October 31, 2025 • 28 mins
Sean Hannity leads a deep-dive into the controversy surrounding the FBIs handling of Hunter Bidens laptop, joined by special guest Bob Costello Rudy Giuliani's former attorney and a direct participant in the saga. Sean frames the discussion as part of a larger grand conspiracy involving government agencies, big tech, and the media, detailing how officials authenticated the laptop but then worked to suppress its story before the 2020 election. Costello offers firsthand details about obtaining the laptop, the verification process, FBI actions, and the broader implications for fairness and transparency in American elections. This matters because, as Sean and Bob argue, these actions may have fundamentally influenced the outcome of a presidential race and showcase a pattern of institutional bias and potential election interference.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Coming up next our final News Roundup and Information Overload Hour.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
A News round Up, Information Overload Hour this Friday. Here's
our toll free number. It's eight hundred and ninety four
one sean if you want to be a part of
this extravaganza. All right. So, Cash Patel, the FBI Director,
has talked about a grand conspiracy that really began the
moment that Donald J. Trump came down the escalator a
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Trump Tower. And it's multifaceted. It involves Hillary Clinton, top
secret classified information, bleach bit devices smashed with hammers, simcards removed,
the dirty Russian disinformation dossier that was used for for
FIZA applications. It starts getting deep in the weeds. This
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is stuff that I have covered with with an ensemble,
a small ensemble cast quite often on this program, and
I know it's very familiar to regular listeners. And the
grand conspiracy then goes on. Okay, then we have the
classified information. I discussed this with Eric Schmid earlier from
Tulsea Gabbard. They had senior career intelligence officials conclude there
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was no Trump Russia collusion. After the twenty sixteen election,
Remember that dirty dossiate. They knew that Hillary was making
it all up. They had a meeting about it. I
believe it was August of that year, and even Bruce
or was warning, you know, it's political, don't trust it,
don't trust it. And then it became the basis that
October for the first Pizon Warren. Three of the four
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signed by James comby himself, and that'spy it On Canadate Trump,
transition Team Trump, and then later President Trump. And so
that's one part of the conspiracy. Now, the reason the
conspiracy issue is important is if they do an investigation
and conclude that the merits and the evidence warrant a
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grand conspiracy not only investigation, but grand jury hearing and
likely the indictments, then the statute of limitations go away,
and then I go into Okay, Well, then Barack Obama
didn't like the career senior intelligence officials assessment, so he
ordered a new assessment, and lo and behold, they found
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Trump Russia collusion. Initially it was designed to defeat Trump.
In November twenty sixteen, then you have evidence from top
officials saying now this never happened, and then Barack Obama,
according to Tulsi Gabbert's informations, that he reordered the whole
thing to be done with a different conclusion. They didn't
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like the conclusion. Okay, part one of the conspiracy. Part
two then would be okay, the laptop from Hell. And
this is we don't spend enough time on this aspect
of it, but there's no way. So the FBI verified
the authenticity we now know definitively of Hunter Biden's zero
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Experience Hunter's laptop in March of twenty twenty. They spent
the entire summer pre bunking the contents of that very
real laptop by meeting weekly with big tech companies in
the lead up to the twenty twenty election. They knew
this laptop would be eventually leaked. How do we know that?
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Remember when Rudy Giuliani's apartment got raided, they took all
of his electronics and then he said, well what about
that one, the one with Hunter Biden's laptop on it.
They didn't want any part of it. It's an unbelievable story,
and he's since been vindicated. Now, Rudy Giuliani, you've heard
me mention his name any times I have been meaning
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to have him on It's totally negligent on my part.
He's a wickedly smart attorney. He was Rudy's attorney at
the time, and he had a copy of the laptop
and the FBI knew it. So what does that mean
they knew that this was coming out? What is the
analogy I've been using? They're putting cinderblocks on the scale
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of I'm arguing three presidential elections, fiza, Hillary gets a past,
no reasonable prosecutor or prosecute. Then the very real laptop,
it's pre bunked. Maybe Russian disinformation. They're tell them big
tech companies every week, Okay, New York Post drops the
story about Hunter's very real laptop. Then to the creditor,
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Mark Zuckerberg. Then you know, now a meta but then
a Facebook to the credit of Jack Dorsey, who was
running Twitter at the time. They called the FBI and
they asked, is this what you were warning us about?
The FBI should have corroborated its authenticity. They didn't. Why,
I would argue, because they wanted to influence the outcome
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of that election and mitigate the negative impact if America
knew what was on that laptop before they voted. In
November of twenty twenty, nobody on the face of this
earth is going to convince me that that would not
have resulted in a landslide victory for Donald Trump. So anyway,
Bob Costello is then Rudy Giuliani's attorney at the time,
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they knew you had a copy the whole time. Is
that true or false?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Sir?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Absolutely true, And so is everything that you said for
about the last two or three minutes. I agree with everything.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Okay, Then I would argue the third part of the
conspiracy is the weaponization of the Justice Department and going
after Trump to make him unelectable in twenty twenty four,
and Arctic frost didn't start till three days after Trump
announced that he was running. Now, all of this we
now have, you know, all the evidence to back all
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of this up, Bob, But you know then the indictments
we're seeing, you know, Look, James Comey is a perfect
case in point to me, Lyon the Congress is low
hanging fruit. And that was only because he did it
years later, and it's still within the statute limitations. I
think they made it by less than a week. So
take us through your side of the story. Hey, explain
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how the FBI knew you had a copy of this.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Well, I got a copy of it in the end
of August of twenty twenty, and I got it from
John Paul MCGEAAC. And that only came about because I
started to receive representing Rudy Giuliani. I started to receive
death threats and crazy phone calls because a certain reporter
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leaked my cell phone information and my email information. As
a result of that, I contacted Rudy's private secretary and
I said, told her, if I've gotten a few of
these death threats, Rudy must get a thousand of them.
She said, oh, yeah, they come in every day by email.
I said, well, what do you do with them? She said,
I take a quick look and throw them in the garbage,
because almost all of these people are crazy. So I
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said to her, listen, from now on, instead of throwing
in the garbage, send them over to me. Let me
take a last look at it. She did. The next day,
I'm going through that pile and I come up with
an email from John Paul mcguy's claiming that he has
Hunter Biden's hard drive, and so I contacted him immediately
because he didn't sound like a nut.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
And I actually a very nice man whose life was ruined.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Absolutely, and I didn't know at the time that I
first contacted him that the guy is legally blind. So
I contact him and I say, if you have this
thing legally and it hasn't been tampered with, we're very interested.
We immediately start telephoning one another, and he explains to
me how he received the Hunter Biden hard drive and
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that he's got records that substantiate that because Hunter Biden
filled out a work order and signed it, and subsequent
to that the FBI he first when he got it,
Hunter didn't pick it up after ninety days, and it
says on the work order it becomes the property of
the Mac store. That was the store that mister mcguiasa call.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
And the Hunter brought it for the record, Hunter brought
it in himself and signed that document.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Yes he did.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
So.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Now it's probably ten eleven months after that event that
I get it. But before I get it, it turns
out when I said to John Paul mc isaac, you know,
how do I know that this is authentic, he sent
me a copy of a subpoena Douce has taken from
the District of Delaware as well as an FBI receipt
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of property form signed by two FBI agents, and the
work order that Hunter Biden had filled out which had
his signature. Well, now I have the laptop, not the laptop,
the hard drive, and I'm looking at it, and it's
got photographs of the Delaware driver's licenses Washington DC driver's
license which have his picture and his signature, and I
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look at the signature on both of those documents. I
look at the signature on the work order for the
mac isaac materials and it matches up. So I become
convinced that what I have is the real deal. And
mcguiyasick tells me that he has legitimately and has they
explained how he has it, and then I contact Rudy Juliani.
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Now in between then, as you've noted, Rudy Juliani's apartment
as office had been the subject of a search warrant,
but it wasn't until maybe a year and a half
after that that we found out that there was an
earlier search warrant which was still in effect on his
iCloud account. So when I'm communicating with Juliani right about
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the time that I get the Hunter Biden hard drive.
I'm communicating, and it's gone through Rudy's iCloud account, and
the FBI has a search warrant. I assume it was
the FBI. We never saw it has a search warrant
on that iCloud account, so they're aware of the fact. Oh,
Juliani's lawyer Costello has a copy of the Hunter Biden
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hard drive, the same hard drive that the FBI seven
months prior to that had authenticate it. But they kept
their mouth shut. They didn't tell anybody they had the
Hunter Biden's hard drive. So when the fifthifty one people,
you remember fifty one, I think.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
CIA fifty one former Intel officials, all by the way
at the behest. According to reports of Lincoln, Tony Blinkett,
mere coincidence.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
No, no, well, I'll tell you another Coincidencen Tony Blinken
is also on the Hunter Biden hard drive, arranging for
Hunter Biden to come and visit him at the Department
of State, but making sure that Hunter Biden is going
to enter through the diplomatic entrance. Why the diplomatic entrance,
because they don't keep a record at the diplomatic entrance
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of anybody that's coming to visit people in the State Department.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
That's a tidbit I'd never heard before. Thank you for sharing.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
It's on a hard drive. I can back it up. Now.
Why would Tony Blinkin try to hide the fact that
the then vice president's son is coming to visit him
in the State Department. You'll have to ask Tony Blinkin
that someday. In any event, getting back to the story,
the FBI knew that the Hunter Biden laptop was in
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our possession and knew that it was authentic by the
time that I call Rudy to tell him I have
Hunter Biden's hard drive, and they were putting out stories
through every media outlet they could that we have reliable
information that you're going to receive some Hunter Biden material
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that has all of the aspects of Russian disinformation. Now,
do I sound like a Russian agent to you? Does
Rudy Giuliani sound like a Russian agent?
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Okay, you're both Pattriots'. That's a crock of you know what.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Absolutely, they knew I was going to give it to
Rudy and that eventually it would go to the press
and that and it did. I mean, I sat with
the people from the New York Post many days in
my home, showing them the Hunter Biden hard drive, showing
them why I thought, by the.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Way, isn't ever a terrific Yes, she used to work
on my show. That's why I'm saying that I was
that right.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
I didn't know that she was in my living room
a number of times. And that's how finally it got
printed in the New York Post that we had Hunter
Biden's hard drive, which is of course the brains of
his laptop.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
So they knew the entire time, Bob that they was
going to get out. They knew it, so that then
if it's they ought, they verified its authenticity. Let's give
a timeline March of twenty twenty. Then they spend the
whole summer of twenty twenty in the lead up to
the election, meeting weekly, which is unheard of, with all
these big social media companies, big tech companies, warning them
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that they are likely going to be victims of a
Russian disinformation campaign and the lead up to the election,
and they're going hard in the paint to scare the
crap out of them, and they've got to be careful.
They don't want to tip the election. And anybody wasn's favor.
But they did it with an agenda, didn't they.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Oh? Absolutely, because at the time that this is all happening,
as you said, the FBI was well aware of the
fact that we had a copy of the hard Drug,
that it had been authenticated, that all the material on
there was legitimate, that is, it hadn't been tampered with,
and that it told a very torred retail of not
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just Hunter Biden, but Joe Biden and other members of
the Biden family, involving Ukraine and Russia and cocaine and
ladies of the night, all sorts of stuff like that
which we need.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
And loaded guns, loaded guns right. Oh, and implicating Pops. Oh,
half my income goes to Pops. Oh, which accounts did
I used to pay for pops home repairs? The money
he's making for Ukraine. Remember he did go on He
did go on Good Morning America and admit he had
no experience and energy, oil gas Ukraine and was being
paid millions of dollars to work on that board for Barisma.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Yeah, just a little bit over. He not only him,
but Devin Archer who was then his partner. So the
two of them, which they were partners with Hines. He
was I think the what's the correct term John Kerry's
steps on Christopher Hines I think was his first name.
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But he eventually backed out. He saw the writing on
the wall smartly and backed out. But Hunter, Biden, and
Devin Archer each were making over slightly over a million
dollars a year to sit on a board that they
had no experience with.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
You know, well, I don't want to rush through this.
I have a couple more questions. If you have time,
what do you charge it hour? It's an insane amount.
I mean, Bob Coustell was a great attorney, But I'd
like to ask you a couple more questions, just to
clarify this so people really understand it, because you were
right in the middle of this the whole time, and
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I want to know what pressure might have been brought
to bear on you. And we know they were going
after Rudy with bo barrels. They're going after him hard.
Quick break more with Bob Costell. He was then Rudy
Giuliani's attorney. The FBI knew he had a copy of
Hunter's laptop, They knew it was going to be made public.
They went out all so are pre bunking it. If
that's not putting cinder blocks on the scale of an election,
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If that's not the deep state I've been talking about
for the last ten years, I don't know what is
all right. Bob Costello is with us. He used to
be Rudy Giuliani's attorney. He was the attorney at the
time that they were going after Rudy very very hard.
He was you know. Also, you know we've gone through
the whole timeline of zero experience Hunter and the laptop
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and he brings this laptop to this lap laptop repair
shop run by John Paul Mack. Isaac is a great guy.
We've interviewed him a number of times. And this poor
guy's life was ruined, his business shut down. It's awful
what they did to him, and how the FBI verified
its authenticity in March of twenty twenty, and then they
went about they did something unprecedented. They started me meeting
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weekly with big tech companies. I argue pre bunking the
very real laptop this was to prevent the American people
from having critical information and the lead up to a
very critical election. I think it would have had a
massive impact. I really have just a couple more questions
for you. One, what about these fifty one Intel officials.
They knew nothing, Bob. They didn't know what you.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Knew, absolutely, And not only were they guilty of making
false statements to the American public, but the FBI was
as well, because they knew that the laptop was authentic,
and they knew that they had verified it themselves, and
they sat silently while those fifty one people said what
they said, which was all false. And then Joe Biden
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adopted what they said during his debate with Donald Trump.
That's election interference.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Absolutely at the highest level. Here's the worst part. And
I got asked this question all the time. How come
nobody had been held account for this, Sean, don't Bob,
I don't have a good answer.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Well, I think it's coming. I think the day of
on ability is coming. And I think all of these
people right now you have this arctic frust exercise, which
is exactly what they did to these eight Republican senators
and one Republican congressman. Quite coincidentally, all Republicans. They had
done to me about six months before that, when I
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was representing Steve Bennett. They did the exact same thing.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
And by the way, we learned from Truck Grassley this
week that they did it to four hundred and thirty
individuals and entities. They were subpoena They put out subpoenas
for communications records, banking records. There's no predicate for such
a warrant like that. They didn't go about it the
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way that I understand a warrant. You go about getting
a warren is that the way you get a warrant?
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Well, no, this isn't a search warrant. What they did
was this is the Stored Communications Act, and they obtained
this the material that they obtained through subpoenas. But they
violated all the principles of the Department of Justice, which
is that the Department of Justice exists and the FBI
exists to study and investigate crimes, not to study and
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investigate individuals, which is what this is, which violates their
rights of privacy. I mean, do you think it's coincidental
that all of the senators that they went after are Republicans?
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Of course not.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Do you think that it's coincidental, by the way, that
the same prosecutors that went after my same material when
I was representing Steve Bannon then moved over to Jack
Smith's committee. I'm talking about JP Cooney and Molly Gaston.
Those two were the ones who did it to me.
We complained to the judge, We made a motion for
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sanctions to the judge, and the judge has sat on
that even until today, there's been no decision on that yet.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Okay, let me ask the over to Jack Smith's A
million dollar question, how do all these people now? Cash
is the one that talked about the Grand Conspiracy. I
gave part one. I laid that out about Hillary and
the Faisa Warrens, and you know, no reasonable prosecutor would
prosecute top secret classified information what they knew when they
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knew it now the newly declassified information, Tulsey, this is
twenty twenty, So the conspiracy continues. I would argue from
twenty twenty through twenty twenty four, especially now what we're
learning through about arctic frost, that they then used the
process of weaponization of the Justice Department to go after Trump.
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And for example, take a case of a legal nda
and whose statutal limitations had expired, which was which is
a misdemeanor in New York. Correct me if I'm wrong
at any point at any time and turn it into
thirty four felony counts with a novel legal theory that
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nobody had ever imagined before, and have another judge in
a civil case, you know, value mar Lago at eighteen
million and not allowed professionals to even testify because it's
worth a billion five.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
You're completely correct. None of this passes the red face test.
These people should have been embarrassed to present materials like
that to any court, but unfortunately they got courts that
bent over backwards for them and really disregarded their obligations
to be fair to both sides. And you know, Donald
Trump's criminal conviction is absurd. It will certainly get overturned
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on appeal. Judge m Goren's judgment for what five hundred
million dollars?
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Gosh, I just I shudder to think. You know this
all happened in our country. I really do. And the
worst part is unless there is a grand conspiracy investigation. Again,
Cash Bettel was the first I heard to bring it up.
There's no way to hold these people accountable at this
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point because the statute of limitations.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Are run out exactly right, I mean.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Okay, I'm going to call me do I think he
lied before Congress. I think there's a prima Phacia case
that would indicate he might have. And you know the
same with Brennan. I would expect that something that's probably
going to happen with him. But Bob, that's not the
real that's the low hanging fruit, you know, it's it
doesn't get to the core of corruption that I believe
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that took place here. Am I wrong in believing cinder
blocks of an election, on the scales of an election
were used.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
No, you're totally right. But here's what's going to happen.
They're going to pick the low hanging fruit and get
some of these people to flip, which is just a
prosecutor's parlance for cooperate, and they're going to cooperate up
the chain to say, I know that you did this
particular act, but who directed you to do it and why?
And when they get the answers to those questions, they'll
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move up the chain and they will get to the
top on this because you can tell that the people
that put in place are dedicated to getting to the
bottom of all of this, into making people pay the
right price for what they did.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
All right, Bob, Costello. You're a really smart lawyer and
gutsy too, because you knew having that laptop in your possession,
you knew that you were a target. Rudy knew he
was a target. And I'm sure you had a lot
of sleep those night's over it. We appreciate you sharing
all this information with us. Thank you very much, sir.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
You're quite welcome. Keep up the good work, Sean, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Buy eight ninety four one, Shawn our number. You want
to be a part of the program. John in Connecticut,
what's up, John, Harry? You glad you called.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Thank you Seans for taking my call. Last night. I
was watching your town hall meeting. It was a great show.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Oh, thank you. It's a real possibility, very deep blue
New Jersey. Could you imagine hearing the words Box News
could now project that New Jersey as elected Republican Jack
really to be the next governor.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Wow, I could listen to it. I used to live
in the Bronx. I had to get out of the Bronx.
Unfortunately I moved to Connecticut anyway, Sean. The reason for
my call is then I turned on fucked the business station,
the regular station, and they say Chervyl has increased to
lead by two points. It's now out of the margin
of era. They never quote any of the polls, and
(23:23):
I don't understand why, Chris. Their poles seem to be
just as bad as CNN and MSNBC, And I don't oh.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Robert Kaheley addressed this last night. Just look at the
people that were right. Robert Kaheley, Matt Terwry nailed twenty sixteen,
twenty twenty, and twenty twenty four in their polling. They're
really good at what they do. Then you have you
know Emerson had a great year in twenty twenty four.
They have it all. There's four polls combined with those
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three that have this at one point race. So what
does that mean to me? If you're in New Jersey?
What does it mean to me? What message do I
want to send you? This is real and assume that
your vote will be the deciding vote in New Jersey
and that there is You're not wasting your time. You
are not. I can't guarantee a win. It's very hard
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for a Republican to win in a deep blue state
like New Jersey. But I think the time might be perfect.
How Ironica would be on election night if you know,
comrade Marxist Mamdanni won in New York City and New
Jersey went red. Wow, wouldn't that be cool?
Speaker 3 (24:31):
And I'm so I'm so glad that I'm not in
New York City right now.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yeah, I bet you are. John. We appreciate you, man.
Thank you all right, eight hundred ninety four one. Shawn
is on number if you want to be a part
of the program. Larry in Michigan. What's up, Larry? How
are you glad you called?
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (24:49):
Sean longtime twenty five year listener.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Wow, thank you very much. It means a lot to
me for first time caller.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
I have. I had one question and one point My
question is with the federal shutdown and the federal employees
that are going to get back pay, is that back
pay going to put them into a higher tax bracket
to where all of their money earned is in one
lump sum.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Now, that wouldn't put you in because it's annualized in
terms of you're just getting back pay. I mean, it's
like you got your regular paycheck, except you know you
had to suffer without it for a while.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Understood. And then my second point, Seawan, is you were
dead on accurate when you came out and said Obamacare
was a complete disaster from day one. And now the
Democrats hypocrisy is coming through saying the insurance premiums are
going to be going up. They're the cause of it
because they created this disaster.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
They had this, they had this increase built in. Remember
at the time, I said, imagine a funnel. And what
they originally plan to do is funnel every American into
the system that you'd be forced to Remember, if you
didn't have your own insurance, you were going to be
forced to buy Obamacare. And Trump fixed that in his
first term. So you know that's why I you know,
(26:14):
i'd say eight eight eight, ease one two three. You
owe it to yourself. There are good plans out there
that are alternatives. It's a disaster, and actually the President
of this week said that it would be a good
idea to work together and come up with a new system.
We definitely need one. It's got to be free market oriented,
it's got to be competition oriented, and otherwise it's a disaster.
(26:37):
Government doesn't run many things. Well, how's your school system
has law and order, safety, security? You know, run through
the list. They don't. Where's the Social Security lock box?
These people promise everything and they steal everything. It pisses
me off. You get why are you getting me mad
on a Friday? Why are you doing that? I want
to relax and enjoy my weekend.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Sean, you were a great American, and for many years
I been told that I look like.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
You, and I actually sound like you. So just know
that you have more than enough support.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
I was at a football game last weekend, at a
college football game, and a guy turns around and he's
kind of got a nice little shine on if you will,
and goes, man, you look like Sean Hannity. Because then
he look like Sean Hannity goes to his friend and
I'm like, you know what. Another guy said that to
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me like five minutes ago. I'm like, really, I look
like I watched the guy. Do you do you like him?
I love him? I said, I'm Sean Hannity. It was
pretty funny. Listen, Larry twenty five years. I am so
grateful you let me do this job. I really am.
You have a great weekend with your family.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Okay, thank you, sir.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
All right, thought it's gonna wrap things up for this
Halloween Friday, okay, go out, teach your little children to
go beg for free stuff, and remind them tomorrow that
not everything in life is free. Have a great, great weekend.
We will see you back here Monday. Thank you for
making the show possible.
Coming up next our final News Roundup and Information Overload Hour.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
A News round Up, Information Overload Hour this Friday. Here's
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one sean if you want to be a part of
this extravaganza. All right. So, Cash Patel, the FBI Director,
has talked about a grand conspiracy that really began the
moment that Donald J. Trump came down the escalator a
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Trump Tower. And it's multifaceted. It involves Hillary Clinton, top
secret classified information, bleach bit devices smashed with hammers, simcards removed,
the dirty Russian disinformation dossier that was used for for
FIZA applications. It starts getting deep in the weeds. This
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is stuff that I have covered with with an ensemble,
a small ensemble cast quite often on this program, and
I know it's very familiar to regular listeners. And the
grand conspiracy then goes on. Okay, then we have the
classified information. I discussed this with Eric Schmid earlier from
Tulsea Gabbard. They had senior career intelligence officials conclude there
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was no Trump Russia collusion. After the twenty sixteen election,
Remember that dirty dossiate. They knew that Hillary was making
it all up. They had a meeting about it. I
believe it was August of that year, and even Bruce
or was warning, you know, it's political, don't trust it,
don't trust it. And then it became the basis that
October for the first Pizon Warren. Three of the four
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signed by James comby himself, and that'spy it On Canadate Trump,
transition Team Trump, and then later President Trump. And so
that's one part of the conspiracy. Now, the reason the
conspiracy issue is important is if they do an investigation
and conclude that the merits and the evidence warrant a
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grand conspiracy not only investigation, but grand jury hearing and
likely the indictments, then the statute of limitations go away,
and then I go into Okay, Well, then Barack Obama
didn't like the career senior intelligence officials assessment, so he
ordered a new assessment, and lo and behold, they found
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Trump Russia collusion. Initially it was designed to defeat Trump.
In November twenty sixteen, then you have evidence from top
officials saying now this never happened, and then Barack Obama,
according to Tulsi Gabbert's informations, that he reordered the whole
thing to be done with a different conclusion. They didn't
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like the conclusion. Okay, part one of the conspiracy. Part
two then would be okay, the laptop from Hell. And
this is we don't spend enough time on this aspect
of it, but there's no way. So the FBI verified
the authenticity we now know definitively of Hunter Biden's zero
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Experience Hunter's laptop in March of twenty twenty. They spent
the entire summer pre bunking the contents of that very
real laptop by meeting weekly with big tech companies in
the lead up to the twenty twenty election. They knew
this laptop would be eventually leaked. How do we know that?
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Remember when Rudy Giuliani's apartment got raided, they took all
of his electronics and then he said, well what about
that one, the one with Hunter Biden's laptop on it.
They didn't want any part of it. It's an unbelievable story,
and he's since been vindicated. Now, Rudy Giuliani, you've heard
me mention his name any times I have been meaning
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to have him on It's totally negligent on my part.
He's a wickedly smart attorney. He was Rudy's attorney at
the time, and he had a copy of the laptop
and the FBI knew it. So what does that mean
they knew that this was coming out? What is the
analogy I've been using? They're putting cinderblocks on the scale
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of I'm arguing three presidential elections, fiza, Hillary gets a past,
no reasonable prosecutor or prosecute. Then the very real laptop,
it's pre bunked. Maybe Russian disinformation. They're tell them big
tech companies every week, Okay, New York Post drops the
story about Hunter's very real laptop. Then to the creditor,
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Mark Zuckerberg. Then you know, now a meta but then
a Facebook to the credit of Jack Dorsey, who was
running Twitter at the time. They called the FBI and
they asked, is this what you were warning us about?
The FBI should have corroborated its authenticity. They didn't. Why,
I would argue, because they wanted to influence the outcome
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of that election and mitigate the negative impact if America
knew what was on that laptop before they voted. In
November of twenty twenty, nobody on the face of this
earth is going to convince me that that would not
have resulted in a landslide victory for Donald Trump. So anyway,
Bob Costello is then Rudy Giuliani's attorney at the time,
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they knew you had a copy the whole time. Is
that true or false?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Sir?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Absolutely true, And so is everything that you said for
about the last two or three minutes. I agree with everything.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Okay, Then I would argue the third part of the
conspiracy is the weaponization of the Justice Department and going
after Trump to make him unelectable in twenty twenty four,
and Arctic frost didn't start till three days after Trump
announced that he was running. Now, all of this we
now have, you know, all the evidence to back all
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of this up, Bob, But you know then the indictments
we're seeing, you know, Look, James Comey is a perfect
case in point to me, Lyon the Congress is low
hanging fruit. And that was only because he did it
years later, and it's still within the statute limitations. I
think they made it by less than a week. So
take us through your side of the story. Hey, explain
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how the FBI knew you had a copy of this.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Well, I got a copy of it in the end
of August of twenty twenty, and I got it from
John Paul MCGEAAC. And that only came about because I
started to receive representing Rudy Giuliani. I started to receive
death threats and crazy phone calls because a certain reporter
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leaked my cell phone information and my email information. As
a result of that, I contacted Rudy's private secretary and
I said, told her, if I've gotten a few of
these death threats, Rudy must get a thousand of them.
She said, oh, yeah, they come in every day by email.
I said, well, what do you do with them? She said,
I take a quick look and throw them in the garbage,
because almost all of these people are crazy. So I
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said to her, listen, from now on, instead of throwing
in the garbage, send them over to me. Let me
take a last look at it. She did. The next day,
I'm going through that pile and I come up with
an email from John Paul mcguy's claiming that he has
Hunter Biden's hard drive, and so I contacted him immediately
because he didn't sound like a nut.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
And I actually a very nice man whose life was ruined.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Absolutely, and I didn't know at the time that I
first contacted him that the guy is legally blind. So
I contact him and I say, if you have this
thing legally and it hasn't been tampered with, we're very interested.
We immediately start telephoning one another, and he explains to
me how he received the Hunter Biden hard drive and
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that he's got records that substantiate that because Hunter Biden
filled out a work order and signed it, and subsequent
to that the FBI he first when he got it,
Hunter didn't pick it up after ninety days, and it
says on the work order it becomes the property of
the Mac store. That was the store that mister mcguiasa call.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
And the Hunter brought it for the record, Hunter brought
it in himself and signed that document.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Yes he did.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
So.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Now it's probably ten eleven months after that event that
I get it. But before I get it, it turns
out when I said to John Paul mc isaac, you know,
how do I know that this is authentic, he sent
me a copy of a subpoena Douce has taken from
the District of Delaware as well as an FBI receipt
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of property form signed by two FBI agents, and the
work order that Hunter Biden had filled out which had
his signature. Well, now I have the laptop, not the laptop,
the hard drive, and I'm looking at it, and it's
got photographs of the Delaware driver's licenses Washington DC driver's
license which have his picture and his signature, and I
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look at the signature on both of those documents. I
look at the signature on the work order for the
mac isaac materials and it matches up. So I become
convinced that what I have is the real deal. And
mcguiyasick tells me that he has legitimately and has they
explained how he has it, and then I contact Rudy Juliani.
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Now in between then, as you've noted, Rudy Juliani's apartment
as office had been the subject of a search warrant,
but it wasn't until maybe a year and a half
after that that we found out that there was an
earlier search warrant which was still in effect on his
iCloud account. So when I'm communicating with Juliani right about
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the time that I get the Hunter Biden hard drive.
I'm communicating, and it's gone through Rudy's iCloud account, and
the FBI has a search warrant. I assume it was
the FBI. We never saw it has a search warrant
on that iCloud account, so they're aware of the fact. Oh,
Juliani's lawyer Costello has a copy of the Hunter Biden
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hard drive, the same hard drive that the FBI seven
months prior to that had authenticate it. But they kept
their mouth shut. They didn't tell anybody they had the
Hunter Biden's hard drive. So when the fifthifty one people,
you remember fifty one, I think.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
CIA fifty one former Intel officials, all by the way
at the behest. According to reports of Lincoln, Tony Blinkett,
mere coincidence.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
No, no, well, I'll tell you another Coincidencen Tony Blinken
is also on the Hunter Biden hard drive, arranging for
Hunter Biden to come and visit him at the Department
of State, but making sure that Hunter Biden is going
to enter through the diplomatic entrance. Why the diplomatic entrance,
because they don't keep a record at the diplomatic entrance
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of anybody that's coming to visit people in the State Department.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
That's a tidbit I'd never heard before. Thank you for sharing.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
It's on a hard drive. I can back it up. Now.
Why would Tony Blinkin try to hide the fact that
the then vice president's son is coming to visit him
in the State Department. You'll have to ask Tony Blinkin
that someday. In any event, getting back to the story,
the FBI knew that the Hunter Biden laptop was in
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our possession and knew that it was authentic by the
time that I call Rudy to tell him I have
Hunter Biden's hard drive, and they were putting out stories
through every media outlet they could that we have reliable
information that you're going to receive some Hunter Biden material
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that has all of the aspects of Russian disinformation. Now,
do I sound like a Russian agent to you? Does
Rudy Giuliani sound like a Russian agent?
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Okay, you're both Pattriots'. That's a crock of you know what.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Absolutely, they knew I was going to give it to
Rudy and that eventually it would go to the press
and that and it did. I mean, I sat with
the people from the New York Post many days in
my home, showing them the Hunter Biden hard drive, showing
them why I thought, by the.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Way, isn't ever a terrific Yes, she used to work
on my show. That's why I'm saying that I was
that right.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
I didn't know that she was in my living room
a number of times. And that's how finally it got
printed in the New York Post that we had Hunter
Biden's hard drive, which is of course the brains of
his laptop.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
So they knew the entire time, Bob that they was
going to get out. They knew it, so that then
if it's they ought, they verified its authenticity. Let's give
a timeline March of twenty twenty. Then they spend the
whole summer of twenty twenty in the lead up to
the election, meeting weekly, which is unheard of, with all
these big social media companies, big tech companies, warning them
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that they are likely going to be victims of a
Russian disinformation campaign and the lead up to the election,
and they're going hard in the paint to scare the
crap out of them, and they've got to be careful.
They don't want to tip the election. And anybody wasn's favor.
But they did it with an agenda, didn't they.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Oh? Absolutely, because at the time that this is all happening,
as you said, the FBI was well aware of the
fact that we had a copy of the hard Drug,
that it had been authenticated, that all the material on
there was legitimate, that is, it hadn't been tampered with,
and that it told a very torred retail of not
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just Hunter Biden, but Joe Biden and other members of
the Biden family, involving Ukraine and Russia and cocaine and
ladies of the night, all sorts of stuff like that
which we need.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
And loaded guns, loaded guns right. Oh, and implicating Pops. Oh,
half my income goes to Pops. Oh, which accounts did
I used to pay for pops home repairs? The money
he's making for Ukraine. Remember he did go on He
did go on Good Morning America and admit he had
no experience and energy, oil gas Ukraine and was being
paid millions of dollars to work on that board for Barisma.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Yeah, just a little bit over. He not only him,
but Devin Archer who was then his partner. So the
two of them, which they were partners with Hines. He
was I think the what's the correct term John Kerry's
steps on Christopher Hines I think was his first name.
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But he eventually backed out. He saw the writing on
the wall smartly and backed out. But Hunter, Biden, and
Devin Archer each were making over slightly over a million
dollars a year to sit on a board that they
had no experience with.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
You know, well, I don't want to rush through this.
I have a couple more questions. If you have time,
what do you charge it hour? It's an insane amount.
I mean, Bob Coustell was a great attorney, But I'd
like to ask you a couple more questions, just to
clarify this so people really understand it, because you were
right in the middle of this the whole time, and
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I want to know what pressure might have been brought
to bear on you. And we know they were going
after Rudy with bo barrels. They're going after him hard.
Quick break more with Bob Costell. He was then Rudy
Giuliani's attorney. The FBI knew he had a copy of
Hunter's laptop, They knew it was going to be made public.
They went out all so are pre bunking it. If
that's not putting cinder blocks on the scale of an election,
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If that's not the deep state I've been talking about
for the last ten years, I don't know what is
all right. Bob Costello is with us. He used to
be Rudy Giuliani's attorney. He was the attorney at the
time that they were going after Rudy very very hard.
He was you know. Also, you know we've gone through
the whole timeline of zero experience Hunter and the laptop
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and he brings this laptop to this lap laptop repair
shop run by John Paul Mack. Isaac is a great guy.
We've interviewed him a number of times. And this poor
guy's life was ruined, his business shut down. It's awful
what they did to him, and how the FBI verified
its authenticity in March of twenty twenty, and then they
went about they did something unprecedented. They started me meeting
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weekly with big tech companies. I argue pre bunking the
very real laptop this was to prevent the American people
from having critical information and the lead up to a
very critical election. I think it would have had a
massive impact. I really have just a couple more questions
for you. One, what about these fifty one Intel officials.
They knew nothing, Bob. They didn't know what you.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Knew, absolutely, And not only were they guilty of making
false statements to the American public, but the FBI was
as well, because they knew that the laptop was authentic,
and they knew that they had verified it themselves, and
they sat silently while those fifty one people said what
they said, which was all false. And then Joe Biden
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adopted what they said during his debate with Donald Trump.
That's election interference.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Absolutely at the highest level. Here's the worst part. And
I got asked this question all the time. How come
nobody had been held account for this, Sean, don't Bob,
I don't have a good answer.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Well, I think it's coming. I think the day of
on ability is coming. And I think all of these
people right now you have this arctic frust exercise, which
is exactly what they did to these eight Republican senators
and one Republican congressman. Quite coincidentally, all Republicans. They had
done to me about six months before that, when I
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was representing Steve Bennett. They did the exact same thing.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
And by the way, we learned from Truck Grassley this
week that they did it to four hundred and thirty
individuals and entities. They were subpoena They put out subpoenas
for communications records, banking records. There's no predicate for such
a warrant like that. They didn't go about it the
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way that I understand a warrant. You go about getting
a warren is that the way you get a warrant?
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Well, no, this isn't a search warrant. What they did
was this is the Stored Communications Act, and they obtained
this the material that they obtained through subpoenas. But they
violated all the principles of the Department of Justice, which
is that the Department of Justice exists and the FBI
exists to study and investigate crimes, not to study and
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investigate individuals, which is what this is, which violates their
rights of privacy. I mean, do you think it's coincidental
that all of the senators that they went after are Republicans?
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Of course not.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Do you think that it's coincidental, by the way, that
the same prosecutors that went after my same material when
I was representing Steve Bannon then moved over to Jack
Smith's committee. I'm talking about JP Cooney and Molly Gaston.
Those two were the ones who did it to me.
We complained to the judge, We made a motion for
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sanctions to the judge, and the judge has sat on
that even until today, there's been no decision on that yet.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Okay, let me ask the over to Jack Smith's A
million dollar question, how do all these people now? Cash
is the one that talked about the Grand Conspiracy. I
gave part one. I laid that out about Hillary and
the Faisa Warrens, and you know, no reasonable prosecutor would
prosecute top secret classified information what they knew when they
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knew it now the newly declassified information, Tulsey, this is
twenty twenty, So the conspiracy continues. I would argue from
twenty twenty through twenty twenty four, especially now what we're
learning through about arctic frost, that they then used the
process of weaponization of the Justice Department to go after Trump.
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And for example, take a case of a legal nda
and whose statutal limitations had expired, which was which is
a misdemeanor in New York. Correct me if I'm wrong
at any point at any time and turn it into
thirty four felony counts with a novel legal theory that
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nobody had ever imagined before, and have another judge in
a civil case, you know, value mar Lago at eighteen
million and not allowed professionals to even testify because it's
worth a billion five.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
You're completely correct. None of this passes the red face test.
These people should have been embarrassed to present materials like
that to any court, but unfortunately they got courts that
bent over backwards for them and really disregarded their obligations
to be fair to both sides. And you know, Donald
Trump's criminal conviction is absurd. It will certainly get overturned
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on appeal. Judge m Goren's judgment for what five hundred
million dollars?
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Gosh, I just I shudder to think. You know this
all happened in our country. I really do. And the
worst part is unless there is a grand conspiracy investigation. Again,
Cash Bettel was the first I heard to bring it up.
There's no way to hold these people accountable at this
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point because the statute of limitations.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Are run out exactly right, I mean.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Okay, I'm going to call me do I think he
lied before Congress. I think there's a prima Phacia case
that would indicate he might have. And you know the
same with Brennan. I would expect that something that's probably
going to happen with him. But Bob, that's not the
real that's the low hanging fruit, you know, it's it
doesn't get to the core of corruption that I believe
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that took place here. Am I wrong in believing cinder
blocks of an election, on the scales of an election
were used.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
No, you're totally right. But here's what's going to happen.
They're going to pick the low hanging fruit and get
some of these people to flip, which is just a
prosecutor's parlance for cooperate, and they're going to cooperate up
the chain to say, I know that you did this
particular act, but who directed you to do it and why?
And when they get the answers to those questions, they'll
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move up the chain and they will get to the
top on this because you can tell that the people
that put in place are dedicated to getting to the
bottom of all of this, into making people pay the
right price for what they did.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
All right, Bob, Costello. You're a really smart lawyer and
gutsy too, because you knew having that laptop in your possession,
you knew that you were a target. Rudy knew he
was a target. And I'm sure you had a lot
of sleep those night's over it. We appreciate you sharing
all this information with us. Thank you very much, sir.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
You're quite welcome. Keep up the good work, Sean, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Buy eight ninety four one, Shawn our number. You want
to be a part of the program. John in Connecticut,
what's up, John, Harry? You glad you called.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Thank you Seans for taking my call. Last night. I
was watching your town hall meeting. It was a great show.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Oh, thank you. It's a real possibility, very deep blue
New Jersey. Could you imagine hearing the words Box News
could now project that New Jersey as elected Republican Jack
really to be the next governor.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Wow, I could listen to it. I used to live
in the Bronx. I had to get out of the Bronx.
Unfortunately I moved to Connecticut anyway, Sean. The reason for
my call is then I turned on fucked the business station,
the regular station, and they say Chervyl has increased to
lead by two points. It's now out of the margin
of era. They never quote any of the polls, and
(23:23):
I don't understand why, Chris. Their poles seem to be
just as bad as CNN and MSNBC, And I don't oh.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Robert Kaheley addressed this last night. Just look at the
people that were right. Robert Kaheley, Matt Terwry nailed twenty sixteen,
twenty twenty, and twenty twenty four in their polling. They're
really good at what they do. Then you have you
know Emerson had a great year in twenty twenty four.
They have it all. There's four polls combined with those
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three that have this at one point race. So what
does that mean to me? If you're in New Jersey?
What does it mean to me? What message do I
want to send you? This is real and assume that
your vote will be the deciding vote in New Jersey
and that there is You're not wasting your time. You
are not. I can't guarantee a win. It's very hard
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for a Republican to win in a deep blue state
like New Jersey. But I think the time might be perfect.
How Ironica would be on election night if you know,
comrade Marxist Mamdanni won in New York City and New
Jersey went red. Wow, wouldn't that be cool?
Speaker 3 (24:31):
And I'm so I'm so glad that I'm not in
New York City right now.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yeah, I bet you are. John. We appreciate you, man.
Thank you all right, eight hundred ninety four one. Shawn
is on number if you want to be a part
of the program. Larry in Michigan. What's up, Larry? How
are you glad you called?
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (24:49):
Sean longtime twenty five year listener.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Wow, thank you very much. It means a lot to
me for first time caller.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
I have. I had one question and one point My
question is with the federal shutdown and the federal employees
that are going to get back pay, is that back
pay going to put them into a higher tax bracket
to where all of their money earned is in one
lump sum.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Now, that wouldn't put you in because it's annualized in
terms of you're just getting back pay. I mean, it's
like you got your regular paycheck, except you know you
had to suffer without it for a while.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Understood. And then my second point, Seawan, is you were
dead on accurate when you came out and said Obamacare
was a complete disaster from day one. And now the
Democrats hypocrisy is coming through saying the insurance premiums are
going to be going up. They're the cause of it
because they created this disaster.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
They had this, they had this increase built in. Remember
at the time, I said, imagine a funnel. And what
they originally plan to do is funnel every American into
the system that you'd be forced to Remember, if you
didn't have your own insurance, you were going to be
forced to buy Obamacare. And Trump fixed that in his
first term. So you know that's why I you know,
(26:14):
i'd say eight eight eight, ease one two three. You
owe it to yourself. There are good plans out there
that are alternatives. It's a disaster, and actually the President
of this week said that it would be a good
idea to work together and come up with a new system.
We definitely need one. It's got to be free market oriented,
it's got to be competition oriented, and otherwise it's a disaster.
(26:37):
Government doesn't run many things. Well, how's your school system
has law and order, safety, security? You know, run through
the list. They don't. Where's the Social Security lock box?
These people promise everything and they steal everything. It pisses
me off. You get why are you getting me mad
on a Friday? Why are you doing that? I want
to relax and enjoy my weekend.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Sean, you were a great American, and for many years
I been told that I look like.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
You, and I actually sound like you. So just know
that you have more than enough support.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
I was at a football game last weekend, at a
college football game, and a guy turns around and he's
kind of got a nice little shine on if you will,
and goes, man, you look like Sean Hannity. Because then
he look like Sean Hannity goes to his friend and
I'm like, you know what. Another guy said that to
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me like five minutes ago. I'm like, really, I look
like I watched the guy. Do you do you like him?
I love him? I said, I'm Sean Hannity. It was
pretty funny. Listen, Larry twenty five years. I am so
grateful you let me do this job. I really am.
You have a great weekend with your family.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Okay, thank you, sir.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
All right, thought it's gonna wrap things up for this
Halloween Friday, okay, go out, teach your little children to
go beg for free stuff, and remind them tomorrow that
not everything in life is free. Have a great, great weekend.
We will see you back here Monday. Thank you for
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