January 7, 2026 • 28 mins
Sean Hannity reacts to President Trump’s announcement that Venezuela will turn over 30–50 million barrels of sanctioned oil to the U.S., with proceeds controlled to benefit both nations. He’s joined by Secretary of the Interior Doug Burgum, also Chairman of the National Energy Dominance Council, to explain how the plan could impact U.S. refiners, global adversaries, and energy security. Burgum details why Venezuelan crude requires specific blending and logistics, and how U.S. production can replace hostile-state influence in the region. The hour connects energy policy, national security, and economic leverage in a single strategy discussion.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All Right, News, Roundup, Information, Overload hour of the Sean
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Hannity Show, Toll free on numbers eight hundred ninety four
one Seawan if you want to be a part of
the program. As I was making my way on air
last night, President Trump put on Truth Social I am
pleased to announce that the interim authorities in Venezuela will
be turning over thirty and fifty million barrels of high quality,
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sanctioned oil to the US. The oil will be sold
at its market price, and that money will be controlled
by me, as the President, to ensure it is used
to benefit the people of Venezuela and the people of
the US. I have asked the Energy Secretary, Chris Right,
to execute the plan immediately. It will be taking taken
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by storage ships and brought directly to unloading docs in
the US. Thank you for your attention to this matter. Now,
Doug Bergram is going to join us in a second.
Now he will work with energy executives in this country,
and this week they've begun those discussions in terms of
how to help US energy and refining sectors and help
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Venezuela begin a safe, proper transition that will reopen the
world's largest oil reserves to lawful trade, lawful investment, and
frankly wealth production. Anyway, he is the Interior Secretary and
the Chairman of the National Energy Dominance Council. Is also
a friend of the program. Secretary. Great to have you back.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
How are you sean? Great to be with you, and
let me just stof the top say thank you for
all that you do to educate your listeners and your viewers,
including on this segment. Great to have you have the
post from the President. We've got a team that's on it,
moving quickly, and this is part of the top line.
President Trump is restoring prosperity, safety, and security to Venezuela.
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And when he does that, he's firfuly restoring prosperity, safety,
and security to the United States, because you can't separate
energy policy from national security, and you can't separate energy
from prosperity. And certainly turning Venezuela into an economic partner
versus what they were a playground for every bad actor
in the world, from Hamas to Habala, Iran, Russia, China.
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Everybody was down there. They're out, We're in, and this
is going to be a huge win for Americans thickly
for the refiners that we have that you could really
utilize at Venezuelan Oil and the refineries here in the US.
It's going to lead to lower gas prices for everybody
in the US. So this is a win strategically, brilliant
on President Trump's part, flawless, breathtaking execution with President Trump
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as our commander of chief and then and then following
up with quick action on the economic side. This is
just this is President Trump in action. It's a beautiful
thing to watch and it's fantastic to be part of it.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
It's really going to take America and American oil companies
and the ingenuity that we have in our oil industry,
in which you are, you know, really familiar with it,
because I mean you have been been in this industry
now for decades in your life. What plan is in
place to do this and get these you know, get
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drilling up to full capacity, refining up to full capacity.
My understanding is the oil in Venezuela is not the
cleanest oil. They refer to it as dirty or oil,
so it takes an extra amount of refining. How long
emission are we talking about here to get get it
up and running and profitable as quickly as possible.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Well, it'll come in phases, Sean, And I wouldn't describe
it necessarily as their oil is heavy, it's got high viscosity,
and so what it needs to get it flowing, to
get it flowing through pipelines, to get it flowing into
a transport ship is it needs to be diluted. And
diliment is what it's called in the industry. But what
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that can be a petroleum derivative you who has a
whole bunch of that. The United States has a bunch
of that. It can be the light tweet crew that
we have. It can be a product called Napta which
comes out of our refining. For every five barrels that
come out of Venezuela, there needs to be about one
barrel of this light stuff shipped in to be able
to mix with theirs. And you know who'd been providing
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all that, Russia had been providing all that we can
knock rush out of the market. US production will provide
those the light ends that we need to help advance this.
And then of course you mentioned this exactly technology they
have destroyed this country. It's just shocking, Sean, as you said,
they literally should be looking like one of the richest
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newest countries in the world. Take a city in Saudi
Arabia with gleaming shining, highest GDPs in the world in
those countries, and then you're talking Venezuela with the same
resource and the same opportunity, but corrupt leadership, criminal organizational
leadership of the country and literally people starving. Eight million
people have fled that country all because of the economic systems,
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and you're a beacon for preaching against how so socialism
can destroy countries And this is just a case This
is this is a case study that everybody in the
world should just take a look at and say, here's
a here's b here's America, here's where we've got capitalism working,
and here's where we've got socialism destroying people's lives and
their prosperity. So to get this thing going again, the
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flow of economic technology and goods, and the flow of
like our light and liquids which will help them pump
up their capability, and even just things that during this
economic sanctions, things like high end compressor pumps that they
could use for gas injection to get more oil coming
out of the ground. They haven't been able to buy
the latest technology. We can now provide that from American
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companies into the Venezuelan oil patch and some things could
start moving very quickly. They today produce less than a
million barrels of oil today. That's less than my home
state of North Dakota, and Venezuela is twice the size
of Texas. I mean this is they have a lot
of reserves because it's a big area, and they have
literally that their peak they were almost four times higher
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than that. So think of that, Think of the company
that's gone from four x to less than one x
because of leadership. That's the case here US US companies,
US technology that we're talking to. These companies many are
eager to jump in here and help turn this around quickly.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Let's talk about the involvement of American companies from the
very beginning, dated back to the nineteen twenties, and how
it was American ingenuity, American companies that built out their
oil infrastructure. Are they on board to do what will
be necessary to help build it out to maximum capacity.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Well, naturally, we've got some US companies that have been
really burned financially by what you've described. I mean, and
particularly under Chavez and Maduro here where we've had companies
as recently as in the last two decades that have
lost tens of billions of dollars, essentially consticated their equipment,
their oil leases. All this gone and taken. But as
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you've said, I mean, the corrupt, incompetent leadership has just
destroyed an entire an entire industry and it's a and
not only did that, then what they did the talent
they did have still in Venezuela that could have run
this stuff they got rid of. It's estimated that over
twenty thousand people who understood the oil industry had left
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or got fired or run out of Venezuela. They were
replaced by friends of the you know, Maduro regime. Because
they were friends of they became jobs programs for cronies
who took high salaries but didn't know anything about the
oil industry. So the corruption is just unlimited, Sean in
terms of how they've destroyed an industry. So some companies
are a little risk adverse because they've been in there before,
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they've lost I think what they like what they're seeing
this week. They liked that the US is in charge.
They liked that President Trump has got a firm hold
on this. We liked that we've got a military presence.
They liked the fact that the that the embargo is
going to remain in place, all oil come in or
out of Venezuela going to be controlled by the US.
No more dark fleet. Some more successes today and chasing
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down part of these you know, dark fleet unflagged ships
that are you know, around the world. I mean, Venezuela's
oil sales were going to fund terrorism in Iran, they
were going to fund our adversaries around the world. We're
putting a stop to all of that. And and you
know that that gives us companies some confidence that we're
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in a position where we can we're actually going to
deliver and get this industry going to the benefit of
the American people and the benefit of Venezuela's people.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
All right, quick break right back. We'll continue more with
Doug Burgram, Secretary of Interior, Chairman of the National Energy
Dominance Council on the other side. We'll get to your
calls coming up as well. Eight hundred and nine four
one seawn our number if you want to be a
part of the program. All right, we continue with the
Secretary of Interior, also the Chairman of the National Energy
Dominance Council, Doug Bergram is with us, let's talk a
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little bit about a time frame here. How long do
you think it will be or how long will it
take for American companies to really get this thing up
and running at a level that that can benefit the
people of Venezuela.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Well, it's a when we say American companies, it's again
it's a it's a spectrum. We've got folks in this
industry with great experience and going into some of the roughest, toughest,
war torn areas of the world to develop their energy resources.
The Middle East and war have kind of gone together.
The Middle East and oil have gone together. So there's
there's companies here in the US that went into uh,
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you know, it went into Iraq, uh you know, at
a time when things were you know, pretty exciting. Some
of those folks have already reached out and said, hey,
we've got experience, we got team members, we've got the security,
we're ready to go. Let's go. You take the large
global multinationals that have got you know, boards of directors
and public shareholders, they're going to be a little more cautious.
But we have a mix of this and unfortunately in
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our US and we've got, you know, industries with a
lot of players. We're talking to everybody and finding those
folks that have an appetite that are willing to jump
in and get their risk adjusted returns they need for
to be able to deploy deploy capital and people. But
of course, all of his starts, all of the starts
back with President Trump, we couldn't even be having this
suggession Sean because without having an energy dominance policy that
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President Trump had acted and enabled to go on, we
could never have taken out the Iran nuclear facilities back
in June. We couldn't have done that because the price
of oil had gone over one hundred bucks and the
price the pump would be up to three dollars. But
when President Trump took that action, nothing happened at home.
We take out Maduro, the price that the pump doesn't change.
Some oil company's stocks actually go up. All of that
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is because President Trump's operating from a position not just
of courageous leadership, but he put in place the underpinning
of this energy dominance policy where we can take action
against countries that are bad actors, people that that do
not have the interest in the United States in mind. We
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can take those actions to protect our people and protect
our country and protect our values. We can do all
that and guess what, the price stays the same into pump.
So he's got degrees the freedom President Trump does because
he created in an environment where he has those degrees.
In past presidents haven't created the environment to allow this
kind of leadership. So he took all the right steps
in the last twelve months leading up to this. Again,
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I'd say, you know, a plus on strategy and execution
for the president.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
What does this mean for Cuba? Am I wrong in
assuming that all of Cuba's energy resources came from Venezuela.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah, Cuba's got virtually no energy resources of themselves, and
they were relying on you know, hey, we'll trade, We'll
provide security for Maduro. We saw how that worked out.
You know, these were supposed to be the most fearsome
and talented equivalent of the you know, the I hate
to even call them the Secret Service, but these guys
are supposed to be the best of the best. Maduro
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didn't even trust his own army to guard him and
those guys provided no defense for Maduro on that night.
But you know, trading that kind of capability in will
provide security services, but then you sell us your cheap
oil that is sanctioned around the world and you're discounted oil,
and Cuba was living off that. So Cuba's economy very
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dependent on cheap Venezuelan sanctioned oil and that's about ready
to come to an end because when we're controlling it,
all the oil that's coming and going, this is going
to create real challenges for the Cuban economy, which is
a you know, again part of one of the larger
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positive effects that you'll see out of this strategy that
President Trump is executing on.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
I mean, it's really amazing what we're witnessing and watching.
I mean we see the potential now of the Iranian
regime falling right before our eyes. I would argue very
strongly that President Trump taking out their nuclear facilities jump
started this rebellion now that is all over the country
of Iran and protests that are going on and two
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cities now have fallen. I think probably we're looking at
Cuba really hanging by a thread, and they're on the
brink of falling as well, and freedom may come to Cuba,
and I would imagine they'd be a close ally pretty
pretty historic, amazing times we're living.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
In absolutely in Cuba, like Venezuela, well, they lack the
energy resources both proximity and other natural assets they have
that could be just a thriving, thriving economy under different leadership.
I mean, it could be amazing to see the transformation
that could happen quickly. And when you've got you've got
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a secure, stable, democratic environments, capital is going to flow
pretty quickly. There's a lot of capital in this world
that wants to go into places like this that have
the kind of upside potential that Cuban Venezuela does big time.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
And I get to see every fortune five hundred company,
you know, the minute that Cuba falls, you know, wanting
to go in there and rebuild that country. And that
could happen in just a couple of short years. Doug Bergram,
we really appreciate you, Interior Secretary Chairman of the National
Energy Dominance Council.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Great work.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Look forward to getting updates as the weeks and months
go forward, and thanks for all you doing.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
We appreciate it and.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Thank you Sean. Your work matters a lot and we're
grateful for you too.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Thank you, sir, appreciate all you're doing. Eight hundred and
ninety four to one, Shawn our number if you want
to be a part of the program. All right, back
to one of our top stories of the day, a
woman shot by an ICE agent Wednesday. We had Tom
Homan on last night talking about why they are flooding
the zone in Minneapolis, especially in light of all of
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the corruption I mean, I mean billions and billions and
billions of dollars in frauds stolen from all of you,
the American taxpayer. Anyway, a woman shot by an ICE
agent Wednesday morning, why trying to run over that agent
with her car? And that person has died. In a statement,
the Assistant DHS Secretary Trisha McLaughlin, a friend of this program,
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has said, quote, rioters blocked US Immigration and Customs enforcement
with a car, tried to run them over, something called
an act of domestic terrorism. That's when an ICE officer
opened fire and killed the woman. No ICE agents, thankfully
were seriously hurt. And the full DHS statement on the
Minneapolis shooting goes into this an ICE officer, fearing for
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his life in the lives of his fellow law enforcement
and the safety of the public, fired defensive shots. He
used his training, saved his own life and that of
his fellow officers. The alleged perpetrator was hit and is deceased.
The ICE officers who were hurt or expected to make
full recoveries. This is a direct consequence of constant attacks
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and demonization of our officers by sanctuary politicians who fuel
and encourage rampant assaults on our law enforcement officials. And
by the way, there's a thirteen hundred percent increase in
assaults against them and an eight thousand increase in death threats.
And of course we've seen doxing, and we have seen
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threats against ICE agents now rising. And then it gets worse.
You have this idiot, Minneapolis mayor Jacob Frye, telling ICE
agents to get the earth.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Out of Minneapolis.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Well, somebody explained to this moron what the supremacy clause
of the Constitution means. In other words, the jurisdiction to
enforce federal laws lies with the federal government, not idiots
like him. And it's this type of incendiary rhetoric that
results in the hostility towards ICE officials. Remember, you know,
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they have an entire application, an app set up to
warn people of pending ICE action. What does that do well?
That puts ICE agents lives in jeopardy. It eliminates the
element of surprise that law enforcement counts on, depends on
to effectively enforce the laws of the land. They don't
like the laws of the land, they should go and
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fight to try to change them. But they are enforcing
the laws of the land. You know, not one of
these mayors, not one of these politicians, ever raised their
voice when we were being lied to as twelve million
plus illegals entered our country, including known terrorists and cartel
members and gang members and murderers and rapists and other
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violent criminals.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Not one of them ever. You know.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
They wouldn't even stand for Lake and Riley's family during
a session a joint session speech by President Trump. They
wouldn't stand for Joscelyn Nungary's family. They wouldn't even stand
for a young man who had defeated cancer that became
a Secret Service agent.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
They wouldn't do any of that.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
I mean, they care more about what the rights of
illegals over the safety and security the American peace. Here's
this idiot mayor of Minneapolis. He should be impeached, and frankly,
he's aiding in a betting, in the law breaking. At
some point we've got to look at if you are
a sanctuary city or state, whether or not that is
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in and of itself aiding in a betting law breaking.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Here's this idiot mayor.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
There's little I can say again that'll make this situation better,
But I do have a message for our community, for
a city, and I have a message for ICE two. Ice,
get the fuck out of Minneapolis.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
We do not want you here. Your stated reason for
being in this city is to create some kind of safety,
and you are doing exactly the opposite. People are being hurt,
Families are being ripped apart. Long term Minneapolis residents that
have contributed so greatly to our city, to our culture,
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to our economy are being terrorized, and now somebody is dead.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
It's just the opposite of what he's saying, because what
he is doing is inciting people to be hostile towards
ICE agents whose only fault is enforcing the laws of
our country. We're talking about people, you know, again, they
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never mentioned the families, the victims, the Jostle Nungarys, the
Rachel Morins, the Lake and Rileyes, and the hundreds and
thousands of people that have been victims of murder and
rape and kidnapping and torture and other violent crimes. They
don't mention the drug cartels. They don't mention the known
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terrorists in this country. No, they only want to go
against law enforcement because they don't like the laws of
the land and they want to go back to the
Biden Harris years of open borders. What he is doing
is putting this rhetoric, is putting ICE officers' lives in
and that's why you see this dramatic increase in incidents
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and threats against ICE agents. I mean, it's really that simple.
All right, Let's get to our busy phones. Let's go
to Minnesota. Let's say hi to Marry You know, how
could you elect this idiot mayor, this dope of a
governor that you have. It's it's unfathomable to me.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
Hi Son, Well, first, I would like to apologize for
Jacob small Fries, dirty potty mouse. How an embarrassment, What
an embarrassment he is to me as a lifetime Minnesotan.
He is disgusting. You can call him small fries Shawan,
or you can call him fry baby. I don't care.
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But I just would like to say, he I believe
you just quoted him as saying, or he maybe I
heard it myself, that they are committing terrorism. I would
like to say, what about the terrorism? As a Minnesota
res I live one mile west of the Minneapolis border,
I would like to say, what about the tax fraud
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terrorism against Minnesota residents? Like I'm not a math genius shown,
but eight billion dollars, which most of the small business
owners that I talked.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
To eight billion and going higher by the day, were
We're just at the tip of the iceberger finding out
how deep this fraud.
Speaker 6 (21:24):
Is gone exactly. I just had a business, small business
owner tell me it's probably at least double that some
Minnesotans aren't dumb, and the small people like me and
the business owners I talked to, they are so fed up.
And I would like to say, eight billion dollars in
tax fraud in Minnesota sean to me not a math genius,
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but that means that every single frickin penny they have
taken from me if I found that I am everything.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
They haven't taken from you. They've stolen from you.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
They didn't need any of it. Sean. If they get
a billion away to fraudsters, they didn't need my tax dollars.
And you know how hard it is fear taxes out here.
They've taken thousands from me. I'm sick of it. I'm
sick of it. And the small business owners I've talked
to out here are sick of it too. And I
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just talked to one a couple of minutes ago, and
they know about they pay attention, and they know about
this ICE agent that this woman tried to run over,
and I'm sorry she put herself in harm's way. In fact,
didn't they designate these people that are attacking ICE agents?
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Aren't they considered domestic terrorist? Sehn?
Speaker 1 (22:43):
I would argue, yes, okay, I would argue this an
attack on law enforcement. I mean trying to drive your
car and kill law enforcement. Sorry, they have every right, duty,
obligation to defend themselves and in this case, that is
clear what happened.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
Yes, And I would like to say, Sean, for the
small business owners I talked to every day, I would
say a month ago, people were still telling me they
thought Walls would get reelected. You have to realize Minnesotans
are very cynical, and with all the fraud they're finding
coming out in the open, you can see why. But
I would say then two weeks ago or so, when
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Nick Shirley exposed all these daycares, I started hearing from
Minnesota business owners. Oh, my brother in law, who's far
loved says he's he voted for Wallas before, but now
he's not going to vote for him with all this fraud.
And now what I'm hearing is obviously he's dropped out
of the race. But I would like to say Minnesotans
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I think are cautiously hopeful. At least the business owners
that I talked to are cautiously hopeful. They're still pretty
cynical because Minnesota. But I think we have a chance.
This my opinion, I think we have as I think
the Democrats are going down in Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Sean, I don't let me tell you.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
That you have a chance at a US Senate seat
this year and a chance at the new governor this year. Yeah,
And I'll tell you this, if the people in Minnesota
don't wake up and don't get rid of people like
Ellison and Walls and you know, you know, fry Baby
and the rest of them, then your state is gone.
You might as well pack your bags, come to Florida,
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go to Texas, go to Tennessee, go to the Carolinas.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Because there's no hope for your state.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
It's sort of like you know, I talked about this
with O'Reilly earlier today. I mean, you've got this tenant overseer,
if you can believe it, a New York tenant advocate
who's literally calling for the seizure of private property, you know,
making pronouncements that it's important that white people feel defeated,
and who said I want to impoverish the white middle class.
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I mean, you can't help a city that votes for
something like that.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
You just can't.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
Well, I think we, I think we have a chance
out here because Sewan, guess what, you can't do anything
about what's going wrong till you know, and what's happening
right now, Sean is all coming out in the open.
It's all the dirt is coming out. And you know what,
no matter which side of the political spectrum you're on
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in Minnesota, and I will say most of the small
business owners are common sense conservatives. But no matter which
side you're on, when you hear eight billion in fraud.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Sean, this is your chance in see Mary in Minnesota.
Tell everybody you know, seize the moment, get rid of
them all, vote them out. I've got to move on.
I'm praying for the people of Minnesota that they wise
up surely my free state of Florida.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Hey, Shirley, how are you?
Speaker 7 (25:49):
Hi?
Speaker 2 (25:49):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (25:51):
I'm good, glad you called?
Speaker 7 (25:53):
Oh me too? Okay. My question is what is the
deal with the seizing of the proper property. I just
don't understand the legalities of that. I listen to this
stuff and I've been working for thirty five years. I
do hair, and it's an accomplishment. This is the American dream.
It makes you feel so good when you have something
that is truly yours. And what I think about I
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think about my parents' age. My parents are gone, but
people that age and that are older, this is frightening.
And they can't say things that are impossible to do,
but people believe it. So I'm wondering, what are the
legalities of this idiocy?
Speaker 1 (26:30):
They don't have the right to do it, Number one,
But what have I been saying. And you're going to
hear this a lot from me this year, and for
all of you that are going to accuse me of
being repetitive, I plead guilty. This is the single most
important midterm election in our lifetime because the radicals have
taken over the Democratic Party, the Tim Walls, the Keith Ellison's,
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the Jacob Fries, the Mom Donnie's, the AOC's, the squad
Grandpa Bernie Pocahontas. And if you don't go out and
vote this coming November and vote in droves, make it
the most important election in your lifetime, these people will
then get back in power. They will want to destroy
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Donald Trump everybody around him, and all progress will stop.
I want everyone to pledge to themselves today that they're
going to vote in November. It's not That's all I need.
I'm not asking for anything else, is that everybody be
determined to show up in massive numbers all across the country,
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and we have to overcome historical trends to win this midterm.
We can do it. Don't let anybody tell you we can't.
I've got a roll. I do appreciate your call. Thanks
for listening, Thanks for being out there.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
Right.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
That's gonna wrap things up for today.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
A great Hannity tonight, nine Eastern on the Fox News Channel.
The radicalized rhetoric, dangerous rhetoric of the left in light
of what has happened in Minnesota. Today, we will chronicle
all of it. These sanctuary city mayors and state mayors
and state governors, they are causing havoc and danger. Anyway,
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todd Lyons will have a list of reporters, Jonathan Turley.
On the legal aspect, we have citizen journalist Nick Shirley tonight,
also Ron De Santis, James Comer, Riley Gaines, Clay Travis Nineties,
Turns s ADVR Hannity on Fox Sea. Then back here tomorrow.
Thank you for making this show possible.
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one Seawan if you want to be a part of
the program. As I was making my way on air
last night, President Trump put on Truth Social I am
pleased to announce that the interim authorities in Venezuela will
be turning over thirty and fifty million barrels of high quality,
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sanctioned oil to the US. The oil will be sold
at its market price, and that money will be controlled
by me, as the President, to ensure it is used
to benefit the people of Venezuela and the people of
the US. I have asked the Energy Secretary, Chris Right,
to execute the plan immediately. It will be taking taken
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by storage ships and brought directly to unloading docs in
the US. Thank you for your attention to this matter. Now,
Doug Bergram is going to join us in a second.
Now he will work with energy executives in this country,
and this week they've begun those discussions in terms of
how to help US energy and refining sectors and help
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Venezuela begin a safe, proper transition that will reopen the
world's largest oil reserves to lawful trade, lawful investment, and
frankly wealth production. Anyway, he is the Interior Secretary and
the Chairman of the National Energy Dominance Council. Is also
a friend of the program. Secretary. Great to have you back.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
How are you sean? Great to be with you, and
let me just stof the top say thank you for
all that you do to educate your listeners and your viewers,
including on this segment. Great to have you have the
post from the President. We've got a team that's on it,
moving quickly, and this is part of the top line.
President Trump is restoring prosperity, safety, and security to Venezuela.
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And when he does that, he's firfuly restoring prosperity, safety,
and security to the United States, because you can't separate
energy policy from national security, and you can't separate energy
from prosperity. And certainly turning Venezuela into an economic partner
versus what they were a playground for every bad actor
in the world, from Hamas to Habala, Iran, Russia, China.
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Everybody was down there. They're out, We're in, and this
is going to be a huge win for Americans thickly
for the refiners that we have that you could really
utilize at Venezuelan Oil and the refineries here in the US.
It's going to lead to lower gas prices for everybody
in the US. So this is a win strategically, brilliant
on President Trump's part, flawless, breathtaking execution with President Trump
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as our commander of chief and then and then following
up with quick action on the economic side. This is
just this is President Trump in action. It's a beautiful
thing to watch and it's fantastic to be part of it.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
It's really going to take America and American oil companies
and the ingenuity that we have in our oil industry,
in which you are, you know, really familiar with it,
because I mean you have been been in this industry
now for decades in your life. What plan is in
place to do this and get these you know, get
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drilling up to full capacity, refining up to full capacity.
My understanding is the oil in Venezuela is not the
cleanest oil. They refer to it as dirty or oil,
so it takes an extra amount of refining. How long
emission are we talking about here to get get it
up and running and profitable as quickly as possible.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Well, it'll come in phases, Sean, And I wouldn't describe
it necessarily as their oil is heavy, it's got high viscosity,
and so what it needs to get it flowing, to
get it flowing through pipelines, to get it flowing into
a transport ship is it needs to be diluted. And
diliment is what it's called in the industry. But what
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that can be a petroleum derivative you who has a
whole bunch of that. The United States has a bunch
of that. It can be the light tweet crew that
we have. It can be a product called Napta which
comes out of our refining. For every five barrels that
come out of Venezuela, there needs to be about one
barrel of this light stuff shipped in to be able
to mix with theirs. And you know who'd been providing
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all that, Russia had been providing all that we can
knock rush out of the market. US production will provide
those the light ends that we need to help advance this.
And then of course you mentioned this exactly technology they
have destroyed this country. It's just shocking, Sean, as you said,
they literally should be looking like one of the richest
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newest countries in the world. Take a city in Saudi
Arabia with gleaming shining, highest GDPs in the world in
those countries, and then you're talking Venezuela with the same
resource and the same opportunity, but corrupt leadership, criminal organizational
leadership of the country and literally people starving. Eight million
people have fled that country all because of the economic systems,
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and you're a beacon for preaching against how so socialism
can destroy countries And this is just a case This
is this is a case study that everybody in the
world should just take a look at and say, here's
a here's b here's America, here's where we've got capitalism working,
and here's where we've got socialism destroying people's lives and
their prosperity. So to get this thing going again, the
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flow of economic technology and goods, and the flow of
like our light and liquids which will help them pump
up their capability, and even just things that during this
economic sanctions, things like high end compressor pumps that they
could use for gas injection to get more oil coming
out of the ground. They haven't been able to buy
the latest technology. We can now provide that from American
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companies into the Venezuelan oil patch and some things could
start moving very quickly. They today produce less than a
million barrels of oil today. That's less than my home
state of North Dakota, and Venezuela is twice the size
of Texas. I mean this is they have a lot
of reserves because it's a big area, and they have
literally that their peak they were almost four times higher
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than that. So think of that, Think of the company
that's gone from four x to less than one x
because of leadership. That's the case here US US companies,
US technology that we're talking to. These companies many are
eager to jump in here and help turn this around quickly.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Let's talk about the involvement of American companies from the
very beginning, dated back to the nineteen twenties, and how
it was American ingenuity, American companies that built out their
oil infrastructure. Are they on board to do what will
be necessary to help build it out to maximum capacity.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Well, naturally, we've got some US companies that have been
really burned financially by what you've described. I mean, and
particularly under Chavez and Maduro here where we've had companies
as recently as in the last two decades that have
lost tens of billions of dollars, essentially consticated their equipment,
their oil leases. All this gone and taken. But as
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you've said, I mean, the corrupt, incompetent leadership has just
destroyed an entire an entire industry and it's a and
not only did that, then what they did the talent
they did have still in Venezuela that could have run
this stuff they got rid of. It's estimated that over
twenty thousand people who understood the oil industry had left
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or got fired or run out of Venezuela. They were
replaced by friends of the you know, Maduro regime. Because
they were friends of they became jobs programs for cronies
who took high salaries but didn't know anything about the
oil industry. So the corruption is just unlimited, Sean in
terms of how they've destroyed an industry. So some companies
are a little risk adverse because they've been in there before,
(07:45):
they've lost I think what they like what they're seeing
this week. They liked that the US is in charge.
They liked that President Trump has got a firm hold
on this. We liked that we've got a military presence.
They liked the fact that the that the embargo is
going to remain in place, all oil come in or
out of Venezuela going to be controlled by the US.
No more dark fleet. Some more successes today and chasing
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down part of these you know, dark fleet unflagged ships
that are you know, around the world. I mean, Venezuela's
oil sales were going to fund terrorism in Iran, they
were going to fund our adversaries around the world. We're
putting a stop to all of that. And and you
know that that gives us companies some confidence that we're
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in a position where we can we're actually going to
deliver and get this industry going to the benefit of
the American people and the benefit of Venezuela's people.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
All right, quick break right back. We'll continue more with
Doug Burgram, Secretary of Interior, Chairman of the National Energy
Dominance Council on the other side. We'll get to your
calls coming up as well. Eight hundred and nine four
one seawn our number if you want to be a
part of the program. All right, we continue with the
Secretary of Interior, also the Chairman of the National Energy
Dominance Council, Doug Bergram is with us, let's talk a
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little bit about a time frame here. How long do
you think it will be or how long will it
take for American companies to really get this thing up
and running at a level that that can benefit the
people of Venezuela.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Well, it's a when we say American companies, it's again
it's a it's a spectrum. We've got folks in this
industry with great experience and going into some of the roughest, toughest,
war torn areas of the world to develop their energy resources.
The Middle East and war have kind of gone together.
The Middle East and oil have gone together. So there's
there's companies here in the US that went into uh,
(09:34):
you know, it went into Iraq, uh you know, at
a time when things were you know, pretty exciting. Some
of those folks have already reached out and said, hey,
we've got experience, we got team members, we've got the security,
we're ready to go. Let's go. You take the large
global multinationals that have got you know, boards of directors
and public shareholders, they're going to be a little more cautious.
But we have a mix of this and unfortunately in
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our US and we've got, you know, industries with a
lot of players. We're talking to everybody and finding those
folks that have an appetite that are willing to jump
in and get their risk adjusted returns they need for
to be able to deploy deploy capital and people. But
of course, all of his starts, all of the starts
back with President Trump, we couldn't even be having this
suggession Sean because without having an energy dominance policy that
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President Trump had acted and enabled to go on, we
could never have taken out the Iran nuclear facilities back
in June. We couldn't have done that because the price
of oil had gone over one hundred bucks and the
price the pump would be up to three dollars. But
when President Trump took that action, nothing happened at home.
We take out Maduro, the price that the pump doesn't change.
Some oil company's stocks actually go up. All of that
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is because President Trump's operating from a position not just
of courageous leadership, but he put in place the underpinning
of this energy dominance policy where we can take action
against countries that are bad actors, people that that do
not have the interest in the United States in mind. We
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can take those actions to protect our people and protect
our country and protect our values. We can do all
that and guess what, the price stays the same into pump.
So he's got degrees the freedom President Trump does because
he created in an environment where he has those degrees.
In past presidents haven't created the environment to allow this
kind of leadership. So he took all the right steps
in the last twelve months leading up to this. Again,
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I'd say, you know, a plus on strategy and execution
for the president.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
What does this mean for Cuba? Am I wrong in
assuming that all of Cuba's energy resources came from Venezuela.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah, Cuba's got virtually no energy resources of themselves, and
they were relying on you know, hey, we'll trade, We'll
provide security for Maduro. We saw how that worked out.
You know, these were supposed to be the most fearsome
and talented equivalent of the you know, the I hate
to even call them the Secret Service, but these guys
are supposed to be the best of the best. Maduro
(12:00):
didn't even trust his own army to guard him and
those guys provided no defense for Maduro on that night.
But you know, trading that kind of capability in will
provide security services, but then you sell us your cheap
oil that is sanctioned around the world and you're discounted oil,
and Cuba was living off that. So Cuba's economy very
(12:21):
dependent on cheap Venezuelan sanctioned oil and that's about ready
to come to an end because when we're controlling it,
all the oil that's coming and going, this is going
to create real challenges for the Cuban economy, which is
a you know, again part of one of the larger
(12:41):
positive effects that you'll see out of this strategy that
President Trump is executing on.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
I mean, it's really amazing what we're witnessing and watching.
I mean we see the potential now of the Iranian
regime falling right before our eyes. I would argue very
strongly that President Trump taking out their nuclear facilities jump
started this rebellion now that is all over the country
of Iran and protests that are going on and two
(13:09):
cities now have fallen. I think probably we're looking at
Cuba really hanging by a thread, and they're on the
brink of falling as well, and freedom may come to Cuba,
and I would imagine they'd be a close ally pretty
pretty historic, amazing times we're living.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
In absolutely in Cuba, like Venezuela, well, they lack the
energy resources both proximity and other natural assets they have
that could be just a thriving, thriving economy under different leadership.
I mean, it could be amazing to see the transformation
that could happen quickly. And when you've got you've got
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a secure, stable, democratic environments, capital is going to flow
pretty quickly. There's a lot of capital in this world
that wants to go into places like this that have
the kind of upside potential that Cuban Venezuela does big time.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
And I get to see every fortune five hundred company,
you know, the minute that Cuba falls, you know, wanting
to go in there and rebuild that country. And that
could happen in just a couple of short years. Doug Bergram,
we really appreciate you, Interior Secretary Chairman of the National
Energy Dominance Council.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Great work.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Look forward to getting updates as the weeks and months
go forward, and thanks for all you doing.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
We appreciate it and.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Thank you Sean. Your work matters a lot and we're
grateful for you too.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Thank you, sir, appreciate all you're doing. Eight hundred and
ninety four to one, Shawn our number if you want
to be a part of the program. All right, back
to one of our top stories of the day, a
woman shot by an ICE agent Wednesday. We had Tom
Homan on last night talking about why they are flooding
the zone in Minneapolis, especially in light of all of
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the corruption I mean, I mean billions and billions and
billions of dollars in frauds stolen from all of you,
the American taxpayer. Anyway, a woman shot by an ICE
agent Wednesday morning, why trying to run over that agent
with her car? And that person has died. In a statement,
the Assistant DHS Secretary Trisha McLaughlin, a friend of this program,
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has said, quote, rioters blocked US Immigration and Customs enforcement
with a car, tried to run them over, something called
an act of domestic terrorism. That's when an ICE officer
opened fire and killed the woman. No ICE agents, thankfully
were seriously hurt. And the full DHS statement on the
Minneapolis shooting goes into this an ICE officer, fearing for
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his life in the lives of his fellow law enforcement
and the safety of the public, fired defensive shots. He
used his training, saved his own life and that of
his fellow officers. The alleged perpetrator was hit and is deceased.
The ICE officers who were hurt or expected to make
full recoveries. This is a direct consequence of constant attacks
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and demonization of our officers by sanctuary politicians who fuel
and encourage rampant assaults on our law enforcement officials. And
by the way, there's a thirteen hundred percent increase in
assaults against them and an eight thousand increase in death threats.
And of course we've seen doxing, and we have seen
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threats against ICE agents now rising. And then it gets worse.
You have this idiot, Minneapolis mayor Jacob Frye, telling ICE
agents to get the earth.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Out of Minneapolis.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Well, somebody explained to this moron what the supremacy clause
of the Constitution means. In other words, the jurisdiction to
enforce federal laws lies with the federal government, not idiots
like him. And it's this type of incendiary rhetoric that
results in the hostility towards ICE officials. Remember, you know,
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they have an entire application, an app set up to
warn people of pending ICE action. What does that do well?
That puts ICE agents lives in jeopardy. It eliminates the
element of surprise that law enforcement counts on, depends on
to effectively enforce the laws of the land. They don't
like the laws of the land, they should go and
(17:11):
fight to try to change them. But they are enforcing
the laws of the land. You know, not one of
these mayors, not one of these politicians, ever raised their
voice when we were being lied to as twelve million
plus illegals entered our country, including known terrorists and cartel
members and gang members and murderers and rapists and other
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violent criminals.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Not one of them ever. You know.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
They wouldn't even stand for Lake and Riley's family during
a session a joint session speech by President Trump. They
wouldn't stand for Joscelyn Nungary's family. They wouldn't even stand
for a young man who had defeated cancer that became
a Secret Service agent.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
They wouldn't do any of that.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
I mean, they care more about what the rights of
illegals over the safety and security the American peace. Here's
this idiot mayor of Minneapolis. He should be impeached, and frankly,
he's aiding in a betting, in the law breaking. At
some point we've got to look at if you are
a sanctuary city or state, whether or not that is
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in and of itself aiding in a betting law breaking.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Here's this idiot mayor.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
There's little I can say again that'll make this situation better,
But I do have a message for our community, for
a city, and I have a message for ICE two. Ice,
get the fuck out of Minneapolis.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
We do not want you here. Your stated reason for
being in this city is to create some kind of safety,
and you are doing exactly the opposite. People are being hurt,
Families are being ripped apart. Long term Minneapolis residents that
have contributed so greatly to our city, to our culture,
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to our economy are being terrorized, and now somebody is dead.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
It's just the opposite of what he's saying, because what
he is doing is inciting people to be hostile towards
ICE agents whose only fault is enforcing the laws of
our country. We're talking about people, you know, again, they
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never mentioned the families, the victims, the Jostle Nungarys, the
Rachel Morins, the Lake and Rileyes, and the hundreds and
thousands of people that have been victims of murder and
rape and kidnapping and torture and other violent crimes. They
don't mention the drug cartels. They don't mention the known
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terrorists in this country. No, they only want to go
against law enforcement because they don't like the laws of
the land and they want to go back to the
Biden Harris years of open borders. What he is doing
is putting this rhetoric, is putting ICE officers' lives in
and that's why you see this dramatic increase in incidents
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and threats against ICE agents. I mean, it's really that simple.
All right, Let's get to our busy phones. Let's go
to Minnesota. Let's say hi to Marry You know, how
could you elect this idiot mayor, this dope of a
governor that you have. It's it's unfathomable to me.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
Hi Son, Well, first, I would like to apologize for
Jacob small Fries, dirty potty mouse. How an embarrassment, What
an embarrassment he is to me as a lifetime Minnesotan.
He is disgusting. You can call him small fries Shawan,
or you can call him fry baby. I don't care.
(20:45):
But I just would like to say, he I believe
you just quoted him as saying, or he maybe I
heard it myself, that they are committing terrorism. I would
like to say, what about the terrorism? As a Minnesota
res I live one mile west of the Minneapolis border,
I would like to say, what about the tax fraud
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terrorism against Minnesota residents? Like I'm not a math genius shown,
but eight billion dollars, which most of the small business
owners that I talked.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
To eight billion and going higher by the day, were
We're just at the tip of the iceberger finding out
how deep this fraud.
Speaker 6 (21:24):
Is gone exactly. I just had a business, small business
owner tell me it's probably at least double that some
Minnesotans aren't dumb, and the small people like me and
the business owners I talked to, they are so fed up.
And I would like to say, eight billion dollars in
tax fraud in Minnesota sean to me not a math genius,
(21:46):
but that means that every single frickin penny they have
taken from me if I found that I am everything.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
They haven't taken from you. They've stolen from you.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
They didn't need any of it. Sean. If they get
a billion away to fraudsters, they didn't need my tax dollars.
And you know how hard it is fear taxes out here.
They've taken thousands from me. I'm sick of it. I'm
sick of it. And the small business owners I've talked
to out here are sick of it too. And I
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just talked to one a couple of minutes ago, and
they know about they pay attention, and they know about
this ICE agent that this woman tried to run over,
and I'm sorry she put herself in harm's way. In fact,
didn't they designate these people that are attacking ICE agents?
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Aren't they considered domestic terrorist? Sehn?
Speaker 1 (22:43):
I would argue, yes, okay, I would argue this an
attack on law enforcement. I mean trying to drive your
car and kill law enforcement. Sorry, they have every right, duty,
obligation to defend themselves and in this case, that is
clear what happened.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
Yes, And I would like to say, Sean, for the
small business owners I talked to every day, I would
say a month ago, people were still telling me they
thought Walls would get reelected. You have to realize Minnesotans
are very cynical, and with all the fraud they're finding
coming out in the open, you can see why. But
I would say then two weeks ago or so, when
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Nick Shirley exposed all these daycares, I started hearing from
Minnesota business owners. Oh, my brother in law, who's far
loved says he's he voted for Wallas before, but now
he's not going to vote for him with all this fraud.
And now what I'm hearing is obviously he's dropped out
of the race. But I would like to say Minnesotans
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I think are cautiously hopeful. At least the business owners
that I talked to are cautiously hopeful. They're still pretty
cynical because Minnesota. But I think we have a chance.
This my opinion, I think we have as I think
the Democrats are going down in Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Sean, I don't let me tell you.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
That you have a chance at a US Senate seat
this year and a chance at the new governor this year. Yeah,
And I'll tell you this, if the people in Minnesota
don't wake up and don't get rid of people like
Ellison and Walls and you know, you know, fry Baby
and the rest of them, then your state is gone.
You might as well pack your bags, come to Florida,
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go to Texas, go to Tennessee, go to the Carolinas.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Because there's no hope for your state.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
It's sort of like you know, I talked about this
with O'Reilly earlier today. I mean, you've got this tenant overseer,
if you can believe it, a New York tenant advocate
who's literally calling for the seizure of private property, you know,
making pronouncements that it's important that white people feel defeated,
and who said I want to impoverish the white middle class.
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I mean, you can't help a city that votes for
something like that.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
You just can't.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
Well, I think we, I think we have a chance
out here because Sewan, guess what, you can't do anything
about what's going wrong till you know, and what's happening
right now, Sean is all coming out in the open.
It's all the dirt is coming out. And you know what,
no matter which side of the political spectrum you're on
(25:20):
in Minnesota, and I will say most of the small
business owners are common sense conservatives. But no matter which
side you're on, when you hear eight billion in fraud.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Sean, this is your chance in see Mary in Minnesota.
Tell everybody you know, seize the moment, get rid of
them all, vote them out. I've got to move on.
I'm praying for the people of Minnesota that they wise
up surely my free state of Florida.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Hey, Shirley, how are you?
Speaker 7 (25:49):
Hi?
Speaker 2 (25:49):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (25:51):
I'm good, glad you called?
Speaker 7 (25:53):
Oh me too? Okay. My question is what is the
deal with the seizing of the proper property. I just
don't understand the legalities of that. I listen to this
stuff and I've been working for thirty five years. I
do hair, and it's an accomplishment. This is the American dream.
It makes you feel so good when you have something
that is truly yours. And what I think about I
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think about my parents' age. My parents are gone, but
people that age and that are older, this is frightening.
And they can't say things that are impossible to do,
but people believe it. So I'm wondering, what are the
legalities of this idiocy?
Speaker 1 (26:30):
They don't have the right to do it, Number one,
But what have I been saying. And you're going to
hear this a lot from me this year, and for
all of you that are going to accuse me of
being repetitive, I plead guilty. This is the single most
important midterm election in our lifetime because the radicals have
taken over the Democratic Party, the Tim Walls, the Keith Ellison's,
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the Jacob Fries, the Mom Donnie's, the AOC's, the squad
Grandpa Bernie Pocahontas. And if you don't go out and
vote this coming November and vote in droves, make it
the most important election in your lifetime, these people will
then get back in power. They will want to destroy
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Donald Trump everybody around him, and all progress will stop.
I want everyone to pledge to themselves today that they're
going to vote in November. It's not That's all I need.
I'm not asking for anything else, is that everybody be
determined to show up in massive numbers all across the country,
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and we have to overcome historical trends to win this midterm.
We can do it. Don't let anybody tell you we can't.
I've got a roll. I do appreciate your call. Thanks
for listening, Thanks for being out there.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
Right.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
That's gonna wrap things up for today.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
A great Hannity tonight, nine Eastern on the Fox News Channel.
The radicalized rhetoric, dangerous rhetoric of the left in light
of what has happened in Minnesota. Today, we will chronicle
all of it. These sanctuary city mayors and state mayors
and state governors, they are causing havoc and danger. Anyway,
(28:14):
todd Lyons will have a list of reporters, Jonathan Turley.
On the legal aspect, we have citizen journalist Nick Shirley tonight,
also Ron De Santis, James Comer, Riley Gaines, Clay Travis Nineties,
Turns s ADVR Hannity on Fox Sea. Then back here tomorrow.
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