August 19, 2025 • 29 mins
In this electrifying episode, we dive deep into the latest developments in the Ukraine-Russia peace talks, showcasing the pivotal role of former President Donald Trump in facilitating dialogue where others have failed. With world leaders expressing gratitude for Trump's diplomatic efforts, we discuss the implications of his approach compared to the previous administration's inaction. Missouri Senator Eric Schmidt joins us to highlight the importance of election integrity and the need for Republicans to stand strong against the left's attempts to undermine our democracy. Tune in for a powerful conversation about American leadership, national security, and the fight for a brighter future!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thanks Scott can An Hour two Sean Hannity Show, eight
hundred and nine four one, Shawn is one number you
want to be a part of the program. We've got
to start with the news of the day and what
Plan B might be. And I'm only thinking ahead. I mean,
my hope is is that if Putin and Zelenski get
together and they have bilateral meetings that lead to a
trilateral meeting with Donald Trump, that you know, maybe they'll
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be peace in Europe and that will be the eighth
piece deal Donald Trump has had of hand it. That
would be the best case scenario. However, what would plan
be be? What would Plan B look like if in
fact Putin, as many suspect, you know, might not really
want this deal to happen. But I don't know the
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answer to that anyway. Here's world leaders yesterday praising President
Trump for his role in the Ukraine rush of peace talks.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Er, you want to thank you President of the United States,
the Donalds for the fact that you, as I said
before it broke the detlom basically the President putting best
starting their dialogue. And I think it was a February
that you had first a phone call and from there.
We are now very are today, and that is I
think if we played this well, we could enter.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
I think it is an important day, a new phase.
After three years and half that we didn't see any
kind of sign from the Russian side that there was
a willing for dialogue. So something is changing, something has
changed thanks to you.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
I think in the past two weeks we've probably had
more progress in ending this war than we have in
the past three and a half years. And I think
the fact that we're around this table today is very
much symbolic in the sense that it's team Europe and
team United States helping Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
All right, And here is the President saying this motivation.
What is his motivation? He wants to stop the killing
about five to seven thousand people a week.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Listen, we've had a very successful day, though far important
discussions as we work to end the killing and stop
the war in Ukraine. We're all working for the same goal,
very simple goal. We want to stop the killing, get
this settled.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
And then of course the president calls out the corrupt
legacy media mob and they're abusively biased coverage. But remember,
no world leader, none could have accomplished what he so
far has been able to accomplish. That's meeting Putin in
Alaska on Friday, having you know, all the European world leaders,
en Zelensky at the White House yesterday, and at least
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there's a window of opportunity to end the killing and
end the war and bring peace to Europe, which would
be in everybody's best interest. The most amazing thing is
to me, Joe Biden never picked up a call as
Putin is amassing troops and military equipment on the border,
just like you know, they didn't lift a finger Obama
or Biden when Crimea was annexed. And secondly, I think
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you know the most important thing is he never picked
up the phone either and said, you know, let's let's talk.
Let's see if we can find a negotiated settlement here.
Only Donald Trump does it and nobody in your bothered
to do it either. Senator Eric Schmidt, great to have
you back. Congratulations sir on the book. Let's get your
reaction all this.
Speaker 6 (03:18):
I think it's we're just so grateful, I think, to
have a president that has the strength and the courage
to fight for peace. You know, it's such a contrast
from what we saw. You talked about it the last
four years where there was no plan, there's no dialogue.
And I think President Trump one of his great legacies,
certainly from his first term, was there were no wars.
You know, we weren't involved in any as a great legacy.
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Now he's extending that, taking it step further. He's trying
to solve these problems around the globe. He's already got
a great resume on that just in six or seven
months now. But this is the one now. I mean,
who knows where this ultimately goes, but the idea that
he would open up this conversation to have the confidence
to meet with President Putin in Alaska and then again
have all the European leaders and so lend and you
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can just see in the room, this is what American
leadership looks like. It's what's supposed to be. We're the
United States of America and we have a president now
we can be very proud of his all his capabilities
and is convening people. The power to convene is an
underrated power that the president has, and President Trump is
a master at this. And we'll see where this goes.
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But I just think we should be very proud of
our president that he's willing to go down this road here.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
If you look at everything that the president is doing,
I mean we've talked about, you know, for example, Azerbaijan
and Armenia and Israel in Iran and Egypt and Ethiopia,
and you know, seven different piece deals that he's had
to hand it. And I'm not saying that he's responsible
totally for Rwanda, the Congo, you know, conflicts that have
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gone on for many, many years. And I asked him
about this in my interview with him on Friday, and
I said, how does how are you able to pull
this off? He's he's tying everything into the economy and
and the trade deals that he's doing with these individual countries,
which I think is pretty clever. And he seems to
understand something that most American presidents have not understood, and
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that is the power and might of America's economy and
the impact it has on all of these countries and
their need to do business in the United States.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
That's right, and I think so many people I see
this in the Senate and others. So many people just
really like being welcomed and the red carpet rolled out
and being flattered and all that President Trump is really engaged,
I think, in the real hard work of diplomacy, and
he understands the levers of power. He understands that forty
percent of all the consumer spending in the world comes
from the United States of America. And so one of
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the things that nobody ever adjusted from Sean after the
Cold War ended was that we had all these bad
trade deals and NATO was kind of essentially subsidized by
the United States. But President Trump has said is, look,
you guys need to kind of stand up on your
own two feet, and we're not going to get ripped
off anymore. We understand that we want to defeat Soviet communism,
but that era now we're shifting, So you guys need
to be more self reliant. And also these terrible deals
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that we had to sort of protect you after as
you could build up after World War Two, that's a
different era. So he's using that. He's going to and saying, look,
we're not going to get ripped off anymore. What can
you do if you want to have access to our
markets and we're getting great deals. I was just at
the state fair in Missouri. The farmers and the ranchers
are really appreciative the fact that they can now sell
beef in Australia. There's all these kind of things that
are unfolding that the President understands what the levers are,
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he's not afraid to use them, and people respect that.
You look at the respect that was in that room.
They know there's a strong leader in charge of the
United States of America now and he's using that power
for good, which is to try to bring about peace.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
If you look at everything the president's doing, look at
the economy for example, I mean, the president has fifteen
trillion dollars in committed moneies for manufacturing. That's going to
create a lot of high paying career jobs for many Americans,
but also things that impact on national secure Everything from
rare earths and semiconductor chips and pharmaceuticals and automobile manufacturing
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is coming back fifteen trillion between companies and countries that
are are are planning to invest in the next four years,
and probably it will be expedited because of what was
in the One Big Beautiful Bill, which is one hundred
percent bonus appreciation that incentivizes companies to build out very quickly.
So I think that's going to help the economy. I
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think his position on energy dominance and freeing up you know,
fracking and drilling and also coal mining, that's going to
help the economy. I think the biggest tax cut in
American history and no tax on tips or overtime, that's
going to help the economy. Then you look that the
president has been able to secure our border, bring even
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you know, some stability and peace to DC and end
fundismantle NOBIL laws, and he's deporting illegal immigrants in the country.
Pretty transformational, pretty big things. And I'm not so I'm
not sure we'll ever see this in our lifetime again.
A president that just works around the clock and takes
on every big issue and is willing to expend the
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political capital. I think most presidents would never dare go
near Ukraine in Russia.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
That's right. And I and you know, spent a lot
of time with him, and I have to traveling around
with President Trump, whether he's on Air Force one or
Trump Force one. And which you're struck by as a
man is his energy and his love for the country.
You know, he just he's doing this because he really
believes in America and he thinks that he can, you know,
help save it, and he is. I mean, you just
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rattled off a bunch of accomplishments just in six months.
I was there on in the White House Rose Garden
there on Liberation Day, and I remember telling Jim Banks
is another center from Indiana, tell him just we're never
going to see anything like this ever again. I mean,
his his willingness to take this on. I mean, no
president in my lifetime has been willing to do that.
And it's he's understood for a long time this deep
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connection he has with working class America, so called fly
over country. They know he goes and fights for them.
And yes, there are the jobs, but there's also this
investment and a sense of pride and a sense of
patriotism that comes when we know that we have a
leader that's fighting for America we've had and by the way,
from a national security perspective, it's so important. You can't
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have eighty percent of the pharmaceuticals come from somewhere else.
You can't have ninety percent of the chips high functioning
chips come from somewhere else. You can't have since napped
that ninety thousand factories, ninety thousand factories leave the United
States of America. So what this is about is reposition
in our economy, so we're more resilient, more we're mores,
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We're more resilient, we're more self reliant, and we're going
to continue to trade and we're going to open up
trade markets around the world. But if we're trying to
build F forty sevens, which we are in Saint Louis now,
is like the next gen fighter, we can't be relying
on other countries for critical minerals to build those things
from iPhones to fighter jebs. So he understands that uitively,
and he's actually using the tools necessary to bring those
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jobs home.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
People have no idea how important rare earth minerals are
towards our national defense. All right, quick break more with
Senator Eric Schmid of Missouri. He has a new book out,
by the way, it's called The Last Line of Defense.
We have it up on Hannity dot com. It's on
Amazon dot com, bookstores around the country. Eight hundred and
nine one. Shawn is a number. We'll get to your
calls coming up as well as we continue. We continue
(10:26):
now with Missouri. Senator Eric Schmid is with us. He's
got a new book out. It's called the last line
of defense. Don't forget. We'll be getting to your phone
calls after the bottom of the hour eight hundred and
nine four one Sean, what other idea. The President brought
it up in my interview in Alaska after the summit
with Putin, but he brought it up in the pool
spray yesterday, and that is that he wants Republicans to
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get on the issue of voting integrity. For me, it's
it's a pretty simple formula. It's not really that complicated.
Paper ballots, voter ID, signature verification, paining to custody, and
cameras for any mail in votes, which I believe should
be limited to the military and people that are sick.
I think every state has to have updated voter roles
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for every election. Partisan observers and every precinct in the country.
They watch the voting all day, the vote counting all night.
We get an answer at the end of the night
and a winner has chosen, and we have integrity in
the system. First, let me play the President saying it,
and then well, I'll ask you that question. I would
love to see election reform.
Speaker 7 (11:27):
We have to do it. I don't know why we're
not doing it. Bring it up. The Democrat idea want it. Look,
the Republicans want it, but not strongly enough. I mean
they gotta want us strong because it can't be it
can't be honest. It goes through a postman, it goes
through somebody else, somebody else, somebody. You know, when you
go to a really well run voting booth, you go in,
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you have to hand a card, a picture of this
or that.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
You don't have everything perfectly, you get.
Speaker 7 (11:54):
Sent back, go get it. It's really it's very hard
to do something for rigulent with a vote paper, valet,
mail in voting. It's they give you boxes of stuff.
You have no idea where they came from. This mail
in voting. You can't have a great democracy republic, you
can't have it. Well, maybe that's why we're going to
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end up with a communist mayor in New York.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Anyway, get your reaction to it, and my list, I
think is as comprehensive as we'd need. And I think
everybody can have confidence in the process and confidence in
the integrity and in terms of the results, and nobody's
going to be questioning elections. Democrats have questioned that Republicans
have questioned the outcomes. So I would think in the
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spirit of fair elections, you know, those measures would go
a long way to to instilling integrity in the system.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
Yes, and Sean, this used to not be a part
of an issue, which is kind of amazing. There was
something called the Carter Baker Commission about twenty years ago,
and it came out with a recommendation of ten things
you could do to secure our elections, and limiting mail
and balloting was one of them. There's a lot of
the voter ID is another one, and all these things
that for a long time were just sort of common sense.
But what President Trump's putting his finger on is something
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that's I think important to note is the left doesn't
believe in any of these things anymore. It's just about
power and control. And one of the things in the
Last Line of Defense, How to Beat the Left in Court,
which is available on Amazon right now. The book that
is launching today is we took this on in Missouri.
You know, Mark Elias came in twenty twenty for all
these election laws, including in Missouri. We fought back and
we won. But he wanted a few states like Georgia
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and in Pennsylvania and their voting laws were up ended,
and they used COVID as a reason. We can't ever
forget how dedicated the left is to upending America as
we know it. You know, I brought the Missouri versus
Biden lawsuit, the censorship lawsuit, taking the deposition of Elvis Chan,
the FBI agent that was pre bunking the Hunter Biden
laptop laptop story, taking the deposition of Anthony Fauchia. I
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wanted to write this book so people get an inside
glimpse of what this terrain really looks like. The left
is not only at the highest level of government trying
to censor speech, but also this kind of woke indoctrination
in our schools, and we have to have the courage
to stand up and fight back. President Trump, I think
has given Republicans one of the ways he's changed the party. Sean,
and I'm so happy about. Coming from a working class neighborhood,
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I know you feel the same way as the courage
to fight. I think for a long time we sort
of lamented how Democrats were and all the things that
they did. But now we have a leader who's stared
down the law there, He's stared down all the attacks.
He came back and sort comeback. He's winning, and that's
a good reason for us all to.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Continue to fight the last line of defense. That goes
into everything from censorship and the digital age, to opposition
to the vaccine and mask mandates, and fighting woke ideology
in school and border security, and separation of powers and
the abuse of activist justices on the courts and the
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weaponization of government agencies our Second Amendment rights. Anyway, it's
called the Last line of Defense, Senator Eric Schmidt. We
appreciate your time. Congratulations on the book. It's on Amazon
dot com. We'll put a link on Hannity dot com,
and it's in bookstores around the country. Thank you.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
Thanks Sean Soon.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Eight hundred and nine four one showing is a number
if you want to be a part of the program.
Is kind of interesting if you if you really listen
to democrats and you pay very close attention. We learned
a couple of things about Barack Obama and David Axelrod
is that privately they are talking to and obviously supporting
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uh Coami or Marxist Mondani in New York City. Remember
when that moment Joe the Plumber, when Obama was running
for president. He talked about spreading the wealth around. You know,
Obama always held these radical views. We talked about the
Community Organizer. We talked about Acorn at the time. We
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talked about the Chum Gang. We talked about Frank Marshall Davis.
We talked about Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dorn. We talked
about Reverend Wright. After nine to eleven. No, no, no,
not God, bless America, g d America. It's in the Bible,
blah blah blah, and that's who he always was. But
the difference between say Obama and Mom Donnie and the
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modern Democratic Party and Obama. Obama I would argue and
always believed, you know, shared these views. But the political
environment at the time would not allow him to be
as honest as say a Mom Donnie in AOC A
Jasmine Crockett, of Bernie Sanders, a Pocahontas or squad member.
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It wouldn't allow him to do it. But I think
he really believed it. I think if he had the
opportunity to be more radical, he would have done it.
You know, the disaster of Obamacare, the one example, you
know that the one thing that he hangs his hat
on is is an utter disaster. I don't know why
people put their faith in government. All of you that
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listened to this program, I am telling you, don't put
your faith, your hope, your trust in government anything. Just
don't do it. I mean, we need a strong military.
I would argue we do the military well, but we'll
probably not cost efficient in terms of Medicare, Medicaid, social Security.
They're going to have to come up with ways to
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save it. And I think the best way to do
that is grow the economy. And that's what President Trump
is in the process of doing. I think he's got
all of the building blocks put in place for a
boom economy, which would be great for every American, especially
as shifting economy with artificial intelligence and everything that President
Trump does. The left is against. I mean, they champion
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the rights of men to play women's sports. That's a
ninety ten issue, but they're on the ten percent side.
They'll champion the likes of Abrego Garcia or the so
called rights of illegal immigrants over the safety and security
of American citizens. You know, many of whom have been
murdered and raped and victims of violent crime. They don't
(18:02):
seem to care that known terrorists are in the country,
gang members, cartel members, and all these other violent criminals,
and they complain about, oh, well, they're actually arresting people
that broke the law. This is outrageous. I can't believe it.
What about the treatment. Oh they're deporting people that didn't
respect our law's border sovereignty. It's just the radicalism now
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is more exposed, and they're just more outspoken about it.
And I'm not sure why they, you know, after the
last election in particular, why they would double down on
policies that didn't resonate with the American people. But that's
what they're doing, and that is the state of the
Democratic Party. So when David Axelrod makes these comments they
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don't want Trump to succeed. He's not saying it outright,
he's just saying that. You know, world leaders now think
of how profound this is. Donald Trump is able to
accomplish that which nobody else was able to accomplish, and
that to get Vladimir Putin to the table, you know,
didn't work. Joe Biden calling Putin a murdering dictator thug, which,
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by the way, I think he is putting that to
the side. Neither here nor there. The Joe Biden that
never picked up a phone as Putin's amassing troops and
military equipment on the border with Ukraine. The guy that
was Vice president when Obama did nothing when Crimea was annexed.
Remember it was the Democratic Party that and Bill Clinton
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that forced Ukraine or talked Ukraine. I don't know why
Ukraine ever did this. After the breakup of the former
Soviet Union, they had nineteen hundred or thereabouts nuclear weapons
and they were convinced to give them up with security
guarantees that were never fulfilled by anybody. And Russia never
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respected the agreements that were signed at the time in
terms of borders. And hence we find ourselves in this
situation a vulnerable Ukraine because they were stupid to give
up those nuclear weapons. They never should have. So Donald
Trump meets with Putin in Alaska on Friday. Has every
European leader and NATO leader that matters at the White
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House yesterday. And this is what David Axerod's comments are in.
Speaker 8 (20:17):
The world has learned, and Vladimir Putin above all has
learned that flattery is a very very effective tool with
this president, and all of them are tripping over each
other to do that. You know, Putin, who's a master manipulator,
I'm sure, is giving Trump the impression that they are
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special friends and he wants to be cooperative to help him.
That is not who Vladimir Putin is. Vladimir Putin is
everything that has been said. He's a killer and a thug,
and he is pursuing his own agenda, which is for
you know, this Russian expansionist agenda.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
It was under his friend Barack Hussein Obama when Crimea
was annexed. And what did Obama do? Nothing? I mean,
maybe maybe he's right. Maybe Putin is trying to flatter
Donald Trump. Doesn't matter. He showed up in Alaska and
the fact that no European country, no European leader, or
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no American president besides Trump could get him to the
table speaks volumes, or can get all these European leaders
and NATO leaders at the White House. Anyway, Let's get
to our busy telephones. Eight hundred nine four one show
is our number. If you want to be a part
of the program. Joe in New York, Joe, how are
you glad you called?
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yes?
Speaker 9 (21:40):
Hey, thank you Sean for taking my call. I really
I really appreciate it. So I just wanted to touch on
the Ukraine situation here, so you know my opinion, like
I get before, you know, was costing US money to
give weapons to Ukraine, and there was this whole narrative about, hey,
we don't want to be you know, spending money to
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help another country and so forth. But right now, the
way it's set up is that basically, you know, they're
going to be buying weapons from the US. They're going
to basically you know, NATO's going to buy from the US.
It's going to go to uh, you know, to NATO,
and they're going to disperse it. So, you know, I
just think that if we're basically saying to Ukraine or
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we're basically seeding or we're allowing Ukraine to see territory
to Russia, that's just from the perspective of America and
who we are as the people, I just think that's
pretty weak. I think what we should do is if
they're willing to fight, if they're willing to fight and
they're buying the weapons from US, then we should just
allow it to We should allow them to do that
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and not basically put demands on them about you know
that they should, you know, see territory. You know, I
heard President Trump this morning say something about, uh, you
know Ukraine. You know, they're taking on a nation that's
ten times bigger than they are. And I look, in
my mind, I'm saying, well, we did during the Revolutionary
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War when you had the British Empire. I mean maybe
the British Empire was like fifteen times bigger in terms
of the land area. So I don't know where these
ideas are coming from. It's just I just find it's
the wrong approach for me. We should just it's not
costing us anything. We should just let them find them out.
So you know this thing about oh, I.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Mean what you're saying is we should we should just
stand back, let the killing continue, not care at all
that it could lead to a wider conflict in Europe.
It's you know, look, at the end of the day,
we benefit the least. I will concede your point. We
benefit the least of any country that is involved in
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these discussions.
Speaker 9 (23:52):
Right now.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
However, America is taking the lead.
Speaker 9 (23:57):
You know.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
I look, I kind of agree with the Trump doctrine,
and the Trump doctrine I would define as this is
no forever wars. We're not going to fight a proxy
war like Biden was fighting with you with Russia by
providing hundreds of billions of dollars in military equipment that
you know, at our expense. He'll sell them the weapons
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so that they can defend themselves against an invasion. I
think America, you know, has to be that shining city
on the hill and advance the cause of freedom when
at all possible, but without being the world's policeman. I
know it's selective at times, you know. I don't think
we'd lose a lot of capital if President Trump it
helps Armenian Azerbaijan, or Egypt in Ethiopia, or Iran in Israel,
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or you know, the Congo and Rwanda or any of
these other places where he's played a role, or Indian
Pakistan for example. So I don't think we're any worse
off for it. But I do believe that there is
a time and a place for military force, and it
doesn't in flicked with the idea of no forever wars.
And the President showed that in his first term by
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beating Isis and taking out Solomani and taking out bag
Daddy and associates and even dropping the mother of all
bombs on Afghanistan and in his second term knocking out
Around's nuclear sites. So you know, if you want them
to fight it out, okay, but if you have a
chance to stop the death and stop the conflict and
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maybe in the end actually even helped save Ukraine as
a country, because if it the longer this goes on,
I say the odds are greater that although you know,
if President Trump, if Ukraine is able to get enough
money through rarers to NATO and European countries, you know,
they could fight on for a long period of time.
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But then we are also it's like a cancer that
could spread throughout the continent of Europe. So I think
it's worth a shot, and I kind of support the
Trump doctrine in and what the President's doing. Let's see
how it plays out. If it doesn't work, then the
president plan B would be to punish Vladimir Putin economically.
Speaker 9 (26:05):
I guess those arguments are all valid and I get
all that, But at the bottom of this is, like
you said, President Trump signed the rare earth mineral deal, right,
so there's an incentive for Ukraine to become free. And
the other thing is freedom isn't free, whether we're talking
about the Revolutionary War, the American Revolutionary War, or World
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War two, Like what did we do? We fought to
the end. Like, yes, there's lives, there's death, but there's
no Americans involved in this. You know, we're trying to
support you said, you know, America is the light on
the hill. Yeah, we all agree on that. So my
thing is, yes, death is bad, but my thing is
they're going.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
To fight it out.
Speaker 9 (26:49):
We're basically saying that, you know, America is like, we
don't have the capability to help them, and we're not
even they're not even we're not even paying anything for
it at this point. They just want to get to
their borders. We should allow them to do it. You know.
Basically President Trump today was saying, you know that you
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know Ukraine, like, who would want? Who would want? You
know Ukraine a part of NATO that's bordering them. Well,
you know, I don't know what's going on in the
Senate and the Congress, but there's already four countries that
are part of NATO that are basically bordering Russia, Estonia, Latvia, Norway,
and Finland. I believe is even part of NATO. So
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this whole notion about, hey, we you know, they don't
want Ukraine part of NATO. If Ukraine wants to be
free and they want to join, they want to join
the freedom loving people of the world. It shouldn't be
up to Russia to dictate to us what a free
a free country should be. I mean, we're not losing
anything here, like Trump did all the right steps. You know,
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we're talking about Biden. You mentioned Obama about you know,
seeding the CRIMEA. Yes, I agree with that. But we
are where we are now, so you know, all good
points you're saying. I just think that they should be
allowed to fight for themselves the way we did during
our revolutionary.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Okay, but they're fighting for themselves and they're out of
point now where they're drafting sixty euros into their army
because they don't have enough people to fight. That's the reality.
So at some point you got to ask yourself, what
are you going to have left at the end of
this conflict. You know, the amount of rubble and wreckage
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and death and dying has been and the cost has
been enormous. I'm not saying they at the end of
the day, they may end up fighting it out. But
if you can take a window of opportunity and at
least give it a shot, why not. We have nothing
to lose here, nothing, and the only thing we have
to gain is maybe lives can be saved and maybe
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we prevent a broader conflict in Europe as a result
of the President's actions. That that I think is a
noble cause and a noble thing for America to do.
And it's it's it is in no way contradictory from
my perspective of the President's own doctrine. But I hear
what you're saying.
Speaker 9 (29:12):
I do.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
I think America has this unique role in the world
and if we can do good with you know, we've
accumulated more power, abused it less, and advanced the cause
of good more than any other country in history, and
I think we should continue that tradition without getting involved
in forever wars. So anyway, appreciate the call, my friend,
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God bless you. Eight hundred and ninety four one, Shawn
is a number you want to be a part of
the program.
Thanks Scott can An Hour two Sean Hannity Show, eight
hundred and nine four one, Shawn is one number you
want to be a part of the program. We've got
to start with the news of the day and what
Plan B might be. And I'm only thinking ahead. I mean,
my hope is is that if Putin and Zelenski get
together and they have bilateral meetings that lead to a
trilateral meeting with Donald Trump, that you know, maybe they'll
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be peace in Europe and that will be the eighth
piece deal Donald Trump has had of hand it. That
would be the best case scenario. However, what would plan
be be? What would Plan B look like if in
fact Putin, as many suspect, you know, might not really
want this deal to happen. But I don't know the
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answer to that anyway. Here's world leaders yesterday praising President
Trump for his role in the Ukraine rush of peace talks.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Er, you want to thank you President of the United States,
the Donalds for the fact that you, as I said
before it broke the detlom basically the President putting best
starting their dialogue. And I think it was a February
that you had first a phone call and from there.
We are now very are today, and that is I
think if we played this well, we could enter.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
I think it is an important day, a new phase.
After three years and half that we didn't see any
kind of sign from the Russian side that there was
a willing for dialogue. So something is changing, something has
changed thanks to you.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
I think in the past two weeks we've probably had
more progress in ending this war than we have in
the past three and a half years. And I think
the fact that we're around this table today is very
much symbolic in the sense that it's team Europe and
team United States helping Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
All right, And here is the President saying this motivation.
What is his motivation? He wants to stop the killing
about five to seven thousand people a week.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Listen, we've had a very successful day, though far important
discussions as we work to end the killing and stop
the war in Ukraine. We're all working for the same goal,
very simple goal. We want to stop the killing, get
this settled.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
And then of course the president calls out the corrupt
legacy media mob and they're abusively biased coverage. But remember,
no world leader, none could have accomplished what he so
far has been able to accomplish. That's meeting Putin in
Alaska on Friday, having you know, all the European world leaders,
en Zelensky at the White House yesterday, and at least
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there's a window of opportunity to end the killing and
end the war and bring peace to Europe, which would
be in everybody's best interest. The most amazing thing is
to me, Joe Biden never picked up a call as
Putin is amassing troops and military equipment on the border,
just like you know, they didn't lift a finger Obama
or Biden when Crimea was annexed. And secondly, I think
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you know the most important thing is he never picked
up the phone either and said, you know, let's let's talk.
Let's see if we can find a negotiated settlement here.
Only Donald Trump does it and nobody in your bothered
to do it either. Senator Eric Schmidt, great to have
you back. Congratulations sir on the book. Let's get your
reaction all this.
Speaker 6 (03:18):
I think it's we're just so grateful, I think, to
have a president that has the strength and the courage
to fight for peace. You know, it's such a contrast
from what we saw. You talked about it the last
four years where there was no plan, there's no dialogue.
And I think President Trump one of his great legacies,
certainly from his first term, was there were no wars.
You know, we weren't involved in any as a great legacy.
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Now he's extending that, taking it step further. He's trying
to solve these problems around the globe. He's already got
a great resume on that just in six or seven
months now. But this is the one now. I mean,
who knows where this ultimately goes, but the idea that
he would open up this conversation to have the confidence
to meet with President Putin in Alaska and then again
have all the European leaders and so lend and you
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can just see in the room, this is what American
leadership looks like. It's what's supposed to be. We're the
United States of America and we have a president now
we can be very proud of his all his capabilities
and is convening people. The power to convene is an
underrated power that the president has, and President Trump is
a master at this. And we'll see where this goes.
(04:22):
But I just think we should be very proud of
our president that he's willing to go down this road here.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
If you look at everything that the president is doing,
I mean we've talked about, you know, for example, Azerbaijan
and Armenia and Israel in Iran and Egypt and Ethiopia,
and you know, seven different piece deals that he's had
to hand it. And I'm not saying that he's responsible
totally for Rwanda, the Congo, you know, conflicts that have
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gone on for many, many years. And I asked him
about this in my interview with him on Friday, and
I said, how does how are you able to pull
this off? He's he's tying everything into the economy and
and the trade deals that he's doing with these individual countries,
which I think is pretty clever. And he seems to
understand something that most American presidents have not understood, and
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that is the power and might of America's economy and
the impact it has on all of these countries and
their need to do business in the United States.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
That's right, and I think so many people I see
this in the Senate and others. So many people just
really like being welcomed and the red carpet rolled out
and being flattered and all that President Trump is really engaged,
I think, in the real hard work of diplomacy, and
he understands the levers of power. He understands that forty
percent of all the consumer spending in the world comes
from the United States of America. And so one of
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the things that nobody ever adjusted from Sean after the
Cold War ended was that we had all these bad
trade deals and NATO was kind of essentially subsidized by
the United States. But President Trump has said is, look,
you guys need to kind of stand up on your
own two feet, and we're not going to get ripped
off anymore. We understand that we want to defeat Soviet communism,
but that era now we're shifting, So you guys need
to be more self reliant. And also these terrible deals
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that we had to sort of protect you after as
you could build up after World War Two, that's a
different era. So he's using that. He's going to and saying, look,
we're not going to get ripped off anymore. What can
you do if you want to have access to our
markets and we're getting great deals. I was just at
the state fair in Missouri. The farmers and the ranchers
are really appreciative the fact that they can now sell
beef in Australia. There's all these kind of things that
are unfolding that the President understands what the levers are,
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he's not afraid to use them, and people respect that.
You look at the respect that was in that room.
They know there's a strong leader in charge of the
United States of America now and he's using that power
for good, which is to try to bring about peace.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
If you look at everything the president's doing, look at
the economy for example, I mean, the president has fifteen
trillion dollars in committed moneies for manufacturing. That's going to
create a lot of high paying career jobs for many Americans,
but also things that impact on national secure Everything from
rare earths and semiconductor chips and pharmaceuticals and automobile manufacturing
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is coming back fifteen trillion between companies and countries that
are are are planning to invest in the next four years,
and probably it will be expedited because of what was
in the One Big Beautiful Bill, which is one hundred
percent bonus appreciation that incentivizes companies to build out very quickly.
So I think that's going to help the economy. I
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think his position on energy dominance and freeing up you know,
fracking and drilling and also coal mining, that's going to
help the economy. I think the biggest tax cut in
American history and no tax on tips or overtime, that's
going to help the economy. Then you look that the
president has been able to secure our border, bring even
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you know, some stability and peace to DC and end
fundismantle NOBIL laws, and he's deporting illegal immigrants in the country.
Pretty transformational, pretty big things. And I'm not so I'm
not sure we'll ever see this in our lifetime again.
A president that just works around the clock and takes
on every big issue and is willing to expend the
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political capital. I think most presidents would never dare go
near Ukraine in Russia.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
That's right. And I and you know, spent a lot
of time with him, and I have to traveling around
with President Trump, whether he's on Air Force one or
Trump Force one. And which you're struck by as a
man is his energy and his love for the country.
You know, he just he's doing this because he really
believes in America and he thinks that he can, you know,
help save it, and he is. I mean, you just
(08:38):
rattled off a bunch of accomplishments just in six months.
I was there on in the White House Rose Garden
there on Liberation Day, and I remember telling Jim Banks
is another center from Indiana, tell him just we're never
going to see anything like this ever again. I mean,
his his willingness to take this on. I mean, no
president in my lifetime has been willing to do that.
And it's he's understood for a long time this deep
(09:00):
connection he has with working class America, so called fly
over country. They know he goes and fights for them.
And yes, there are the jobs, but there's also this
investment and a sense of pride and a sense of
patriotism that comes when we know that we have a
leader that's fighting for America we've had and by the way,
from a national security perspective, it's so important. You can't
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have eighty percent of the pharmaceuticals come from somewhere else.
You can't have ninety percent of the chips high functioning
chips come from somewhere else. You can't have since napped
that ninety thousand factories, ninety thousand factories leave the United
States of America. So what this is about is reposition
in our economy, so we're more resilient, more we're mores,
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We're more resilient, we're more self reliant, and we're going
to continue to trade and we're going to open up
trade markets around the world. But if we're trying to
build F forty sevens, which we are in Saint Louis now,
is like the next gen fighter, we can't be relying
on other countries for critical minerals to build those things
from iPhones to fighter jebs. So he understands that uitively,
and he's actually using the tools necessary to bring those
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jobs home.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
People have no idea how important rare earth minerals are
towards our national defense. All right, quick break more with
Senator Eric Schmid of Missouri. He has a new book out,
by the way, it's called The Last Line of Defense.
We have it up on Hannity dot com. It's on
Amazon dot com, bookstores around the country. Eight hundred and
nine one. Shawn is a number. We'll get to your
calls coming up as well as we continue. We continue
(10:26):
now with Missouri. Senator Eric Schmid is with us. He's
got a new book out. It's called the last line
of defense. Don't forget. We'll be getting to your phone
calls after the bottom of the hour eight hundred and
nine four one Sean, what other idea. The President brought
it up in my interview in Alaska after the summit
with Putin, but he brought it up in the pool
spray yesterday, and that is that he wants Republicans to
(10:48):
get on the issue of voting integrity. For me, it's
it's a pretty simple formula. It's not really that complicated.
Paper ballots, voter ID, signature verification, paining to custody, and
cameras for any mail in votes, which I believe should
be limited to the military and people that are sick.
I think every state has to have updated voter roles
(11:09):
for every election. Partisan observers and every precinct in the country.
They watch the voting all day, the vote counting all night.
We get an answer at the end of the night
and a winner has chosen, and we have integrity in
the system. First, let me play the President saying it,
and then well, I'll ask you that question. I would
love to see election reform.
Speaker 7 (11:27):
We have to do it. I don't know why we're
not doing it. Bring it up. The Democrat idea want it. Look,
the Republicans want it, but not strongly enough. I mean
they gotta want us strong because it can't be it
can't be honest. It goes through a postman, it goes
through somebody else, somebody else, somebody. You know, when you
go to a really well run voting booth, you go in,
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you have to hand a card, a picture of this
or that.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
You don't have everything perfectly, you get.
Speaker 7 (11:54):
Sent back, go get it. It's really it's very hard
to do something for rigulent with a vote paper, valet,
mail in voting. It's they give you boxes of stuff.
You have no idea where they came from. This mail
in voting. You can't have a great democracy republic, you
can't have it. Well, maybe that's why we're going to
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end up with a communist mayor in New York.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Anyway, get your reaction to it, and my list, I
think is as comprehensive as we'd need. And I think
everybody can have confidence in the process and confidence in
the integrity and in terms of the results, and nobody's
going to be questioning elections. Democrats have questioned that Republicans
have questioned the outcomes. So I would think in the
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spirit of fair elections, you know, those measures would go
a long way to to instilling integrity in the system.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
Yes, and Sean, this used to not be a part
of an issue, which is kind of amazing. There was
something called the Carter Baker Commission about twenty years ago,
and it came out with a recommendation of ten things
you could do to secure our elections, and limiting mail
and balloting was one of them. There's a lot of
the voter ID is another one, and all these things
that for a long time were just sort of common sense.
But what President Trump's putting his finger on is something
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that's I think important to note is the left doesn't
believe in any of these things anymore. It's just about
power and control. And one of the things in the
Last Line of Defense, How to Beat the Left in Court,
which is available on Amazon right now. The book that
is launching today is we took this on in Missouri.
You know, Mark Elias came in twenty twenty for all
these election laws, including in Missouri. We fought back and
we won. But he wanted a few states like Georgia
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and in Pennsylvania and their voting laws were up ended,
and they used COVID as a reason. We can't ever
forget how dedicated the left is to upending America as
we know it. You know, I brought the Missouri versus
Biden lawsuit, the censorship lawsuit, taking the deposition of Elvis Chan,
the FBI agent that was pre bunking the Hunter Biden
laptop laptop story, taking the deposition of Anthony Fauchia. I
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wanted to write this book so people get an inside
glimpse of what this terrain really looks like. The left
is not only at the highest level of government trying
to censor speech, but also this kind of woke indoctrination
in our schools, and we have to have the courage
to stand up and fight back. President Trump, I think
has given Republicans one of the ways he's changed the party. Sean,
and I'm so happy about. Coming from a working class neighborhood,
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I know you feel the same way as the courage
to fight. I think for a long time we sort
of lamented how Democrats were and all the things that
they did. But now we have a leader who's stared
down the law there, He's stared down all the attacks.
He came back and sort comeback. He's winning, and that's
a good reason for us all to.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Continue to fight the last line of defense. That goes
into everything from censorship and the digital age, to opposition
to the vaccine and mask mandates, and fighting woke ideology
in school and border security, and separation of powers and
the abuse of activist justices on the courts and the
(14:52):
weaponization of government agencies our Second Amendment rights. Anyway, it's
called the Last line of Defense, Senator Eric Schmidt. We
appreciate your time. Congratulations on the book. It's on Amazon
dot com. We'll put a link on Hannity dot com,
and it's in bookstores around the country. Thank you.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
Thanks Sean Soon.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Eight hundred and nine four one showing is a number
if you want to be a part of the program.
Is kind of interesting if you if you really listen
to democrats and you pay very close attention. We learned
a couple of things about Barack Obama and David Axelrod
is that privately they are talking to and obviously supporting
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uh Coami or Marxist Mondani in New York City. Remember
when that moment Joe the Plumber, when Obama was running
for president. He talked about spreading the wealth around. You know,
Obama always held these radical views. We talked about the
Community Organizer. We talked about Acorn at the time. We
(15:50):
talked about the Chum Gang. We talked about Frank Marshall Davis.
We talked about Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dorn. We talked
about Reverend Wright. After nine to eleven. No, no, no,
not God, bless America, g d America. It's in the Bible,
blah blah blah, and that's who he always was. But
the difference between say Obama and Mom Donnie and the
(16:14):
modern Democratic Party and Obama. Obama I would argue and
always believed, you know, shared these views. But the political
environment at the time would not allow him to be
as honest as say a Mom Donnie in AOC A
Jasmine Crockett, of Bernie Sanders, a Pocahontas or squad member.
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It wouldn't allow him to do it. But I think
he really believed it. I think if he had the
opportunity to be more radical, he would have done it.
You know, the disaster of Obamacare, the one example, you
know that the one thing that he hangs his hat
on is is an utter disaster. I don't know why
people put their faith in government. All of you that
(16:58):
listened to this program, I am telling you, don't put
your faith, your hope, your trust in government anything. Just
don't do it. I mean, we need a strong military.
I would argue we do the military well, but we'll
probably not cost efficient in terms of Medicare, Medicaid, social Security.
They're going to have to come up with ways to
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save it. And I think the best way to do
that is grow the economy. And that's what President Trump
is in the process of doing. I think he's got
all of the building blocks put in place for a
boom economy, which would be great for every American, especially
as shifting economy with artificial intelligence and everything that President
Trump does. The left is against. I mean, they champion
(17:41):
the rights of men to play women's sports. That's a
ninety ten issue, but they're on the ten percent side.
They'll champion the likes of Abrego Garcia or the so
called rights of illegal immigrants over the safety and security
of American citizens. You know, many of whom have been
murdered and raped and victims of violent crime. They don't
(18:02):
seem to care that known terrorists are in the country,
gang members, cartel members, and all these other violent criminals,
and they complain about, oh, well, they're actually arresting people
that broke the law. This is outrageous. I can't believe it.
What about the treatment. Oh they're deporting people that didn't
respect our law's border sovereignty. It's just the radicalism now
(18:25):
is more exposed, and they're just more outspoken about it.
And I'm not sure why they, you know, after the
last election in particular, why they would double down on
policies that didn't resonate with the American people. But that's
what they're doing, and that is the state of the
Democratic Party. So when David Axelrod makes these comments they
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don't want Trump to succeed. He's not saying it outright,
he's just saying that. You know, world leaders now think
of how profound this is. Donald Trump is able to
accomplish that which nobody else was able to accomplish, and
that to get Vladimir Putin to the table, you know,
didn't work. Joe Biden calling Putin a murdering dictator thug, which,
(19:09):
by the way, I think he is putting that to
the side. Neither here nor there. The Joe Biden that
never picked up a phone as Putin's amassing troops and
military equipment on the border with Ukraine. The guy that
was Vice president when Obama did nothing when Crimea was annexed.
Remember it was the Democratic Party that and Bill Clinton
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that forced Ukraine or talked Ukraine. I don't know why
Ukraine ever did this. After the breakup of the former
Soviet Union, they had nineteen hundred or thereabouts nuclear weapons
and they were convinced to give them up with security
guarantees that were never fulfilled by anybody. And Russia never
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respected the agreements that were signed at the time in
terms of borders. And hence we find ourselves in this
situation a vulnerable Ukraine because they were stupid to give
up those nuclear weapons. They never should have. So Donald
Trump meets with Putin in Alaska on Friday. Has every
European leader and NATO leader that matters at the White
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House yesterday. And this is what David Axerod's comments are in.
Speaker 8 (20:17):
The world has learned, and Vladimir Putin above all has
learned that flattery is a very very effective tool with
this president, and all of them are tripping over each
other to do that. You know, Putin, who's a master manipulator,
I'm sure, is giving Trump the impression that they are
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special friends and he wants to be cooperative to help him.
That is not who Vladimir Putin is. Vladimir Putin is
everything that has been said. He's a killer and a thug,
and he is pursuing his own agenda, which is for
you know, this Russian expansionist agenda.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
It was under his friend Barack Hussein Obama when Crimea
was annexed. And what did Obama do? Nothing? I mean,
maybe maybe he's right. Maybe Putin is trying to flatter
Donald Trump. Doesn't matter. He showed up in Alaska and
the fact that no European country, no European leader, or
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no American president besides Trump could get him to the
table speaks volumes, or can get all these European leaders
and NATO leaders at the White House. Anyway, Let's get
to our busy telephones. Eight hundred nine four one show
is our number. If you want to be a part
of the program. Joe in New York, Joe, how are
you glad you called?
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yes?
Speaker 9 (21:40):
Hey, thank you Sean for taking my call. I really
I really appreciate it. So I just wanted to touch on
the Ukraine situation here, so you know my opinion, like
I get before, you know, was costing US money to
give weapons to Ukraine, and there was this whole narrative about, hey,
we don't want to be you know, spending money to
(22:02):
help another country and so forth. But right now, the
way it's set up is that basically, you know, they're
going to be buying weapons from the US. They're going
to basically you know, NATO's going to buy from the US.
It's going to go to uh, you know, to NATO,
and they're going to disperse it. So, you know, I
just think that if we're basically saying to Ukraine or
(22:27):
we're basically seeding or we're allowing Ukraine to see territory
to Russia, that's just from the perspective of America and
who we are as the people, I just think that's
pretty weak. I think what we should do is if
they're willing to fight, if they're willing to fight and
they're buying the weapons from US, then we should just
allow it to We should allow them to do that
(22:49):
and not basically put demands on them about you know
that they should, you know, see territory. You know, I
heard President Trump this morning say something about, uh, you
know Ukraine. You know, they're taking on a nation that's
ten times bigger than they are. And I look, in
my mind, I'm saying, well, we did during the Revolutionary
(23:11):
War when you had the British Empire. I mean maybe
the British Empire was like fifteen times bigger in terms
of the land area. So I don't know where these
ideas are coming from. It's just I just find it's
the wrong approach for me. We should just it's not
costing us anything. We should just let them find them out.
So you know this thing about oh, I.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Mean what you're saying is we should we should just
stand back, let the killing continue, not care at all
that it could lead to a wider conflict in Europe.
It's you know, look, at the end of the day,
we benefit the least. I will concede your point. We
benefit the least of any country that is involved in
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these discussions.
Speaker 9 (23:52):
Right now.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
However, America is taking the lead.
Speaker 9 (23:57):
You know.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
I look, I kind of agree with the Trump doctrine,
and the Trump doctrine I would define as this is
no forever wars. We're not going to fight a proxy
war like Biden was fighting with you with Russia by
providing hundreds of billions of dollars in military equipment that
you know, at our expense. He'll sell them the weapons
(24:19):
so that they can defend themselves against an invasion. I
think America, you know, has to be that shining city
on the hill and advance the cause of freedom when
at all possible, but without being the world's policeman. I
know it's selective at times, you know. I don't think
we'd lose a lot of capital if President Trump it
helps Armenian Azerbaijan, or Egypt in Ethiopia, or Iran in Israel,
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or you know, the Congo and Rwanda or any of
these other places where he's played a role, or Indian
Pakistan for example. So I don't think we're any worse
off for it. But I do believe that there is
a time and a place for military force, and it
doesn't in flicked with the idea of no forever wars.
And the President showed that in his first term by
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beating Isis and taking out Solomani and taking out bag
Daddy and associates and even dropping the mother of all
bombs on Afghanistan and in his second term knocking out
Around's nuclear sites. So you know, if you want them
to fight it out, okay, but if you have a
chance to stop the death and stop the conflict and
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maybe in the end actually even helped save Ukraine as
a country, because if it the longer this goes on,
I say the odds are greater that although you know,
if President Trump, if Ukraine is able to get enough
money through rarers to NATO and European countries, you know,
they could fight on for a long period of time.
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But then we are also it's like a cancer that
could spread throughout the continent of Europe. So I think
it's worth a shot, and I kind of support the
Trump doctrine in and what the President's doing. Let's see
how it plays out. If it doesn't work, then the
president plan B would be to punish Vladimir Putin economically.
Speaker 9 (26:05):
I guess those arguments are all valid and I get
all that, But at the bottom of this is, like
you said, President Trump signed the rare earth mineral deal, right,
so there's an incentive for Ukraine to become free. And
the other thing is freedom isn't free, whether we're talking
about the Revolutionary War, the American Revolutionary War, or World
(26:30):
War two, Like what did we do? We fought to
the end. Like, yes, there's lives, there's death, but there's
no Americans involved in this. You know, we're trying to
support you said, you know, America is the light on
the hill. Yeah, we all agree on that. So my
thing is, yes, death is bad, but my thing is
they're going.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
To fight it out.
Speaker 9 (26:49):
We're basically saying that, you know, America is like, we
don't have the capability to help them, and we're not
even they're not even we're not even paying anything for
it at this point. They just want to get to
their borders. We should allow them to do it. You know.
Basically President Trump today was saying, you know that you
(27:09):
know Ukraine, like, who would want? Who would want? You
know Ukraine a part of NATO that's bordering them. Well,
you know, I don't know what's going on in the
Senate and the Congress, but there's already four countries that
are part of NATO that are basically bordering Russia, Estonia, Latvia, Norway,
and Finland. I believe is even part of NATO. So
(27:29):
this whole notion about, hey, we you know, they don't
want Ukraine part of NATO. If Ukraine wants to be
free and they want to join, they want to join
the freedom loving people of the world. It shouldn't be
up to Russia to dictate to us what a free
a free country should be. I mean, we're not losing
anything here, like Trump did all the right steps. You know,
(27:52):
we're talking about Biden. You mentioned Obama about you know,
seeding the CRIMEA. Yes, I agree with that. But we
are where we are now, so you know, all good
points you're saying. I just think that they should be
allowed to fight for themselves the way we did during
our revolutionary.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Okay, but they're fighting for themselves and they're out of
point now where they're drafting sixty euros into their army
because they don't have enough people to fight. That's the reality.
So at some point you got to ask yourself, what
are you going to have left at the end of
this conflict. You know, the amount of rubble and wreckage
(28:30):
and death and dying has been and the cost has
been enormous. I'm not saying they at the end of
the day, they may end up fighting it out. But
if you can take a window of opportunity and at
least give it a shot, why not. We have nothing
to lose here, nothing, and the only thing we have
to gain is maybe lives can be saved and maybe
(28:52):
we prevent a broader conflict in Europe as a result
of the President's actions. That that I think is a
noble cause and a noble thing for America to do.
And it's it's it is in no way contradictory from
my perspective of the President's own doctrine. But I hear
what you're saying.
Speaker 9 (29:12):
I do.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
I think America has this unique role in the world
and if we can do good with you know, we've
accumulated more power, abused it less, and advanced the cause
of good more than any other country in history, and
I think we should continue that tradition without getting involved
in forever wars. So anyway, appreciate the call, my friend,
(29:37):
God bless you. Eight hundred and ninety four one, Shawn
is a number you want to be a part of
the program.
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