October 1, 2025 • 28 mins
Sean Hannity's latest show takes aim at Senator Chuck Schumer's role in the recent government shutdown showdown. Joined by bestselling author Bill O'Reilly, Hannity frames Schumer's actions as political theater designed for attention, likening them to clickbait tactics popular in today's media landscape. O'Reilly, promoting his book "Confronting Evil," argues that Democrats are manufacturing crises out of desperation, rather than offering genuine policy solutions. Their wide-ranging discussion highlights hypocrisy in political messaging and underscores why these D.C. power plays matter to everyday Americans as the nation heads toward critical elections.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, Leonard Skinner, simpleman. That can only mean one
thing on this radio program. That's all things. Self proclaimed
simple man. That means all things Bill O'Reilly, all things
Bill O'Reilly or billoreilly dot com. Mister O'Reilly number one
New York Times bestseller of the new book Confronting Evil
and there is evil in the world.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Mister O'Reilly, sir.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
How are you you? You are thrilled to know me?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Right in some ways? Yeah, I mean twenty straight.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Whenever we go to breakfast or lunch, and I pay
for it every single time. But whatever I mean, I
don't mind.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
You got more money than But I do want to
say this sincerely. When you read a book of mine
or probably anybody else's, and you tell your audience you
like it, that's huge for the author. That's big because
you got what four thousand radio stations.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Here is something pretty close. We're up there, you know,
it's amazing. Before we get into the topic that I
want to discuss with you, which is the government shutdown.
You know, there is a phenomenon back in the day
when I started my talk radio career, believe it or not,
nineteen eighty seven, mister O'Reilly.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
And I would.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
I would listen to other hosts and I would hear them,
you know, let me give you the toll free telephone numbers.
You know, they're the nine four one wwww, right, And
they'd give out the phone number and they wouldn't get
any calls. And we have one open line at eight
hundred and nine four one wwww.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
You still have one open line, eight undred nine vote.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
And they get more incendiary and more incendiary and more incendiary,
until finally they pissed somebody off one of the few
listeners enough that somebody would call the show right right, right, Okay,
So now we got everybody in their mother And I
said this years ago, by the end of my career
one day and I, well, it's not anytime soon. I
(02:01):
hope that everybody's gonna have their own talk show. And
I watch these people that have their podcasts, their quote,
their media networks, they're this, they're that, and it's like
they all crave and need a click, they need attention,
So they get more incindiary, not for the purpose of
(02:26):
espousing something they're passionate about or believe, but because they
want to get noticed. Now you and I can make
a headline in five seconds right now if we wanted to.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
But we don't do that.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
And I'm watching this game go on and I'm like,
I'm laughing at it. I think it's funny because I
don't think it's I don't think it is something that
works in the long term. One thing both of us
have in common is longevity in this business. And I
don't think that gives you longevity.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
It also cheapens you, you know, And I made a
few mistakes early in my career by you know, going
after George Clooney maybe too hard or somebody like that
that really didn't matter very much. But when you make
it all personally.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Well, well please stop here.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
You cannot go after that jackass, George Cloney hard enough,
ra and him and his wife, their comments about bb
nets and Yahoo were so over the top.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Well, you can go after them, but you have to
go after them on policy and on statements, not on
personal And these people who do this on the podcast front,
going after people personally, they're diminishing themselves and they will
not be successful. Now I'm going to make a stunning
transition into the story of the day. What you just
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described as far as podcasts and clicks and people trying
to get attention on the internet is exactly what that
Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer is doing, exactly the same thing.
Humor knows that there's no way on earth that President
(04:14):
Trump and the Republican Party are going to acquiesce to
pay for the healthcare of illegal immigrants. He knows that
every Democrat knows that, any more than IQ over fifty
knows that. Yet he walks into the White House.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
By the way, Bill, do you think I have an
IQ of over fifty? I've never had a test.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
You got four thousand radio stations. You don't need an IQ.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I'm kidding. Keep going, all right.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
So Humor knows, he walks in, and he knows that
this is never going to happen, yet he does it anyway.
So what does that tell you? It tells you didn't
want a deal. He wanted to shut the government down.
It's exactly what happened. Now, you then advanced the story
why why would the Democratic Party want to shut down?
(05:06):
There's a number of articles about one in the Washington
Post today saying, Oh, this is going to hurt the
Democratic Party, this is going to do this, This is
going to do that. That's not true. The Democratic Party
is at it's low ebb. It has nothing. It's losing
on every single front except for the radical left urban centers,
(05:26):
all right. And so Schumer is trying to get negative
attention by the government shutdown by saying no, no, no, no,
it's all Trump's fault because he knows that people don't
pay attention. They don't really know what the big issue
is here. All they know is that the services are
being shut down. Some people are panicking, Oh, I won't
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get this or I won't get that, and that's what
the Democrats want. Now. You and I have been around
long enough to know that this shutdown is going to
get solved, all right. It always does, and they'll come
to some kind of compromise which will not include healthcare
payments for illegal migrants. It will not. But this was
(06:09):
by design. The leadership of the Democratic Party wanted to
go in, wanted to shut it down, and are hoping
that this will reignite some kind of support for the party.
So that is a simple man's analysis.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
It's even deeper. I mean, I play this montage I'm
going to play for you. I don't know if you've
heard it. Interestingly, the Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson,
put it on a loop on a TV outside of
his office in the Halls of Congress, which I find hilarious.
And this is the Democrats in past years talking about
(06:48):
how horrible government shutdowns are, and this is the Schumer shutdown.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Listen, it is not.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Normal to shut down the government, but we don't get
what we want. If the government shuts down, it will
be at Americans who suffer most. A government shutdown means
seniors who rely on Social Security could be thrown into chaos.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Families will be hurt, Farmers will be hurt.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
It's the service members who will work without a paycheck.
It's the firefighters who will be furlough the shutdown. You
know who's gonna feel the pain.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
You know who it hurts you, everyday people and the
most vulnerable.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Seniors, veterans, working, families, hungary, kids off.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
Democrats are signalings that they're ready for a fight this time,
Stumor tells the Associated Press.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Both things have changed.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
It is not normal to shut down the government when
we don't get.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
What we want.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Now, you got to admit that's damn good and amusing
as hell.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Yeah, sure, I mean, I'm not sure it furthers the debate, because.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
The Democrats further the debate. It shows what raging hypocrites
they are.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
All right, but you can make a case that almost
every politician has ever lived as a hypocrit. But what
this reflects is desperation. And Schumer's got a personal agenda
here too. He's at the end of the line, Schumer,
and he's absolutely desperate not to get primaried by Cortes,
all right, because she could beat him in New York.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
See them, She will kill him, she will destroy him,
and he will get wiped out and embarrassed. Okay, your
state of New York, by the way, is going You're
not doing a good job. By the way, I'm blaming
you for the decline of New York.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
You're bill O'Reilly. You live in New York.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
You should be doing a better job of managing your state.
My free state of Florida is doing much much better.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
By the way, let me reply to that, my home field,
Nasau and Suffolk County has followed my lead.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
No, you can't bifurcate out the state and say, well,
what I live in particular is fine, but the rest
of New York sucks and and and take no responsibility
on your shoulders.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I'm not letting you off the hook, all right.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
I'm telling you that we're trending blue.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
And now there's Bruce Blakeman is great. I love Bruce Blakeman.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Yeah, I mean, I can't do anything about New York
City because I don't live in New York City.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
You're copying out.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Your entire state is a woke you know, it's in
a woke state of insanity and madness and you haven't
fixed it.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Bill, that's your home turf. Uh.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Stefanic is gonna beat Hogel next year, so you're gonna
eat your words.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Listen, nobody would be happier if if, in fact Stefanic
could win that race.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I'd be very happy.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
He's gonna problem is too many, too many smart people
like me have said goodbye.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Well, yeah, I mean, look at California. My god, that's
worse than New York. A million and a half are gone.
But anyway, I'm doing the best I can do here,
and I'm making progress on my home field, and I'm
not taking credit for it. Of course, you get very
fine people here, but New York City dominates the state.
(10:10):
And that is got to blow up, and it will
if Man Donnie is elected, it will absolutely blow up.
And then you'll see the fire storm. And that's really
the only way that the state is ever going to change,
and the body count is going to be horrific.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Pick break right.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Back more with all Things simple Man, Bill O'Reilly all
Things O'Reilly of Bill O'Reilly dot com, and later Senator
Haggarty of Tennessee will join us as well. We'll get
the latest in Washington and much more as our coverage continues.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Sean Hannity show a thermonuclear mma assault on Baby News.
Hannity is on right now.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
All right, we continue now with all things self proclaimed
simple man. That means all things Bill O'Reilly, all things
O'Reilly or billoreilly dot com.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Did you see what he said in the press conference yesterday,
Man Donnie, He's gonna.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Watch him every day. I mean, he's great material.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
But this is the worst. He wants to take the
authority away from the New York City Police Commissioner discipline
officers and give it to civilians. That means that there
isn't going to be any police. They're all gone. You
can't work under a system like that, which is what
he wants. He hates the police calls him races. He's
going to cut a bill.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
He wants to open up the prisons and let all
the convicts out. He wants to take felonies and turn
them into you know, misdemeanors, which guarantees that these you know,
career criminals will be on the street. I mean, it's
a disaster in the making. I mean you can see,
you know, two trains heading towards each other on the
(12:23):
track and it's going to go. They're going to crash.
Your state is going to crash. And you're gonna call
me and you're gonna say, Hannity, your buddy, O'Reilly, I
need I need a place to stay, and can you
take me in? And I'm going to say yes, I
will tell you ahead of time, I will accept you.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
The important thing for your listeners to understand is that
all of this uh government shut down, hate Trump, all
of this stuff, lawsuits, lawsuits, lawsuits. It's all out of
desperation because the progressive left is losing badly and they
(13:03):
know it. So it's like you know, the Hail Mary
Pass or whatever cliche you want to use. They are
going to do irrational things to try to write the ship.
But it's not going to work, because probably will.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
The one thing that not even considering is a re examination, introspection,
self reflection, of course, correction in terms of their policies
that are out of sync with the American people. That
would be the answer for them, and they just that
that's not even part of the process.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Because the mindset of the progressives is that we are noble,
We are the good people and the maga trump of
the evil people, and we're not gonna We're not going
to walk away from our nobility. These are fanatics, These
are people who you know, you point out the fact
(14:02):
that the fact Phitsker is the best example, and this
is the most vivid example I could ever give any American.
Here's a man who's been in office almost eight years,
I think, and there have been literally thousands of poor
African Americans killed in Chicago, murdered by drug gangs. He
(14:23):
has done nothing to mitigate that now one thing yet
offered a blanket of protection by the federal government to
bring this murder rate down so that poor African Americans
are not shot dead. He not only says no, I
(14:44):
don't want the extra protection. But the people that are
offering in, including the President, are racists. I mean, how
irrational and hateful and destructive is that point of view.
That's the best example I can get of anybody.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Mister O'Reilly. We appreciate your.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Time, sir, Thanks very much, John, I really appreciate you.
Reading the book means a lot.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
By the way, you do need a simply save home
security system, you especially, do you know that. All right,
let's go to Chucky Schumer. This is the Schumer shutdown,
and it's getting interesting, and this is Schumer attacking the
New York Times. This was maybe the funniest moment I've
ever seen on the center floor of my lifetime.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Now, when I know the leader is going to show
a poll that says that Democrats will be blamed for
the shutdown, there are many more polls that show Republicans
are blamed. The question in that poll is biased, biased
in the New York Times, but it's biased if you
turned the question.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
That's true.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
I don't always believe the New York Times.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
You can be sure of that, even you know, all
good humor is rooted in the truth. I mean, for
Shumer to claim that the New York Times is biased
against Democrats. Is beyond laughable. But he tried to make
that case. Now, let's take a trip down memory lane
(16:15):
and let's play Chucky Schumer against government shutdowns over the years.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
It's sort of like this, someone goes into your house,
takes your wife and children hostage, and then says, let's
negotiate over the price of your house. You know, we
could do the same thing on immigration. We could we
believe strongly in immigration reform. We could say we're shutting
down the government. We're not going to raise the debt
ceiling until you pass immigration reform. It would be governmental chaos.
And what if I persuaded my cause to say I'm
(16:43):
going to shut the government down, I am going to
not pay our bills unless.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I get my way.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
It's a politics of idiocy, of confrontation, of paralysis. We're
now only a week away from a government shutdown, which,
to remind my colleagues, could cost our economy thousands of
jobs and billions of dollars, as it did in twenty thirteen.
I think a government shutdown is something we desperately want
to avoid, all of us. I don't know if they
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can pass the three week bill. We would much prefer
they do a full funding bill, but we're not going
to shut the government down. Senator McConnell wanted me to
negotiate the wall with President Trump. I said to him
two things.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
First, it's not a.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
Negotiation, no wall. And second, I said, only you can
persuade him that he shouldn't do the wall because it'll
cause a government shutdown. The White House has done nothing
but so chaos and confusion, division and disarray, and it
may just lead to a government shutdown that no one
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wants that all of us here have been striving to avoid.
And we do not want to let a Trump temper
tantrum govern our policies or cause the shutdown of a
government which everyone on both sides of the aisles knows
is the wrong idea. Speaker McCarthy needs to stop letting
the MAGA radicals drive his decisions and do the obvious
(18:06):
and sensible thing, follow the Senate's lead and pass a
bipartisan CR to prevent this reckless shutdown. CR means continue
the government spending a shutdown. The alternative is cut off
the government spending. And here's what we would what would
happen if we cut off government spending. It would be
(18:27):
devastation like we have never seen. We're saying now much.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
And now we find ourselves in the midst of the
Schumer shutdown. Now, what changed? The only thing that has
changed and changed dramatically is the radicalization of the Democratic Party.
Chuck Schumer, like Hakem. Jeffries, is leader in name only.
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He's not a leader. He doesn't have control of his caucus,
and he is scared to death of the radicals that
dominate his party and that they are insisting that the
government shut down. So everything he's ever stood for, every
position he's ever taken as it relates to government shutdowns,
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is now turned upside down on its head. And it
just reeks of nothing but Schumer hypocrisy because he's got
to give in to the radicals and his party and
he's got to do what they tell him to do.
Otherwise he's so desperate he still wants to cling to
his personal, blind political ambition that will transcend any desire
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to simply do what he believes is right.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
And that's the difference. That's what has changed. Now.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Our friend Senator Haggerty, who we like a lot on
this program, put out an ex post and said Republicans
are committed to keeping the government open with a clean,
r short term funding bill, radical left Democrats and an
a tempt to get a ridiculous Democrats now are asking
for one point five trillion dollars for a seven week
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continuing resolution one point five trillion and a wish list
of liberal priorities, and they've now shut down the government.
That's why it's the Schumer shutdown.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Now.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
As far as I'm concerned, I don't care how long
it goes on. I feel sorry for the people that
won't get their paychecks that probably won't happen till mid October.
I would expect this is going to extend out, probably
until then, that's my best guess. And I think Democrats
are just you know, they've they've now they've now cornered
themselves and getting out of this hole they've dug is
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going to be nearly impossible.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Uh. And this may go on for a while.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
But if they think they get one point five trillion
dollars for the insane policies that they're demanding out of
Donald Trump, they don't know Donald Trump, nor do they
know the Republican Caucus. Right now, it's not going to
happen anyway. Senator Bill Haggerty of Tennessee joins us, sir,
how are you welcome back?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Glad to have you.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
I'm great, Seawan, It's good to be back with you
as well. An interesting time. Indeed, you did a wonderful job.
That collage or trux humor statements was just fascinating. And
to hear him but they play victim to the New
York Times bias, that was just.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Too rich to That was maybe one of the best
moments I've ever seen on the Center floor.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
I was on the floor when it happened. We all
just just cracked up to hear him say that.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
But it gets back to, by the way, when even
when he started laughing because he knows it's complete bs true.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
It's so true. He was laughing as well. You're exactly right.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
All right, let's talk about how we got here, what
they're demanding, and why it's not going to happen, and
how this gets resolved eventually.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
You know, I think you hit the nail on the head.
Their party has changed dramatically. I would just add one
more thing to it. The party certainly is being run
by the radicals, and the radical left and the Democratic side.
But the elect dynamics in New York State have also changed,
and if you look at the polling, you've got a
situation where Chuck Schumer would be defeated today by AOC.
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We're a primary election to be held. What Chuck Schumer
is trying to do, and I think this is the
root of the hypocracy, is he views this as a
test of his political manhood and if he doesn't step up,
he allows if he doesn't shut the government down, I
should say, then he's going to allow AOC. And the
radical left claim that he's taken a knee to Trump,
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he's bowing to Trump, he's caving to Trump. That's the
argument that he's trying to avoid, and he's paining himself
into a corner in the process. So they found themselves
in an impossible situation. This is certainly not helping anybody.
You heard him go through all the reasons not to
shut the government down, Yet here we are, because this
is political theater, just so Chuck Schumer again can demonstrate
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his political manhood to the far far left.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Of his party.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Well, I don't really see how they get out of this,
except that at some point they're going to have to capitulate.
The reason I think it goes on through mid mid October.
Correct me if I'm wrong, is that the payments to
the military of other government employees, uh, that will that money,
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those moneys will go out forthwith and then the next
the first payment that they miss will be in mid October.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Is that about the right timing.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
I think that's that's certainly what I would put an
outer boundary on this Sean. I think that's that's exactly
the right way to think about it. But there's going
to be more intermediate pain. I think the issue here
is that Chuck Schumer is also precipitating the acceleration of
a much needed reduction in force of the federal government.
President Trump has been limited by lawsuits and by HR rules.
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Those limitations go away in the shutdown. President Trump has
much more power to terminate programs the taxpayer should be funding,
to eliminate jobs that shouldn't be paid for, and that
precipitation is the result of Chuck's humors. Moved last night
to shut the government down. Russ Votas instructed the departments
and agencies to go ahead and have their list ready
and to start pulling the trigger. So I think what
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you're going to start seeing is programs terminated, positions terminated
that aren't relevant anymore, and that's going to have the effect
of dramatically accelerating the reduction and size of government the
President Trump ran on. So President Trump wins either way,
is a brilliant negotiator. This is where we are, and
Chuck Schumer loses either way.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
What you're saying is is that this now opens the
door in many ways to DOSEE two point zero and
provides the president with an opportunity to eliminate unnecessary bureaucracy
in Washington.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
Then go, you nailed it. That's exactly what's going to
happen as well. And Chuck Schumer holds himself out as
the defender of the bureaucracy, but he's the one that
actually unleashed the knife.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Well, I mean, that's not necessarily the worst thing in
the world. Do you have a timetable on this. I mean,
you're in the cloak room, You're talking to Democratic senators.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
What are they saying to you?
Speaker 5 (25:08):
Well, I think there's a lot of frustration on the
Democrats side that they see Chuck doing this. I think
they realize that it's suicidal, but it has a lot
more to do, I think with New York state politics,
with his concerns about AOC potentially primary him, and as
I said earlier, were that race to happen today, AOC
would beat him. That's where the radical left has moved
that whole party, and as you said, that Democrat party
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has changed. This is a reflection of that. But trying
to hold the nation hostage the way Chuck Schumer is
doing this right now is not going to work. The
ridiculous request a trillion, a trillion and a half dollars
keep the government open for seven weeks while we go
through the appropriations process. It's absolutely insane. So this sort
of blackmail will not work as a dead infratrumer, and
(25:54):
we'll see how long you last.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
All right, Senator Bill Haggerty of Tennessee. We appreciate your time, sir,
as always, thank you for being with us.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
Thank you, Sean always ready to be with you. Thanks.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
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Up next our final roundup and information Overload hours
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thing on this radio program. That's all things. Self proclaimed
simple man. That means all things Bill O'Reilly, all things
Bill O'Reilly or billoreilly dot com. Mister O'Reilly number one
New York Times bestseller of the new book Confronting Evil
and there is evil in the world.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Mister O'Reilly, sir.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
How are you you? You are thrilled to know me?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Right in some ways? Yeah, I mean twenty straight.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Whenever we go to breakfast or lunch, and I pay
for it every single time. But whatever I mean, I
don't mind.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
You got more money than But I do want to
say this sincerely. When you read a book of mine
or probably anybody else's, and you tell your audience you
like it, that's huge for the author. That's big because
you got what four thousand radio stations.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Here is something pretty close. We're up there, you know,
it's amazing. Before we get into the topic that I
want to discuss with you, which is the government shutdown.
You know, there is a phenomenon back in the day
when I started my talk radio career, believe it or not,
nineteen eighty seven, mister O'Reilly.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
And I would.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
I would listen to other hosts and I would hear them,
you know, let me give you the toll free telephone numbers.
You know, they're the nine four one wwww, right, And
they'd give out the phone number and they wouldn't get
any calls. And we have one open line at eight
hundred and nine four one wwww.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
You still have one open line, eight undred nine vote.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
And they get more incendiary and more incendiary and more incendiary,
until finally they pissed somebody off one of the few
listeners enough that somebody would call the show right right, right, Okay,
So now we got everybody in their mother And I
said this years ago, by the end of my career
one day and I, well, it's not anytime soon. I
(02:01):
hope that everybody's gonna have their own talk show. And
I watch these people that have their podcasts, their quote,
their media networks, they're this, they're that, and it's like
they all crave and need a click, they need attention,
So they get more incindiary, not for the purpose of
(02:26):
espousing something they're passionate about or believe, but because they
want to get noticed. Now you and I can make
a headline in five seconds right now if we wanted to.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
But we don't do that.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
And I'm watching this game go on and I'm like,
I'm laughing at it. I think it's funny because I
don't think it's I don't think it is something that
works in the long term. One thing both of us
have in common is longevity in this business. And I
don't think that gives you longevity.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
It also cheapens you, you know, And I made a
few mistakes early in my career by you know, going
after George Clooney maybe too hard or somebody like that
that really didn't matter very much. But when you make
it all personally.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Well, well please stop here.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
You cannot go after that jackass, George Cloney hard enough,
ra and him and his wife, their comments about bb
nets and Yahoo were so over the top.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Well, you can go after them, but you have to
go after them on policy and on statements, not on
personal And these people who do this on the podcast front,
going after people personally, they're diminishing themselves and they will
not be successful. Now I'm going to make a stunning
transition into the story of the day. What you just
(03:52):
described as far as podcasts and clicks and people trying
to get attention on the internet is exactly what that
Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer is doing, exactly the same thing.
Humor knows that there's no way on earth that President
(04:14):
Trump and the Republican Party are going to acquiesce to
pay for the healthcare of illegal immigrants. He knows that
every Democrat knows that, any more than IQ over fifty
knows that. Yet he walks into the White House.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
By the way, Bill, do you think I have an
IQ of over fifty? I've never had a test.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
You got four thousand radio stations. You don't need an IQ.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I'm kidding. Keep going, all right.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
So Humor knows, he walks in, and he knows that
this is never going to happen, yet he does it anyway.
So what does that tell you? It tells you didn't
want a deal. He wanted to shut the government down.
It's exactly what happened. Now, you then advanced the story
why why would the Democratic Party want to shut down?
(05:06):
There's a number of articles about one in the Washington
Post today saying, Oh, this is going to hurt the
Democratic Party, this is going to do this, This is
going to do that. That's not true. The Democratic Party
is at it's low ebb. It has nothing. It's losing
on every single front except for the radical left urban centers,
(05:26):
all right. And so Schumer is trying to get negative
attention by the government shutdown by saying no, no, no, no,
it's all Trump's fault because he knows that people don't
pay attention. They don't really know what the big issue
is here. All they know is that the services are
being shut down. Some people are panicking, Oh, I won't
(05:48):
get this or I won't get that, and that's what
the Democrats want. Now. You and I have been around
long enough to know that this shutdown is going to
get solved, all right. It always does, and they'll come
to some kind of compromise which will not include healthcare
payments for illegal migrants. It will not. But this was
(06:09):
by design. The leadership of the Democratic Party wanted to
go in, wanted to shut it down, and are hoping
that this will reignite some kind of support for the party.
So that is a simple man's analysis.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
It's even deeper. I mean, I play this montage I'm
going to play for you. I don't know if you've
heard it. Interestingly, the Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson,
put it on a loop on a TV outside of
his office in the Halls of Congress, which I find hilarious.
And this is the Democrats in past years talking about
(06:48):
how horrible government shutdowns are, and this is the Schumer shutdown.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Listen, it is not.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Normal to shut down the government, but we don't get
what we want. If the government shuts down, it will
be at Americans who suffer most. A government shutdown means
seniors who rely on Social Security could be thrown into chaos.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Families will be hurt, Farmers will be hurt.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
It's the service members who will work without a paycheck.
It's the firefighters who will be furlough the shutdown. You
know who's gonna feel the pain.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
You know who it hurts you, everyday people and the
most vulnerable.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Seniors, veterans, working, families, hungary, kids off.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
Democrats are signalings that they're ready for a fight this time,
Stumor tells the Associated Press.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Both things have changed.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
It is not normal to shut down the government when
we don't get.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
What we want.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Now, you got to admit that's damn good and amusing
as hell.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Yeah, sure, I mean, I'm not sure it furthers the debate, because.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
The Democrats further the debate. It shows what raging hypocrites
they are.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
All right, but you can make a case that almost
every politician has ever lived as a hypocrit. But what
this reflects is desperation. And Schumer's got a personal agenda
here too. He's at the end of the line, Schumer,
and he's absolutely desperate not to get primaried by Cortes,
all right, because she could beat him in New York.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
See them, She will kill him, she will destroy him,
and he will get wiped out and embarrassed. Okay, your
state of New York, by the way, is going You're
not doing a good job. By the way, I'm blaming
you for the decline of New York.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
You're bill O'Reilly. You live in New York.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
You should be doing a better job of managing your state.
My free state of Florida is doing much much better.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
By the way, let me reply to that, my home field,
Nasau and Suffolk County has followed my lead.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
No, you can't bifurcate out the state and say, well,
what I live in particular is fine, but the rest
of New York sucks and and and take no responsibility
on your shoulders.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I'm not letting you off the hook, all right.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
I'm telling you that we're trending blue.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
And now there's Bruce Blakeman is great. I love Bruce Blakeman.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Yeah, I mean, I can't do anything about New York
City because I don't live in New York City.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
You're copying out.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Your entire state is a woke you know, it's in
a woke state of insanity and madness and you haven't
fixed it.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Bill, that's your home turf. Uh.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Stefanic is gonna beat Hogel next year, so you're gonna
eat your words.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Listen, nobody would be happier if if, in fact Stefanic
could win that race.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I'd be very happy.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
He's gonna problem is too many, too many smart people
like me have said goodbye.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Well, yeah, I mean, look at California. My god, that's
worse than New York. A million and a half are gone.
But anyway, I'm doing the best I can do here,
and I'm making progress on my home field, and I'm
not taking credit for it. Of course, you get very
fine people here, but New York City dominates the state.
(10:10):
And that is got to blow up, and it will
if Man Donnie is elected, it will absolutely blow up.
And then you'll see the fire storm. And that's really
the only way that the state is ever going to change,
and the body count is going to be horrific.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Pick break right.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Back more with all Things simple Man, Bill O'Reilly all
Things O'Reilly of Bill O'Reilly dot com, and later Senator
Haggarty of Tennessee will join us as well. We'll get
the latest in Washington and much more as our coverage continues.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Sean Hannity show a thermonuclear mma assault on Baby News.
Hannity is on right now.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
All right, we continue now with all things self proclaimed
simple man. That means all things Bill O'Reilly, all things
O'Reilly or billoreilly dot com.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Did you see what he said in the press conference yesterday,
Man Donnie, He's gonna.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Watch him every day. I mean, he's great material.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
But this is the worst. He wants to take the
authority away from the New York City Police Commissioner discipline
officers and give it to civilians. That means that there
isn't going to be any police. They're all gone. You
can't work under a system like that, which is what
he wants. He hates the police calls him races. He's
going to cut a bill.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
He wants to open up the prisons and let all
the convicts out. He wants to take felonies and turn
them into you know, misdemeanors, which guarantees that these you know,
career criminals will be on the street. I mean, it's
a disaster in the making. I mean you can see,
you know, two trains heading towards each other on the
(12:23):
track and it's going to go. They're going to crash.
Your state is going to crash. And you're gonna call
me and you're gonna say, Hannity, your buddy, O'Reilly, I
need I need a place to stay, and can you
take me in? And I'm going to say yes, I
will tell you ahead of time, I will accept you.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
The important thing for your listeners to understand is that
all of this uh government shut down, hate Trump, all
of this stuff, lawsuits, lawsuits, lawsuits. It's all out of
desperation because the progressive left is losing badly and they
(13:03):
know it. So it's like you know, the Hail Mary
Pass or whatever cliche you want to use. They are
going to do irrational things to try to write the ship.
But it's not going to work, because probably will.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
The one thing that not even considering is a re examination, introspection,
self reflection, of course, correction in terms of their policies
that are out of sync with the American people. That
would be the answer for them, and they just that
that's not even part of the process.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Because the mindset of the progressives is that we are noble,
We are the good people and the maga trump of
the evil people, and we're not gonna We're not going
to walk away from our nobility. These are fanatics, These
are people who you know, you point out the fact
(14:02):
that the fact Phitsker is the best example, and this
is the most vivid example I could ever give any American.
Here's a man who's been in office almost eight years,
I think, and there have been literally thousands of poor
African Americans killed in Chicago, murdered by drug gangs. He
(14:23):
has done nothing to mitigate that now one thing yet
offered a blanket of protection by the federal government to
bring this murder rate down so that poor African Americans
are not shot dead. He not only says no, I
(14:44):
don't want the extra protection. But the people that are
offering in, including the President, are racists. I mean, how
irrational and hateful and destructive is that point of view.
That's the best example I can get of anybody.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Mister O'Reilly. We appreciate your.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Time, sir, Thanks very much, John, I really appreciate you.
Reading the book means a lot.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
By the way, you do need a simply save home
security system, you especially, do you know that. All right,
let's go to Chucky Schumer. This is the Schumer shutdown,
and it's getting interesting, and this is Schumer attacking the
New York Times. This was maybe the funniest moment I've
ever seen on the center floor of my lifetime.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Now, when I know the leader is going to show
a poll that says that Democrats will be blamed for
the shutdown, there are many more polls that show Republicans
are blamed. The question in that poll is biased, biased
in the New York Times, but it's biased if you
turned the question.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
That's true.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
I don't always believe the New York Times.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
You can be sure of that, even you know, all
good humor is rooted in the truth. I mean, for
Shumer to claim that the New York Times is biased
against Democrats. Is beyond laughable. But he tried to make
that case. Now, let's take a trip down memory lane
(16:15):
and let's play Chucky Schumer against government shutdowns over the years.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
It's sort of like this, someone goes into your house,
takes your wife and children hostage, and then says, let's
negotiate over the price of your house. You know, we
could do the same thing on immigration. We could we
believe strongly in immigration reform. We could say we're shutting
down the government. We're not going to raise the debt
ceiling until you pass immigration reform. It would be governmental chaos.
And what if I persuaded my cause to say I'm
(16:43):
going to shut the government down, I am going to
not pay our bills unless.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I get my way.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
It's a politics of idiocy, of confrontation, of paralysis. We're
now only a week away from a government shutdown, which,
to remind my colleagues, could cost our economy thousands of
jobs and billions of dollars, as it did in twenty thirteen.
I think a government shutdown is something we desperately want
to avoid, all of us. I don't know if they
(17:11):
can pass the three week bill. We would much prefer
they do a full funding bill, but we're not going
to shut the government down. Senator McConnell wanted me to
negotiate the wall with President Trump. I said to him
two things.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
First, it's not a.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
Negotiation, no wall. And second, I said, only you can
persuade him that he shouldn't do the wall because it'll
cause a government shutdown. The White House has done nothing
but so chaos and confusion, division and disarray, and it
may just lead to a government shutdown that no one
(17:44):
wants that all of us here have been striving to avoid.
And we do not want to let a Trump temper
tantrum govern our policies or cause the shutdown of a
government which everyone on both sides of the aisles knows
is the wrong idea. Speaker McCarthy needs to stop letting
the MAGA radicals drive his decisions and do the obvious
(18:06):
and sensible thing, follow the Senate's lead and pass a
bipartisan CR to prevent this reckless shutdown. CR means continue
the government spending a shutdown. The alternative is cut off
the government spending. And here's what we would what would
happen if we cut off government spending. It would be
(18:27):
devastation like we have never seen. We're saying now much.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
And now we find ourselves in the midst of the
Schumer shutdown. Now, what changed? The only thing that has
changed and changed dramatically is the radicalization of the Democratic Party.
Chuck Schumer, like Hakem. Jeffries, is leader in name only.
(18:52):
He's not a leader. He doesn't have control of his caucus,
and he is scared to death of the radicals that
dominate his party and that they are insisting that the
government shut down. So everything he's ever stood for, every
position he's ever taken as it relates to government shutdowns,
(19:14):
is now turned upside down on its head. And it
just reeks of nothing but Schumer hypocrisy because he's got
to give in to the radicals and his party and
he's got to do what they tell him to do.
Otherwise he's so desperate he still wants to cling to
his personal, blind political ambition that will transcend any desire
(19:39):
to simply do what he believes is right.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
And that's the difference. That's what has changed. Now.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Our friend Senator Haggerty, who we like a lot on
this program, put out an ex post and said Republicans
are committed to keeping the government open with a clean,
r short term funding bill, radical left Democrats and an
a tempt to get a ridiculous Democrats now are asking
for one point five trillion dollars for a seven week
(20:08):
continuing resolution one point five trillion and a wish list
of liberal priorities, and they've now shut down the government.
That's why it's the Schumer shutdown.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Now.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
As far as I'm concerned, I don't care how long
it goes on. I feel sorry for the people that
won't get their paychecks that probably won't happen till mid October.
I would expect this is going to extend out, probably
until then, that's my best guess. And I think Democrats
are just you know, they've they've now they've now cornered
themselves and getting out of this hole they've dug is
(20:42):
going to be nearly impossible.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Uh. And this may go on for a while.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
But if they think they get one point five trillion
dollars for the insane policies that they're demanding out of
Donald Trump, they don't know Donald Trump, nor do they
know the Republican Caucus. Right now, it's not going to
happen anyway. Senator Bill Haggerty of Tennessee joins us, sir,
how are you welcome back?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Glad to have you.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
I'm great, Seawan, It's good to be back with you
as well. An interesting time. Indeed, you did a wonderful job.
That collage or trux humor statements was just fascinating. And
to hear him but they play victim to the New
York Times bias, that was just.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Too rich to That was maybe one of the best
moments I've ever seen on the Center floor.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
I was on the floor when it happened. We all
just just cracked up to hear him say that.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
But it gets back to, by the way, when even
when he started laughing because he knows it's complete bs true.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
It's so true. He was laughing as well. You're exactly right.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
All right, let's talk about how we got here, what
they're demanding, and why it's not going to happen, and
how this gets resolved eventually.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
You know, I think you hit the nail on the head.
Their party has changed dramatically. I would just add one
more thing to it. The party certainly is being run
by the radicals, and the radical left and the Democratic side.
But the elect dynamics in New York State have also changed,
and if you look at the polling, you've got a
situation where Chuck Schumer would be defeated today by AOC.
(22:10):
We're a primary election to be held. What Chuck Schumer
is trying to do, and I think this is the
root of the hypocracy, is he views this as a
test of his political manhood and if he doesn't step up,
he allows if he doesn't shut the government down, I
should say, then he's going to allow AOC. And the
radical left claim that he's taken a knee to Trump,
(22:31):
he's bowing to Trump, he's caving to Trump. That's the
argument that he's trying to avoid, and he's paining himself
into a corner in the process. So they found themselves
in an impossible situation. This is certainly not helping anybody.
You heard him go through all the reasons not to
shut the government down, Yet here we are, because this
is political theater, just so Chuck Schumer again can demonstrate
(22:51):
his political manhood to the far far left.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Of his party.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Well, I don't really see how they get out of this,
except that at some point they're going to have to capitulate.
The reason I think it goes on through mid mid October.
Correct me if I'm wrong, is that the payments to
the military of other government employees, uh, that will that money,
(23:14):
those moneys will go out forthwith and then the next
the first payment that they miss will be in mid October.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Is that about the right timing.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
I think that's that's certainly what I would put an
outer boundary on this Sean. I think that's that's exactly
the right way to think about it. But there's going
to be more intermediate pain. I think the issue here
is that Chuck Schumer is also precipitating the acceleration of
a much needed reduction in force of the federal government.
President Trump has been limited by lawsuits and by HR rules.
(23:47):
Those limitations go away in the shutdown. President Trump has
much more power to terminate programs the taxpayer should be funding,
to eliminate jobs that shouldn't be paid for, and that
precipitation is the result of Chuck's humors. Moved last night
to shut the government down. Russ Votas instructed the departments
and agencies to go ahead and have their list ready
and to start pulling the trigger. So I think what
(24:08):
you're going to start seeing is programs terminated, positions terminated
that aren't relevant anymore, and that's going to have the effect
of dramatically accelerating the reduction and size of government the
President Trump ran on. So President Trump wins either way,
is a brilliant negotiator. This is where we are, and
Chuck Schumer loses either way.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
What you're saying is is that this now opens the
door in many ways to DOSEE two point zero and
provides the president with an opportunity to eliminate unnecessary bureaucracy
in Washington.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
Then go, you nailed it. That's exactly what's going to
happen as well. And Chuck Schumer holds himself out as
the defender of the bureaucracy, but he's the one that
actually unleashed the knife.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Well, I mean, that's not necessarily the worst thing in
the world. Do you have a timetable on this. I mean,
you're in the cloak room, You're talking to Democratic senators.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
What are they saying to you?
Speaker 5 (25:08):
Well, I think there's a lot of frustration on the
Democrats side that they see Chuck doing this. I think
they realize that it's suicidal, but it has a lot
more to do, I think with New York state politics,
with his concerns about AOC potentially primary him, and as
I said earlier, were that race to happen today, AOC
would beat him. That's where the radical left has moved
that whole party, and as you said, that Democrat party
(25:31):
has changed. This is a reflection of that. But trying
to hold the nation hostage the way Chuck Schumer is
doing this right now is not going to work. The
ridiculous request a trillion, a trillion and a half dollars
keep the government open for seven weeks while we go
through the appropriations process. It's absolutely insane. So this sort
of blackmail will not work as a dead infratrumer, and
(25:54):
we'll see how long you last.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
All right, Senator Bill Haggerty of Tennessee. We appreciate your time, sir,
as always, thank you for being with us.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
Thank you, Sean always ready to be with you. Thanks.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
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The heart was always off-limits to surgeons. Cutting into it spelled instant death for the patient. That is, until a ragtag group of doctors scattered across the Midwest and Texas decided to throw out the rule book. Working in makeshift laboratories and home garages, using medical devices made from scavenged machine parts and beer tubes, these men and women invented the field of open heart surgery. Odds are, someone you know is alive because of them. So why has history left them behind? Presented by Chris Pine, CARDIAC COWBOYS tells the gripping true story behind the birth of heart surgery, and the young, Greatest Generation doctors who made it happen. For years, they competed and feuded, racing to be the first, the best, and the most prolific. Some appeared on the cover of Time Magazine, operated on kings and advised presidents. Others ended up disgraced, penniless, and convicted of felonies. Together, they ignited a revolution in medicine, and changed the world.
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.