August 2, 2023 • 38 mins
Ben Maller talks about Nathaniel Hackett saying that Sean Payton "broke a code," what this whole thing tells us about Hackett, Maller to the Third Degree, and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello and welcome. It's our number two. Our two is
in the queue and it's all about words mean words
from Sean Payton, the Broncos coach. How did you process
Nathaniel Hackett's rebuttal to Sean Payton's rand to why is
(00:22):
this coaching code of conduct a thing? And what does
this episode tell us about Nathaniel Hackett as an NFL coach.
We'll talk about all of those things and many more
right now here. It is our number two. Oh what
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sure that will go very well, unless it does not.
But our lead is not about that. It is about
the former coach of Alvin kamaras Sean Payton. His words
(02:15):
still have legs. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. I think
it's a fourth Mallar monologue that we've squeezed out of
the toothpaste tube, the Sean Payton toothpaste tube. So let's
go back to the well one more time. Now. The
Denver broncos head coach, if you have been in a vacuum,
the broncos head coach dropped a cartoon size acme anvil
(02:39):
on top of the head of the former Denver head coach,
Nathaniel Hacket. So we had Aaron Rodgers channel Will Smith
in defending his offensive coach Nathaniel Hackett Rogers did that.
Now we have the man of the hour that has responded.
(03:00):
So I don't know if you saw this or not,
but the Jets offensive coordinator Nathaniel Hackett, the much maligned
Nathaniel Hackett, responding to Sean Payton's blistering analysis and just
going on and on. There we have some audio we're
going to play for you. But he talked about the
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crossing of the line, shall we say. Here's the former
Broncos head coach Nathaniel Hackett discussing the code of conduct.
Take a listen.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
I've been involved in this business my whole life, and
as a coach, you know, as a coach's kid. You know,
we live in a glasshouse. We know that we all
live in different rooms. We all got a key for it.
And it's one of those things that there's a code,
there's a way things are done.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Well, that sounds terrible. Everyone's got their own key and
everyone's living in the same house and all that. Here's
more from Nathaniel Hackett. He did not say the name
of Sean Peyton, but he did here say that what
happened was not he was not happy with what happened.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
It's frustrating and it sucks, but we're all susceptible to it.
They're things that you do, mistakes you make, and it
costs you time on the field, cost you your job,
all those things, and I own all that stuff. It's
unfortunate that that had to happen, that the comments that
were made, but hey, they.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Did, okay, So let us discuss how do you process
Nathaniel Hackett's rebuttal to Sean Payton. I've got mentored Academy
Award winner and Prince charming, and we will combine all
of these things together and we are going to make
a rocking chair, which is what Nathaniel Hackett should be
(04:46):
sitting in, not coaching in the NFL anyway. All right,
so number wh Yes, Nathaniel Hackett did not move the
needle in the positive direction. If anything, it went the
other direction. The commentary, you heard a lot of it.
We played most of the good stuff, not all of it,
(05:09):
but most of the good stuff we played for you,
and it went by the books. I saw the thing.
It happened when I was sleeping, but I woke up
and because of the Internet, you can watch these things.
And he never used the coach Sean Payton's name, keeping
his name out of your mouth or in this case,
out of my mouth. Nevertheless, Nathaniel Hackett, it felt like
(05:34):
he was mentored. The rebuttal was choreographed.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
It's like, all right, here's what you needs do, all right,
trying to hit this. Don't say his name, no, no, no,
don't say the man's name. But here's the talking points,
and he just followed the talking points memo. It's like politics,
and every day the Democratic Party sends out talking points
and the Republican Party sends out talking points and they
just repeated all day, regurgitated. That's what Nathaniel Hackett sounded
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like to me, that he was given some professional guidance
in this diatribe here, advised on what to say, how
to say it, and all of that. But all of
those statements that he gave out to all of those
statements that Hackett issued, and the other people that have
defended his honor as well, nobody is really addressing the
(06:24):
komodo dragon in the room, and what is the komodo
dragon in the room.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
That Sean Peyton was not lying, He didn't lie with
what he said. And that's the part which is fascinating
to watch everyone scramble around and what a big hullabaloo
this has become. But ultimately, what Sean Payton said was right.
(06:51):
It was the gospel. And I don't know anyone that
would disagree with that unless your last name is Hackett.
If you gave truth sir out and said, Okay, what's
the real story here, what do you think the answers
would be? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:07):
What?
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I would have advised Hackett to become more likable to say,
you know what, Sean Payton's right. I was an absolute embarrassment.
It's not gonna happen again. And I'm lucky I got
another opportunity. And I've been a carpetbagger my entire time
in the NFL, but I'm gonna take ownership of it.
Did Hackett do that Nah? I didn't give a passing
(07:30):
reference to it. But he didn't go all in and
he Hackett made a great choice. A couple of years
ago he latched on to Aaron Rodgers as the caboose
of the Aaron Rodgers train. True, and that's worked out.
Remember he has fired in Jacksonville for incompetence and in
subordination with the Jacksonville offense. They fired his ass and
then Hackett went to Green Bay latched on to Rogers,
(07:53):
riding his coat tails. And then when he went to Denver.
The whole point of the Denver Broncos hiring Nathaniel Hackett
to whoo Aaron Rodgers. We know how that went. The
Broncos didn't get Rogers, they got the consolation prize in
Russell Wilson. They won four games. That was it with Hackett.
He went four and eleven. He got let go before
the final couple of games. Now page two here, why
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is this coaching code? Breaking the code? Why is this
a thing? Serious question?
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Now?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I know it's there, we talked about it. It's not
like it's a shocking revelation. I get that. But I'm
gonna tell you my theory on this. So my theory is,
here's my hypothesis. The coaching code of conduct don't break
the code. That is because of plausible noiability. That's what
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the coaches have right. Being dishonest, which coaches do, speaking
in white lies and stretching the truth and those kind
of things allows them to be slippery like an eel,
very slippery. And it was the Classic Academy Award winning
actor Jack Nicholson and a few good men who had
(09:07):
one of the great lines in cinema in the last
couple generations when he said, you can't handle the truth.
And that's really what the code of conduct is all about,
the code of coaches, the brotherhood of coaches and all that.
That's the reality of the situation in a nutshell, that
you get all the perks being a coach and get
good money and you're not actually playing in the games.
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You're not getting your head bashed in turned into scrambled eggs.
Your brain doesn't look like that. So you do that
and you dodge direct criticism because no other coaches are
allowed to criticize you because it would break the code.
These guys go around acting like these coaches, like slime
bag bureaucrats, is what they do. The way they operate there,
it's fascinating to me. There's a phrase in the UK
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they call them porky pies, and that's what a lot
of these coaches love to serve up here. Everything is camouflaged,
everything is guarded and all that. And the good news
is we have Dakota rings here that we can decode
a lot of the noise. We can decode that. Now,
final point, what does this latest episode tell us about
(10:15):
Nathaniel Hackett. So he heard some of the clips, not
all of them, but some of the clips from the
Jets offensive coach talking about the situation. So to me,
what it tells us is that I'll go first, Nathaniel Hacket.
What he lacks as a head coach, he makes up
for in personality. Now I've ever met the man. He
(10:38):
must be like Prince Charming. He's a snake charmer. He
must be because he sucks as a coach. So think
about how amazing this guy must be to hang out
with Nathaniel. Hey, that's my thought. Like all these guys
love him, the players in Green Bay, they love him.
He keeps getting jobs, although a lot of that is
just nepotism. Most of it's nepotism. Here's the way I
(11:01):
look at Nathanian Hackett. If his father was a plumber,
he would have been an apprentice plumber. His father happened
to be a football coach, so he became a football coach.
If his father was a sanitation worker, then Nathaniel Hacket
will be a trash man. He went into the family business.
That's what he did. He's not good at it, but
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he's a great guy. He's the kind of guy you
want to have at the company picnic, at the at
the barbecue, you want to have Nathaniel Hackett. They're telling
stories and jokes and making animal sounds. That's that's what
you want. Prince Charming, That's what I'm going with. Prince Joum, charismatic,
debon air, friendly and all of those things and so.
(11:45):
But he's not a sympathetic figure, is he. I don't
have him as a sympathetic figure on my scorecard. Maybe
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Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah, been about Nathaniel Hackett and his commentary. As the
story continues to turn over these comments made by Sean Payton,
and it's a game of he said, he said supermarket.
Steve writes in he says, I love the juxtaposition of you,
Ben standing next to all these former newspaper writers who
(15:20):
wrote articles about how radio was a dying industry. Yes,
there is a there's a bit of irony that many
of my old pals who were newspaper columnists and wrote
many stories about how radio was dying, did not realize
that their building was on fire, did not put the
fire out as the newspaper burned down. Yeah, and Nick
(15:41):
at others, radio has been better, it's getting better. But
the good thing about radio, unlike the newspaper business, who
hasn't been able to make money from online content consistently,
because you can get pretty much the same thing anywhere,
the radio companies, for the most part of embraced podcasting,
so you get double your pleasure, double your fun to
do the show and then his podcast and all that
(16:02):
inca Tera writes and said, Nathaniel Hackett really say that
Sean Payton's true comments cost him time on the field,
so he can't think straight anymore. Is there any other
way to read into that? Please explain. Yeah. So the
way I read that in Kota is Nathaniel Hackett was
(16:23):
upset because he was playing rock scissors paper with some
of the offensive linemen for the Jets, and then the
PR guy for the Jets came over and said, you
gotta talk to the media. Is I'm doing the rocks
paper scissors, I can't be interrupted. And then Nathaniel he
thought he was really creative because he added dynamite, and
normally it is this rock paper scissors, but he then
added the dynamite and that was like next layer. That
(16:46):
was next layer. The Russian kid says, I have no
comment regarding the last male of monologue. So I'm just
gonna stare at pictures I took five minutes ago of
the moon. Well it's pretty good. It's a solid, solid camera.
You got that Russian kid? You I don't know is
that your phone? Is that a special camera? I don't know,
he said, I guess it's a special camera. Let's go
(17:06):
to the phones and we'll say hello to a man
who was caught up in a major show scandal. And
he's still calling up here, and many people very upset
with this man, saying he should be fed from the show.
Well you can't see wait wait wait, wait, very very sir,
scratch off. You understand you can't say what you just said.
Speaker 7 (17:30):
Some gets parted. Okay, I've been trying to do this
for a long time and I keep forgetting it. Ohio, Sam,
how you doing, buddy?
Speaker 4 (17:36):
No?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
No, you you started to call by cursing.
Speaker 7 (17:40):
No, I didn't say nothing wrong with Let's shoot, you
didn't hear what I said.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Does anyone think he said shoot, you're lying again instead
of sir, scratch off your Pinocchio. That's your new name, Pinocchio.
They're gonna make a new movie with Coop and you're
gonna be in Liar Liar too. So congratulations.
Speaker 7 (17:58):
T happing me last night, man, Dull Capany's got but
I think a lot of them. Two guys just good
have slapped me around, and I get out the phone.
Come on and all you matter, militia, listen up real good.
I got Friday night.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
He hang up on me.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Yes, I hung I hung up on you. I did
you No, I hung up on you. You're not You're
not on the air. I hung up on you.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
You're not on the.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
It's all over right now, yeah, yeah, you're This is
not This conversation is not happening. I hung up on
breaking news.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
It's good.
Speaker 7 (18:28):
It's called good.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
No, it's not. It's not good. No one's hearing this.
It's all over.
Speaker 7 (18:32):
You give me your time, give my time, okay.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
My time is very valuable. I get paid one cent
per second.
Speaker 7 (18:39):
Friday night, I'm.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Think phone's dying.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
Did it dying?
Speaker 7 (18:47):
I just come across the state line an art sol
and I always lose. I have to pold my hand.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
That's second wind.
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Thank you call in say hello and we appreciate it.
Let's go to Andre in the Commonwealth. Who's next? It
is the Ben Malors Show. As we roll on? Hello, Andre, Hey.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
What's going on? Ben? Thanks for taking Nicole. Listen. You're
talking about this Sean Payton's Nathaniel Hackett situation we have
going on with a little bit of too much honesty.
You know, Sean Payton had that elixir. You know, we
kind of forgot his administrative rolling, his role as a
four star general and started speaking from the heart instead
(21:00):
of being more strategic. But Ben, listen, I think this
is based on effect. You know, you know what Denver
Broncos are in the power rankings. Yeah, this was surprising me.
Twenty third, twenty third in the Power rankers. People aren't
sold on this.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Hole on this well, well, now, Andre, you know what
you can do with power rankings and toilet paper. You
can do the same thing. You can wipe your tukis
with power rankings, and uh yeah that power rankings are
a scam, A scam, not one I'm against doing. By
the way, if you want me to do power rankings,
(21:33):
I'll do power rings. You know, I got Eugenie in Chicago.
Loves power rankings. He always wants lists, He loves that
kind of stuff. Anyway, go ahead on you. You are
you're a defender of Nathaniel Hackets and competence. You like
that this guy is been guilty of malfeasance and continues
to work in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Yeah, but not so much about Hackett. I'm concerned. I'm
frankly concerned about Sean Payton because we like ten.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Million dollars a year. Who cares about Sean Payton. It's fine.
Then if he sucks, he'll go back to Fox and
do television.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Yeah. Yeah, so he's playing with house money, so we
can go out there and do whatever the heck you want.
But some people look at Sean Kayton Peyton and think
he's a competent football coach. And we have questions about that.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
For the reason I said ten million, he's actually the
chatter is he's getting closer to twenty million per year
per season. He's getting that Walmart money exactly.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Man, you were thinking of you you were talking about
that sinley coated paper there, you know, And that's what
that twenty million dollars is to the Walton family. All right,
that's a couple of pennies in the jar there for
tip money, you know what I mean. You get like
a dollar and change and tip, you know, back from
the store. You know, you just go that in the
tip jar. That's what that twenty million dollars is to
the Walton family. So yeah, Sean Payton, you're gonna be
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doing good and living the.
Speaker 7 (22:52):
Life of luxury.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
But some people look at you as a respectable football coach,
and that's coming into question based on the fact that
the New New York Jets are ran twelve. Now, you
don't much.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I don't care. It means nothing. It's it's an opinion base.
I like to actually see the teams play and all
the teams start out the same and all that nonsense.
I don't I don't care about powering is somebody's opinion.
I have my own opinions. I don't need somebody else's
opinion to tell me what to think.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Sure, but when you look, when you're when you're looking
at futures and the people in the desert in Las
Vegas and those things. Ten two. Just like with your
rankings for players, you know, Peyton Manning was the number
one ranked high school player in America. Oh, rankings don't
mean anything. Well, it turned out pretty good.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Grand Yeah, well, you brought that up because it valids
its confirmation bias. What about the other players that were
ranked highly that never made it. You don't bring those
guys up because it doesn't fit the narrative.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Point taken.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
But I scored a point against Andre Yes, yes he
scored many points.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
But this has to do.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Listen, Sean Pattin, sum it up, Sum it up right now,
give me one brilliant final take. Here we go.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Here's the final take. My man at Oderon is over
there on the beach, suns out, guns out, looking good
with his beautiful fiance left football. He's having a ball
in his next career. That's where Sean Payton's gonna be
ending up in two three years. If he keeps up
with this foolishness, people look at him as respectable football coach.
He's gonna be on the beach somewhere with him, you know,
probably miserable because a lot of these guys are miserable
(24:17):
when they leave the game because he didn't keep the
main thing, the main thing. That's the point, Sean Payton.
Shut your mouth, as Tom Brady says, well done is
better than well said.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Thanks taking the time there he goes, Andre uh uh
de Vaughn writes and he says, sir, scratch and sniff
makes less sense than the Boston Burper. Wow, that is
It's impressive. What a tough loss for the Boston Burper
and the Mallard Palooza talent show man. Great performance. Did
the Mallard oath ended up falling down at the very
(24:48):
end there? Bagel Boy writes and says, Hackett is a boob.
He enjoyed the Mallord monologue. Thank you Bagel Boy, having
everything Bagel.
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Speaker 6 (25:35):
So we talked about this yesterday briefly, but it was
supposedly a big day for the PAC twelve, their commissioner
presenting the TV deal for Yeah, conference.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
You got to deal with NBC or CBS or ABC
or Fox. Apparently the Public Access television a little better
than that.
Speaker 6 (25:58):
Maybe the PAC twelve is apparently going to have a
streaming deal with Apple TV. Oh wow, it includes incentivized tiars.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Yes, they get their own Apple products as well part.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
Of the deal. Yeah, I'm gonna guess no one's impressed
with that.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
No Apple offered the PAC ten and the PAC twelve
commission I think they offered like a new iPhone, And
he said, Okay, I'll take that. We've got a deal.
I get a new iPhone every year and that is wonderful.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
So the PAC twelve is walking on frozen ice and
it is cracking underneath their feet.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
They have to reinvent themselves, the PAC twelve. How they
will do that is a great mystery. But the Big
twelve was on life support a couple of years ago.
And now they're at the Big twelve with Oklahoma gone,
Texas gone, going to the to the Southeastern Conference here
and they're gonna be okay because Arizona's going to leave
the PAC twelve.
Speaker 6 (26:56):
And was it once upon a time Texas and Oklahoma
were rumored to go to the Package?
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yes, yes, about twenty years ago.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
How things have changed.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Yeah, that was back when USC was running rampant with
Pete Carroll and they were dominating college football and all
that back in the day. It is the Bayet Mather Show.
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darnedest things. We take it out to southern California, not
for the Rams or the Chargers. That's where the Dallas
Cowboys traveling party is hanging out at And Cowboys have
a nose tackle named I believe his name is Mazzi Smith.
I believe that's how you pronounced the guy's name. He's
(27:49):
a rookie. We don't know his name it anyway, He's
a Cowboys rookie. And this guy's getting hyped up. They
think this guy. Of course, the Cowboys never hype anybody
up there. They're like, Oh, this guy's gonna be amazing.
And they've tied him to the name in Damakan Sue,
the boy named Sue who blocked me on Twitter because
of I can't get into that right now anyway. So
(28:10):
he did an interview this week, the first round pick
of the Dallas Cowboys, and he revealed that he does
not do no talking. He said to a TV station
in Dallas. He says, nah, I'm trying to hit you.
I don't got nothing to say. I don't even like football.
(28:32):
I like hitting people, is what he said. The quote there.
I don't even like football, which is a ten out
of ten. I was a twenty sixth overall pick in
the draft, and it reminds me of some of the
coaches that have passed through the hallways here at Fox
Sports Radio that I worked with back in the old days,
(28:54):
who told me that I would be shocked if I
knew how many of their players actually did not like
football but just happened to be good at it and
knew they could make a lot of money at it,
and so they kept doing it. And that was a
long time ago. But you think it's only getting worse.
And I know people are shocked when these guys retire
in training camp. It happens every single year. It's only
(29:16):
gonna get worse that the players can't handle the grind
and they retire and they give up on football and
they go do something else, Which is fine, you're gonna
do something else you're not into it. I don't think
you should do anything you're not into. But imagine how
great this nose tackle for the Cowboys must be. That
he doesn't even like football and the Cowboys drafted him
in the first round. He's that good. I was go
to the phones and Jordan is in Houston and Jordan
(29:40):
is up next. It is the Ben Maler Show on Fox.
Hello Jordan, Jordan. If I was any better, I'd be
a Texan, but not a Houston Texan because they're still
gonna stink.
Speaker 9 (29:53):
Oh yeah, Texans.
Speaker 7 (29:55):
It's gonna be a while.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Yeah. So what's on your mind here, Jordan?
Speaker 4 (30:00):
So?
Speaker 9 (30:01):
Yeah, I'm a cheaters fan. Mike Indolence, I guess you
could say that I trade it a long time ago.
Y'all t ready for Josh Fields for a Cuban named
Jordan Alvarez.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Yes, that was That was great, which would have been
fine if the Astros had not cheated in the World Series, but.
Speaker 7 (30:19):
They everybody cheated.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Are you using the you're using the you're you're using
the everybody did it?
Speaker 5 (30:26):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah, next time? I mean, I mean, do you ever
you drive? You're driving right now? Are you in your
car right now?
Speaker 9 (30:32):
Yeah, I'm I'm on my way home all right?
Speaker 10 (30:34):
Work?
Speaker 1 (30:34):
So you probably go over the speed limit every once
in a while, we all do, right, Yeah, you go
over right, So you get pulled over by the cop.
Tell the cop listen, I was speeding, but everyone else
was doing it. See if you still get a ticket
it's not irrelevant. Uh, that is called, as my friend
(30:57):
William Shatner said, checkmate is what that's called. All right,
so listen. I will give you an opportunity. I will
give you an opportunity. Now, Johan, I would like you
to list. I want you to list all the list
list all the players on the astros who cheated that
were punished, and list their punishment. And I'll just sit
here and wait.
Speaker 9 (31:14):
Go ahead, and then half the players, y'all sign the
player everybody else Yankees have a player from the team
and everybody loves them. Now, so what's that doesn't make
that doesn't make sense?
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Is it? Curse night on the show? Is uh? And Jordan,
thank you for listening. First of all, I appreciate your listenership.
It does mean a lot. And you'd think there would
be no one listening to us in Houston because of
my commentary. Shockingly, we do very well in Houston, which
tells us that people love me bashing the cheaters. But
(31:50):
there's a there's a phrase that we have in the
radio business. The first person to curse loses the argument.
So Jordan, you lost the argument. Congratulateations, be careful on
the way home. And don't speed. But if you do
get pulled over, tell the officer it's okay, officer. Everyone
else was doing it. And just see what happens. Just
let me know. Report back to me. I want to
(32:12):
know what they say. We'll have mallard to the third degree.
Mallard of the third degree. That's coming up in a
couple of minutes time. Now for the instant trivia. As
we cross into the month of August, Today's the second
of August on your calendar, on your phone or your
watch or whatever. So with that being said, the Marlins,
a slap hitting phenom, Luis arise. A three eighty one
(32:36):
average he had. That is the highest average for a
qualified batter entering August since Blank. Louis arise, the Marlins
a three eighty one batting average heading into the first
day of August, the highest batting average for a qualified
batter entering the month of August since Blank. That is
(32:57):
the int trevia, the answer to the third degree. We'll
get to it. We'll do it next.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
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Speaker 1 (33:43):
Maland of a third degree coming up. Time now for
the insta trivia pathetic attempt to convince you to listen
a couple minutes longer. It appears to have worked. The
Miami Marlins got a pretty good player from the Minnesota
Twins named Luis a rise three eight batting average that
is the highest average for a qualified hitter entering the
(34:04):
month of August since blank, you gotta fill in the
blank and does anyone know the correct answer? And milkoln
Mike in Colorado says it's the South version of plastered
Paul Jordan from boostun that that's the answer. Bean Bootmaker,
Bob's going old school television, the professor and Mary Anne,
(34:27):
that's his answer. The newly retired l. A. Ram Sony
Michelle from Cowboy Killer. Who else do we have got?
Wade Boggs from Seawn and Portland bagel Boys going a
good name here? Ul Washington, old school royal from back
in the day. Alf the Alien Opiner from Springfield, Mass says,
(34:50):
Tug McGraw is the correct answer. Well, that's quite the quote,
considering what happened to Tug McGraw. Sammy Pink Sosa guess
by Miguel on fire page, Dan Marlon Bird the bird
is the word from fields of Green, that's his answer.
Robin Minnesota, the very kind Robin Minnesota, who knows where
all the good delis are going with George Brett as
(35:12):
his selection. Stevie Meatballs going with Brian Finley as the answer.
I think that's what he meant. Robbie the Mariner fan
going with Jordan in Houston driving the clown car as
the answer. Jeremy and Minnesota says the great Kirby Pucket.
Let's go twins, Eddie, it is not the lion Oder
(35:32):
Shield's guest by Kyle or Michael Cage from Shane and
to Moyne. Do you have the answer?
Speaker 6 (35:37):
I do. It is a former New York Mets infielder
Edgardo Alfonso.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Guardo Alfonso, oh as incorrect. It is not Todd Benzinger
guest by Sean in the Valley of the Sun. The
correct answer would be none other than No Ma Garcia
Para twenty three years ago, in the year two two thousand.
Speaker 5 (36:02):
It's maller.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
How about that?
Speaker 5 (36:04):
To the third degree, this is one big Ben gets.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Grilled the Coop dal loop justin Coop.
Speaker 10 (36:14):
Jaguars wide receiver Christian Kirk told the media this week
that the team's mindset is to be the NFL's number
one offense. Ben, Do you think the Jags have any
chance at accomplishing that?
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Yes, I've started getting ready for the NFL season, Benny
versus the penny. I've been looking for some of the numbers.
Jacksonville absolutely should be. I don't know number one, but
they were number seven in the NFL last year in
yards per game. They've improved the roster. They believe in
Jacksonville adding Calvin Ridley. It's a gamble to add Calvin Ridley,
but the guy's been a very good player in the
(36:46):
past in Atlanta, so they add him to that offense.
Trevor Lawrence blossomed as the season went on in Jacksonville,
and I love this guy. I don't know if he
can play or not. There's a running back they got
from Auburn in the draft, name Tank Bigsby. What a
great name, Tank Bigsby is. I hope it works out.
So I am going, yes, they have a shot to
(37:07):
be the top offense in the NFL because they play
the Texans and the Colts and those teams stick next.
See what you did there. Yes, you don't have to
camp that out. You don't have to touch up my
work here.
Speaker 6 (37:16):
Thank you.
Speaker 10 (37:17):
When asked to rate quarterbacks and put them in tears,
one anonymous offensive coach said of brock Purty, you play
him on any other team and they lose half their games.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Ben, do you think that's true?
Speaker 4 (37:27):
Now?
Speaker 1 (37:27):
That is brock Purty slander is what that is. And
here's my evidence. Didn't The Niners have Trey Lance at
the beginning of last season and Garoppolo, and they were
not as good as when brock Purty played. So we
saw that offense with other quarterbacks. So I disagree with
that hypothesis. And I'm not gonna tell you that he's
Joe Montana. But brock Perty's fine, he's better he was.
(37:50):
The scouts are upset because he slipped through the cracks.
Speaker 10 (37:52):
Next, Jerry Jones was recently asked again why Jimmy Johnson
still isn't in the Cowboys Ring of Honor. Jones said,
we're gonna be making those announcements. Sounds we go, We'll
just let that go. I've got a couple of coaches
in addition to Jimmy that ought to be in the
Ring of Honor.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
And as Jones just being petty, yes, he went on
Fox a couple of years ago and said, Jimmy Johnson
is gonna get in at this point to put Dave
Wanstead in, Dave Campbell on the Ring of Honor before
before how do we do kobolo? He passes, that is
a when I want take that, Jordan Houston, I won
Hello and welcome. It's our number two. Our two is
in the queue and it's all about words mean words
from Sean Payton, the Broncos coach. How did you process
Nathaniel Hackett's rebuttal to Sean Payton's rand to why is
(00:22):
this coaching code of conduct a thing? And what does
this episode tell us about Nathaniel Hackett as an NFL coach.
We'll talk about all of those things and many more
right now here. It is our number two. Oh what
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have chit chat, will pow wow with Roger Goodell. I'm
sure that will go very well, unless it does not.
But our lead is not about that. It is about
the former coach of Alvin kamaras Sean Payton. His words
(02:15):
still have legs. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. I think
it's a fourth Mallar monologue that we've squeezed out of
the toothpaste tube, the Sean Payton toothpaste tube. So let's
go back to the well one more time. Now. The
Denver broncos head coach, if you have been in a vacuum,
the broncos head coach dropped a cartoon size acme anvil
(02:39):
on top of the head of the former Denver head coach,
Nathaniel Hacket. So we had Aaron Rodgers channel Will Smith
in defending his offensive coach Nathaniel Hackett Rogers did that.
Now we have the man of the hour that has responded.
(03:00):
So I don't know if you saw this or not,
but the Jets offensive coordinator Nathaniel Hackett, the much maligned
Nathaniel Hackett, responding to Sean Payton's blistering analysis and just
going on and on. There we have some audio we're
going to play for you. But he talked about the
(03:21):
crossing of the line, shall we say. Here's the former
Broncos head coach Nathaniel Hackett discussing the code of conduct.
Take a listen.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
I've been involved in this business my whole life, and
as a coach, you know, as a coach's kid. You know,
we live in a glasshouse. We know that we all
live in different rooms. We all got a key for it.
And it's one of those things that there's a code,
there's a way things are done.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Well, that sounds terrible. Everyone's got their own key and
everyone's living in the same house and all that. Here's
more from Nathaniel Hackett. He did not say the name
of Sean Peyton, but he did here say that what
happened was not he was not happy with what happened.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
It's frustrating and it sucks, but we're all susceptible to it.
They're things that you do, mistakes you make, and it
costs you time on the field, cost you your job,
all those things, and I own all that stuff. It's
unfortunate that that had to happen, that the comments that
were made, but hey, they.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Did, okay, So let us discuss how do you process
Nathaniel Hackett's rebuttal to Sean Payton. I've got mentored Academy
Award winner and Prince charming, and we will combine all
of these things together and we are going to make
a rocking chair, which is what Nathaniel Hackett should be
(04:46):
sitting in, not coaching in the NFL anyway. All right,
so number wh Yes, Nathaniel Hackett did not move the
needle in the positive direction. If anything, it went the
other direction. The commentary, you heard a lot of it.
We played most of the good stuff, not all of it,
(05:09):
but most of the good stuff we played for you,
and it went by the books. I saw the thing.
It happened when I was sleeping, but I woke up
and because of the Internet, you can watch these things.
And he never used the coach Sean Payton's name, keeping
his name out of your mouth or in this case,
out of my mouth. Nevertheless, Nathaniel Hackett, it felt like
(05:34):
he was mentored. The rebuttal was choreographed.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
It's like, all right, here's what you needs do, all right,
trying to hit this. Don't say his name, no, no, no,
don't say the man's name. But here's the talking points,
and he just followed the talking points memo. It's like politics,
and every day the Democratic Party sends out talking points
and the Republican Party sends out talking points and they
just repeated all day, regurgitated. That's what Nathaniel Hackett sounded
(05:59):
like to me, that he was given some professional guidance
in this diatribe here, advised on what to say, how
to say it, and all of that. But all of
those statements that he gave out to all of those
statements that Hackett issued, and the other people that have
defended his honor as well, nobody is really addressing the
(06:24):
komodo dragon in the room, and what is the komodo
dragon in the room.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
That Sean Peyton was not lying, He didn't lie with
what he said. And that's the part which is fascinating
to watch everyone scramble around and what a big hullabaloo
this has become. But ultimately, what Sean Payton said was right.
(06:51):
It was the gospel. And I don't know anyone that
would disagree with that unless your last name is Hackett.
If you gave truth sir out and said, Okay, what's
the real story here, what do you think the answers
would be? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:07):
What?
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I would have advised Hackett to become more likable to say,
you know what, Sean Payton's right. I was an absolute embarrassment.
It's not gonna happen again. And I'm lucky I got
another opportunity. And I've been a carpetbagger my entire time
in the NFL, but I'm gonna take ownership of it.
Did Hackett do that Nah? I didn't give a passing
(07:30):
reference to it. But he didn't go all in and
he Hackett made a great choice. A couple of years
ago he latched on to Aaron Rodgers as the caboose
of the Aaron Rodgers train. True, and that's worked out.
Remember he has fired in Jacksonville for incompetence and in
subordination with the Jacksonville offense. They fired his ass and
then Hackett went to Green Bay latched on to Rogers,
(07:53):
riding his coat tails. And then when he went to Denver.
The whole point of the Denver Broncos hiring Nathaniel Hackett
to whoo Aaron Rodgers. We know how that went. The
Broncos didn't get Rogers, they got the consolation prize in
Russell Wilson. They won four games. That was it with Hackett.
He went four and eleven. He got let go before
the final couple of games. Now page two here, why
(08:17):
is this coaching code? Breaking the code? Why is this
a thing? Serious question?
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Now?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I know it's there, we talked about it. It's not
like it's a shocking revelation. I get that. But I'm
gonna tell you my theory on this. So my theory is,
here's my hypothesis. The coaching code of conduct don't break
the code. That is because of plausible noiability. That's what
(08:45):
the coaches have right. Being dishonest, which coaches do, speaking
in white lies and stretching the truth and those kind
of things allows them to be slippery like an eel,
very slippery. And it was the Classic Academy Award winning
actor Jack Nicholson and a few good men who had
(09:07):
one of the great lines in cinema in the last
couple generations when he said, you can't handle the truth.
And that's really what the code of conduct is all about,
the code of coaches, the brotherhood of coaches and all that.
That's the reality of the situation in a nutshell, that
you get all the perks being a coach and get
good money and you're not actually playing in the games.
(09:28):
You're not getting your head bashed in turned into scrambled eggs.
Your brain doesn't look like that. So you do that
and you dodge direct criticism because no other coaches are
allowed to criticize you because it would break the code.
These guys go around acting like these coaches, like slime
bag bureaucrats, is what they do. The way they operate there,
it's fascinating to me. There's a phrase in the UK
(09:52):
they call them porky pies, and that's what a lot
of these coaches love to serve up here. Everything is camouflaged,
everything is guarded and all that. And the good news
is we have Dakota rings here that we can decode
a lot of the noise. We can decode that. Now,
final point, what does this latest episode tell us about
(10:15):
Nathaniel Hackett. So he heard some of the clips, not
all of them, but some of the clips from the
Jets offensive coach talking about the situation. So to me,
what it tells us is that I'll go first, Nathaniel Hacket.
What he lacks as a head coach, he makes up
for in personality. Now I've ever met the man. He
(10:38):
must be like Prince Charming. He's a snake charmer. He
must be because he sucks as a coach. So think
about how amazing this guy must be to hang out
with Nathaniel. Hey, that's my thought. Like all these guys
love him, the players in Green Bay, they love him.
He keeps getting jobs, although a lot of that is
just nepotism. Most of it's nepotism. Here's the way I
(11:01):
look at Nathanian Hackett. If his father was a plumber,
he would have been an apprentice plumber. His father happened
to be a football coach, so he became a football coach.
If his father was a sanitation worker, then Nathaniel Hacket
will be a trash man. He went into the family business.
That's what he did. He's not good at it, but
(11:23):
he's a great guy. He's the kind of guy you
want to have at the company picnic, at the at
the barbecue, you want to have Nathaniel Hackett. They're telling
stories and jokes and making animal sounds. That's that's what
you want. Prince Charming, That's what I'm going with. Prince Joum, charismatic,
debon air, friendly and all of those things and so.
(11:45):
But he's not a sympathetic figure, is he. I don't
have him as a sympathetic figure on my scorecard. Maybe
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Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah, been about Nathaniel Hackett and his commentary. As the
story continues to turn over these comments made by Sean Payton,
and it's a game of he said, he said supermarket.
Steve writes in he says, I love the juxtaposition of you,
Ben standing next to all these former newspaper writers who
(15:20):
wrote articles about how radio was a dying industry. Yes,
there is a there's a bit of irony that many
of my old pals who were newspaper columnists and wrote
many stories about how radio was dying, did not realize
that their building was on fire, did not put the
fire out as the newspaper burned down. Yeah, and Nick
(15:41):
at others, radio has been better, it's getting better. But
the good thing about radio, unlike the newspaper business, who
hasn't been able to make money from online content consistently,
because you can get pretty much the same thing anywhere,
the radio companies, for the most part of embraced podcasting,
so you get double your pleasure, double your fun to
do the show and then his podcast and all that
(16:02):
inca Tera writes and said, Nathaniel Hackett really say that
Sean Payton's true comments cost him time on the field,
so he can't think straight anymore. Is there any other
way to read into that? Please explain. Yeah. So the
way I read that in Kota is Nathaniel Hackett was
(16:23):
upset because he was playing rock scissors paper with some
of the offensive linemen for the Jets, and then the
PR guy for the Jets came over and said, you
gotta talk to the media. Is I'm doing the rocks
paper scissors, I can't be interrupted. And then Nathaniel he
thought he was really creative because he added dynamite, and
normally it is this rock paper scissors, but he then
added the dynamite and that was like next layer. That
(16:46):
was next layer. The Russian kid says, I have no
comment regarding the last male of monologue. So I'm just
gonna stare at pictures I took five minutes ago of
the moon. Well it's pretty good. It's a solid, solid camera.
You got that Russian kid? You I don't know is
that your phone? Is that a special camera? I don't know,
he said, I guess it's a special camera. Let's go
(17:06):
to the phones and we'll say hello to a man
who was caught up in a major show scandal. And
he's still calling up here, and many people very upset
with this man, saying he should be fed from the show.
Well you can't see wait wait wait, wait, very very sir,
scratch off. You understand you can't say what you just said.
Speaker 7 (17:30):
Some gets parted. Okay, I've been trying to do this
for a long time and I keep forgetting it. Ohio, Sam,
how you doing, buddy?
Speaker 4 (17:36):
No?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
No, you you started to call by cursing.
Speaker 7 (17:40):
No, I didn't say nothing wrong with Let's shoot, you
didn't hear what I said.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Does anyone think he said shoot, you're lying again instead
of sir, scratch off your Pinocchio. That's your new name, Pinocchio.
They're gonna make a new movie with Coop and you're
gonna be in Liar Liar too. So congratulations.
Speaker 7 (17:58):
T happing me last night, man, Dull Capany's got but
I think a lot of them. Two guys just good
have slapped me around, and I get out the phone.
Come on and all you matter, militia, listen up real good.
I got Friday night.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
He hang up on me.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Yes, I hung I hung up on you. I did
you No, I hung up on you. You're not You're
not on the air. I hung up on you.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
You're not on the.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
It's all over right now, yeah, yeah, you're This is
not This conversation is not happening. I hung up on
breaking news.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
It's good.
Speaker 7 (18:28):
It's called good.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
No, it's not. It's not good. No one's hearing this.
It's all over.
Speaker 7 (18:32):
You give me your time, give my time, okay.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
My time is very valuable. I get paid one cent
per second.
Speaker 7 (18:39):
Friday night, I'm.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Think phone's dying.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
Did it dying?
Speaker 7 (18:47):
I just come across the state line an art sol
and I always lose. I have to pold my hand.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
That's second wind.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Hard to believe. The cell reception on the state line
between Arkansas Missouri is not good. I can't believe that I.
Speaker 7 (18:56):
Have a little spot right there bright you know, and
uh California on that meet and greet, man, i'd like
to see it all. I got a few more than
three hundred dollars.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Why don't you drive out and you can be part
of the Malor meet and greet.
Speaker 7 (19:07):
I'd love to come out to see you guys.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
Man.
Speaker 7 (19:09):
I go down at the pawn shop banner.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yes, I'm gonna go out to California. I'll stop at
the pawn shop in Vegas and then I'll keep going
to California. Why don't you just hitchhike to California. That
would be fun? What could go wrong with that? That
would that would be great?
Speaker 7 (19:27):
I talked about buddy. Oh here, I tell you being
you got to say something real quick. You gotta just
say hi, Okay, somebody's listening to you right.
Speaker 8 (19:35):
Now, your show.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
I'm glad someone's listening, because if they were not listening,
we'd have problems.
Speaker 7 (19:41):
Yes, brand new listener. He's from England, England, the country
England is.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
His name is his name? His name Terry.
Speaker 7 (19:49):
He lives at Dallas, Texas. Truck driver now and he's
way back. He's a big, old stout dude. He knows
who he is. I can't miss his name. I can't
remember the same. He wants me to turn him onto
your show. I said, I'm on hold right now, waiting
to get on a minor show. He said, what are
you talking about? I said, a Ben Malors show out
of California.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Yeah, he's not there right now.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Man, listen in man.
Speaker 7 (20:08):
But he's from England.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
I can't give him a shout out. You didn't know,
you don't know his name.
Speaker 7 (20:13):
Yeah, just said the big stout teller man that is
from He locks the NBA. He don't like much football,
I said, you an askho fan? He said no, I
like MBA.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Good, good, good, as long as he doesn't like the cheaters.
All right, Well, listen, hello to you, welcome whoever you are.
Thank you call in say hello and we appreciate it.
Let's go to Andre in the Commonwealth. Who's next? It
is the Ben Malors Show. As we roll on? Hello, Andre, Hey.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
What's going on? Ben? Thanks for taking Nicole. Listen. You're
talking about this Sean Payton's Nathaniel Hackett situation we have
going on with a little bit of too much honesty.
You know, Sean Payton had that elixir. You know, we
kind of forgot his administrative rolling, his role as a
four star general and started speaking from the heart instead
(21:00):
of being more strategic. But Ben, listen, I think this
is based on effect. You know, you know what Denver
Broncos are in the power rankings. Yeah, this was surprising me.
Twenty third, twenty third in the Power rankers. People aren't
sold on this.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Hole on this well, well, now, Andre, you know what
you can do with power rankings and toilet paper. You
can do the same thing. You can wipe your tukis
with power rankings, and uh yeah that power rankings are
a scam, A scam, not one I'm against doing. By
the way, if you want me to do power rankings,
(21:33):
I'll do power rings. You know, I got Eugenie in Chicago.
Loves power rankings. He always wants lists, He loves that
kind of stuff. Anyway, go ahead on you. You are
you're a defender of Nathaniel Hackets and competence. You like
that this guy is been guilty of malfeasance and continues
to work in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Yeah, but not so much about Hackett. I'm concerned. I'm
frankly concerned about Sean Payton because we like ten.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Million dollars a year. Who cares about Sean Payton. It's fine.
Then if he sucks, he'll go back to Fox and
do television.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Yeah. Yeah, so he's playing with house money, so we
can go out there and do whatever the heck you want.
But some people look at Sean Kayton Peyton and think
he's a competent football coach. And we have questions about that.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
For the reason I said ten million, he's actually the
chatter is he's getting closer to twenty million per year
per season. He's getting that Walmart money exactly.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Man, you were thinking of you you were talking about
that sinley coated paper there, you know, And that's what
that twenty million dollars is to the Walton family. All right,
that's a couple of pennies in the jar there for
tip money, you know what I mean. You get like
a dollar and change and tip, you know, back from
the store. You know, you just go that in the
tip jar. That's what that twenty million dollars is to
the Walton family. So yeah, Sean Payton, you're gonna be
(22:51):
doing good and living the.
Speaker 7 (22:52):
Life of luxury.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
But some people look at you as a respectable football coach,
and that's coming into question based on the fact that
the New New York Jets are ran twelve. Now, you
don't much.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I don't care. It means nothing. It's it's an opinion base.
I like to actually see the teams play and all
the teams start out the same and all that nonsense.
I don't I don't care about powering is somebody's opinion.
I have my own opinions. I don't need somebody else's
opinion to tell me what to think.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Sure, but when you look, when you're when you're looking
at futures and the people in the desert in Las
Vegas and those things. Ten two. Just like with your
rankings for players, you know, Peyton Manning was the number
one ranked high school player in America. Oh, rankings don't
mean anything. Well, it turned out pretty good.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Grand Yeah, well, you brought that up because it valids
its confirmation bias. What about the other players that were
ranked highly that never made it. You don't bring those
guys up because it doesn't fit the narrative.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Point taken.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
But I scored a point against Andre Yes, yes he
scored many points.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
But this has to do.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Listen, Sean Pattin, sum it up, Sum it up right now,
give me one brilliant final take. Here we go.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Here's the final take. My man at Oderon is over
there on the beach, suns out, guns out, looking good
with his beautiful fiance left football. He's having a ball
in his next career. That's where Sean Payton's gonna be
ending up in two three years. If he keeps up
with this foolishness, people look at him as respectable football coach.
He's gonna be on the beach somewhere with him, you know,
probably miserable because a lot of these guys are miserable
(24:17):
when they leave the game because he didn't keep the
main thing, the main thing. That's the point, Sean Payton.
Shut your mouth, as Tom Brady says, well done is
better than well said.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Thanks taking the time there he goes, Andre uh uh
de Vaughn writes and he says, sir, scratch and sniff
makes less sense than the Boston Burper. Wow, that is
It's impressive. What a tough loss for the Boston Burper
and the Mallard Palooza talent show man. Great performance. Did
the Mallard oath ended up falling down at the very
(24:48):
end there? Bagel Boy writes and says, Hackett is a boob.
He enjoyed the Mallord monologue. Thank you Bagel Boy, having
everything Bagel.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
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Speaker 8 (25:04):
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Speaker 6 (25:35):
So we talked about this yesterday briefly, but it was
supposedly a big day for the PAC twelve, their commissioner
presenting the TV deal for Yeah, conference.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
You got to deal with NBC or CBS or ABC
or Fox. Apparently the Public Access television a little better
than that.
Speaker 6 (25:58):
Maybe the PAC twelve is apparently going to have a
streaming deal with Apple TV. Oh wow, it includes incentivized tiars.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Yes, they get their own Apple products as well part.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
Of the deal. Yeah, I'm gonna guess no one's impressed
with that.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
No Apple offered the PAC ten and the PAC twelve
commission I think they offered like a new iPhone, And
he said, Okay, I'll take that. We've got a deal.
I get a new iPhone every year and that is wonderful.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
So the PAC twelve is walking on frozen ice and
it is cracking underneath their feet.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
They have to reinvent themselves, the PAC twelve. How they
will do that is a great mystery. But the Big
twelve was on life support a couple of years ago.
And now they're at the Big twelve with Oklahoma gone,
Texas gone, going to the to the Southeastern Conference here
and they're gonna be okay because Arizona's going to leave
the PAC twelve.
Speaker 6 (26:56):
And was it once upon a time Texas and Oklahoma
were rumored to go to the Package?
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yes, yes, about twenty years ago.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
How things have changed.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Yeah, that was back when USC was running rampant with
Pete Carroll and they were dominating college football and all
that back in the day. It is the Bayet Mather Show.
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save at Progressive dot Com. So NFL rookies say the
darnedest things. We take it out to southern California, not
for the Rams or the Chargers. That's where the Dallas
Cowboys traveling party is hanging out at And Cowboys have
a nose tackle named I believe his name is Mazzi Smith.
I believe that's how you pronounced the guy's name. He's
(27:49):
a rookie. We don't know his name it anyway, He's
a Cowboys rookie. And this guy's getting hyped up. They
think this guy. Of course, the Cowboys never hype anybody
up there. They're like, Oh, this guy's gonna be amazing.
And they've tied him to the name in Damakan Sue,
the boy named Sue who blocked me on Twitter because
of I can't get into that right now anyway. So
(28:10):
he did an interview this week, the first round pick
of the Dallas Cowboys, and he revealed that he does
not do no talking. He said to a TV station
in Dallas. He says, nah, I'm trying to hit you.
I don't got nothing to say. I don't even like football.
(28:32):
I like hitting people, is what he said. The quote there.
I don't even like football, which is a ten out
of ten. I was a twenty sixth overall pick in
the draft, and it reminds me of some of the
coaches that have passed through the hallways here at Fox
Sports Radio that I worked with back in the old days,
(28:54):
who told me that I would be shocked if I
knew how many of their players actually did not like
football but just happened to be good at it and
knew they could make a lot of money at it,
and so they kept doing it. And that was a
long time ago. But you think it's only getting worse.
And I know people are shocked when these guys retire
in training camp. It happens every single year. It's only
(29:16):
gonna get worse that the players can't handle the grind
and they retire and they give up on football and
they go do something else, Which is fine, you're gonna
do something else you're not into it. I don't think
you should do anything you're not into. But imagine how
great this nose tackle for the Cowboys must be. That
he doesn't even like football and the Cowboys drafted him
in the first round. He's that good. I was go
to the phones and Jordan is in Houston and Jordan
(29:40):
is up next. It is the Ben Maler Show on Fox.
Hello Jordan, Jordan. If I was any better, I'd be
a Texan, but not a Houston Texan because they're still
gonna stink.
Speaker 9 (29:53):
Oh yeah, Texans.
Speaker 7 (29:55):
It's gonna be a while.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Yeah. So what's on your mind here, Jordan?
Speaker 4 (30:00):
So?
Speaker 9 (30:01):
Yeah, I'm a cheaters fan. Mike Indolence, I guess you
could say that I trade it a long time ago.
Y'all t ready for Josh Fields for a Cuban named
Jordan Alvarez.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Yes, that was That was great, which would have been
fine if the Astros had not cheated in the World Series, but.
Speaker 7 (30:19):
They everybody cheated.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Are you using the you're using the you're you're using
the everybody did it?
Speaker 5 (30:26):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah, next time? I mean, I mean, do you ever
you drive? You're driving right now? Are you in your
car right now?
Speaker 9 (30:32):
Yeah, I'm I'm on my way home all right?
Speaker 10 (30:34):
Work?
Speaker 1 (30:34):
So you probably go over the speed limit every once
in a while, we all do, right, Yeah, you go
over right, So you get pulled over by the cop.
Tell the cop listen, I was speeding, but everyone else
was doing it. See if you still get a ticket
it's not irrelevant. Uh, that is called, as my friend
(30:57):
William Shatner said, checkmate is what that's called. All right,
so listen. I will give you an opportunity. I will
give you an opportunity. Now, Johan, I would like you
to list. I want you to list all the list
list all the players on the astros who cheated that
were punished, and list their punishment. And I'll just sit
here and wait.
Speaker 9 (31:14):
Go ahead, and then half the players, y'all sign the
player everybody else Yankees have a player from the team
and everybody loves them. Now, so what's that doesn't make
that doesn't make sense?
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Is it? Curse night on the show? Is uh? And Jordan,
thank you for listening. First of all, I appreciate your listenership.
It does mean a lot. And you'd think there would
be no one listening to us in Houston because of
my commentary. Shockingly, we do very well in Houston, which
tells us that people love me bashing the cheaters. But
(31:50):
there's a there's a phrase that we have in the
radio business. The first person to curse loses the argument.
So Jordan, you lost the argument. Congratulateations, be careful on
the way home. And don't speed. But if you do
get pulled over, tell the officer it's okay, officer. Everyone
else was doing it. And just see what happens. Just
let me know. Report back to me. I want to
(32:12):
know what they say. We'll have mallard to the third degree.
Mallard of the third degree. That's coming up in a
couple of minutes time. Now for the instant trivia. As
we cross into the month of August, Today's the second
of August on your calendar, on your phone or your
watch or whatever. So with that being said, the Marlins,
a slap hitting phenom, Luis arise. A three eighty one
(32:36):
average he had. That is the highest average for a
qualified batter entering August since Blank. Louis arise, the Marlins
a three eighty one batting average heading into the first
day of August, the highest batting average for a qualified
batter entering the month of August since Blank. That is
(32:57):
the int trevia, the answer to the third degree. We'll
get to it. We'll do it next.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
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He's the liar, liar and the menace of the Fox
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(33:35):
and he's at uh bronco fan at I'll live from
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Speaker 1 (33:43):
Maland of a third degree coming up. Time now for
the insta trivia pathetic attempt to convince you to listen
a couple minutes longer. It appears to have worked. The
Miami Marlins got a pretty good player from the Minnesota
Twins named Luis a rise three eight batting average that
is the highest average for a qualified hitter entering the
(34:04):
month of August since blank, you gotta fill in the
blank and does anyone know the correct answer? And milkoln
Mike in Colorado says it's the South version of plastered
Paul Jordan from boostun that that's the answer. Bean Bootmaker,
Bob's going old school television, the professor and Mary Anne,
(34:27):
that's his answer. The newly retired l. A. Ram Sony
Michelle from Cowboy Killer. Who else do we have got?
Wade Boggs from Seawn and Portland bagel Boys going a
good name here? Ul Washington, old school royal from back
in the day. Alf the Alien Opiner from Springfield, Mass says,
(34:50):
Tug McGraw is the correct answer. Well, that's quite the quote,
considering what happened to Tug McGraw. Sammy Pink Sosa guess
by Miguel on fire page, Dan Marlon Bird the bird
is the word from fields of Green, that's his answer.
Robin Minnesota, the very kind Robin Minnesota, who knows where
all the good delis are going with George Brett as
(35:12):
his selection. Stevie Meatballs going with Brian Finley as the answer.
I think that's what he meant. Robbie the Mariner fan
going with Jordan in Houston driving the clown car as
the answer. Jeremy and Minnesota says the great Kirby Pucket.
Let's go twins, Eddie, it is not the lion Oder
(35:32):
Shield's guest by Kyle or Michael Cage from Shane and
to Moyne. Do you have the answer?
Speaker 6 (35:37):
I do. It is a former New York Mets infielder
Edgardo Alfonso.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Guardo Alfonso, oh as incorrect. It is not Todd Benzinger
guest by Sean in the Valley of the Sun. The
correct answer would be none other than No Ma Garcia
Para twenty three years ago, in the year two two thousand.
Speaker 5 (36:02):
It's maller.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
How about that?
Speaker 5 (36:04):
To the third degree, this is one big Ben gets.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Grilled the Coop dal loop justin Coop.
Speaker 10 (36:14):
Jaguars wide receiver Christian Kirk told the media this week
that the team's mindset is to be the NFL's number
one offense. Ben, Do you think the Jags have any
chance at accomplishing that?
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Yes, I've started getting ready for the NFL season, Benny
versus the penny. I've been looking for some of the numbers.
Jacksonville absolutely should be. I don't know number one, but
they were number seven in the NFL last year in
yards per game. They've improved the roster. They believe in
Jacksonville adding Calvin Ridley. It's a gamble to add Calvin Ridley,
but the guy's been a very good player in the
(36:46):
past in Atlanta, so they add him to that offense.
Trevor Lawrence blossomed as the season went on in Jacksonville,
and I love this guy. I don't know if he
can play or not. There's a running back they got
from Auburn in the draft, name Tank Bigsby. What a
great name, Tank Bigsby is. I hope it works out.
So I am going, yes, they have a shot to
(37:07):
be the top offense in the NFL because they play
the Texans and the Colts and those teams stick next.
See what you did there. Yes, you don't have to
camp that out. You don't have to touch up my
work here.
Speaker 6 (37:16):
Thank you.
Speaker 10 (37:17):
When asked to rate quarterbacks and put them in tears,
one anonymous offensive coach said of brock Purty, you play
him on any other team and they lose half their games.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Ben, do you think that's true?
Speaker 4 (37:27):
Now?
Speaker 1 (37:27):
That is brock Purty slander is what that is. And
here's my evidence. Didn't The Niners have Trey Lance at
the beginning of last season and Garoppolo, and they were
not as good as when brock Purty played. So we
saw that offense with other quarterbacks. So I disagree with
that hypothesis. And I'm not gonna tell you that he's
Joe Montana. But brock Perty's fine, he's better he was.
(37:50):
The scouts are upset because he slipped through the cracks.
Speaker 10 (37:52):
Next, Jerry Jones was recently asked again why Jimmy Johnson
still isn't in the Cowboys Ring of Honor. Jones said,
we're gonna be making those announcements. Sounds we go, We'll
just let that go. I've got a couple of coaches
in addition to Jimmy that ought to be in the
Ring of Honor.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
And as Jones just being petty, yes, he went on
Fox a couple of years ago and said, Jimmy Johnson
is gonna get in at this point to put Dave
Wanstead in, Dave Campbell on the Ring of Honor before
before how do we do kobolo? He passes, that is
a when I want take that, Jordan Houston, I won
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