may not hold.
But what is your take. You've been outspoken on this issue.
What is your take on the relationship between Israel and
(24:10):
specifically between Net and Yahoo and Trump? Is there daylight
there or do you think that they are locked in Unison?
Speaker 1 (24:17):
So yeah, you guys know you're in Tallahassee. I was
the only Jewish Republican in the Florida Legislature. I'm one
of only four up here, and I got the nickname
the Hebrew Hammer because I'm not afraid and punch hard.
Look my take is this, I think the United States
needs to make sure Iran doesn't get a nuclear weapon
because that's a risk to us, and in that we're
(24:38):
lockstep with Israel. I think Israel would probably like to
see regime change in Iran, which frankly I'd like as well,
but I think that's the Iranians problem to do that.
As long as Iran can't bother America, then then that's
where our our problem ends. But I think BB is
also here to talk about how you bring Gaza in
for a landing and Judea and Samaria. Just to continue
(25:01):
to make sure that American Israeli relationship is important because
we have no better ally in the world than Israel.
We get so much technology from them. They invent so
many things that we use in our everyday lives. Their
values are similar to ours and Frankly, they're fighting the
fight that we would have to if they weren't around.
(25:21):
If you look at what happened in Iran, all they
asked us to do was to do the one thing
they couldn't. They didn't have the technology of those bunk
or busting bombs that we did. But everything else they said,
we got this.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
We're good.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
So I mean, that's the kind of partner we should want.
In America, we always get accused of being the world's policemen. Well,
in that part of the world, they're willing to do
the job. They just needed this one thing from us,
and I'm glad the President did it.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
At the beginning of this hour, we interviewed somebody in
New York City recovering the Zoron Mamdani campaign and the
fact that New York Times is now coming out with
some information about his college application and lies in this
interesting coalescing of coalitions who don't seem to have a
lot in common other than the fact that they don't
think Zoron Mondani's gonna be good for New York City.
(26:09):
You tweeted that what some of the shakes in Iran
have done is what Zoron Mondani will do to New
York City. Why do you think he is so dangerous.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Well, he's a Muslim terrorist who's also a socialist. Everyone
focuses on the socialist part, but it's like an all
you can eat a bad Forget his political views. The
guys worked for three years. They've got no job experience
running the most important city in the world. And he
wants to have government grocery source, government housing, government everything.
But look, he hates Israel. He will not stand away
(26:42):
from globalize the Antifada, which has led to people being
killed in the United States. He believes in radical Islam,
which is the cause of so many problems, not only
in the world, but in our country. He would legitimize
what happened on our college campuses everywhere. And the fact
of the matter is radical Islam is a huge problem
in this country and it is one that we have
(27:03):
been unwilling to deal with. I'm willing to deal with it.
I say all the time, we have a Muslim problem
in this country. Doesn't mean all Muslims are terrorists. They aren't.
But it's also not true that one percent of them
are terrorists. It's a meaningful percentage, and the polling shows
that and Mandami would legitimize all of those people who
want to do bad things in this country.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Well, it seems to me that in the Middle East
you have a civilizational struggle that's taking place between Israel,
which is a liberal democracy and does a lot to
try to incorporate people into a society, and you have
these theocratic rulers and these terrorist groups. And in a
certain sense, this is kind of being replayed in American politics.
(27:46):
We're talking with Congressman Randy Fine. It's interesting to me
that you have this really odd coalition of frankl Is
Islamists that have found this way to partner with progressives.
So you have people like Linda Sarsor, you have people
like AOC that's literally going to events that are held
by Islamist groups where the men and women have to
(28:10):
sit separately, the women have their heads covered. And yet
you have people like AOC and people on the left
talking about abortion rights, talking about all these things that
really have nothing in common with the Islamists. The one
thing that seems to unite them is a hatred for
Western civilization. What's your thought on this odd coalition we're
(28:31):
seeing with the race in the mayor race, in New
York and in the left in general in the United States, well.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
They call it the Red Green Alliance, the association of
sort of hard left communists and Islamists. But I want
to challenge one thing you said. You talked about a
war of civilization in Israel. It ain't just there. Look
at Europe, look at what they want to do here,
Look at the city they want to build in Texas.
Look at all the Imams who talk about taking over America.
(29:01):
I mean, this is all over the world. It's not
just over there. It's just it's just worst over there.
And I think part of the issue for liberals, I
often say, conservatives live in the world the way it is.
Liberals live in the world the way they wish it was.
And so the notion that you know, you've got queers
for Palestine, I mean, it's just it's delusional thinking. The
(29:22):
other thing my dad often says to me, he goes, Randy,
if they were smart, they wouldn't be liberal. And so
you know that that's part of what's going on. It's
this delusional intersection. And the funny thing for all these
liberals is if the Muslim terrorists ever took control, they'd
line them up and shoot them. You know, all all
the gay people would be killed. The women who wouldn't,
(29:42):
who wouldn't, you know, cover themselves in a burka. They'd
get beaten up, just like they do in Iran. So
it doesn't even make any sense, this alliance. But they
hate Western civilization, they hate Jews, they hate America, and
they use that to bind themselves together.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
He is Representative Randy. He is from Flora. You can
hear why he was asked to run for Congress by
President Donald Trump. He's been our guest here on the
Shawan Handy Show. Representative Fine, thank you so much. Congratulations
on the passage of the big beautiful Bill, and good
luck in the next eighty nine yards in the rest
of your congressional tenure. Thanks so much for joining us today.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Thanks for having me. Good luck guys.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
He's Peter Schweitzer, I Americ Eggers. This has been an
interview with Randy Fine. It's we've covered a lot man.
You know, normally we do these shows and it's summertime,
you expect to be loosleep. It's been a busy, busy
day on the Seawan Handy Show. We'll have some parting
thoughts and we'll come back right after this.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Peter Schweitzer and Eric Eggers, we've been filling in for
Sean Hannity. We cover the waterfront today, corruption, we dealt
with the rise of socialism in America. The one thing
we neglected to Mension is what we celebrated three days ago,
which is the birth of our country. And we live
in the greatest country on the planet, hands down, even
with all the problems in the corrupt leadership we have.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Well, it's absolutely true, and I think we try to highlight,
you know, the things that make this country better. We
try to bring transparency, whether it's when we're feeling it
for Sean on this program or on the podcast that
we do, The Drill Down, which we'd love for you
to subscribe to you at the drill Down dot com.
You can follow us on Twitter at at the drill
Down one. But absolutely it is the greatest country in
the world and as an honor to be able to
talk to the people who live in it each time
(31:18):
we get to host this shows. Thank you, Linda, great job,
thank you Peter Schweizer, and thanks to all of you
for listening. We'll talk to you next time.
Stay right here for our final news roundup and information overload.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Boy, things are coming to a head in New York City.
I'm Peter Schweizer, that is Eric Eggers, were filling in
for Sean and you have this political earthquake that has
erupted in America's largest, most populous city, which is New York.
They may actually elect a socialist as mayor. I happen
to love New York City, although it has created so
(00:26):
many problems with self inflicted wounds, it looks like we
might be headed for another one. We want you to
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Drill Down. Eric, Are you going to go to New
York anytime soon?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Well, if you're gonna go to New York, it sounds
like the time to go is in the next few
months until because unfortunately, you know, this person has won
the Democratic primary. I mean it was so bad even
you know, the New York Times did not endorse a
candidate for mayor in the Democratic primary. They just said,
don't vote for Zoran. And so what happened? Everybody did
(01:03):
Ron desantists, the governor of Florida, where we live, has
said Zoron Mam Donnie's win is the best thing that
could happen to Palm Beach real estate in Florida. I
know a lot of people who live in New York
I like you, like very much going to visit there,
and we have friends that live there, and they're all
very concerned. And I think what's going to be interesting
is to see if this kind of novelty of oh,
(01:24):
here's a guy and he ran a very localized campaign.
All the other candidates were asked, where will your first
international trip be as mayor of New York. They all said, well,
we will go to Israel, of course, and Zoron Mam
Donnie said, I'm just going to stay right here in
New York City. And that may seem some people suggest
that that's an, you know, kind of anti Semitical position,
and it's indicative of larger problematic world views you have.
(01:45):
Some people say, listen, if you're a citizen of New York,
you don't really care where your mayor's first international trip is.
You just want things to be better, You want things
to be cheaper. His candidacy is ultimately a rejection of
the failure of leftist policies. Right, and that's one of
the reasons why New York has struggling so much. Has
been run by Democrat for decades. But you know a
(02:05):
lot of people think that he will only make things worse.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, and look, who is the alternative in the primary?
The only real alternative was Andrew Cuomo, who had to
resign in disgrace. A lot of corruption scandals in his administration.
We just talked about one of his top aides indicted
BI federal authorities for operating as an unregistered agent for
the Chinese government, corruption, et cetera. So I guess it's
(02:29):
not a surprise that Indami won, But the question is
where does it go from here. He's starting to get scrutiny,
and we're going to talk about dissect some of his
positions with a guest. We're going to play some audio
CRI clips and we're going to lay out some of
the things that this guy actually believes, and then we're
going to pausit the question can this guy actually win
(02:50):
in New York?
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Well, let's talk about some of his more problematic beliefs.
I think it's cut four where he's using some phraseology
that has historic significance. Let's listen to cut for here.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
We have to continue to elect more socialists, and we
have to ensure that we are unapologetic about our socialism.
It is very critical for all of us to remember
what it is that we are fighting for and to
remember that our agenda is an agenda that must not
be dictated by calculus but by conviction. And what I
mean by that is that the many things that we believe,
(03:24):
some of them are already popular in this moment right now,
right if we're talking about the cancelation of student debt,
if we're talking about medicare for all, you know, these
are issues which have the groundswell of popular support across
this country. But then there are also other issues that
we firmly believe in, whether it's BDS right or whether
it's the end goal of seizing the means of production,
(03:47):
where we do not have the same level of support
at this variability.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah, it's unbelievable seizing the means of production. We need socialism.
This is the same thing you always wanted with Bernie Say.
And two is what part of the planet are they
looking to when they talk about socialism, Because Bernie Sanders
and Donnie will bring up oh, well, you know, we
want Scandinavian socialism from the nineteen seventies.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
They gave that up.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Forty years ago. They gave it up forty years ago.
They can't point to a single place on the planet
that is a model for what they want to do
that is actually going to work. It's really remarkable to
me that that he succeeded in winning this primarily as
handily as he did.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Well, that's why I think that this is an interesting
conversation and it's relevant not just the people in New York.
And we're gonna talk to Ryan Gooderski, who does live
in New York City. He's the host of a numbers
game podcast and he's the founder of the seventeen seventy
six Project pack. But this story I think is negative
of because you know, we're going to be going into
the mid terms next year and there's this war inside
(04:52):
the Democrat Party where mainstream Democrats are like, oh my gosh, no,
please please know because the the key thing in that
quote you just heard is that seizing the means of
production needs more support, Like most people do not support
that yet and they never will because of everything you
just said. But but Ryan, I mean now that this
(05:14):
is not just this kind of utopian socialist cool thing
to talk about in a college dorm. But he won
the dang Democratic primary. Do you feel like most New
Yorkers are waking up to just how bad this could
be for the city.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Well, the number one Googled thing after his election was
what is socialism in New York? That was the number
one Google thing. Uh. Yeah, people are worried. And there's
the reason why, despite being the Democratic nominee in a
seven to one Democratic city, his support has not in
(05:49):
any poll that I have seen, has not crossed over
forty five percent. I think the most is forty four percent,
but usually they have him in the high thirties. Not
exactly the place you want to be as the Democrat
in New York. There's large constituencies that he lost obviously
the Jewish vote, but more importantly, he's also lost the
Black vote. He lost the Bronx, He lost very large
(06:10):
areas of the Democratic Party that have been trending away
from the Democratic Party. That areas like the Bronx. You know,
it was I mean, I think that Romney got like
thirteen or twelve percent when he ran for president and
Donald Trump got twenty six percent, not you know, carrying
it away, but that's a huge, huge improvement in a
part of the city and a part of the country
(06:31):
that there's no real infrastructure of a party. All happened organically,
and people are worried by the fact that what's going
to happen to landlords? He wants to basically make sure
their lives are living hell? What happens yet to Sorry.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
No, no, yeah, I think you're right. I mean, what
do you think is the thing that scares the average
New york or the most is that the rank control
is if the government run grocery stores, is that the
sort of Islamist Palestinian stuff? What do you think is
number one on the list of most New Yorkers when
it comes to quality of life and their fear of
(07:08):
this guy?
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Well, it's crime. It's not even close. I mean, he
just sat there and said that, you know, the property
crime is not a real crime. He said that when
they were carpet bombing police cars. He said, property crime
is not a real crime. He is He has said
that a violent crime is an abstract thought, as if
it's you know, you know, is if it's something that
(07:29):
is some college professor just made up crime by far
and to support for defunding the police.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
So Ryan, I doubt if you went up, or somebody
went up and actually slugged him in the face, he
would consider that an abstract crime.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
Well, it's ironic that he hired armed security after running
for mayor, so that he did. He hired armed guards
after he ran from mayor. Why didn't he hire a
social worker or a camp counselor if that's what he
wants for the rest of the New Yorkers, it seems
very very strange that. You know, what liberals always want
(08:07):
is the fact that they want one set of rules
for them and others for other people. You know, every American,
every American under thirty five, should be angry if their
parents never made enough money off they too can be socialists,
because that's really what it is. You have to have
incredibly wealthy parents in order to sit there and strade faith,
look at your look at look around in the world,
and say, you know what we need is the economy
(08:28):
that has never produced any prosperity for any people in history,
and he wants he's creating the conditions for a very
violent future for a lot of people. A lot of
black voters never voted for Rudy Giuliani. They did not
like him when he was mayor. But no man, say
have more Black lives in New York City, And I
would argue in the United States than Rudy Giuliani while
(08:49):
he was mayor of New York because hard on crime
things they don't just you know, they're not going to
affect a wealthy community. Now for west Side, who sees
very little crime to begin with. They helped the worst people.
They help the people who are seeing violent crime on.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
A regular basis.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
They're not going to affect where Mundani's family lives in
wealth and prosperity. And that's just that's constantly what you see,
the hypocrisy of what you see from socialist.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
So ironically, now, Zeron Mundani, who claimed to be African
American on his application to Columbia, as The New York
Times reported, now faces the greatest threat I think from
a black man. Eric Adams, the current mayor, what's your
take on this movement? To try to get support to
coalesce around him. There are other candidates in this race,
including a Republican do you get that that's a real thing.
(09:38):
Or do you feel like ultimately if Zora Mundani does win,
it will be because let's say he does get enough
if other candidates are siphoning off the support from Eric Adams.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
Yeah, yeah, they have listen, they have to put the
city ahead of their party and it's side of their
own ego. That includes Cuomo, that includes Adams. All these
polls that come out, none had done a poll on
a head to head match against these candidates, all of them.
They have to do a head to head poll. Whoever
comes out first and set the first has to drop out.
(10:11):
I like Curtis Lee well a lot. He spent his
entire life fighting for safety and for public safety for
New Yorkers, and it's extremely adirable. His entire legacy goes
out the window if he sits there, refuses to drop out,
to sit there in supportment and get Mandani likeded. Hisn't
higher legacy. Everything he did is worthless.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
After that?
Speaker 5 (10:29):
What are you doing? You know? I go, they should
have a meeting and discuss who's going to be the
deputy mayor and get different commissioners, or get police chief job,
or get a parking after them. Anything that you could
possibly want just save the city. I understand Andrew Cuomo
is not ideal. He's also not a bleeding hard communist. Yeah,
(10:51):
he may have killed your grandma, but I mean he's
still not going to kill the entire city of New York.
That is what we're facing right now. And also establishing
Democrats are worried because Mandanni is going to challenge all
of them. You think that he's gonna stop with this,
He's gonna sit there and pursue an agenda for all
of New York. And I'll say this to non New Yorkers,
You're going to pay for failing for a failing city. Eventually,
(11:13):
Eventually these voters are going to move to your state
and carry their bad ideas with them, or they're going
to need some kind of federal bailout. That's just the
you know, we don't leave. We're not going to leave
the biggest city in the country to just rot because
their voters picked bad leaders. That's happened in New York
for you know, forever. You know, but this is going
to be epic proportion and it's going to be very
(11:35):
bad for the entire country. We really need to get
serious in this moment, because if we don't, the biggest
city in this country is going to go by the
wayside and we just can't afford it.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
We've been talking to Ryan Godorski. He is has a podcast,
a numbers Game. He's the host of that podcast. He's
also the founder of the seventeen seventy six Podge Project
pack and he lives in New York City, so he's
concerned about this. Ryan, we appreciate you joining us. I
guess Eric, it leads to the larger question, is this
(12:06):
a leading indicator of what to expect in the larger
Democratic Party. We've seen that AOC is thinking about running
in twenty twenty eight for president. You certainly see a
lot of progressives. I'm looking to potentially challenge more centrist
Democrats if there are any out there anymore, with more
progressive left wing candidates. Of course, David Hogg at the
(12:29):
DNC a big story about that. What's your sense, Eric,
about whether this is going to have national implications? Ryan
makes a great point. If this happens in New York,
we're all gonna end up paying for it, because we're
gonna have to bail them out. But the larger political
implications what do you think.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
I think that you're seeing that the number of New
York Democrats come together against Montdaanie shows that there is
not widespread popular peal in nationwide. I saw one person
say socialism has only turned blue areas more socialists that's
never turned red areas blue. And I think they get
that this is not a winning strategy nationally, which is
(13:03):
why I think you're going to see interesting support. You know,
you're going to have New York Republicans and the editorial
board of the New York Times agree on something which
doesn't happen very often. We'd love to hear from you
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(13:25):
or on Twitter at the drill Down one. We write
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Speaker 2 (13:32):
It's Peter Schweitzer sitting here with Eric Eggers. We're filling
in on the Sean Hannerity Show. Yeah. I mean we
were talking earlier about the situation in New York City,
a dramatic tournament left the Democratic nominee an out and
out socialist. Used to be the day. I remember the
days when Bill Clinton and Democrats said, no, the way
we win elections is to move to the center. It
(13:52):
seems to me that Democrats are pushing the progressive side.
That's where the energy is, that's where the drive is.
We talked about a story earlier that Axios was quoting
Democrat officials saying that we actually want to have shootings
at ice protests because it will galvanize our side. It's scary. Frankly,
you know, let's fight over the middle. What Trump is
(14:14):
doing is proposing policy solutions that is peeling off Democrats,
is peeling off minority communities. He's not getting that by
being radical. He's getting that by moving to the center
on these bread and bud issues. The Democrats are not
doing the same thing.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
The quotes from this Axious article quoting unnamed House Democrat
officials and elected officials says, quote, our own base is
telling us that we're not doing a good enough job.
There needs to be blood to grab the attention of
the press and the public. Quote civility isn't working. We
have to prepare for violence to fight to protect our democracy.
They said, you have to be willing to get shot
(14:48):
when visiting ice facilities or federal agencies. So, I mean,
to your point, they see candidates like Zora and Mandani
as where the energy is and at a time when
the Democratic Party is essentially a drift at sea with
no leader. Unfortunately, he's going to become something of a
national figure only because New York is such an important
(15:09):
city and he's going to get a ton of attention
and people are hungry for or anything like that that
they think can help them win elections.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
And think about what they're saying. They're saying to fight
quote unquote fascism, we need blood spilled to protect democracy.
I mean, what a what an insane idea. It's it's
it's really truly remarkable. Well, at the bottom of the hour,
we're going to be joined by Congressman Randy Fine. He
is a Congressman from the great state of Florida. We're
going to talk about the passage of the Big Beautiful Bill.
(15:37):
We're probably also going to talk a little bit about
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(15:58):
We appreciate him of giving us the microphone. We appreciate
Linda and the producers for giving us this opportunity. We
wanted to talk to somebody who is in the belly
of the beast in Washington, DC, and who's there new
He's only been there for a few months, got there
through the special election in Florida, and we want to
talk to Congressman Randy Fine, and we want to talk
(16:21):
to him about several subjects. Congressman, thanks for joining.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Us, Thanks for having me honored to be here.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Well, first of all, tell us about the big beautiful bill.
What is the most important part of that legislation in
your mind, and what is the most the part that's
misunderstood or that has been misrepresented the most Well.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
I think the most important thing. And I say it's
most important because it's something weak conservatives have wanted for
decades but have never been able to get. And that
is the final feeling of the border, building the wall,
increasing ice, increasing custom so that we can make sure
that illegal stop coming. Democrats always said they'd give us
border security if we gave amnesty to tens of millions
(17:06):
of people. We now got everything we wanted and we
had to give them nothing. So that's why that one's
so important. I think the most misunderstood thing about the
bill is what we did with medicaid. People are saying
we've cut medicaid. We've cut medicaid. It's just not true.
We've cut medicaid to people who shouldn't have it, illegal immigrants.
I know Democrats want to give the legal immigrants medicaid.
I want a legal immigrants to go home, but they
(17:29):
shouldn't have medicaid. And people who can work. You know,
if you are an able bodied, childless adult, you need
to get off your button. You need to go get
a job. And I'm excited that we're taking Medicaid away
from those people. But the people who Medicaid was for
a kid with special needs, somebody who loses their job
and needs health insurance while they're looking for a new one.
We didn't make any changes there, and so that's I
(17:51):
think the most misunderstood part about the bill.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
It's not been very long since you've been in Congress.
I know you used to work in the Florida Legislae.
As you're in Tallahassee where we are broadcasting from right now,
and so you know, as we'd like to say, the
cesspool hasn't become a spa yet for you, Representative Fine,
what's been the thing about being in Washington, DC that
surprised you the most?
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Well, actually, I'll tell you, as bad as I thought
it was going to be, it's it's worse. I mean,
I feel like Rome is on fire and all people
to do is roast marshmallows in the flames. There's willingness
to talk about problems, but in terms of solving them,
not as much. Now. Look, maybe all the energy went
(18:36):
into getting President Trump's bill over the finish line, and
it's a big deal, and I fully support that, But
I just see a lot of emphasis on speeches that
nobody listens to. I love to talk, but you know
what I like more than talking, I like people listening.
And the number of speeches people give to an empty
room it boggles my mind.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Well, in fairness, if you give it a couple of
years and your portfolio increases significantly, you might find DC
to be more hospital just based on our track record.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Because look, I'm here because President Trump asked me to
be here. I'm not supposed to be here. I wasn't
looking to come here. I got elected to the Flora
Senate just last November. And I'm here really because I
believe that our country is on a bad path and
I think President Trump and the Republican Congress is our
last best chance to fix it. I'm here for my
(19:25):
kids and everybody liked them, and I want to make
sure there's an America for them to inherit well.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
A Congressman, fine, we appreciate that, and we have dealt
with people in Washington who actually do walk the walk,
and we appreciate your openness and your transparency on that.
Where does this go in the future in terms of
the Republican Party, this bill barely passed. There are some
people like Senator Ron Johnson, who we know in respect,
(19:52):
who felt like it didn't go far enough in terms
of certain cuts. And the question is always asked, Republicans
are now in charge of the House of the Senate
and we've got the White House. Surely at this time,
we should be able to start to get a handle
on federal spending. Do you feel that the bill actually
does that? Did you want more cuts? And what are
the prospects. We got this one through, but what are
(20:14):
the prospects the next time this comes around next year?
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Sure? Well, the reason the bill barely passes because almost
half of Congress's Democrats and they don't care about the
future of the country. They just want to give three
stuff to illegals. We had to basically get every Republican
to vote for it, and that's a pretty hard thing
to do. I have told people one Big Beautiful Bill
is not only big beautiful bill. I think America was
(20:40):
on the one yard line when Donald Trump got elected.
And that's not one yard to a touchdown, that's ninety
nine to a touchdown. The one Big Beautiful Bill takes
us from the one to the eleven. It gets us
a first down, and it gets us moving in the
right direction. But we still have eighty nine yards to go,
and we have a lot of spending to cut. That's
why we need the Senate to pass the recision bill
(21:00):
that we passed in the House a couple of weeks
ago that said no more NPR and no more ridiculous
foreign aid for transgender clinics in Uganda or whatever dumb
ideas the Democrats came up with. And then we have
to keep cutting because that is the solution or problems.
We've got to cut trillions of dollars. And Speaker Johnson
has said there will be more reconciliation bills during this Congress,
(21:22):
but this was the start, not the end.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
How does it work in terms of the negotiations? We
on our podcast we've interviewed Congressmanship Roy and he talked
about how, you know, he was very much against this bill,
at least initially because of the spending that happens. Like, what,
how does it work in the negotiations when somebody like
yourself or somebody maybe more fiscally conservative, you don't like
the idea of what the projections are, the increases to
(21:48):
the debt and then the deficit spending. So what does
Speaker Johnson do to get somebody from a no to
a yes?
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Well, you're asking the wrong guy. I'm the new guy,
and nobody really cares what I think. You know, it's
my job to change that over time. But I took
a different approach I said, I'm here because of President Trump.
He is the leader of our party and we have
to show that we can govern. And I think about
things in terms of are we better passing this than not.
(22:20):
I don't let perfect be the enemy of the good.
And when I looked at the bill, I said, this
is better than the status quo. So it wasn't a
hard decision to vote for it. I think some of
my colleagues get focused on is is it perfection? It
doesn't have to be. We don't have You don't have
to throw a hail Mary pass on every play. You
get the first down and then you play for the
(22:41):
next first down. And this did it. So in terms
of those negotiations, I don't know, but I will tell
you one of the things I've learned in Washington, which
I don't like, is kind of causing trouble gets you attention,
kind of going being part of the team, you often
get ignored and and I don't like that part of
it because I'm a I believe politics should be a
team sport. I'm on Team Trump, and that's what I
(23:03):
want to see happen, and that's what I'm fighting to
make sure happens.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yeah, they kind of do reward people that you know,
try to hold out to the last minute. We're talking
with Congressman Randy Fine, a newly elected member of Congress.
He's been there for a few months a special election
here in Florida. We've been talking about the big beautiful Bill.
I want to shift gears a little bit, Congressman and
talk about the situation in the Middle East. We know
that Benjamin Nett and Yahoo and Trump are getting together
(23:30):
to meet, and it seems to me I supported what
Trump did in the Middle East. I thought it was necessary.
With Iran, he's been very supportive I think of Israel,
and rightfully so, there does seem to be a little
bit of difference in terms of what the end goal
is here. It seems like Net and Yahoo in Israel,
and I understand why want to kind of finish the
(23:50):
job with Iran at least by continuing sustained attacks, to
continue to diminish their military capabilities. Trump sort of created
this cease five situation that may or may not hold.
But what is your take. You've been outspoken on this issue.
What is your take on the relationship between Israel and
(24:10):
specifically between Net and Yahoo and Trump? Is there daylight
there or do you think that they are locked in Unison?
Speaker 1 (24:17):
So yeah, you guys know you're in Tallahassee. I was
the only Jewish Republican in the Florida Legislature. I'm one
of only four up here, and I got the nickname
the Hebrew Hammer because I'm not afraid and punch hard.
Look my take is this, I think the United States
needs to make sure Iran doesn't get a nuclear weapon
because that's a risk to us, and in that we're
(24:38):
lockstep with Israel. I think Israel would probably like to
see regime change in Iran, which frankly I'd like as well,
but I think that's the Iranians problem to do that.
As long as Iran can't bother America, then then that's
where our our problem ends. But I think BB is
also here to talk about how you bring Gaza in
for a landing and Judea and Samaria. Just to continue
(25:01):
to make sure that American Israeli relationship is important because
we have no better ally in the world than Israel.
We get so much technology from them. They invent so
many things that we use in our everyday lives. Their
values are similar to ours and Frankly, they're fighting the
fight that we would have to if they weren't around.
(25:21):
If you look at what happened in Iran, all they
asked us to do was to do the one thing
they couldn't. They didn't have the technology of those bunk
or busting bombs that we did. But everything else they said,
we got this.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
We're good.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
So I mean, that's the kind of partner we should want.
In America, we always get accused of being the world's policemen. Well,
in that part of the world, they're willing to do
the job. They just needed this one thing from us,
and I'm glad the President did it.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
At the beginning of this hour, we interviewed somebody in
New York City recovering the Zoron Mamdani campaign and the
fact that New York Times is now coming out with
some information about his college application and lies in this
interesting coalescing of coalitions who don't seem to have a
lot in common other than the fact that they don't
think Zoron Mondani's gonna be good for New York City.
(26:09):
You tweeted that what some of the shakes in Iran
have done is what Zoron Mondani will do to New
York City. Why do you think he is so dangerous.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Well, he's a Muslim terrorist who's also a socialist. Everyone
focuses on the socialist part, but it's like an all
you can eat a bad Forget his political views. The
guys worked for three years. They've got no job experience
running the most important city in the world. And he
wants to have government grocery source, government housing, government everything.
But look, he hates Israel. He will not stand away
(26:42):
from globalize the Antifada, which has led to people being
killed in the United States. He believes in radical Islam,
which is the cause of so many problems, not only
in the world, but in our country. He would legitimize
what happened on our college campuses everywhere. And the fact
of the matter is radical Islam is a huge problem
in this country and it is one that we have
(27:03):
been unwilling to deal with. I'm willing to deal with it.
I say all the time, we have a Muslim problem
in this country. Doesn't mean all Muslims are terrorists. They aren't.
But it's also not true that one percent of them
are terrorists. It's a meaningful percentage, and the polling shows
that and Mandami would legitimize all of those people who
want to do bad things in this country.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Well, it seems to me that in the Middle East
you have a civilizational struggle that's taking place between Israel,
which is a liberal democracy and does a lot to
try to incorporate people into a society, and you have
these theocratic rulers and these terrorist groups. And in a
certain sense, this is kind of being replayed in American politics.
(27:46):
We're talking with Congressman Randy Fine. It's interesting to me
that you have this really odd coalition of frankl Is
Islamists that have found this way to partner with progressives.
So you have people like Linda Sarsor, you have people
like AOC that's literally going to events that are held
by Islamist groups where the men and women have to
(28:10):
sit separately, the women have their heads covered. And yet
you have people like AOC and people on the left
talking about abortion rights, talking about all these things that
really have nothing in common with the Islamists. The one
thing that seems to unite them is a hatred for
Western civilization. What's your thought on this odd coalition we're
(28:31):
seeing with the race in the mayor race, in New
York and in the left in general in the United States, well.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
They call it the Red Green Alliance, the association of
sort of hard left communists and Islamists. But I want
to challenge one thing you said. You talked about a
war of civilization in Israel. It ain't just there. Look
at Europe, look at what they want to do here,
Look at the city they want to build in Texas.
Look at all the Imams who talk about taking over America.
(29:01):
I mean, this is all over the world. It's not
just over there. It's just it's just worst over there.
And I think part of the issue for liberals, I
often say, conservatives live in the world the way it is.
Liberals live in the world the way they wish it was.
And so the notion that you know, you've got queers
for Palestine, I mean, it's just it's delusional thinking. The
(29:22):
other thing my dad often says to me, he goes, Randy,
if they were smart, they wouldn't be liberal. And so
you know that that's part of what's going on. It's
this delusional intersection. And the funny thing for all these
liberals is if the Muslim terrorists ever took control, they'd
line them up and shoot them. You know, all all
the gay people would be killed. The women who wouldn't,
(29:42):
who wouldn't, you know, cover themselves in a burka. They'd
get beaten up, just like they do in Iran. So
it doesn't even make any sense, this alliance. But they
hate Western civilization, they hate Jews, they hate America, and
they use that to bind themselves together.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
He is Representative Randy. He is from Flora. You can
hear why he was asked to run for Congress by
President Donald Trump. He's been our guest here on the
Shawan Handy Show. Representative Fine, thank you so much. Congratulations
on the passage of the big beautiful Bill, and good
luck in the next eighty nine yards in the rest
of your congressional tenure. Thanks so much for joining us today.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Thanks for having me. Good luck guys.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
He's Peter Schweitzer, I Americ Eggers. This has been an
interview with Randy Fine. It's we've covered a lot man.
You know, normally we do these shows and it's summertime,
you expect to be loosleep. It's been a busy, busy
day on the Seawan Handy Show. We'll have some parting
thoughts and we'll come back right after this.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Peter Schweitzer and Eric Eggers, we've been filling in for
Sean Hannity. We cover the waterfront today, corruption, we dealt
with the rise of socialism in America. The one thing
we neglected to Mension is what we celebrated three days ago,
which is the birth of our country. And we live
in the greatest country on the planet, hands down, even
with all the problems in the corrupt leadership we have.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Well, it's absolutely true, and I think we try to highlight,
you know, the things that make this country better. We
try to bring transparency, whether it's when we're feeling it
for Sean on this program or on the podcast that
we do, The Drill Down, which we'd love for you
to subscribe to you at the drill Down dot com.
You can follow us on Twitter at at the drill
Down one. But absolutely it is the greatest country in
the world and as an honor to be able to
talk to the people who live in it each time
(31:18):
we get to host this shows. Thank you, Linda, great job,
thank you Peter Schweizer, and thanks to all of you
for listening. We'll talk to you next time.
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