November 10, 2025 • 29 mins
A fierce split has erupted within the Democratic Party after eight Senate Democrats joined Republicans to advance a deal ending the historic government shutdown. Sean Hannity frames it as an unprecedented "civil war," highlighting leaders like Chuck Schumer, Dick Durbin, Tim Kaine, and AOC facing outrage from progressive voices and grassroots activists. Guests such as Mark Simon and Dr. Josh Umber discuss how this infighting signals a new power dynamic with the party's left wing, led by AOC and the Squad, openly challenging the old guard, while practical impacts like flight delays and food stamp cuts hit millions. This moment matters as it shows a major transformation in Democratic leadership and priorities, affecting not just party politics but American lives going into the holidays.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thanks to all of you for being with us.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Right down are toll free telephone number you want to
be a part of the program. Well, it is a
full law Democratic Party civil war that has broken out.
And it has broken out because the first step to
reopening the government happened last night when enough Democrats decided
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enough of the Schumer shut down. And now it is
just that the wrath of the real power base of
the Democrats is gone insane and it is breathtaking to watch.
I've never seen a crack up like this. It's everything
we've been telling you is happening, except nobody's really just
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been laying it out as plainly as we try to
lay this thing out here. It is going to lead.
There's going to be some political roadkill, if you will,
in terms of people that are currently well in power
and name only like Schumer and I. I think it'll
probably impact a team Jefferies as well, because finally enough
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Democrats have come to their senses and they said this
has got to stop. This has got to end. We
have got to get this government open. You know, look,
I've never been a big, big believer the government shutdowns
are as bad as they you know, people predict theyre
going to because they always end up getting resolved much quicker,
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this now being the longest you know, shutdown in history,
and it looks like with the end of it comes
with it a civil war within the Democratic Party ranks.
I mean, yeah, okay, they got just enough votes. Eight
members of the Democratic Caucus voted with Republicans last night,
bringing the magic number to the filibuster, defying sixty votes
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that have been needed. Three of them, Fetterman Pennsylvania, Catherine
Cortez Mastow of Nevada, and Independent Angus King of Maine,
have been voting to end the shutdown since early last month.
They were joined by Dick Durbin. Why Dick Durbin. If
Dick Durbin was running for reelection, he never would have
voted for this. I think behind the scenes, probably Schumer,
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in spite of his public posturing to hang on to power.
I think that he was basically saying, all right, I'm out,
so it doesn't matter to me. I'm not running for reelection,
I don't care. And the only member of leadership to
back the deal who is notably retiring next year, Tim
Kayane of Virginia, again taking one for the team, who
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represents one hundred and fifty to three hundred thousand workers.
Janine Shaheen of New Hampshire also retiring next year, Maggie
Asanum New Hampshire, and Jackie Rosen and Nevada. Now that
has now resulted in a absolute firestorm. If you look
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at liberal social media, it is on fire. If you
listen to Democrats in the media. Now, I will say this,
you know, Angus King, Tim Kane, even Dicky Durbin. Let
me play Dick Durbin, for example, play close attention to
what he says here.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
The fate of this effort depends on both the Senate
and the House of Representatives. After a seven week absence,
the Speaker Johnson needs to call his members back and
join us in the hard work that lies ahead. Many
of my friends are unhappy. They think we should have
kept our government closed indefinitely to protest the policies of
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the Trump administration. I share their opinions of this administration,
but cannot accept a strategy which wages political battle at
the expense of my neighbor's paycheck or the food for
his children.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
All we've been hearing from Democrats, Oh yeah, we know.
People are being hurt by their shutdown, but we don't care,
you know, we need the leverage. They've actually been saying
the quiet part out loud, which has been pretty spectacular.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
But liberal media, I mean the.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Vitriol, the outrage, the the madness, the insanity. You know,
it's now bleed. It is now bleeding out. You know,
Gavin Newsom puts up an ex post pathetic one word
Senator Schumer is no longer effective. Should be replaced, uh
Representative Democratic Representative Rocanna, who may himself, you know, be
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looking to run for a higher office.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Schumer's done.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
You know, it's probably just a matter of time until
he finally, you know, just packs it in and says
he's retiring.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
That's my guess.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
And you know, but we got to go back to
Canary in the coal mine was kind of leveled after
the election last week, and AOC took direct direct aim
at Schumer and direct aim at Hakeem Jeffries. Now, going
back to when Pelosi was speaker, what have we said
about AOC on this program, that that AOC is the
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real Speaker of the House and Pelosi at the time, Now,
how came Jeffries at this time? They are leaders in
name only, and AOC went at both of them with
a direct hit. Here's what she said about humor and
the old guard.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
The Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer did not endorse in
this race. He did not endorse Mamdani and wouldn't say
how he voted. What's your response to that, Well, what
I think is so impressive about what Zohran Mamdani accomplished tonight,
as well as the entire movement of New Yorkers that
came out to vote for him, is that he had
to not just defeat a Republican, he had to defeat
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a Republican and the old guard of the Democratic Party
at the same time.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
He was fighting a war on two fronts and not
just one. And he's still won resounding way. And I
think the message that that sends is that the Democratic
Party cannot last much longer by denying the future, by
trying to undercut our young, by trying to undercut a
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next generation of diverse and upcoming Democrats that have the parties,
the actual party, there are actual electorate and voter support.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
The most bold statement to date that she recognizes that
she has more power, and she does, and I've been
saying this for a long time. The Democratic Party has
been taken over by the more radical wing, the Green
New Deal, you know, leadership, and that includes i'd say
AOC is on top, to be very frank with you,
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leading the squad, pushing the Green New Deal, partnering with
the fight the oligarchy tour with Bernie Sanders.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Pocahontas is a part of it.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Jasmine Crockett is a member in great standing.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
And so what do I think.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
I think behind the scenes that the people that are
going to be least impacted by their decision to vote
for opening the government basically said yeah, I'll fall on
the sword. They never would have if they were running
for re election. I think that's very deep and profound. Now,
she also went after Hakeem Jefferies. Remember Hakem Jeffries didn't
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endorse Mamdani until like the weekend before the mayoral race,
which was a long time. He didn't want to do it,
but he knew and was compelled to do it because
he's understanding that his own power base is hanging in
the balance and it may be done also because AOC
went right at him because Hakim Jeffries had stated that
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Zoram Mamdani is not going to be the face of
the Democratic Party. And by the way, he's wrong about this. Listen,
now we have another cut from last week if you
find it anyway. So she said that Hakeem Jeffries is
absolutely those that you say that he's not part of
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the Democratic future and leadership, that they're out of touch.
So she's going right at the heart of the of
the Democratic Party base. And you know, now, now both
Chuck Schumer, I mean Chuck Schumer literally said to f
off as Democrats are raging in this. In this you know,
I've never seen her crack up as bad as this
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in my lifetime. Now, there have been times in the
past where Democrats mcgovernites, et cetera. Have gone off the rails,
but not like this. So the eight members of the
Democratic Conquers that back this late and ideal last night
to reopen the government. Now the question is I think
most Democrats privately want to get the hell out of there.
If in fact that happens, if they use procedural votes,
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which they're very capable of doing, then they they might
very they can keep this alive until probably Friday. For
the record, the Speaker of the House and I've been
in touch with him. Mike Johnson has called his members back.
I mean, we have over five thousand delayed flights today
and over two thousand canceled today. I mean, it's insane
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in part because this is how far they have taken
all of this, again for the leverage that they have
been quietly saying that they need. Now you have other
people like Rocanna, California saying that Chuck Leet, Chuck Schumer
is no longer effective, should be replaced. Remember when he
supported the cr back in March, he was excoriated. He
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wasn't going to make the same mistake twice. He's thinking
by appeasing this base that somehow he's gonna garner goodwill.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
He's not. It's over, it's done, it's finished. And you know, even.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Sean Duffy, Transportation Secretary Warren that air travel is going
to worsen as we're now heading into Thanksgiving weekend. And
this is all on the Democrats. They wanted to get
past election day to make this happen. US airports where
delays are piling up, I mean O'Hare, Chicago, Atlanta, Hartsfield, Charlotte, Newark, Philly,
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d C. Boston, Chicago, Houston, Dallas, Orlando, Tampa, Miami, you know, Phoenix, La,
San Francisco, Salt Lake, Diadle, Denver, I mean, all major
hubs in the country. And it's like you know, the
Hunger Games here, I mean, you know, Democrats, you know,
saying that we know that people are getting hurt, but
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we don't care. We need the leverage in spite of
forty two million American food stamp recipients now being victimized here,
you know, Team Trump first saying Okay, well, we'll pay
half of this month's benefits because we don't have enough
to pay the full amount. The Republicans they and I'll
play this later in the program today, Republicans they have
given the Democrats fifteen times to vote for that which
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they have said that they wanted, you know, throughout fourteen
shutdowns in modern history, and that is a clean cr
which is a continuing resolution that keeps the government open
and funds it at at current levels as they work
this all out over time. Now, you know, I'm watching,
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you know, Jaheen shanin She's you know, asked if Democrats
are capitulating, and Angus King and Tim Kane admits that
he voted end the shutdown. It's not working, Angus King said,
it's not working. You know, it's not helping out the
American people at least some sense. Then you have people
like Chris Murphy, there's no way to defend a vote
to end the shutdown. Well, what do they demand? It
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was demanding one point five trillion dollars. Part of that
demand was hundreds of millions for the or illegal immigrants
to get healthcare.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
That was part of it.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Another part of it was refunding MPR and PBS. And
this was all for a seven month continuation of keeping
the government open. I'm sorry, seven week, not seven month.
So this crack up.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Then.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Bernie Sanders will play a lot of this throughout the
program today speaks out against the deal. Fifty thousand people
will die. Well, you know, I was talking to Mark
Simonial joining us later in the program, and he had
a good line. You know, he said, well, if it's
affordable care, why do you need the government and government
subsidies to afford it. It's not that affordable. And every
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promise of Obamacare has failed. It has been a spectacular failure.
You know, millions of Americans did lose their doctors in
spite of the promises of Obama and Democrats. You know,
millions lost their plans and we didn't save twenty five
hundred dollars per family per year. And they tried to
spiral everyone into a universal health care system. Thank god
Donald Trump stopped that. But you know, all across the board,
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I mean, I've never seen such such an open, you know,
rebellion in Democratic Party ranks like this. You know, Sonny
Houston on the view that heart Eitating news show calling
for Schumer to step down because Democrats caved on this
particular issue. Whoopy Goldberg slamming the eight Democrats. Then you
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got Zora Mamdani saying that the government's going to confiscate
privately owned property if landlords don't pay fines. Again, we'll
get to that later in the program, and it is.
And then Democrats James Carvel's saying if they win in
twenty eight, oh yeah, they're going to increase Supreme Court
justices from nine to thirteen. Now, one of the things
that I know people are saying, well, oh, Donald Trump
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is making this.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Donald Trump is saying we're going to give you know,
we're going to help people.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
And this is where we have talked for years on
this program about alternative solutions to healthcare, health care savings, accounts,
patients Power by the Cato Institute. This is why we've
had doctor Josh Umber on this program. Healthcare cooperatives fifty
bucks a month, unlimited access to a doctor twenty four
to seven. This is where you know technology would come in,
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that would be telemedicine. This is where you know prescription
drug prices that the President has been negotiating with these
companies is going to be so impactful for the average
American family. But free market solutions rather than government top
down solutions, you know, are going to be the answer
if you really want affordable healthcare and you want to
give people choices and options. And one big part of
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it is okay, if you're young and healthy, you know,
a big part of your insurance is all rightly check
up and that's probably about all you'll need unless you
need stitches or you break a bone or but you
have you know, catastrophic insurance if you have a heart attack,
a stroke, a bad accident, and with you know, whatever
deductible you can afford, okay, and then you're covered, and
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that's a lot cheaper than the average health plant twenty
five now till the top of the hour, eight hundred
and nine to four one sean, if you want to
be a part of the program, I know the Biden
Harris economy hangover is not that long since the one
big beautiful bill passed. It's not that long since the
tax cuts have been passed. Remember it took Reagan about
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a year and a half or for the economy to turn.
It's not it doesn't turn on a dime. Uh And
never before we had trillions and trillions of dollars. As
President Trump has been able to accumulate in new investment
in manufacturing around the country, which I think is going
to be a great boom. Reagan cut taxes seventy eight
to twenty eight percent, longest period of peacetime economic growth
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and history to that point, and twenty one million new
jobs were created.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
All of this is going to happen.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Add the energy component, add the the massive amount of
committed investments over the next few years. The incentive, how
they've incentivized manufacturers to build out their their facilities with
bonus appreciation. They can write off the building of their facilities,
which means people get to work faster, first building out
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the centers, and then secondly, you know the jobs that
will be created thereof But it's still you know, we've
got to hangover economically speaking. You know, I know there's
this blame game going on, and I'll play it in
the next hour. I won't play it now because I
really have so much information I want to I want
to get to you. This is hanging by a thread.
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This reopening. I think it's gonna happen, but there's a
lot of resistance. I mean, the radical Democrats now have
that much of that much power and that much control
over the Democratic leadership that they really are in Abstentia.
They are the leaders of the Democratic Party. This is
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now Bernie Sanders you know dream, this is this is
the squad's dream. This is aoc amom nani's dream. They
are the power base of the party. Every you know,
every single shutdown prior Democrats like Schumer again and again,
we're not going to be held hostage, and the list
goes on and on, the adjectives he used, and you know,
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either I get what I want now. The Republicans what
fourteen fifteen times now have voted for a continuing resolution
the House passed it, the Senate has has voted fifteen times. No,
they just can't get past the filibuster. And there's been
a deep divide whether to eliminate the filibuster or not.
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But let's put that discussion debate off for another day. President,
and you now see the real life impact of this
being the longest shutdown in history. Usually shutdowns end because
at some point everybody used to not anymore. Get to
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a point where, okay, this is hurting the American people.
We're supposed to be their public servants. And the negotiation
then begins after they reopen the government, keeping the government
at current levels of spending. That's what a clean cr is,
continuing resolution. That's what the Democrats and the Senate have rejected.
Is they fear their radical base. But now it's impacting
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forty two million Americans that get snap benefits. We now
have today over two thousand flights canceled or somewhere around there,
and five thousand flights delayed. We're heading into Thanksgiving week.
When is it next week?
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Linda? I think it's next week.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
And President Trump has now ordered air traffic controllers to
return to work immediately or they will face a pay cut.
All air traffic controllers must get back to work now,
he said. Anyone who doesn't will be substantially docked. He said,
for these air traffic controllers who were great patriots and
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didn't take any time off for the Democratic shut down hoax,
I will be recommending a bonus of ten thousand dollars
per person for distinguished service to our country. For those
that did nothing but complain and took time off even
though everyone knew they would be paid in full shortly
in the future. I am not happy with you. He
didn't step up to help the US against the fake
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Democrat attack, and that was only meant to hurt our country.
And remember, and I can play for you again. I
played it a lot now in the past, all the
times Democrats said they need this as leverage, he said,
you will have a negative mark, at least in my
mind against your record. If you want to leave service
in the future, please don't hesitate to do so with
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no payment or severance of any kind. You will be
quickly replaced by true patriots who will do a better job.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
So to say.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Now, one thing that Sean Duffy, I've had long conversations,
both on and off the air with him. He's trying
to do. You know that air traffic controllers have to
retire at fifty five. That's insane. You know, fifty five
is like the old forty for crying out loud. I mean,
longevity is now real, and you know, you lose top
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experienced people that way. He's now trying to bring those
people back and incentivize them to come back and let
them keep their retirement and make more money and not
have a be taxed. I believe President Trump yesterday said
that he's going to try to give two thousand dollars
from tariff revenue collected by the administration to Americans that
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excluding high income people. I'm gad to guess that that
would be household income of you know, one hundred and
fifty two hundred thousand dollars more, he said. The summer,
Josh Hawley introduced legislation to give six hundred dollars tare
of rebates to nearly all Americans and their dependent children.
My legislation would allow hard working Americans to benefit from
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the wealth.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
And these tariffs are bringing in a fortune.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
And you might say, well, what about the deficit, Well,
for every new dollar that Reagan brought in by cutting
taxes from seventy to twenty eight percent, revenues doubled. The
problem then was the problem we have today is every
new dollar Reagan brought in, they spent a dollar twenty
five And you know, the size and scope of government
is now out of control. But this civil war is real.
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The leader of one of the nation's largest progressive political
organizing groups called for Chuck Schumer's resignation. Chuck Schumer's career
is over anyway. Schumer was not among the eight members
in the Democratic Caucus. No, they sat in a closed room.
Let me tell you what happened, and Dick Durbin he's retiring.
All these people retiring. Okay, we'll do yours. You're from
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a state going to be impacted. You'll probably be rewarded
if you help open the government. That's how this deal
went out, and probably the same thing will happen in
the House if in fact one Democratic voter is needed,
and there is. You know, my colleague had program puts
out The Hitchhiker's Guide to all Things Washington, and he says,
reckonings are coming if government stays closed, voters will will
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I mean, and how angry are people that have been
If any of you listening to this show have gone
to an airport over the last week, you know what
you're experiencing. It is hell on earth. It's awful. You know,
some of these concerns may dissipate of lawmakers address the
shutdown quickly, but you know, I Hakeem Jefferies is not
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indicating he vows to fight the Senate shutdown agreement. I'm
not expecting a single Democrat in the House. And then
if you start out losing, say Tom Massey and Marjorie
Taylor Green. I mean, we're now at a razor thin
margin again, and it appears that you know, Senate Republicans
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will barely be able to send this back to the House,
and the House Speaker has ordered all House members to return.
House Democrats and a number of them now venting that
they don't support their Senate colleagues. I mean, the civil
war gets louder and more, you know, aggressive, by the day.
There's there's no real winners and losers here. You know,
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the right thing to do would have been once people
started getting impacted, once this became real. Usually shutdowns get
to the point where it begins to become real, and
you're going to stop making snap benefits and you're going
to have air traffic control issues like we have on
top of you. Remember Joe Biden left office and we
were shy about three thousand two or three thousand air
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traffic controllers to begin with. You know what's happened and
is this party is now controlled by this radical left.
They are choosing politics over the paychecks of American working
men and women. And they are even saying it. They're
saying the quiet part out loud. They need, they want
the leverage, even though they know people will get hurt.
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And I don't play that later today, but this is
a gamble on their part. You know what is already
a record long federal closure. You know, I argue is
going to blow up in the Democrats' faces because the
country's going to see the real power based in the
Democratic Party. First of all, the leadership's beholden to the
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real leaders that are radical hard left, and that the
Democratic Party now is the face of it would be Momdani,
the Squad, Jasmin Crockett, Grandpa Bernie Pocahontas. Everything I've been
telling you is now playing out before your very eyes,
and it is all real. Unfortunately, it was an interesting article.
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I don't know if you saw this, Linda, but so
Nancy Pelosi's retiring. Okay, Nancy Pelosi thirty eight years in Congress,
and by the numbers her years in Congress, she had
seven hundred and eighty five thousand dollars value of stockholdings
prior to her entering Congress thirty eight years ago one
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hundred and thirty three point seven million today. That is
a sixteen thousand, nine hundred and thirty percent profit, three
million net worth before joining Congress now a net worth
of two hundred and eighty million, and she owns a
winery on top of it. And you know, I don't
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mind success, but can you name one Wall Street firm
that has a sixteen thousand, nine hundred and thirty percent
return over that period of time?
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Because I can't. Maybe maybe it exists. I don't know.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
I'll always remember when they asked her, should we stop
congress members of Congress from trading? She said absolutely not.
And if you look at the members of Congress that
are trading and not fully disclosing how they trade through
all multimillionaires, mostly Democrats, definitely, some Republicans too, but it's
a massive problem.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
A huge problem because they have inside information. There's actually
I don't know what the name of the website, forgive me,
but I've read about it numerous times. It's actually a
website that has because she has to publicly disclose what
she's investing in, and there are people that just follow
her investment portfolio, albeit not in real time, but as
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soon as she has to publicly disclose it. When it's disclosed,
they're like, all right, I'm investing with that because her
track record is nearly perfect.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
Well, they don't even need to do that. They should
just follow how she votes. Whatever she votes on, that's
how she's going to invest. That's why they call it
insider trading her or Martha's do it should have, you know,
share to sell.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Well, the thing with Martha Stewart is, I will say this,
it was over. It's I don't know what she was thinking.
I don't know what happened. I don't know if it
got lost in in. I mean, she's a multimillionaire. I
actually met her once and she took her punishment and
she on a plane. She went to jail, never complained publicly,
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came out and went back to her life, and it
just didn't make sense because of how wealthy she was
and how little amount of money that we were talking
about in that stock trade. It makes me wonder if
there was something going on there. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Because it didn't make sense. Nobody with that amount of
money is ever going to do that. In my humble opinion,
it just defies all logic and common sense. But you know,
I never asked her. I never felt the need to
ask her. Now, the Mamdani exodus at the NYPD has
already begun. The NYPD saw a thirty five percent hike
in cops of all ranks, leaving an Octber two hundred
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and forty five officers compared to one hundred and eighty
one the same time last year. Let me, let me
tell you what's going to happen. And I'm going to
give you some insight here and I'm going to make
a prediction. You are going to see states like my state,
they are going to take fully trained New York officers
because Governor Ron DeSantis has already done this, and he's
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going to incentivize them with a nice big bonus to
move down to Florida. They're already trained, they're ready to go.
Actually that you get trained pretty well with the NYPD,
And meanwhile Mamdani doesn't want them anyway, So what's the
difference now? The top Zoran commie Marxist Mamdani ally Linda
Sarsor called out for called for the oust of Israel
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supporting Democrats in fiery remarks Thursday at this political conference.
You do the right thing, you keep your job. You
do the right thing. You don't do the right thing,
you don't keep your job, he said, arguing any Democrats
who don't oppose Israel will be nudged aside. I'm I'm
finding this rise of anti Semitism nauseating, and a lot
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of it is based on a level of ignorance that
I find breathtaking. I really do, what would Americans ask yourself?
And I think that the young people, by the way,
I've been told by people really good sources, that a
lot of what is online is perfect, is being designed,
and that there's a bot network from countries that are
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sowing hatred towards Israel at the highest levels, including countries
like Iran and others, and that they want this, they
want to create this and It's just scary, because what
would you want America to do if we were hit
with one rocket, never mind hundreds of thousands over the years,
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you know. And then Mamdani now announcing that he's going
to begin confiscating New York business owners properties and have
the take ownership starting day one. We'll expand the city's
special enforcement programs. The city's going to step in, send
them the bill. If that doesn't work, the city's taking
over the building. Oh, I don't know the means of production.
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That what they're talking about, because that's what it sounds
like for me. Oh by the way, and he did
charge thirteen dollars per beer at his victory party.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Thirteen dollars. I thought everything was supposed to be free.
Thirteen dollars for beer. It sound a little highland, don't
you think? Anyway?
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Eight hundred and ninefold, all right? The latest on the
government shutdown. It's so much more. Carol Roth, Mark Simone
and Mark Wayne's Mullins of Oklahoma.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Next
Thanks to all of you for being with us.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Right down are toll free telephone number you want to
be a part of the program. Well, it is a
full law Democratic Party civil war that has broken out.
And it has broken out because the first step to
reopening the government happened last night when enough Democrats decided
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enough of the Schumer shut down. And now it is
just that the wrath of the real power base of
the Democrats is gone insane and it is breathtaking to watch.
I've never seen a crack up like this. It's everything
we've been telling you is happening, except nobody's really just
(00:45):
been laying it out as plainly as we try to
lay this thing out here. It is going to lead.
There's going to be some political roadkill, if you will,
in terms of people that are currently well in power
and name only like Schumer and I. I think it'll
probably impact a team Jefferies as well, because finally enough
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Democrats have come to their senses and they said this
has got to stop. This has got to end. We
have got to get this government open. You know, look,
I've never been a big, big believer the government shutdowns
are as bad as they you know, people predict theyre
going to because they always end up getting resolved much quicker,
(01:27):
this now being the longest you know, shutdown in history,
and it looks like with the end of it comes
with it a civil war within the Democratic Party ranks.
I mean, yeah, okay, they got just enough votes. Eight
members of the Democratic Caucus voted with Republicans last night,
bringing the magic number to the filibuster, defying sixty votes
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that have been needed. Three of them, Fetterman Pennsylvania, Catherine
Cortez Mastow of Nevada, and Independent Angus King of Maine,
have been voting to end the shutdown since early last month.
They were joined by Dick Durbin. Why Dick Durbin. If
Dick Durbin was running for reelection, he never would have
voted for this. I think behind the scenes, probably Schumer,
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in spite of his public posturing to hang on to power.
I think that he was basically saying, all right, I'm out,
so it doesn't matter to me. I'm not running for reelection,
I don't care. And the only member of leadership to
back the deal who is notably retiring next year, Tim
Kayane of Virginia, again taking one for the team, who
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represents one hundred and fifty to three hundred thousand workers.
Janine Shaheen of New Hampshire also retiring next year, Maggie
Asanum New Hampshire, and Jackie Rosen and Nevada. Now that
has now resulted in a absolute firestorm. If you look
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at liberal social media, it is on fire. If you
listen to Democrats in the media. Now, I will say this,
you know, Angus King, Tim Kane, even Dicky Durbin. Let
me play Dick Durbin, for example, play close attention to
what he says here.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
The fate of this effort depends on both the Senate
and the House of Representatives. After a seven week absence,
the Speaker Johnson needs to call his members back and
join us in the hard work that lies ahead. Many
of my friends are unhappy. They think we should have
kept our government closed indefinitely to protest the policies of
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the Trump administration. I share their opinions of this administration,
but cannot accept a strategy which wages political battle at
the expense of my neighbor's paycheck or the food for
his children.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
All we've been hearing from Democrats, Oh yeah, we know.
People are being hurt by their shutdown, but we don't care,
you know, we need the leverage. They've actually been saying
the quiet part out loud, which has been pretty spectacular.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
But liberal media, I mean the.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Vitriol, the outrage, the the madness, the insanity. You know,
it's now bleed. It is now bleeding out. You know,
Gavin Newsom puts up an ex post pathetic one word
Senator Schumer is no longer effective. Should be replaced, uh
Representative Democratic Representative Rocanna, who may himself, you know, be
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looking to run for a higher office.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Schumer's done.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
You know, it's probably just a matter of time until
he finally, you know, just packs it in and says
he's retiring.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
That's my guess.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
And you know, but we got to go back to
Canary in the coal mine was kind of leveled after
the election last week, and AOC took direct direct aim
at Schumer and direct aim at Hakeem Jeffries. Now, going
back to when Pelosi was speaker, what have we said
about AOC on this program, that that AOC is the
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real Speaker of the House and Pelosi at the time, Now,
how came Jeffries at this time? They are leaders in
name only, and AOC went at both of them with
a direct hit. Here's what she said about humor and
the old guard.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
The Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer did not endorse in
this race. He did not endorse Mamdani and wouldn't say
how he voted. What's your response to that, Well, what
I think is so impressive about what Zohran Mamdani accomplished tonight,
as well as the entire movement of New Yorkers that
came out to vote for him, is that he had
to not just defeat a Republican, he had to defeat
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a Republican and the old guard of the Democratic Party
at the same time.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
He was fighting a war on two fronts and not
just one. And he's still won resounding way. And I
think the message that that sends is that the Democratic
Party cannot last much longer by denying the future, by
trying to undercut our young, by trying to undercut a
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next generation of diverse and upcoming Democrats that have the parties,
the actual party, there are actual electorate and voter support.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
The most bold statement to date that she recognizes that
she has more power, and she does, and I've been
saying this for a long time. The Democratic Party has
been taken over by the more radical wing, the Green
New Deal, you know, leadership, and that includes i'd say
AOC is on top, to be very frank with you,
(06:35):
leading the squad, pushing the Green New Deal, partnering with
the fight the oligarchy tour with Bernie Sanders.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Pocahontas is a part of it.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Jasmine Crockett is a member in great standing.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
And so what do I think.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
I think behind the scenes that the people that are
going to be least impacted by their decision to vote
for opening the government basically said yeah, I'll fall on
the sword. They never would have if they were running
for re election. I think that's very deep and profound. Now,
she also went after Hakeem Jefferies. Remember Hakem Jeffries didn't
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endorse Mamdani until like the weekend before the mayoral race,
which was a long time. He didn't want to do it,
but he knew and was compelled to do it because
he's understanding that his own power base is hanging in
the balance and it may be done also because AOC
went right at him because Hakim Jeffries had stated that
(07:34):
Zoram Mamdani is not going to be the face of
the Democratic Party. And by the way, he's wrong about this. Listen,
now we have another cut from last week if you
find it anyway. So she said that Hakeem Jeffries is
absolutely those that you say that he's not part of
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the Democratic future and leadership, that they're out of touch.
So she's going right at the heart of the of
the Democratic Party base. And you know, now, now both
Chuck Schumer, I mean Chuck Schumer literally said to f
off as Democrats are raging in this. In this you know,
I've never seen her crack up as bad as this
(08:17):
in my lifetime. Now, there have been times in the
past where Democrats mcgovernites, et cetera. Have gone off the rails,
but not like this. So the eight members of the
Democratic Conquers that back this late and ideal last night
to reopen the government. Now the question is I think
most Democrats privately want to get the hell out of there.
If in fact that happens, if they use procedural votes,
(08:37):
which they're very capable of doing, then they they might
very they can keep this alive until probably Friday. For
the record, the Speaker of the House and I've been
in touch with him. Mike Johnson has called his members back.
I mean, we have over five thousand delayed flights today
and over two thousand canceled today. I mean, it's insane
(08:58):
in part because this is how far they have taken
all of this, again for the leverage that they have
been quietly saying that they need. Now you have other
people like Rocanna, California saying that Chuck Leet, Chuck Schumer
is no longer effective, should be replaced. Remember when he
supported the cr back in March, he was excoriated. He
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wasn't going to make the same mistake twice. He's thinking
by appeasing this base that somehow he's gonna garner goodwill.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
He's not. It's over, it's done, it's finished. And you know, even.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Sean Duffy, Transportation Secretary Warren that air travel is going
to worsen as we're now heading into Thanksgiving weekend. And
this is all on the Democrats. They wanted to get
past election day to make this happen. US airports where
delays are piling up, I mean O'Hare, Chicago, Atlanta, Hartsfield, Charlotte, Newark, Philly,
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d C. Boston, Chicago, Houston, Dallas, Orlando, Tampa, Miami, you know, Phoenix, La,
San Francisco, Salt Lake, Diadle, Denver, I mean, all major
hubs in the country. And it's like you know, the
Hunger Games here, I mean, you know, Democrats, you know,
saying that we know that people are getting hurt, but
(10:09):
we don't care. We need the leverage in spite of
forty two million American food stamp recipients now being victimized here,
you know, Team Trump first saying Okay, well, we'll pay
half of this month's benefits because we don't have enough
to pay the full amount. The Republicans they and I'll
play this later in the program today, Republicans they have
given the Democrats fifteen times to vote for that which
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they have said that they wanted, you know, throughout fourteen
shutdowns in modern history, and that is a clean cr
which is a continuing resolution that keeps the government open
and funds it at at current levels as they work
this all out over time. Now, you know, I'm watching,
(10:54):
you know, Jaheen shanin She's you know, asked if Democrats
are capitulating, and Angus King and Tim Kane admits that
he voted end the shutdown. It's not working, Angus King said,
it's not working. You know, it's not helping out the
American people at least some sense. Then you have people
like Chris Murphy, there's no way to defend a vote
to end the shutdown. Well, what do they demand? It
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was demanding one point five trillion dollars. Part of that
demand was hundreds of millions for the or illegal immigrants
to get healthcare.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
That was part of it.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Another part of it was refunding MPR and PBS. And
this was all for a seven month continuation of keeping
the government open. I'm sorry, seven week, not seven month.
So this crack up.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Then.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Bernie Sanders will play a lot of this throughout the
program today speaks out against the deal. Fifty thousand people
will die. Well, you know, I was talking to Mark
Simonial joining us later in the program, and he had
a good line. You know, he said, well, if it's
affordable care, why do you need the government and government
subsidies to afford it. It's not that affordable. And every
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promise of Obamacare has failed. It has been a spectacular failure.
You know, millions of Americans did lose their doctors in
spite of the promises of Obama and Democrats. You know,
millions lost their plans and we didn't save twenty five
hundred dollars per family per year. And they tried to
spiral everyone into a universal health care system. Thank god
Donald Trump stopped that. But you know, all across the board,
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I mean, I've never seen such such an open, you know,
rebellion in Democratic Party ranks like this. You know, Sonny
Houston on the view that heart Eitating news show calling
for Schumer to step down because Democrats caved on this
particular issue. Whoopy Goldberg slamming the eight Democrats. Then you
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got Zora Mamdani saying that the government's going to confiscate
privately owned property if landlords don't pay fines. Again, we'll
get to that later in the program, and it is.
And then Democrats James Carvel's saying if they win in
twenty eight, oh yeah, they're going to increase Supreme Court
justices from nine to thirteen. Now, one of the things
that I know people are saying, well, oh, Donald Trump
(13:09):
is making this.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Donald Trump is saying we're going to give you know,
we're going to help people.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
And this is where we have talked for years on
this program about alternative solutions to healthcare, health care savings, accounts,
patients Power by the Cato Institute. This is why we've
had doctor Josh Umber on this program. Healthcare cooperatives fifty
bucks a month, unlimited access to a doctor twenty four
to seven. This is where you know technology would come in,
(13:34):
that would be telemedicine. This is where you know prescription
drug prices that the President has been negotiating with these
companies is going to be so impactful for the average
American family. But free market solutions rather than government top
down solutions, you know, are going to be the answer
if you really want affordable healthcare and you want to
give people choices and options. And one big part of
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it is okay, if you're young and healthy, you know,
a big part of your insurance is all rightly check
up and that's probably about all you'll need unless you
need stitches or you break a bone or but you
have you know, catastrophic insurance if you have a heart attack,
a stroke, a bad accident, and with you know, whatever
deductible you can afford, okay, and then you're covered, and
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that's a lot cheaper than the average health plant twenty
five now till the top of the hour, eight hundred
and nine to four one sean, if you want to
be a part of the program, I know the Biden
Harris economy hangover is not that long since the one
big beautiful bill passed. It's not that long since the
tax cuts have been passed. Remember it took Reagan about
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a year and a half or for the economy to turn.
It's not it doesn't turn on a dime. Uh And
never before we had trillions and trillions of dollars. As
President Trump has been able to accumulate in new investment
in manufacturing around the country, which I think is going
to be a great boom. Reagan cut taxes seventy eight
to twenty eight percent, longest period of peacetime economic growth
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and history to that point, and twenty one million new
jobs were created.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
All of this is going to happen.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Add the energy component, add the the massive amount of
committed investments over the next few years. The incentive, how
they've incentivized manufacturers to build out their their facilities with
bonus appreciation. They can write off the building of their facilities,
which means people get to work faster, first building out
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the centers, and then secondly, you know the jobs that
will be created thereof But it's still you know, we've
got to hangover economically speaking. You know, I know there's
this blame game going on, and I'll play it in
the next hour. I won't play it now because I
really have so much information I want to I want
to get to you. This is hanging by a thread.
(15:47):
This reopening. I think it's gonna happen, but there's a
lot of resistance. I mean, the radical Democrats now have
that much of that much power and that much control
over the Democratic leadership that they really are in Abstentia.
They are the leaders of the Democratic Party. This is
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now Bernie Sanders you know dream, this is this is
the squad's dream. This is aoc amom nani's dream. They
are the power base of the party. Every you know,
every single shutdown prior Democrats like Schumer again and again,
we're not going to be held hostage, and the list
goes on and on, the adjectives he used, and you know,
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either I get what I want now. The Republicans what
fourteen fifteen times now have voted for a continuing resolution
the House passed it, the Senate has has voted fifteen times. No,
they just can't get past the filibuster. And there's been
a deep divide whether to eliminate the filibuster or not.
(16:54):
But let's put that discussion debate off for another day. President,
and you now see the real life impact of this
being the longest shutdown in history. Usually shutdowns end because
at some point everybody used to not anymore. Get to
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a point where, okay, this is hurting the American people.
We're supposed to be their public servants. And the negotiation
then begins after they reopen the government, keeping the government
at current levels of spending. That's what a clean cr is,
continuing resolution. That's what the Democrats and the Senate have rejected.
Is they fear their radical base. But now it's impacting
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forty two million Americans that get snap benefits. We now
have today over two thousand flights canceled or somewhere around there,
and five thousand flights delayed. We're heading into Thanksgiving week.
When is it next week?
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Linda? I think it's next week.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
And President Trump has now ordered air traffic controllers to
return to work immediately or they will face a pay cut.
All air traffic controllers must get back to work now,
he said. Anyone who doesn't will be substantially docked. He said,
for these air traffic controllers who were great patriots and
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didn't take any time off for the Democratic shut down hoax,
I will be recommending a bonus of ten thousand dollars
per person for distinguished service to our country. For those
that did nothing but complain and took time off even
though everyone knew they would be paid in full shortly
in the future. I am not happy with you. He
didn't step up to help the US against the fake
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Democrat attack, and that was only meant to hurt our country.
And remember, and I can play for you again. I
played it a lot now in the past, all the
times Democrats said they need this as leverage, he said,
you will have a negative mark, at least in my
mind against your record. If you want to leave service
in the future, please don't hesitate to do so with
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no payment or severance of any kind. You will be
quickly replaced by true patriots who will do a better job.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
So to say.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Now, one thing that Sean Duffy, I've had long conversations,
both on and off the air with him. He's trying
to do. You know that air traffic controllers have to
retire at fifty five. That's insane. You know, fifty five
is like the old forty for crying out loud. I mean,
longevity is now real, and you know, you lose top
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experienced people that way. He's now trying to bring those
people back and incentivize them to come back and let
them keep their retirement and make more money and not
have a be taxed. I believe President Trump yesterday said
that he's going to try to give two thousand dollars
from tariff revenue collected by the administration to Americans that
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excluding high income people. I'm gad to guess that that
would be household income of you know, one hundred and
fifty two hundred thousand dollars more, he said. The summer,
Josh Hawley introduced legislation to give six hundred dollars tare
of rebates to nearly all Americans and their dependent children.
My legislation would allow hard working Americans to benefit from
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the wealth.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
And these tariffs are bringing in a fortune.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
And you might say, well, what about the deficit, Well,
for every new dollar that Reagan brought in by cutting
taxes from seventy to twenty eight percent, revenues doubled. The
problem then was the problem we have today is every
new dollar Reagan brought in, they spent a dollar twenty
five And you know, the size and scope of government
is now out of control. But this civil war is real.
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The leader of one of the nation's largest progressive political
organizing groups called for Chuck Schumer's resignation. Chuck Schumer's career
is over anyway. Schumer was not among the eight members
in the Democratic Caucus. No, they sat in a closed room.
Let me tell you what happened, and Dick Durbin he's retiring.
All these people retiring. Okay, we'll do yours. You're from
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a state going to be impacted. You'll probably be rewarded
if you help open the government. That's how this deal
went out, and probably the same thing will happen in
the House if in fact one Democratic voter is needed,
and there is. You know, my colleague had program puts
out The Hitchhiker's Guide to all Things Washington, and he says,
reckonings are coming if government stays closed, voters will will
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I mean, and how angry are people that have been
If any of you listening to this show have gone
to an airport over the last week, you know what
you're experiencing. It is hell on earth. It's awful. You know,
some of these concerns may dissipate of lawmakers address the
shutdown quickly, but you know, I Hakeem Jefferies is not
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indicating he vows to fight the Senate shutdown agreement. I'm
not expecting a single Democrat in the House. And then
if you start out losing, say Tom Massey and Marjorie
Taylor Green. I mean, we're now at a razor thin
margin again, and it appears that you know, Senate Republicans
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will barely be able to send this back to the House,
and the House Speaker has ordered all House members to return.
House Democrats and a number of them now venting that
they don't support their Senate colleagues. I mean, the civil
war gets louder and more, you know, aggressive, by the day.
There's there's no real winners and losers here. You know,
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the right thing to do would have been once people
started getting impacted, once this became real. Usually shutdowns get
to the point where it begins to become real, and
you're going to stop making snap benefits and you're going
to have air traffic control issues like we have on
top of you. Remember Joe Biden left office and we
were shy about three thousand two or three thousand air
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traffic controllers to begin with. You know what's happened and
is this party is now controlled by this radical left.
They are choosing politics over the paychecks of American working
men and women. And they are even saying it. They're
saying the quiet part out loud. They need, they want
the leverage, even though they know people will get hurt.
(23:17):
And I don't play that later today, but this is
a gamble on their part. You know what is already
a record long federal closure. You know, I argue is
going to blow up in the Democrats' faces because the
country's going to see the real power based in the
Democratic Party. First of all, the leadership's beholden to the
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real leaders that are radical hard left, and that the
Democratic Party now is the face of it would be Momdani,
the Squad, Jasmin Crockett, Grandpa Bernie Pocahontas. Everything I've been
telling you is now playing out before your very eyes,
and it is all real. Unfortunately, it was an interesting article.
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I don't know if you saw this, Linda, but so
Nancy Pelosi's retiring. Okay, Nancy Pelosi thirty eight years in Congress,
and by the numbers her years in Congress, she had
seven hundred and eighty five thousand dollars value of stockholdings
prior to her entering Congress thirty eight years ago one
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hundred and thirty three point seven million today. That is
a sixteen thousand, nine hundred and thirty percent profit, three
million net worth before joining Congress now a net worth
of two hundred and eighty million, and she owns a
winery on top of it. And you know, I don't
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mind success, but can you name one Wall Street firm
that has a sixteen thousand, nine hundred and thirty percent
return over that period of time?
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Because I can't. Maybe maybe it exists. I don't know.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
I'll always remember when they asked her, should we stop
congress members of Congress from trading? She said absolutely not.
And if you look at the members of Congress that
are trading and not fully disclosing how they trade through
all multimillionaires, mostly Democrats, definitely, some Republicans too, but it's
a massive problem.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
A huge problem because they have inside information. There's actually
I don't know what the name of the website, forgive me,
but I've read about it numerous times. It's actually a
website that has because she has to publicly disclose what
she's investing in, and there are people that just follow
her investment portfolio, albeit not in real time, but as
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soon as she has to publicly disclose it. When it's disclosed,
they're like, all right, I'm investing with that because her
track record is nearly perfect.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
Well, they don't even need to do that. They should
just follow how she votes. Whatever she votes on, that's
how she's going to invest. That's why they call it
insider trading her or Martha's do it should have, you know,
share to sell.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Well, the thing with Martha Stewart is, I will say this,
it was over. It's I don't know what she was thinking.
I don't know what happened. I don't know if it
got lost in in. I mean, she's a multimillionaire. I
actually met her once and she took her punishment and
she on a plane. She went to jail, never complained publicly,
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came out and went back to her life, and it
just didn't make sense because of how wealthy she was
and how little amount of money that we were talking
about in that stock trade. It makes me wonder if
there was something going on there. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Because it didn't make sense. Nobody with that amount of
money is ever going to do that. In my humble opinion,
it just defies all logic and common sense. But you know,
I never asked her. I never felt the need to
ask her. Now, the Mamdani exodus at the NYPD has
already begun. The NYPD saw a thirty five percent hike
in cops of all ranks, leaving an Octber two hundred
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and forty five officers compared to one hundred and eighty
one the same time last year. Let me, let me
tell you what's going to happen. And I'm going to
give you some insight here and I'm going to make
a prediction. You are going to see states like my state,
they are going to take fully trained New York officers
because Governor Ron DeSantis has already done this, and he's
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going to incentivize them with a nice big bonus to
move down to Florida. They're already trained, they're ready to go.
Actually that you get trained pretty well with the NYPD,
And meanwhile Mamdani doesn't want them anyway, So what's the
difference now? The top Zoran commie Marxist Mamdani ally Linda
Sarsor called out for called for the oust of Israel
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supporting Democrats in fiery remarks Thursday at this political conference.
You do the right thing, you keep your job. You
do the right thing. You don't do the right thing,
you don't keep your job, he said, arguing any Democrats
who don't oppose Israel will be nudged aside. I'm I'm
finding this rise of anti Semitism nauseating, and a lot
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of it is based on a level of ignorance that
I find breathtaking. I really do, what would Americans ask yourself?
And I think that the young people, by the way,
I've been told by people really good sources, that a
lot of what is online is perfect, is being designed,
and that there's a bot network from countries that are
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sowing hatred towards Israel at the highest levels, including countries
like Iran and others, and that they want this, they
want to create this and It's just scary, because what
would you want America to do if we were hit
with one rocket, never mind hundreds of thousands over the years,
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you know. And then Mamdani now announcing that he's going
to begin confiscating New York business owners properties and have
the take ownership starting day one. We'll expand the city's
special enforcement programs. The city's going to step in, send
them the bill. If that doesn't work, the city's taking
over the building. Oh, I don't know the means of production.
(29:14):
That what they're talking about, because that's what it sounds
like for me. Oh by the way, and he did
charge thirteen dollars per beer at his victory party.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Thirteen dollars. I thought everything was supposed to be free.
Thirteen dollars for beer. It sound a little highland, don't
you think? Anyway?
Speaker 2 (29:29):
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