September 18, 2025 • 32 mins
Sean Hannity addresses the intense fallout from Jimmy Kimmel's indefinite suspension by ABC, framing it as an industry-wide reckoning for late night TV gone political. Joined by guests Carol Roth, bestselling author, and Mark Simone, top NYC radio host, Sean contrasts the past neutrality of hosts like Jay Leno and Johnny Carson with today's partisan climate. Roth and Simone highlight the hypocrisy of cancel culture and the consistent silence from the left when conservative voices are targeted, while noting Kimmel's ratings were already dismal. Hannity argues the free market rather than outrage mobs should decide careers, stressing real free speech means open debate, not selective outrage. Why does this matter? The discussion highlights how politicized entertainment is failing both viewers and broadcasters, and that a shift toward honest, inclusive media is urgently needed.
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four one Shawn our number. If you want to be
a part of the program, you know we're getting a
lot of reaction to Jimmy Kimmel in definite suspension. I
don't think he's coming back. I don't think he should
come back. It's it's very simple what happens in television.
And I went through in the last hour list of people,
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well known names that have been fired over the years
and people that have come and gone and then also
you know, move on to different you know, different platforms
and move on with their career. But it's very common
in the industry if you're a broadcaster, very common. Unfortunately,
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I didn't see anybody any outrage from the left when
Rose Embarga fired ABC, that was ABC Disney. I didn't
see any outrage. Bob Grant was a legendary talk show
host in New York and he got fired for controversial
remarks that he made after Ron Brown's plane, then Clinton's
Commerce Circuit secretary at the time he was fired. I
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didn't see anybody, you know, seem to care at all.
I mean, it's it's very simple. These these late night
comedy shows have fallen into a death trap for themselves,
and that is number one. They're not accomplishing their main mission,
which is to be funny. They're not and as a result,
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they have lost, you know, dramatic portions of their audience.
And when you lose your audience, then you lose revenue.
When you lose revenue, you're not valuable to the network
that you're working for. And at that point it becomes inevitable.
And I don't care if I've never seen Jimmy this
angry in his entire life. Jimmy celebrated when Tucker Carlson
got fired. So you know, let's stop the hypocrisy here.
(03:04):
And if he wanted to be a commentator political commentator,
there's places he can do it. You can do it
on Fake News C and NMSDNC, he can do it
on his own podcast. He will have opportunities to have
a broadcasting career or a career giving whatever commentary he wants.
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But that if you can't get a mass audience and
you know you're barely getting above a one share on
a broadcast channel, that is that you're not going to survive.
It's simple, one plus one equals two. Now, it's interesting.
After the firing of Colbert, Jay Leno spoke up and
this is what he said.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
There was an analysis done of your work on the
Tonight Show for the twenty two years and that your
jokes were roughly equally balanced between going after Republicans and
taking aim at Democrats.
Speaker 8 (03:56):
Well that's a strategy that Well, it's fun to me
when I hate letters some damns on you and your
Republican friends, who well miss and I hope you and
your Democratic buddies are happy over the same joke. And
I go, well, that's good.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
So that's how you get a whole audience.
Speaker 8 (04:10):
Now you have to be content with half the audience
because you have to give your opinion.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Well, and it's worth noting that both you and Roddie
Dingerfield experienced and have been experiencing enormous success.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Right, so your approach worked in the marketplace.
Speaker 8 (04:23):
Well why shoot for just half an audience all the time?
You know, why not try to get the whole? I mean,
I like to bring people into the big picture. I
don't understand why you would alienate one particular group, you know,
or just don't do it at all. I'm not saying
you have to throw your support or whatever, but just
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do what's funny.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
Just do what's funny. If it's a late nine comedy show. Now,
if you want to do a political commentary, show or
a news show with political opinion like I do. And
you're honest about it.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
It's a very.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
Different it's a very different venue of very different me medium.
And you know, here's what Johnny Carson said to Mike
Wallace back in the day on sixty Minutes about this
very same issue.
Speaker 9 (05:07):
Ex sensitive about the fact that people say he'll never
take a serious controversy. Well, I have an answer to that.
I said, no, tell me the last time that Jack
Benny red Skelton uh Benny comedian use his.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Show to do serious issues.
Speaker 10 (05:24):
That's not what I'm there for.
Speaker 11 (05:25):
Can't they see that?
Speaker 5 (05:27):
But you and I do.
Speaker 9 (05:28):
They think that just because you have it tonight's show,
that you must deal in serious issues.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
It's a danger, it's a real danger.
Speaker 9 (05:35):
Once you start that, you start to forget that self
important feeling that what you say has great import And
you know, strangely enough, you could use that show as
a form you could sway people. And I don't think
you should as an entertainer.
Speaker 6 (05:47):
I don't think you should as an entertainer. You know,
over the years, this show has been targeted and targeted
repeatedly headline the rap when was this twenty seventeen, Fox
News should fire Sean Hannah Media matters head says uniquely destructive?
Another article, will Fox News fires Sean Hannity a naive
(06:09):
and hopeful analysis. These are Sean Hannity's leading advertisers. You know,
when when my personal text messages were released and they
were thousands of them on two separate occasions, nobody cared
about Sean Hannity's privacy. And I'm not complaining. I'm not
complaining at all. I understand the political environment al Sharpton
(06:30):
to a FCC take racist Rush Limbaugh off the air.
It goes on left wing coming after Rush Limbaugh trying
to take him off the air, and it's politics Nation,
Should Rush Limbaugh be on the air? Rose and Barr.
I mean, you can go, you can go through the list,
(06:50):
Dave Chappelle, it was people like Jimmy Kimmel's celebrating Tucker
Carlson when he when he was taking off the air
at Fox. And you know, and then the list goes
on and on, and you don't have to agree with
people you don't even have. The thing is about all
of this, and this is what Brendan Carr was saying
last night broadcast networks have a license and they have
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to act in the public interest. That that's how you
get a broadcast license. You don't have to work for
any of the broadcast channels. There are more outlets, more
opportunities to be heard than ever before in the history
of this country. If you wanted to start your own podcast,
start your own podcast. If you can develop an audience,
then develop an audience. If Jimmy Kimmel wants to do,
(07:38):
I'm not celebrating. I've never on this program, never on TV,
not one time ever called for anybody's firing, anybody's cancelation,
never call for any boycotting. Nobody ever seemed to care
on the left when it happened to me, the only
when it was I was boycotted. One time, I was
blown away. Carric Hads pulled off my show and made
(08:01):
a big deal about it the coffee Machine, and out
of nowhere, people just started, you know, dropping their carrig machines,
you know, from the third story apartments and shooting carrag
machines and hitting them with baseball bats and golf clubs.
And it went viral and in the end they came
(08:22):
back on the show. But I couldn't believe the amount
of support I got from people, you know, organically it
happened anyway. Joining us to weigh in on all of this,
Carol Roth, two time New York Times bestselling author You
Will Own Nothing, and a recovering investment banker. Our friend
Mark Simone, host of the number one morning show in
New York City on our affiliate there, the All New
(08:46):
Am seven to ten wo R. Carol Roth will start
with you. Your reaction to all of this.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Yeah, I mean giving everybody a mic and saying, hey,
we should hear everybody's political opinion was a really, really
bad idea, Sean, And unfortunately that's really what enabled the
shift from what was entertainment with Johnny Carson, as you
put forth in Jay Leno, to these want to be commentators, which,
(09:17):
as you mentioned, there are plenty of outlets to do that,
but that's not what they're charged with doing. They're actually
supposed to be giving people a respite from all of
the news and information that's coming at them from other
outlets that specialize in that. But it is very frustrating,
as somebody who has also been the target of cancel culture,
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to now see people pretending to be free speech absolutists.
So you know, we must stand up, we must stand
up for Jimmy Kimmel. Well, you guys were the first ones,
like you said, to call for the firing of everyone
else you don't believe in individual rights. You were the
first people to you know, all people out for not
(10:01):
taking COVID vaccines and the like. So why, all of
a sudden, just because somebody who is on their side,
who by the way, you know, took the absolute gruesome
killing of a father in front of children, and instead
of just saying something nice and trying to turn down
the divisiveness, decided to go in another direction. You know, why,
(10:25):
all of a sudden is that more important than the
fact that somebody, a young man, a young father, got
killed in front of his children.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
And Mark, we saw this years ago.
Speaker 6 (10:36):
I mentioned Bob Grant in New York when when Ron
Brown's plane went down and apparently there had been a
report that there was one survivor. I know it's him
a I know it's after all, I am a pessimist.
ABC Disney came in in all similar circumstances, you know,
(10:56):
in sensitive comments after somebody dead or likely dead, and
he was fired immediately by ABC Disney. We have Roseanne
barbiing fired by ABC Disney. This is not new.
Speaker 7 (11:07):
Yeah, there's also another example of go woke, go broke.
You know, Jimmy Kimmel years ago was actually funny. I
remember The Man Show and all those things. He did
not politically correct, but it was funny back then. And
then I know this was something ABC was looking to do. Anyway,
get rid of him. It's a low rated show. This
show that I'm on right now has what sixteen times
(11:29):
the size of an audience. It was a low rated show,
Jimmy Kimmel. It was losing money if you.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
Are underestimating the size of this audience. But I'll forgive
you because we've been friends for so many years.
Speaker 7 (11:40):
Nineteen but whatever.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
I don't know the exact extrapolation.
Speaker 7 (11:45):
But they I know this started Monday. They wanted him
to apologize, walk it back. He had two days to
walk it back, and apparently he refused to apologize. He
said he would explain it that it was taken out
of context, which is absolutely I had to watch MSNBC
for a few minutes last night. I knew it'd be hysterical,
and it was. They were going on. This is the
(12:07):
end of our democracy. Listen. We survived the cancelation of
Gilligan's Island Threes Company two and a half. Men, we'll
get through this. The country will survive this. You know
what's going to happen. They'll start running reruns of an
Old'll put on Law and Order reruns or suits or
something in that time period, and it will get triple
to quadruple the ratings, and that'll share what people think
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of Jimmy Kimmel.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Quick, Frank Cool come back.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
We'll continue more with Carol rothmore with Mark Simon on
the other side, and then we'll get to your phone
calls coming up eight hundred and ninety four to one,
Sean if you want to be a part of the program.
All right, we continue now talking about the firing of well,
the indefinite suspension of Jimmy Kimmel. I doubt he's coming
back to ABC. We continue with Carol Roth and Mark Simone.
I saw that rose am bar Barack Obama put out.
(12:53):
After years of complaining about canceled culture, the current administration
has taking it is taking it to a new and
dangerous level by routinely threatening regulatory action against media companies
unless they muzzle or fire reporters or commentators they don't like.
Now the president is not shy and saying that this
person or that person should be fired hasn't taken any action.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Is not one person that.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
I can think of, Carol, not one prominent conservative voice
that has been out there demanding calling for the firing,
boycotting of Jimmy Kimmel, something we conservators have lived with
for decades.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
No, you're absolutely right, because it's not the way of
the right. The way of the right, you know, as
is shown broadly by the reaction here, is shown by
the you know, Charlie Kirks example is to debate people,
to put different ideas out there, and to show in
a free market what ideas work and what don't. And
(13:55):
you know, unfortunately, I think Mark made a really good
point that the free market was saying that these ideas
put out by Jimmy Kimmel just weren't that popular. And
we saw that, you know, in his numbers and his ratings.
So there's probably, you know, a catalyst behind this decision,
But there is a stark contrast. I mean, think about this.
After Charlie's assassination, nobody needed to board up their windows.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
There was no.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Fear that cities were going to be burned down, because
that's not the road of people who believe in individual rights.
So now all of a sudden that something's happening to
someone that they think is the mouthpiece for their propaganda
to pretend that they, you know, have always believed this.
We have the evidence time and time again, and you
(14:43):
can't tell us, you know what it is that we've seen.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
You know.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
I just find it amusing that the left is melting
down over this. Here's the good news for Jimmy Kimmel.
Not that I like him, and I'm not celebrating the
way he celebrated Tucker cross demise, but the good news
for him, Mark Simona, is he's going to play opportunities
if he wants his voice heard.
Speaker 7 (15:08):
Yeah, I keep talking about free speech. He's got it.
He can speak all he wants, and this time it's
for free So there's your free speech. It's perfect. So
when Tucker before Tucker was trying to remember, Chuck Schumer
held a press conference demanding that he'd be fired, sort
of a threatening press conference to Fox and that they
had to fire him. So again it's the hypocrisy. Democrats
(15:29):
are famous for Jimmy Kimmel. You know that Carson Cliff
that you played. Should listen to that over and over again.
I watched Johnny Carson for years and Jay Leno for years.
I still can't tell you where they stood politically. And
I knew Johnny Carson, I know Jay Leno. I still
can't tell you where they stand politically. And they were
much much funnier and a thousand times more successful. There's
(15:51):
a big lesson there for broadcasters.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
Yeah, I think a great lesson anyway. Mark Simon, thank you,
Carol Rath, thank you. I appreciate both of you. Thanks
so much for being with us.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Good sun.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
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All right, let's get to our busy phones. Zach is
in Missouri. Hey, Zach, how are you? Thank you for calling?
Glad you're with us.
Speaker 11 (17:55):
Thank you, Sean.
Speaker 10 (17:56):
It's quite an honor to call from me. I've been here.
I've been here your show for a long time. Dad,
My dad's a big fan of yours. Heck I remember
back in twenty twelve when you had your intro of
let freedom, brain let the white of Singing. Heck I
remember that intro.
Speaker 9 (18:15):
I do.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Martina McBride loved it. It was the good old days.
Speaker 6 (18:20):
It's so hard to play music now on this radio show.
I actually have cover bands that we used to make
our music because the amount of money that these music
companies will charge you if you play thirty seconds of
a song is insane.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
It would be it would make this show.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
I we'd have to cancel me because we wouldn't be
in the red, we wouldn't make any money. They're charging
so much just to just to run thirty seconds of
a song. You'd think they would want heard on seven
hundred and fifty stations.
Speaker 10 (18:55):
That's that's crazy. I didn't that that's crazy to.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Know, it is insane. Anyway, what's on your mind today, my.
Speaker 10 (19:01):
Friend, Well, thoughts and prayers on Charlie Kirk and his family.
You know, been thinking about him a lot, you know,
it's very tough times.
Speaker 7 (19:12):
Also.
Speaker 10 (19:12):
Second of all, you know the radicalization the left. You know,
twenty years ago they weren't they weren't really this radical.
I mean, like what what made him like go far left?
I mean, like this isn't like the Democrat Party of
twenty years ago. It's like it's like mind blowing. It's
like they hate the country and like, you know, why
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represent part that I don't get is why would you
want to represent a country that you hate? You know,
It's just it's mind blowing to me.
Speaker 6 (19:42):
Uh, I don't know, I I it just is it's
been such a hard two weeks emotionally for all of
us that have hearts and a conscience and us Aul
and I don't care if you agreed or disagreed with
Charlie Kirk. I mean, why would you say anything you
know so evil and horrific as some of the examples
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we've been playing and showing you And I don't know
it just it kind of wears me out. It's like
I can't explain something that's not explained a bowl, If
that makes sense. It's it just is. But you know,
there's always going to be dark, evil people around us.
We need to understand that, embrace that, and protect ourselves
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against it. It's it is what it is. But we
can't cower in the face of evil.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
We just can't.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
You know, I think Donald Trump showed that to us
in Butler, Pennsylvania. You know who else would would get
shot and come within a millimeter of losing their life
and having their head blown off and stand up and
go fight, fight, fight. I can't think of many people
that would pull that off. Zach, appreciate you, man, God
bless you. Eight hundred and nine four one, Shawn our number.
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Jerry in Florida, my free state. Up, Jerry, how are you, sir?
Speaker 10 (21:02):
Hi there?
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Sean?
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Hey, I'm kind of wondering why all these leftists and
whatnot all pissed up about Jimmy Kimmel. Where were they
when Suzanne Bar got canceled for telling a joke or.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
You mean Rose Ambar?
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Yeah, oh Roseannbar excuse me, it was actually in her
case it was a tweet.
Speaker 10 (21:21):
Is that right, okay?
Speaker 6 (21:22):
And she and she pointed out today after Barack Obama,
you know, said, you know, started complaining about, you know,
quote cancel culture, the current administration has taken cancel culture
to a new and dangerous level. Donald Trump's not responsible
for Jimmy Kimmel being fired.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
He's not exactly.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
And you know, and Jimmy Kimmel, he relished in the
idea that Tucker Carlson got fired from Fox News for
saying things that uh, you know, the corporate elites at
that point apparently weren't in love with But he didn't
say anything in Centerary or anything like that that would cause,
(22:02):
you know, such a backlash and definitely didn't deserve a
bullet to the throat. But you know, it's it's amazing
how they complain about somebody losing their job, but they're
they're they're celebrating somebody losing their life, you know. And
so it's I mean, the hypocrisy is abundant, you know,
(22:24):
But but you know, there was there was one.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
Listen, Jimmy Kimmel. You'll hear from Jimmy Kimmel again. And
I think you're gonna hear from a very angry Jimmy Kimmel,
and he'll go on a platform where he will be
even more vitriolic and more hateful, and I think he'll
chase more people away in the process. I don't think
he's going to learn the lesson that he has alienated
so many people. Look, if you're ratings, you know, started
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a two share and it goes all the way down
on a one one one, whatever is his final share was.
I haven't looked at his ratings in a while, but
they were garbage. And then at some point there's got
to be a little introspection and self reflection and of
course correction otherwise. And you you know, one of the
things that I've often like to do in my life
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and career is, you know, read research about me. There
there are companies their entire job is they will research
on air talent, and you know, they they verbatims of
my audience, are brutally honest, and they will tell me
what they like and what they don't like. And when
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I see a pattern of criticism, I take it seriously
and I try to make adjustments.
Speaker 11 (23:39):
Well can I can I? Can? I?
Speaker 3 (23:43):
I hope I'm not stepping over the bounds but here's
something really I would really enjoy seeing if you can
make happen on going to your corporate leaders at Fox
News and convinced all twelve, all twenty four hours of
the day that during there's a segment on there that
there's going to be a contest for people to develop
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sending in leads for the clips of Charlie Kirk actually
saying anything racist, fascist or nazi like or whatnot like that,
and have them put it together and promise that you
guys will make a montage of it and dedicate an
entire show showing people you know what a racist, fascist,
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nazi that Charlie Kirk ever was, which will be an
empty show. So what you could then show is actually,
you know, all the rioting and everything that happened during
twenty twenty, but offer him a carrot and the benefit
of that, you'd have all these liberals who would be
dying to be able to win this, say ten thousand
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or twenty thousand dollars or whatever like that for winning
this contest, and they would actually have to go online
and actually listen to him, because most of them only
say that he the racist and he's a fascist, and
they've never listened to a word he said, and it
might actually change some minds.
Speaker 6 (25:07):
And I think the beauty of what Charlie would do
is prove me wrong. When he would go on college
campuses in a hostile environment and if you'd get called
all those names, he'd say, Okay, can you give me
one example you're a fascist? You're a racist? Year this
year that can you give me one example you're a fascist?
Can you give me one example you're a fascist? I mean,
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that's how the conversation went every single time. It was
actually it was funny, and he would do it with
a smile on his face. The answer to the question
is you're right, you answered your own question. It would
there'd be no content to that hour. But that's a good,
good funny idea. I like it anyway, Jerry, appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (25:47):
Man.
Speaker 6 (25:47):
Glad you're out there. Eight hundred ninety four one Sean.
Our number. Let's get back to our busy phones. Eight
hundred and ninety four one Sean. If you want to
be a part of the program. Aaron is in Pennsylvania
on the Sean Hannity Show. Aaron, how are you glad
you called sir by the way, I'm sorry for the
people in Pennsylvania. I know these cops were shot in
your county and our prayers are with them and their families.
Speaker 11 (26:09):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
Sean was actually in New York yesterday when it was happening,
but I lived near Pennsylvania.
Speaker 11 (26:13):
So yeah, thank you for for the.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
Prayers, and Sean, thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 11 (26:18):
I pray that God continues to bless you and protect you.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
When God blesses you, you can bless us, and you keep
up the great work and keep going the reason I
was calling.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
I know you received some push back from callers. You're
darting college students, playing the game, going along to get
the grade, and I agree with you completely on that one. Now,
unless the person is being required to denounce Jesus christis
as I say, you're obviously you're not going to do that.
Speaker 11 (26:49):
But got to look at the big picture.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
When someone has dominion over you, like the college professor,
that's probably not the right time to do battle with
them and sacrifice your grade. Retaking the class might not
be an option for financially. Might be the only professor
that does it, that teaches the class.
Speaker 11 (27:04):
So what are you going to do?
Speaker 5 (27:04):
Go through the cost gain with the same professor that's
making you, that's going to.
Speaker 11 (27:08):
Impose these radical views on you. But so look at
the big picture and look at look ahead. When can
I have a platform?
Speaker 5 (27:14):
So it means I go along, get my grade, get
my diploma, then become a high school teacher or a
college professor, maybe at the same university. There is my platform.
That's why I can make a bigger influence on young
people with the truth and conservative values. Or if you
work hard enough and you're in a physician financially, you
can support a turning point in USA chapter at a
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college financially or programs are more conservatively based. So God
to look at the big picture, not not to battle
just because someone is going to someone's challenging you.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
Well, I have very specific circumstances in which I'd make
this exception, knowing how hard and competitive it is to
get into medical school, law school, graduate schools for particular,
you know, field of endeavor, some of the top schools.
You want to go to the top school, and let's
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say you have a perfect A you know, four point
zero average, You have to take tests, et cetera, and
then you have one professor that you know is so
abusively biased and bigoted against conservatives, and you know that
maybe maybe God made you to be a doctor and
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that is what you've always wanted to do. I've always
found that people are doctors and nurses and teachers and policemen,
environment et cetera, almost without exception. They're called to do it,
they wanted to do it since they were young, and
you know that, Okay, that's going to put you at
a competitive disadvantage if you get a bad grade because
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you're challenging a teacher. I don't see any I'm not
going to tell those students to stand up and fight
those professors that will punish them if they speak up.
As long as they know that it's an indoctrination, as
long as they do it consciously, and they do it
because they have a much bigger goal in dream and
purpose in their life, I won't criticize them.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
I won't now.
Speaker 6 (29:13):
I had the same experience in college, and I took
on a Marxist communist professor by his own admission. Years later,
I ended up having him on Hannity and Holmes, and
he remembered me, I'm not surprised because we took over
the whole class for the second part of that semester,
and he ended up punishing me with the worst grade
I ever got in college, which was a C plus
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and i'd aced the It was a midterm and final class,
and i'd aced the midterm, and at that point then
I started speaking up. I must have got en F
on the final or close to it. So yeah, he
punished me for that, but it was but I was
not in a position that I needed to worry about it.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
I really wasn't.
Speaker 6 (29:57):
So you know, my argument to these kids is I
support whatever, you know, whatever dream that God put in
your heart that you want to follow, and I don't
think you're selling out your principles if you make the decision.
You know what, I'm not going to hurt my chances
of getting into med school or graduate school or nursing
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school or whatever it happens to be. I think that's
a lot to put on a kid, and I think
it's just unfair that they're in an environment that does
not foster real, genuine dialogue, debate, and a free and
open exchange of ideas. I mean, that's the beauty of
what Charlie was doing, is he was doing what the
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schools the indoctrination centers that we call universities were supposed
to do fostering debate, civil debate, and he did it civilly.
I mean the people that weren't civil with the left.
I'll give you the last word.
Speaker 5 (30:53):
Shown you're absolutely right again. You have to look at
the big picture, forward thinking, say where can make Where
can I make the biggest impact? Going head to head
with it with the college professor, You're not going to
make a big impact. They're going to push you back
down and then you mess up the course, potentially mess
up the course for the rest of your career. Look
at the big picture, where where can I make the
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bigger impact? And the bigger impact will be teaching a
college or a high school course, becoming a doctor or
lawyers or the mother financially a successful career path that
you can make make the influence elsewhere financially supporting Turning
Point USA chapters or other conservative programs. So Sean, thank
you so much for taking my call. You're doing an
awesome job keeping up. We'll keep the prayers going for
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our country and for our leaders.
Speaker 6 (31:38):
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four one Shawn our number. If you want to be
a part of the program, you know we're getting a
lot of reaction to Jimmy Kimmel in definite suspension. I
don't think he's coming back. I don't think he should
come back. It's it's very simple what happens in television.
And I went through in the last hour list of people,
(01:34):
well known names that have been fired over the years
and people that have come and gone and then also
you know, move on to different you know, different platforms
and move on with their career. But it's very common
in the industry if you're a broadcaster, very common. Unfortunately,
(01:56):
I didn't see anybody any outrage from the left when
Rose Embarga fired ABC, that was ABC Disney. I didn't
see any outrage. Bob Grant was a legendary talk show
host in New York and he got fired for controversial
remarks that he made after Ron Brown's plane, then Clinton's
Commerce Circuit secretary at the time he was fired. I
(02:18):
didn't see anybody, you know, seem to care at all.
I mean, it's it's very simple. These these late night
comedy shows have fallen into a death trap for themselves,
and that is number one. They're not accomplishing their main mission,
which is to be funny. They're not and as a result,
(02:39):
they have lost, you know, dramatic portions of their audience.
And when you lose your audience, then you lose revenue.
When you lose revenue, you're not valuable to the network
that you're working for. And at that point it becomes inevitable.
And I don't care if I've never seen Jimmy this
angry in his entire life. Jimmy celebrated when Tucker Carlson
got fired. So you know, let's stop the hypocrisy here.
(03:04):
And if he wanted to be a commentator political commentator,
there's places he can do it. You can do it
on Fake News C and NMSDNC, he can do it
on his own podcast. He will have opportunities to have
a broadcasting career or a career giving whatever commentary he wants.
(03:25):
But that if you can't get a mass audience and
you know you're barely getting above a one share on
a broadcast channel, that is that you're not going to survive.
It's simple, one plus one equals two. Now, it's interesting.
After the firing of Colbert, Jay Leno spoke up and
this is what he said.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
There was an analysis done of your work on the
Tonight Show for the twenty two years and that your
jokes were roughly equally balanced between going after Republicans and
taking aim at Democrats.
Speaker 8 (03:56):
Well that's a strategy that Well, it's fun to me
when I hate letters some damns on you and your
Republican friends, who well miss and I hope you and
your Democratic buddies are happy over the same joke. And
I go, well, that's good.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
So that's how you get a whole audience.
Speaker 8 (04:10):
Now you have to be content with half the audience
because you have to give your opinion.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Well, and it's worth noting that both you and Roddie
Dingerfield experienced and have been experiencing enormous success.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Right, so your approach worked in the marketplace.
Speaker 8 (04:23):
Well why shoot for just half an audience all the time?
You know, why not try to get the whole? I mean,
I like to bring people into the big picture. I
don't understand why you would alienate one particular group, you know,
or just don't do it at all. I'm not saying
you have to throw your support or whatever, but just
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do what's funny.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
Just do what's funny. If it's a late nine comedy show. Now,
if you want to do a political commentary, show or
a news show with political opinion like I do. And
you're honest about it.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
It's a very.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
Different it's a very different venue of very different me medium.
And you know, here's what Johnny Carson said to Mike
Wallace back in the day on sixty Minutes about this
very same issue.
Speaker 9 (05:07):
Ex sensitive about the fact that people say he'll never
take a serious controversy. Well, I have an answer to that.
I said, no, tell me the last time that Jack
Benny red Skelton uh Benny comedian use his.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Show to do serious issues.
Speaker 10 (05:24):
That's not what I'm there for.
Speaker 11 (05:25):
Can't they see that?
Speaker 5 (05:27):
But you and I do.
Speaker 9 (05:28):
They think that just because you have it tonight's show,
that you must deal in serious issues.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
It's a danger, it's a real danger.
Speaker 9 (05:35):
Once you start that, you start to forget that self
important feeling that what you say has great import And
you know, strangely enough, you could use that show as
a form you could sway people. And I don't think
you should as an entertainer.
Speaker 6 (05:47):
I don't think you should as an entertainer. You know,
over the years, this show has been targeted and targeted
repeatedly headline the rap when was this twenty seventeen, Fox
News should fire Sean Hannah Media matters head says uniquely destructive?
Another article, will Fox News fires Sean Hannity a naive
(06:09):
and hopeful analysis. These are Sean Hannity's leading advertisers. You know,
when when my personal text messages were released and they
were thousands of them on two separate occasions, nobody cared
about Sean Hannity's privacy. And I'm not complaining. I'm not
complaining at all. I understand the political environment al Sharpton
(06:30):
to a FCC take racist Rush Limbaugh off the air.
It goes on left wing coming after Rush Limbaugh trying
to take him off the air, and it's politics Nation,
Should Rush Limbaugh be on the air? Rose and Barr.
I mean, you can go, you can go through the list,
(06:50):
Dave Chappelle, it was people like Jimmy Kimmel's celebrating Tucker
Carlson when he when he was taking off the air
at Fox. And you know, and then the list goes
on and on, and you don't have to agree with
people you don't even have. The thing is about all
of this, and this is what Brendan Carr was saying
last night broadcast networks have a license and they have
(07:14):
to act in the public interest. That that's how you
get a broadcast license. You don't have to work for
any of the broadcast channels. There are more outlets, more
opportunities to be heard than ever before in the history
of this country. If you wanted to start your own podcast,
start your own podcast. If you can develop an audience,
then develop an audience. If Jimmy Kimmel wants to do,
(07:38):
I'm not celebrating. I've never on this program, never on TV,
not one time ever called for anybody's firing, anybody's cancelation,
never call for any boycotting. Nobody ever seemed to care
on the left when it happened to me, the only
when it was I was boycotted. One time, I was
blown away. Carric Hads pulled off my show and made
(08:01):
a big deal about it the coffee Machine, and out
of nowhere, people just started, you know, dropping their carrig machines,
you know, from the third story apartments and shooting carrag
machines and hitting them with baseball bats and golf clubs.
And it went viral and in the end they came
(08:22):
back on the show. But I couldn't believe the amount
of support I got from people, you know, organically it
happened anyway. Joining us to weigh in on all of this,
Carol Roth, two time New York Times bestselling author You
Will Own Nothing, and a recovering investment banker. Our friend
Mark Simone, host of the number one morning show in
New York City on our affiliate there, the All New
(08:46):
Am seven to ten wo R. Carol Roth will start
with you. Your reaction to all of this.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Yeah, I mean giving everybody a mic and saying, hey,
we should hear everybody's political opinion was a really, really
bad idea, Sean, And unfortunately that's really what enabled the
shift from what was entertainment with Johnny Carson, as you
put forth in Jay Leno, to these want to be commentators, which,
(09:17):
as you mentioned, there are plenty of outlets to do that,
but that's not what they're charged with doing. They're actually
supposed to be giving people a respite from all of
the news and information that's coming at them from other
outlets that specialize in that. But it is very frustrating,
as somebody who has also been the target of cancel culture,
(09:39):
to now see people pretending to be free speech absolutists.
So you know, we must stand up, we must stand
up for Jimmy Kimmel. Well, you guys were the first ones,
like you said, to call for the firing of everyone
else you don't believe in individual rights. You were the
first people to you know, all people out for not
(10:01):
taking COVID vaccines and the like. So why, all of
a sudden, just because somebody who is on their side,
who by the way, you know, took the absolute gruesome
killing of a father in front of children, and instead
of just saying something nice and trying to turn down
the divisiveness, decided to go in another direction. You know, why,
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all of a sudden is that more important than the
fact that somebody, a young man, a young father, got
killed in front of his children.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
And Mark, we saw this years ago.
Speaker 6 (10:36):
I mentioned Bob Grant in New York when when Ron
Brown's plane went down and apparently there had been a
report that there was one survivor. I know it's him
a I know it's after all, I am a pessimist.
ABC Disney came in in all similar circumstances, you know,
(10:56):
in sensitive comments after somebody dead or likely dead, and
he was fired immediately by ABC Disney. We have Roseanne
barbiing fired by ABC Disney. This is not new.
Speaker 7 (11:07):
Yeah, there's also another example of go woke, go broke.
You know, Jimmy Kimmel years ago was actually funny. I
remember The Man Show and all those things. He did
not politically correct, but it was funny back then. And
then I know this was something ABC was looking to do. Anyway,
get rid of him. It's a low rated show. This
show that I'm on right now has what sixteen times
(11:29):
the size of an audience. It was a low rated show,
Jimmy Kimmel. It was losing money if you.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
Are underestimating the size of this audience. But I'll forgive
you because we've been friends for so many years.
Speaker 7 (11:40):
Nineteen but whatever.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
I don't know the exact extrapolation.
Speaker 7 (11:45):
But they I know this started Monday. They wanted him
to apologize, walk it back. He had two days to
walk it back, and apparently he refused to apologize. He
said he would explain it that it was taken out
of context, which is absolutely I had to watch MSNBC
for a few minutes last night. I knew it'd be hysterical,
and it was. They were going on. This is the
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end of our democracy. Listen. We survived the cancelation of
Gilligan's Island Threes Company two and a half. Men, we'll
get through this. The country will survive this. You know
what's going to happen. They'll start running reruns of an
Old'll put on Law and Order reruns or suits or
something in that time period, and it will get triple
to quadruple the ratings, and that'll share what people think
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of Jimmy Kimmel.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Quick, Frank Cool come back.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
We'll continue more with Carol rothmore with Mark Simon on
the other side, and then we'll get to your phone
calls coming up eight hundred and ninety four to one,
Sean if you want to be a part of the program.
All right, we continue now talking about the firing of well,
the indefinite suspension of Jimmy Kimmel. I doubt he's coming
back to ABC. We continue with Carol Roth and Mark Simone.
I saw that rose am bar Barack Obama put out.
(12:53):
After years of complaining about canceled culture, the current administration
has taking it is taking it to a new and
dangerous level by routinely threatening regulatory action against media companies
unless they muzzle or fire reporters or commentators they don't like.
Now the president is not shy and saying that this
person or that person should be fired hasn't taken any action.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Is not one person that.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
I can think of, Carol, not one prominent conservative voice
that has been out there demanding calling for the firing,
boycotting of Jimmy Kimmel, something we conservators have lived with
for decades.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
No, you're absolutely right, because it's not the way of
the right. The way of the right, you know, as
is shown broadly by the reaction here, is shown by
the you know, Charlie Kirks example is to debate people,
to put different ideas out there, and to show in
a free market what ideas work and what don't. And
(13:55):
you know, unfortunately, I think Mark made a really good
point that the free market was saying that these ideas
put out by Jimmy Kimmel just weren't that popular. And
we saw that, you know, in his numbers and his ratings.
So there's probably, you know, a catalyst behind this decision,
But there is a stark contrast. I mean, think about this.
After Charlie's assassination, nobody needed to board up their windows.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
There was no.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Fear that cities were going to be burned down, because
that's not the road of people who believe in individual rights.
So now all of a sudden that something's happening to
someone that they think is the mouthpiece for their propaganda
to pretend that they, you know, have always believed this.
We have the evidence time and time again, and you
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can't tell us, you know what it is that we've seen.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
You know.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
I just find it amusing that the left is melting
down over this. Here's the good news for Jimmy Kimmel.
Not that I like him, and I'm not celebrating the
way he celebrated Tucker cross demise, but the good news
for him, Mark Simona, is he's going to play opportunities
if he wants his voice heard.
Speaker 7 (15:08):
Yeah, I keep talking about free speech. He's got it.
He can speak all he wants, and this time it's
for free So there's your free speech. It's perfect. So
when Tucker before Tucker was trying to remember, Chuck Schumer
held a press conference demanding that he'd be fired, sort
of a threatening press conference to Fox and that they
had to fire him. So again it's the hypocrisy. Democrats
(15:29):
are famous for Jimmy Kimmel. You know that Carson Cliff
that you played. Should listen to that over and over again.
I watched Johnny Carson for years and Jay Leno for years.
I still can't tell you where they stood politically. And
I knew Johnny Carson, I know Jay Leno. I still
can't tell you where they stand politically. And they were
much much funnier and a thousand times more successful. There's
(15:51):
a big lesson there for broadcasters.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
Yeah, I think a great lesson anyway. Mark Simon, thank you,
Carol Rath, thank you. I appreciate both of you. Thanks
so much for being with us.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Good sun.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
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All right, let's get to our busy phones. Zach is
in Missouri. Hey, Zach, how are you? Thank you for calling?
Glad you're with us.
Speaker 11 (17:55):
Thank you, Sean.
Speaker 10 (17:56):
It's quite an honor to call from me. I've been here.
I've been here your show for a long time. Dad,
My dad's a big fan of yours. Heck I remember
back in twenty twelve when you had your intro of
let freedom, brain let the white of Singing. Heck I
remember that intro.
Speaker 9 (18:15):
I do.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Martina McBride loved it. It was the good old days.
Speaker 6 (18:20):
It's so hard to play music now on this radio show.
I actually have cover bands that we used to make
our music because the amount of money that these music
companies will charge you if you play thirty seconds of
a song is insane.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
It would be it would make this show.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
I we'd have to cancel me because we wouldn't be
in the red, we wouldn't make any money. They're charging
so much just to just to run thirty seconds of
a song. You'd think they would want heard on seven
hundred and fifty stations.
Speaker 10 (18:55):
That's that's crazy. I didn't that that's crazy to.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Know, it is insane. Anyway, what's on your mind today, my.
Speaker 10 (19:01):
Friend, Well, thoughts and prayers on Charlie Kirk and his family.
You know, been thinking about him a lot, you know,
it's very tough times.
Speaker 7 (19:12):
Also.
Speaker 10 (19:12):
Second of all, you know the radicalization the left. You know,
twenty years ago they weren't they weren't really this radical.
I mean, like what what made him like go far left?
I mean, like this isn't like the Democrat Party of
twenty years ago. It's like it's like mind blowing. It's
like they hate the country and like, you know, why
(19:34):
represent part that I don't get is why would you
want to represent a country that you hate? You know,
It's just it's mind blowing to me.
Speaker 6 (19:42):
Uh, I don't know, I I it just is it's
been such a hard two weeks emotionally for all of
us that have hearts and a conscience and us Aul
and I don't care if you agreed or disagreed with
Charlie Kirk. I mean, why would you say anything you
know so evil and horrific as some of the examples
(20:05):
we've been playing and showing you And I don't know
it just it kind of wears me out. It's like
I can't explain something that's not explained a bowl, If
that makes sense. It's it just is. But you know,
there's always going to be dark, evil people around us.
We need to understand that, embrace that, and protect ourselves
(20:28):
against it. It's it is what it is. But we
can't cower in the face of evil.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
We just can't.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
You know, I think Donald Trump showed that to us
in Butler, Pennsylvania. You know who else would would get
shot and come within a millimeter of losing their life
and having their head blown off and stand up and
go fight, fight, fight. I can't think of many people
that would pull that off. Zach, appreciate you, man, God
bless you. Eight hundred and nine four one, Shawn our number.
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Jerry in Florida, my free state. Up, Jerry, how are you, sir?
Speaker 10 (21:02):
Hi there?
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Sean?
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Hey, I'm kind of wondering why all these leftists and
whatnot all pissed up about Jimmy Kimmel. Where were they
when Suzanne Bar got canceled for telling a joke or.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
You mean Rose Ambar?
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Yeah, oh Roseannbar excuse me, it was actually in her
case it was a tweet.
Speaker 10 (21:21):
Is that right, okay?
Speaker 6 (21:22):
And she and she pointed out today after Barack Obama,
you know, said, you know, started complaining about, you know,
quote cancel culture, the current administration has taken cancel culture
to a new and dangerous level. Donald Trump's not responsible
for Jimmy Kimmel being fired.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
He's not exactly.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
And you know, and Jimmy Kimmel, he relished in the
idea that Tucker Carlson got fired from Fox News for
saying things that uh, you know, the corporate elites at
that point apparently weren't in love with But he didn't
say anything in Centerary or anything like that that would cause,
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you know, such a backlash and definitely didn't deserve a
bullet to the throat. But you know, it's it's amazing
how they complain about somebody losing their job, but they're
they're they're celebrating somebody losing their life, you know. And
so it's I mean, the hypocrisy is abundant, you know,
(22:24):
But but you know, there was there was one.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
Listen, Jimmy Kimmel. You'll hear from Jimmy Kimmel again. And
I think you're gonna hear from a very angry Jimmy Kimmel,
and he'll go on a platform where he will be
even more vitriolic and more hateful, and I think he'll
chase more people away in the process. I don't think
he's going to learn the lesson that he has alienated
so many people. Look, if you're ratings, you know, started
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a two share and it goes all the way down
on a one one one, whatever is his final share was.
I haven't looked at his ratings in a while, but
they were garbage. And then at some point there's got
to be a little introspection and self reflection and of
course correction otherwise. And you you know, one of the
things that I've often like to do in my life
(23:13):
and career is, you know, read research about me. There
there are companies their entire job is they will research
on air talent, and you know, they they verbatims of
my audience, are brutally honest, and they will tell me
what they like and what they don't like. And when
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I see a pattern of criticism, I take it seriously
and I try to make adjustments.
Speaker 11 (23:39):
Well can I can I? Can? I?
Speaker 3 (23:43):
I hope I'm not stepping over the bounds but here's
something really I would really enjoy seeing if you can
make happen on going to your corporate leaders at Fox
News and convinced all twelve, all twenty four hours of
the day that during there's a segment on there that
there's going to be a contest for people to develop
(24:04):
sending in leads for the clips of Charlie Kirk actually
saying anything racist, fascist or nazi like or whatnot like that,
and have them put it together and promise that you
guys will make a montage of it and dedicate an
entire show showing people you know what a racist, fascist,
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nazi that Charlie Kirk ever was, which will be an
empty show. So what you could then show is actually,
you know, all the rioting and everything that happened during
twenty twenty, but offer him a carrot and the benefit
of that, you'd have all these liberals who would be
dying to be able to win this, say ten thousand
(24:49):
or twenty thousand dollars or whatever like that for winning
this contest, and they would actually have to go online
and actually listen to him, because most of them only
say that he the racist and he's a fascist, and
they've never listened to a word he said, and it
might actually change some minds.
Speaker 6 (25:07):
And I think the beauty of what Charlie would do
is prove me wrong. When he would go on college
campuses in a hostile environment and if you'd get called
all those names, he'd say, Okay, can you give me
one example you're a fascist? You're a racist? Year this
year that can you give me one example you're a fascist?
Can you give me one example you're a fascist? I mean,
(25:29):
that's how the conversation went every single time. It was
actually it was funny, and he would do it with
a smile on his face. The answer to the question
is you're right, you answered your own question. It would
there'd be no content to that hour. But that's a good,
good funny idea. I like it anyway, Jerry, appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (25:47):
Man.
Speaker 6 (25:47):
Glad you're out there. Eight hundred ninety four one Sean.
Our number. Let's get back to our busy phones. Eight
hundred and ninety four one Sean. If you want to
be a part of the program. Aaron is in Pennsylvania
on the Sean Hannity Show. Aaron, how are you glad
you called sir by the way, I'm sorry for the
people in Pennsylvania. I know these cops were shot in
your county and our prayers are with them and their families.
Speaker 11 (26:09):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
Sean was actually in New York yesterday when it was happening,
but I lived near Pennsylvania.
Speaker 11 (26:13):
So yeah, thank you for for the.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
Prayers, and Sean, thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 11 (26:18):
I pray that God continues to bless you and protect you.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
When God blesses you, you can bless us, and you keep
up the great work and keep going the reason I
was calling.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
I know you received some push back from callers. You're
darting college students, playing the game, going along to get
the grade, and I agree with you completely on that one. Now,
unless the person is being required to denounce Jesus christis
as I say, you're obviously you're not going to do that.
Speaker 11 (26:49):
But got to look at the big picture.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
When someone has dominion over you, like the college professor,
that's probably not the right time to do battle with
them and sacrifice your grade. Retaking the class might not
be an option for financially. Might be the only professor
that does it, that teaches the class.
Speaker 11 (27:04):
So what are you going to do?
Speaker 5 (27:04):
Go through the cost gain with the same professor that's
making you, that's going to.
Speaker 11 (27:08):
Impose these radical views on you. But so look at
the big picture and look at look ahead. When can
I have a platform?
Speaker 5 (27:14):
So it means I go along, get my grade, get
my diploma, then become a high school teacher or a
college professor, maybe at the same university. There is my platform.
That's why I can make a bigger influence on young
people with the truth and conservative values. Or if you
work hard enough and you're in a physician financially, you
can support a turning point in USA chapter at a
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college financially or programs are more conservatively based. So God
to look at the big picture, not not to battle
just because someone is going to someone's challenging you.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
Well, I have very specific circumstances in which I'd make
this exception, knowing how hard and competitive it is to
get into medical school, law school, graduate schools for particular,
you know, field of endeavor, some of the top schools.
You want to go to the top school, and let's
(28:07):
say you have a perfect A you know, four point
zero average, You have to take tests, et cetera, and
then you have one professor that you know is so
abusively biased and bigoted against conservatives, and you know that
maybe maybe God made you to be a doctor and
(28:29):
that is what you've always wanted to do. I've always
found that people are doctors and nurses and teachers and policemen,
environment et cetera, almost without exception. They're called to do it,
they wanted to do it since they were young, and
you know that, Okay, that's going to put you at
a competitive disadvantage if you get a bad grade because
(28:49):
you're challenging a teacher. I don't see any I'm not
going to tell those students to stand up and fight
those professors that will punish them if they speak up.
As long as they know that it's an indoctrination, as
long as they do it consciously, and they do it
because they have a much bigger goal in dream and
purpose in their life, I won't criticize them.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
I won't now.
Speaker 6 (29:13):
I had the same experience in college, and I took
on a Marxist communist professor by his own admission. Years later,
I ended up having him on Hannity and Holmes, and
he remembered me, I'm not surprised because we took over
the whole class for the second part of that semester,
and he ended up punishing me with the worst grade
I ever got in college, which was a C plus
(29:35):
and i'd aced the It was a midterm and final class,
and i'd aced the midterm, and at that point then
I started speaking up. I must have got en F
on the final or close to it. So yeah, he
punished me for that, but it was but I was
not in a position that I needed to worry about it.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
I really wasn't.
Speaker 6 (29:57):
So you know, my argument to these kids is I
support whatever, you know, whatever dream that God put in
your heart that you want to follow, and I don't
think you're selling out your principles if you make the decision.
You know what, I'm not going to hurt my chances
of getting into med school or graduate school or nursing
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school or whatever it happens to be. I think that's
a lot to put on a kid, and I think
it's just unfair that they're in an environment that does
not foster real, genuine dialogue, debate, and a free and
open exchange of ideas. I mean, that's the beauty of
what Charlie was doing, is he was doing what the
(30:39):
schools the indoctrination centers that we call universities were supposed
to do fostering debate, civil debate, and he did it civilly.
I mean the people that weren't civil with the left.
I'll give you the last word.
Speaker 5 (30:53):
Shown you're absolutely right again. You have to look at
the big picture, forward thinking, say where can make Where
can I make the biggest impact? Going head to head
with it with the college professor, You're not going to
make a big impact. They're going to push you back
down and then you mess up the course, potentially mess
up the course for the rest of your career. Look
at the big picture, where where can I make the
(31:13):
bigger impact? And the bigger impact will be teaching a
college or a high school course, becoming a doctor or
lawyers or the mother financially a successful career path that
you can make make the influence elsewhere financially supporting Turning
Point USA chapters or other conservative programs. So Sean, thank
you so much for taking my call. You're doing an
awesome job keeping up. We'll keep the prayers going for
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our country and for our leaders.
Speaker 6 (31:38):
I appreciate you being out there and giving me this
mic every day. Thank you, my friend. And giving me
the camera every night. We're going to try and earn
your trust every day news, information, opinion, honest about it
that you won't get from the legacy media mob. That's
our mission anyway. Eight hundred nine to four one. Shawn
is on number if you want to be a part
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