July 23, 2025 • 32 mins
John Solomon joins Hannity in hour two to analyze the explosive declassified report released by Tulsi Gabbard and House Republicans. Together, they walk through evidence showing how top intelligence officials—despite internal warnings—inserted the debunked Steele dossier into the 2017 intelligence assessment. Solomon outlines the emerging Grand Conspiracy investigation by FBI Director Kash Patel and what it means for figures like Brennan, Clapper, Comey, and Obama. Alan Wilson, South Carolina's Attorney General, also weighs in, calling for full transparency and a special prosecutor to restore public trust.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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have back on the program. He is the founder, he's
the editor in chief, he's the chief investigative reporter just
thenews dot com. John Solomon is with us. We saw
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Tulsea Gabbard knowing about all of this. We've had now
two document dumps. A lot of this information that we're
hearing about are things that John Solomon broke and we
reported on on both radio and TV on a regular basis.
And here's what I want you to explain, John, because
we're really talking about a grand conspiracy and whether or
not deep state operatives and the term is applicable put
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cinderblocks on the scales of not one, not two, but
three presidential elections. I have my way of saying it,
but I'll let you say it in your words.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
What you have is a repeat pattern of the intelligence
and law enforcement community of the federal government collaborating with
Democrat operatives to repeatedly mislead the American people, to the
disadvantage of Republicans, usually Donald Trump, and to the benefit
of Democrats like Hillary Clinton and Hunter Biden who had
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real legal issues. As we would later come to understand,
that pattern isn't just a political dirty trick. It could
rise to the level of criminality if certain elements are met,
the infringement of civil liberties of people like Mike Flynn
and President Trump and Carter Page and others. If it
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is a conspiracy, it can be viewed as criminal activity.
The effort to hide national security threats like a China
intrusion on the twenty twenty election, or the real nature
of the Hunter Biden laptop could rise to the level
of a criminal conspiracy. And when you write an official
intelligence product for the President of the United States, as
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John Brennan and his team did in December twenty sixteen,
which is what today's new revelation is about, and you
intentionally violate the rules of the intelligence community to create
a false conclusion, you could potentially face criminal activity because
you're misleading the highest office of the land. And I
think today's revelation is so important to now know it's irrefutable.
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There is concrete evidence that the dirty dossier. The Steele dossier,
which had been discredited by December of twenty sixteen, was
used to make the conclusion that.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
By the way, was it it really discredited?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Didn't bruce Or in August of twenty sixteen warn them
not to use it?
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Than he would know.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Let's think of all the things that happened before John
Brennan's team uses the dossier in twenty sixteen, Bruce Or
discredits it in August. In September, the CIA tells the FBI,
don't rely on Christopher Steele until you revalidate them because
his network of sources has been infiltrated by Russian intelligence.
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In November, first the FBI fires him because they catch
him leaking in violations of his thing. By December, a
spreadsheet has been created of every sentence in the Steele dossier,
and it either can be neither corroborated or it has
been debunked. The FBI completed that spreadsheet. It's at that
point that John Brennan forces that bad intelligence product into
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the Intelligence Committee assessment. And I want to take you
to a key moment in December by Canstrom, just real quickly,
so you can see how agregious. This is the Intelligence
Committee was going to brief President Obama in December eighth that,
in fact, Russia did intrude in the election, just like
you and I reported, But they did not try to
tip the election in favor of one candidate or the other.
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They did what they've done for elections for many years,
which is try to sow chaos and dot doubt in
division in America. That's a Soviet playbook that Newton knows well.
There was no evidence in any prior election that Pewtin
tried to pick a winner or loser. And they were
going to tell the president President Obama on December eighth,
once again, that's what we believe happened. President Obama doesn't
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take that briefing. It gets canceled. The next day, he
orders a new review. He shrinks out most of the
Intelligence Committee and brings it down to John Brennan and
James Comy and one good guy in this whole episode
of the NSA director at the time, and they come
up with an entirely different conclusion. And to get to
that conclusion, to get to that conclusion that Vladimir Putin
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was helping Trump, which no one in the Intelligence Committee
believe they inject the dirty dossie. That is what flips
this conclusion of the Intelligence Committe to a different fighting
and then they hang that around Donald Trump, so that
the beginning of his twenty seventeen presidency is beset by
a fake Russia collusion allegation, one that leads to a
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special prosecutor, years of strife, years of misleading the American people.
That is what Tulca Gabbert proves today by releasing this
House Intelligence report. And by the way, this report was
written by Devin Nunez and Cashptel. They were always right
when they went to the podium and said what they
said in eighteen. They were telling the American people the truth.
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Barack Obama, John Brennan, James Clapper, Adam Schiff. They misled us.
And that's what this report emphatically shows.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Now we now also know that they were warned not
to use the Russian disinformation dossier in August of twenty sixteen,
and it became the basis for four fives applications, three
of which James Comy himself signed. And we know that
they had no degree of confidence in any of that.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Is that true or false?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
I think there was a second warning in Septembers. You
get two of them. You've got or and then the CIA,
and then the fisas are signed. I think two were
signed by Comy, one by Cave, and then won by
rosen Stein, so they're four. I think going Komy did two.
But other than that, one hundred percent accurate.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Okay, we do know post election that our intel community,
and these are career people, rank and file people determined
that as it relates to Trump Russia collusion, putting aside
Hillary's bought and paid for dirty Russian dossier, that they concluded, no,
there was no assistance, There was no collusion with Trump
and Plutin and Russia in any way, shape, bat or form,
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And that intelligence was repeated again and again. Is that
true or false?
Speaker 2 (06:33):
It is true. And let me add one thing that's
so important part of the conclusion of it, the part
of the reason that the career people did not believe
Putin was trying to help Trump, was that in October,
when most Americans make up their mind, in October twenty sixteen,
when Hillary Clinton's race was tightening, she was actually in
danger of losing, Russia pulled all of its active measures.
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They stopped any influence campaigns they have. If you were
trying to help Donald Trump, the moment you would most
help them is in October when voters are making up
their mind. Russia pulled back and held back its information.
That fact, which they had to intercept in human intelligence,
led very strongly to the right conclusion, which is Puten
wasn't trying to pick a winner or loser. He was
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just trying to sew dissension. But James Comy and John
Brennan to try to hijack that finding and get to
a different conclusion, and they have to use the dosia
to get there.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
So another so fact.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
After the intel community, the rank and file career people
concluded that there was no collusion with Trump and Russia,
that information was passed on to the higher ups, and
as time went on, as we got to December of
twenty sixteen, then those people in the highest levels of
power within these agencies, and I'm talking about Clapper and Brennan, etc.
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That they took this information, they corrupted it, or to
use your words, polluted it to say the exact opposite
of what they had, what their rank and file had concluded,
is that true? Is do these declassified documents prove that they.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Do, as do the emails from the whistleblowers that we
reported on last week. That is one hundred percent true.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Next question, and did did Obama and Biden and Komy
and Clapper and Brennan and Susan Rice? Did they all
have a meeting about this very very issue, this very issue?
And did that not lead to Susan Rice's cya? Only
just a couple of minutes before Donald Trump was sworn
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into office in twenty seventeen, the CYA memo about a
meeting that had taken place weeks earlier. Did they when
she said, you know, by the book, Obama said, by
the book?
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Comy said, by the book? Did that all happen?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
It did? I don't know whether that meeting prompts a
memo or whether Susan Rice just does it to create
the cya, But you're one hundred percent right. And there's
been a lot of in the last twenty four hours
about Barack Obama. He did the Sergeant Schultz from the
old television show many years ago, Hogan heroes, I know nothing, I.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Know nothing right.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
You did it much better than I did. Let me
tell you what, Barack Obama's not telling you when he
makes that statement. In July twenty sixteen, he attended the
meeting with John Brennan that emphatically told them Hillary Clinton
was going to fake create this fake scandal. He knows
that before the FBI starts across fire hurricane. As president
of the United States, knowing it's a false allegation, he
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doesn't stop the Russia collusion investigation in December, when you
notice that the Intelligence Committee's going to come in and
say Russia didn't try to help Donald Trump or Hillary
couldn't win. They just interfered in their normal way, he
stops that briefing and orders a new review, and that
leads to John Brennan's hijacking of the Intelligence Community assessment
in January. January fifth is the date, January fifth, twenty seventeen.
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Barack Obama presides over the meeting where FBI the DOJ
officials are conspiring to figure out how do we keep
an investigation of Mike Flinn going. They have that meeting
because the day before, the FBI career people had decided
that Mike Flynn did not commit a single crime, he
should be cleared, and the investigation should be ended. And
instead they come out of that meeting trying to lure
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Mike Flynn into an interview where they can then charge
him with lying. Barack Obama attended all three of those meetings.
He cannot claim he wasn't an actor in this. He
cannot complain he wasn't a conspirator in this political conspiracy.
Whether it rises to criminality, I don't know yet, but
he was in all three of those meetings, and his
statement last night was dishonest.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I quick break more with the founder, editor in chief
and chief investigative reporter, John Solomon Justins dot Com on
the other side than your calls eight hundred and ninety
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slash Hannity. We continue with John Solomon. He is the founder,
editor in chief and chief investigative reporter justinnews dot com.
He broke a lot of these stories involving the Russia
Russia Russia hoax. Let's go to the part of the
Grand Conspiracy on another level. Let's go to twenty twenty
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and true or False. In March of twenty twenty, did
the FBI corroborate the authenticity of Hunter Biden's laptop? Did
the FBI then come up with a plan to meet
weekly with every big tech company and prebunk whether or
not that laptop would be true, knowing that Rudy Juliani's attorney,
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Bob Costello had a copy and would likely drop that
which happened in October of twenty twenty, before the election,
and when they corroborated it in March of twenty twenty.
Then they met weekly with big tech companies. Then the
New York Post drops the story, and then the New
York Post then people like Mark Zuckerberg and Jack Dorsey request,
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you know, is this what you were warning us about?
They knew the truth was it was real, but they
didn't tell big tech companies the truth, did they They
did not.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Now, now, those weekly meetings started before they knew that
Giuliani had the laptop, but those weekly medians become the
vehicle by which they suppress the laptop story. And then
that suppression continues on in the form of Mike Morrell,
who then organizes that letter. The former deputy CI director, former.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Of Micael Morrell I thought it was wink and Tony Blinken.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Well, Blincoln asked him to get it started. But Morell
is the organizer. Just think about this. John Brennan's successor
his deputy is the guy that helps organize a letter
at Tony Blinken's recommendation. According to Morrell's own emails, to
then say the laptop is rushing disinformation when it was
just the opposite had already been authenticated.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
By that right, last question because of the constraints of time.
Only reason I'm not trying to rush you out here
because all of this is important and we'll have more
of this on TV tonight with you. And then can
you argue for the third you know, presidential election in
a row, that all of the weaponization and lawfair used
against Donald Trump was were more cinder blocks for a
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third presidential election put on the scales of an election
to destroy Trump legally by weaponizing the justice system and
having a two tier justice system just to prevent him
from ever winning.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Did that happen to it did?
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Indeed? And it is is.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
That a grand Is that a grand conspiracy?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Well? That was other three cinder blocks that are at
the heart of the cash Betel FBI kriminal investigation that
was opened in April that we call the Grand Conspiracy Investigation,
and all three of them literally parts of where Cash
Bettel has been leading the FBI and the Justice Department.
Here's the next thing that's going to happen, John, if
the Justice Department follows his protocol, and I believe it
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will under Pambondi. When you have a conspiracy case like
this against the mob or the drug cartels, the first
thing you do is you create a federal strike force
that then goes into action. You get your best and
brightest agents and prosecutes, you put them on one team,
and you go through the overt acts. I believe fam
Bondi's at that moment now where she has to make
a decision. Will she do that? I think she will.
(15:32):
You create a federal strike task force. What does that mean?
It means John Brennan, Barack Obama, James Comy, and all
the gang that we've been talking about, They're going to
be facing a strike force just like a mob boss did,
just like a drug cartel kingpin did. That's going to
be the next decision for Justice in the next few weeks.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Amazing, and I have every belief that the American people
will it'll take their breath away.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
The depths with which this.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Scheme to stop Trump every step of the way was
put in place, and how our entire constitutional republic, frankly,
in my view my estimation based on what I know
and what we've reported and what you reported, was put
in jeopardy the entire time. And thankfully it's now coming
to light. Let's see what happens with it. John Solomon,
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editor in chief, founder, chief investigative reporter justinnews dot com.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Thank you, sir. We'll see it at night on TV.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Great.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
I know, it's just shocking, so shocking in so many ways. Oh,
that Russia collusion happened. I spent three years of my
life covering all of this. Tulsea Gabbard, newly declassified information,
gave a mini presser at the White House earlier today,
and here's some of what she said, which we played earlier.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
There is irrefutable evidence that detail how President Obama and
his national security team directed creation of an intelligence community
assessment that they knew was false. They knew it would
promote this contrived narrative that Russia interfered in the twenty
sixteen election to help President Trump win, selling it to
the American people as though it were true.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
It wasn't.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
The report that we released today's shows in great detail
how they carried this out. They manufactured findings from shoddy sources,
They suppressed evidence and credible intelligence that disproved their false claims.
They disobeyed traditional trade craft intelligence community standards, and withheld
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the truth from the American people. In doing so, they
conspired to subvert the will of the American people who
elected Donald Trump in that election in November of twenty sixteen.
They worked with their partners in the media to promote
this lie, ultimately to undermine the legitimacy of President Trump
and launching what would be a year's long coup against
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him and his administration. Nation implicates former President Obama and
criminal behavior. We have referred and will continue to refer
all of these documents to the Department of Justice and
the FBI to investigate the criminal implications of this For
even the evidence correct, The evidence that we have found
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and that we have released directly point to President Obama
leading the manufacturing of this intelligence assessment. There are multiple
pieces of evidence and intelligence that confirm that fact.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Wow anyway, here to shed some more light on this
and give us more analysis of this. Alan Wilson, South
Carolina Attorney General, currently running for governor, supports the efforts
of the Department of National Intelligence and Tulsea Gabbard as
they now push for a may end up being a
special prosecutor or a council involved in this. You know,
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I've gone over this now with Bill O'Reilly and with
John Solomon and my own analysis and my own of
now what has been at two document disclosures, two declassifications
that have taken place with Tulca Gabbett and what is
beyond frustrating to me. It seems like deep state operatives,
to use the appropriate term of my view, have now
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put cinder blocks on the scales of three presidential elections.
Will work our way backwards in twenty twenty four, it
was all the weaponization from twenty to twenty twenty four
to make it impossible for Donald Trump to be a
viable candidate. If you look at the twenty twenty race,
we know that the FBI had verified the authenticity of
Hunter Biden's laptop. They knew that Bob Costello, then Rudy
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Giuliani's attorney at a copy of that laptop. They knew
that it would leak, and they spent the summer of
twenty twenty meeting with big tech companies on a weekly basis,
warning them about that they may be victims of a
Russian disinformation campaign that may involve Hunter and Joe Biden
and even Buris Holdings. And then when the New York
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Post story did break, in fact, a lot of these companies,
including Mark Zuckerberg and Jack Dorsey then running Twitter, said
is this what you've been warning about?
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Or is this true? They would not give them.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
The answer that they knew to be true is that
the laptop was in fact authentic and that they had
discovered that back in March, which means that they actively
participated in influencing the election, because that would have had
a big impact, in my view, on the election results.
And you worked your way back to twenty twenty, we're
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discovering through these classified documents that FBI director at the time,
James Comy, ignored key critical evidence in his determination about
Hillary Clinton's top secret classified information. I would argue to
give her a pass. We know that he himself and
others were warned not to trust the dirty Russian disinformation
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dossier that Hillary Clinton paid for. There was Russian election interference,
but that only came from that side, and that in fact,
this unverifiable, completely debunked now information was used for four
piza applications to backdoor spy on Donald Trump, both as
a candidate, as a transition team, and as a president.
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To me, it sounds like cinder blocks on scales of elections.
Do you see primes or a need for a huge investigation?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
What do you see in this showing absolutely?
Speaker 6 (21:34):
And you said at the very top of the block
time here you said, this is how shocking this is.
This is only four days since all this stuff has
been revealed. And the question that I keep asking myself
is if you look at how the intelligence assessment that
was issued leading up to December seventh was that Russia
had nothing to do with tampering of the between sixty election,
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and then you look at January sixth, the real controversial
January sixth and twenty seventeen, that there was a newly
issued intelligence assessment the same Russia did temper at the
twenty sixteen the election, and you realize that the President
of the United States directed that that new assessment be issued.
Then the question I have for people is do you
think Barack Obama would have reconvened the National Security Council
and ordered a new assessment if Hillary Clinton had won?
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And the answer is no, he wouldn't have The people
around Barack Obama and the Obama administration of some the
same people who weaponized the criminal justice system against President
Trump while using that same criminal justice system to protect
the Biden family. These are the same people that weaponize
the legacy media as well as our social media overlords
against President Trump. These are also the same people who
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weaponized the intelligence community industrial complex against the president. So
now they're calling all of us crazy and have called
us crazy. They've called you crazy, John Solomon, crazy for
daring to believe our eyes, our lying eyes, as opposed
to them. So I would love to see a full
on investigation and a full vetting of the truth for
the American people. We owe the American people nothing less.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
What do you make of Tulsea Gabbard's comments from earlier today.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
Well, I think she's incredibly courageous. I mean she used
very bold language, you know, treason, this conspiracy. She called
out the president, she called out everyone in his National
Security Council. I mean, she stood up there in front
of the American people and laid it all out and
stood up against the legacy media. So I mean, I'm very,
very proud of her. I'm very impressed with the fortitude
and the courage that she has had, and now they're
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going to go after her like nothing you've ever seen.
But I stand behind her, and I'm going to call
another Attorney's General in this country to stand for a
full accounting and a full investigation. In Pam Bondy, who
is a good friend of mine, I have full faith
and confidence that she will put the best people on
this and we will get an accounting of what happened
four or five years ago.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
If you take a look at some of the classified
materials that have come out to this point, we find
that rank and file career intelligence officials came to a
very different assessment than what ultimately evolved after and his
cronies at the highest levels of these three letter agencies
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got their hands on it. In other words, they said, no,
there was no Trump Russia collusion, and then all of
a sudden that emerged into there was, which emerged into
this narrative that literally took up an enormous inordinate amount
of time during Donald Trump's presidency. Do you believe that
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the evidence is now showing that they purposely, to use
John Solomon's words, polluted and corrupted that information for political purposes.
And if they did, what is the crime?
Speaker 6 (24:36):
Well, I absolutely agree, John Solomon. I do believe that
they polluted, you know, this whole process for their own
personal political agenda. And again, the same people around President Obama,
you know, during that period of time of the same
people that were driving everything against President Trump during his
first term, as well as all the criminal trials in
the civil cases going against him when he was out
of office, and they're the ones trying to discredit the president. Now, obviously,
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you know, I want to withhold my final judgment or
what crimes have been committed, but until we get something
more from the Department of Justice. But I stand one
thousand percent behind Tulci Gabbard and you and everyone else
calling on a full vetting and a full accounting. We
need an investigation, We need a full report on this.
And now I don't want the report coming from members
of Congress, even in our own party. I want the
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report coming from the law enforcement community and the Justice
Department as it stands right now.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
If you are the attorney Jeremal and you are the
Attorney General of South Carolina, how would you approach this
from an investigative standpoint based on what we now know
that has been declassified?
Speaker 6 (25:35):
I mean full transparency. I mean Tulcie Gabbert's released all
the documents that she has found. I think we have
to allow the Justice Department an opportunity to appoint a
special counsel if that's the direction they decide to go.
We have to give them an opportunity to put things together.
And I think Attorney General Bonding needs to have a
press conference. My recommendation would be to her that trust
and credibility must be restored into the criminal justice system
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at the federal level as well as the intelligence community.
And the only way to do that is to allow
the American people to have full sunlight, full transparency, full accounting,
make everything available on public portals on the website, give
us access to everything, and then let us look for ourselves, don't.
I don't want talking heads on the left wing media
news outlet's telling me what I should believe. I want
to see it for myself, and that's what the attorneys
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all to do in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Quick break right back, we'll continue more with Alan Wilson,
South Carolina Attorney General on the other side, and more
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Up next, our final roundup and information overload.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Our all right, we continue now with South Carolina Attorney
General Alan Wilson is with us. What about Cash Ptel,
the FBI director, and his investigation that he opened weeks
ago into this grand conspiracy that this has now gone
on through three presidential elections. Is it possible in this
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live in, that in fact, that there are people at
the highest levels of government that did try to influence
the outcome of elections with disinformation.
Speaker 6 (28:47):
I mean, listen, it shatters people's trust and whatever trust
and states some of us had in the federal government,
which I really haven't had a lot of in the
last ten years, but it has shatters people's faith and
confidence and law enforcement. You know, when cash Tail came in,
I heard that he cleaned out the top floor of
the FBI building and got rid of all of the
institutional people and started rebuilding his senior leadership team. I
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thought that was a great beginning to his administration at
the FBI. Get rid of the old and put in
fresh new people that don't have any political leanings or
at least aren't beholden to political interest, and empower them
to go find the truth. And I'm glad to see
what he's done thus far, and I trusted this investigation
will reveal the truth eventually.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Well I think it will, but I mean, just based
on what we're seeing now, there certainly seems to be
a corruption of information for the purposes of undermining a
newly and duly elected president of the United States, and
it did consume three years of Trump's presidency, so it
seems pretty overwhelming. As we begin our investigative part of
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it just your knowledge of the law on the periphery,
what what might they be looking at legal legally in
terms of laws that were broken. I would imagine if
you're trying to influence the outcome of an election, that
there's got to be statutes that are applicable.
Speaker 6 (30:08):
Well. Absolutely, And in this particular case, it's come down
to intent and authority. What authority did the president have?
Was he acting within the confines of his constitutional authority?
And then what was his intent? And again, obviously there's
a Supreme Court case on the President Trump regarding presidential
authority and what is and what is not considered criminal
or sanctionable conduct, and they're going to have to apply that.
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But right now is this is the post election of
twenty sixteen, going into December of twenty sixteen. In January
twenty seventeen, was President Obama trying to undermine intentionally undermine
President Trump as he entered office? What did he know?
When did he know it? Obviously? I think the evidence
spares out right now that he had he had a motivation,
Otherwise he wouldn't have reissued that intelligence assessment. Has Hillary
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Clinton won, there would have been no reissuing he would
have gone with what they had because it wouldn't have
mattered to him. But Trump was coming into office and
they had stopping they had the undermining. That is what
I believe, but I'm going to reserve my final judgment
until we get a full vetting in an investigation.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Well do you think, for example, in twenty twenty, when
they knew and they had validated the authenticity of Hunter's laptop,
and they were meeting weekly with big tech companies, and
even though they knew the truth, when the story broke publicly,
they would not validate that. But the very companies that
they were were warning that they might be victims of
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a disinformation campaign. Of does that sound like election interference
to you?
Speaker 6 (31:33):
It very well could be, Sean, I mean absolutely it
could be election interference. And again I want to see
more information, but absolutely these people were colluding with the
big tech bros, the art tech overlords. They were colluding
with folks within the criminal justices and the FBI. They've
been colluding with folks across the political spectrum to undermine
President Trump. And that's why you know, I want to
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I want to see cash Betail and Pambondy. I want
to see them, shine a full light on this thing.
I appreciate what told see Gabbart is done. Put it
all out there, let's investigate it, and let's hold these
people accountable under criminal law if we can. At a minimum,
let's least shame the hell out of them.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yeah, I agree. Anyway, we appreciate your time, Attorney General
South Carolina, Alan Wilson, Thank you, sir for being with us.
We appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (32:16):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
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thenews dot com. John Solomon is with us. We saw
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Tulsea Gabbard knowing about all of this. We've had now
two document dumps. A lot of this information that we're
hearing about are things that John Solomon broke and we
reported on on both radio and TV on a regular basis.
And here's what I want you to explain, John, because
we're really talking about a grand conspiracy and whether or
not deep state operatives and the term is applicable put
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cinderblocks on the scales of not one, not two, but
three presidential elections. I have my way of saying it,
but I'll let you say it in your words.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
What you have is a repeat pattern of the intelligence
and law enforcement community of the federal government collaborating with
Democrat operatives to repeatedly mislead the American people, to the
disadvantage of Republicans, usually Donald Trump, and to the benefit
of Democrats like Hillary Clinton and Hunter Biden who had
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real legal issues. As we would later come to understand,
that pattern isn't just a political dirty trick. It could
rise to the level of criminality if certain elements are met,
the infringement of civil liberties of people like Mike Flynn
and President Trump and Carter Page and others. If it
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is a conspiracy, it can be viewed as criminal activity.
The effort to hide national security threats like a China
intrusion on the twenty twenty election, or the real nature
of the Hunter Biden laptop could rise to the level
of a criminal conspiracy. And when you write an official
intelligence product for the President of the United States, as
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John Brennan and his team did in December twenty sixteen,
which is what today's new revelation is about, and you
intentionally violate the rules of the intelligence community to create
a false conclusion, you could potentially face criminal activity because
you're misleading the highest office of the land. And I
think today's revelation is so important to now know it's irrefutable.
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There is concrete evidence that the dirty dossier. The Steele dossier,
which had been discredited by December of twenty sixteen, was
used to make the conclusion that.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
By the way, was it it really discredited?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Didn't bruce Or in August of twenty sixteen warn them
not to use it?
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Than he would know.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Let's think of all the things that happened before John
Brennan's team uses the dossier in twenty sixteen, Bruce Or
discredits it in August. In September, the CIA tells the FBI,
don't rely on Christopher Steele until you revalidate them because
his network of sources has been infiltrated by Russian intelligence.
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In November, first the FBI fires him because they catch
him leaking in violations of his thing. By December, a
spreadsheet has been created of every sentence in the Steele dossier,
and it either can be neither corroborated or it has
been debunked. The FBI completed that spreadsheet. It's at that
point that John Brennan forces that bad intelligence product into
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the Intelligence Committee assessment. And I want to take you
to a key moment in December by Canstrom, just real quickly,
so you can see how agregious. This is the Intelligence
Committee was going to brief President Obama in December eighth that,
in fact, Russia did intrude in the election, just like
you and I reported, But they did not try to
tip the election in favor of one candidate or the other.
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They did what they've done for elections for many years,
which is try to sow chaos and dot doubt in
division in America. That's a Soviet playbook that Newton knows well.
There was no evidence in any prior election that Pewtin
tried to pick a winner or loser. And they were
going to tell the president President Obama on December eighth,
once again, that's what we believe happened. President Obama doesn't
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take that briefing. It gets canceled. The next day, he
orders a new review. He shrinks out most of the
Intelligence Committee and brings it down to John Brennan and
James Comy and one good guy in this whole episode
of the NSA director at the time, and they come
up with an entirely different conclusion. And to get to
that conclusion, to get to that conclusion that Vladimir Putin
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was helping Trump, which no one in the Intelligence Committee
believe they inject the dirty dossie. That is what flips
this conclusion of the Intelligence Committe to a different fighting
and then they hang that around Donald Trump, so that
the beginning of his twenty seventeen presidency is beset by
a fake Russia collusion allegation, one that leads to a
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special prosecutor, years of strife, years of misleading the American people.
That is what Tulca Gabbert proves today by releasing this
House Intelligence report. And by the way, this report was
written by Devin Nunez and Cashptel. They were always right
when they went to the podium and said what they
said in eighteen. They were telling the American people the truth.
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Barack Obama, John Brennan, James Clapper, Adam Schiff. They misled us.
And that's what this report emphatically shows.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Now we now also know that they were warned not
to use the Russian disinformation dossier in August of twenty sixteen,
and it became the basis for four fives applications, three
of which James Comy himself signed. And we know that
they had no degree of confidence in any of that.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Is that true or false?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
I think there was a second warning in Septembers. You
get two of them. You've got or and then the CIA,
and then the fisas are signed. I think two were
signed by Comy, one by Cave, and then won by
rosen Stein, so they're four. I think going Komy did two.
But other than that, one hundred percent accurate.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Okay, we do know post election that our intel community,
and these are career people, rank and file people determined
that as it relates to Trump Russia collusion, putting aside
Hillary's bought and paid for dirty Russian dossier, that they concluded, no,
there was no assistance, There was no collusion with Trump
and Plutin and Russia in any way, shape, bat or form,
(06:28):
And that intelligence was repeated again and again. Is that
true or false?
Speaker 2 (06:33):
It is true. And let me add one thing that's
so important part of the conclusion of it, the part
of the reason that the career people did not believe
Putin was trying to help Trump, was that in October,
when most Americans make up their mind, in October twenty sixteen,
when Hillary Clinton's race was tightening, she was actually in
danger of losing, Russia pulled all of its active measures.
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They stopped any influence campaigns they have. If you were
trying to help Donald Trump, the moment you would most
help them is in October when voters are making up
their mind. Russia pulled back and held back its information.
That fact, which they had to intercept in human intelligence,
led very strongly to the right conclusion, which is Puten
wasn't trying to pick a winner or loser. He was
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just trying to sew dissension. But James Comy and John
Brennan to try to hijack that finding and get to
a different conclusion, and they have to use the dosia
to get there.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
So another so fact.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
After the intel community, the rank and file career people
concluded that there was no collusion with Trump and Russia,
that information was passed on to the higher ups, and
as time went on, as we got to December of
twenty sixteen, then those people in the highest levels of
power within these agencies, and I'm talking about Clapper and Brennan, etc.
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That they took this information, they corrupted it, or to
use your words, polluted it to say the exact opposite
of what they had, what their rank and file had concluded,
is that true? Is do these declassified documents prove that they.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Do, as do the emails from the whistleblowers that we
reported on last week. That is one hundred percent true.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Next question, and did did Obama and Biden and Komy
and Clapper and Brennan and Susan Rice? Did they all
have a meeting about this very very issue, this very issue?
And did that not lead to Susan Rice's cya? Only
just a couple of minutes before Donald Trump was sworn
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into office in twenty seventeen, the CYA memo about a
meeting that had taken place weeks earlier. Did they when
she said, you know, by the book, Obama said, by
the book?
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Comy said, by the book? Did that all happen?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
It did? I don't know whether that meeting prompts a
memo or whether Susan Rice just does it to create
the cya, But you're one hundred percent right. And there's
been a lot of in the last twenty four hours
about Barack Obama. He did the Sergeant Schultz from the
old television show many years ago, Hogan heroes, I know nothing, I.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Know nothing right.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
You did it much better than I did. Let me
tell you what, Barack Obama's not telling you when he
makes that statement. In July twenty sixteen, he attended the
meeting with John Brennan that emphatically told them Hillary Clinton
was going to fake create this fake scandal. He knows
that before the FBI starts across fire hurricane. As president
of the United States, knowing it's a false allegation, he
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doesn't stop the Russia collusion investigation in December, when you
notice that the Intelligence Committee's going to come in and
say Russia didn't try to help Donald Trump or Hillary
couldn't win. They just interfered in their normal way, he
stops that briefing and orders a new review, and that
leads to John Brennan's hijacking of the Intelligence Community assessment
in January. January fifth is the date, January fifth, twenty seventeen.
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Barack Obama presides over the meeting where FBI the DOJ
officials are conspiring to figure out how do we keep
an investigation of Mike Flinn going. They have that meeting
because the day before, the FBI career people had decided
that Mike Flynn did not commit a single crime, he
should be cleared, and the investigation should be ended. And
instead they come out of that meeting trying to lure
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Mike Flynn into an interview where they can then charge
him with lying. Barack Obama attended all three of those meetings.
He cannot claim he wasn't an actor in this. He
cannot complain he wasn't a conspirator in this political conspiracy.
Whether it rises to criminality, I don't know yet, but
he was in all three of those meetings, and his
statement last night was dishonest.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I quick break more with the founder, editor in chief
and chief investigative reporter, John Solomon Justins dot Com on
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slash Hannity. We continue with John Solomon. He is the founder,
editor in chief and chief investigative reporter justinnews dot com.
He broke a lot of these stories involving the Russia
Russia Russia hoax. Let's go to the part of the
Grand Conspiracy on another level. Let's go to twenty twenty
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and true or False. In March of twenty twenty, did
the FBI corroborate the authenticity of Hunter Biden's laptop? Did
the FBI then come up with a plan to meet
weekly with every big tech company and prebunk whether or
not that laptop would be true, knowing that Rudy Juliani's attorney,
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Bob Costello had a copy and would likely drop that
which happened in October of twenty twenty, before the election,
and when they corroborated it in March of twenty twenty.
Then they met weekly with big tech companies. Then the
New York Post drops the story, and then the New
York Post then people like Mark Zuckerberg and Jack Dorsey request,
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you know, is this what you were warning us about?
They knew the truth was it was real, but they
didn't tell big tech companies the truth, did they They
did not.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Now, now, those weekly meetings started before they knew that
Giuliani had the laptop, but those weekly medians become the
vehicle by which they suppress the laptop story. And then
that suppression continues on in the form of Mike Morrell,
who then organizes that letter. The former deputy CI director, former.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Of Micael Morrell I thought it was wink and Tony Blinken.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Well, Blincoln asked him to get it started. But Morell
is the organizer. Just think about this. John Brennan's successor
his deputy is the guy that helps organize a letter
at Tony Blinken's recommendation. According to Morrell's own emails, to
then say the laptop is rushing disinformation when it was
just the opposite had already been authenticated.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
By that right, last question because of the constraints of time.
Only reason I'm not trying to rush you out here
because all of this is important and we'll have more
of this on TV tonight with you. And then can
you argue for the third you know, presidential election in
a row, that all of the weaponization and lawfair used
against Donald Trump was were more cinder blocks for a
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third presidential election put on the scales of an election
to destroy Trump legally by weaponizing the justice system and
having a two tier justice system just to prevent him
from ever winning.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Did that happen to it did?
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Indeed? And it is is.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
That a grand Is that a grand conspiracy?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Well? That was other three cinder blocks that are at
the heart of the cash Betel FBI kriminal investigation that
was opened in April that we call the Grand Conspiracy Investigation,
and all three of them literally parts of where Cash
Bettel has been leading the FBI and the Justice Department.
Here's the next thing that's going to happen, John, if
the Justice Department follows his protocol, and I believe it
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will under Pambondi. When you have a conspiracy case like
this against the mob or the drug cartels, the first
thing you do is you create a federal strike force
that then goes into action. You get your best and
brightest agents and prosecutes, you put them on one team,
and you go through the overt acts. I believe fam
Bondi's at that moment now where she has to make
a decision. Will she do that? I think she will.
(15:32):
You create a federal strike task force. What does that mean?
It means John Brennan, Barack Obama, James Comy, and all
the gang that we've been talking about, They're going to
be facing a strike force just like a mob boss did,
just like a drug cartel kingpin did. That's going to
be the next decision for Justice in the next few weeks.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Amazing, and I have every belief that the American people
will it'll take their breath away.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
The depths with which this.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Scheme to stop Trump every step of the way was
put in place, and how our entire constitutional republic, frankly,
in my view my estimation based on what I know
and what we've reported and what you reported, was put
in jeopardy the entire time. And thankfully it's now coming
to light. Let's see what happens with it. John Solomon,
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editor in chief, founder, chief investigative reporter justinnews dot com.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Thank you, sir. We'll see it at night on TV.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Great.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
I know, it's just shocking, so shocking in so many ways. Oh,
that Russia collusion happened. I spent three years of my
life covering all of this. Tulsea Gabbard, newly declassified information,
gave a mini presser at the White House earlier today,
and here's some of what she said, which we played earlier.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
There is irrefutable evidence that detail how President Obama and
his national security team directed creation of an intelligence community
assessment that they knew was false. They knew it would
promote this contrived narrative that Russia interfered in the twenty
sixteen election to help President Trump win, selling it to
the American people as though it were true.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
It wasn't.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
The report that we released today's shows in great detail
how they carried this out. They manufactured findings from shoddy sources,
They suppressed evidence and credible intelligence that disproved their false claims.
They disobeyed traditional trade craft intelligence community standards, and withheld
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the truth from the American people. In doing so, they
conspired to subvert the will of the American people who
elected Donald Trump in that election in November of twenty sixteen.
They worked with their partners in the media to promote
this lie, ultimately to undermine the legitimacy of President Trump
and launching what would be a year's long coup against
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him and his administration. Nation implicates former President Obama and
criminal behavior. We have referred and will continue to refer
all of these documents to the Department of Justice and
the FBI to investigate the criminal implications of this For
even the evidence correct, The evidence that we have found
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and that we have released directly point to President Obama
leading the manufacturing of this intelligence assessment. There are multiple
pieces of evidence and intelligence that confirm that fact.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Wow anyway, here to shed some more light on this
and give us more analysis of this. Alan Wilson, South
Carolina Attorney General, currently running for governor, supports the efforts
of the Department of National Intelligence and Tulsea Gabbard as
they now push for a may end up being a
special prosecutor or a council involved in this. You know,
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I've gone over this now with Bill O'Reilly and with
John Solomon and my own analysis and my own of
now what has been at two document disclosures, two declassifications
that have taken place with Tulca Gabbett and what is
beyond frustrating to me. It seems like deep state operatives,
to use the appropriate term of my view, have now
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put cinder blocks on the scales of three presidential elections.
Will work our way backwards in twenty twenty four, it
was all the weaponization from twenty to twenty twenty four
to make it impossible for Donald Trump to be a
viable candidate. If you look at the twenty twenty race,
we know that the FBI had verified the authenticity of
Hunter Biden's laptop. They knew that Bob Costello, then Rudy
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Giuliani's attorney at a copy of that laptop. They knew
that it would leak, and they spent the summer of
twenty twenty meeting with big tech companies on a weekly basis,
warning them about that they may be victims of a
Russian disinformation campaign that may involve Hunter and Joe Biden
and even Buris Holdings. And then when the New York
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Post story did break, in fact, a lot of these companies,
including Mark Zuckerberg and Jack Dorsey then running Twitter, said
is this what you've been warning about?
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Or is this true? They would not give them.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
The answer that they knew to be true is that
the laptop was in fact authentic and that they had
discovered that back in March, which means that they actively
participated in influencing the election, because that would have had
a big impact, in my view, on the election results.
And you worked your way back to twenty twenty, we're
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discovering through these classified documents that FBI director at the time,
James Comy, ignored key critical evidence in his determination about
Hillary Clinton's top secret classified information. I would argue to
give her a pass. We know that he himself and
others were warned not to trust the dirty Russian disinformation
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dossier that Hillary Clinton paid for. There was Russian election interference,
but that only came from that side, and that in fact,
this unverifiable, completely debunked now information was used for four
piza applications to backdoor spy on Donald Trump, both as
a candidate, as a transition team, and as a president.
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To me, it sounds like cinder blocks on scales of elections.
Do you see primes or a need for a huge investigation?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
What do you see in this showing absolutely?
Speaker 6 (21:34):
And you said at the very top of the block
time here you said, this is how shocking this is.
This is only four days since all this stuff has
been revealed. And the question that I keep asking myself
is if you look at how the intelligence assessment that
was issued leading up to December seventh was that Russia
had nothing to do with tampering of the between sixty election,
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and then you look at January sixth, the real controversial
January sixth and twenty seventeen, that there was a newly
issued intelligence assessment the same Russia did temper at the
twenty sixteen the election, and you realize that the President
of the United States directed that that new assessment be issued.
Then the question I have for people is do you
think Barack Obama would have reconvened the National Security Council
and ordered a new assessment if Hillary Clinton had won?
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And the answer is no, he wouldn't have The people
around Barack Obama and the Obama administration of some the
same people who weaponized the criminal justice system against President
Trump while using that same criminal justice system to protect
the Biden family. These are the same people that weaponize
the legacy media as well as our social media overlords
against President Trump. These are also the same people who
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weaponized the intelligence community industrial complex against the president. So
now they're calling all of us crazy and have called
us crazy. They've called you crazy, John Solomon, crazy for
daring to believe our eyes, our lying eyes, as opposed
to them. So I would love to see a full
on investigation and a full vetting of the truth for
the American people. We owe the American people nothing less.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
What do you make of Tulsea Gabbard's comments from earlier today.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
Well, I think she's incredibly courageous. I mean she used
very bold language, you know, treason, this conspiracy. She called
out the president, she called out everyone in his National
Security Council. I mean, she stood up there in front
of the American people and laid it all out and
stood up against the legacy media. So I mean, I'm very,
very proud of her. I'm very impressed with the fortitude
and the courage that she has had, and now they're
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going to go after her like nothing you've ever seen.
But I stand behind her, and I'm going to call
another Attorney's General in this country to stand for a
full accounting and a full investigation. In Pam Bondy, who
is a good friend of mine, I have full faith
and confidence that she will put the best people on
this and we will get an accounting of what happened
four or five years ago.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
If you take a look at some of the classified
materials that have come out to this point, we find
that rank and file career intelligence officials came to a
very different assessment than what ultimately evolved after and his
cronies at the highest levels of these three letter agencies
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got their hands on it. In other words, they said, no,
there was no Trump Russia collusion, and then all of
a sudden that emerged into there was, which emerged into
this narrative that literally took up an enormous inordinate amount
of time during Donald Trump's presidency. Do you believe that
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the evidence is now showing that they purposely, to use
John Solomon's words, polluted and corrupted that information for political purposes.
And if they did, what is the crime?
Speaker 6 (24:36):
Well, I absolutely agree, John Solomon. I do believe that
they polluted, you know, this whole process for their own
personal political agenda. And again, the same people around President Obama,
you know, during that period of time of the same
people that were driving everything against President Trump during his
first term, as well as all the criminal trials in
the civil cases going against him when he was out
of office, and they're the ones trying to discredit the president. Now, obviously,
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you know, I want to withhold my final judgment or
what crimes have been committed, but until we get something
more from the Department of Justice. But I stand one
thousand percent behind Tulci Gabbard and you and everyone else
calling on a full vetting and a full accounting. We
need an investigation, We need a full report on this.
And now I don't want the report coming from members
of Congress, even in our own party. I want the
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report coming from the law enforcement community and the Justice
Department as it stands right now.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
If you are the attorney Jeremal and you are the
Attorney General of South Carolina, how would you approach this
from an investigative standpoint based on what we now know
that has been declassified?
Speaker 6 (25:35):
I mean full transparency. I mean Tulcie Gabbert's released all
the documents that she has found. I think we have
to allow the Justice Department an opportunity to appoint a
special counsel if that's the direction they decide to go.
We have to give them an opportunity to put things together.
And I think Attorney General Bonding needs to have a
press conference. My recommendation would be to her that trust
and credibility must be restored into the criminal justice system
(25:57):
at the federal level as well as the intelligence community.
And the only way to do that is to allow
the American people to have full sunlight, full transparency, full accounting,
make everything available on public portals on the website, give
us access to everything, and then let us look for ourselves, don't.
I don't want talking heads on the left wing media
news outlet's telling me what I should believe. I want
to see it for myself, and that's what the attorneys
(26:17):
all to do in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Quick break right back, we'll continue more with Alan Wilson,
South Carolina Attorney General on the other side, and more
of your calls coming up as well, and all things simple. Man,
Bill O'Reilly eight hundred and ninety four one, Shawn is
our number.
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Up next, our final roundup and information overload.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Our all right, we continue now with South Carolina Attorney
General Alan Wilson is with us. What about Cash Ptel,
the FBI director, and his investigation that he opened weeks
ago into this grand conspiracy that this has now gone
on through three presidential elections. Is it possible in this
(28:32):
great country of ours, this great constitutional republic that we
live in, that in fact, that there are people at
the highest levels of government that did try to influence
the outcome of elections with disinformation.
Speaker 6 (28:47):
I mean, listen, it shatters people's trust and whatever trust
and states some of us had in the federal government,
which I really haven't had a lot of in the
last ten years, but it has shatters people's faith and
confidence and law enforcement. You know, when cash Tail came in,
I heard that he cleaned out the top floor of
the FBI building and got rid of all of the
institutional people and started rebuilding his senior leadership team. I
(29:08):
thought that was a great beginning to his administration at
the FBI. Get rid of the old and put in
fresh new people that don't have any political leanings or
at least aren't beholden to political interest, and empower them
to go find the truth. And I'm glad to see
what he's done thus far, and I trusted this investigation
will reveal the truth eventually.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Well I think it will, but I mean, just based
on what we're seeing now, there certainly seems to be
a corruption of information for the purposes of undermining a
newly and duly elected president of the United States, and
it did consume three years of Trump's presidency, so it
seems pretty overwhelming. As we begin our investigative part of
(29:50):
it just your knowledge of the law on the periphery,
what what might they be looking at legal legally in
terms of laws that were broken. I would imagine if
you're trying to influence the outcome of an election, that
there's got to be statutes that are applicable.
Speaker 6 (30:08):
Well. Absolutely, And in this particular case, it's come down
to intent and authority. What authority did the president have?
Was he acting within the confines of his constitutional authority?
And then what was his intent? And again, obviously there's
a Supreme Court case on the President Trump regarding presidential
authority and what is and what is not considered criminal
or sanctionable conduct, and they're going to have to apply that.
(30:28):
But right now is this is the post election of
twenty sixteen, going into December of twenty sixteen. In January
twenty seventeen, was President Obama trying to undermine intentionally undermine
President Trump as he entered office? What did he know?
When did he know it? Obviously? I think the evidence
spares out right now that he had he had a motivation,
Otherwise he wouldn't have reissued that intelligence assessment. Has Hillary
(30:52):
Clinton won, there would have been no reissuing he would
have gone with what they had because it wouldn't have
mattered to him. But Trump was coming into office and
they had stopping they had the undermining. That is what
I believe, but I'm going to reserve my final judgment
until we get a full vetting in an investigation.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Well do you think, for example, in twenty twenty, when
they knew and they had validated the authenticity of Hunter's laptop,
and they were meeting weekly with big tech companies, and
even though they knew the truth, when the story broke publicly,
they would not validate that. But the very companies that
they were were warning that they might be victims of
(31:28):
a disinformation campaign. Of does that sound like election interference
to you?
Speaker 6 (31:33):
It very well could be, Sean, I mean absolutely it
could be election interference. And again I want to see
more information, but absolutely these people were colluding with the
big tech bros, the art tech overlords. They were colluding
with folks within the criminal justices and the FBI. They've
been colluding with folks across the political spectrum to undermine
President Trump. And that's why you know, I want to
(31:55):
I want to see cash Betail and Pambondy. I want
to see them, shine a full light on this thing.
I appreciate what told see Gabbart is done. Put it
all out there, let's investigate it, and let's hold these
people accountable under criminal law if we can. At a minimum,
let's least shame the hell out of them.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yeah, I agree. Anyway, we appreciate your time, Attorney General
South Carolina, Alan Wilson, Thank you, sir for being with us.
We appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (32:16):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Eight hundred nine four one. Shawn is our number if
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