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December 3, 2025 • 28 mins

In this gripping episode, Sean Hannity welcomes renowned author and commentator Bill O'Reilly to discuss his latest bestselling book, "Confronting Evil: Assessing the Worst of the Worst." O'Reilly shares his perspective on the persistence of evil in society, illustrated by real-life incidents that highlight the consequences of political decisions. The duo dives into the implications of the Trump doctrine on national security and the political landscape, touching on recent controversies within New York's criminal justice system and the impact on innocent citizens. Join them for a thought-provoking conversation that challenges listeners to reflect on the moral choices facing America today.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, Leonard's hindered simple man.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
That can only mean one thing on this radio program,
and that is all things self proclaimed simple man. That
means all things Bill O'Reilly, all things Bill O'Reilly. Of
course you can find it at Bill O'Reilly dot com.
And by the way, his latest best selling book, Confronting Evil,
Assessing the Worst of the Worst, number one New York

(00:25):
Times bestseller.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Mister O'Reilly, sir, how.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Are you I need advice? Keannity? I have to market
Confronting Evil for Christmas, and I can't say put evil
under the tree.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
That's actually quite a quandary, a dilemma if you will,
that you're facing fucker. You know, No, it's a look.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
I read that book cover to cover, and when I
had you on about the book, we went into I
think we did the whole hour, and we went into
great detail and specifice city it. Nois the living hell
out of me that people do not understand that evil exists.
Years ago, I wrote a book very different from what
you wrote, deliver Us from Evil and Defeating Terrorism, Despotism

(01:14):
and liberalism, and everyone got all worked up because they said, well,
you're talking about calling liberals evil. No, I'm saying, if
you don't win the political battle and elect people with
moral clarity, then that enables the rise of evil. Let
me give you an example and then I'll hand it
off to you. It's to me if you look at
the Trump doctrine. And I was talking about this with

(01:36):
Marco Rubio last night.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
I'm sure you are watching, and I got into the
Trump doctrine because I define it this way, no forever wars.
I agree with him.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
We can't do what we did in Iraq ever again
and have our national treasure going door to door, stepping
over IEDs and not having up armored, hungry vehicles, modern
weaponry in techno, changing all that, and I believe future
wars will be fought from Americ conditioned offices. Okay, so,
but that doesn't mean isolationism. And there's a certain faction

(02:12):
of the MAGA movement that misinterprets the Trump doctrine. Example,
he took out Solamani, the world's worst terrorist. Example, he
took out Bagdaddy and his associates, some of the world's
worst terrorists. Evil does exist, and there are some people
that maybe forgot nine to eleven, don't understand how bad

(02:33):
October seventh was don't understand that Israel has has for
decades been you know, taking incoming missiles.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
I don't know. You do understand it though that part
I do know.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Well, you can localize it, and I'm going to give
you a very vivid, short example here and then we
can get into the larger discussion of why the Democratic
Party and the left is opposing President Trump on trying
to mitigate evil. There is a reason they're doing it.

(03:07):
So Bryan Park in New York is a place around
forty second Street where they have very nice Christmas decorations
and you can go there and buy trinkets. So there
is a six year old boy on Saturday with his
grandfather and they're just taken into Christmas sits and a
guy comes up to the six year old boy and

(03:29):
punches the kid in the face. This man had been
arrested twelve times the last time the case actually went
to trial, which is stunning in Manhattan because Alvin Bragg,
recently re elected, doesn't prosecute assaults very often. In the
court proceeding, the judge threw the case out because the man,

(03:52):
forty six years old, was incapable of standing trial. According
to the judge he's insane. Instead of keeping that man
in confinement in some kind of mental health facility, State
of New York let him out on the street despite

(04:13):
that happening. That is an evil act. And now this
little boy six years old will have to live with
that assault the rest of his life. And you cannot
get the attention of elected officials in New York City
and state to deal with this problem. That is evil,

(04:35):
And the voters turn away from that evil, they continue
to elect people like this and I can't make it
any more start than that.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Well the cover of the New York Post and you
know him in the nation's capital today. And I've been
spending a lot of time communicating with twenty four year
old Andrew Wolfe's mother, Bill. You would love her. She's
a sweetheart. She's a very devout religious woman. She's asking
me to ask this audience and I've asked many times

(05:10):
for everyone to pray for her son, who's been clinging
to life. They did get some good news yesterday, thank God.
And we don't know, you know, whether or not the
extent of his injuries are going to really impede his
future life. I'm hoping he makes it first of all,
and then Sarah Beckstrom twenty years old. She's dead National

(05:30):
Guards person killed while protecting the nation's capital, where because
of the Guard, homicides are down seventy percent. And the
front cover of I think the best paper in New York,
the New York Post yesterday, Bill had a headline hand
him Over, and it goes through the specifics of nearly

(05:52):
seven thousand known illegal criminals that they released, including pedophiles,
violent criminals, rap this you name it, Bill, and that
Tiss James and company refuse to hand over to Ice
and allow these people, including a pedophile time served probation,

(06:14):
back out on the streets. Now I've been telling you
forever get the hell out of there, and you don't
listen to me. Maybe you don't think I'm very smart,
but I'm very happy in my free state of Florida.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
Well, I'm in Nasau County, so it's a whole different,
as you know, situation here actually putting up a barrier
between Queens and Nassau County to stop the intrusion. But
you're making the same point I'm making that if voters
in America, no matter where you live, continue to put

(06:46):
people into office who are going to allow evil to prosper,
not just exist, but to prosper. They give evil opportunities
to help to hurt I should say, individuals, and yet
the people continue to cast ballots for them. There's no

(07:10):
excuse for that in my opinion. I'm a judgmental guy,
and I'm in DC too today and i'm you know,
lobbying Kate's law trying to get that pass, and I
hope you have.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
By the way, I fully support your effort on that.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yeah, early of next year, it should be put up
on the floor of the House and the Senate and
it'll get it'll get passed. But you know, you cannot
allow foreign nationals to defy deportation and commit crimes, and
they need to port them and they come back, You've
got to isolate them.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Can I disagree with you on your assessment?

Speaker 2 (07:48):
In New York and I am a huge fan of
Bruce Blakeman, and Bruce Blakeman runs Nasviall County. I'm a
fan of the elected officials in Suffolk County. West Chester
to upstate New York are very different than New York City.
But there's you know, you have such a densely populated
area of radical leftists that they're the ones that elected Mamdani.

(08:09):
Here's my premise, and we talked about a little bit
in the last hour. Kathy Hokeel is governor and name only.
Kathy Hokeel gave her endorsement to Mamdanni, expecting Mamdanni would
endorse her reelection. He didn't do it. Kathy Hokeel is
now scared to death of Zoron Kami Marxist Mumdani, and

(08:36):
Kathy Hokeel is going to do everything Mumdanni says. And
she even said yesterday she doesn't rule out raising business taxes.
That would be the whole state. Is nothing that Bruce
Blakeman can do in Nassau County if she does that,
and she said there's a lot of common ground with
mam Donni and universal childcare, all the money for free buses.

(08:58):
Everybody's going to get hurt in New York because he
will be the real governor. She will be governor name only,
because that's her only path to staying in power.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Tell me where I'm wrong.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
She's gonna lose next November to who bill the fact
I'm gonna beat.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Her, I'll take the bet. I listen, there's nothing. There
would be nothing in the.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
World that makes me happier than to pay money to
any charity of your choice. Okay, okay, it's not gonna
And let me tell you one thing. That Kathy Oakle
is also afraid of Mom Donnie. I could see him
challenging her for the nomination. How far fetched does that?

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Bill not?

Speaker 3 (09:42):
Next year you are a primary by the lieutenant governor,
who is men Donnie's soulmate. And I'm it's possible that
lieutenant governor could beat her. But it doesn't matter because
the people of New York, I believe, and I could
be wrong, of course. I've had enough and you've seen it.
You can see most of the counties now turning red

(10:05):
in New York and they've had it. And it's gonna
get worse in the next eleven months. Man dom is
gonna take over in a month, all right. And if
I am correct and you are correct, you're gonna see
Mayam in the streets. That is going to be so
horrific that no one's going to be able to turn
away from it. And that's what I believe is going

(10:27):
to happen.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
All right, quick break more with all things simple, man,
Bill O'Reilly all things O'Reilly, Bill O'Reilly dot com. As
we continue from our nation's capital. It's the Sean Hannity Show.
All right, we continue now with all Things simple Man.
That means all things Bill O'Reilly, all things O'Reilly at
Bill O'Reilly dot com. You know, there's certain things in
life that just infuriate me. And when we lose good people,

(10:50):
innocent people. For example, I mentioned these two National Guards
people that were shot, and I hear the agony in
this mother's voice when I talk to her and when
I'm texting with her. I mean, we both have children, Bill,
and I know you refer to yours affectionately as urchins,
but and also you love your children. And if this

(11:12):
happened to one of your kids, if this happened to
one of my kids, I don't know if I'd ever recover.
I don't know how these families that lose children get
through it. And I've talked to many of them, as
you have in the course of your career.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
Well, our responsibility as Americans, and if you're a Christian,
then that even makes it more intense. Our responsibility is
to look out for other people. It's as simple as that,
and the communal nature of a democracy is that we
don't allow other people to get hurt if we can

(11:46):
stop it. So you couldn't stop this National Guard thing
because the guy was a terrorist is a terrorist and
he's gonna I believe that. I think they're going to
execute him. But there's nobody get stop that. That's individual evil.
You can't stop putin Why I put him on the
cover confronting evil. They'll negotiate a fair deal in Ukraine

(12:10):
and potlego blank you. I like the war. I want
to continue the war, and unless Russian people overthrow him,
he's going to continue the war. But what you can
do is stop the madness by electing people, voting for people.
And they've done that in Florida. Absolutely. I know Florida

(12:33):
as well as anybody. You work down there twice in
my life.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Oh, you know it well because every time you come down,
I have to take you to either breakfast or lunch,
and I pay for it.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Yeah, and I know that most expensive places.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
And by the way you do it was pretty funny
the last time Bill and I go into this, by
the way, it's like the fancy diner. I go to
the city diner, in West Palm occasionally love the place,
and you know it's it's more working folks like us.
And anyway, you take me to this upscale diner and

(13:07):
like you know, they're putting like all these green parsley
little things that you have to push off to the
side before you can get to your eggs and your
your you know, sausage and bacon. Yeah, you're and you're
eating oatmeal. Who the hell eats oatmeal?

Speaker 3 (13:22):
That's why I'm so healthy. Hey, you know you're younger
than I am. But when you get to be my age,
you like me. Yeah, you look like me at my age.
If you get there, if I get there, thanks a lot, Bill, Well,
you never know.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
Listen, we're all on God's time.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Let's be real, that's right. But you know, dam so
the Irish show bills working all right.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
All things simple, man, Bill O'Reilly Billoreilly dot com. Thank you, sir,
okay eight hundred nine one Sean. If you want to
be a part of the program, listen, think about December,
all the hust bustle errands travel this next segment. I
am really looking forward to it, and I'm going to
tell you why so over the years, if I start
talking about all the jobs I did in my life

(14:10):
to my kids.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
They roll their ice.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
I know, Dad, you were a paper boy, you were
a dishwasher, you were a cook, you were a bus boy.
You're a waiter. You're a bartender. You were a house painter.
You hung wallpaper, you laid tile, you did roofing. You
fell off a roof three stories, hit the ground, frozen
ground on Rohde Island, and woke up a conservative, broke
and dislocated my arm. All that, and it infuriates me

(14:35):
that there have been people in the fake news media
that have challenged the veracity.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Of my statements. I don't lie. That's not what I do.
It's not who I am.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
We had this situation where I told the story that
after I broke my arm and fell off a roof
and dislocated my elbow and broke the radio head, I
was living.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Paycheck to paycheck.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
I didn't have any money, and a friend of mine
got me a job at Blount Marine in Warren, Rhode Island,
and we told you that whole story. And sure enough, Linda,
because people were questioning whether I was telling the truth,
and she called over there. They said, huh, Sean Hannity
Fox News worked here. They didn't remember. I didn't work

(15:20):
there very long, but I worked there for a while,
and lo and behold, those records existed. Okay, now I'm
going to prove to you critics out there that yeah,
I was twelve years old. Yeah I did wash dishes.
Yeah it was one Thanksgiving. The chef Hans quit and
the guy I'm about to introduce you to threw an

(15:41):
apron at me and said you're in. And I was thirty,
I was about to be I was thirteen years old,
about to be fourteen. And the restaurant was the Norwood Inn.
It was in West Hampstead, New York. And his name
is Don the zomber is his name, and him and
another guy on the restaurant, and he's best friends with

(16:03):
another friend of mine, Captain Howie, who will tell you
every story about how I can't drive a boat to
save my life. Guys, welcome to the program. Glad to
have you, Captain Howie. How are you welcome aboard on
this boat?

Speaker 4 (16:16):
Pay good, Sean, good to talk to you again. You know, yeah,
you want to go way back to when you started.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Well, first of all, I want everyone to know you're
a hero. He was on the NYPD and he was
on a job and somebody threw acid in his face,
ended up becoming blind in one eye. And one of
the nicest people you'll ever meet in your life. And
he recently got honored for his service and recognized for
a service. So you're a real hero and just like

(16:46):
every law enforcement officer. And we don't put you guys
on a pedestal enough. So I want people to know
that about you.

Speaker 4 (16:52):
Oh thanks, Sean. I appreciate you saying that. Yeah, never
regreaded one thing. If I ever had it to it
over again, I guess maybe I would say I would
duck and help. But other than that, everything turned out fine.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Well, I mean, you know you went through the rest
of your life. I mean you had life long injuries
as a result. Don welcome back to you now. I
had a chance to talk to you before. Is it
true that when you own the nor would in that
I was your dishwasher every Friday, Saturday and Sunday night

(17:27):
and I was twelve years old?

Speaker 5 (17:29):
Absolutely true? Show absolutely yeah, all right?

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Is it true? Do you remember the chef Hans who
quit on Thanksgiving Day?

Speaker 5 (17:40):
I'm actually cold in sick that day and you were there.
You and I were working in the kitchen. We were
doing prep work, and Hans pauls and in his German accent,
he said, Boss, I am feeling very sick today and
I won't be in So I had three turkeys in
the oven going fun. You were washing dishes and I

(18:02):
turned around. I threw an eighth or night you and
I said, Sean, you were the assistant chip today and
from that point on you became a true and want
to cook. After that period of time, listen, you.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Taught me how to cook everything. I don't know if
you remember, but I learned how to cook shrimp scampy
from you. I learned how to you know, do stuffed lobster.
I learned that we'd have live lobsters. I cut them over,
rip out that sack, and you you taught me how
to cook them steaks and burgers and a bar menu. Second,

(18:37):
the food was phenomenal, and and a bunch of other dishes.
And to this day, don cooking is a passion of mine.
I cook for everybody all the time. I never want
anyone to cook for me.

Speaker 5 (18:50):
Well, you did a great You did a great job, Sean.
You know, you know you learned well, and I'm glad
you were there, you know. And you guys, you and
your friend Eric Boltings, who I work with now at
Honey the Control It was Eric.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
It was actually John, his older brother at the time,
and then I think Eric went to work later.

Speaker 5 (19:11):
Yeah, yeah, but I know you guys were hit no
Saint Holy girls after shift. But that's okay. It turned
out to be a great guy, you know.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
And this is a great story because it was a
very different time. People wouldn't understand it in this day
and age. But we finished our shift maybe like two
o'clock in the morning whenever. And by the way, you
didn't have a dishwasher machine. I had to scrub those
pots and pans. I'll never forget. I'd always come in
early on Fridays because you guys didn't clean a thing
from the entire week, and I had to clean the

(19:45):
entire weeks were at the stuff before the rush came
that night, and Fridays were brutal for me.

Speaker 5 (19:51):
Well, that made it tough. That's why you're doing so well, Okay, it.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Made me tough. Do you remember I remember how much
you paid me. Do you have any idea what you
paid me an hour.

Speaker 5 (20:02):
I have no idea.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Well it was I think it was minimum wage at
the time. It was two dollars and thirty five cents
an hour.

Speaker 5 (20:09):
Well it deserved more, No, I.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Honestly I didn't. I mean, I was so happy to
have that job, and you guys were so cool to us.
At the end of the night, you know, we'd have
one or two Saint Pauly girls fly home on our bicycles.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
I loved it. I honestly loved that job.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
You know what a sad day in my life was
is you sat us down and said you're changing the
restaurant into a club called bo Jangles.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
You remember that, Yeah, I know, the last mistake?

Speaker 5 (20:39):
Yes, I remember.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
Well did it end up being a mistake because I
think it stayed on It was open for a lot
of years. Am I wrong?

Speaker 5 (20:48):
No, it stayed on for about a year. But you know,
the restaurant business is tough, location, location, location, So if
we would have been on Hempstead Turnpike instead of Hempstead,
you might have been a different story. But you know,
you know what, can I say? I stayed twenty twenty you.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
Know, but that's the thing, and you know, we all
talk about this.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
People don't know that the margins in terms of food
are so slim, and most restaurants make their money with
selling alcohol. And and Captain Howie, you know, there's nothing
more fun than hanging out on his yacht. He's got
this massive boat of his. We call him Captain Howie
because he would teach people how to drive boats. Was

(21:34):
I I was probably your worst student?

Speaker 3 (21:36):
Right?

Speaker 4 (21:37):
Well? Yeah, I guess so. Well, you know what, Yeah,
all the time that say, let's show and listen, this
is not your station Wigan, that you're trying to drive.
You know, this is a boat. So once I got
that across to you, he started coming across pretty well
until the time came and said I had enough of this,
let's go to lunch.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
No, do you remember so I had twin out words
in this boat that I bought. I bought a Boston
Whaler and had twin out boards. Yeah, okay. The slips
to park your boat, I guess dock your boat would
be the appropriate term, were so tiny you had like
an inch on each side if you were between two boats.

(22:18):
And you know, people that on the on the dock
would see me coming in and knew that I was
about to dock the boat. They're like, oh boy, all
hands on deck, like the whole dock knew that a
crash was about to occur, so they would come to assist.
And then if they saw you there and I wasn't
by myself, they all felt better because they knew that

(22:39):
you would handle it. But I don't know if you remember,
I kind of crashed into a couple of boats that
were neighboring next to mine. I blame them for it
because it's not my fault. They didn't give me enough
room on either side.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
It's not your fault, but they even put their boats
next to you. But yeah, exactly, doc you know, it
was more like entertainment. Guess was how did he's coming?
With the folks? They spread the word around and he
all came down to watch the show.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
You'd hear the fog horn. It would be incomes anity.
It was unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (23:11):
It came over a loud speaker. How did he's come in?
And everybody ran down to the dock to watch the
to watch this show. So it did good, all right?
Just how to be?

Speaker 1 (23:21):
I just hated it.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
It was too stressful for me because I knew I
couldn't do it well? All right, quick break, We'll come
back more with my friends Captain Howie and the guy
that hired me to be a dishwasher when I was twelve. Uh,
Don the Zombers with us, and I know for the
new critics out there that don't believe me too bad.
There you go, there's your proof. We'll continue.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
Up next our final round up and information overload hours.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
All right, we continue now, my dear friend Captain how
and you know I keep telling everyone. Yeah, I was
washing dishes every Friday, Saturday, Sunday night at the Norwood Inn.
And Don Dezomber was my boss, and he's with us
to confirm that I'm not a liar as some of
you have accused.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
Don.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Did you get out of the restaurant business? Were good
after that? What did you do next?

Speaker 5 (24:23):
Yes? While I was in the restaurant business, I worked
in it and I was held various positions for different companies,
Sabarrow one of them, I was vice president of information
technology but and then another company after that. But you know,

(24:44):
the corporate world is cruel. And I became a peace
officer in the early twenty ten twenty twelve area. I
was the oldest guy in the police academy, so I
became a a piece of officer. I was a corn
officer and then I'm currently working with the Huntington's Maritime Divisions.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
And that's where Eric Faultings, he's like one of the
top guys there.

Speaker 5 (25:12):
Right Yeah, no, I'm not the top guy. I'm I'm
the oldest guy there right now. I'm working with Faultings
right now. He's one of my partners. We've been on
patrol a number They.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Had a great family and honestly they were They were
so nice to me growing up too. I'm very grateful.
I don't think you know, and I'll tell you the
impact that job had on me in my life because
then I after you've you know, changed, you kind of
change formats in a sense, you changed the business. And

(25:45):
I remember when you sat us down and you said, yeah,
we might be able to use you here and there.
But I actually, for a while, I think I cleaned
bo Jangles like the morning after the night before. But
it just wasn't enough hours, and I went to work
at a place called the Mary Peddler in Flora Park
and that's when, at seventeen, they taught me how to
be a bartender. First I was a bus boy, and

(26:06):
I think I waited tables for a while, but I
really loved tendon bar. And then I worked at Salisbury
on the Green at the time at Eisenhower Park. They
since changed the name, and I used to do five
weddings a weekend tending bar. I made a fortune. All
my friends couldn't understand why I always had a lot
of cash in my pocket, and it's because I worked
and I loved it. And I think my parents liked

(26:29):
it too, because they knew that I was doing something productive.
I don't know if you know that had a big
impact on my life.

Speaker 5 (26:35):
Yeah, your parents were in law enforcement also, right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
My mom worked at Nassau County. She was a prison guard.
My dad was in family corp probation. He also waited
tables on weekends. If you remember the name Carl Hoppel,
he worked for him for a while. But you know,
how did you one day figure out it was me?
You know, I guess maybe you saw me on Fox

(26:59):
or talk to Captain Howie have mean, I mean, how
did you? I was surprised you even remember me.

Speaker 5 (27:05):
Well, I heard one of your news forecast, you know,
your news releases on TV and you mentioned them, No
it is, and I go, God, that's it. And I
talked to Captain Howie. He goes, yeah, he confirmed it,
and I says, yeah, this guy works for me. You know,
so when I when I meet people now and they go,

(27:29):
you know what you do in your life? Just that
and the other thing. I got to tell you one thing,
I'm very proud to announce that I knew Sean have
that he worked in my restaurant, because man, he turned
out to be a great guy.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Well, you know what, working is probably the best thing
kids can do. And working for minimum wage. That's why
I don't like this. You know, let's raise the minimum
wage to four hundred dollars an hour. Nobody's going to
be able to afford a hamburger or a meal. It's insane.
But uh, both of you guys played a very big
impact on I had a very big impact in my life.
Thank you, both guys. Appreciate it. We'll talk soon. Eight

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