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May 16, 2023 • 41 mins

Big Ben talks about the NFL striking a deal with NBC to have a pay-per-view streaming deal on Peacock for a playoff game, a preview of the Western Conference Finals between the Nuggets & Lakers, Maller to the Third Degree, Maller's Mountain of Money: Janet Jackson Edition, and more!

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way tire buying shitbe. But our lead to begin the
festivities here comes from the idiot box. Now that is
not what you are listening to right now. You are
very smart. It has been proven that people that consume
massive amounts of audio content without photos are wiser.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
It is theater of the mind. But the idiot box.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Is that thing you look at which used to always
just be a television, but now it could be a.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Computer or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
But some big news regarding that out of the NFL,
and it involves a fundamental change in the postseason. If
you didn't hear about this, and maybe you have a
life and you don't pay attention to all this kind
of stuff, and you might have missed it. So we've
learned that the NFL has cut a deal. We got
a deal with a BC and they will put one

(02:21):
of their playoff games playoffs. As our former FSR colleague
Jim Morris set back in the day, one of their
playoff games exclusively on a streaming service for the first
time in the history of the streaming endeavors, which have
been around for a few years now and have gotten
more and more popular. They started out as a way

(02:44):
to save money. Now it is a way to spend
more money. Cha Chan Chi Ching Chi Chang the other league,
announcing with much fanfare that The agreement is with NBC
Universal to broadcast a wild Card playoff game on US
Saturday night Wildcard weekend on the Peacock. It's gonna be

(03:05):
on the Peacock. That's where you're gonna watch the game. Now,
it's January thirteenth, so plan ahead, plan accordingly early in
twenty twenty four, January thirteenth, Saturday Night game. It will
be broadcast in the local markets of the NBC affiliates.
They're in the local markets with the teams. So we
don't know who's gonna be in the playoffs unless you've

(03:26):
seen the script. I haven't seen the script, and so
outside of that, it will be only available on the.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Peacock streaming service.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
So let us discuss the question, what are your initial
thoughts on the NFL getting together on a streaming deal
for a playoff game? Is one thing to put a
game on a Thursday night on Amazon, but this is
a whole different, whole different situation. So I've got the
trash man, drug lord, and Hallepano Poppers, and we combine

(04:00):
all of these random things together and we are going
to make a nice hole in your wallet. A nice
hole in your wallet. That is what we're gonna make
so a This is a big tell. We often like
to talk about on this show, the fact that you
hear different rumors and stuff, but when you can get

(04:23):
verified information, actions tell you things. And the action from
the NFL tells us that Roger Goodale on his underlings
where they're at right now. The NFL, they've already dipped
their toes in streaming, so it's not.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
Like it was a big deal. They've already been on Amazon.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
There's other games that have been on different websites and whatnot,
but Amazon was a whole new world. People still complaining
about that. The regular season, though, is one thing, but
to go and cross the rubicon, which is what the
NFL has now agreed to do, and a whole new
front tier, not the Final Frontier, the final Frontier, and

(05:03):
it'll likely happen in our lifetime a super Bowl on
a streaming service.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
So oh, it will never happen. No, no, no. This
is the next logical step you start. It's like the
boiling frog.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
You start out with the regular season, you start out
with the Thursday night games, then you move to a
playoff game. Eventually you keep upping the ante and you
don't even realize what happened. And that's the natural transition
of the way broadcast media is going. It's like we'd radio,
but we have a lot of people that listen to
this show on the iHeartRadio app or different streaming services

(05:40):
that are available, or to the podcast. When I started
in radio, the only way to hear a radio show
was the radio.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
That was it.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Now we still prefer that you listen to the radio,
but there's a million different ways, and so the technology
has changed over the years. And so where we're heading
down that path at a breakneck speed because that's where
the money is.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
You always go where the money is.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
And the thing that I'm bothered by this is it's
another sucker punch to the solar plexus of the older
NFL fan, the unconventional, the fan that does not know
the thing of a jig and all that, does not
understand the gadgets and the gizmos and all that, and

(06:25):
so you don't normally get an NFL TV deal announced
in mid May, and my friends who work in that world,
who are in the sports business world, were like freaking out.
They were like, Oh, this is amazing, I can't believe it. Oh,
my god, it's like the biggest thing in the world.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
But to do this the.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Way it was done, it is to the older NFL fan.
It's like an old nineteen sixties band, the trash Men.
The bird is the word, that's their lyrics. The bird
is the word, because this is the NFL giving the
older fan and the bird what it is. You're not
tech savvy, screw you? Who cares about you? Yeah, you're

(07:07):
on a fixed income. Sorry, sucker, We don't care about you.
You're out of luck. You're out of luck. That's what
the NFL is doing. That's what the actions tell us.
It's the middle finger. The NFL is giving the middle
finger to a certain percentage of their fans. Get out
of here, boomer, we don't care about That's pretty much
what they're saying.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
You geezer, all right? Now?

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Page two here, how does this peacock move for a
playoff game take us behind the NFL curtain? So there's
a lot of moving parts to this, but the way
I see it, it reveals the price tag. Not only
is the NFL giving the older fan the bird, but
it also gives us perspective on where the market is for.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
A playoff game.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
And we now know it's like the quote which was
attributed to the Columbian drug lord Pablo Escobar, that everyone
has as a price. Everyone's got a price, and it's
important to find out what it is. And so now
we know what the price is for an NFL playoff game.
And in the middle of an economic downturn, I've got

(08:12):
a lot of people in my life that have lost
their job. I don't know about you, people that work
in media and outside media that have lost their job
that are in my little circle. And I assume that
a lot of people, maybe even you, are like that.
So people are losing their jobs. But in the NFL,
they went to the ATM machine in the middle of
all this, and they said, I would like some petty cash.

(08:33):
I would like a nice wad of petty cash. Now,
as a result, the NFL has put their cards on
the tape, all right, They put their cards on the table,
and you can go out if you want. You can
get a Vent diagram if you want, and draw it
all up. Get the Vent diagram and do the math.
But the black Sheep of wild Card Weekend, the least

(08:53):
attractive NFL Wildcard playoff game, has a price tag of
one hundred and ten million dollars. That is the price tag.
It's not my opinion, it's not speculation. That is what
NBC is supposedly paying court to the Wall Street Journal
for one playoff game, one playoff game. He kem on,

(09:13):
you're not getting the Dallas Cowboys, You're not getting the
Pittsburgh Steels. If they make the plugs, you're getting whoever.
The ugly duckling is of Wildcard Weekend and that this
is also gonna be fun. When the schedule came out
this week, we pointed out the teams. They're four teams
that are the losers that were the dunce cap in
the NFL. And it's like the Cardinals, the Falcons, the Texans.

(09:38):
There's one other team as well, but they're the teams
that do not have a nationally televised game. As the
NFL said, these teams blow and they suck so much,
we want nothing to do with them in our national
TV partner, our showcase game, our duel games. And so
that's what this Wildcard Weekend is gonna be. Somebody's gonna
make the playoffs, likely with a losing record. They might

(10:00):
even get a home game. We've seen that. We just
saw that with Jacksonville, where they were mediocre, got a
home playoff game, and so you just move forward and
you do your thing, knock yourself out, and there are
six games. I did some back of the Napkin Malard
math here because I have nothing but time. I'm a loser,
So I did the back of the Napkin Malard math

(10:20):
on the value of the NFL playoffs based on the
latest reporting. So I'm gonna walk you through my math
and then you can give me a report on how
I did, because as you know, I was very good
at math.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
That's why I went to radio.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
So one hundred and ten million is the starting price
point for one wild Card weekend game. Now there are
six wild Card weekend playoff games, so that means at
one hundred and ten million, that's that's six hundred and
sixty million dollars. Okay, so six hundred and sixty So
I took the liberty and I said that the divisional
round is worth double. So if a wild Card game

(10:57):
is worth one hundred and ten million, a division round
game is worth two hundred and twenty million. So I
doubled the value on that. Because there's fewer games, so
that works out for that round to eight hundred and
eighty million. But wait, there's more. Now Championship weekend. I
added another one hundred and ten million. I might have
gone low on that. So now we're at three hundred
and thirty million per game on Championship Weekend. So that

(11:21):
gets us up to six sixty for that weekend. So
if you add the six to sixty plus the eight
eighty plus the six to sixty in millions, that works
out to two point two billion. And we don't even
have the Super Bowl, which is a different standalone item
all by itself. So just just the NFL plus with
the NFL's told us, what with the deal with NBC

(11:43):
that the playoffs by themselves, without the regular season which
you have to have to get to the playoffs, two
point two billion, not including the Super Bowl? Right, last
word here, So what does NBC Universal get out of
the deal to cut a check while they're laying off
people all these media companies, and to cut a check
for one hundred and ten million dollars, Well outside of

(12:05):
the cachet of saying we were the first streaming service
to broadcast a playoff game, we you know, outside of that,
which is, you know, people like that, people in media
like to brag about that at cocktail parties. But outside
of that, they're buying eyeballs. They're buying eyeballs. And the
way I look at this, it's like a sample table
at Costco. You go to Costco and you try the

(12:29):
Halopenio poppers. Now, you might not like the halopenio poppers,
and if you don't like the halopanil poppers, you're not
gonna buy the Halopenio poppers. But research is shown. And
the reason I was trying to figure this out, why
would they give away free items at Costco? I read
a study on this couple of years ago. They said
that the estimate seventy percent of people that buy a

(12:50):
sample will buy the product. Now I don't think that's right,
but that's that's what they're throwing out there.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
That's what the study show.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
That's seventy percent of people will try the Halopeno poppers
and love it and want to buy a box of
it and have a three month supply at their house
from Costco. That's what they would like. They would love
to have that. And so the peacock is looking at
this one hundred and ten million dollars. But it's important
to node that that is what it's an initiation fee

(13:17):
for the NFL. It's an indoctrination of the customers. They're
not doing it and giving it for free. You see,
this is pay per view. This is an NFL playoff
game pay per view, and it's not a lot of money.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
It's not a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
It's money though, it's money that you didn't have to
spend before that you now have to spend if you
want to watch.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
This game, unless you're in one of the cities of
the teams.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
That are playing in it. The NFL. According to the report,
the NFL is okay with NBC charging the rate, which
is four ninety nine a month or fifty dollars a year.
You have to pay for Peacock premium, which is a
special kind of peacock you have to pay. It's more colorful,

(13:57):
and so you have to pay that. So if you
want to watch the playoff game five bucks minimum, some
people will pay fifty. The argument for NBC is that
a certain percentage of people who have no interest in
watching anything on the peacock will be lazy. The key
is to get people to pay a monthly subscription at
a nominal rate because a lot of people don't actually

(14:18):
go through their finances that closely and they don't realize
they're throwing money out the window and things like that.
So once you sign up, you can cancel any time.
But they know a certain percentage of people we'll forget
about it and they'll get five dollars a month, five
dollars a month, five dollars a month, over and.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
Over and over again.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Now the other question, real quick, is the NFL spreading
itself too thin? Is the peanut butter going too thin
on the toast? And I am nodding my head yes
on this. Now, the NFL seems like they're invincible. Maybe
they are, but you now have a scavenger hunt to
watch an NF game. For so long, it was only

(15:02):
on a couple of networks. But now with this Peacock
deal NFL products, NFL games will be broadcast on not one,
not two, not three, not four, no five, ten, Ten
different broadcast outlets will have NFL games. So the traditional CBS, Fox, NBC,
you've got ABC, ESPN, Amazon, NFL Network, ESPN, Plus the

(15:26):
Peacock You've also got YouTube TV all of them are
broadcasting various NFL games, so you pretty much need a GPS. Okay,
you need a GPS to find which channel your game
is on. Is select situation.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
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Note if you're with us. Last hour, we played the
dating game with Slug, the match game, the Malordmatch Game
with Slug in Vegas, and it took an unexpected Jerry
Springer like turn with a young lady named Marissa that
called up from Vegas, and she informed us that while

(17:02):
she did call up to play the match game, she
was not that interested in slug. She was actually interested
in some other guy that calls the show, Alami Dalou,
who happens to be on hold. So I'm gonna do
the monologue and then we're gonna give they assuming everyone
stays on hold. I can We'll see if this works
out here. So no one hang up, better better for

(17:22):
me to say and then reality.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
But we'll see.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
We'll see if everyone stays on and we'll revisit that situation.
We'll revisit that situation. But our lead this hour coming
from pro Bouncy Ball. The schedule was blank on Monday,
no playoff activity. Now we actually have double barrel action
on Tuesday. For most people, they say only one game

(17:45):
is on Tuesday, and that would be the Western Conference
Finals game number one between the Hated Lakers and the
Denver Nuggets. Before that, though, it is on like Donkey
Kong the NBA's Draft life, ping pong balls in the
air everywhere. Teams that were tanking to get a shot

(18:07):
at the Parisian Prodigy will find out whether or not
they are the big winner. And if you believe the
hype on this cat, whoever wins the lottery is set
up to be a relevant NBA team for at least
a decade, maybe longer than that. And the star the
prize from France, Victor Wimbanyama is seven foot two. He's

(18:31):
nineteen years old and supposedly he shoots like Steph Curry
and he runs like a gazelle. He's not very physically imposing,
it doesn't weigh a lot, but he's only.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Nineteen years old, so they can fatten him up.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
The teams that have the highest or greatest chance of
getting the Parisian Prodigy are the Detroit Pistons, the Roquets,
and the San Antonio Spurs, who all have a fourteen
percent chance. And then after that you've got the Hornets
the Blazers. Where that would change things for Damian Lillard.
If Victor Wembanyama ended up there the Orlando Magic, will

(19:08):
the NBA change and move some things around? I would
say of the teams that have the highest chance of
getting the Parisian Prodigy from a business standpoint, the Rockets
or the Pistons would make the most sense from the
NBA's perspective of those teams, there's some other teams that
have longer odds.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
But for the purposes of this.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Mallard monologue, it's all about looking ahead to the Western Finals,
which start tonight. Now, if you're a gambler, and in
most places these days outside the Bible Belt in California,
it's legal to gamble. And so the Nuggets opened up
a six point favorite. They have stayed a six point favorite,
and most of the money, most of the cash coming

(19:52):
in on Denver the favorite, and the most of the
tickets a slight. The tickets are pretty even, but the money,
the cash is on the side of the Nuggets. If
you're into such things, if you think that indicates one
way or another, what is going to happen? But it's
Nicola Jokic, two time NBA MVP, versus Lebron James and

(20:14):
the Lakers. So let us discuss the question, all right.
The question is what must the Nuggets do to beat
the Lakers. The Nuggets coming in the number one seed,
they have home court advantage in this series. So I've
got Drawbridge, Thumb and the Gap Factory Store, and we
will combine all of these things together, and we are

(20:35):
going to make some nice rocky mountain oisters, which is
what Lebron James will be eating when he's eliminated by
our Denver Nuggets, America's team.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
Now the Denver Nuggets.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Here we go, Nuggets, here we go, Here we go, Nuggets,
here we go.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
See all right? Anyway, all right? So number one?

Speaker 1 (20:56):
All right, So the obvious answer, what do the Nuggets
have to do? Be captain obvious? Score more points. They
have to score more points. That's why you tune in
to the show. They have to score points. But outside
of that, all right, outside of the snarky obvious answer,
for Denver, the joker must continue to be a hermit.

(21:20):
He must continue to be a hermit. The Nuggets have
yet to lose in the Mile High City there six
and oh on the home court in these playoffs. Only
one of those games has even been relatively close. Only
one of those games has been decided by less than
nine points. So Denver has done. All that they have

(21:40):
to do is just win the games at home. They're
six and oh there, as we said, continue to be
a recluse, dominate the home court. Denver has also won
a road game in each series so far this season.
So not only have they been perfect at home, they've
done well on the road. So they've got that going
for them. And as long as that continues, the home

(22:00):
part of that continues, then they.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
Will be fine.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Right protect the homestead, and my advice for the Joker
is to pull back the drawbridge and make sure that
the moat in front of the Nuggets Arena is filled
with hungry crocodiles. Because Lebron James, thirty eight year old
Lebron James, and Fradgile Anthony Davis, you have run gassers

(22:25):
for those guys. You have physicality and make them run
up and down and all around. A good recipe to
wear them out. To wear them out now page number
two here, all right, how the hell are the Lakers
in the Western Finals at this particular point. So the Lakers,
as they often do this time of the year, they
have the fairy godmother that looks out for them. In

(22:48):
the Memphis series, you had John Morant who clearly was
still playing with his guns, and he also got hurt.
He injured his hand in Game one of that series
and that affected him the rest of the way. Set
out one of the games but in the Golden State
match and also the Memphis matchup, the Lakers they called
in the goons, if you will, that gave them a

(23:12):
power play advantage.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
Now all the historians like to dismiss this and say
it's not a thing.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
What are You're making a big deal about something that's
not there, And to that, I say, bullshoy is what
I say to that. The way I look at this
Lakers roster, they are fundamentally not good enough to beat
teams straight up. They're just not And anybody knows basketball
knows that they need help. They need the referees to
help them mountain. So far they've gotten it, and if
the Lakers continue to get it, they'll go to the

(23:41):
NBA Finals. They'll win the NBA Finals because it's eight
on five most of the time. The team that has
averaged the most foul shots per game in the playoffs
the Lakers. The team that averaged the most foul shots
during the regular season the Lakers, and the Lakers did
it with gust so after the trade deadline, the NBA

(24:02):
didn't even hide it. There's an undrafted guard for the
Lakers who was getting Michael Jordan like officiating because he
had the Laker uniform on. Now, the greatest example I
can give of the bias, the NBA bias here having
their thumb on the scale helping the Lakers out was
Game three of the series against Golden State. Now, that

(24:24):
game was a thirty point win for the Lakers. The
Lakers attempted twenty more foul shots in Game three of
that series against the Warriors. The myth, which a lot
of dumb dumbs like to spread as well, it's because
the Warriors shoot from downtown and all they do is
shoot three point shots, and they don't try to go
in the painted area. They don't try to go towards

(24:46):
the basket. That's why the Lakers get all those foul shots.
And it's not just bias officiating, it's just you don't
know basketball. So we pointed it out at the time,
but it bears going back. The problem with that hypothesis
is it is a lie. It's not true. We've debunked it.
The Warriors in that game attempted forty one shots in

(25:07):
the painted area. The Lakers attempted forty, so Golden State
was pretty even. They said one more shot than the
Lakers in the painted area. But yet the Warriors attempted
twenty less foul shots. Why because of crooked officiating, That's why.
And that's the big concern for the Nuggets. You're going forward,
you're going to have the officials who are gonna side

(25:27):
with the Lakers, and any fifty to fifty call, they're
gonna give it to the Lakers.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
That's we have no evidence. It's gonna go the other
direction here. And if you.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Sow as breathe, if you breathe on Lebron James, that
is a foul. If you give Anthony Davis the stankye,
that is the bonus. So the Lakers will be in
the bonus. And as far as the X factor for
the Nuggets, the thing that blows my mind is even
with the clear bias by the NBA officiating, Golden State

(25:57):
still wins that series if they just make the open show.
There's another myth that the Lakers are a good defensive team.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
They're not.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
How many wide open three point shots did Klay Thompson miss?
How many wide open shots did Steph Curry miss? And
so visit the gap, take advantage of the gaps in
the Laker defense at the Factory Store there and there
were plenty of holes there. Klay Thompson and Steph Curry
did not make them. It's obviously imperative. You're going to
get a lot of open shots if you're Jamal Murray,

(26:27):
if you're Nicola Jokic, and the other Nuggets take advantage
of the open shots. Because the Lakers are not very
good defensively, they will leave you open. You will have opportunities.
The only interference will be the air conditioning. That will
be a problem. But guys like Aaron Gordon, Michael Porter,
junior players like that, who have run hot and cold
for Denver, they obviously have to be more consistent. But

(26:49):
if you look at it side by side, I would
much rather have Nicola Jokic than Anthony Davis. I'd rather
have Jamal Murray at this point than Lebron James. Jamal
Murray's young. He's been a better player in the playoffs
than Lebron James at age thirty eight. And if you
look at the numbers, it bears out that as far
as shooting and things along those lines. So the Nuggets

(27:11):
should win. They should win in in six games, all right,
They should win in six games, and then Denver will
go to the NBA Finals and they'll play the Boston
Celtics in the NBA Finals and we'll see that matchup
how that turns out.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
Down the line.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Now, turning the page real quick, I wanted to talk
about this James Harden's story because that's been bouncing around.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
It came across our radar.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
So James Harden, if you believe the reporting, does not
want to play for Doc Rivers anymore, which is you
talk about a fresh take that James Harden has let
it be known his inner circle that he doesn't want
to play for Doc Rivers. Now reports indicate that Harden,
who has a player option hello for like thirty five

(27:52):
million dollars, is not going to go back to Philadelphia
if Doc Rivers is there, the fake doctor, if he's
in the house. So how Philadelphia fans react to James
Harden being at loggerheads with with Doc Rivers. So I
would give this an eye roll and a shrug is
what I would. I would give the old eye roll
and the shrug on this. For a couple of reasons,

(28:13):
Doc Rivers is going to be fired. He hasn't been
fired yet, but he's going to be fired. It's inevitable.
He'll be doing television or coaching the Bucks of the
Suns next year. They're not going to bring him back.
They can't bring him back to Philadelphia. That would be
basketball malpractice.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
So he's gone.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Secondly, James Harden is going to opt out of his
contract anyway. Why, because that's the thing that be as
whyse As Solomon, that's what you have to do. You
have to opt out of the contract. You're a thirty
three year old close to washed up guard. We saw
Harden hot and cold. He's not consistent, He's never been consistent.
And you can sucker some team like the Rockets or

(28:50):
somebody else to give you a couple of years on
the contract.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
And so fine.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
But I don't believe that James Harden has a problem
with Doc Rivers. I think that's fake news. And I'll
tell you why. I've seen Doc Rivers coach up close
in person, and if you can't play for Doc Rivers,
you got problem. And I goof on Doc Rivers all
the time, and I think he's a terrible coach. But

(29:15):
if I was a star player, I would want Doc
Rivers as my coach. He lets the star players do
whatever they want. They don't have to work hard in practice.
Doc stands there.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
I've seen him.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
I watched him when he coach the Clippers in practice.
He'd stand there and observe on the side, and then
the assistant coaches would do the heavy lifting, and then
Doc would come over and give one of his legendary
pep talks, which would cause the team to crumble and
all that. So, yeah, I don't know if you can't
play for Doc Rivers as a star player. That's the
easiest coach in the NBA to play for. Although are

(29:47):
there really any difficult coaches at this point? Maybe Tom Thibodeau.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
With the Knicks.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
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Speaker 3 (29:58):
Hey, I'm Doug Gottlieb.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
Post is called All Ball. We usually talk all basketball
all the time, but it's more about the stories about
what made these people love their sport and all the
interesting interactions along the way. We talked to coaches, we
talked to players, We tell you stories. You download it,
you listen to it.

Speaker 5 (30:17):
I think you like it.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
Listen to All Ball with Doug Gottlieb on the iHeartRadio
app Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
It's Mallard.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
How about that?

Speaker 2 (30:29):
To the third degree, this is one gets grail.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Is it bad that my memory of Thrman Thomas is
that he forgot his helmet before the Super Bowl?

Speaker 3 (30:40):
And that's really what I remember.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
They're so negative, No, but I'm fascinated by that.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
I remember watching that game and I was.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
Like, how can you not find your helmet before the
Super That's a fascinating anyway, go ahead, Coopl Mark shaking
his head, yes, go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 5 (30:54):
Jets GM. Joe Douglas said one thing that he would
have done differently with Zach Wilson was giving him a
veteran backup during his rookie season. Now, Ben, you are
a proponent of throwing rookies into the fire, but how
important is it for them to have a veteran quarterback
holding the clipboard?

Speaker 3 (31:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (31:08):
So this is what's known as excuse making.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
Is what this is. It's a reach and I get it.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Joe Douglas put his neck out. He drafted Zack Wilson.
He's now trying to claim it's not Zach Wilson's fault
that he blows that it's other people's fault. But it's
a performance based business, and Zack Wilson has not performed.
And the fact that the Jets' locker room hates him,
that's also a terrible sign for.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
The long term future.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
But there's there's not like a veteran quarterback would have
shown Zack Wilson the light.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
I mean, that's ridiculous. Joe Douglas is.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Still trying to upsell Zack Wilson and make excuses for
his incoonnfidence and all that. But enough Wilson has yet
to show that he's worthy of where he was dripped.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
You're the number two pick. That's not a developmental pick.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
That's a play pick right away, play pick next.

Speaker 5 (32:02):
We just talked about him. Over the weekend. Zach Granke
became just the fifth pitcher in NLB history to strike
out one thousand different hitters in his career. Three of
the other four are in the Hall of Fame, and
the one who isn't Roger Clemens should be. Then is
Granky a Hall of Famer?

Speaker 1 (32:18):
So I don't have him as a Hall of Fame.
He's a borderline Hall of Famer Number one. It depends
on how deep into the well you want to go.
I think of Zach Granke in the category of Kevin Brown,
Mark Burley, Tim Hudson. Those guys were good pitchers, but
I don't think any of them I believe it.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
I don't ever hear in the Hall of Fame, and
so I don't have Zach Granky.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
And the other problem he's got is the guy that's
also similar to him as Mike Mussina. But he got
in because he played in New York, and Zach Greenke
hasn't played in New York. He didn't play for the Yankees,
and so that's also a problem. Most of his career's
member with the Royals and then the Dodgers and the Diamondbacks,
and he bounced around his claim to fame. Though this
guy's a money maker. He's made a three hundred million dollars.

(33:01):
I remember when he signed with the Dodgers in twenty thirteen.
When they got him in twenty thirteen.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
He didn't want to play in LA. He hated LA.
He was a kid from Florida, but the Dodgers paid him,
so he stayed in LA.

Speaker 5 (33:11):
Next after the Knicks one Game five against the Heat,
Julius Randall went over to his wife, and the couple
shared a kiss. Apparently that didn't go over well with
former NBA player Kenyon Martin, who said, where's your mind
at Martin said he would go to be with his
guys and not even think of his wife. Ben thumbs
upper thumbs down on Martin's take, Well, I think we
know where his mine.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
I don't. At least we know where his tongue was.
I don't know where we know his mine was.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
But uh, I don't have a problem with the take
the time to make out with the wife and the
girlfriends when you won a championship, not a second round
playoff game if you're Julius Randall with the Knicks.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
But it's like, not the worst thing in the world,
but it's what do you do? How do we do?

Speaker 5 (33:49):
Kobolo pass?

Speaker 3 (33:51):
That does I win? I won?

Speaker 1 (33:52):
A Hey's shaking his head, Yes, I won the game.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
That's right, Eddie, I won the game.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
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to listen live. Now Malor's Mountain of Money? Do you
have what it takes to get to the top.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
Probably not, and we will play Malard's Amount of Money.
Right now, let's play the game.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
We welcome in our contestants, and who do we have.
We've got Zach who's in Orlando, and we say hello
to Zach.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
Hello, Zach, hey, man, welcome in. Good to have you.
You're gonna play our game. And we also have Dave,
who is in Louisville. Hello, Dave, Hey, good morning man,
Good morning you, Dave.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Good to have you, guys on and welcome to the show.
Let's play the game here. Who do you want to
partner up? But we'll start with you Zach in Orlando, Eddie?
All right, Zach and Eddie. That'll be the team that loses.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
And Dave, who would you like to partner up with?

Speaker 1 (35:02):
Dave?

Speaker 3 (35:03):
I'll take you man, that's right because you want to win.

Speaker 6 (35:05):
Dave.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
You're a winner and you want to win the game. Dave,
that is a smart choice by you. What are the
categories for this game?

Speaker 3 (35:15):
All right?

Speaker 5 (35:16):
This is the Janet Jackson edition of Maler's Mount of Money.
She turns fifty seven years old today. The categories are
as follows, what have you done for me lately? Funny?
How time flies? Empty? And call on me. Zach, you
were on first, which category would you like?

Speaker 3 (35:37):
Call on me?

Speaker 5 (35:37):
Call on me?

Speaker 3 (35:38):
All right?

Speaker 5 (35:39):
And Dave, you've got empty funny how time flies? Or
what have you done for me lately? What are you
done for me lately? Okay, alright, So Zach and Eddie
are up first on call on me. Remember, gentlemen, you
need the first and last name of the athlete in
order to get points. You have forty five seconds on
the clock. Zach, are you ready? All right? These athletes

(36:01):
came off the bench to lead their team to success
forty five seconds begin.

Speaker 6 (36:06):
Probably the greatest quarterback in the NFL for the Patriots
and Buccaneers, Tom Brady. I was a guy who bag groceries,
then got a chance to play in Saint Louis with
the Rams. Won a superner quarterback for the Carolina Panthers.
He was from Louisiana. Got him to a Super Bowl
they lost. Yes, we hit the home run nineteen eighty

(36:27):
eight for the Dodgers walk off against the A's. Oh okay,
white guy NBA player for the Miami Heat right now, Yes,
a little guy for the New York Knicks, also famous
for getting knocked out as a boxer famously Yes, former

(36:47):
Boston Red Sox outfielder. His last name is no No,
that's all right. I don't know why Ben was talking
while I was trying.

Speaker 5 (36:56):
To right, he was trying to cheat.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
I think you cheated. It was more time.

Speaker 5 (36:59):
No, the clock was going the entire time. You cheat,
by the way, two hundred points, Tyler Hero is.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
Not playing for the Miami. He's hurt, so he's not
an active player for them.

Speaker 5 (37:11):
That doesn't matter who No, I was? Okay, Ben's Ben's
trying to cheat right now by like like taking up
too much time. All right, that was a good showing
by Zach and Eddie was two hundred points.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
Good job by them.

Speaker 5 (37:24):
We're gonna go over to Aeling He Yeah, we're gonna
we can go over to Dave and Ben. We failed
to get two hundred points. Uh, I believe you chose.
What have you done for me lately? Is that correct?

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Dave?

Speaker 3 (37:37):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (37:39):
Okay? Uh Dave. These once great athletes could be considered
washed up. Uh forty five seconds on the clock begin
all right. This guy was a third basement for the Cardinals.
He was a multiple time All Star. He's on the
podres right now. Third basement of the Potters. Last name
is like a handyman name.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
I don't know. Pat all right.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
I won two Yeah, I won two cy Young Awards
for the Cleveland Indians. He's now in the Red Sox
getting lit up. He's a starting pitcher, Sally what.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
All right? Uh?

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Pitcher for the Red Sox. Also and uh, he won
a cy Young with the Red Sox. Also, I think
with the White Sox. He's not been very good lately.
Skinny guy string Bean pitcher for the White for the
Red Sox. Dave, do you even watch sports?

Speaker 3 (38:31):
Dave? Do you?

Speaker 5 (38:32):
Dave's not even there. Dave's not there?

Speaker 3 (38:35):
Oh, oh my god, he's not. I did the clues perfectly,
any and he wasn't even there.

Speaker 5 (38:41):
Did the clues perfectly. Yeah, good strategy, starting with the
hardest one.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
Oh no, that was listen, he hung up. He wasn't there.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
I went We win you guys that game because perfect clues.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
All right? No, Jed, who fled? Are you gonna step in? Jed?
Who fled? Are you there? Jed?

Speaker 5 (38:56):
Ye?

Speaker 3 (38:58):
All right, we get to go again. We're gonna be here.
Here we go, all right? Jed?

Speaker 5 (39:01):
Do you want uh? Funny how time flies? Are empty.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
Wait all, hold on, all right, I'm not playing again.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
I don't like Jed's attitude. I know what's gonna do.
You're gonna be part of that.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
Dave hung up? What's wrong with Dave? So bad?

Speaker 1 (39:30):
He couldn't Oh yeah, a guy who was a three
time All Star for the Cardinals and then went to
the padres right now and.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
His last day is like a handyman named Matt Carpenter.
That's a great f and clue.

Speaker 6 (39:41):
And why didn't you get it?

Speaker 3 (39:42):
Because he wasn't there ready. He hung off. That's why
he didn't get it.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
All right, he's gone, Thank you man. I was just
like play against the sabotaged by Cooper Loop Dominance.

Speaker 5 (39:58):
It's like the Garcia Globetrotters.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Because, by the way, Mark, Mark just told me in
my headphones. Mark told me that Coop hung up on
my market.

Speaker 5 (40:11):
Mark doesn't tell you anything. He stopping.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
Mark doesn't speak smiling.

Speaker 5 (40:17):
Mark hasn't said a word since the last time he's
been on the show.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
Have a telepathic communication. All right, we were saying signals.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
It's you know, never said a word, say.

Speaker 5 (40:31):
You said it wasn't said it was Mark.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
It's like airdrop is hearing voices, you know, it's like
it's like you can air drop. You air dropped the
message to my head. Mark, you were sending me like
an air drop to my head.

Speaker 5 (40:50):
That's a golden ticket for Zack and Orlando.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
That's what happens when you played Garcina. Shame on you,
David Louisville. And this guy Coops, Oh, this guy knows baseball.
He was, Oh, yeah, he had no baseball. That guy
didn't know by you went there, you hung up on him, Coop, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
So much, Cooper.

Speaker 5 (41:12):
That's how bad your clues were.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
And he decided to hangd up because he didn't stop talking.
This man is not won't stop talking. He's radio smiling
right now.

Speaker 5 (41:20):
Former Red Sox pitcher that won a sat Young Award.
Yeah yeah, good one.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
String beanan dummy played for the White Sox.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
Those were great clues. One amazing clues
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