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you whatever, you call your world, right, we all live
in our own little worlds there, and it's gonna be
a different night than most. As you know, I have tension,
depths of disorder. I do not like to talk about
the same thing much at all. We usually move on,
bounce around, but the rare and appropriate, rare and appropriate
a night where that does not need to apply. Here,

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there is one story that trumps all the other stories
in our little world, our little sports world. So we
have a mantra here, you play the hits, right, play
the hits, and then we will We will do that
here throughout the course the overnight. We'll keep you updated
in the big story, and then we'll talk about some
other things as well that we'll mix in. But if
you're expecting full mallar monologue coverage on every random thing

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that pops up, probably not gonna, probably not gonna happen.
But our lead this hour coming from the Queen City,
and that was the scene of the much anticipated Monday
night football game, the Bengals and the Bills, a matchup
of AFC heavyweights, and as you likely know by now,

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the game not what we're gonna talk about. Let's something
happened in the game. Cincinnati was leading Buffalo seven to three.
Early the Bengals won the coin toss, elected to receive
and end up getting a touchdown. Bills got the field goal,
and then the Bengals got the ball back and that's
when the music stopped. And if you relate to the

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party on how you were not locked in, I've been listening.
I think the whole network's been wall to wall coverage
here for hours on this story. We will continue through
the overnight hours vending develops here. But Cincinnati leading the game,
the Bengals had the ball, they were matriculating the ball
down the field against the Bills, and the game ended

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up being suspended and then eventually postponed. What does that mean.
We'll find out more on that later. Following the shocking
injury to the Bills safety DeMar Hamlin, now the playing question.
Hamlin tackled t Higgins in the first quarter as they

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were moving the ball across the midfield logo there in Cincinnati,
and he popped up on his feet and then immediately
collapsed to the ground. He stayed down there for almost
twenty minutes paramedics brought the ambulants out on the field
to expedite the care and Hamlin. One report from Fox

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nineteen Cincinnati said he had he had a pulse but
was not breathing, and that's why they conducted CPR and
also the the fibrillator was used as well on the
field in front of thousands of people that were watching
in the stadium. Was not shown on television. And then
Hamlin was taken to the University of Cincinnati Medical Center.

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The entire Bills team gathered around Hamlin. They were holding hands,
they're praying, all that devastating scene. Hamlin, as we said,
rushed to the hospital. His mother joined him in the ammy.
He's only twenty four years old. And after about it
seemed like ten hours, but I think it was less
than that. The NFL then finally announced the game had

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been postponed via Roger Goodell. As the player in question
here Damar Hamlin listed in critical condition. A gentleman named
Jordan Rooney, who is Hamlin's friend and marketing reps, said
that Hamlin's vitals were back to normal and that they're
running tests. He's in the hospital obviously, and the Buffalo

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Bills just before we cracked the mics here on their
social media, they released the statement the Bills saying that
Tomar Hamlin suffered a cardiac arrest following the hit in
the game versus the Bengals. His heartbeat was restored and
on the field he was taken to the medical sentence
we said there and further testing. He's currently sedated and

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he is listed in critical condition. So let us discuss
the question, what is your reaction to all of this,
the injury if you're watching the Monday night game or
tuning in on the radio, your reaction to the injury
to the Bills safety Tomar Hamlin. And I'll go first here,
So my ten cents on this. My reaction, it's pretty standard.

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When I was watching, I was like, that has nothing
going on. It's like this a normal, just normal play,
get up, dusted off, you know. That was my initial reaction.
And it was like I didn't seem like anything out
of the ordinary. I mean, I watched a lot of
football doing this job, and it didn't seem like this
crossed the threshold of oh my god, this is the worst.

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And we have been conditioned to know that these gridiron
cladiators are indestructible. It's a collision sport, right, it's contact sport.
Knock them down and then they get back up and
you play again. And when ESPN showed the replay on
the Joe Buck Troy Aikman Fiesta, there the play in

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question again, it did not look like it had crossed
any boundaries. But then upon further review, after looking like
a standard play where Tamar Hamlin tackles t Higgins and
we've seen a similar type collision multiple times. I was
just on Sunday, I was watching football. I saw a
play like that multiple times on Sunday. It's a coacher play.

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It was only after they showed the full clip there
Hamlin stands up and then collapse, that this became a
much different, much different situation and different than all other
NFL players. And then you see the reaction shots, the
raw emotion of the player reactions from both sides there,

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and you knew something's not right now. Typically, having been
to a few of these NFL games, or you if
you ever attended, or you know you've been there, you
know the way this works. The players on the field,
they're the ones that are tipped off to what's going on.
Bad news travels fast. When a guy gets tossed down
and the medical staff comes out, word travels like wow,

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it's got to it's just neat, or it's a shoulder,
it's a concussion. In this instance, the medical staff for
the Bills came out and the Bengals medical staff they
both ran out and they had looks of apprehension and
that ain't good. And this became a Defcon one situation,

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code three light sirens, emergency, that whole thing. And when
the medical professionals, when they are in a state of flummox,
and that's what they do for a living, then you're like,
wait a minute here, and so at that point they're like, okay,
you're wondering. Your mind starts to wander to some deep
dark places. Now. Furthermore, the fact that the Bills just

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released the statement before we crack the microphones here in
the wee hours of the morning, and the fact that
the Bills are still confirmed the initial report he's still
in critical condition. You wouldn't expect that to change overnight.
A key piece of information. I don't think we realize.
You hear critical condition, You're like, okay, what does that mean? Well,

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the definition is as I understand it. Critical condition is
defined as uncertain prognosis, vital signs unstable or abnormal, there
are major complications, and death may be imminent. That's the
definition of critical condition. Unfortunately, I've had relatives that have
been in critical condition over the years, and so I've

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dealt with that. This is obviously a different situation because
a football player tount force injury. So what happened on
the tackle that caused this to happen? Now, as you know,
doing an overnight radio show, we are not trained doctors.
We are not, but there is a lot of chatter,
and this is where we turn to our friends who
have taken the hippocratic oath these streets chirping and the bills.

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As they said, it was a cardiac arrest that took place,
and that backs up the hypothesis that has been bouncing
around here. Now it's not confirmed, it's a consensus among
some medical professionals who liked to chirp on social media
that the player in question here, DeMar Hamlin, most likely

(09:51):
suffered from something called a Komoto cortis believe that's how
it's pronounce So though I probably butchered it, what is
that it is a lunt force injury to the chest.
It's very rare, very rare. And I was reading about
this because this is the pop of the theory. We'll
find out more in the coming days and weeks whether

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this is actually what happened, but the popular theory is
that it's really just about bad timing and that it's
it's so rare that it happens just a few times
a year in all of sport. But it's essentially where
the cardiac rhythm is messed up rights. It's it's messed

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up there, and it's it is said to be a
fraction of a second window. Think about this. You think
about the fragility of life, but there's a a fraction
of a second window, and if you make contact or
get hit in just the wrong location at exactly the
wrong time, you have caused your heart to short circuit.

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Think about that. That wild I mean, it's craziness, but
that's what that is. And we don't know if this
is exactly what happened to this Bills player, but that
is what's the popular theory here is that's what led
to the cardiac event. That he was he was hit
in the chest or he actually made the contact with
t Higgins, there was a collision and it just happened

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at that perfect window where the heartbeat was in the
wrong spot, and then that led to the need to
reboot the heart on the field, restart the old engine there.
And it's also possible it could have been some undiagnosed
cardiac event. There's all kinds of conspiracy theories bouncing around
and going on on that last thing here. So is

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there anything that the NFL can do down the line
to prevent these type situations? So it's very rare, right,
there's you know, there's going to be a thorough review,
frame by frame. Every grain of sand will be examined.
You're going to have a caravan of lawyers that will
be involved than this, NFL investigators, doctors, medical experts, and

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then you'll have other activists that will be involved. It's
not safe, shut down the NFL. All that's gonna take place.
So it's it's kind of what obviously happens next. But
I wouldn't be shocked if Congress gets involved that we
have a Congressional hearing on this in terms of players safety.
But ultimate there's only so much you can do right,

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much like life, nothing is guaranteed. I have a friend
of mine that I really I haven't seen. I was
talking to Harmon and and Jason Smith it's coming in here.
I was like, there's a buddy that we kind of
all know and I haven't seen him in years because
he's freaked out by the COVID. He won't leave his house.
And I'm like, dude, you gotta live your life. Man,
it's short, life, is sure. You gotta gotta live your life.
You can't be freaking out about everything. And obviously this

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is something where it's such a freak thing that happened,
and you think about how many tackles are made, how
many collisions happen in the NFL, and it would have
pier at this point based on the information we have
at this part of the story, that there's just a
perfect storm that took place. But the lesson is there's
nothing you can You can't prevent everything, and with any
kind of movement that you may, you have to weigh

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the risks of what you're doing and decide whether it's
worth your trouble. And while many football players getting mangled,
think about this. The hundred plus year history the NFL,
only one player has died on the playing field. A
guy named Chuck Hughes back in the early nineteen seventies

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for the Lions, and he died of a heart attack
in a game against the Chicago Bears. And he didn't
even play the first three quarters of the game. He
was on the bench. I was reading about this because
I didn't know much about the story. And then with
ten minutes to go in the game, he came on
the field. There was an injured player for the Lions,

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and he came on the field. And then with two
minutes left, he caught a pass. This guy, Chuck Hughes.
He then went with sixty two seconds left, so a
little over a minute he collapsed on the field. That
the old Tiger Stadium in Detroit. Now this is nineteen
seventy one, so we're going way back in the hot

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tub time machine. And some of the Bears players, the
legend is, thought that Chuck Hughes was faking it to
get an extra time out. They thought it was all
a gag, and so they started yelling and cursing at
the guy and saying, what are you doing, your knucklehead.

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He wasn't faking. He was dead. The guy was dead.
And the doctors can try to revive the guy. They
put him in the ambulance and they took him away
and they played the rest of the game. They didn't
even stop the game. They played the rest of the game.
There was no social media in nineteen seventy one. It's
a different time. You didn't you didn't have to to

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worry about the blowback too much. And it turned out
the guyd a heart attack. He his arteries were clogged
and then and that's what triggered the whole thing. And
the family, by the way, did not blame football. The
family of the NFL player that had died nineteen seventy
one did not blame football. They blamed the hospital. And
they said that the hospital and the medical people should

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have diagnosed his condition earlier. And they sued, and of
course they did, and they won twenty one point five
way sued for twenty one million. They won an out
of court settlement for less than that. Be sure to
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team coverage all night long. It is all about what
happened on a Monday night in the Natty, not the
game itself. As far as the outcome, there was no winner,
the game suspended. It's the epicenter though, of the sporting world,
the world that I live in, and as we continue
to discuss the injury heard round the NFL, the Buffalo
Bill's Bengals game heavyweight matchup there and a matchup of

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two teams that many project down the line. It's a
three team race in the AFC Kansas City, Buffalo and
the Bengals, but more on that later. If you've been
out of the loop here and maybe you've been doing
something else and haven't been locked in here, we'll get
your cut up to speed. With a little over six
minutes to go in the first quarter, Cincinnati facing a

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second down in three from their own thirty nine yard
line and Joe Burrow coming out of the shotgun formation.
He found te Higgins short pass middle of the field,
and Higgins picked up thirteen yards as he crossed over
the fifty yard line down to the Buffalo forty eight
yard line. He was then tackled by the Bill's safety

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Damar Hamlin, and it appeared to be a route team play.
There was nothing out of sorts. Hamlin got back up,
he stood up for a second and then came tumbling down.
That's that's when things got seriously collapsed, and that set
off a chain of events that everyone's still processing. Ambulance
came on the field, medical staff for both teams working

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to treat DeMar Hamlet. They gave him CPR. They had
the defibrillator on the field for almost ten minutes, and
just before we cracked the microphones here on Fox Sports
Radio in the overnight. The Buffalo Bills have released a
prepared statement in update on the situation with the safety

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of the Bills, who was taking to hospital, and the
Bills saying on their social media channels here that it
was a cardiac arrest situation for Damar Hamlin, and so
that's kind of figured that out by now, but the
Bills made it all official and he is in critical condition,
although they claimed the vitals are back. And the hypothesis

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going around is what happened here, that the hit happened
at just the wrong time, and the theory and we'll
see if this turns out to be the case or
not down the line, but the theory is that if
you get hit, and you get hit in just the
right spot, the heartbeats off a little bit and then
it just you Your heart stops and you have to
have your heart restarted. Now, fortunately for this guy Hamlin,

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there are doctors and medical people that ran out in
the field right away. And you think about in real life,
if something like this happens, you're down at the park
and you gotta call nine one one, and then takes
ten minutes for them to get there. Five minutes whatever
it might be. But they were already there like right away,
and so it's obviously much different situation here in this one.

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But the prepared statement by the Buffalo Bills shortly before
we came on the radio here indicating what we kind
of already knew that this was a cardiac event and
a hit in the game against the Bengals. His heartbeat
was restored on the field and he was taken to
the s. Sinnati University Cincinnati Medical Center for further testing

(20:03):
and treatment. So that's the latest information that we have.
The question he said, how did the NFL handle the situation? Now,
we had our guy Andre from the Commonwealth, who was
praising the NFL. So let's be honest. We love the NFL.
We make our living talking about the NFL. There's some

(20:24):
real boobs at the NFL. Okay, the NFL fumbled this
one away like a hot potato. And that's just the
way it is. If you were watching in real time,
you know what I'm talking about. Now, seems like Andre
and some other people were not paying close attention. Maybe
they were not watching in real time. Roger Goodell dropped
the ball. No ifs ands butts about it at all

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after the ambulance carrying Tomorrow Hamlin left the field. The
initial position of the NFL in the moment was to say,
all right, five minutes, boys, we're back out there in
the field. You've just seen a man have a heart
attack on the field. We get back out there. Five minutes,
five minutes, dust off, get back out. Do not do

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not undersell that nugget. Now, the NFL is gonna use
spin doctors to sugarcoat this and pat themselves on the
back and say how great they are and all that.
But Roger Goodell's NFL wanted to just press on like nothing,
nothing big here. That's it now. From what we're told,
the NFL did not actually make the decision to suspend

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the Bengal Bills game. They didn't decide it. They're gonna
take credit for it, but they didn't decide it. So
why was the game postponed? You had an uprising, you
had a mutiny on the NFL bounty, the employees revolted.
There was dissent from the orthodoxy, a rebellion. I don't
know how else I can say it. The players, the

(21:50):
team captains, the coaches from both teams, both teams got
together and they're lying, we're not playing. That's essentially what
they said because of what happened here. They're witnessing Damar
Hamlin getting CPR, and they would not continue the game.
So it's it's essentially, we're not going to listen to you,
we're not playing. And then at that point the NFL

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then pivoted and they're like, Okay, we're gonna not play
the game the rest of the game. That's it. Now,
another part of this, as we go down the topic
tree here, why was the NFL so reluctant to initially
suspend the game? Now, there are many mitigating factors here.
You have people not at the stadium who are the
ones ultimately that call the shots. That's an important part

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of this story. The ESPN coverage, if you watched it
in real time, was a lot of wide angle shots
of the stadium, close up reaction shots of the Bills
players and the Bengal players. What they did not show
as an important element that was the CPR. That was
the guy that's heart stopped that they were trying to

(22:54):
bring back to the living world there. They didn't show that.
They didn't show the defibrillator, they didn't show any of that.
And so if you're sitting in your mansion in upstate
New York or out on Long Island and you're getting
a call saying, hey, what should we do here, and
you're watching on television, you're like, well, it's pretty emotional.

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There's an ambulance there, but come on, it's it's not
the worst thing. It clouds your your judgment. So that
was one component. You have also the fact that injuries
are a regular aspect of that business, the football business,
and you become a numb to the ruckus you do.

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You become numb. You're hardwired to clean up the broken
players and keep on going. Dust them up like it's
a spill on Aisle five, and you just move on
and you clean it up, put some bleach down there,
and you're good to go. And so that was also
part of it. Rinse, washing, repeat, You toss in that
this is Monday night football, the only game in town,

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packed towns, biggest game of the weekend, and it's in Cincinnati.
The NFL wanted the show to go on. They did
want that. Now you've got a tangled web of chaos,
which is a small part of the story to become
a bigger part of the story. Assuming the good news
continues here on Damar Hammon. We certainly hope that's the case,

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and that much like Chris Pronger, the hockey player who
had a similar incident happened, that he's able to bounce
back here and it's just a weird situation and you
can thank the medical people for saving saving him and
all that. But down the road here the tangled web

(24:40):
for the NFL is logistically, you have the Bengal fans,
the people that paid money for the game. Do they
get a refund they didn't get the game. They paid
for the game, they didn't get the game. Is the
NFL going to claim this was an act of God
and they don't have to give refunds, that it's out
of their control. I don't think that'll work. So you've
got that. You've also got the television aspect where ESPN

(25:02):
has a big money deal with the NFL. They've sold
a bunch of commercials, although it seemed like they got
all the commercials in while the poor guy was on
the field. They kept playing commercial But anyway, there's some
that they I'm sure they didn't get in. It's a
financial reimbursement for the NFL make goods. Does the NFL
give money back? And then you have the the on

(25:23):
field stuff, which is another can of worms here. And
the NFL's got games coming up on Saturday, the last
weekend of the regular season, and that means that this
weekend Cincinnati and Buffalo. Buffalo's got the Patriots, and the
Patriots are like, hey, we got a shot to make
the playoffs here. Patriots win that game, they're in the playoffs.

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And Cincinnati's still thinking, hey, we gotta Kansas City. Maybe
we end up with the number one seed and strange
things happen here. So you got all that as well.
There's really no time to make the game up. It
would be stunned if they do, because in order to
make the game up in my head here, I did
the math because I'm I'm a loser. But the game

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Monday postponed. So you've got the guys still in the hospital.
He's still in critical condition. Well, let's say this turns
out to be great, that the doctor's got to him
and he's okay, he's fine, and life goes on. So
what do you do. You're going to cancel every game
or push every game back in the NFL this weekend
to accommodate the Cincinnati Buffalo game and have them on

(26:27):
the island, or do you have games? How would you
do it? You play games on next Monday and Tuesday,
but then the playoffs start the following weekend. You got
wild Card weekend on Saturday and Sunday, and who the
hell wants to play on a Monday or Tuesday and
then have to go into the playoffs after that. But
these are all small issues, you know, compared to them,

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the big massive issue that you got the NFL is
worth billions of dollars. They can figure it out, all right.
Last thing here, So how unprecedented is the situation that
happened with the game being postponed? And we think it'll
be canceled, but at this point it's just postponed. So
this is next level from what I understand, and maybe

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I'll be corrected on this, but from what I could
track down on my Wikipedia research, this is the first time,
first time ever that the NFL has postponed a game
because of an injury to a player. Remember, last time
we had a player in the we mentioned this last
time there's a player in the nineteen seventies early seventies,
different time, fifty years ago, fifty plus years ago for

(27:35):
the Detroit Lions who died on the field, they finished
the game. They finished the game, and it's it's a
different world. We've mentioned that if social media was not around,
they would have finished this game. But the fact that
they've never done this where they've postponed a game because
of injury is something to let that sink in. And

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they in nineteen sixties yet JFK the assassination of John F. Kennedy,
they kept playing. NFL said we gotta do it, and
the postpone wins. It's not like there haven't been games
postponed or moved around with Buffalo Bills because of blizzards,
and Buffalo have had games shifted to other cities and
postponed altogether weather related nine to eleven. If you recall

(28:24):
that twenty plus years ago nine to eleven games postponed lockout,
natural disaster. They've had games in the exhibition season never
there's some games postponed because of the playing service at
the Hall of Fame. There have been work stoppages with strikes,
and that just lockouts, but strikes also the different global

(28:46):
pandemics that have taken place, and so you've got all
that in the NFL not canceling any games for a
player injury. Be sure to catch live editions of The
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It's Maller. How about that to the third Degree? This
is one big band gets grailed the Coop Dollop, Happy
New Year, Coop. The Giants reportedly want Daniel Jones back
for quote twenty twenty three n Beyond. He has an
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an extension? Oh god, no, no, no no. But if
I was working for the Giants, no, I. If you
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locomotive at the front of the train that's Sequon Barkley
and the defense a little bit, and then at the
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the Rams. So no, and Daniel Jones, he's like an albatross.
He's been an albatross for the Giants, so he doesn't
suck as much this year. So now we're gonna give
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be excited unless they think Jayre Alexander's gonna go Rambo

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on the But he lives in Green Bay. The TV
shows in LA. It's a long way, a lot of
planes trans and automobiles to Los Angeles. Skipp and Shannon
should be flattered that the first thing this Jabroni's thinking
of after an NFL game is them. He's in there,
these guys are in his head. That's a wonderful thing. Next,

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rumors indicate that Ron Rivera could be on the hot
seat in Washington. And what do you think the odds
are that Dan Snyder changes coaches before next season. Yeah.
So it's one of these things where if you look
at Snyder's record with coaches, you say, well, you'd probably
get rid of Ron Rivera and he's not that good
at coach, but Rivera's loyal and Dan Snyder needs people

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in his foxhole, and Ron Rivera say what you want
about him. He might suck as a coach, but he's
immensely loyal to Dan Snyder and that goes a long way.
So I believe that Bison time. I say there's a
twenty five percent chance that Snyder changes coach, but I
think it's much much higher the odds that Ron Rivera
is back with the Washington football team. And why not

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their new mascot, Major Tuddy the Pig. I mean, what
a great mascot that is? All right? How do we do? Coop?
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here we go. It is time now for Mallar's Mountain
of Money and let's get to the game. Right now.

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We welcome in our contestants a man that has returned
to the show from a six month suspension. A great
cheating scandal, But unlike the cheating stros this guy actually
he paid his price. He committed the crime. No, if
you do the crime, you do the time. Unlike the

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cheating a holes in Houston, this guy is a respected
member of the community. Again, other than the fact that
he put cigarettes in his mouth the wrong way. But anyway,
we welcome back Justin in, Oh, Cincinnati, I hung up
on somebody else. Call back for Lexus. Hello Justin and Cincinnati.
That's funny that you hung up on the training. I'm

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down for that, all right. I don't know what you're
talking about. Hold on a sec. Are you able to play?
You're at work, Justin? You actually have a job. Now
this is odd. Are you able to play? Are you
not gonna get in trouble with your boss? Right? I
can bust in there real quick. And when we got
a break, all right, hold on a sec. Justin's gonna
play and matchup of show legends any meany Mighty Mo?

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Pick a caller by their name. I got a couple
of legends lined up. We're gonna go with Uncle Mo.
Hello Uncle Mo. Good morning. Then how are you? I
don't know if I can still stay Happy New Year?
But if it's not too late, Happy New Year? No,
you're not, Justin said, You're not allowed to say that anymore.
He's welcome back Justin. He's the New Year's Police. Yeah,

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all right, everything good In Brooklyn Uncle, Mom, Everything all
right with you, the parts for being a fan of
the Jets. Everything's great. It was great about four or
five weeks ago. Thanks, we're looking good for the Jets.
Derek car Roberto, you can have that garbage now. You
don't want Derek Carr uncle playing the cold man. Yeah,
he's not a cold weather course, So here's this guy.

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Carl will be great for the first two months of
the year when the weather is mild in New York,
and then at the end of the year, when you
have to play Buffalo and the Patriots in December, you're screwed.
So yeah, anything's done than Zach Wilson and Mike White
and all those guys we have. Now, no you need.
Here's what the Jets need. They need. Garoppolo will be
great for seven games and then get hurt. Amazing, what

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a situation we have. And so all those people who
said that we shouldn't have that, we that we should
have been happy with winning that game against the Rams
two years ago, and course with us Trevor Lawrence, Oh yes,
you screwed that up. I remember that the Rams were
Thank you. Adam Gates, Yeah, that's Adam Gaze's gift crazy
eyes Adam Gays that's his gift. All right? Hold on,

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Uncle Mo and Brooklyn, you are going to be one
of our contestants. And we go back to Justin and Cincinnaeddie, Justin,
who would you like to partner up with? Happy New Year? Mo?
I liked mo? Uh Let's year off right and being
you buddy? Oh, come on, man, you're gonna play legiti.
You know I heard Eddie fall man earlier. By the way,

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I screw him. Yeah, okay, well that's all right. Let's
see he seems motivated. Uncle Mo. Who would you like
to partner up with? Uncle Mo? I'm off the board,
but you've got Eddie, Roberto and Coop de Loop. But
I'll make you down. I'm gonna go with Eddie, and
if I win that golden ticket, I'm gonna call up
and use that ticket to discuss that Eddie. What's wrong

(35:52):
with the part of Panthers? That is just the content
I was hoping we would get one, was not Bernay,
did I not say we need some Florida Panther content
on the short time? Calm down, Eddie, keep your pants
on over there? All right? Very good? And the categories here, Coop,
what do we have on the category list for this

(36:15):
week's edition of The Mallard Mountain of Money Game. All right,
this is the John Paul Jones edition. Who turns seventy
seven years old today? Yes, so the categories are ramble on,
Stairway to Heaven when the levy breaks? And ten years gone? Justin,
you were on first, uh last when ten years gone?

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Like my sex life? All right, Uncle Mo? Which one
do you want? Uncle Mo? I was gonna go ten
years gone because of myself as a jet sensors the
last time I go Stairway to Heaven. Stairway to Heaven.
All right, very very good. All right everyone, hold on, everyone,
stay in your place to hang up. Put you on hold.

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I'm putting you on hold. And we have Mallard's Mounting
of Money and it's entirety. We'll get to that and
we will do it next. Be sure to catch live
editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am
Eastern eleven pm Pacific. Let's get right to the game.
We have our matchup set. Justin in Cincinnati matched up

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with myself, Ben and Uncle Mole in Brooklyn is teamed
up with Eddie and Justin. You were on the air
first and you picked ten years gone. I believe is
that correct? Yes? All right, these athletes all retired ten
years ago. We'll put forty five seconds on the clock.
We need the first We need that first and last name,

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first and last name. All right, here we go and
we're on our way. Go start running back for the
San Diego Charges. Also played with the New York Jets. Yes.
Uh star third baseman for the Atlanta Braves. Retire ten
years ago. Yes, wide receiver for the Steelers. He was
a Super Bowl Hero. Yes, uh nicknamed I can't say

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his nickname, but catcher for the Texas Rangers. He's a
Hall of Famer. Yes, safety for the Philadelphia Eagles. He
also played at the end of his career with the Broncos. Yes,
catcher for the Red Sox. He was the team captain. Uh.
Yes uh Patriots tackle number seventy two. He won three
Super Bowls. Oh wow, he's back at the man's back,

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Eddie back. I'm Matt Light. There's no chance you had
no business getting Matt Light present. Unbelievable, Mo. Would you
like to quit right now? MO? Good job? Justin? Well,
that is unreal Matt. He got Matt matt our category.
You guys have stairway to head, all right, mo, These

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sports figs all recently died. Oh great, this is what
a perfect night for this category because now people are
gonna attack Coop for riding the kid. Yeah, I had
nothing to do with the riding. In case you want
to complain, go ahead, go ahead, Eddie forty five. This
is easy, man, if you pay attention to the dead

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wire like cowboy John Brad This is he's seconds on
the clock. Go ahead. Legendary Dodgers broadcaster number six for
the Celtics. NBA legend pirates, pirate loving coach, college football
Mississippi State, Washington State, UH Steelers running back immaculate reception.

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Um frankh soccer legend from Brazil. Former Broncos head coach,
went to the Super Bowl but never won it. He
was also a Cowboys riding back. Former Yeah, a former
wrestler known as Razor Ramone. His real name was a
lot more common. Uh, Pat, that's that's the last category,

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my man, Tom, I don't know. I don't know either.
He's a real sports fan. He didn't watch the wrestling.
His name is Scott Hall All right, could have given
me an hour, I never would have gotten I understand,
all right? Would you would you have gotten Matt Lite though? Um?
If you would have said the Patriots offensive lineman who
had like a random kickoff return, I would have gotten that. Okay,

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I don't even remember that. You guys down on a
hundred points? So Moe and Eddie? Would you like ramblan
or when the Levy breaks? Um Ramblon? I guess all right,
these athletes were or are all considered journeyman. No, it's
not the first. It doesn't make sense. Yeah, because he

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didn't spend that much time with any like. All right,
all right, all right? Begin coach prime super Bowl winning
quarterback for the Eagles, UM Nicole Hell Mary for Boston
College against Miami. Former Fab five member along with Chris
Webber and John Howard. Last name is a flower, UM

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Jalen Rose. Oh uh No, first name is my god?
Oh never mind? Former seventy six or big man. His
first name is a famous Biblical figure, Moses the crime Dog.
Baseball first baseman, Fred McGrath, three point shooting specialist for
the Spurs in the wrong team. Eddie Oh SuperSonics SuperSonics. Um,

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I think that was a little bit more on Eddie. Yeah, Eddie,
he lost your mojo. You're I was. It wasn't Jalen Rose,
it was Derek ra. In Eddie's defense, he wasn't the
Rose Bowl, so he did not member. No, he did
get the Rose part. Do you you could have used
Tomamanski with the Fred McGriff. You didn't do that. No, Yeah,

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Eddie gave you the wrong thing. I got my roses wrong.
Dale Ellis was. Eddie's had a lot of issues with
the Fab five over the years. All right, Justin and Ben,
you guys have when the levy breaks, you need one
hundred points to tie us? Are all from Mississippi. Just

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legendary baseball player from the Pirates, nickname the Cobra, played
for the Cincinnati reds Yes, running back for the Washington
Redskins and the Broncos. He used to wear costumes to
his news conference. Yeah, there you go. That's the winner.
Quarterback of the Eagles, the backup for the Eagles right
now Playton Jacksonville. A hundred pointers. He even get that one.

(42:51):
Uh No, we don't need to do that one. I
don't even know who that one. Yeah. Brett farves On
their guard for the Cavaliers. He won a champion ship
with Lebron played with the Clippers Journeyman guard played for
the mom No were a headband, We're a headband. Yeah,
there's no way. Come on, Cooper, Moe Williams, you won

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your back, Jesse, you won the game. He's back. Hallelujah.