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July 8, 2025 31 mins

National political reporter Selena Zito joins Mark Simone to discuss her powerful new book, Butler: The Untold Story of the Near Assassination of Donald Trump and the Fight for America's Heartland. Zito recounts standing just feet from President Trump during the shooting, her firsthand account of his resilience, and the untold failures of the media. Plus, what she discovered about the shooter, Trump’s response the next morning, and how the moment may have changed the 2024 election.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, it's Mark Simone here for Sean Hannity. Normally I'm
on our big flagship station in New York City, seventy
ten WRI. You can hear me on ihearter get the podcast. Well.
Selena Zito a great journalist. We've had her on before.
She's the national political reporter for the Washington Examiner. And
we've had around before to talk about this book that

(00:22):
she's got. Well, it just came out today. It's out today.
It is the most riveting book. You got to get
the book. She was standing with President Trump when he
was shot the assassination attempt. She was standing right there.
It is the most incredible book about what happened that day.
It's called Butler. Get the book Butler, The Untold Story

(00:44):
of the near assassination of Donald Trump and the fight
for America's Heartland. Order the book now. And she's with
us right now. Selena Zito, how you doing.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Hey, WRK, thank you so much for having me on.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
I'm doing great, And I hate to put you through
this again. I know you've had to tell this so
many times, but just explain to the audience you were standing
right there when it happened.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah, I was I was about four feet away. And
you know, when you're a journalist, when you start your
day and you have a plan, you pretty much know
the plan is going to fall apart, right, Something's going
to go wrong. Never in my wildest imagination did I
think what was going to happen that day happened. I
was supposed to interview the president five minutes before. Then

(01:30):
that changed to five minutes after, and then that changed
to you're going to fly to Bedminster and interview him
on the plane, and then just before he went on stage,
he asked to see me. And I didn't know that.
I thought it was changed back to him interviewing before
the rally, but he just wanted to say hello. So
that is how I ended up in that buffer. That

(01:52):
is not where I was supposed to be that day,
but I ended up in the buffer because it couldn't
get me back to the riser in enough time and
then get back to go in the motorcade. I'm with
my daughter, she's a photo journalist. You can see her
photo is the cover of the book, and it's a
powerful image. And you'll understand why a minute, because they

(02:15):
put me in the buffer and they said, okay, work
your way over to the other side, and then we'll
grab you being a secret service to go in the motorcade.
So if people followed me that day on Twitter, they
can see that the images that of taking the video,
you know, all the way leading up. He comes out

(02:37):
and he does two things within minutes of standing out
there that he never ever does. And that is, he
puts a chart down, and I remember saying to my daughter,
my goodness, what is he ross Perot? What's he doing hard?
And then he turns his head. Elvio's ever either gone

(02:58):
to a Trump rally or why he never turns his
head away from the audience a very transactional emotional relationship
between him and them. He may turn his body to
face a different direction, but he never turned his head away.
The chart goes down, he turns his head away, and

(03:18):
I hear four shots to go right over my head.
I'm a gun owner. I knew exactly what it was
the minute that have happened. I will, And at this
point I'm about four or five feet away. I watch
him grab his ear, I see the blood streak across
his face, and I see him take himself down. Now,

(03:41):
when you're in a situation like that. They often say
time flows down and that was certainly true for me
in that moment, because I'm watching him take himself down
and I'm calculating, Okay, he must be at least a
little bit okay because he he wasn't taken off of
his feet right, And then I see a sea of

(04:04):
blue surround him as the next four shots go off.
Now I don't get down. I don't know what happened
in my head. I remember being very worried about him.
I remember being very worried that anybody in the place
had been shot. But I wasn't thinking about myself. I
was thinking, you know, I, Okay, you have a purpose, Selena.

(04:27):
You are a reporter. You better get your act together
and cover this and remember this because this is history.
And that's where my brain went. It was until a
couple of minutes seconds later that the campaign Presa Michelle
Picard actually takes me down because he was worried about

(04:48):
me and covers my body to protect me until the
beget the all clear. So that's how I ended up
being in that place in that moment.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Out in the has the podium where he speaks, and
in front was a bunting a big bunting, but behind
that was armor plating. That's why you get down behind that.
And I just assumed the Secret Service when he was
down there, got on top of him and covered him up.
Is that the case, that's his case.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
They completely surrounded him. There was a complete protective screen
and protective stance around him. From my angle, I can
see his face because I'm just it just happened. I mean,
you know, he and I talked about the hand of
God a lot the next day, and so you know,
I wonder, what is this my purpose? Is this what

(05:37):
I'm supposed to do him? I was supposed to be
able to chronicle this, and the answer ended up being yes.
And I can see his face. I can see him
arguing with the Secret Service to put his shoes. Only
wants his shoes on, and my recorder's going. I always

(05:57):
have my recorder on at a rally, even though there's
always a transcript afterwards. I always think it's important to
get the inflection in the moom emotion and nuance when
when when covering someone, because that's different than just flatly
saying it, and and the crowd starts chanting USA, and

(06:18):
I can see him say along with them. He's not
shouting it, but I see him mouthing USA. And then
he gets up and they want to take him off
the stage and he turns and that's when if there's
that iconic moment and he says, fight by fight, we.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Have a we also do it. Did he actually say
it out loud? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now I don't, I don't. I think
the mic was off at that moment. I don't know
if the larger group of people can hear him say it.
I can hear him say it. But then again, I'm
very very close to him. Yeah, and he calls me
the next morning.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Yeah, this is the most amazing part. What's the first
thing you said when he called?

Speaker 2 (07:01):
You said, he said, good morning, Selena, this is President
Donald Trump, Like I don't know who it is, right,
And he said, I want to make sure you're okay
and your daughter's okay. Well, and I'm really sorry we
didn't get to do that that interview. And then I

(07:23):
did something that's going to make my parents squirm when
they read it. I swore like a truck driver and
I said, are you sleeping and kidding me? Sir? You
were just shot of okay? Are you okay. The President
will go on to call me seven more times that day.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Now, this is just the beginning of this book. You
got to get the book. It's called Butler. It's the
whole story. Selena Zito. His book is out. The book
is out today right now. You can order it. You'll
get it right away. The book's called Butler by Selena Zito.
Order it and get it. Hey, when you look at
the Reagan shooting, they had him in the car and

(08:02):
speeding away within two seconds. Why was President Trump there
for minutes and minutes and minutes before they got him
out of there?

Speaker 2 (08:10):
First of one, to make sure the shooter was down. Yeah, okay,
And and they were all they all had their bodies
on top of him there. There there were shots fire,
they were taking it and so and then they had
to get him to get him his shoes on because
he wanted his shoes.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
On in his defense though he didn't know where he
was going to go or what'd be walking on. And
also those shoes are twenty four hundred pair. It's more,
you know, they're very nice shoes.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah, and I think you know, this is one of
many conversations that I have with him. He talked about
God and talked about purpose several times with me. But
I asked him in that moment that next day, why
did you say fight?

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Fight?

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Fight? And this goes back to why he wanted his
shoes on, you know, Selena, in that moment, I wasn't
Donald Trump. I was a president of the United States,
and it is my duty and obligation to show strengths
and resilience and resolves and be and be a symbol
of our exceptionalism. Because as a president you have to

(09:21):
show strengths because you have people there that would panic
if I didn't. You have people watching it that could
possibly panic. It is my obligation to show that. And
I suspect that had that had a lot to do
with not walking off in his stocking feet over gravel.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah. Wow, Hey, we came to know everything about Lee
Harvey Oswald, every detail of John Hinckley. Why do we
not hear anything? Why don't we learn not we've learned
nothing about the shooter.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah, you know, this is part of what I mean.
The book obviously talks about Butler, but it also talks
about the big impact that I saw in Pennsylvania. And
no one can argue to pennsil Pennsylvania is not the
most important state in the country in terms of understanding
what's happening and understanding how things change and move. But

(10:17):
what is fascinating to me? Now, I did my best.
There are things in there you will learn about him.
But the problem with this young man is he didn't
leave a digital imprint. He did not. He wasn't unlike
most young people. He was not prolific on social media whatsoever.

(10:40):
And he was a loner. He was an isolationist. He
didn't have any close friends. There was no wife that
could talk about him, there were no friends that could
talk about and trust me, I looked under every rock
to find that answer. And you look at his you know,
I go and look at the log at the sports
club where.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
He was well, you know, you went there on days
like Thanksgiving and Christmas and Valentine's Day, on Sundays, days
that you would traditionally spend with family and friends and
loved ones.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
So this was a person that was very much collapsing inwardly.
And you and you hear the nine one one called
the nine one one call from his dad in the book,
and his dad knew something, something very bad had happened,
and you just you know, I take people through the

(11:37):
community of where he was from. It's it's it's it's
a really riveting moment in the book.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Do we think there was any connection between the shooter
and any thing or ran anybody, any connection somebody behind it?

Speaker 2 (11:51):
To day, there has been no evidence of that. That
doesn't mean it doesn't exist, but finding that evidence and
I know that FBI is on that right now. I'm
that evidence has not been uncovered. No evidence had been uncovered.
If it has been uncovered, we don't know that yet.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
You think if Clint's the election for him that way
he handled himself the fight, fight, fight, the fist for
a lot of independents who weren't sure that they were
so impressed and awed by his strength and toughness that
that may have gotten their votes.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Oh yeah, and you will. You will see that journey
in this book all throughout all sixty seven counties of Pennsylvania,
and I kept and also you see the complete failure
of the Harris campaign. You know, I'm writing this book
as uncovering the election, and you see and read and

(12:53):
hear things that you had no idea. What's what's happening?
By the way that my profession covered it. And the
last chapter in the book is about the reckoning with
my profession and and and what is happening with it,
how it failed so miserably, not just in the coverage

(13:16):
of the assassinating near assassination of a president, but how
they've swept it under the rug. How I was literally
laying on the ground and there's alerts coming up on
my phone saying shrapnel hit him from from the from
the teleprompter, that it was glass. And I'm thinking, my god,

(13:42):
I'm here. I'm right here in that rush to be first,
in that rush to be the story the way you
want it to be, rather than would the facts present
themselves infuriate me. Infuriated me in that moment, but also
in the nuance of that entire election cycle. It just

(14:02):
absolutely blew my mind, the two different worlds I straddled
from what I reported to where I would go on
social media or go on a legacy news and see.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Or read Wow, well, it's a riveting book. You've got
to get the book. Go ordered it just came out.
If you ordered right now, you'll get it right away.
The book is called Butler, as in Butler Pennsylvania. The
book's called Butler, The Untold Story of the near Assassination
of Donald Trump, The Fight for America's Heartland Butler by
Selena Zito. Go order the book and Selena Zito, thanks

(14:35):
for being with us. We'll do it again soon.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Thank you so much. With a great interview.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Thank you, all right, take care. Wow what a book. Anyway,
we'll take some calls in a minute. One eight hundred
nine to one. Sean is the number. Mark Simone here
for Sean Hannity. The Monkeys. Oh my good well it's
Mark Simone here for Sean Hannity. Linda, did you pick
that music? You don't even remember the month? The you do? Okay?

Speaker 5 (15:02):
Then I saw her face.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Now I'm a believer, all right, No, it's about the
music was actually pretty good.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
You know.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
It was a big Monkeys fan. Paul McCartney.

Speaker 5 (15:11):
Paul McCartney, you know the Beatles are. I don't want
to make anybody mad. I'm not the biggest Beatles fan,
so you know. But Paul McCartney's an.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Intes the Monkeys do it for you, not the.

Speaker 5 (15:19):
Beatles they do.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
The Monkeys do do it for me, so for you.
I was waiting up to see the monkeys on The
Ed Sullivan Show, not the Beatles. Listen.

Speaker 5 (15:25):
The Ed Sullivan Show is a time. It was a
time in our country when there was real talent and
people actually played instruments and use their voice, as opposed
to now where everything's AI in computers.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yeah. Ed Sullivan Show was fascinating. It was the most
talented people in the world. Except the host. It was
just a big stiff who stood there.

Speaker 5 (15:42):
It was so funny though, Like I kind of liked him.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
I thought it was fun. Well, well, we'll get to mom.
Donnie the crazy communist running for mayor. We'll get to
him after the break. This is what's right with America.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
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Is there or any place you get podcast, but Iheart's
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It's called the Rogue Recap where I say things a
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More, you know, rogue, Like, what what do you mean?

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You know?

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Not a I wouldn't say it's a family friendly show.

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Sometimes as opposed to the delicate version of you we
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Speaker 5 (16:34):
A lot worse. Unfortunately, because the news dictates what I discuss,
and I happen to get upset about it. I'm not
so good at hiding my feelings. I'm a little too direct.

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It's called the Rogue, the Rogue Recap with Linda.

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The Rogue Recap with Linda on iHeart, or the Mark
Simone podcast, or of course the show on Hannity.

Speaker 5 (16:54):
Well you're already incredible. I mean, your show is the
number one morning show in New York. It's amazing. Not
the world just or I mean, I don't know if
it's the world.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
I live here.

Speaker 5 (17:02):
Can I tell you?

Speaker 1 (17:03):
All right? You know how Sean always picks on New
York and what the hell you're still doing there and
all that. I don't know why you keep said. But
but we have a communist running from mayor. He won
the Democratic primary. I don't mean a left wing, slanted
left wing. I don't mean it it woke. I mean
a socialist, communist, lunatic running for mayor. The problem is

(17:30):
in New York, so many registered Democrats that usually if
you have the Democratic nomination, that means you win. I know,
you could say, well, yeah, but Rudy Giuliani won a
couple of times. Bloomberg won. Is a Republican, but that's
thirty years ago. Twenty years ago. There were far more
Republicans registered back then. A number of Republicans way down,

(17:51):
So it's tough to defeat a Democrat such an incredible
advantage in terms of registered voters. But this is different.
This is a lunatic communist and you Democrats. I don't
know if you've thought about this, but you've nominated a
guy who's twelve years old. He just became a citizen,

(18:11):
like four weeks ago. He just became a citizen recently.
He's never had a job. He's never worked. He has
no resume. If you came to a company for a job,
they'd say, I see her, you've never worked anywhere. I her,
you've never had any occupation of any kind. I mean,
for he's only thirty three. He became a citizen a

(18:34):
couple of years ago, just very recently. Now think about this.
His father is a big professor at Columbia. His mother
is a very big international filmmaker, very wealthy family, the
father big Columbia professor. So he applies to Columbia University
and he lies. On the application. He checks off African American,

(18:59):
which of course is Now he's gonna argue, well, I
was born in Uganda, which is in Africa, but he's not.
First of all, he's not even Uganda, and he's Indian.
He's not Ugandan, and you can't check. I mean, for
that matter, Elon Musk could check off African American, it's
from South Africa, but it's obviously a lie. And then
he checked off Asian. You could argue, well he was Indian,

(19:25):
that's Asian. But obviously obviously he was trying to deceive Colombia.
And he said, well, there was no specific box for
what I guarantee on the application. You know they always
have those boxes and then you can check other I
guarantee you. There was another box he didn't check, so
he lies about being an African American. Very offensive the

(19:46):
whole thing. And think about this. His father's a big
professor at Columbia and he still didn't get in. So
there's more to this story. Your father's on the faculty,
and what are you still don't get in Expect more
to come out about this guy. One by one things
will start coming out about him. The only reason he

(20:06):
got the nomination opposition was Andrew Cuomo, the former governor.
But if you've seen him lately, he's a tired, old,
broken down guy, lays like the old fighter who can't
get his hands up, can't defend himself. And in the
debate this mom dammi, or as Al Sharpton calls him,
mam dammy, this mam dammy. In the debate, wipe the

(20:30):
floor with Cuomo, just beat him to a pulp. Cuomo
couldn't defend himself. It was amazing and that's how he
got the nomination. And by the way, Cuomo, who ran
a terrible campaign with the worst people running it, and
it was just a disaster. He didn't appear anywhere, he
didn't go anywhere, he didn't do interviews, he didn't do anything. Also,
he forgot to do any opposition research on the guy.

(20:53):
So the stuff is coming out slowly now, but it
should have come out in the primary. There's all sorts
of stuff here. He went to visit a mosque, not
long ago where the Imam called for the total annihilation
of Israel. I mean stuff like that, I mean all
his old tweets, this one where there's beautiful statue of

(21:15):
Columbus here in Columbus Circle, Christopher Columbus, and he's giving
the finger to the statue and the other thing. And
this is where Cuomo's stunk. He couldn't get any of
this across. This guy is running by proposing all these
you know, socialist communists will have free buses will have
free this. First of all, the mayor has no authority

(21:38):
to make the buses free. The buses are part of
what they call the MTA, that's the state transportation. It's
the governor. She controls all of that. He has no
authority to make the buses free. Then he said, I'll
tax the rich, I'll tax the white neighborhoods. He actually
said that I'll tax the one he has as mayor.
You have no authority to tax anybody. He can't imposed taxes.

(22:01):
And then he talked about government runs supermarkets. By the way,
when he started that, he lost a lot of immigrants,
especially from Russia or Cuba, because they grew up and
seeing what government runs supermarkets to look like it's empty shelves.
And when they you know, cereal in America is three
aisles of every kind of cereal in the world government supermarket,

(22:22):
it's just plain white boxes. It's a cereal on him. Literally,
that's what you'll see in a Cuban supermarket. And first
of all, they've tried this, you know, every really left
wing crazy university, like in California, Vermont, they do what
they call it a cooperative, like it's a school store
where you can buy groceries and things. It's the worst.

(22:44):
It never works. Nobody's ever been able to make it work.
Now he's not going to be mayor because a couple
of things could happen. Linda doesn't agree with this, but
Eric Adams will become the big opponent. He's the current mayor.
Now you have this is how bad Andrew Kuomu is.
He's still hanging in there. He's gonna have to go

(23:05):
and he will go. But he said Eric Adams is unelectable.
Adams points out, wait a minute, I'm the sitting mayor.
I am I was elected. I'm how could you say
he can't get elected mayor? He is mayor. He got
elected mayor so, and then here's what will happen. Donald
Trump is really fired up about this, mom Dommy. He

(23:29):
is gonna wipe this guy out. He is going to
stop him. He hasn't figured out how. But you know
what he does when he starts branding somebody low energy, Jeb,
sleepy Joe. He'll start the branding and then he'll start
I know he's without revealing too much. I know he's
meeting with a lot of people in New York and

(23:49):
talking on the phone figuring out how to stop this guy.
Leave it to Trump. He'll figure out how to stop
this guy. He was asked about, mom, Dommy.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
This is a man who's not very capable in my opinion,
other than he's got a good lot of bullets and
he's convinced them to go with him. Now, as you
know Cuomo, who does have capabilities running, but he got
knocked out and now they're running as if you have
Eric Adams, the current mayor, you have Cuomo, and you

(24:21):
have Curtis Leewell, and Curtis runs every four years. He
seems to be a fixture on the running scale. But
you know it's I'm not getting in the well, but
I can tell you this. I used to say, we

(24:41):
will not ever be a socialist country. Right, Well, I'll
say it again. We're not gonna have if a communist
gets elected to run New York, it can never be
the same. But we have tremendous power at the White
House to run places.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
When we have to. Yeah. Now he said I'm not
getting involved. I can tell you for a fact he's
already involved. He's talking to people, meetings are going to
be taking place. He'll figure out how to stop this guy.
And if you think about it, he wants to turn
a socialist. This guy his family fled Uganda to come

(25:20):
here and make a fortune, and so now this guy
wants to turn us into Uganda, a messed up socialist
sort of a place. So the whole thing is insane.
Trump has even he said it somewhere today that if
this guy wins and goes crazy, he thinks the federal
government can take control of New York. Take federal control

(25:41):
of New York. Now, I don't know if you can
really do that. You'd have to be in court a
million times. But I'm just telling you he will figure
out how to stop this guy. Now here's the way
they can stop him, and Adams has already talked about
this that imbalanced. So many registered Democrats are not as
many Republicans. They'd have to go out and register or
one million people Republicans who haven't been voting, they'll have

(26:04):
to go out and register him. It can be done, Adams.
I don't think you can pull that off, but Trump can.
Uh and the billionaires will all put in the money
for that effort, that campaign. Then just looking at me
like she's agreeing, I.

Speaker 5 (26:18):
Do agree with you. I'm just curious to your point,
why we're not talking about his mother, who made gajillion
dollars working in Hollywood, his father, who is an elitist professor.
And then in addition, he's been asked several times about
whether or not he supports the Global Intifada, how he
feels about Sharia law. He is unable to answer either

(26:40):
one of those questions directly with disdain and saying I.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Do not well. I was trying to listen as bad points.
It's only a three hour show. I can't I forgot it.

Speaker 5 (26:50):
Really, he really is a very There's two problems here.
My mother always told me this, and I agree with her.
We are doomed to repeat history if we are not
students of it. And I would say ninety eight percent
of these lunatics that are following him could not tell
you what a socialist is, could not tell you what
communist is. I have no idea what Marxism means. Do

(27:11):
not know their history about Russia, about Cuba, about you
know other you know, Eastern European nations like Georgia, like
the Czech Republic, what they've gone through. They just don't know,
nor do they care.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
No, they don't care because you can point out to them.
Now two things have caused this One. You're right, it's
all young people. That's how he won the primary. A
couple hundred thousand young people who never voted, never normally vote,
came out and put him over the top. And also,
this is fifteen years, twenty years of the university's being
crazy left wing communist in doctrination camps where they were

(27:44):
taught all this crap.

Speaker 5 (27:45):
And I'll tell you what, they got another thing coming
to him if they think for one second we're going
to return to the anti Semitic status that we had
during World War two because people like me, I'm telling
you right now, Schick says, we're standing up. We're not
taking it. No, we're not taking it.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
I guarantee you Donald Trump will figure out how to
stop this guy. And I think the other thing we
have to maybe think about constitutional amendment raise the voting
age to thirty. Your twenty, pay a little taxi you're twenty.
Mortgage you're insane. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (28:19):
The biggest problem they have is if there are snapchats working,
and if they're vapors full. I mean, it's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Yeah, so they voted for it. Anyway, we'll take some
calls in a minute. Eight hundred nine four one. Sewan
is the number. Mark Simone here, follow me on Instagram.
By the way, it's Mark Simone NYC at Instagram. Uh,
don't forget to go to Hannity dot com. Watch Hannity
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a moment.

Speaker 5 (28:52):
Follow a mainstream media is asleep at the wheel.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Vanity watches on the job, bringing.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
You the news.

Speaker 5 (29:03):
No one else can Sean Hannity.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Hey, it's Mark Simona here for Sean Hannity. We'll take
some calls. Eight hundred nine to four to one. Sean
is the number. Let's go to Tom in California. Tom,
Welcome to the Sean Hannity Show.

Speaker 7 (29:26):
Yes, sir, I got a way we can get them
term limits, and I guarantee the Democrats will vote for him.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah, we got to get rid of these congressmen, these
senators that serve twenty thirty is how do we get
rid of them?

Speaker 7 (29:37):
Well, the ones that are in there right now. This
is why you say, Well, the ones that are in
there right now, just let them grandfathers themselves in and
then they'll make it them be making a rule that
everybody else has to follow that they don't, so they
will have to vote for it. They love it.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
But then you got fifty senators grandfather did how do
you get rid of them?

Speaker 7 (29:57):
Yeah, Well, if we don't do it, then they're just
going to stay there. You know, they'll just keep doing
the same thing over and over again. But if we
do do it, then eventually they'll.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Have to go well okay, yeah, but you're right, that's
about the only way they'll agree to vote for it.
You got to get the Congress to vote for the
term limits. But you're right, and then we got to
wait for each one of them to die. I guess
because some of them is not going to be a
long wait.

Speaker 5 (30:19):
But or they can be primaried out, or they can
lose and then they won't.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Be Oh that's true, that's true. Yeah, Okay, good idea, Tom,
that might actually work. The time for one more call.
Let's go to Tom in Florida, Tom and Tallahassee how
you doing. Hey, Well.

Speaker 6 (30:35):
When it comes to this E. Sstein conspiracy, remember one thing.
The mouth can say anything, but the wallet speaks loud
and true. And Jeffrey Esstein was a major contributor to
one party, and one party only, the Democratic Party, hundreds
of thousands of dollars going all the way back to
the nineteen ninety Donald Trump has no financial reasons. Certainly
Pam Bunny has no financial reasons to cover up for him.

(30:58):
Trump's accused of taking one.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Fly to.

Speaker 6 (31:01):
His what is it casino up in Atlantic but Bill
Clinton rich.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yeah, Trump took one flight on the Epstein plane, but
he had his wife and his daughter with him at
the time, and it was just a ride to Florida,
which was it was absolutely nothing. But you're right, that's
a very good point. Although there's a lot of donors,
you know, the Epstein list, that's not a list but
the guys were all Upper east Side Palm Beach, many
of them donors. I remember there was a party going

(31:28):
on when Epstein was arrested on the runway, and all
of a sudden the news spread through the room. There
were about twelve guys who went flying out of that room,
ran home, I think, to wipe out their computer or
race stuff or whatever. Anyway, we'll get to mom, Dommy
and more in the next hour. Mark Simone here for
Sean Hannity.

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