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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, Thank you Scott Shannon. Thanks to all of
you for being with us. Right down our toll free
telephone number. We'd love to hear from you this Friday.
It's eight hundred and ninety four one Sean if you
want to join us. The President just posting this on
truth Social I just completed a very productive call with
President Chi of China. We made progress on many very
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important issues, including trade, fentan hal, the need to bring
the war between Russia and Ukraine to an end, and
the approval of the TikTok deal. I also agreed with
President She that we would meet at the APEC summit
in South Korea, that I would go to China in
the early part of next year. President She would likewise
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come to the United States in an appropriate time. The
call was a very good one. We will be speaking
again by phone. Appreciate the TikTok approval, and both look
forward to meeting at APEX.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
So that's very interesting.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
The President also, if you haven't been following it, is
trying to regain control. We never should have given this
up considering its strategic location, and that is Bogram Airbase
in Afghanistan. You can thank Joe Biden for that, on
top of the billions and billions and sophisticated and advanced
military equipment that Joe just abandoned, on top of other
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Americans abandoned, on top of which he said he would
never do, on top of allies that for you know,
over a decade or more had been assisting the United
States in and of course computers that had their names
on it, and some of them then targeted for death
according to some reports. You know, I find what's going
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on with this Jimmy Kimmel thing, and part of it's amusing,
you know, part of it is just garbage. And this
is a little bit of a frustrating part of all
of this before he even get started, because the left
in this country is making an argument that is just false.
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And I'll go into great specificity in detail about how
false it is, and that is that this is the
result of conservatives, or concerted effort of conservatives to silent
the left.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Well, all the.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Years I have been doing this radio program, I've been
on Fox many many of them. This program has been
targeted by people that have wanted me to be fired
and have said so openly. There are articles out there
I can pose them if you want. Here are Sean
Hannity's advertisers. There have been efforts to boycott this show.
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They they did the same to Rush Limbaugh. I know
they do it to Mark Levin. I'm sure they do
it to others too. I don't know everybody that has
had to deal with it, but it is a very
it's been a very real phenomenon that has gone on
for a long time now. Some will say, well, Hannity,
President Trump said Kimmel's next, and he hopes that that
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people like fallon, etcetera. What was he saying after Colbert
what he said Kimmel's Next? I said, Kimmel's next, meaning
it's just predictable. It's predictable. And I'll go into great
specificity about how his ratings have tanked, how he has
lost seventy two percent of his target audience in a
relatively short period of time. The means that means the
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show is failing. While simultaneously, in that same time period,
for example, somebody like Greg Guttfeldt has ascended with more
than twice the ratings of Jimmy Kimmel. And and you know,
how do you lose seventy two percent in your target
demo and expect to keep a job at a broadcast network,
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you know, to the point where you know they're getting
one point six million. You know, maybe he would have
at some point had some introspection, some are and maybe
a course shift and a course change to try to
gain some of his audience back. If you look at
the map of this country, politically, it is mostly read
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and the idea that stations are station groups or people
who are complaining to the stations. You know, they all
have to make business decisions. Broadcasting, at the end of
the day is also business. And as soon as you
become a liability and you're not making money and you
can't attract an audience and you can't attract advertisers, which
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is why it was at times, you know, I'm not
gonna lie. It was frustrating and disconcerting and a battle
we had to engage in constantly to silence us. But
Democrats are acting like this is you know, Trump saying, well,
Kimmel's next. He was making a prediction, a prediction based
on what he thinks is no talent, and a prediction
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based on low ratings. Because the president's very attuned to
what people's ratings are are and who's successful and who's not.
On television, he had a long running, you know, number
one rated show himself, The Apprentice. But you know, to
listen to these democrats now and their utter hypocrisy is breathtaking.
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Listen to democrats attempting starting with Jensaki and then moving
on to the likes of Tim Walls and Hillary Clinton
and Kamala Harris and AOC and on and on and on.
Just listen to democrats and what they say about freedom
of speech with their now claiming is at risk.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
You shouldn't be banned from one platform and not others
if you afford uh providing misinformation out there.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
There's no guaranteed of free speech on misinformation or or
hate speech.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
And especially around our democracy, there.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
Are Americans who are engaged in this kind of propaganda.
And whether they should be civilly or even in some
case is criminally charged, is something that would be a
better deterrent.
Speaker 7 (06:05):
If people go to only one source and the source
they go to is sick, and you know, as an
agenda and they're putting out disinformation, our First Amendment stands
as a major block. It's really hard to govern today.
Speaker 8 (06:21):
This is a matter of corporate responsibility. Twitter should be
held accountable and shut down that site. It is a
matter of safety and corporate accountability.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
The First Amendment is not absolute.
Speaker 9 (06:31):
It does not protect any single thing anyone says, and
there are limits, and that's important. And what this committee
has been trying to do for the last year and
a half is to chill the federal government from monitoring
what is going on on social media.
Speaker 10 (06:48):
When you look at what Tucker Carlson and some of
these other folks on Fox do, it is very very
clearly incitement of violence, very clearly incitement of us. Believe
that when it comes to broadcast television like Fox News,
these are subject to to federal law, federal regulation in
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terms of what's allowed on air and what isn't.
Speaker 11 (07:12):
So my biggest concern is that your view has the
First Amendment hamstringing the government in significant ways.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Now go over what we just heard there.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
You know, Jensaki talking about the platforming Donald Trump, no
guarantee of freedom of speech. Tim Walls criminally or civilly
being you know, charged or prosecuted, Hillary Clinton, Kamala Harris
shut down Twitter, you know, silence voices. AOC doesn't even
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understand the law very different. You know, governing regulations, you
have to act within the public interest. If you are
a broadcast channel, that's not the same. The standard does
not exist on cable, you know, inciting people to violence.
I defy her to give us examples. I don't know
any off the top of my head. I'm not saying
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that it doesn't exist. I'm just saying I can't think
of one. So, you know, and all of these people,
they say all these things, and then then they're acting
as though you know that Conservatives, you know, short of
Donald Trump predicting that Kimmel's demise was imminent because of
bad ratings and no talent and wanting it to happen
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is very different than what they are saying here. You know,
the idea that the monies that were used, there were
organizations that were used to shut down talk radio for decades.
We know where the money came from. Here's a list
of Sean Hannity's advertisers. Why Sean Hannity needs to be fired,
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Why Fox News needs to fire Sean Hannity, I Rush
Limbaughs should be fired, and and and all the other
conservatives that have been through this. One of the things
that makes this so interesting is Roseanne Barr pointed out
yesterday it was Obama and Michelle Obama that are, you know,
complaining former President Obama weighing in after years or complaining
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about cancel culture. The current administration has taken it to
a new dangerous level that's predicated on the belief that
Donald Trump did this. Donald Trump was in England when
all of this happened, and you know, and Roseanne pointing
out it was Barack and Michelle Obama that called Bob
Biger to have her fired because of a tweet she
put out in twenty eighteen. By the way, unlike Kimmel,
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her show was a big success. And it wasn't just
elected officials. Their allies in the legacy media mob, you know,
rushed to feign their outrage about ABC's decision. You know,
you don't. You don't have a right to work at
a broadcast network. You have to earn that right, and
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the way you earn it is by delivering results for
your employer. And that means that you get viewership, that
enough people want to watch you or enough people want
to listen to you. And I don't remember any outrage,
you know, when you know Gina Carono was fired. As
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a matter of fact, Jimmy Kimmel was jumping for joy.
We played it yesterday when Tucker Carlson was fired. Couldn't
have been happier about it. You know, I don't want
to really hear this. It goes on and on and on.
If Kimmel had a massive audience, if he were more successful,
he probably wouldn't be in this position right now. He
very blunt, But let me give you the numbers so
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you have them because the arguments are spectacularly false. And
the very people, as I just played for you, that
have been calling for that censorship are the very Democrats
now that are claiming that the government did this when
it was a corporate decision by ABC and Bob Iger
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who runs ABC. You know, but if you look at,
you know, the last decade of his show, he lost
you know, almost a million viewers. I mean that is
a that is more than a third of his audience.
Then if you look at the target demo for a
show like Kimmel's, which is supposed to be a comedy show,
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he lost seventy two percent of younger viewers twenty five
to fifty four. In other words, he lost three out
of four of them in that category. Okay, you might say, well,
cord cutting played a part. Then explain the phenomenon of
Greg Guttfeldt. Greg Guttfelt's funny. You know, I've said on
this program before, I actually think Bill Maher is funny.
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Bill Maher also showed last weekend that he has a
heart on his podcast, unlike a lot of his counterparts.
You know, I understand it's personal for John Stewart, he
would have been a far better choice than Stephen Colbert
and and CBS announced and even it was reiterated yesterday
that he was not fired for his political views. He
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was fired because the show wasn't making money. Roseanne Barr
was making money. Bob Grant, oh, ABC talk radio host
in New York City, Yeah, and Cindy area as hell,
no dispute, kind of like late night comedy hosts and
other people, you know. And here's the other thing. When
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you get to the bottom of this, Jimmy Kimmel will
have plenty of options. Jimmy Kimmel's life is not going
to end if he wants to continue to, you know,
spew his left wing venom in the guise of being funny,
because he's not. His biggest problem is he's not funny.
That's the biggest problem he has. And he and Colbert
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and frankly all of them have decided that they wanted
to be left wing, radicalized Trump paiding political commentators. Well,
they failed to take a look at the entire country
that ABC affiliates were broadcasting too, and they failed to
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pay attention when their ratings took a dramatic were dramatically declining.
And it's been in a steep, significant, steady decline, and
there's been no introspection, no reflection, and no course correction.
And if you just keep doing what you're doing and
doubling then tripling down on it, even the people that
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may politically agree with you, and it's the same thing
every night, it's not going to work. And he made,
you know, had no plans, according to reports, to make
an apology, one report saying that he was even defiant
in the face of the criticism. I guess of Bob
Biger and other leaders at ABC was going to be
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more defined. According to one report that came out yesterday, Okay,
that's a choice you make. You could either work with
your broadcast partner with your your your boss, or decide
to go your own way and then you know you
risk the consequences. This is not complicated, and it's not
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what they're saying it is. It just isn't. It's plain
and simple. Eight hundred nine one, Shawn, if you want
to be a part of the program, and as we
roll along, eight hundred ninefot one Sean. By the way,
if you want to call in, I know a lot
of you. This has been a very very emotional a
little over a week now and you probably want to
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have a lot to say. And we have a couple
of really good guests today. One is Frank Turk. Frank
is a Christian apology apolog apologist. They call it apologetics
is what it's called, and he has a ministry cross
Examined dot org. He was right next to Charlie when
he was assassinated and in the car with him as
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they raced off to the hospital. They couldn't even close
the door, he described it. I'm going to play that
later and he'll join us at the top of the
next hour, but we'll get to some of your calls
in the next half hour as well. And also a
story that we mentioned didn't have enough time to get
to and that's arctic frost. As described by Senator Charles Grassley,
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him and Ron Johnson Responsible ninety six or No.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
No.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Ninety two, Conservative organizations, including Turning Point were being targeted
by this weaponized you know, white house of Joe Biden.
I want to go back to some of the rhetoric
of the left. Now, let me play the medium meltdown
over Kimmel's suspension by ABC. Let's just play the media meltdown.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Even though we're talking about comedy. This is so serious.
Speaker 12 (15:46):
Aaron America is a less free place if late night
comedians cannot do and say what they want. This is
just the latest chapter in Donald Trump's ongoing campaign to
crack down on free speech, dominate the media, and essentially
render the First Amendment meaningless.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
The suppression of Democratic Party speech is coming next.
Speaker 9 (16:07):
That is a message to every other broadcaster on every
other medium in this country that if you say something
the leader doesn't like, you're probably at risk of getting asked.
Speaker 13 (16:17):
They are looking for reasons to get Jimmy Kimmel, and
they manufactured one out of something that is, you know,
hardly a dramatic departure from what lots of people are saying,
you can't go.
Speaker 14 (16:33):
Around firing somebody because you're fearful or trying to suck
up to an authoritarian, criminal administration in the Oval Office.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Not what happened. It just flat out lying to you.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Now, let's listen to the people that have really advocated
to censor information and keep in mind, and this isn't
about me, but there have been, you know, efforts throughout
a lot of my career, and a lot of Russia's career,
and a lot of Levin's career, and a lot of
other prominent radio and TV host careers to get us
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fired and to boycott us. I've had to go through this,
you know, I spent a couple of decades dealing with
this crap and you have to fight back.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
But we have been the target of this.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Now one liberal ever came to my defense my private
text messages released. Nobody came to my defense. They didn't
care if they just covered it, and they're big coverage
on fake news CNN and at MSDNC. Sean Hannity's text
messages released, Oh my gosh, it sounds like one of
his monologues. It's like he really believes this stuff. Does
that imply they don't. Well, let's listen to prominent democrats,
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shall we about cracking down on freedom of speech.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
You shouldn't be banned from one platform and not others
if you afore providing misinformation out there.
Speaker 14 (17:56):
There's no guaranteed of free speech on misinformation or or
hate speech.
Speaker 11 (18:00):
And especially around our democracy, there.
Speaker 6 (18:02):
Are Americans who are engaged in this kind of propaganda,
and whether they should be civilly or even in some
cases criminally charged is something that would be a better deterrent.
Speaker 7 (18:17):
If people go to only one source and the source
they go to is sick, and you know, as an agenda,
and they're putting out disinformation. Our First Amendment stands as
a major block. It's really hard to govern today.
Speaker 8 (18:33):
This is a matter of corporate responsibility. Twitter should be
held accountable and shut down that site. It is a
matter of safety and corporate accountability.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
The First Amendment is not absolute.
Speaker 9 (18:43):
It does not protect any single thing anyone says, and
there are limits and that's important. And what this committee
has been trying to do for the last year and
a half is to kill the federal government from monitoring
what is going on on social media.
Speaker 10 (19:00):
When you look at what Tucker Carlson and some of
these other folks on Fox do. It is very very
clearly incitement of violence, very clearly incitement of us. I
believe that when it comes to broadcast television like Fox News,
these are subject to federal law, federal regulation in terms
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of what's allowed on air and what isn't.
Speaker 11 (19:24):
So my biggest concern is that your view has the
First Amendment hamstringing the government in significant ways.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
First Amendment handstringing the government AOC incitement of violence on
Fox News. Really, you know, I'll take the examples when
she gets time. Hen Sake calling for deep platforming Donald Trump,
Tim Walls, no guarantee of freedom of speech. We should
criminally or civilly charge people Hillary Rodham, Clinton Kamala shut
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down Glitter. Oh no, I didn't hear Humpty dumpty or
any of these other people are fake Jake Tapper or
David Letterman or Keith Oberman or any of these other
people that are screaming bloody murder out there, talk about
any of these examples.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Not one time.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Now, there was good advice that was given by somebody
that was a successful late night comedian for many, many decades.
Jay Leno This is what he said after co BET's firing.
Speaker 15 (20:28):
I like to think can people come to a comedy
show to kind of get away from the things, you know,
the pressures of life wherever it might be. I love
political humor, I don't get me wrong, but it's just
what happens is people wind up cozing too much to
one side or the other. Why shoot for just half
an audience all the time, you know, why not try
to get the whole of I mean, I like to
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bring people into the big picture. I don't understand why
you would alienate one particular group, you know, or just
don't do it at all. I'm not saying you have
to throw your support or whatever, but just do what's funny.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Or just go on fake news CNN or MSDNC and
be a political commentator, because that's what these shows have
turned into.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
That I'm funny. You know.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
They all praise Johnny Carson as the greatest of all time.
Johnny Carson was asked us by Mike Wallace's.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Sensitive about the fact that people say he'll never take
a serious controversy. Well, I have an answer to that,
I said, Now tell me the last time that Jack
Benny red Skelton, Benny comedian used his show to do
serious issues.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
That's not what I'm there for.
Speaker 7 (21:37):
Can't they see that?
Speaker 11 (21:39):
But you and I do.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
They think that just because you have it tonight's show,
that you must deal in serious issues. It's a danger.
It's a real danger. Once you start that, you start
to get that self important feeling that what you say
has great.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Import and you know, strangely enough.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
You could use that show as a form you could
sway people. And I don't think you should as an entertainer.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
I don't think you should if you're going to be
an entertainer. Supposed to be a late nine comedy show.
RC is in South Carolina. Happy Friday, RC, Glad.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
You called same to you, Sean. How you doing?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I'm good? Ben? What's going on?
Speaker 5 (22:12):
I was just a pleasure you're talking to me. When
Charlie Kirk was assassinated last week, I think me, along
with millions of other people, are hers just sunk. And
I was thinking, how is the how is this? How's
this going to carry on in the country? You know,
And after looking at the news, just want to say,
there's like sixty one thousand applications for campuses of training point.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Incredible.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
It's an incredible that's going to amount of requests for
Turning Point chapters and it's only going to continue to grow.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
And I'm wondering what that's going to make the country
look like when this happens. I mean, to me, it's
great to hear that, because the country needs to go
back right and uh not be so stupid for better word.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
But I listen, I I think it's incalculable in this moment,
and we're heading into the funeral weekend and the big
memorial service on Sunday in Glendale, Arizona. But Charlie, I
don't think we're going to be able to calculate for
some time, maybe maybe a couple of years from now,
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the how this is a tipping point moment for the
country and how this assassination has did awaken a sleeping giant.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
I really believe that.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
And one more quick thing, how why are who are
these people thinking? What do they think we go attack
ICE agents in New York That was also on the.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
News this morning.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
What are they? Are they aliens or the American citizens
that are attacking ICE agents?
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (23:47):
I mean usually uh, they are radicalized leftists that I
guess you know, those people that put the rights or
so called rights of illegals over the safety of Americans.
I have a hard time understanding that. You know, just
like those idiots that believe in defund the police and
you know, dismantle them, no bail laws, sending the social
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workers reimagine. It just makes no sense. Common sense with
the left is dying and dead. Appreciate the call will
stay in South Carolina. Sam the Man, Sam the Man,
How are you happy Friday?
Speaker 5 (24:22):
Sir Sean. There's a huge difference in what you're seeing
right now and what the left did for decades. For decades,
the left canceled people and tried to destroy their lives
based on how they voted, what beliefs they espoused, if
they had on a red hat or not when they
entered a restaurant. They tried to destroy people's lives. And
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now the left apparently thinks that they can silence people
by murdering them, celebrating their deaths, and then lying about
the circumstances under which they died. They're getting a dose
of the their own medicine, and they don't like it.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Well, as evidenced by all the comments that I may
I play Jensaki and Hillary Clinton and Tim Walls and
Kamala Harris and aoc Dan Goldman and others about freedom
of speech. How apropos it is to to play them
now considering the arguments they're making. They're just such hypocrites.
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One question, pretty amazing, Yes, sir, I'd like.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
Your audience has themselves. Is it taking away someone's First
Amendment rights to freedom of speech to murder them? Thank you, Sean,
I'm for taking my call.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Oh what happened to Charlie's freedom of speech? Pretty profound?
North Carolina Scott next on the Sean Hannity Show, Scott,
how are you glad you called?
Speaker 5 (25:54):
Great?
Speaker 16 (25:54):
Thanks mister Hannity. I'm loving your show today.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Hey, thank you.
Speaker 16 (25:59):
You know call there and Kimmel and those sort of guys.
You know, there's all this upcrying and sadness and upheople
from the left and how dare this?
Speaker 5 (26:10):
But if they had talent, don't you think.
Speaker 16 (26:13):
Their comrades at CNN or MSNBC would hire them as
a counterweight to the gut failed when they clearly know
that they are talentless and don't stand a chance.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
They really don't stand the trends. I mean that when
you lose seventy two percent of your audience, says Kimmel
has in his target demographic.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
I mean, at that.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Point, you know, when you had lost fifty percent of
your audience, did you not stop, have a staff meeting
and say, okay, something is radically wrong here. Was there
any self examination, any self reflection, any introspection, any course correction.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
The answer is no, that's on him. Teachers.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
You know there's a percent of mi Kins failed. I'd
be fired New York Post today. Kimmel dug his own grave.
It's all true. Nobody wants to hear that right now.
But you know, the good news for Jimmy is he
will find you a platform that works for him, and
maybe he'll learn something from it. I tend to doubt it.
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I think he's just going to get angrier and more vitriolic.
That's my prediction. But you never know. Maybe this, maybe
in some ways this will humble him, But I don't
see any evidence of that happening anyway. My friend, appreciate
the call. Let's say hi to Griffin and Connecticut. Griffin,
thank you for calling.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Happy Friday to you, Yes, Happy Friday to you.
Speaker 17 (27:40):
Sean. You're a patriotic hero and a gentleman to be admired.
I feel it in this country we give much too
much attention glorifying these killers who go out and just
want that, and then the left feeds off of it,
making the person a heroic and memorable figure.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
You always run.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
The risk of copycats. You always run the risk. You
know there's always going to be sick people in society.
But this goes to the point that I had been
making for the better part of a week at different times.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
And when you get to your final.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Argument in a presidential election cycle that your opponent is
a threat to democracy and a racist and a Nazi
and a fascist, and that he's Hitler and Stalin and Mussolini,
you have dehumanized that person. And there are many many
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You have to be aware that there are many mentally
ill people out there. I look, I could tell you,
in all truth, I wish Jimmy Kimmel the best. I
don't know what's going to happen with ABC. I really
don't even care because I don't watch the show The
Beauty about you know, having so many options, I can't
force people to listen to this radio show. I just
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have to do the best show I can do so
that you want to listen. I have to do the
best TV show at night so you want to watch.
And it's and I work hard at it, and I
don't stop working hard at it. I'm working harder now
than I've ever worked because I care that much. But
I think you raised a good point. He will have
a platform someplaces. I don't know if it's going to
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be ABC, if you'll make a deal with them or not.
We'll see over time, though I tend to think not