December 2, 2025 • 30 mins
In this compelling episode of The Sean Hannity Show, Sean dives deep into the ongoing controversy surrounding the FBI's actions during the 2016 election, featuring insights from guests like Carter Page, Marco Rubio, and Pam Bondi. As Sean explores the implications of recent developments surrounding James Comey and the investigation's broader narrative, he underscores the frustrations of many Americans concerning accountability for past misdeeds. With revelations on the misuse of FISA warrants and the exculpatory evidence that was overlooked, this episode sheds light on a complex web of political and legal challenges. Tune in for a thought-provoking discussion that seeks to untangle the issues of justice in the current political landscape.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hour two Sean Hannity Show, toll free on numbers eight
hundred and nine to four one Sean, if you want
to be a part of the program. By the way,
we are in the swamp. We're in DC. Secretary of
State Marco Rubio tonight, the Attorney General Pam Bondi tonight,
Ted Cruz, Lindsey Graham together. That ought to be entertaining,
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but a lot happening here as we speak. So we
have an update on the Komi situation. And you know,
I get asked this all the time. Hannity has spent
years you unpeeled every layer of the onion. You exposed,
you know, the double standard in our justice system, and
how deep state actors put cinderblocks on the scales of
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an election, and how faiza warrants were used, and they
were all the basis of those warrants were a dirty
Russian disinformation dossier bought and paid for by Hillary Clinton.
And then you know we've talked about cash PTTEL from
the year twenty fifteen to the year twenty twenty four,
the election. You know all that has happened. Is this
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a grand conspiracy? Because a lot of you get frustrated, Well,
we exposed all of this corruption, and nobody ever gets
held accountable. One of the biggest problems is we have
written into our laws the Statutes of Limitations, and unfortunately
the Statute of Limitations in the subsequent years when Biden
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was president, they were never held accountable. And you know,
we've discovered you know, not only woere we right, as
Jim Jordan always says, we were more right than we
ever knew we were. We were right about Hunter's laptop.
We were right about you know, pre bunking it by
the FBI. We were we were right about you know
the use of and the weaponization of the DOJ and
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law fair. But let's go back to twenty sixteen. One
guy's life was ruined. His name is Carter Page, a
great guy who's actually a real patriot, who traveled the
world and came back and would BRIEFE three letter agencies
about what he learned, putting his life at risk and
doing so. Here's John Durham talking about Carter Page and
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his PISA warrant.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Several of the relevant PISA applications at issue in the
Crossfire investigation omitted references to what was clearly relevant and
highly exculpatory information that should have been disclosed to the
PISA cord. Multiple FBI personnel who signed or assisted in
preparing renewal applications for that same PISA Warren acknowledged that
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they did not believe that the target, mister Page, was
a threat to national security, much less a knowing agent
of a foreign power, which is what the law requires.
It appears from our investigation that the FBI leadership dismissed
those concerns.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Now we heard about James call Me and the fact
that James call Me's you know, the charges were dropped
against him. There's news out today that he is likely
to be re indicted, maybe as early as this week.
What John Dourham is saying there is that Carter Page
the PAISA warrant omitted exculpatory evidence. James Call Me himself
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signed three of the four PISA warrants, yet they had
gotten rid of you know, Christopher Steele, who put together
the Dirty Russian dossier by December of twenty sixteen, so
he signed two of the three, knowing damn well that
it should never have been relied on, and by lawd
an obligation to go back to the court and tell
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them the information presented to them to secure that warrant
was false and did not include exculpatory evidence. And Dorm
further went on to say this was there was not
a legitimate basis to open Crossfire Hurricane as a full investigation. Anyway,
Carter Page joins us, Now, I imagine you know when people
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say to me, why weren't they held accountable? I know
why they weren't held accountable. Democrats protected them. But that
doesn't give you your life back, does it.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
No, Sean, And it also doesn't give us our legal
system back. But despite all the great work that Director
Cash Pttel has been doing, Attorney General Pam Bondi, and
you know, so many members of Congress have been pushing
for I mean, these headwinds just continue over and over again.
So really appreciate everything that you've done, as you say,
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to expose this from the very beginning, and the you know,
many many people you know on our side. But it's
just been a huge headwind and it's disappointing about that
preliminary step backwards. But I'm cautiously optimistic that, as you're saying,
maybe there's there's some solutions going forward which which our
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country desperately needs for a lot of reasons.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Well, there's a couple of big developments. One is the
declassified information we got from Tulca Gabbard, which was very
revealing because we had seen your career intel officials ascertain
after the twenty sixth election that there was no Trump
Russia collusion. It never existed. We also now the burn
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bags that were never burned. You know, we even have
handwritten notes that are seen pretty damning on paper of
James Comey himself what he knew when he knew it.
All this new evidence has emerged. You know, a grand
conspiracy is a very big, you know, hill to climb
in all of this. You know, I don't take any
satisfaction in being right and yet just as not being served.
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You know, Ray Donovan famously said in the Reagan years,
where do I go to get my good name back?
After he was smeared for years? In many ways, you
live through.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
That absolutely, Sean, And you know, I think director Patel
has made some very good points in terms of, you know,
specific to those burn bags and some of the potential
steps for it. He's talking about more investigations, future public trials,
and then disclosure to Congress. Unfortunately, you know, those public
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trials have been a bit of a sham, going back
to our initial conversations nearly eight years ago when the
you know, when they were just starting to with then
House Intelligence Committee staffer Cash Betel helping Devin Nunez with
some of the preliminary investigations, and you know, as you're
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correctly noting, it's just keeps getting worse and worse. So,
you know, on the one hand, we're very fortunate you
you know, you wrote a great you did great research
on this. Your your book Lived for Your Die was
you know, several chapters really dug into that in a
way that helped to move the ball forward. But there's
a long way that we need to keep going, and unfortunately,
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the ripple effects in many directions keep having really a
serious impact on our country, and a lot needs to
be done to resolve this.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
The sad thing is is even if Kmy is re
indicted the charges lying to Congress, yeah, it does have
a severe penalty. Yeah, I'm glad something is going to happen,
But on the bigger issues that involved and hurt you
in your life. On those bigger issues, unless there's a
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grand conspiracy investigation. He will never be held accountable for
what he and other deep state actors did. I do
believe that there's an injustice there. And that's when people
ask me, how come why why didn't anything happen. I
can tell you why, because again Democrats protected them. But
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you know, what is the latest with you? Because I
do believe you have civil recourse, don't you.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Well, I've had civil recourse which I initially filed in
November of twenty twenty, you know, in the final months,
and you interviewed for Attorney General Bill Barr a number
of times trying to get to the bottom of this,
and unfortunately, what I've learned is, you know, him and
certain people within the d o J in the president's
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first term, we're really looking to kind of sweep that
under the under the carpet. And so I have been
litigating for over over five years now, and uh, it
got thrown out in the trial court in d C.
You know, standard DC swamp court procedures, and then I
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had a similar problem earlier this year in the d
C circuit. But we're we're just keeping continuing to do
the best that we can. And I have one of
the top legal teams in America, the law firms share
Jaffie and they've just done incredible work, and so that
that to me is the biggest thing. Then they're they're
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working on a filing with the Supreme Court, and hopefully
the Supreme Court has made some important steps forward in
terms of reforming our legal system. And I remain cautiously
optimistic that perhaps there's a possibility there. But I think,
you know, the original collusion between a lot of those
bad actors that you were helpful and exposing throughout so
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many years, and the collusion between them and the you know,
some of the staffers within the president's first term in office.
They're in the forty five administration, that remained a big headwind.
But we're fighting as hard as possible uphill to try
to get that those severe injustices against the President, myself
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and so many others overturned in a proper legal context.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Well, I definitely want to see past Bettel's promise that
he will reveal all that are in the burn bags.
But I do want people to know something about you,
and I got to know you over the years and
become very fond of you. Not only did you travel
abroad took countries like Russia and others, but every time
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you did our government, you did it with our government's blessing.
And at any point what I'm saying is factually wrong,
correct me. And when you would come back from these countries,
you would sit down with people at big three letter
agencies and they would debrief you, and as a patriotic American,
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you would tell them anything that they wanted to know.
And I assume it probably even went a little deeper
than that. You probably did certain things that they asked
you to do. But I don't want you to reveal
anything that you feel uncomfortable revealing.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Yeah, and I think you know there are severe costs
for that, Sean, I think as you're correctly alluding to.
And again I just bear in mind so many of
the similar costs that our president and so many in
his movement have faced, whether it's General Flynn or so
many others, Doctor Johnny Stint who helped me in one
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of my prior cases. It's just been a huge uphill battle.
But again, we keep doing the absolute best we can,
and you know, on many levels, not only in the
judicial context, but you know, trying to I think it
goes well beyond. I think, as we see with the
important negotiations that I'm sure you'll get into with Secretary
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of Rubio in terms of the ongoing Russia deal, the
President's absolutely right that those you know, so many of
those headwinds President put then suffered alongside President Trump and
so many of us with this complete Russia hoax, as
the President has correctly noted time and time again. So
there really is you know, despite any you know, severe
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damage or complete destruction in my life, I always bear
in mind the bigger impact it's had for our country,
and you know, the incredibly important need to reform this
and start heading in a much better direction right now.
And there's a lot of things that we can specifically
do to keep pushing that ball forward. So I remained
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cautiously optimistic and we'll do everything I possibly can.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
How's this impacted your life in terms of how you
live it? I mean I look at people like you, John,
Paul mac Isaac, this computer repair man. I mean, if
you go in the arena, you expect to get hit.
This is not a life you chose for yourself. Your
life has been turned upside down. What do you do now?
Speaker 3 (12:35):
It's interesting you asked that question. Sean could because I started,
you know, similar when we started talking about you know,
seven or eight years ago, I was starting to study
the law, and you know, I was just on one hand,
trying to dig deep to try to help solve these problems,
working with a lot of top attorneys, including some of
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the ones that I just mentioned going back many years.
But I was also studying, and so I did a
law degree in the uk an LM program over there,
kind of trying to dig into the you know, the
Steele dossier and all the abuses where you know, the
president and his administration have had such huge headwinds and
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so many civil rights violations. And then I did a
law degree at at Fordham Law School in New York City,
and Jeff, last month I passed the or I was
notified that I passed the Summer Bar exam for the
Texas Bar. So I'm now an attorney. And even though
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this was not the life I designed, Uh, it's I
want to, you know, with all the huge headwinds that
are Attorney General Bondie and those members of Congress, the
other great attorneys you mentioned, Ted Cruz and Lindsey Graham,
you know, in their leadership in Congress. I'm trying to
do everything possible to help reform our legal system. So
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a big shift of direction. But you know, again, I
think there are some glimmers of hope on the horizon
despite all this extreme destruction to our country in international security.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
So if there's anything we could ever do to help,
please let us know. We hope you'll come back often.
Carter Page. We appreciate the update. We're not giving up.
We're going to stay on the case. Reports today that
that in fact COMI may be reindicted as early as
this week. We're following and monitoring that hour by hour.
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Thanks sir for your time. Always appreciate you being with us.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Thank you so much, Sean for everything.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Alright, twenty five now to the top of the hour.
Eight hundred nine four one. Sean our number if you
want to be a part of the program. We're in Washington, DC.
We're in the swamp. Excited about my interview. I have
Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State. We also have the
Attorney General, tam Bondi. Tonight there's a big cabinet meeting
with President in Trump today. We're going to play a
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lot of that coming up in the last hour of
the program. Uh, it was wild today. I mean they
they went over hardcore everything up and down, which was
a nice reset. It was almost like, Okay, we've done
all of this, and the media just all they want
to do is focus on the negative because that's who
they are, and they can't help themselves. I think one
(15:23):
of the funniest moments is when President Trump said, you know,
if I'm gone a single day, a single day, you
people think, oh my god, he's dying, Oh my god,
he's not available. The actual transcript of it was pretty simple.
It goes like this, he goes. You know, you always
find something new, like is he in good health? Biden
was great, you know, but is Trump in good health?
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Biden?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
They never saw this man. They hit him for four
long years, and when he did show up, he mumbled,
he bumbled, he stumbled. He didn't know whether to exit
stage left or stage right. I don't think he knew
what day of the week it was. And I don't
believe he signed a single one of those pardons except
for zero experience Hunter. So Trump goes, I sit here
and do four news conferences a day. I get asked
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questions from very very intelligent lunatics, you people, which I
thought was hilarious. And if I go one day, I
had one day where I didn't do a news conference.
Oh there must be something wrong with President Trump. You
people he says are crazy. They are, They're Craig Craig crazy.
I think I'm sharper than I was twenty five years ago.
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But who the hell knows? You know, only Trump could
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all right, So the looney left is out there in droves.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
We have been talking about and I'm gonna remind everybody
in Nashville, Tennessee, you have a candidate, a left wing
radical of all radicals running out there that is a lunatic.
It's it would be the Mamdani of Nashville. It would
be the AOC of Nashville. Her background her job community
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organizer inspired by Saul Alinsky's Rule for Rules for Radicals,
also known as a trans organizer and activist. She said
that she hates this that the actual city that she
would be representing, Nashville, it actually runs from Kentucky all
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the way down to Alabama. This district, you know, one
of these, I guess Jerrymander districts. She hates her home city.
She hates country music. Listen to what she said.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
They've been heavily involved with the Nashville mayoral race because
I hate the city. I hate the bachelorettes, I hate
the pedal taverns, I hate.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
Country music, I hate all of the things.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
That make Nashville.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
Fairly it hates city to the rest of the country,
but I hate it.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
She talks about how prayer makes her uncomfortable listen, and.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
I think you know, especially as someone who is more secular,
I have a hard time when religion is at the
core of everything we do in the legislature. And so,
for example, on the House floor we say a prayer
every session. Some committees open up with prayer. We also
stand for the Pledge, and there are also prayer groups
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in the legislature that meet routinely. There are Christian pastors
that have a lot of say and proximity to power
in the legislature and dictate a lot of what the
power players do, and it is uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
She wants to defund the Nashville Police Department completely. She
once said rioting is a way for people to express themselves.
She once tweeted out, good morning, especially to the fifty
four percent of Americans that believe burning down a police
station is justified. This is a lunatic. She's running against
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a veteran, a hero by the name of Matt van EPs,
who was on the program yesterday. Here's what I want
you to know. This seat is critical. It's not just
critical for Nashville, it's critical for the country. If you
are in Nashville, you're listening to WLAC, or if you're
listening to any one of our other great Nashville affiliates.
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Please we cover Tennessee. Please assume that your vote will
be the determining vote in the outcome of this election. Today.
I hope by nine pm the race will already have
been called for Matt Van Epps. Don't let this lunatic
Mamdannie of Nashville get elected anyway. Here to weigh in
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on this and more, Tim Rice, DC Bureau Chief Daily Wire.
Catalina Lafas with us and she is a political commentator,
author of a soon to be released book, Time to Choose,
and currently apparently running for Congress. Welcome both of you
to the program. Thank you both all right. So, Catalina,
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how do you run for a district where you in Nashville, Tennessee,
music city, USA, and you hate country music and you
hate the city. How is that possible? How did somebody
this more to the left of Mamdani. I never thought
that was you do it because.
Speaker 6 (22:02):
You want to be there for yourself, not for the constituents.
Often does not represent anything that that district stands for.
We know what the last community organizer did. Look at
what we got with Obama. You know this woman has
never had a real job. That comment that she hates
everything about Tennessee. You know, she doesn't represent the district.
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And Congress is supposed to be a body of servant leadership,
people who match the district from values, and that's just
not what this woman is. And it's detrimental not only
to the state, but also look at what the Democratic Party.
Look at the type of candidates that they're running. I mean,
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this is ridiculous. But to your point too, Sean, it
comes down to voter turnout. Republicans must come out. They
must vote for Matt Vanups. You know, I had the
honored meeting him not long ago. He's a true servant leader.
He does reflect the values of the district, both from
an economic perspective but also culturally. And he's going to
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work hard for the people of Tennessee seven. And I
hope Republicans get out and vote for him.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Tim Reyce Bureau Chief Daily Wire and all this is
stuff you cover every day, you know, Is this now
the new Democratic Party radicalized even in Nashville, Tennessee?
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Unfortunately, Sean, I think it is. I mean, you know,
Barack Obama and his ill destroyed the leadership class of
the Democratic Party because, like Catalina said, Barack Obama was
all about him. I am the change right. So he
absolutely decimated the Democratic Parties backbench, which meant that once
he was out of office, the Democratic Party ceded leadership
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to just the left more broadly. And the problem with
the left is they don't really believe in anything. Sure,
they have policies, you know, they believe quote unquote in
universal health care or DEEI or defunding the police, but
they don't have values. They don't have higher standards. As
Acton Bane said, she mocks it, She mocked prayer, She
mocks people that have, you know, patriotic feelings, she mocks
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people that love their homes. And so the only way
to ascend on the left, the only way to win election,
the only way to become popular is to become more
radically to the left than the person who came before you.
And this this has been going on for a long time.
It's been going on at least since Obama, just the
White House. So we're really seeing it this year. And
of course, you know, Mamdanie was a good example. The
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fact that he was the mayor of New York City
is going to be the mayor of New York City.
I think blunted the reality a little bit because you know,
it's somewhat less shocking that a radical got elected in
New York, a city full of radicals. But yeah, this
is what's going to happen. There's no there's no The
Democratic Party has lost control. There are no leaders. They're
desperate for a leader. And these are the people that
are coming out, the people who are who are ego
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maniacal enough to get out there, the people who have
these access to grind, who admittedly hate the districts they
want to represent. They're not in it to serve and represent.
They're in it to change and punish and elevate themselves.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Quick break more on the lunatic left as we continue,
were in our Nation's Capital. Don't forget Secretary of State
Marco Rubio, Attorney General Pam Bondi, Senators Lindsey Graham, Ted
Cruz together, and a couple of surprises. Quick break right
back from our Nation's Capital.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Up next, our final roundup and information Overload hour.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
I will continue our final moments with Tim Rice Catalina
Loff eight hundred and nine four one. Shawn is on
number will also play the President's Cabinet meeting from earlier.
Today is last of the year. Let me play for
you both. So Luigi Mangioni, the guy accused of assassinating
from behind the CEO of United Healthcare. I don't know
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what this obsession is. I can't explain it. But apparently
he's got tons and tons of admirers, and he's getting
thousands of letters from female admirers that would like to
date him and marry him. And it's just bizarre to me.
Not exactly a great catch in my eyes, But what
do I know. I think the evidence seems overwhelming and incontrovertible.
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We'll see in the end. I don't think it matters
what he told the prison guard, whether that's admissible or not.
I think the videotape will be pretty damn compelling itself
of him in this particular case. But what's odd and
what's strange is so he's at this court hearing yesterday
and his supporters show up. These lunatics that love Luigi
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show up, including furries. If anyone, by the way, you
can call in and tell me what a furry is
and to find it, and I would really appreciate the Enlightenment,
because I have no earthly idea what it is. Anyway,
here are some of the lunatics that showed up outside
the courtroom.
Speaker 7 (26:48):
Well as somebody who struggles with mental health issues. I think,
you know, having free health care is a priority that
this nation should have. And I've been getting a lot
of hate from people online, calling me mentally ill.
Speaker 8 (27:04):
If this person's rights can be suspended in a time
of climbing fascism, anyone's rights can be suspended.
Speaker 7 (27:09):
He completely dismantled the whole healthcare system by exposing a
corrupt CEO.
Speaker 8 (27:16):
Absolutely believe that he's innocent. I completely believe that he's innocent,
that he's a patsy that's being used in this moment
where capitalism, capitalism is under attacked. They're using this person
and they're victimizing him.
Speaker 7 (27:27):
You know who killed more people, Osama bin laden Us
or Brian Thompson. Probably probably the same number of people
was killed.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
The death penalty is a violation of human rights.
Speaker 7 (27:40):
I don't condone murder at all. I think it's terrible,
but in Luigi's case, I feel like it was necessary.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
So while he died on a don't condone violence.
Speaker 8 (27:52):
There are other people who he calls the dead up
in denying them.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Hell, ca you all right, Tim, I'll ask you first,
Could you explain this phenomenon to me? Of these people
obsessed with this guy accused of assassinating in cold blood
the CEO.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
I really can't. I can't understand it, and I've spent
a lot I'm a healthcare guy, so I've spent a
lot of time trying to understand this because I do
think that you know, the fact that so many people
see him as a hero for as fascinating an insurance executive,
well you know what otherwise would seem a pretty but
not not that you know, any assassination is that? But
it's not. You know, he wasn't a controversial world leader.
Brian Thompson was a he was a suit right, he
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was a corporate exec. So I really do think that
it's just this weird healthcare is one of the weirdest
things that democrats and leftists have sets over, and you
hear it in some of those comments. You know, first
of all, obviously Medicare for all or universal health care
is not worth killing or dying over. Right, Very few
things are worth dying over, even fewer things are worth
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killing over health insurance. Your perferred kind of health insurance
is not it. But the thing that's even crazier to
me is that, you know, they all talk about capitalism
and we need universal health care. It's the capitalistic parts
of America's healthcare systems are the ones that work. Right.
It's the it's the socialist parts. It's Obamacare. The individual
is the Obamacare mandates. It's Medicaid and expanding Medicaid to
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populations that shouldn't have it and allowing fraud. It's just
pushed for state sponsored healthcare.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
No, it cracks me up. The Affordable Care Act is
not so affordable in eight subsidies it was, you know anyway,
last word, Catalina, we'll give it to you.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
Yeah, this is sick. This is the type of cultural
and moral rat that we've seen in our culture. You know,
thirty forty years ago, an assassination in any form was
universally not acceptable, no matter what their ideology was. But
this is where we're at, and it just shows us
that it all starts at home. You know, these no
matter what the ideology is, the fact that these people
(29:51):
are cheering on an assassin, and especially somebody like Brian
Thompson who was senselessly murdered. You know, the the fact
that those in that narrative is now the norm. If
we don't take the narrative back, think about what will
be acceptable thirty forty years from now. And it really
starts at home, it starts in the classrooms. We need
(30:12):
to take back our culture and our morality in this country.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Oh, I appreciate both of you, thanks for being with us.
I can't explain it. I mean, I'd love to marry
Luigi Mangioni. I'd love to bear his children. That is
pretty sick, pretty bizarre. I don't conn murder, but this
one was justified. Why it's bizarre, it's scary. Actually, it's chilling.
Hour two Sean Hannity Show, toll free on numbers eight
hundred and nine to four one Sean, if you want
to be a part of the program. By the way,
we are in the swamp. We're in DC. Secretary of
State Marco Rubio tonight, the Attorney General Pam Bondi tonight,
Ted Cruz, Lindsey Graham together. That ought to be entertaining,
(00:20):
but a lot happening here as we speak. So we
have an update on the Komi situation. And you know,
I get asked this all the time. Hannity has spent
years you unpeeled every layer of the onion. You exposed,
you know, the double standard in our justice system, and
how deep state actors put cinderblocks on the scales of
(00:41):
an election, and how faiza warrants were used, and they
were all the basis of those warrants were a dirty
Russian disinformation dossier bought and paid for by Hillary Clinton.
And then you know we've talked about cash PTTEL from
the year twenty fifteen to the year twenty twenty four,
the election. You know all that has happened. Is this
(01:04):
a grand conspiracy? Because a lot of you get frustrated, Well,
we exposed all of this corruption, and nobody ever gets
held accountable. One of the biggest problems is we have
written into our laws the Statutes of Limitations, and unfortunately
the Statute of Limitations in the subsequent years when Biden
(01:24):
was president, they were never held accountable. And you know,
we've discovered you know, not only woere we right, as
Jim Jordan always says, we were more right than we
ever knew we were. We were right about Hunter's laptop.
We were right about you know, pre bunking it by
the FBI. We were we were right about you know
the use of and the weaponization of the DOJ and
(01:46):
law fair. But let's go back to twenty sixteen. One
guy's life was ruined. His name is Carter Page, a
great guy who's actually a real patriot, who traveled the
world and came back and would BRIEFE three letter agencies
about what he learned, putting his life at risk and
doing so. Here's John Durham talking about Carter Page and
(02:08):
his PISA warrant.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Several of the relevant PISA applications at issue in the
Crossfire investigation omitted references to what was clearly relevant and
highly exculpatory information that should have been disclosed to the
PISA cord. Multiple FBI personnel who signed or assisted in
preparing renewal applications for that same PISA Warren acknowledged that
(02:33):
they did not believe that the target, mister Page, was
a threat to national security, much less a knowing agent
of a foreign power, which is what the law requires.
It appears from our investigation that the FBI leadership dismissed
those concerns.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Now we heard about James call Me and the fact
that James call Me's you know, the charges were dropped
against him. There's news out today that he is likely
to be re indicted, maybe as early as this week.
What John Dourham is saying there is that Carter Page
the PAISA warrant omitted exculpatory evidence. James Call Me himself
(03:11):
signed three of the four PISA warrants, yet they had
gotten rid of you know, Christopher Steele, who put together
the Dirty Russian dossier by December of twenty sixteen, so
he signed two of the three, knowing damn well that
it should never have been relied on, and by lawd
an obligation to go back to the court and tell
(03:32):
them the information presented to them to secure that warrant
was false and did not include exculpatory evidence. And Dorm
further went on to say this was there was not
a legitimate basis to open Crossfire Hurricane as a full investigation. Anyway,
Carter Page joins us, Now, I imagine you know when people
(03:54):
say to me, why weren't they held accountable? I know
why they weren't held accountable. Democrats protected them. But that
doesn't give you your life back, does it.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
No, Sean, And it also doesn't give us our legal
system back. But despite all the great work that Director
Cash Pttel has been doing, Attorney General Pam Bondi, and
you know, so many members of Congress have been pushing
for I mean, these headwinds just continue over and over again.
So really appreciate everything that you've done, as you say,
(04:24):
to expose this from the very beginning, and the you know,
many many people you know on our side. But it's
just been a huge headwind and it's disappointing about that
preliminary step backwards. But I'm cautiously optimistic that, as you're saying,
maybe there's there's some solutions going forward which which our
(04:44):
country desperately needs for a lot of reasons.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Well, there's a couple of big developments. One is the
declassified information we got from Tulca Gabbard, which was very
revealing because we had seen your career intel officials ascertain
after the twenty sixth election that there was no Trump
Russia collusion. It never existed. We also now the burn
(05:07):
bags that were never burned. You know, we even have
handwritten notes that are seen pretty damning on paper of
James Comey himself what he knew when he knew it.
All this new evidence has emerged. You know, a grand
conspiracy is a very big, you know, hill to climb
in all of this. You know, I don't take any
satisfaction in being right and yet just as not being served.
(05:31):
You know, Ray Donovan famously said in the Reagan years,
where do I go to get my good name back?
After he was smeared for years? In many ways, you
live through.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
That absolutely, Sean, And you know, I think director Patel
has made some very good points in terms of, you know,
specific to those burn bags and some of the potential
steps for it. He's talking about more investigations, future public trials,
and then disclosure to Congress. Unfortunately, you know, those public
(06:02):
trials have been a bit of a sham, going back
to our initial conversations nearly eight years ago when the
you know, when they were just starting to with then
House Intelligence Committee staffer Cash Betel helping Devin Nunez with
some of the preliminary investigations, and you know, as you're
(06:23):
correctly noting, it's just keeps getting worse and worse. So,
you know, on the one hand, we're very fortunate you
you know, you wrote a great you did great research
on this. Your your book Lived for Your Die was
you know, several chapters really dug into that in a
way that helped to move the ball forward. But there's
a long way that we need to keep going, and unfortunately,
(06:46):
the ripple effects in many directions keep having really a
serious impact on our country, and a lot needs to
be done to resolve this.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
The sad thing is is even if Kmy is re
indicted the charges lying to Congress, yeah, it does have
a severe penalty. Yeah, I'm glad something is going to happen,
But on the bigger issues that involved and hurt you
in your life. On those bigger issues, unless there's a
(07:20):
grand conspiracy investigation. He will never be held accountable for
what he and other deep state actors did. I do
believe that there's an injustice there. And that's when people
ask me, how come why why didn't anything happen. I
can tell you why, because again Democrats protected them. But
(07:42):
you know, what is the latest with you? Because I
do believe you have civil recourse, don't you.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Well, I've had civil recourse which I initially filed in
November of twenty twenty, you know, in the final months,
and you interviewed for Attorney General Bill Barr a number
of times trying to get to the bottom of this,
and unfortunately, what I've learned is, you know, him and
certain people within the d o J in the president's
(08:12):
first term, we're really looking to kind of sweep that
under the under the carpet. And so I have been
litigating for over over five years now, and uh, it
got thrown out in the trial court in d C.
You know, standard DC swamp court procedures, and then I
(08:32):
had a similar problem earlier this year in the d
C circuit. But we're we're just keeping continuing to do
the best that we can. And I have one of
the top legal teams in America, the law firms share
Jaffie and they've just done incredible work, and so that
that to me is the biggest thing. Then they're they're
(08:53):
working on a filing with the Supreme Court, and hopefully
the Supreme Court has made some important steps forward in
terms of reforming our legal system. And I remain cautiously
optimistic that perhaps there's a possibility there. But I think,
you know, the original collusion between a lot of those
bad actors that you were helpful and exposing throughout so
(09:15):
many years, and the collusion between them and the you know,
some of the staffers within the president's first term in office.
They're in the forty five administration, that remained a big headwind.
But we're fighting as hard as possible uphill to try
to get that those severe injustices against the President, myself
(09:37):
and so many others overturned in a proper legal context.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Well, I definitely want to see past Bettel's promise that
he will reveal all that are in the burn bags.
But I do want people to know something about you,
and I got to know you over the years and
become very fond of you. Not only did you travel
abroad took countries like Russia and others, but every time
(10:04):
you did our government, you did it with our government's blessing.
And at any point what I'm saying is factually wrong,
correct me. And when you would come back from these countries,
you would sit down with people at big three letter
agencies and they would debrief you, and as a patriotic American,
(10:24):
you would tell them anything that they wanted to know.
And I assume it probably even went a little deeper
than that. You probably did certain things that they asked
you to do. But I don't want you to reveal
anything that you feel uncomfortable revealing.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Yeah, and I think you know there are severe costs
for that, Sean, I think as you're correctly alluding to.
And again I just bear in mind so many of
the similar costs that our president and so many in
his movement have faced, whether it's General Flynn or so
many others, Doctor Johnny Stint who helped me in one
(10:59):
of my prior cases. It's just been a huge uphill battle.
But again, we keep doing the absolute best we can,
and you know, on many levels, not only in the
judicial context, but you know, trying to I think it
goes well beyond. I think, as we see with the
important negotiations that I'm sure you'll get into with Secretary
(11:22):
of Rubio in terms of the ongoing Russia deal, the
President's absolutely right that those you know, so many of
those headwinds President put then suffered alongside President Trump and
so many of us with this complete Russia hoax, as
the President has correctly noted time and time again. So
there really is you know, despite any you know, severe
(11:45):
damage or complete destruction in my life, I always bear
in mind the bigger impact it's had for our country,
and you know, the incredibly important need to reform this
and start heading in a much better direction right now.
And there's a lot of things that we can specifically
do to keep pushing that ball forward. So I remained
(12:06):
cautiously optimistic and we'll do everything I possibly can.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
How's this impacted your life in terms of how you
live it? I mean I look at people like you, John,
Paul mac Isaac, this computer repair man. I mean, if
you go in the arena, you expect to get hit.
This is not a life you chose for yourself. Your
life has been turned upside down. What do you do now?
Speaker 3 (12:35):
It's interesting you asked that question. Sean could because I started,
you know, similar when we started talking about you know,
seven or eight years ago, I was starting to study
the law, and you know, I was just on one hand,
trying to dig deep to try to help solve these problems,
working with a lot of top attorneys, including some of
(12:57):
the ones that I just mentioned going back many years.
But I was also studying, and so I did a
law degree in the uk an LM program over there,
kind of trying to dig into the you know, the
Steele dossier and all the abuses where you know, the
president and his administration have had such huge headwinds and
(13:19):
so many civil rights violations. And then I did a
law degree at at Fordham Law School in New York City,
and Jeff, last month I passed the or I was
notified that I passed the Summer Bar exam for the
Texas Bar. So I'm now an attorney. And even though
(13:40):
this was not the life I designed, Uh, it's I
want to, you know, with all the huge headwinds that
are Attorney General Bondie and those members of Congress, the
other great attorneys you mentioned, Ted Cruz and Lindsey Graham,
you know, in their leadership in Congress. I'm trying to
do everything possible to help reform our legal system. So
(14:03):
a big shift of direction. But you know, again, I
think there are some glimmers of hope on the horizon
despite all this extreme destruction to our country in international security.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
So if there's anything we could ever do to help,
please let us know. We hope you'll come back often.
Carter Page. We appreciate the update. We're not giving up.
We're going to stay on the case. Reports today that
that in fact COMI may be reindicted as early as
this week. We're following and monitoring that hour by hour.
(14:35):
Thanks sir for your time. Always appreciate you being with us.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Thank you so much, Sean for everything.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Alright, twenty five now to the top of the hour.
Eight hundred nine four one. Sean our number if you
want to be a part of the program. We're in Washington, DC.
We're in the swamp. Excited about my interview. I have
Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State. We also have the
Attorney General, tam Bondi. Tonight there's a big cabinet meeting
with President in Trump today. We're going to play a
(15:02):
lot of that coming up in the last hour of
the program. Uh, it was wild today. I mean they
they went over hardcore everything up and down, which was
a nice reset. It was almost like, Okay, we've done
all of this, and the media just all they want
to do is focus on the negative because that's who
they are, and they can't help themselves. I think one
(15:23):
of the funniest moments is when President Trump said, you know,
if I'm gone a single day, a single day, you
people think, oh my god, he's dying, Oh my god,
he's not available. The actual transcript of it was pretty simple.
It goes like this, he goes. You know, you always
find something new, like is he in good health? Biden
was great, you know, but is Trump in good health?
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Biden?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
They never saw this man. They hit him for four
long years, and when he did show up, he mumbled,
he bumbled, he stumbled. He didn't know whether to exit
stage left or stage right. I don't think he knew
what day of the week it was. And I don't
believe he signed a single one of those pardons except
for zero experience Hunter. So Trump goes, I sit here
and do four news conferences a day. I get asked
(16:10):
questions from very very intelligent lunatics, you people, which I
thought was hilarious. And if I go one day, I
had one day where I didn't do a news conference.
Oh there must be something wrong with President Trump. You
people he says are crazy. They are, They're Craig Craig crazy.
I think I'm sharper than I was twenty five years ago.
(16:31):
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all right, So the looney left is out there in droves.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
We have been talking about and I'm gonna remind everybody
in Nashville, Tennessee, you have a candidate, a left wing
radical of all radicals running out there that is a lunatic.
It's it would be the Mamdani of Nashville. It would
be the AOC of Nashville. Her background her job community
(18:45):
organizer inspired by Saul Alinsky's Rule for Rules for Radicals,
also known as a trans organizer and activist. She said
that she hates this that the actual city that she
would be representing, Nashville, it actually runs from Kentucky all
(19:06):
the way down to Alabama. This district, you know, one
of these, I guess Jerrymander districts. She hates her home city.
She hates country music. Listen to what she said.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
They've been heavily involved with the Nashville mayoral race because
I hate the city. I hate the bachelorettes, I hate
the pedal taverns, I hate.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
Country music, I hate all of the things.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
That make Nashville.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
Fairly it hates city to the rest of the country,
but I hate it.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
She talks about how prayer makes her uncomfortable listen, and.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
I think you know, especially as someone who is more secular,
I have a hard time when religion is at the
core of everything we do in the legislature. And so,
for example, on the House floor we say a prayer
every session. Some committees open up with prayer. We also
stand for the Pledge, and there are also prayer groups
(20:02):
in the legislature that meet routinely. There are Christian pastors
that have a lot of say and proximity to power
in the legislature and dictate a lot of what the
power players do, and it is uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
She wants to defund the Nashville Police Department completely. She
once said rioting is a way for people to express themselves.
She once tweeted out, good morning, especially to the fifty
four percent of Americans that believe burning down a police
station is justified. This is a lunatic. She's running against
(20:38):
a veteran, a hero by the name of Matt van EPs,
who was on the program yesterday. Here's what I want
you to know. This seat is critical. It's not just
critical for Nashville, it's critical for the country. If you
are in Nashville, you're listening to WLAC, or if you're
listening to any one of our other great Nashville affiliates.
(20:59):
Please we cover Tennessee. Please assume that your vote will
be the determining vote in the outcome of this election. Today.
I hope by nine pm the race will already have
been called for Matt Van Epps. Don't let this lunatic
Mamdannie of Nashville get elected anyway. Here to weigh in
(21:20):
on this and more, Tim Rice, DC Bureau Chief Daily Wire.
Catalina Lafas with us and she is a political commentator,
author of a soon to be released book, Time to Choose,
and currently apparently running for Congress. Welcome both of you
to the program. Thank you both all right. So, Catalina,
(21:44):
how do you run for a district where you in Nashville, Tennessee,
music city, USA, and you hate country music and you
hate the city. How is that possible? How did somebody
this more to the left of Mamdani. I never thought
that was you do it because.
Speaker 6 (22:02):
You want to be there for yourself, not for the constituents.
Often does not represent anything that that district stands for.
We know what the last community organizer did. Look at
what we got with Obama. You know this woman has
never had a real job. That comment that she hates
everything about Tennessee. You know, she doesn't represent the district.
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And Congress is supposed to be a body of servant leadership,
people who match the district from values, and that's just
not what this woman is. And it's detrimental not only
to the state, but also look at what the Democratic Party.
Look at the type of candidates that they're running. I mean,
(22:44):
this is ridiculous. But to your point too, Sean, it
comes down to voter turnout. Republicans must come out. They
must vote for Matt Vanups. You know, I had the
honored meeting him not long ago. He's a true servant leader.
He does reflect the values of the district, both from
an economic perspective but also culturally. And he's going to
(23:05):
work hard for the people of Tennessee seven. And I
hope Republicans get out and vote for him.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Tim Reyce Bureau Chief Daily Wire and all this is
stuff you cover every day, you know, Is this now
the new Democratic Party radicalized even in Nashville, Tennessee?
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Unfortunately, Sean, I think it is. I mean, you know,
Barack Obama and his ill destroyed the leadership class of
the Democratic Party because, like Catalina said, Barack Obama was
all about him. I am the change right. So he
absolutely decimated the Democratic Parties backbench, which meant that once
he was out of office, the Democratic Party ceded leadership
(23:42):
to just the left more broadly. And the problem with
the left is they don't really believe in anything. Sure,
they have policies, you know, they believe quote unquote in
universal health care or DEEI or defunding the police, but
they don't have values. They don't have higher standards. As
Acton Bane said, she mocks it, She mocked prayer, She
mocks people that have, you know, patriotic feelings, she mocks
(24:03):
people that love their homes. And so the only way
to ascend on the left, the only way to win election,
the only way to become popular is to become more
radically to the left than the person who came before you.
And this this has been going on for a long time.
It's been going on at least since Obama, just the
White House. So we're really seeing it this year. And
of course, you know, Mamdanie was a good example. The
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fact that he was the mayor of New York City
is going to be the mayor of New York City.
I think blunted the reality a little bit because you know,
it's somewhat less shocking that a radical got elected in
New York, a city full of radicals. But yeah, this
is what's going to happen. There's no there's no The
Democratic Party has lost control. There are no leaders. They're
desperate for a leader. And these are the people that
are coming out, the people who are who are ego
(24:44):
maniacal enough to get out there, the people who have
these access to grind, who admittedly hate the districts they
want to represent. They're not in it to serve and represent.
They're in it to change and punish and elevate themselves.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Quick break more on the lunatic left as we continue,
were in our Nation's Capital. Don't forget Secretary of State
Marco Rubio, Attorney General Pam Bondi, Senators Lindsey Graham, Ted
Cruz together, and a couple of surprises. Quick break right
back from our Nation's Capital.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Up next, our final roundup and information Overload hour.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
I will continue our final moments with Tim Rice Catalina
Loff eight hundred and nine four one. Shawn is on
number will also play the President's Cabinet meeting from earlier.
Today is last of the year. Let me play for
you both. So Luigi Mangioni, the guy accused of assassinating
from behind the CEO of United Healthcare. I don't know
(25:48):
what this obsession is. I can't explain it. But apparently
he's got tons and tons of admirers, and he's getting
thousands of letters from female admirers that would like to
date him and marry him. And it's just bizarre to me.
Not exactly a great catch in my eyes, But what
do I know. I think the evidence seems overwhelming and incontrovertible.
(26:13):
We'll see in the end. I don't think it matters
what he told the prison guard, whether that's admissible or not.
I think the videotape will be pretty damn compelling itself
of him in this particular case. But what's odd and
what's strange is so he's at this court hearing yesterday
and his supporters show up. These lunatics that love Luigi
(26:36):
show up, including furries. If anyone, by the way, you
can call in and tell me what a furry is
and to find it, and I would really appreciate the Enlightenment,
because I have no earthly idea what it is. Anyway,
here are some of the lunatics that showed up outside
the courtroom.
Speaker 7 (26:48):
Well as somebody who struggles with mental health issues. I think,
you know, having free health care is a priority that
this nation should have. And I've been getting a lot
of hate from people online, calling me mentally ill.
Speaker 8 (27:04):
If this person's rights can be suspended in a time
of climbing fascism, anyone's rights can be suspended.
Speaker 7 (27:09):
He completely dismantled the whole healthcare system by exposing a
corrupt CEO.
Speaker 8 (27:16):
Absolutely believe that he's innocent. I completely believe that he's innocent,
that he's a patsy that's being used in this moment
where capitalism, capitalism is under attacked. They're using this person
and they're victimizing him.
Speaker 7 (27:27):
You know who killed more people, Osama bin laden Us
or Brian Thompson. Probably probably the same number of people
was killed.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
The death penalty is a violation of human rights.
Speaker 7 (27:40):
I don't condone murder at all. I think it's terrible,
but in Luigi's case, I feel like it was necessary.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
So while he died on a don't condone violence.
Speaker 8 (27:52):
There are other people who he calls the dead up
in denying them.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Hell, ca you all right, Tim, I'll ask you first,
Could you explain this phenomenon to me? Of these people
obsessed with this guy accused of assassinating in cold blood
the CEO.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
I really can't. I can't understand it, and I've spent
a lot I'm a healthcare guy, so I've spent a
lot of time trying to understand this because I do
think that you know, the fact that so many people
see him as a hero for as fascinating an insurance executive,
well you know what otherwise would seem a pretty but
not not that you know, any assassination is that? But
it's not. You know, he wasn't a controversial world leader.
Brian Thompson was a he was a suit right, he
(28:32):
was a corporate exec. So I really do think that
it's just this weird healthcare is one of the weirdest
things that democrats and leftists have sets over, and you
hear it in some of those comments. You know, first
of all, obviously Medicare for all or universal health care
is not worth killing or dying over. Right, Very few
things are worth dying over, even fewer things are worth
(28:53):
killing over health insurance. Your perferred kind of health insurance
is not it. But the thing that's even crazier to
me is that, you know, they all talk about capitalism
and we need universal health care. It's the capitalistic parts
of America's healthcare systems are the ones that work. Right.
It's the it's the socialist parts. It's Obamacare. The individual
is the Obamacare mandates. It's Medicaid and expanding Medicaid to
(29:15):
populations that shouldn't have it and allowing fraud. It's just
pushed for state sponsored healthcare.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
No, it cracks me up. The Affordable Care Act is
not so affordable in eight subsidies it was, you know anyway,
last word, Catalina, we'll give it to you.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
Yeah, this is sick. This is the type of cultural
and moral rat that we've seen in our culture. You know,
thirty forty years ago, an assassination in any form was
universally not acceptable, no matter what their ideology was. But
this is where we're at, and it just shows us
that it all starts at home. You know, these no
matter what the ideology is, the fact that these people
(29:51):
are cheering on an assassin, and especially somebody like Brian
Thompson who was senselessly murdered. You know, the the fact
that those in that narrative is now the norm. If
we don't take the narrative back, think about what will
be acceptable thirty forty years from now. And it really
starts at home, it starts in the classrooms. We need
(30:12):
to take back our culture and our morality in this country.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Oh, I appreciate both of you, thanks for being with us.
I can't explain it. I mean, I'd love to marry
Luigi Mangioni. I'd love to bear his children. That is
pretty sick, pretty bizarre. I don't conn murder, but this
one was justified. Why it's bizarre, it's scary. Actually, it's chilling.
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