October 25, 2022 • 42 mins
Big Ben talks about the Patriots getting routed by the Chicago Bears and a potential QB controversy that will ensue, the investigation into two NFL officials seeking an autograph from Mike Evans, Maller to the Third Degree, Maller's Mountain of Money: Drake Edition, and more!
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Another night is upon us here and our lead this
hour coming from the big Monday night football game in Foxborough.
It was the Caboose, the Caboose springing up the rear
there for the NFL Week seven card. The final game
in Week seven a bruhaha, which seemed like an epic mismatch.
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You had Justin Fields and the hibernating Bears taking on
the Patriots win their last couple of games in this game,
marking the return of mcdaddy mc jones keeping up with
the Joneses if you didn't see the gaming at the
starting job back from Bailey's Appy. More on that in
a second. New England a nine point favorite most of
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the week, because some as high as nine and a half,
some as low as eight and a half. But it
was a big line as the gambling market said, Hey,
the Patriots are the sign here. Bill Belichick's got it
all figured out. The Patriots are the way to go,
and a bunch of people thought it was free money.
The Bears blow and the Patriots were playing well the
last couple of games, so what could possibly go wrong?
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And then they played the game, and then they played
the game and we watched so you would not have
to watch in case you did not watch. And midway
through the second quarter, the Patriots had scored back to
back touchdowns. They had a fourteen to ten lead, and
then they had to play the rest of the game,
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and the Chicago Bears scored twenty three unanswered points. The
Bears dub Bears. You gotta be joke, justin fields, combining
for two hundred and sixty one total yards of offense,
two touchdowns, a running touchdown, and a throwing touchdown, and
the Bears not only upset the Patriots, they punched them
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in the gut, tossed the atomic elbow on top of
them thirty three fourteen, the stunner on a misty Foxborough night,
just a few days away from Halloween next weekend. And
the better story, though, is in the losing locker rooms.
So we're not gonna sit here in wax poetic about
the Bears. We go where the story is, and the
story is the New England Patriots and the quarterback shuffle,
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not the Super Bowl Shuffle, the quarterback shuffle as mac
Jones started, but Bailey's Appy ended up coming in. So
the question here what went wrong for the Patriots, and
I've got my observations. We'll have you chime in a minute,
but my observations are Southwest Airlines, bread and Butter, and
Earl Anthony, and we will combine all of these things together,
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and we are going to make a gloomy stew is
what we're going to make, all right. So a from
the Patriots. I know I did have the Bears in
the game, but I thought I was gonna get a
backdoor cover. I did not when I handicap the game,
did not anticipate, did not have the foresight to think
there was any possible scenario where the Chicago Bears put
a thirty three spot. I mean could have had forty
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against that. Patriots defense did not see that one. But
everything game unglued come apart of the scenes, it was
like watching the Hindenburg Kaboom kaboom, kaboom kaboom, the best
laid plans of mice men and television executives. The game
was set up perfectly. Bill Belichick shows up, collects an
easy win, passes Papa Bear. George hallis in the record
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books a made for television moment. But then they had
to play the game, and any way you do the arithmetic.
This was a fee asco in Foxborough. They were the
in like the Lion and out like the lamb. It's
the old marketing campaign from Southwest Airlines. You'll want to
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get away, and that was a want to get away situation.
Bill Belichick setting the tone. He didn't play in the
game to my knowledge, but he set the tone there
by starting mac Jones rather than just continuing on with
Bailey's Appy until the wheels fall off and mac Jones
did a pratfall. He was garbage. Now there's a lot
of mac Jones defenders out there. I wasn't for He sucked.
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He was terrible. He played at the beginning of the
game and he was he was wobbling. He averaged two
point two yards per pass attempt in the beginning of
the game, and he was so bad the Patriot coaching
staff so we gotta get this guy off the field.
And so after that pratfall, the Patriots then they went
to Bailey's Appy. They had a couple of touchdowns and
they were like, okay, we're cooking. But it turns out
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there they ran out of gas and it was a
gas gas oven and that was it. The Patriots missed
multiple tackles, failed to get a grasp of Justin Fields
when they had him contained, either for no gain or
a loss. And then New England when they pulled mac Jones,
they went to Bailey's appeyes we mentioned here, only to
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eventually continue the degradation. The Patriot offense could only muster
two hundred and sixty yards and twelve first downs against
a middling Bears defense. Chicago without a name brand defensive
player overachieving this season, they no name defense for the
most part. The Bears statistically coming in the game ranked twelfth,
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they were fifteenth in total defense around in the middle
in total defense, But on this night they played like
a top five defensive unit. Or was it more the
incompetence of New England? All right, now, page two here,
you gotta look for a second on the Chicago side
of things, and there's a lot of slava slava slabar
over the Bears quarterback. So the question has to be asked,
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has Chicago's quarterback Justin Fields turned the corner? And I'm
not ready to go that far. It's only one game.
It's only one game. The inconsistency of the throws were
still there it's a pimple on an elephant's keyster. But
Fields was not drowning in this game. And I did
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see some comments. You probably saw these two if you
were paying attention at all throughout the day. On Monday,
the brass out of Chicago up selling Justin Fields. Ryan Pulls,
the GM in the Windy City had said prior to
the game that the team was quote encouraged with the
progress that is there. And then the quote, which I
laughed at. I had a hearty guffaw. I hope you
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did too. The GM of the Bears went on to say,
it's not on the statistics on the paper he said
all the time talking about Justin Fields stats, but he
is getting better in a lot of different areas. Now
that right there is Fooey. That quote is absolute for
It reminds me of when I used to cover the
NBA lot and there'd be first round picks who had
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nothing in the box score, and coaches would point out.
There was one in particular, when I was around the
Lakers line, there was this old coach named Del Harris.
You probably don't even know who that is, but Del
Harris used to always say, you know, he does things
that don't show up in the box score. And I said,
what exactly? I said, Dell, what doesn't show up in
the delmore? What doesn't show up in the box They
got points, they got rebounds, they got assists, they've got turnover, Like,
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what exactly he's missing from the box score? That's not
And when I hear coaches say that, I just laugh.
I flash back to that chapter in my life. It's
absolute nonsense. There's a stat for everything. Box scores tell
the bread and butter of a story. You don't don't
be hornswoggled here. There has been nothing tangible to hang
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your hat on with Justin Fields until Monday. Because there
was a little movement there. The needle moved a little bit,
a little bit, but his overall stats in this game,
we're not even jaw dropping. It looked good because the
Patriots were so bad. Patriots coming in and had the
seventh ranked defense scoring defense in the NFL, were allowing
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eighteen point eight points per game. The Bears scored almost
double that in New England, thirteenth ranked total defense, and
Justin Fields able to navigate the Chicago offense for twenty
four first downs and three hundred ninety total yards the Bears.
The big killer for the Patriots and the big advantage
for the Bears on third down sixty one percent eleven
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of eighteen on third down. It was death by a
thousand paper cuts. And Chicago did it like the Navy,
by land, by air, by sea, covering all the bases
and justin fields. Again, the numbers passing were not wonderfully
did average eight and a half yards were passed, but
less than two hundred yards passing, one touchdown, one rushing touchdown,
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and a very blah passer rating of eighty five point two.
The running was nice, but he also fumbled the ball
four times, didn't lose any of them, and was sacked
four times. So Chicago now will see if they can
stack another good game back to back good games. The
Bears are three and four. They have the same record
as the Patriots. Bears play after a quick turnaround, they
go to Dallas at Cowboy Defense. A weekend in Jerry's world.
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All right, last word here, So let's go back to
New England and how do the Patriots pick up the
old pieces here from the debacle? And what a royal
debacle this was Bill Belichick. He pulled an earl Anthony.
You might not even know who Earl Anthony is, but
the square Earl a right the bowler, and Bill Belichick
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was able to bowl a strike and knock down all
of the quarterback pins in one move. One bowling ball
down the middle of the lane. He knocked all the
pins down. He showed no faith in Bailey's appy by
benching him from Mac Jones, then undermined mac Jones by
pulling him after a bad beginning of the game. You
talk about hitting the daily double. Bill Belichick created this
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mess like you play Zappy the movie. You know, what
do I know? I do an overnight show. But here's
what I would have done. I would have started a
Zappy and then when ZAPPI plays poorly, you bring Mac
Jones in. That would have seemed to make more sense.
But what'll I know. Belichick's the Hall of Famers, about
to be the second all time winning as coach in
NFL history, and now the Patriots have to dust off
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the debris and get back on the horse. Here no
time for the old pitty party there. I guess I'll
just put it nicely and pass on the opportunity to
get involved in talk radio. That's a lie. Belichick makes
more money than I make doing this show three hundred
and sixty five days a year, calling in No, seriously,
I know I used to work at that station. He
calls into a local Boston radio station, not the one
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we're on, not the good one, but the one I
used to work at. And Belichick makes more for a
ten minute phone call every usually it's Monday morning, than
I make doing a five night a week syndicated radio
show on over five hundred radio stations. I just want
to point that out, not that I'm better, not that
I'm better, Okay, not that I'm better. So no pity party, cupcakes.
Bailey's Appy should be the guy this week. He probably
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will not be the guy. The Patriots have a key
AFC East game against the Jets. No longer suck suck
suck in Jersey. The Jets are actually good. What happened?
They played Gang Green twice in the next three weeks,
sandwiched around the Colts. More on them later. They benched
Matt Ryan New England, same record as the Bears, as
we mentioned, and their defense that had been so good
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was that more the opposition than the Patriots actually having
good defense. But that was a dollar General defense. That
was a dollar store defense that showed up. They could
not stop a nosebleed with that defense and a lot
of whips. And that's not necessarily coaching because there were
guys in position to make plays. It reminds me of
the Rams. The Rams do that a lot, where they
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have guys right on the ball carrier and they let
them go and go right past. Let's hear from Bill Belichick. Here.
Here's Belichick here the question and the answer, and there
was some debate. Some of the Patriot players in the
locker room claimed that they were unaware that both quarterbacks
were going to play, although it appeared Joe backnew on
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the television broadcast because he said as much. Anyway, here
is Belichick asked about that, at what point in the
week did these guys know at the beginning of the
week that this was the plan all week long? Or like,
how did it work out with reps at practice? We
went through the week, so they were aware the situation
that they were going to split reps. We went through
the week of practice. Michael's an active last week. Let's
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get it know his inner a holes coming out, all right.
Here's more from Belichick and the question about you know
that old line. If you have two left fielders, you
really have none. If you have two quarterbacks, you probably
have not. Anyway, here's Belichick on the platoon situation. Do
you see a situation where you might go one quarterback
one week and one the next and have kind of
a platoon situation or are you going to start one
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quarterback each week? Yeah? No, I don't see that. I
love it, love it, love it. All right. Here's the
Bailey Zappy Zap zap Zap Zap zap zapped. Bailey Zappy
did not play well at the end of this game.
Played well for a couple of drives and then that
was it. And you'll hear the question and the answer,
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and again it's all about the quarterback plan. Bill Belichick
told ESPN that it was the plan all along for
both quarterbacks to play. Did you know that both quarterbacks
were gonna play tonight? You know how prepare? Like? I was, like,
I have a really week and if that decision was
made for me to go in and I wasn't going
out there, and you know, do the best of my team,
all right. Another lifeless Patriot player interview, Always good. Bell
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Belichick's master man. He must bring these guys in and
do like what do you think there's like meditation? You
think he brainwashes them. They're all robots and then they
leave and occasionally they're just talking up the you know what.
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So I leave this hour coming from the Gridiron. We'll
get back to the Patriots Bears game Chicago, taking a
can a whoopass to the team in New England, and
that is a surprising outcome, to say the least. The
point spread heavily in favor of the Patriots and the
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Bill Belichick. Patriots had been sixteen and all at home
in Week seven or later against teams with two or
fewer wins entering the game, So they had feasted on
the cupcakes and they choked on one in the game
Monday night. But our lead this hour coming from a
game that was played on Sunday, we got to circle
back to a story that we talked about in a
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previous episode of the show. If you're paying attention, you
know this involves the officials in Charlotte, North Carolina, getting
an autograph from Mike Evans, the buccaneer wide receiver, as
he was walking off the field. This story has legs,
It's got legs. It is the scandal Djore in the NFL.
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We love a good scanal. It's a nice, juicy scandal.
So if you didn't recall exactly what happened, let me
give you the brief thumbnail recap. So the Panthers had
just upset the Cream Circles, which in itself is another
one of those surprising outcomes. I would say that is
even more surprising Carolina beating the Buccaneers than the Bears
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beating the Patriots, considering who was playing quarterback for Caroline,
and also the fact the game was not even close.
The Panthers were winning that game from beginning to end.
They never trailed in the game. They were up twenty won.
Twenty one to three was the final score with an
XFL quarterback, he was fourteen nothing, fourteen three and then
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twenty one three was the final scoring that game. So anyway,
the game ended and Mike Evans is walking back with
a group of players and team personnel from Tampa. He
gets inside the tunnel and just underneath the tunnel a
pair of officials, one of them circling back, the other
one coming from behind there to get ahold of the
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Buck receiver and asking him and then receiving his John
Hancock And you know about that now, But you're about
to hear the rest of the story. We have learned
the NFL has opened, yes, an investigation. The NFL is
reviewing the video that appears to show the two officials
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asking Mike Evans to sign on the dotted line after
the chase down the referees have been named. It is
side judge Jeff Lamberth and line judge Trip Sutter talk
about tripping. Those are the two. I don't know who
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either one of those guys. Do you have your NFL
official Bengo card? No, you do not, Okay, think about that.
These guys are NFL officials. We have no idea who
the f they are, right. They could be right. They
could be at a bar, like a couple of seats
down having a shot. I don't know who that is.
And if they told you, hey, I'm an NFL official,
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they yeah, right, kime On, you know who are you?
We don't know who you are? All right? So let
us discuss the question what is the NFL going to
do with the two autograph hound officials that track down
Mike Evans. So I've got blubber bird and bees and
a cloak and dagger, and we will combine all of
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these things together, and we are going to be out
on the serengetti hunting down zebras is what we're going
to be doing, all right. So number one, the NFL
has no choice. They gotta kick these guys to the curb.
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If I'm running the NFL I say, you know what, boys,
thank you very much. I hope you enjoy your next job,
whatever that might be. These guys all have other jobs anyway.
There has to be a zero tolerance policy for this
kind of thing, no ifs ands or butts about it.
And we were trying to figure out on the show
the other night if there was more to the story.
What were we missing. Is it possible that the officials
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need the team captains to sign a piece of paper
after the game or something like that, But there was
nothing there. There was nothing there that came to our
mind anyway, And after a minute's long investigation, we determined
that these two guys are Bozo's and they need to
go down to the Haberdash Ray and get fitted for
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Dunce caps. They need to wear the Dunce caps. This
is a blemish on the NFL, and it really is
tossing blubber into a polar bearcage for those who believe
the league is choreographing the outcome of games, manufacturing drama.
And I get several of these emails throughout the course
of the year saying that this is all scripted reality.
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I have friends of mine that work in the media
that are convinced that this whole thing is all It's
like a Broadway show. It's all planned out. And there
were stories about that going back to the earliest when
I started in the media business and some of the
long time scribes that I used to hang out with
it would tell me stories about this guy named Pete Roselle.
You probably don't even know who Pete Roselle is, but
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Pete Roselle used to be It's an LA guy. I
started in the media in LA after my sojourn in
San Diego. But anyway, they they're telling me stories about
Pete used to work for the Rams. He had ties
to the Rams, and they the NFL would get together
before the season. They'd kind of map out what the
top stories were for the season and this is what
they needed to have happened for ratings purposes and all that.
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And some of these guys, these were seasoned writers who
were convinced that this was going on. So when you
see a story where the officials are getting autographs, it's
like when I was a kid, I went to a
w w F. It was called WWF, not ww I
went to an event and I waited because I was
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a big wrestling fan a long time ago as I'm
old and I was waiting for the wrestlers, and I
was a huge Gene mean gene Oakerland fan, and he
was the ring announcer. He wore the tuxis bald bald guy.
Now I look like me and Gene. But but anyway,
I'm not a little bigger. So anyway, me and Jean
was there and he walked out. He had a jumpsuit
on and he was walking out and it was like
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he was with like the Junkyard Dog. They were like buddies,
you know, and they're walking. I'm like, wait a minute, yeah,
you know, you guys are supposed to be buddies, really
ringing out, So you can't hang out with those guys?
What's up with that? You know? I was like that
really was a shocking thing. It Yeah, I was slip
into a slim gym. It ruined my whole thing there.
I was like, wait a minute, man, this is not right.
You broke the fourth wall. You can't break the fourth wall,
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the k fab you can't do it no anyway. So
the NFL's got a problem on their hands, and how
can officials be unbiased when calling penalties? Against Mike Evans.
If they're holding a sharpie asking for his autograph, it's
it's a hard, hard way to go. And by the way,
isn't a photo much cooler than an autograph? Like autograph
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used to be a big deal, but isn't it much cool? Ahead,
let me take a photo and I'll get a nice
photo op and then I can put that up on
the wall. Would I'd rather have it? I don't know
who you like, who your favorite athlete is or person
in life, but I would rather have a photo with
someone that has Joe Montana for a photo. He won't
give you one, that's right. Yeah, there's the great Joe
Montana story that Joe's become an a hole, that he's
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a grumpy old man, Joe Montana, and unless he's getting yeah,
I bet you if Montana got paid, he would have
signed the autograph though, if he had like a little
money there. But you know, I don't know, Maybe maybe
Joe is just having a bad day. Who knows, all
right now? Page two, Page two Here, how often does
this kind of official incident with the player over a
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signature happen? So my answer is likely gonna surprise you.
I would suspect far more often than we know about
and far more often than the NFL should should admit
or will admit. And they're comfortable admitting. And I'll tell
you why. Birds and the bees, Birds and the bees,
human hatred. You figure a handful of these guys just
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think that they there's a part time job. Most of
these officials part time job. These are fathers, grandfathers, uncles,
and they're, hey, come on, I'll get an autograph. What's
the big deal. My niece, my nephew wants one. My
grandkids a big fan of Mike Evans. I'll get them
an autograph. Now, others are in it for their own
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personal gain because they're collectors of memory, will be. But
any way you slice it, it's it's not a good look.
And in any business, I do believe this to be true,
there is a certain percentage of people that break the
rules and are just bad, bad to the bone bad.
You know what they do, they're bad apples. Every job
has it. It's within the margin of error. Like there's
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bad cops, there's bad doctors. There's bad teachers. There's bad preachers,
bad talk show host there's just in any business, there's
within the margin of error. There's a certain miscentae of people.
They're just dumb asses, and that's the way that it is.
And not everyone follows the rules. There's some people that
have a very liberal interpretation of what rules they want
to follow and whatnot. Like that. All right, final point,
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So what advice do we have as a show? What
advice do we have for future memor Hawk officials? Those
that collective memorable So you might not notice, but when
I was in high school, make a little extra scratch
on the side, I was an autograph hound and I
would follow players around after games to get autographs I had.
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I was the middle person, and I would Then I
had somebody that had paid me to get the autographs.
They then resold them for a lot more money than
I was getting. But I got paid to hang out
and follow people around and get autographs and hang out
at stadiums. So I made okay money at that I
am mostly gas money. I got to go to games
and stuff like that. It was a lot of fun
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and it was a long time ago, and that's how
I did it. But my advice here is to in
many ways follow the advice of Vince Lombardi. Act like
you've been there before, meaning you shouldn't do it. But
if you're gonna do it right, I mean everyone everyone's
you know, kind of off the beaten path here. They
do their own thing. But if you're gonna do it
all right, you can't do it in uniform walking off
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the field. You have to have proper decorum. There are
ways you can pull this off. That is not how
to pull this off. Okay, that what you did is
you're you're a maron. You cannot do that. You got
to handle your business. Now. I was around baseball a lot,
and I have heard stories some people in that sport.
Somebody know for a fact that there are umpires that
would get autographs. Do you imagine a homeplate umpire getting
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like Randy Johnson's autograph or Pedro Martinez. But they weren't,
but you know, they were memorable, your collectors. But what
they would do is they do it through back channels,
cloak and dagger style, and you don't make it obvious,
out of sight, out of mind, and the umpires would
go through liaisons the umpire room. Liaison would then go
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to whatever locker room and would say, hey, so and
so wants an autograph for their kid, and then the
players would sign the autograph and then it would come
back as contraband and the umpire would then get it.
And so that's not sloppy. Nobody really knows about it
other than the person that's that's running the item over
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to get autographed. But posing in the tunnel in uniform,
Mike Evans in uniform while you're surrounded by everyone's got
a camera. Everyone's an amateur journalist from TMZ. Then all
they all they need is the video and they can
sell at the Harvey Levin for a few thousand dollars. Like,
what's going on with that? My man? It's a bad
job by you, bad, bad, bad, bad bad. All right,
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it is the band Maller show. Speaking of bad? How
about that Patriots? Wow? Uh? Is it more the Chicago
Bears good or the Patriots bad? I would say the
Patriots bad. As you talk about free falling free falling, yeah,
and we mentioned it last hour in the Mallar monologue,
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but the Patriots managing to completely botch Bill Belichick and
his underlings completely botch the Patriot quarterback situation. Dazed and
confused would be the way to describe what the Patriots
are doing with the quarterback position. I mean, wait, man, right,
I'm glad they get paid a lot of money to
figure this out. I'm sure everything will be fine and
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there's nothing to see here. Blah blah blah blah blah.
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the third degree? This is one big band gets guiled
and he's back. The Kobaloo Chief's wide receiver Juju Smith
Schuster says that playing Call of Duty war Zone with
Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelsey and Marquez Valdez Scantling was the
difference in their win over the forty nine ers. Ben,
how much stock do you put into this? That would
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be zero? No stock. The Chiefs one because they played
better than the forty nineers. It wasn't because of a
video game. Wasn't because it call of duty. It's just
a way for Juju to promote Juju Smith Schuster And
if there was a correlation between video game play and
team success, the Arizona Cardinals would win the Super Bowl
because their quarterback is the og of the video games.
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He spends more time playing video games and watching film.
Now next, after beating the Chargers thirty eight to ten,
Trevor Lawrence stated, you cannot deny we are a really
good football team. Jaguars have been owing for since. Has
Trevor Lawrence put the jinks on the Jags? No, No,
he is not. I do not believe in that. We
don't believe that there's any whammy placed on Jacksonville. I'm
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not buying that. You play well, you win, you play
like garbage, you lose, Lawrence the last few games, three touchdowns,
three interceptions the last four weeks. That's deplorable quarterback play.
The Jags have had leads against Philly, Indie and the Giants.
They've blown leads in all three of those games. That's
not a Jinks that's a bad team, man, a bad
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fing team. Next, coach Darvinham asked how Russell westbrook would
handle being benched Laton games. He said, don't have time
for the Lakers. Don't have time for people to be
in their feelings. Ben, what do you make of darvenham
statement of Lostbrooks. I loved it. I thought it was great.
It's a result space business and Westbrooks got a sourpus
over there. You're shooting twenty eight percent to begin the year.
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And my favorite part is they leave him wide open
and beg him to shoot, and he still shoots like
he's so obtuseed. Every team does the same thing and Ross, well,
I'm wide open, I better shoot. Ross. You can't make
it outside shot? All right? There? It is Mallard, the
third of you. How do we do that? I want
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any meany? Oh boy? We got some big heavy hitters here,
man legends, legends ready to go. There's only two slots
(32:07):
on the game, and got some big time people that
would like the black. I see four legends on the
board here, but only two can play. We've got an
international call. We've got two ringers and a game show
whoreor any preference eddie on who? We have played the
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game only that if you pick a ringer, you pick
a fellow ringer to take them on. H Well, you
could argue that three of these people are are ringers,
so then we'd we'd eliminate the international line. Guy. Hold on,
let me check in. Hey, Dave, Dave, you're in Israel, right, Dave?
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That's correct? How's it going by? How's everything in Israel?
The midtime the mid afternoon drive show of here is
doing great? Yeah, So you don't consider yourself a ringer,
right Dave? Not really? But I would love to play though.
You want to play, right, But Eddie doesn't want you
to play because everyone else is a ringer. So if
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we let you play, he feels like it would be
a big mismatch. What do you say to Eddie? I
have connections with that marine guy before. I don't know
if he wants to mess with him? Yeah? Would you would? You?
Would you want to play with Bennon? Oh Eddie, don't
do that? Oh yeah, all right, there you go, Eddie.
How about that? Yeah, I'll play with him. Okay, all right,
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that's the matchup. All right, very good? All right, So
I've never lost playing with a guy from Israel. In fact,
I got Dory one, Door two and door three. Roberto
pick a door three? Oh you picked Paul in Maine. Hello,
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Paul in Maine. Beneath get bass. Oh it's been many
months Paul since you've called the show. We're glad to
have you back. Yes, yes, my return is genuine. Are
you back in Maine? Are you somewhere else? No, No,
I'm in I'm back in Maine. Okay. You were out
in Arizona for a little bit. I know that, Yes,
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so I was. I was visiting family. Nice, very cool. Yeah,
all right, And Paul, would you like to partner up?
You got me Roberto and Coop. You know what, let's
welcome back Coop. Coop. I want I want you as
my partner. All right, let's do it, all right, very good.
The game today is the Drake edition of Maler's Amount
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of Money turned thirty six on Monday. So hold on
a sec. Let's make sure Dave is there. Dave are
you there? Dave? Ye? All right, very exciting. The categories
are shut it down, started from the bottom, God or
six God? And nice for what? And Dave, you want
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to pick the category there? Due to the fact I'm
an Israel Let's go to God. Wow. Yeah, you can't
go wrong with God. And of course you're studying that day.
That's your passion right now, you're studying, all right, very good,
Hold on a second, and Paul, you have shut it down,
started from the bottom and nice for what. Let's go
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let's start it from the bottom. Okay, very nice. Everyone,
Hold on a sec here, take care you don't go anywhere.
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We got Dave, he's spending a lot of money on
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We got Paul in Maine. That's those are the two
guys playing. Eddie's matched up with Dave, Paul is with Coop.
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rewards terms apply. We've got Dave who's listening to us
on the international line in Israel, spending a lot of
money to call in. And he is matched up with
Eddie paul Is in Maine and he is with Cooper Loop.
And here's some heavy breathings. So here we will go
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and Eddie, your category is six. God, that is the category.
These athletes all war number six. It is the Drake edition.
Will put forty five seconds on the clock. We need
the first and last name, and you guys are on
your way. Go the King for the Lakers. He won
titles with the Calves in the heat le bron Jame
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Heisman Trophy winning quarterback from Oklahoma. He started with the
Cleveland Now he's with Carolina. The Baker Mayfield Boston Celtics
legend he just passed away recently. All the teams, all
the players are wearing number six on their jersey this
year for him. Hall of Fame Old School Cardinals outfielder.
His nickname was the Man. Former Surly Bears and Broncos quarterback.
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He was married to Kristin Cavalery. J Cutler, Dodger's first
baseman in the seventies. He had giant forearms. He was
known as a ladies man, and he also played for
the Padres at the end of his career. Not bad
so before your time. But you did get all the
other ones. You didn't get one hundred point question. Didn't
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get to it. Burto's doing the math on that right now.
I think that's one hundred. Steve Garvey, Steve Garvey was
the Dodger first baseman, and the Garve never got to
w Walter Davis, which you never heard of Steve Garvey. Nope,
Oh you're a young guy. All right, Wow, all right,
well done, well dad, all right, and Paul is up
the machine. Which category did you pick? Paul started from
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the bottom. That's right, started from the bottom. And these
athletes made the Hall of Fame after going undrafted. We
are going to put forty five seconds on the clock.
We need the first and last name, and you and
Cooper on your way go. Grocer turned quarterback for the Rams.
Warner Uh former quarterback for the Houston Oilers and and
the CFL. Warren Moon yes Um center for the Detroit
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Pistons of the mid two thousands. He had a frow
yes Uh defensive tackle for the Vikings. He had like
really huge eye black John Randall, Yes, uh, former reliever
for the Cubs and Cardinals. He just died earlier this month. Uh.
Bruce Hoooter, Yeah, yes, um uh night train, old defensive
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player in the NFL. Yes, wow, um, old kicker MVP
for the Browns like in the forties. He had like
a yeah run the board there on the boards. I
don't know about that. Good word, Paul, Yeah, all right,
so that's the what is that? That's two alright, three forty.
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So we'll go back to Dave listening to us on
the international line in Israel. Dave's with Eddie. We have
shut it down and nice for what Dave? Which category
do you want? Let's go shut it down? All right,
shut it down. These athletes were all forced to retire
because of injury. You gotta shut it down. Forty five
seconds on the clock. You're on your way, go wide
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receiver for the Cowboys, the playmaker number eighty eight, Michael Chinese,
center for the Houston Rockets. Yeah. Uh. Two sport athlete, Uh,
the Royals outfielder and then yes, uh, if you get
this wrong, you're gonna be deported. Left handed picture for
the Dodgers who threw multiple no hitters. One Young Awards
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Jewish Fernando Venezuela no Trail Blazers guard out of the
University of Washington. He had to quit because of bad knees.
Path picture for the A's along with Barry Zero during
the Moneyball era. Uh. First and last name start with
the same letter. Um. All right, well at least you
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got you can stay in Israel. You do not have
to uh, and you will not be kicked out of
the Jewish. Well it's news to Fernando he is. But yeah,
well he's Mexican dog. All right, So you didn't get
enough to take the lead. Right, What was that was
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sixty about? Anyway, Paul, you want to just run it
out here, Paul Ken, we have a little time, alright, alright,
nice for what these athletes were all named MVP but
missed the playoffs. All time points leader in the NBA. Uh.
Kareem abdul Jabar, reigning n L m v P for
the Phillies. Uh. Harper, Yes, bills running back that murdered
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his wife. Yes. Uh. Former Colorado Rockies. Uh. Guy, he's
probably like their only MVP player. Um. Troy No before
before Troy Uh Matt Holiday. No, no, all right, oh
glory wa Yes, yes, the Golden Arm Baltimore Colts quarterback. Yes,
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uh former? Uh wow, I don't even nicknamed the Hawk.
He was an MVP for the Cubs. Grey Dawson. Yeah,
Taco for the Blue Jays. Out feel the name Taco.
You don't know the guy nicknamed Taco for the Blue Jays. No,
I don't really. You don't remember George Bell. George Taco. Yes,
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George Taco Bell. That was his nickname. Yeah, it was
the eighties. You could get away with it back
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Another night is upon us here and our lead this
hour coming from the big Monday night football game in Foxborough.
It was the Caboose, the Caboose springing up the rear
there for the NFL Week seven card. The final game
in Week seven a bruhaha, which seemed like an epic mismatch.
(01:46):
You had Justin Fields and the hibernating Bears taking on
the Patriots win their last couple of games in this game,
marking the return of mcdaddy mc jones keeping up with
the Joneses if you didn't see the gaming at the
starting job back from Bailey's Appy. More on that in
a second. New England a nine point favorite most of
(02:08):
the week, because some as high as nine and a half,
some as low as eight and a half. But it
was a big line as the gambling market said, Hey,
the Patriots are the sign here. Bill Belichick's got it
all figured out. The Patriots are the way to go,
and a bunch of people thought it was free money.
The Bears blow and the Patriots were playing well the
last couple of games, so what could possibly go wrong?
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And then they played the game, and then they played
the game and we watched so you would not have
to watch in case you did not watch. And midway
through the second quarter, the Patriots had scored back to
back touchdowns. They had a fourteen to ten lead, and
then they had to play the rest of the game,
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and the Chicago Bears scored twenty three unanswered points. The
Bears dub Bears. You gotta be joke, justin fields, combining
for two hundred and sixty one total yards of offense,
two touchdowns, a running touchdown, and a throwing touchdown, and
the Bears not only upset the Patriots, they punched them
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in the gut, tossed the atomic elbow on top of
them thirty three fourteen, the stunner on a misty Foxborough night,
just a few days away from Halloween next weekend. And
the better story, though, is in the losing locker rooms.
So we're not gonna sit here in wax poetic about
the Bears. We go where the story is, and the
story is the New England Patriots and the quarterback shuffle,
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not the Super Bowl Shuffle, the quarterback shuffle as mac
Jones started, but Bailey's Appy ended up coming in. So
the question here what went wrong for the Patriots, and
I've got my observations. We'll have you chime in a minute,
but my observations are Southwest Airlines, bread and Butter, and
Earl Anthony, and we will combine all of these things together,
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and we are going to make a gloomy stew is
what we're going to make, all right. So a from
the Patriots. I know I did have the Bears in
the game, but I thought I was gonna get a
backdoor cover. I did not when I handicap the game,
did not anticipate, did not have the foresight to think
there was any possible scenario where the Chicago Bears put
a thirty three spot. I mean could have had forty
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against that. Patriots defense did not see that one. But
everything game unglued come apart of the scenes, it was
like watching the Hindenburg Kaboom kaboom, kaboom kaboom, the best
laid plans of mice men and television executives. The game
was set up perfectly. Bill Belichick shows up, collects an
easy win, passes Papa Bear. George hallis in the record
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books a made for television moment. But then they had
to play the game, and any way you do the arithmetic.
This was a fee asco in Foxborough. They were the
in like the Lion and out like the lamb. It's
the old marketing campaign from Southwest Airlines. You'll want to
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get away, and that was a want to get away situation.
Bill Belichick setting the tone. He didn't play in the
game to my knowledge, but he set the tone there
by starting mac Jones rather than just continuing on with
Bailey's Appy until the wheels fall off and mac Jones
did a pratfall. He was garbage. Now there's a lot
of mac Jones defenders out there. I wasn't for He sucked.
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He was terrible. He played at the beginning of the
game and he was he was wobbling. He averaged two
point two yards per pass attempt in the beginning of
the game, and he was so bad the Patriot coaching
staff so we gotta get this guy off the field.
And so after that pratfall, the Patriots then they went
to Bailey's Appy. They had a couple of touchdowns and
they were like, okay, we're cooking. But it turns out
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there they ran out of gas and it was a
gas gas oven and that was it. The Patriots missed
multiple tackles, failed to get a grasp of Justin Fields
when they had him contained, either for no gain or
a loss. And then New England when they pulled mac Jones,
they went to Bailey's appeyes we mentioned here, only to
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eventually continue the degradation. The Patriot offense could only muster
two hundred and sixty yards and twelve first downs against
a middling Bears defense. Chicago without a name brand defensive
player overachieving this season, they no name defense for the
most part. The Bears statistically coming in the game ranked twelfth,
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they were fifteenth in total defense around in the middle
in total defense, But on this night they played like
a top five defensive unit. Or was it more the
incompetence of New England? All right, now, page two here,
you gotta look for a second on the Chicago side
of things, and there's a lot of slava slava slabar
over the Bears quarterback. So the question has to be asked,
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has Chicago's quarterback Justin Fields turned the corner? And I'm
not ready to go that far. It's only one game.
It's only one game. The inconsistency of the throws were
still there it's a pimple on an elephant's keyster. But
Fields was not drowning in this game. And I did
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see some comments. You probably saw these two if you
were paying attention at all throughout the day. On Monday,
the brass out of Chicago up selling Justin Fields. Ryan Pulls,
the GM in the Windy City had said prior to
the game that the team was quote encouraged with the
progress that is there. And then the quote, which I
laughed at. I had a hearty guffaw. I hope you
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did too. The GM of the Bears went on to say,
it's not on the statistics on the paper he said
all the time talking about Justin Fields stats, but he
is getting better in a lot of different areas. Now
that right there is Fooey. That quote is absolute for
It reminds me of when I used to cover the
NBA lot and there'd be first round picks who had
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nothing in the box score, and coaches would point out.
There was one in particular, when I was around the
Lakers line, there was this old coach named Del Harris.
You probably don't even know who that is, but Del
Harris used to always say, you know, he does things
that don't show up in the box score. And I said,
what exactly? I said, Dell, what doesn't show up in
the delmore? What doesn't show up in the box They
got points, they got rebounds, they got assists, they've got turnover, Like,
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what exactly he's missing from the box score? That's not
And when I hear coaches say that, I just laugh.
I flash back to that chapter in my life. It's
absolute nonsense. There's a stat for everything. Box scores tell
the bread and butter of a story. You don't don't
be hornswoggled here. There has been nothing tangible to hang
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your hat on with Justin Fields until Monday. Because there
was a little movement there. The needle moved a little bit,
a little bit, but his overall stats in this game,
we're not even jaw dropping. It looked good because the
Patriots were so bad. Patriots coming in and had the
seventh ranked defense scoring defense in the NFL, were allowing
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eighteen point eight points per game. The Bears scored almost
double that in New England, thirteenth ranked total defense, and
Justin Fields able to navigate the Chicago offense for twenty
four first downs and three hundred ninety total yards the Bears.
The big killer for the Patriots and the big advantage
for the Bears on third down sixty one percent eleven
(09:29):
of eighteen on third down. It was death by a
thousand paper cuts. And Chicago did it like the Navy,
by land, by air, by sea, covering all the bases
and justin fields. Again, the numbers passing were not wonderfully
did average eight and a half yards were passed, but
less than two hundred yards passing, one touchdown, one rushing touchdown,
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and a very blah passer rating of eighty five point two.
The running was nice, but he also fumbled the ball
four times, didn't lose any of them, and was sacked
four times. So Chicago now will see if they can
stack another good game back to back good games. The
Bears are three and four. They have the same record
as the Patriots. Bears play after a quick turnaround, they
go to Dallas at Cowboy Defense. A weekend in Jerry's world.
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All right, last word here, So let's go back to
New England and how do the Patriots pick up the
old pieces here from the debacle? And what a royal
debacle this was Bill Belichick. He pulled an earl Anthony.
You might not even know who Earl Anthony is, but
the square Earl a right the bowler, and Bill Belichick
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was able to bowl a strike and knock down all
of the quarterback pins in one move. One bowling ball
down the middle of the lane. He knocked all the
pins down. He showed no faith in Bailey's appy by
benching him from Mac Jones, then undermined mac Jones by
pulling him after a bad beginning of the game. You
talk about hitting the daily double. Bill Belichick created this
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mess like you play Zappy the movie. You know, what
do I know? I do an overnight show. But here's
what I would have done. I would have started a
Zappy and then when ZAPPI plays poorly, you bring Mac
Jones in. That would have seemed to make more sense.
But what'll I know. Belichick's the Hall of Famers, about
to be the second all time winning as coach in
NFL history, and now the Patriots have to dust off
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the debris and get back on the horse. Here no
time for the old pitty party there. I guess I'll
just put it nicely and pass on the opportunity to
get involved in talk radio. That's a lie. Belichick makes
more money than I make doing this show three hundred
and sixty five days a year, calling in No, seriously,
I know I used to work at that station. He
calls into a local Boston radio station, not the one
(11:43):
we're on, not the good one, but the one I
used to work at. And Belichick makes more for a
ten minute phone call every usually it's Monday morning, than
I make doing a five night a week syndicated radio
show on over five hundred radio stations. I just want
to point that out, not that I'm better, not that
I'm better, Okay, not that I'm better. So no pity party, cupcakes.
Bailey's Appy should be the guy this week. He probably
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will not be the guy. The Patriots have a key
AFC East game against the Jets. No longer suck suck
suck in Jersey. The Jets are actually good. What happened?
They played Gang Green twice in the next three weeks,
sandwiched around the Colts. More on them later. They benched
Matt Ryan New England, same record as the Bears, as
we mentioned, and their defense that had been so good
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was that more the opposition than the Patriots actually having
good defense. But that was a dollar General defense. That
was a dollar store defense that showed up. They could
not stop a nosebleed with that defense and a lot
of whips. And that's not necessarily coaching because there were
guys in position to make plays. It reminds me of
the Rams. The Rams do that a lot, where they
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have guys right on the ball carrier and they let
them go and go right past. Let's hear from Bill Belichick. Here.
Here's Belichick here the question and the answer, and there
was some debate. Some of the Patriot players in the
locker room claimed that they were unaware that both quarterbacks
were going to play, although it appeared Joe backnew on
(13:12):
the television broadcast because he said as much. Anyway, here
is Belichick asked about that, at what point in the
week did these guys know at the beginning of the
week that this was the plan all week long? Or like,
how did it work out with reps at practice? We
went through the week, so they were aware the situation
that they were going to split reps. We went through
the week of practice. Michael's an active last week. Let's
(13:35):
get it know his inner a holes coming out, all right.
Here's more from Belichick and the question about you know
that old line. If you have two left fielders, you
really have none. If you have two quarterbacks, you probably
have not. Anyway, here's Belichick on the platoon situation. Do
you see a situation where you might go one quarterback
one week and one the next and have kind of
a platoon situation or are you going to start one
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quarterback each week? Yeah? No, I don't see that. I
love it, love it, love it. All right. Here's the
Bailey Zappy Zap zap Zap Zap zap zapped. Bailey Zappy
did not play well at the end of this game.
Played well for a couple of drives and then that
was it. And you'll hear the question and the answer,
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and again it's all about the quarterback plan. Bill Belichick
told ESPN that it was the plan all along for
both quarterbacks to play. Did you know that both quarterbacks
were gonna play tonight? You know how prepare? Like? I was, like,
I have a really week and if that decision was
made for me to go in and I wasn't going
out there, and you know, do the best of my team,
all right. Another lifeless Patriot player interview, Always good. Bell
(14:39):
Belichick's master man. He must bring these guys in and
do like what do you think there's like meditation? You
think he brainwashes them. They're all robots and then they
leave and occasionally they're just talking up the you know what.
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So I leave this hour coming from the Gridiron. We'll
get back to the Patriots Bears game Chicago, taking a
can a whoopass to the team in New England, and
that is a surprising outcome, to say the least. The
point spread heavily in favor of the Patriots and the
(16:10):
Bill Belichick. Patriots had been sixteen and all at home
in Week seven or later against teams with two or
fewer wins entering the game, So they had feasted on
the cupcakes and they choked on one in the game
Monday night. But our lead this hour coming from a
game that was played on Sunday, we got to circle
back to a story that we talked about in a
(16:30):
previous episode of the show. If you're paying attention, you
know this involves the officials in Charlotte, North Carolina, getting
an autograph from Mike Evans, the buccaneer wide receiver, as
he was walking off the field. This story has legs,
It's got legs. It is the scandal Djore in the NFL.
(16:51):
We love a good scanal. It's a nice, juicy scandal.
So if you didn't recall exactly what happened, let me
give you the brief thumbnail recap. So the Panthers had
just upset the Cream Circles, which in itself is another
one of those surprising outcomes. I would say that is
even more surprising Carolina beating the Buccaneers than the Bears
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beating the Patriots, considering who was playing quarterback for Caroline,
and also the fact the game was not even close.
The Panthers were winning that game from beginning to end.
They never trailed in the game. They were up twenty won.
Twenty one to three was the final score with an
XFL quarterback, he was fourteen nothing, fourteen three and then
(17:34):
twenty one three was the final scoring that game. So anyway,
the game ended and Mike Evans is walking back with
a group of players and team personnel from Tampa. He
gets inside the tunnel and just underneath the tunnel a
pair of officials, one of them circling back, the other
one coming from behind there to get ahold of the
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Buck receiver and asking him and then receiving his John
Hancock And you know about that now, But you're about
to hear the rest of the story. We have learned
the NFL has opened, yes, an investigation. The NFL is
reviewing the video that appears to show the two officials
(18:15):
asking Mike Evans to sign on the dotted line after
the chase down the referees have been named. It is
side judge Jeff Lamberth and line judge Trip Sutter talk
about tripping. Those are the two. I don't know who
(18:37):
either one of those guys. Do you have your NFL
official Bengo card? No, you do not, Okay, think about that.
These guys are NFL officials. We have no idea who
the f they are, right. They could be right. They
could be at a bar, like a couple of seats
down having a shot. I don't know who that is.
And if they told you, hey, I'm an NFL official,
(18:58):
they yeah, right, kime On, you know who are you?
We don't know who you are? All right? So let
us discuss the question what is the NFL going to
do with the two autograph hound officials that track down
Mike Evans. So I've got blubber bird and bees and
a cloak and dagger, and we will combine all of
(19:19):
these things together, and we are going to be out
on the serengetti hunting down zebras is what we're going
to be doing, all right. So number one, the NFL
has no choice. They gotta kick these guys to the curb.
(19:40):
If I'm running the NFL I say, you know what, boys,
thank you very much. I hope you enjoy your next job,
whatever that might be. These guys all have other jobs anyway.
There has to be a zero tolerance policy for this
kind of thing, no ifs ands or butts about it.
And we were trying to figure out on the show
the other night if there was more to the story.
What were we missing. Is it possible that the officials
(20:03):
need the team captains to sign a piece of paper
after the game or something like that, But there was
nothing there. There was nothing there that came to our
mind anyway, And after a minute's long investigation, we determined
that these two guys are Bozo's and they need to
go down to the Haberdash Ray and get fitted for
(20:23):
Dunce caps. They need to wear the Dunce caps. This
is a blemish on the NFL, and it really is
tossing blubber into a polar bearcage for those who believe
the league is choreographing the outcome of games, manufacturing drama.
And I get several of these emails throughout the course
of the year saying that this is all scripted reality.
(20:45):
I have friends of mine that work in the media
that are convinced that this whole thing is all It's
like a Broadway show. It's all planned out. And there
were stories about that going back to the earliest when
I started in the media business and some of the
long time scribes that I used to hang out with
it would tell me stories about this guy named Pete Roselle.
You probably don't even know who Pete Roselle is, but
(21:07):
Pete Roselle used to be It's an LA guy. I
started in the media in LA after my sojourn in
San Diego. But anyway, they they're telling me stories about
Pete used to work for the Rams. He had ties
to the Rams, and they the NFL would get together
before the season. They'd kind of map out what the
top stories were for the season and this is what
they needed to have happened for ratings purposes and all that.
(21:29):
And some of these guys, these were seasoned writers who
were convinced that this was going on. So when you
see a story where the officials are getting autographs, it's
like when I was a kid, I went to a
w w F. It was called WWF, not ww I
went to an event and I waited because I was
(21:51):
a big wrestling fan a long time ago as I'm
old and I was waiting for the wrestlers, and I
was a huge Gene mean gene Oakerland fan, and he
was the ring announcer. He wore the tuxis bald bald guy.
Now I look like me and Gene. But but anyway,
I'm not a little bigger. So anyway, me and Jean
was there and he walked out. He had a jumpsuit
on and he was walking out and it was like
(22:14):
he was with like the Junkyard Dog. They were like buddies,
you know, and they're walking. I'm like, wait a minute, yeah,
you know, you guys are supposed to be buddies, really
ringing out, So you can't hang out with those guys?
What's up with that? You know? I was like that
really was a shocking thing. It Yeah, I was slip
into a slim gym. It ruined my whole thing there.
I was like, wait a minute, man, this is not right.
You broke the fourth wall. You can't break the fourth wall,
(22:37):
the k fab you can't do it no anyway. So
the NFL's got a problem on their hands, and how
can officials be unbiased when calling penalties? Against Mike Evans.
If they're holding a sharpie asking for his autograph, it's
it's a hard, hard way to go. And by the way,
isn't a photo much cooler than an autograph? Like autograph
(23:00):
used to be a big deal, but isn't it much cool? Ahead,
let me take a photo and I'll get a nice
photo op and then I can put that up on
the wall. Would I'd rather have it? I don't know
who you like, who your favorite athlete is or person
in life, but I would rather have a photo with
someone that has Joe Montana for a photo. He won't
give you one, that's right. Yeah, there's the great Joe
Montana story that Joe's become an a hole, that he's
(23:20):
a grumpy old man, Joe Montana, and unless he's getting yeah,
I bet you if Montana got paid, he would have
signed the autograph though, if he had like a little
money there. But you know, I don't know, Maybe maybe
Joe is just having a bad day. Who knows, all
right now? Page two, Page two Here, how often does
this kind of official incident with the player over a
(23:42):
signature happen? So my answer is likely gonna surprise you.
I would suspect far more often than we know about
and far more often than the NFL should should admit
or will admit. And they're comfortable admitting. And I'll tell
you why. Birds and the bees, Birds and the bees,
human hatred. You figure a handful of these guys just
(24:03):
think that they there's a part time job. Most of
these officials part time job. These are fathers, grandfathers, uncles,
and they're, hey, come on, I'll get an autograph. What's
the big deal. My niece, my nephew wants one. My
grandkids a big fan of Mike Evans. I'll get them
an autograph. Now, others are in it for their own
(24:26):
personal gain because they're collectors of memory, will be. But
any way you slice it, it's it's not a good look.
And in any business, I do believe this to be true,
there is a certain percentage of people that break the
rules and are just bad, bad to the bone bad.
You know what they do, they're bad apples. Every job
has it. It's within the margin of error. Like there's
(24:47):
bad cops, there's bad doctors. There's bad teachers. There's bad preachers,
bad talk show host there's just in any business, there's
within the margin of error. There's a certain miscentae of people.
They're just dumb asses, and that's the way that it is.
And not everyone follows the rules. There's some people that
have a very liberal interpretation of what rules they want
to follow and whatnot. Like that. All right, final point,
(25:10):
So what advice do we have as a show? What
advice do we have for future memor Hawk officials? Those
that collective memorable So you might not notice, but when
I was in high school, make a little extra scratch
on the side, I was an autograph hound and I
would follow players around after games to get autographs I had.
(25:34):
I was the middle person, and I would Then I
had somebody that had paid me to get the autographs.
They then resold them for a lot more money than
I was getting. But I got paid to hang out
and follow people around and get autographs and hang out
at stadiums. So I made okay money at that I
am mostly gas money. I got to go to games
and stuff like that. It was a lot of fun
(25:55):
and it was a long time ago, and that's how
I did it. But my advice here is to in
many ways follow the advice of Vince Lombardi. Act like
you've been there before, meaning you shouldn't do it. But
if you're gonna do it right, I mean everyone everyone's
you know, kind of off the beaten path here. They
do their own thing. But if you're gonna do it
all right, you can't do it in uniform walking off
(26:16):
the field. You have to have proper decorum. There are
ways you can pull this off. That is not how
to pull this off. Okay, that what you did is
you're you're a maron. You cannot do that. You got
to handle your business. Now. I was around baseball a lot,
and I have heard stories some people in that sport.
Somebody know for a fact that there are umpires that
would get autographs. Do you imagine a homeplate umpire getting
(26:39):
like Randy Johnson's autograph or Pedro Martinez. But they weren't,
but you know, they were memorable, your collectors. But what
they would do is they do it through back channels,
cloak and dagger style, and you don't make it obvious,
out of sight, out of mind, and the umpires would
go through liaisons the umpire room. Liaison would then go
(27:01):
to whatever locker room and would say, hey, so and
so wants an autograph for their kid, and then the
players would sign the autograph and then it would come
back as contraband and the umpire would then get it.
And so that's not sloppy. Nobody really knows about it
other than the person that's that's running the item over
(27:22):
to get autographed. But posing in the tunnel in uniform,
Mike Evans in uniform while you're surrounded by everyone's got
a camera. Everyone's an amateur journalist from TMZ. Then all
they all they need is the video and they can
sell at the Harvey Levin for a few thousand dollars. Like,
what's going on with that? My man? It's a bad
job by you, bad, bad, bad, bad bad. All right,
(27:44):
it is the band Maller show. Speaking of bad? How
about that Patriots? Wow? Uh? Is it more the Chicago
Bears good or the Patriots bad? I would say the
Patriots bad. As you talk about free falling free falling, yeah,
and we mentioned it last hour in the Mallar monologue,
(28:06):
but the Patriots managing to completely botch Bill Belichick and
his underlings completely botch the Patriot quarterback situation. Dazed and
confused would be the way to describe what the Patriots
are doing with the quarterback position. I mean, wait, man, right,
I'm glad they get paid a lot of money to
figure this out. I'm sure everything will be fine and
(28:29):
there's nothing to see here. Blah blah blah blah blah.
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(29:12):
the third degree? This is one big band gets guiled
and he's back. The Kobaloo Chief's wide receiver Juju Smith
Schuster says that playing Call of Duty war Zone with
Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelsey and Marquez Valdez Scantling was the
difference in their win over the forty nine ers. Ben,
how much stock do you put into this? That would
(29:33):
be zero? No stock. The Chiefs one because they played
better than the forty nineers. It wasn't because of a
video game. Wasn't because it call of duty. It's just
a way for Juju to promote Juju Smith Schuster And
if there was a correlation between video game play and
team success, the Arizona Cardinals would win the Super Bowl
because their quarterback is the og of the video games.
(29:57):
He spends more time playing video games and watching film.
Now next, after beating the Chargers thirty eight to ten,
Trevor Lawrence stated, you cannot deny we are a really
good football team. Jaguars have been owing for since. Has
Trevor Lawrence put the jinks on the Jags? No, No,
he is not. I do not believe in that. We
don't believe that there's any whammy placed on Jacksonville. I'm
(30:18):
not buying that. You play well, you win, you play
like garbage, you lose, Lawrence the last few games, three touchdowns,
three interceptions the last four weeks. That's deplorable quarterback play.
The Jags have had leads against Philly, Indie and the Giants.
They've blown leads in all three of those games. That's
not a Jinks that's a bad team, man, a bad
(30:39):
fing team. Next, coach Darvinham asked how Russell westbrook would
handle being benched Laton games. He said, don't have time
for the Lakers. Don't have time for people to be
in their feelings. Ben, what do you make of darvenham
statement of Lostbrooks. I loved it. I thought it was great.
It's a result space business and Westbrooks got a sourpus
over there. You're shooting twenty eight percent to begin the year.
(31:01):
And my favorite part is they leave him wide open
and beg him to shoot, and he still shoots like
he's so obtuseed. Every team does the same thing and Ross, well,
I'm wide open, I better shoot. Ross. You can't make
it outside shot? All right? There? It is Mallard, the
third of you. How do we do that? I want
(31:21):
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(31:46):
you have what it takes to get to the top?
Probably not. Let's play the game here. It is Maller's
mounting of money. And let's see who do we have
any meany? Oh boy? We got some big heavy hitters here,
man legends, legends ready to go. There's only two slots
(32:07):
on the game, and got some big time people that
would like the black. I see four legends on the
board here, but only two can play. We've got an
international call. We've got two ringers and a game show
whoreor any preference eddie on who? We have played the
(32:28):
game only that if you pick a ringer, you pick
a fellow ringer to take them on. H Well, you
could argue that three of these people are are ringers,
so then we'd we'd eliminate the international line. Guy. Hold on,
let me check in. Hey, Dave, Dave, you're in Israel, right, Dave?
(32:50):
That's correct? How's it going by? How's everything in Israel?
The midtime the mid afternoon drive show of here is
doing great? Yeah, So you don't consider yourself a ringer,
right Dave? Not really? But I would love to play though.
You want to play, right, But Eddie doesn't want you
to play because everyone else is a ringer. So if
(33:11):
we let you play, he feels like it would be
a big mismatch. What do you say to Eddie? I
have connections with that marine guy before. I don't know
if he wants to mess with him? Yeah? Would you would? You?
Would you want to play with Bennon? Oh Eddie, don't
do that? Oh yeah, all right, there you go, Eddie.
How about that? Yeah, I'll play with him. Okay, all right,
(33:34):
that's the matchup. All right, very good? All right, So
I've never lost playing with a guy from Israel. In fact,
I got Dory one, Door two and door three. Roberto
pick a door three? Oh you picked Paul in Maine. Hello,
(33:55):
Paul in Maine. Beneath get bass. Oh it's been many
months Paul since you've called the show. We're glad to
have you back. Yes, yes, my return is genuine. Are
you back in Maine? Are you somewhere else? No, No,
I'm in I'm back in Maine. Okay. You were out
in Arizona for a little bit. I know that, Yes,
(34:17):
so I was. I was visiting family. Nice, very cool. Yeah,
all right, And Paul, would you like to partner up?
You got me Roberto and Coop. You know what, let's
welcome back Coop. Coop. I want I want you as
my partner. All right, let's do it, all right, very good.
The game today is the Drake edition of Maler's Amount
(34:39):
of Money turned thirty six on Monday. So hold on
a sec. Let's make sure Dave is there. Dave are
you there? Dave? Ye? All right, very exciting. The categories
are shut it down, started from the bottom, God or
six God? And nice for what? And Dave, you want
(35:01):
to pick the category there? Due to the fact I'm
an Israel Let's go to God. Wow. Yeah, you can't
go wrong with God. And of course you're studying that day.
That's your passion right now, you're studying, all right, very good,
Hold on a second, and Paul, you have shut it down,
started from the bottom and nice for what. Let's go
(35:23):
let's start it from the bottom. Okay, very nice. Everyone,
Hold on a sec here, take care you don't go anywhere.
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We got Dave, he's spending a lot of money on
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We got Paul in Maine. That's those are the two
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rewards terms apply. We've got Dave who's listening to us
on the international line in Israel, spending a lot of
money to call in. And he is matched up with
Eddie paul Is in Maine and he is with Cooper Loop.
And here's some heavy breathings. So here we will go
(36:50):
and Eddie, your category is six. God, that is the category.
These athletes all war number six. It is the Drake edition.
Will put forty five seconds on the clock. We need
the first and last name, and you guys are on
your way. Go the King for the Lakers. He won
titles with the Calves in the heat le bron Jame
(37:13):
Heisman Trophy winning quarterback from Oklahoma. He started with the
Cleveland Now he's with Carolina. The Baker Mayfield Boston Celtics
legend he just passed away recently. All the teams, all
the players are wearing number six on their jersey this
year for him. Hall of Fame Old School Cardinals outfielder.
His nickname was the Man. Former Surly Bears and Broncos quarterback.
(37:39):
He was married to Kristin Cavalery. J Cutler, Dodger's first
baseman in the seventies. He had giant forearms. He was
known as a ladies man, and he also played for
the Padres at the end of his career. Not bad
so before your time. But you did get all the
other ones. You didn't get one hundred point question. Didn't
(37:59):
get to it. Burto's doing the math on that right now.
I think that's one hundred. Steve Garvey, Steve Garvey was
the Dodger first baseman, and the Garve never got to
w Walter Davis, which you never heard of Steve Garvey. Nope,
Oh you're a young guy. All right, Wow, all right,
well done, well dad, all right, and Paul is up
the machine. Which category did you pick? Paul started from
(38:23):
the bottom. That's right, started from the bottom. And these
athletes made the Hall of Fame after going undrafted. We
are going to put forty five seconds on the clock.
We need the first and last name, and you and
Cooper on your way go. Grocer turned quarterback for the Rams.
Warner Uh former quarterback for the Houston Oilers and and
the CFL. Warren Moon yes Um center for the Detroit
(38:48):
Pistons of the mid two thousands. He had a frow
yes Uh defensive tackle for the Vikings. He had like
really huge eye black John Randall, Yes, uh, former reliever
for the Cubs and Cardinals. He just died earlier this month. Uh.
Bruce Hoooter, Yeah, yes, um uh night train, old defensive
(39:12):
player in the NFL. Yes, wow, um, old kicker MVP
for the Browns like in the forties. He had like
a yeah run the board there on the boards. I
don't know about that. Good word, Paul, Yeah, all right,
so that's the what is that? That's two alright, three forty.
(39:35):
So we'll go back to Dave listening to us on
the international line in Israel. Dave's with Eddie. We have
shut it down and nice for what Dave? Which category
do you want? Let's go shut it down? All right,
shut it down. These athletes were all forced to retire
because of injury. You gotta shut it down. Forty five
seconds on the clock. You're on your way, go wide
(39:58):
receiver for the Cowboys, the playmaker number eighty eight, Michael Chinese,
center for the Houston Rockets. Yeah. Uh. Two sport athlete, Uh,
the Royals outfielder and then yes, uh, if you get
this wrong, you're gonna be deported. Left handed picture for
the Dodgers who threw multiple no hitters. One Young Awards
(40:19):
Jewish Fernando Venezuela no Trail Blazers guard out of the
University of Washington. He had to quit because of bad knees.
Path picture for the A's along with Barry Zero during
the Moneyball era. Uh. First and last name start with
the same letter. Um. All right, well at least you
(40:45):
got you can stay in Israel. You do not have
to uh, and you will not be kicked out of
the Jewish. Well it's news to Fernando he is. But yeah,
well he's Mexican dog. All right, So you didn't get
enough to take the lead. Right, What was that was
(41:06):
sixty about? Anyway, Paul, you want to just run it
out here, Paul Ken, we have a little time, alright, alright,
nice for what these athletes were all named MVP but
missed the playoffs. All time points leader in the NBA. Uh.
Kareem abdul Jabar, reigning n L m v P for
the Phillies. Uh. Harper, Yes, bills running back that murdered
(41:29):
his wife. Yes. Uh. Former Colorado Rockies. Uh. Guy, he's
probably like their only MVP player. Um. Troy No before
before Troy Uh Matt Holiday. No, no, all right, oh
glory wa Yes, yes, the Golden Arm Baltimore Colts quarterback. Yes,
(41:54):
uh former? Uh wow, I don't even nicknamed the Hawk.
He was an MVP for the Cubs. Grey Dawson. Yeah,
Taco for the Blue Jays. Out feel the name Taco.
You don't know the guy nicknamed Taco for the Blue Jays. No,
I don't really. You don't remember George Bell. George Taco. Yes,
(42:14):
George Taco Bell. That was his nickname. Yeah, it was
the eighties. You could get away with it back
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