November 26, 2025 • 34 mins
Get ready for a Thanksgiving episode filled with lively discussion and unexpected gift ideas! Filling in for Sean Hannity, Peter Schweitzer and Eric Eggers dive into festive plans and the age-old question: should politics come up at the dinner table? As they swap funny anecdotes and tackle intriguing topics, Peter surprises Eric with a unique Christmas gift idea the Reaper Spear. Is it a symbol of American independence or too militaristic? Tune in for plenty of laughs and engaging conversation that captures the spirit of the holiday season!
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Speaker 7 (01:22):
Happy Thanksgiving, America. This is Peter Schweizer and I'm sitting
here with Eric Eggers. We are filling in for Sean.
We hope you are preparing and ready for Thanksgiving. We
hope you have a blessed time. We are with the
Government Accountability Institute and we have a podcast called The
Drill Down. We would love you to subscribe to it.
You can find out more at the drilldown dot com.
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We are going to get to your calls and we
want you to join the conversation one eight nine four,
one seven, three two six tell us about politics and Thanksgiving?
Are you going to talk about it at the dinner table?
It was interesting we talked to Tim Burchett last hour
of very outspook congressmen from Tennessee, always candidate, always open,
frustrated by the corruption Washington, DC. We are certainly familiar
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with that. We're going to continue to monitor the situation,
of course in Washington with this tragic shooting of two
National Guards members. But how are you feeling about how
things are going in Washington, Eric, I mean there's a
lot of people maybe concerned that things aren't going as
quickly as they thought they would in terms of cleaning
the place up.
Speaker 8 (02:24):
Yeah, if you missed our conversation with Tim Burchett at
the beginning of last Hour, we will post it on
our Twitter feeds, and you can find Peter Schweizer and
myself at Twitter and please follow our drill Down podcast
on Twitter as well. But I thought he was incredibly
candid with a number of things number one. He talked
about the Ukraine deal, which we began this program with.
There's some hope that you'll see a deal struck by
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at the end of this year, and he talked about
quite a frankly, the people he thinks that are opposing
this deal, opposing it because they're making money off of
the program. Making money off of public service is literally
what we do here at the government accountabiliys do not
us personally, but we docum at those that do that.
That's a constant feature and topic of our Drill Down
podcast and to that end, you know, insider trading is
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another topic that we've covered extensively. You wrote a book
on it in twenty eleven called Throw Them All Out
in which Nancy Pelosi was exposed is being able to
participate on an insider deal with Visa and her husband's
buying selling trucks, and unfortunately that practice has only continued.
We said last year was a record selling year from
stock trades, nine thousand stock trades bought and sold by
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members of Congress. This year on track to far exceed that,
over thirteen thousand individual stock trades happening within the last
three hundred and sixty five days and he said, you know,
Tim Burgey, I think is quite candid. We would love
to ban this practice. We're going to introduce the bill
to do so. We don't expect it to happen. We
don't expect it to pass.
Speaker 9 (03:48):
Well.
Speaker 7 (03:49):
Hopefully he's not being too pessimistic. I want to be
an optimist, but of course we need to be realists.
So the insider's trading thing is a real problem. We
have bipartisan support for banning it. We also have Republicans
and Democrats that have profited from that arrangement.
Speaker 9 (04:05):
And we're following other stories as well.
Speaker 7 (04:07):
We just had an investigation a come out on DEI
fraud people. Assuming Trump coming in he was going to
get rid of DEI issues, this is actually an opportunity
for people to get rich from DEI programs. This is
with the Small Business Administration's eight A program. You can
find out more about this actually zero Hedge. They wrote
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a great piece on our investigation today and you can
follow my feed on Twitter. But essentially, this is a
program that is a set aside for quote unquote disadvantaged
minority contractors to get contracts and to get loans from
the federal government.
Speaker 8 (04:45):
And before you get give out the details because it
is quite alarming and I think people will be shocked
to find out that despite as you said, Donald Trump
campaign and we're going to get rid of DEI, and
we've seen the DOZE program get in there and kind
of eliminate a lot of these programs from US, the
IDEA and others. But you just said eight A, So
that's like it's d The letters DEI have gone away, Yeah,
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but they've been replaced with these very bureaucratic sounding sub sections.
And this is the world within at least one federal
agency where the DEI practice still very much exists.
Speaker 7 (05:16):
Yeah, that's right. And basically what they are trying to
do is encourage minority owned businesses. But in practice, what
happens is you get a couple of people they can
be minorities, you know in terms of race or engender
or sexual preference or whatever, and they set up an LLC.
There's like two of them, and then they partner with
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a massive conglomerate and it needs to be an arrangement
fifty one forty nine and essentially, you know, the contractors
that are the quote unquote disadvantaged group get preferential treatment.
They do oftentimes very little of the work, and yet
they reap these enormous profits and benefits. And as we
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point out in the report, or the Department of Justice
just found one example where a USAID officer bagged one
million dollars in bribes while steering a five hundred million
dollar contract to firms because of their quote unquote special status.
It's a massive problem. James O'Keefe did a video on this,
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So the problem continues. DOGE did not get rid of it,
and we need to continue to fight this because it's
a problem just because insiders are making money, but we've
also found out examples of fraud where actually this money
ends up going overseas to some pretty nasty groups.
Speaker 8 (06:36):
Yeah, we want to talk to you about You know
this is this is not the most pleasant news you're
going to encounter the day before Thanksgiving, and we do
want to talk to you about, like what's on your
political recipe and conversational recipe as you end Thanksgiving. A
poll shows more and more Americans are willing to talk
about want to talk about politics at Thanksgiving dinner table.
We want to hear from you and what you want
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to talk about. Give us a call it's one eight
hundred and nine four one on Sean and nine for
one seven, three, two six. But absolutely what has happened
in Washington, d C. Is there's so much money slashing around.
Of course, you and I have done a program actually
on the Sean Handy television show, which we document is
called Boomtown. It's about how wealthy Washington, d C. Had become,
and you had seven of the ten wealthiest counties in
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the country. So of the top ten wealthiest counties in
this country, of which there are thousands of counties, seven
of them were immediately around the Washington DC area. It's
it's increasing the outer touch, which is why they rationalize
things like this SBA program and why Nancy Pelosi can say, oh,
I think it's okay to participate in inside of trading
in Congress, but unfortunately it's worse than just self enrichment.
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What you're alluding to is there's new reporting from Christopher
Ruffo that you've got a number of social welfare programs
in Minnesota that the Somali populations are taking advantage of,
and unfortunately, with little oversight you've seen whether it's a
program intended for housing, you know, or program in ten
and four autism. You see these people take advantage of
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it in significant ways. You see significant growth. It starts
off with three million, it grows to one hundred million.
We've documented previously there was a feeding program where the
same thing happened also with these Somali populations. But the
new reporting now shows that it's not just waste and fraud.
It's the fraudulent money then ends up going overseas. It
goes via these jualas, and it ends up literally in
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al Qaeda linked groups in Somali and elsewhere. And so
you know that's it's not just the waste of tax
payer money, it's waste of tax pay money that then
goes to groups who very much want to do us harm.
Speaker 7 (08:37):
Yeah, we're funding our enemies. And by the way, these
are feeding programs, these are EBT programs. We did a
report at the Government Accountability Institute back in twenty seventeen
called EBT Fraud and showing how people were signing up
for EBT you know, the food stamp program essentially, and
they were running up balances. By the way, I never
realized you could run up large balances on these EBT
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cards by not using them in some cases sixty thousand dollars.
Speaker 8 (09:04):
Hey tell me you're an out of touch elitist. Without
telling me you're an out of touch of leadis. I
don't know how to commit EBT fraud, says the wealthy Audi.
Speaker 7 (09:10):
Well, it's yes, it's it's it's amazing to me how
these programs don't have basic stop gaps in them. So
you have these EBT cards that get these huge sums.
They sell it, you know, for eighty cents on the dollar,
let's say, and then that money is used to fund
terrorist organizations which are targeting the United States. It was
all ship Bob, which is a terrorist organization in Africa.
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It's also been linked to al Qaida. The drug cartels
in Mexico benefit from US. And even when there are prosecutions,
there's this case in Minnesota where.
Speaker 8 (09:41):
This is stunning, by the way.
Speaker 7 (09:42):
Yeah, I mean it's absolutely stunning. You had a seven
point two million dollar medicaid fraud scheme. Seven two point
two million dollars kind of small, basically small ball in
the large scheme of things.
Speaker 8 (09:52):
Compared to Minnesota fraud.
Speaker 7 (09:54):
Absolutely, yeah, But they got this this Smali immigrant usef
who who was involved in this case and We're going
to play an audio clip here in a minute of
the jury foreman talking about this case. Prosecutors brought the evidence,
the case took place, the jury convicted. It took him
basically four hours, but the judge decided after the jury
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said we find him guilty. The judge decided, well, no,
maybe there were cultural reasons why this took place. We're
not sure that was criminal intent. Listen to the audio tape.
This is the jury foreman responding to what the judge said.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
I am shocked. I'm shocked based off of all of
the evidence that was presented to us and the obvious
guilt that we saw. Based off of the said evidence,
it was not a difficult decision whatsoever. The deliberation took
probably four hours at most, based off of the state's
evidence that was presented. I was beyond a reasonable doubt.
Speaker 8 (10:54):
So I want to connect it back to something Tim
Burch said, because you've seen some reporting about how members
of the House GOP caucus are disaffected, they're sad, they
allegedly are going to resign, and he said, that's just
the deep state pushing back, and I think these are Unfortunately,
this judge is an example of the deep state kind
of pushing back on like this is the business model,
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this is the status quo. They're blaming cultural issues. This
feeding program that happened in Minnesota several years ago, they
did the same thing. It was these smally populations and
they grew and grew, and they said, oh, it's not
that they're committing fraud. It's not that they just because
they can't document all of the services that didn't exist
that people are getting, like gold bars at weddings, these
lavish gifts that they're giving. It's a cultural issue, it's
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not a fraud issue. And that's a complete lie. And
so it just shows that it's not enough to just
kind of go in and even like we're going to
prosecute this stuff. As we documented on a recent episode
of The Drill Down the federal government in December, So
Joe Biden loses, Donald Trump comes in and he says,
we're going to hold people accountable, We're going to do
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the right thing. We're getting rid of waste fraud abuse.
So the person who was in charge of CMS at
the time issues a memo and says, listen, hey, people
who are in charge of investigating fraud within these welfare programs.
Even if you suspect someone is committing medicaid fraud, which
this smality case of Minnesota is an example of that,
even if you suspect that, you are not allowed to
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remove them from the program. This is official memo from
the person in charge of this. And you know, this
is consistent with where the federal government has been on
other examples of fraud. They've told states repeatedly with EBT
and snap fraud, if you document more fraud, you're going
to actually be penalized. The incentives are actually for to
cover up fraud. It's been a massive problem and it
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speaks to the sea change the Trump administration is attempting
to manifest and taking over. And so for people that
are frustrated that more hasn't been done, I just going
back to Tim Burchett's comments, like, it's a big, big
forces trying to fight on this thing, a lot.
Speaker 9 (12:55):
Of people making a lot of money.
Speaker 7 (12:56):
And by the way, this position that fraud is kind
of a cultural misunderstanding, first of all, enormously insulting to immigrants,
basically saying, well, you know, you don't really understand what
fraud is. You know that enormously insulting, even more insulting
to the American people because what they're essentially saying, what
this judge is essentially saying, is I don't care. We
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don't care if they're gonna commit fraud. We're gonna let
them commit fraud because we think it's okay, it's your
taxpayer money. Too bad, that case is gonna be appealed.
But just think of the time and the churn, and
if they are receiving Medicaid payments and they can continue
to receive them either even though they're under this suspicion,
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the problem is just gonna get worse.
Speaker 8 (13:41):
I mean, it's outrageous if from the people who brought you,
black people can't get voter ID because it's racist. Comes
fraud is a cultural tradition. It's just the expression of
their heritage. It's not actually robbing taxpayers of billions dollars.
It's insane, it's insulting, and it's one of the things
that we regularly try to expose and document here at
the Drill Down podcast that we do each week, which
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you can find at the drill down dot com. Right now,
we're filling in for Sean Handy. He's Peter Schweizer. I'm
Eric Eggers. We want to hear from you the listening public.
What are your Thanksgiving plans? What are you worried about
talking about UH? And what else is on your mind?
Give us the call. It's one eight hundred nine to
one sewn one eight hundred nine four one seven three
two six. We right back with your phone calls after this.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Are you sick of winning yet?
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Me?
Speaker 10 (14:30):
Either? World leaders, union, businesses, social media. They all want
to work with Trump. He said what he was going
to do, and then he did it.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
The White House is open for business and America is
bad bad narnis on right now.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Hi.
Speaker 7 (15:11):
If Peter Schweitzer are filling in for Sean Hannity, I'm
sitting here with Eric Egers. We're going to go to
the phones. Let's go to Jeff from Las Vegas, who's
been waiting so patiently. Jeff, how are you hi?
Speaker 11 (15:23):
Eric?
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Peter.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
I just want to say I think you're one of
the best investigators on the planet. I'm curious what your
next book, when it's going to be out, what it's
going to be about. And two, I'm curious with your talent,
why you haven't investigated the changes that the Democratic Party
has gone through the last five years, how much more
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like the old Confederacory has become, or maybe even the
Bolshevik Party done.
Speaker 7 (15:52):
Jeff, thanks so much for the call. I always appreciate
hearing from readers. Is very thoughtful of yous. So of
a book coming out January the twentieth, I cannot talk
about it. That is my agreement with my publisher. It
hasn't been officially announced coming out January the twentieth. It
is the most frightening book I've ever written. I can't
give you the title of the subject matter, but I
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appreciate you very much for asking. And I'm very very
proud of the research team here at GAI. We've broken
so many big stories over the years. The Clinton corruption.
We were the first with the Hunter Biden corruption, insider
trading on the stock market, you name it. So there
is more to com.
Speaker 8 (16:31):
Eric, and you're also a student of Russian history. I
swear that Jeff is not your agent, but he could
be because he sets you up so nicely. It was
very sweet, Jeff fan Actually he once this book comes out,
just the peak behind the Courton Peter does have to
do another book, so maybe he will do one on
how the Democratic Party has become like the Bolsheviks. What's
your just quick assessment of that. Do you see any
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parallels there?
Speaker 7 (16:53):
Yeah, no, it's interesting. I mean the tendency to focus
on violent acts rather than loyal opposition and the centralization
of power. They want the centralization of power.
Speaker 8 (17:03):
Well, and just to you know, we're having fun. It's
the day before Thanksgiving, but just the you know, we
began this show on a very somber note. To that point,
we know, we we have to remind you we are
dealing with We do not know what the condition is
of those two National Guards troops, and there was previous
report and they'd passed away. We now told her in
a critical condition and we hope and pray for their safety.
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But you did hear Tim Burschett say that he draws
a direct connection between the shooting that occurred today and
exactly the atmosphere and the culture that's existing within that
Democratic Party. To Jeff's point, we'll be right back after this.
Give us a call. One hundred and nine four one
seven three two six hundred and seven three nine two
six we're back here. When the Sean Handy Raiders show,
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Speaker 10 (18:17):
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Speaker 7 (18:33):
Happy Thanksgiving, America. It's Peter Schweizer. I'm here with Eric Eggers.
We're filling in for Sean. Tell us about your Thanksgiving plans?
Are you going to talk politics at the Thanksgiving table?
One one seven three nine four one seven three two
six Eric, I have started already with some Christmas shopping
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and I've decided the perfect gift for you.
Speaker 8 (18:56):
What's that? And I'm terrified of this because you are
notoriously let's call it the militaristic in terms of your
commercial tastes.
Speaker 7 (19:03):
Well, I don't know if I would say that, but
I ran across this on social media and I thought
this was fascinating. Tractor Supply Company is offering the Reaper spear.
It's three feet long, it has an eight inch blade.
It's completely sold out. It is completely sold out. This
item is designed for piercing, prying, impaling, and breaching. It's
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designed for hunting tactical uses in general protection. It notes
on its website. This item could not be shipped to Massachusetts,
so I don't know what they have against spears in Massachusetts.
Speaker 8 (19:36):
What do they have against protection?
Speaker 7 (19:39):
But I think this is great. It talks about American independence,
about Americans wanting to care for themselves, defend themselves, hunt
for their food. This gives me faith in America. And
I'm gonna buy one of these for you when it
comes back to being available because they are completely sold out.
Speaker 8 (19:56):
It does the opposite for me, Peter, because its name
is the Reaper into survival hunting spear. Yeah, and you know,
I respect everyone's rights to go out and hunt and
defend themselves. It seems to be to be an inefficient
way to hunt, like a spear.
Speaker 9 (20:13):
It's fun. It's fun.
Speaker 7 (20:14):
I know there have been technological advances guns and things
like that. You know, you could even use a bone arrow,
but there's just something fun I think about going out
there with a spirit.
Speaker 8 (20:23):
What does it tell you about where we are as
a country that they hunting in survival spear is currently
sold out.
Speaker 7 (20:29):
I think the fact that people are interested in sort
of traditional rituals you're seeing has been reported interest in
Orthodox churches, right people are because of what happened with
Charlie Kirk and the tragedy there, people are looking for
more traditional orientations. You're finding a lot of younger couples
are going back to sort of more traditional ways of entertainment.
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They're sort of unplugging. So I think this is just
a throwback people. People want that connection, that sense that
they're caring for themselves. I think the Reaper is a
great to.
Speaker 8 (21:00):
Go back to the previous call. This is what makes
Peter Schweitzer an elite researcher. Only someone with his talent
can connect people going to orthodox churches, people married at
a younger age, and spear purchases.
Speaker 9 (21:15):
Absolutely, Let's see what.
Speaker 8 (21:18):
Winston from Texas has to say. Winston, thank you for
calling in. You're on with Peter Schwiz and Eric Eggers
here on the Seawan Handy radio show.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Ghetto. Yeah. Hello, Hey Winston, Hey guys, how are you
sorry to be talking on a sad moment with the
two guardsmen? My heart goes out to him.
Speaker 9 (21:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
I wanted to address the situation where you have people
who know better should be doing better, and that comes
with Mark Kelly and the Seditious Six as they call them.
They're subversive. They apparently they don't understand the UC. They
also don't understand that we have impressionable young people, young
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folks that are just starting out their lives to become
military folks for us, standing up for the country and
protecting the country, and they're putting deceptive ideas in their minds.
And this whole thing smells of a syop. I know
it sounds weird, but I think that they're getting in
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here and they are planning the seed of division with
our young military folks, and it's putting the country in
a bad situation. This is a national security issue and
there should be retribution for what's going on. I really
believe that some people need to be called back to duty,
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addressed accordingly with the UCMJ, and nip this stuff in
the butt. And this all began, make no mistake, It
all began with Mark Milly when he made that decision
to use his position as the military leader to call
a foreign country, which also happened to be a communist country,
and start telling them that if Trump does something, he
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will reach out to them. The military and the civilian
leadership are separated for a specific reason. We are a
civilian ran country and I served, so I get it.
And these young men and women that are in these
positions that are being told divisive stuff like this, they're
using their feelings more so than they are their logic
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and knowledge.
Speaker 9 (23:34):
Yeah, you're exactly right. We covered this earlier.
Speaker 7 (23:37):
By the way, this has been something Left has done
several times. They did this during the Iraq War. They
did this during the twenty twenty riots, the George Floyd riots,
where they encouraged and there were actually enlisted soldiers who
decided to declare that the orders to go to Iraq
or the orders to be deployed with the National Guard
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in Chicago were illegal and they were not going to participate.
Those guys all ended up. In some cases they got
hard labor. I mean, they were court martialed, they went
and they had hard labor. And all these guys in Washington,
DC that are encouraging them to do it pay no
price for this whatsoever. So they're using these young men
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and women in uniform as sacrificial lambs to try to
prove their political point. And you're exactly right. It is
designed to sow opposition and division with the armed forces.
It's a very very dangerous game they're playing well.
Speaker 8 (24:32):
And while we await updates on the condition of those
two National guardsmen who have been shot in the Washington,
DC area, we have conflicting statements from the governor of
West Virginia where they come from. What we do know
is Elisa Slotkin was on ABC News this weekend literally
addressed in the idea of National Guards troops, and we
can play the audio perhaps in a little bit, but
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she essentially said, I know people and she was talking
about the idea of these National Guards troops are nervous
and they might make a mistake furthering the idea that
they present not something that protects national safety, but they
themselves pose a threat to national safety, which then you
heard a member of Congress on this program connect the
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dots between comments like that and actions like today, And
so I do think, unfortunately it is it's a reality,
and I think it's interesting to see like this is
not it's not uncommon now, that's happening more and more,
and so unfortunately tragies like today may also become less infrequent.
Speaker 7 (25:33):
Well, and you wonder what is it actually going to take.
We have people now that have shot and died because
of the words the resistance that the left is imposted.
What's it going to actually take for them to stop.
I'm not sure that they will stop. And that's the
scary thing.
Speaker 9 (25:49):
Well, well, the.
Speaker 7 (25:50):
Situation only get worse, will the number of fatalities increase,
and they will just double down on the rhetoric because again,
it's not affecting them. They're not paying a price for us,
their family members who are are are suffering these horrific crimes. Well,
it's other people.
Speaker 8 (26:06):
And to the point, after Donald Trump was shot last summer,
they said, Okay, we're going to dial down the rhetoric.
We're not we're not going to call him a Nazi
or a fascist anymore. And then Charlie Kirk was shot
and ultimately killed, and then it was like, hey, we've
got to have a better ownership of the consequences of
our rhetoric. And now you continue to see that that
just hasn't happened, and unfortunately these events still occur. Let's
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hear from James in Florida, who I think has some
very real questions about what might be behind this.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Yes, thanks for taking my call. The best speaker in
the world. So will be paced with women Okay.
Speaker 9 (26:38):
No worries.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Do you believe that there might have been an outside
source or do you believe that there might be a
person or an organization that prompted these people to tell
the military to resist our president's orders. And I'll hang
up and listen to your response.
Speaker 9 (26:51):
It's a great question.
Speaker 7 (26:52):
I don't I haven't seen any evidence for that, but
I would not exclude it. And we know that this
has been a tactic of the left going back to
two thousand, that's when there were members of the military.
There are three or four who said we believe that
the Iraq war is illegal, that President Bush does not
have the authority. So to the caller's point, we don't
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know if there's a foreign element, but it is certainly
an organized effort. There are calls for this to happen.
It's happened in the past, and it's happening now. And
as we mentioned in that first hour, the definition of
what they consider an illegal military act involves pretty much
everything that Donald Trump has been doing right now. They
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say it would be illegal for the military refuse in
order to help with any immigration enforcement, any attacks water
on ships in international waters. That's the sort of anti
drug interdiction that's taking place right now, any attack on
Venezuela or Mexico or Nigeria, any preemptive military strike on Iran,
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which is of course already has happened. So in other words,
they're essentially saying that the military pilots who participated in
that surgical strike in Iran should not have done so.
They were engaging in a legal military action. This is
organized and this is something that thought has gone into,
So I would not preclude the fact that there's certainly
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foreign elements that like this, that this is going on.
Speaker 8 (28:19):
It's the day before Thanksgiving when people come together despite
their differences, because they are united by some common link,
either by blood or by marriage or by just a
social circle. And that is actually, I think interwoven into
who we should be as a country. You is a
phrase sometimes the loyal opposition, specifically, you think we've gotten
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away from that. I know you first kind of broke
in professionally in Ronald Reagan's Washington d C. And I'm
reminded of a story that Tip O'Neil would tell that
they would go to the Reagan the White House and
people and the staffer would say, oh, well, here's where
we sort of plot against you, and Ronald Reagan would
say not after five o'clock, you don't, Yeah, because we're
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all in this together. And I just like, what do
you make of where we are today versus where we
used to be and what it kind of means for
what's going to happen next?
Speaker 9 (29:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (29:08):
I mean, when you're in a situation where you are
questioning the legitimacy of a duly elected president won the
popular votes, you can't argue it was an electoral college.
Fluke won the electoral college did so in a substantial way.
When asked what illgal military actions has he taken? While
he hasn't taken any when saying that he's going to
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be a dictator or a king, they can't demonstrate an
example where there's been a court order that he's violated.
Speaker 9 (29:36):
He's followed all of them. So the point is.
Speaker 7 (29:38):
That they continue with these actions, and it is highly
destructive because what it does is it undermines people's faith
in electric government and in institutions. I understand people are frustrated.
I understand they know there's a lot of corruption, and
there is systematic corruption, But what they're doing is engaging
in I would basically sy it's a guerrilla warfare against
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a duly elected president because they are in the mode
of resistance, not in the mode of being the loyal opposition.
Speaker 8 (30:10):
And the question becomes either in the mode of resistance
because they actually need to resist, or because they realize
that's actually good business. Donald Trump wreck represents such a
threat to the status quo. He represents such such a
threat to the way Washington works, and how much money
everyone involved in that operation makes that, you know, in
the only way for them to continue to hold their
position to power or continue to seem like we can
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fight against him. That's what the government shutdown was against
was about. That's what this video, the Citition six is about.
It is gross and it you know, there's a lot
of money behind and that's one of the things we
continue to spend our time here at the Government Accountability
Institute trying to document. It's a great point, it's a
great question, and we thank you for the call. He
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Happy Thanksgiving everybody. It's Peter Schweizer. That's Eric Eggers. We
are filling in for Sean. We have been taking your
calls about Thanksgiving. Butch is going to tell us about
what he does with his family for Thanksgiving.
Speaker 9 (31:59):
Butch, go ahead, yes.
Speaker 11 (32:01):
Thank you. Back in nineteen eighty four, we had a
deaf in the family a couple of days before Thanksgiving
and it kind of took all the wind out of
the holidays. So my wife and another friend of hers said,
you know, rather than going around moping around, let's do
something to get through the holidays. So decided to go camping. Well,
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the first camping trip was four adults and four children,
and over the years it's been every year we've done
the same thing with them. This is our twenty sixth
year and the children have grown and have children of
their own and grandchildren of their own. And last year
we had forty five people for Thanksgiving dinner. It's turned
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into a five day camping thing between the two families,
and last year we out have nine campsites and twenty
some people for camping out here. And then, like I
said to Serty, some people for Thanksgiving dinner.
Speaker 9 (33:03):
That's amazing.
Speaker 7 (33:04):
Butch, what I love about this story is you took
a tragedy, you were resilient, and you gave thanks. Thanks
so much for that call. It's a great hopeful ending
to this broadcast. I've really really enjoyed this. I'm thankful
on Thanksgiving. I'm thankful to God, to my family, I'm
thankful to you Eric. We've been doing this together now
for so many years. I'm thankful for the team at
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the Government Accountability Institute. Three members stayed with us and
have helped us here. That would be Paul, Grant and Lucas.
And we also want to thank Sean for giving us
this opportunity, for Linda for all the great help that
she always gives us in so many ways, and for
Jason and Katie helping out as well. Thank you all,
and happy Thanksgiving to everyone.
Speaker 5 (33:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (33:45):
I'm also thankful to the people that help make this happen.
I'm thankful for the opportunity to be here. And I
will say I think you know, optimism is a choice,
and you had just heard from Butch that his family
made the choice to be optimistic, and I think as
a country, we have to be intentionally optimistic. Look, I
remember five years ago, we've seen stuff get censored and
people were locked into their homes, and that's not where
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we are anymore. And I think the fact that you
and I can do this program and call and hold
powerful people to account is a reflection of what continues
to make this country the greatest in the world. And
as long as people can do that, then there's hope.
So we thank you. We hope everyone in the country
has a wonderful Thanksgiving and we cannot wait to talk
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We are going to get to your calls and we
want you to join the conversation one eight nine four,
one seven, three two six tell us about politics and Thanksgiving?
Are you going to talk about it at the dinner table?
It was interesting we talked to Tim Burchett last hour
of very outspook congressmen from Tennessee, always candidate, always open,
frustrated by the corruption Washington, DC. We are certainly familiar
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with that. We're going to continue to monitor the situation,
of course in Washington with this tragic shooting of two
National Guards members. But how are you feeling about how
things are going in Washington, Eric, I mean there's a
lot of people maybe concerned that things aren't going as
quickly as they thought they would in terms of cleaning
the place up.
Speaker 8 (02:24):
Yeah, if you missed our conversation with Tim Burchett at
the beginning of last Hour, we will post it on
our Twitter feeds, and you can find Peter Schweizer and
myself at Twitter and please follow our drill Down podcast
on Twitter as well. But I thought he was incredibly
candid with a number of things number one. He talked
about the Ukraine deal, which we began this program with.
There's some hope that you'll see a deal struck by
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at the end of this year, and he talked about
quite a frankly, the people he thinks that are opposing
this deal, opposing it because they're making money off of
the program. Making money off of public service is literally
what we do here at the government accountabiliys do not
us personally, but we docum at those that do that.
That's a constant feature and topic of our Drill Down
podcast and to that end, you know, insider trading is
(03:08):
another topic that we've covered extensively. You wrote a book
on it in twenty eleven called Throw Them All Out
in which Nancy Pelosi was exposed is being able to
participate on an insider deal with Visa and her husband's
buying selling trucks, and unfortunately that practice has only continued.
We said last year was a record selling year from
stock trades, nine thousand stock trades bought and sold by
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members of Congress. This year on track to far exceed that,
over thirteen thousand individual stock trades happening within the last
three hundred and sixty five days and he said, you know,
Tim Burgey, I think is quite candid. We would love
to ban this practice. We're going to introduce the bill
to do so. We don't expect it to happen. We
don't expect it to pass.
Speaker 9 (03:48):
Well.
Speaker 7 (03:49):
Hopefully he's not being too pessimistic. I want to be
an optimist, but of course we need to be realists.
So the insider's trading thing is a real problem. We
have bipartisan support for banning it. We also have Republicans
and Democrats that have profited from that arrangement.
Speaker 9 (04:05):
And we're following other stories as well.
Speaker 7 (04:07):
We just had an investigation a come out on DEI
fraud people. Assuming Trump coming in he was going to
get rid of DEI issues, this is actually an opportunity
for people to get rich from DEI programs. This is
with the Small Business Administration's eight A program. You can
find out more about this actually zero Hedge. They wrote
(04:28):
a great piece on our investigation today and you can
follow my feed on Twitter. But essentially, this is a
program that is a set aside for quote unquote disadvantaged
minority contractors to get contracts and to get loans from
the federal government.
Speaker 8 (04:45):
And before you get give out the details because it
is quite alarming and I think people will be shocked
to find out that despite as you said, Donald Trump
campaign and we're going to get rid of DEI, and
we've seen the DOZE program get in there and kind
of eliminate a lot of these programs from US, the
IDEA and others. But you just said eight A, So
that's like it's d The letters DEI have gone away, Yeah,
(05:06):
but they've been replaced with these very bureaucratic sounding sub sections.
And this is the world within at least one federal
agency where the DEI practice still very much exists.
Speaker 7 (05:16):
Yeah, that's right. And basically what they are trying to
do is encourage minority owned businesses. But in practice, what
happens is you get a couple of people they can
be minorities, you know in terms of race or engender
or sexual preference or whatever, and they set up an LLC.
There's like two of them, and then they partner with
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a massive conglomerate and it needs to be an arrangement
fifty one forty nine and essentially, you know, the contractors
that are the quote unquote disadvantaged group get preferential treatment.
They do oftentimes very little of the work, and yet
they reap these enormous profits and benefits. And as we
(05:58):
point out in the report, or the Department of Justice
just found one example where a USAID officer bagged one
million dollars in bribes while steering a five hundred million
dollar contract to firms because of their quote unquote special status.
It's a massive problem. James O'Keefe did a video on this,
(06:19):
So the problem continues. DOGE did not get rid of it,
and we need to continue to fight this because it's
a problem just because insiders are making money, but we've
also found out examples of fraud where actually this money
ends up going overseas to some pretty nasty groups.
Speaker 8 (06:36):
Yeah, we want to talk to you about You know
this is this is not the most pleasant news you're
going to encounter the day before Thanksgiving, and we do
want to talk to you about, like what's on your
political recipe and conversational recipe as you end Thanksgiving. A
poll shows more and more Americans are willing to talk
about want to talk about politics at Thanksgiving dinner table.
We want to hear from you and what you want
(06:57):
to talk about. Give us a call it's one eight
hundred and nine four one on Sean and nine for
one seven, three, two six. But absolutely what has happened
in Washington, d C. Is there's so much money slashing around.
Of course, you and I have done a program actually
on the Sean Handy television show, which we document is
called Boomtown. It's about how wealthy Washington, d C. Had become,
and you had seven of the ten wealthiest counties in
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the country. So of the top ten wealthiest counties in
this country, of which there are thousands of counties, seven
of them were immediately around the Washington DC area. It's
it's increasing the outer touch, which is why they rationalize
things like this SBA program and why Nancy Pelosi can say, oh,
I think it's okay to participate in inside of trading
in Congress, but unfortunately it's worse than just self enrichment.
(07:43):
What you're alluding to is there's new reporting from Christopher
Ruffo that you've got a number of social welfare programs
in Minnesota that the Somali populations are taking advantage of,
and unfortunately, with little oversight you've seen whether it's a
program intended for housing, you know, or program in ten
and four autism. You see these people take advantage of
(08:04):
it in significant ways. You see significant growth. It starts
off with three million, it grows to one hundred million.
We've documented previously there was a feeding program where the
same thing happened also with these Somali populations. But the
new reporting now shows that it's not just waste and fraud.
It's the fraudulent money then ends up going overseas. It
goes via these jualas, and it ends up literally in
(08:26):
al Qaeda linked groups in Somali and elsewhere. And so
you know that's it's not just the waste of tax
payer money, it's waste of tax pay money that then
goes to groups who very much want to do us harm.
Speaker 7 (08:37):
Yeah, we're funding our enemies. And by the way, these
are feeding programs, these are EBT programs. We did a
report at the Government Accountability Institute back in twenty seventeen
called EBT Fraud and showing how people were signing up
for EBT you know, the food stamp program essentially, and
they were running up balances. By the way, I never
realized you could run up large balances on these EBT
(09:00):
cards by not using them in some cases sixty thousand dollars.
Speaker 8 (09:04):
Hey tell me you're an out of touch elitist. Without
telling me you're an out of touch of leadis. I
don't know how to commit EBT fraud, says the wealthy Audi.
Speaker 7 (09:10):
Well, it's yes, it's it's it's amazing to me how
these programs don't have basic stop gaps in them. So
you have these EBT cards that get these huge sums.
They sell it, you know, for eighty cents on the dollar,
let's say, and then that money is used to fund
terrorist organizations which are targeting the United States. It was
all ship Bob, which is a terrorist organization in Africa.
(09:31):
It's also been linked to al Qaida. The drug cartels
in Mexico benefit from US. And even when there are prosecutions,
there's this case in Minnesota where.
Speaker 8 (09:41):
This is stunning, by the way.
Speaker 7 (09:42):
Yeah, I mean it's absolutely stunning. You had a seven
point two million dollar medicaid fraud scheme. Seven two point
two million dollars kind of small, basically small ball in
the large scheme of things.
Speaker 8 (09:52):
Compared to Minnesota fraud.
Speaker 7 (09:54):
Absolutely, yeah, But they got this this Smali immigrant usef
who who was involved in this case and We're going
to play an audio clip here in a minute of
the jury foreman talking about this case. Prosecutors brought the evidence,
the case took place, the jury convicted. It took him
basically four hours, but the judge decided after the jury
(10:17):
said we find him guilty. The judge decided, well, no,
maybe there were cultural reasons why this took place. We're
not sure that was criminal intent. Listen to the audio tape.
This is the jury foreman responding to what the judge said.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
I am shocked. I'm shocked based off of all of
the evidence that was presented to us and the obvious
guilt that we saw. Based off of the said evidence,
it was not a difficult decision whatsoever. The deliberation took
probably four hours at most, based off of the state's
evidence that was presented. I was beyond a reasonable doubt.
Speaker 8 (10:54):
So I want to connect it back to something Tim
Burch said, because you've seen some reporting about how members
of the House GOP caucus are disaffected, they're sad, they
allegedly are going to resign, and he said, that's just
the deep state pushing back, and I think these are Unfortunately,
this judge is an example of the deep state kind
of pushing back on like this is the business model,
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this is the status quo. They're blaming cultural issues. This
feeding program that happened in Minnesota several years ago, they
did the same thing. It was these smally populations and
they grew and grew, and they said, oh, it's not
that they're committing fraud. It's not that they just because
they can't document all of the services that didn't exist
that people are getting, like gold bars at weddings, these
lavish gifts that they're giving. It's a cultural issue, it's
(11:36):
not a fraud issue. And that's a complete lie. And
so it just shows that it's not enough to just
kind of go in and even like we're going to
prosecute this stuff. As we documented on a recent episode
of The Drill Down the federal government in December, So
Joe Biden loses, Donald Trump comes in and he says,
we're going to hold people accountable, We're going to do
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the right thing. We're getting rid of waste fraud abuse.
So the person who was in charge of CMS at
the time issues a memo and says, listen, hey, people
who are in charge of investigating fraud within these welfare programs.
Even if you suspect someone is committing medicaid fraud, which
this smality case of Minnesota is an example of that,
even if you suspect that, you are not allowed to
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remove them from the program. This is official memo from
the person in charge of this. And you know, this
is consistent with where the federal government has been on
other examples of fraud. They've told states repeatedly with EBT
and snap fraud, if you document more fraud, you're going
to actually be penalized. The incentives are actually for to
cover up fraud. It's been a massive problem and it
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speaks to the sea change the Trump administration is attempting
to manifest and taking over. And so for people that
are frustrated that more hasn't been done, I just going
back to Tim Burchett's comments, like, it's a big, big
forces trying to fight on this thing, a lot.
Speaker 9 (12:55):
Of people making a lot of money.
Speaker 7 (12:56):
And by the way, this position that fraud is kind
of a cultural misunderstanding, first of all, enormously insulting to immigrants,
basically saying, well, you know, you don't really understand what
fraud is. You know that enormously insulting, even more insulting
to the American people because what they're essentially saying, what
this judge is essentially saying, is I don't care. We
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don't care if they're gonna commit fraud. We're gonna let
them commit fraud because we think it's okay, it's your
taxpayer money. Too bad, that case is gonna be appealed.
But just think of the time and the churn, and
if they are receiving Medicaid payments and they can continue
to receive them either even though they're under this suspicion,
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the problem is just gonna get worse.
Speaker 8 (13:41):
I mean, it's outrageous if from the people who brought you,
black people can't get voter ID because it's racist. Comes
fraud is a cultural tradition. It's just the expression of
their heritage. It's not actually robbing taxpayers of billions dollars.
It's insane, it's insulting, and it's one of the things
that we regularly try to expose and document here at
the Drill Down podcast that we do each week, which
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you can find at the drill down dot com. Right now,
we're filling in for Sean Handy. He's Peter Schweizer. I'm
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What are your Thanksgiving plans? What are you worried about
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Speaker 2 (14:27):
Are you sick of winning yet?
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Me?
Speaker 10 (14:30):
Either? World leaders, union, businesses, social media. They all want
to work with Trump. He said what he was going
to do, and then he did it.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
The White House is open for business and America is
bad bad narnis on right now.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Hi.
Speaker 7 (15:11):
If Peter Schweitzer are filling in for Sean Hannity, I'm
sitting here with Eric Egers. We're going to go to
the phones. Let's go to Jeff from Las Vegas, who's
been waiting so patiently. Jeff, how are you hi?
Speaker 11 (15:23):
Eric?
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Peter.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
I just want to say I think you're one of
the best investigators on the planet. I'm curious what your
next book, when it's going to be out, what it's
going to be about. And two, I'm curious with your talent,
why you haven't investigated the changes that the Democratic Party
has gone through the last five years, how much more
(15:46):
like the old Confederacory has become, or maybe even the
Bolshevik Party done.
Speaker 7 (15:52):
Jeff, thanks so much for the call. I always appreciate
hearing from readers. Is very thoughtful of yous. So of
a book coming out January the twentieth, I cannot talk
about it. That is my agreement with my publisher. It
hasn't been officially announced coming out January the twentieth. It
is the most frightening book I've ever written. I can't
give you the title of the subject matter, but I
(16:13):
appreciate you very much for asking. And I'm very very
proud of the research team here at GAI. We've broken
so many big stories over the years. The Clinton corruption.
We were the first with the Hunter Biden corruption, insider
trading on the stock market, you name it. So there
is more to com.
Speaker 8 (16:31):
Eric, and you're also a student of Russian history. I
swear that Jeff is not your agent, but he could
be because he sets you up so nicely. It was
very sweet, Jeff fan Actually he once this book comes out,
just the peak behind the Courton Peter does have to
do another book, so maybe he will do one on
how the Democratic Party has become like the Bolsheviks. What's
your just quick assessment of that. Do you see any
(16:52):
parallels there?
Speaker 7 (16:53):
Yeah, no, it's interesting. I mean the tendency to focus
on violent acts rather than loyal opposition and the centralization
of power. They want the centralization of power.
Speaker 8 (17:03):
Well, and just to you know, we're having fun. It's
the day before Thanksgiving, but just the you know, we
began this show on a very somber note. To that point,
we know, we we have to remind you we are
dealing with We do not know what the condition is
of those two National Guards troops, and there was previous
report and they'd passed away. We now told her in
a critical condition and we hope and pray for their safety.
(17:24):
But you did hear Tim Burschett say that he draws
a direct connection between the shooting that occurred today and
exactly the atmosphere and the culture that's existing within that
Democratic Party. To Jeff's point, we'll be right back after this.
Give us a call. One hundred and nine four one
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Speaker 7 (18:33):
Happy Thanksgiving, America. It's Peter Schweizer. I'm here with Eric Eggers.
We're filling in for Sean. Tell us about your Thanksgiving plans?
Are you going to talk politics at the Thanksgiving table?
One one seven three nine four one seven three two
six Eric, I have started already with some Christmas shopping
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and I've decided the perfect gift for you.
Speaker 8 (18:56):
What's that? And I'm terrified of this because you are
notoriously let's call it the militaristic in terms of your
commercial tastes.
Speaker 7 (19:03):
Well, I don't know if I would say that, but
I ran across this on social media and I thought
this was fascinating. Tractor Supply Company is offering the Reaper spear.
It's three feet long, it has an eight inch blade.
It's completely sold out. It is completely sold out. This
item is designed for piercing, prying, impaling, and breaching. It's
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designed for hunting tactical uses in general protection. It notes
on its website. This item could not be shipped to Massachusetts,
so I don't know what they have against spears in Massachusetts.
Speaker 8 (19:36):
What do they have against protection?
Speaker 7 (19:39):
But I think this is great. It talks about American independence,
about Americans wanting to care for themselves, defend themselves, hunt
for their food. This gives me faith in America. And
I'm gonna buy one of these for you when it
comes back to being available because they are completely sold out.
Speaker 8 (19:56):
It does the opposite for me, Peter, because its name
is the Reaper into survival hunting spear. Yeah, and you know,
I respect everyone's rights to go out and hunt and
defend themselves. It seems to be to be an inefficient
way to hunt, like a spear.
Speaker 9 (20:13):
It's fun. It's fun.
Speaker 7 (20:14):
I know there have been technological advances guns and things
like that. You know, you could even use a bone arrow,
but there's just something fun I think about going out
there with a spirit.
Speaker 8 (20:23):
What does it tell you about where we are as
a country that they hunting in survival spear is currently
sold out.
Speaker 7 (20:29):
I think the fact that people are interested in sort
of traditional rituals you're seeing has been reported interest in
Orthodox churches, right people are because of what happened with
Charlie Kirk and the tragedy there, people are looking for
more traditional orientations. You're finding a lot of younger couples
are going back to sort of more traditional ways of entertainment.
(20:51):
They're sort of unplugging. So I think this is just
a throwback people. People want that connection, that sense that
they're caring for themselves. I think the Reaper is a
great to.
Speaker 8 (21:00):
Go back to the previous call. This is what makes
Peter Schweitzer an elite researcher. Only someone with his talent
can connect people going to orthodox churches, people married at
a younger age, and spear purchases.
Speaker 9 (21:15):
Absolutely, Let's see what.
Speaker 8 (21:18):
Winston from Texas has to say. Winston, thank you for
calling in. You're on with Peter Schwiz and Eric Eggers
here on the Seawan Handy radio show.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Ghetto. Yeah. Hello, Hey Winston, Hey guys, how are you
sorry to be talking on a sad moment with the
two guardsmen? My heart goes out to him.
Speaker 9 (21:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
I wanted to address the situation where you have people
who know better should be doing better, and that comes
with Mark Kelly and the Seditious Six as they call them.
They're subversive. They apparently they don't understand the UC. They
also don't understand that we have impressionable young people, young
(22:05):
folks that are just starting out their lives to become
military folks for us, standing up for the country and
protecting the country, and they're putting deceptive ideas in their minds.
And this whole thing smells of a syop. I know
it sounds weird, but I think that they're getting in
(22:26):
here and they are planning the seed of division with
our young military folks, and it's putting the country in
a bad situation. This is a national security issue and
there should be retribution for what's going on. I really
believe that some people need to be called back to duty,
(22:47):
addressed accordingly with the UCMJ, and nip this stuff in
the butt. And this all began, make no mistake, It
all began with Mark Milly when he made that decision
to use his position as the military leader to call
a foreign country, which also happened to be a communist country,
and start telling them that if Trump does something, he
(23:10):
will reach out to them. The military and the civilian
leadership are separated for a specific reason. We are a
civilian ran country and I served, so I get it.
And these young men and women that are in these
positions that are being told divisive stuff like this, they're
using their feelings more so than they are their logic
(23:32):
and knowledge.
Speaker 9 (23:34):
Yeah, you're exactly right. We covered this earlier.
Speaker 7 (23:37):
By the way, this has been something Left has done
several times. They did this during the Iraq War. They
did this during the twenty twenty riots, the George Floyd riots,
where they encouraged and there were actually enlisted soldiers who
decided to declare that the orders to go to Iraq
or the orders to be deployed with the National Guard
(23:57):
in Chicago were illegal and they were not going to participate.
Those guys all ended up. In some cases they got
hard labor. I mean, they were court martialed, they went
and they had hard labor. And all these guys in Washington,
DC that are encouraging them to do it pay no
price for this whatsoever. So they're using these young men
(24:18):
and women in uniform as sacrificial lambs to try to
prove their political point. And you're exactly right. It is
designed to sow opposition and division with the armed forces.
It's a very very dangerous game they're playing well.
Speaker 8 (24:32):
And while we await updates on the condition of those
two National guardsmen who have been shot in the Washington,
DC area, we have conflicting statements from the governor of
West Virginia where they come from. What we do know
is Elisa Slotkin was on ABC News this weekend literally
addressed in the idea of National Guards troops, and we
can play the audio perhaps in a little bit, but
(24:52):
she essentially said, I know people and she was talking
about the idea of these National Guards troops are nervous
and they might make a mistake furthering the idea that
they present not something that protects national safety, but they
themselves pose a threat to national safety, which then you
heard a member of Congress on this program connect the
(25:13):
dots between comments like that and actions like today, And
so I do think, unfortunately it is it's a reality,
and I think it's interesting to see like this is
not it's not uncommon now, that's happening more and more,
and so unfortunately tragies like today may also become less infrequent.
Speaker 7 (25:33):
Well, and you wonder what is it actually going to take.
We have people now that have shot and died because
of the words the resistance that the left is imposted.
What's it going to actually take for them to stop.
I'm not sure that they will stop. And that's the
scary thing.
Speaker 9 (25:49):
Well, well, the.
Speaker 7 (25:50):
Situation only get worse, will the number of fatalities increase,
and they will just double down on the rhetoric because again,
it's not affecting them. They're not paying a price for us,
their family members who are are are suffering these horrific crimes. Well,
it's other people.
Speaker 8 (26:06):
And to the point, after Donald Trump was shot last summer,
they said, Okay, we're going to dial down the rhetoric.
We're not we're not going to call him a Nazi
or a fascist anymore. And then Charlie Kirk was shot
and ultimately killed, and then it was like, hey, we've
got to have a better ownership of the consequences of
our rhetoric. And now you continue to see that that
just hasn't happened, and unfortunately these events still occur. Let's
(26:28):
hear from James in Florida, who I think has some
very real questions about what might be behind this.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Yes, thanks for taking my call. The best speaker in
the world. So will be paced with women Okay.
Speaker 9 (26:38):
No worries.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Do you believe that there might have been an outside
source or do you believe that there might be a
person or an organization that prompted these people to tell
the military to resist our president's orders. And I'll hang
up and listen to your response.
Speaker 9 (26:51):
It's a great question.
Speaker 7 (26:52):
I don't I haven't seen any evidence for that, but
I would not exclude it. And we know that this
has been a tactic of the left going back to
two thousand, that's when there were members of the military.
There are three or four who said we believe that
the Iraq war is illegal, that President Bush does not
have the authority. So to the caller's point, we don't
(27:13):
know if there's a foreign element, but it is certainly
an organized effort. There are calls for this to happen.
It's happened in the past, and it's happening now. And
as we mentioned in that first hour, the definition of
what they consider an illegal military act involves pretty much
everything that Donald Trump has been doing right now. They
(27:34):
say it would be illegal for the military refuse in
order to help with any immigration enforcement, any attacks water
on ships in international waters. That's the sort of anti
drug interdiction that's taking place right now, any attack on
Venezuela or Mexico or Nigeria, any preemptive military strike on Iran,
(27:55):
which is of course already has happened. So in other words,
they're essentially saying that the military pilots who participated in
that surgical strike in Iran should not have done so.
They were engaging in a legal military action. This is
organized and this is something that thought has gone into,
So I would not preclude the fact that there's certainly
(28:15):
foreign elements that like this, that this is going on.
Speaker 8 (28:19):
It's the day before Thanksgiving when people come together despite
their differences, because they are united by some common link,
either by blood or by marriage or by just a
social circle. And that is actually, I think interwoven into
who we should be as a country. You is a
phrase sometimes the loyal opposition, specifically, you think we've gotten
(28:39):
away from that. I know you first kind of broke
in professionally in Ronald Reagan's Washington d C. And I'm
reminded of a story that Tip O'Neil would tell that
they would go to the Reagan the White House and
people and the staffer would say, oh, well, here's where
we sort of plot against you, and Ronald Reagan would
say not after five o'clock, you don't, Yeah, because we're
(28:59):
all in this together. And I just like, what do
you make of where we are today versus where we
used to be and what it kind of means for
what's going to happen next?
Speaker 9 (29:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (29:08):
I mean, when you're in a situation where you are
questioning the legitimacy of a duly elected president won the
popular votes, you can't argue it was an electoral college.
Fluke won the electoral college did so in a substantial way.
When asked what illgal military actions has he taken? While
he hasn't taken any when saying that he's going to
(29:30):
be a dictator or a king, they can't demonstrate an
example where there's been a court order that he's violated.
Speaker 9 (29:36):
He's followed all of them. So the point is.
Speaker 7 (29:38):
That they continue with these actions, and it is highly
destructive because what it does is it undermines people's faith
in electric government and in institutions. I understand people are frustrated.
I understand they know there's a lot of corruption, and
there is systematic corruption, But what they're doing is engaging
in I would basically sy it's a guerrilla warfare against
(30:02):
a duly elected president because they are in the mode
of resistance, not in the mode of being the loyal opposition.
Speaker 8 (30:10):
And the question becomes either in the mode of resistance
because they actually need to resist, or because they realize
that's actually good business. Donald Trump wreck represents such a
threat to the status quo. He represents such such a
threat to the way Washington works, and how much money
everyone involved in that operation makes that, you know, in
the only way for them to continue to hold their
position to power or continue to seem like we can
(30:32):
fight against him. That's what the government shutdown was against
was about. That's what this video, the Citition six is about.
It is gross and it you know, there's a lot
of money behind and that's one of the things we
continue to spend our time here at the Government Accountability
Institute trying to document. It's a great point, it's a
great question, and we thank you for the call. He
calls one eight hundred and nine four one seven three
two six one eight hundred and nine four one Sewan.
(30:52):
That is the number we will continue to take calls on.
We have one more segment to go. He is Peter Schweizer.
I Americ Eggers. We are from the Drill Down podcast,
which you can at the drill down dot com. Right now,
we're on Sean Handy's radio show. We're back right after this.
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Speaker 7 (31:47):
Happy Thanksgiving everybody. It's Peter Schweizer. That's Eric Eggers. We
are filling in for Sean. We have been taking your
calls about Thanksgiving. Butch is going to tell us about
what he does with his family for Thanksgiving.
Speaker 9 (31:59):
Butch, go ahead, yes.
Speaker 11 (32:01):
Thank you. Back in nineteen eighty four, we had a
deaf in the family a couple of days before Thanksgiving
and it kind of took all the wind out of
the holidays. So my wife and another friend of hers said,
you know, rather than going around moping around, let's do
something to get through the holidays. So decided to go camping. Well,
(32:23):
the first camping trip was four adults and four children,
and over the years it's been every year we've done
the same thing with them. This is our twenty sixth
year and the children have grown and have children of
their own and grandchildren of their own. And last year
we had forty five people for Thanksgiving dinner. It's turned
(32:44):
into a five day camping thing between the two families,
and last year we out have nine campsites and twenty
some people for camping out here. And then, like I
said to Serty, some people for Thanksgiving dinner.
Speaker 9 (33:03):
That's amazing.
Speaker 7 (33:04):
Butch, what I love about this story is you took
a tragedy, you were resilient, and you gave thanks. Thanks
so much for that call. It's a great hopeful ending
to this broadcast. I've really really enjoyed this. I'm thankful
on Thanksgiving. I'm thankful to God, to my family, I'm
thankful to you Eric. We've been doing this together now
for so many years. I'm thankful for the team at
(33:25):
the Government Accountability Institute. Three members stayed with us and
have helped us here. That would be Paul, Grant and Lucas.
And we also want to thank Sean for giving us
this opportunity, for Linda for all the great help that
she always gives us in so many ways, and for
Jason and Katie helping out as well. Thank you all,
and happy Thanksgiving to everyone.
Speaker 5 (33:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (33:45):
I'm also thankful to the people that help make this happen.
I'm thankful for the opportunity to be here. And I
will say I think you know, optimism is a choice,
and you had just heard from Butch that his family
made the choice to be optimistic, and I think as
a country, we have to be intentionally optimistic. Look, I
remember five years ago, we've seen stuff get censored and
people were locked into their homes, and that's not where
(34:06):
we are anymore. And I think the fact that you
and I can do this program and call and hold
powerful people to account is a reflection of what continues
to make this country the greatest in the world. And
as long as people can do that, then there's hope.
So we thank you. We hope everyone in the country
has a wonderful Thanksgiving and we cannot wait to talk
to you when the next opportunity to guest host for
Sean handicoms for Peter Schweizer, America, Eggers, God bless American
(34:29):
and Happy Thanksgiving.
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