September 12, 2023 • 39 mins
Ben Maller talks about Aaron Rodgers going down with an ankle injury 4 plays into his Jets debut, whether or not the Jets can contend with Zach Wilson, if Josh Allen will be haunted by his horrible performance, MLB Pick'em, and more!
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Hello and welcome. It's our na Burwae. You have stumbled
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It's the story that everyone is talking about in sports.
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Aaron Rodgers, he goes down with an achilles injury. How
do you digest Aaron Rodgers Achilles injury? Can the Jets
contend for a Super Bowl with Zach Wilson likely to
be the starting quarterback the balance of the year? And
from Buffalo's side of things, will Josh Allen be haunted
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by this particular performance in the opening Monday night football game?
Also the rare and appropriate conversation with the pro football doc.
He will chime in, Man, they spent seventeen years as
a team doctor for the old San Diego Chargers, and
he'll give us his insight on Aaron Rodgers' injury as well.
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in a much anticipated game, did not get a lot
of hype, unless it did. Aaron Rogers, the man of
the Hour, made his much ballyhooed Jets debut against Josh
Allen and the Bills in AFC East Brew Haha on
nine to eleven. Is the NFL never missing the opportunity
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for heartstrings marketing, And they had Rogers run out in
the field and a symbolic moment with the American flag,
and that turns out to be the final time that
Rogers will ever run as a Jet, possibly if you
didn't see the game, perhaps now the Jets. As far
as the game itself, which is secondary, the Jets defense
made a couple of big plays special teams as well.
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They got a break the referees swallowed the whistle on
a clear finalty against the Jets. But it's better story
if the Jets win. And so the Jets do win,
they look the other way and that's how it went.
A rookie return specialist Xavier Gibson returning a punt sixty
five yards, Jets allowed to trip Buffalo players and that's
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how they get the touchdown in overtime as the Jets
fly to a twenty two to sixteen win in that
bonus time. But don't bury the lead, my man. It
was all about Aaron Rodgers going into the game, and
it's all about Aaron Rodgers after the game. The final
score secondary Rogers making his debut there with the Jets,
and it was an unmitigated disaster, but a great story,
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just a great, wonderful story, not for the Jets and
not for Rogers, but just to think about all that
went into this, the months of chatter and speculation, the excitement,
and all of it gone as Aaron Rodgers went down
in a pile thinned five minutes into his New York
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Jets career. I'm talking real games here. It was the
fifth offensive play of the game for the Jets. He
was sacked by Buffalo's Leonard Floyd, the former La Ram
And it didn't look that crazy of a play. It's
sometimes you see a tackle you're like, well, that guy screwed.
That guy's gonna be out for a while. That's not good.
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It wasn't like that though initially Rogers was a little
slow to get up. He went back to the ground
in some pain. He stood up, trainer came out to
look at him, eventually helped him off the field, and
one thing led to another. He went to the medical tent.
He was taken to have an X ray by golf
cart and then was in a walking boot and ruled
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out for the rest of the game. And the news
came down that Robert Salad the Jets all but confirming
that Rogers has had an achilles injury, which means he
will not miss the game next week against the Cowboys.
Only no, no, no, no, no, Aaron Rodgers turn out the
last the parties over. Yeah, just like that. It's all over,
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and Robert Salad giving the equally bad news to Jets
fans that Zach Wilson that's stiff will be the start
of the rest of the season. Yeah, okay, so let
us discuss a lot to discuss the question how do
you digest the Aaron Rodgers achilles injury for the Jets.
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So I've got Vadvillian deloreon an annual membership and we
will combine all of these things together and we are
going to make a migraine headache, which is what the
number one Jets fan, Fireman Ed has right now. He's
got a migraine headache. So yeah, a listen, the Jets
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are the definition of star crawls, be deviled whatever you
want to say that, they're damned if they do and
damned if they don't. So this, while it is a
spectacular plot twist, you always knew that this was a
possibility on the Bengo card. You might not have picked
it on your Bengo card, but it was on the
Bengo card. Here's why Aaron Rodgers is thirty nine years old,
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and that is an age that tends itself to more
intense injuries. Now, despite that, to not even make it
five minutes into the game. And that is a you
didn't complete a pass, That is a Vaudvillian s twist,
a three stooges like poke in the eye. Just think
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you and I have completed the same number of passes
in a regular season game as Aaron Rodgers zero zippo bumpkis.
And there is no guarantee that Rogers will play next season.
There is no guarantee. You don't know how the rehab
is gonna go. You don't know if he's motivated to play,
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if he wants to play. If he does play, how
will he do at that point he will be forty
years old by then and having sat out the balance
of the twenty twenty three season. Now, those questions are
obviously down the line. Right now, we can simply tell
you that the Jets have been barbecued. That is what
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the Jets are, the barbecued Jet, Extra crispy, extra crispy.
Now turning the page, can the Jets contend for the
Super Bowl with Zach Wilson as the quarterback? But you
know the answer to that. You don't need me to
tell you that. You just go down to Walgreens, get
a black sharpie cross out the Jets within X and
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that's it. Zach Wilson, ain't it. He's not the answer.
This win over Buffalo, it was flawed because the Jets
have had that kickoff or the punt return rather taken
back because of penalty. They probably would have won the
game anyway with a field goal, but you have to
get that play reversed. Didn't happen. But the win against
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Buffalo is a pyrrhic victory. It is tantamount to defeat
because you've won the battle, but you've lost the war.
Anything that the Jets were going to do is gonna
be with Aaron Rodgers unlessen I was negative. You've heard me.
I ranted and raved a lot. I was not buying
into the Jets, even with Aaron Rodgers. But if I
was wrong, there's a scenario where I'm wrong. It's that
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Rogers leads the Jets to the Promised Land that has
now been eliminated, and the Jets defense is pretty good.
I'm not gonna sit here and say they're not. But
in order for them to carry Zach Wilson on a
magical carpet ride of a run, they're going to have
to take a spin in a DeLorean from Back to
the Future. They have to set the date to the
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year two thousand. Make sure you go eighty eight miles
an hour. We all saw the movie eighty eight miles
an hour. Make sure you have enough power. And that's
around the last time you could win just purely based
on defense, and that would be the Ravens of two
thousand when they carried the carcass of Trent Dilfer to
a championship. But Zack Wilson is just not that guy,
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palt He's not that guy the Jets. You saw it
in this game. They ran a rudimentary offense against Buffalo,
almost everything at the line of scrimmage. They had no
confidence at all that Zach Wilson would be able to
complete a pass more than within five yards of the
line of scrimmage, either behind the line or ahead of
the line of scrimmage. And the problem is, you can't
complete a lot of passes. The problem, and you don't
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have to be an insider to know this, is that
if you're a defensive coordinator and you go into a
game knowing the other team is not going to throw
the ball more than five yards past the line.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Of scrimmage?
Speaker 1 (09:52):
What do you do defensively? What do you think you
would do defensively? I just playing Madden Football. You would
know what to do, maybe bunch up at the line scrimmage.
But what do I know? I just do the overnight show.
Now the last word here. Normally the better stories in
the losing locker room, and that was the case here
because the Jets are the losers even though they won
the game. But we have double losers. How about the
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Buffalo side. Will Josh Allen be haunted by this performance?
And I am nodding my head. Yes, Things that go
bump in the night, And that was Josh Allen. You
talk about gagging, you talk about coming up tiny, that's
Josh Allen. Holy crap. Josh Allen earned an annual membership
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to the American Kennel Club with that performance. He needs
a flea bath after that performance. And was set up
right Rogers plays five minutes, you're in the lead, just
don't screw up, you win the game. He screwed up right.
Alan was so loosey goosey that he was reckless. And
it's not like the Jets. They're gonna get all the
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credit because their defense but it wasn't because of great
defensive plays. If you watched the game, it was a
cowardly performance by Josh Allen as he was hucking and
chucking the ball up into places. The almost the only
thing possible would have been an interception on a couple
of those throws, which were just absolutely dreadful. So congratulations,
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I hope you wore your helmet, Josh, because you took
a ride on the vomit comet with that performance. There
three interceptions and a loss fumble and the Jets. Now
some of those were deep inside Jets territory, but the
way it works is if you get possession of the
ball off a turnover and then go down and score,
that counts as points off a turnover. The Jets got
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two field goals and a touchdown based on Josh Allen mistakes,
so three scorers in this game for the Jets. After
Josh Allen had given the ball away and since Aaron
Rodgers got hurt, Josh Allen, for a lot of people
will be absolved of criticism. And he said all the
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right things, just my fault, I screwed up and all that,
But that doesn't really make you feel any better because
you're supposed to. You're being paid to the franchise quarterback,
to Bill's mafia, they like lick your toes. You're supposed
to make those plays. I know no one's perfect, but
that was that was far from a perfect performance. That
was like the anti perfect and another blown opportunity that
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there is such a competitive race in theory for the
top spot in the AFC. And you look around here
and Kansas City lost on Thursday night to the Lions. Buffalo.
Did they take advantage. No, the Cincinnati Bengals they lost
to the Cleveland Rounds. That's a that's a sin. Did
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the Bills take advantage No, the Chargers they lost the
game at home. Did Buffalo take advantage No. Josh Allen
got brain freeze. He sucked at a time you cannot suck.
And the result here is the Buffalo Bills go down.
They gout down. And Zach Wilson, who played the balance
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of the game outside the first few minutes, he doesn't
get credited with a win because it goes to Daron Rodgers,
but he played most of the game. Al Right, it
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the number one voice. And when player gets hurt in
the NFL and you want to know what's going on
before the team announces anything, there's only one person to
talk to, and we're gonna talk to that person and
try to get some inside information on what happened to
Aaron Rodgers exactly, because it didn't look all that wacky
when you watch the replay, it seemed like it was
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your pretty standard sack play. Nothing's spectacularly terrible about it,
but Rogers, it sounds like it's gonna be out for
the rest of the year, and we'll just linger on
into the future and we'll get to that, and we
will talk with the pro football doc, doctor David Show.
We'll talk to him. We'll get to that, and we
will do it next.
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Speaker 1 (15:15):
It's Ben Malor, and it is the story everyone's talking
about here. Aaron Rodgers injured in the Monday night game.
It sounds like he is going to be out for
the entire season. He only played about five minutes of
game time for the Jets and they end up winning
the game. But the story is Rogers. It was the
story going in, it's the story going out, and we
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are gonna chat right now. We very rarely do this,
but this is the rare and appropriate opportunity. I love
this guy too. He's great on the radio and hear
him on Fox Sports Radio all the time. From he's
known as Pro Football Doc on social media. It was
a team doctor for seventeen years. This guy was in
charge for an NFL team there in San Diego. And
we welcome in the Pro Football Doca Joub David welcome.
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Let's start with this Aaron Rodgers. It didn't look like
it was that bad a play, the tackle that knocked
him out there when you saw that, did anything stand
out because it didn't stand out to me?
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Well, unfortunately it actually did, and it wasn't even for
you five minutes. It wasn't even five plays. I think
it was his fourth offensive play. And uh, you know,
we looked at all angles of the video. I mean,
I got admit, I was little like getting home. I
was still in scrubbs. I changed out, my phone was
blown up, and rewound and look at the replay. Unfortunately,
by video it seemed very clear. And I never pretend
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that it's a diagnosis because it's just video analysis. But
what we do at Sports Injury Central SIIC score dot
com is we give injury analysis as opposed to injury reporting.
And I studied video for seventeen years when I was
with the Chargers, and we usually post on stuff when
we're ninety five percent certain. I told many reporters who
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called during the game, I was, you know, never want
to say one hundred, but certainly ninety nine. And unfortunately
it seems to be the case. The Jets seemed to
be cursed there. It's really bad news.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah. Is this is this age related? Rogers is thirty nine?
Or is this something that just because of the tackle
it would have happened if he was twenty nine?
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Well, I think the number one thing is related to
the letter Floyd on his back right and what we
call an eccentric load. The number two thing might be
because he had a previous CAF string And could you
then associate a little bit of age to that. Maybe
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the number three or four thing people, I've seen a
lot of speculation about. I wouldn't put it as first
is the artificial turf?
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yeah? What about that? I have seen some of Aaron Rodgers'
former teammates have been very vocal on social media, and
we're talking with the Pro Football doc here. You weren't
san Diego. They had grass there when the charger for there,
the chargers in LA they got turf in.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
LA and all that.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
But how big a deal is that if you were
to say, on a scale of one to ten grass
field versus an artificial turf field, the damage done? You know,
where would there be a five, a six, a seven
turf compared to grass.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Well, you know, you can't say for one hundred percent sure,
but if the sum of all the parts needs to
be ten, you know, or I would say seven is
the mechanism and the defender on his back, two is
the previous calf and perhaps age, and one is the turf.
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In this situation, it can play a role. I'm a
fan of grass. I think grass overall is a little
bit safer, But I don't know that you could just
blame this on the turf.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Yeah, well, thank you for staying up late for us.
What's the timeline? And we don't know exactly what they're
going to diagnose? It sounds like you know pretty sure
what it's going to be. Is there a shot that
dare I say that Jets get to a playoff spot,
which I don't think they're going to do without Aaron Rodgers.
But is there a shot that he could possibly come back?
It's a long way away. Were in the very beginning
of the NFL season.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Here, Well, I think there is a shot. And here's why.
Look we all know about cam Akers early preseason, right
before training camp. Achilles made it back for the playoffs,
but he really wasn't that effective. But remember he's a
running back, Aaron Rodgers as a quarterback, you know he
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can play from the pocket. I'm old enough to remember
Dan Marino limping around, you know, coming back from his
achilles and cruelly for the Jets. This isn't the first
time Vinny Testaverdi back in the day when he was
the heralded new quarterback for the Jets toward his achilles
in Week one. For all intents and purposes, though, Aaron
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Rodgers is done, I suppose for the season with surgery.
I suppose you could envision a scenario so that the
Jets get to the playoffs and he comes back a
little bit. But if the Jets get to the playoffs
with Zach Wilson, how do you switch and put Aaron
Rodgers back in there when he's on one and a
half legs or what have you so for all intents
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and purposes, But I've said on Twitter and otherwise. Look,
I don't know Aaron Rodgers, but I know a lot
of competitive athletes like him. And first of all, I
do think the recovery for a quarterback is pretty straightforward
and the age of thirty nine going on forty should
not be a big deal. But I don't see how
a competitor like Aaron Rodgers wants to go out this way.
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He seems so happy in New York in his new life,
and he seemed excited. I just don't see him just saying, Okay,
this is it, so at least a little glimmer of
hope down the road for Jets fans.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Yeah, And we're talking with doctor David Shall here, pro
football doc on Twitter. And is this the kind of
thing I'm sure the columns already being written right now.
You know, football is so violent. This is something you
can't really end, this kind of injury. I mean, this
is just something you play tackle football. This is the
kind of thing that going to happen from time to time.
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I'm like, correct, there's nothing you can really do to
prevent something like this.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Well, I don't think you can ever prevent all injuries
in football, and you know, as hits goes and tackles go,
it wasn't even that violent. I mean Aaron Rodgers was
struggling to get away and Leonard Floyd was doing his
job and trying to get him down. He ended up
on his back basically, and Aaron Rodgers was trying to
push off and shake him off right and escaped. And
so instead of just Aaron Rodgers body weight, he had
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the bodyweight of two individuals on that one calf slash achilles,
and that is the side that was coming off a
strain in the preseason. I think it's just a combination
of things and bad luck that leads to this, and
unfortunately it is hard to prevent.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
And assuming he does come back next year at age forty,
is this going to be something where he's a half
a step slower now because of this or can he
come back and be the player that he had been
with Green Bay.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
I think he can come back and be the player
he has been. I mean, look, as we all get
older in life, you get a little bit slower. But
I would imagine Aaron Rodgers coming off his achilles is
going to be faster than Tom Brady when Tom Brady
was forty five, and with all due respect, he's still
faster than my guy, Philip Rivers when he was twenty five,
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you know. And so I think he still got a
chance to be quite productive coming off this. Given the position,
and he doesn't make his living with his feet anymore,
he can be mobile enough to get around the pocket
escape and make Aaron Rodgers play, So I have some
optimism of a good return back. A few years ago,
the big Achilles injury was Kevin Durant in basketball, and
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there were a lot of naysayers said he'd never make
it back, to saying the demands for Kevin and Durant
are a lot more than the demands for an Aaron Rodgers.
And I was always confident Durant would come back to
be one hundred percent, and so far he's proved me
right on that. So I have good optimism for Rogers.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
All right, Well, great information. How can people follow you, doc?
I follow you on the Pro Football Doc on Twitter?
How can people track you down?
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Well? At Pro Football Doc on Twitter. But what we
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Speaker 1 (23:48):
For standing up late with us. I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Thank you, joh thank you, thank you, Ben Okay, thank you?
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Are you pro football doc? I love it.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Man.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
If that was if I had to go visit him
at you know, the facility or whatever, it cost me
a fortune. But he, you know, he's kind enough to
come on here and talk about what's going on with
Aaron Rodgers. So he gave his analysis. That's the story
of the night.
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Speaker 2 (24:46):
How about some some arrest news in sports?
Speaker 4 (24:49):
That's all.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Yeah, fun arrest always great, well, not fun for.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
The people arrested. But Rockets guard Kevin Porter Junior arrested
charged with assault this morning in New York City. Incident
involved his girlfriend, who is apparently a former WNBA player
and former All Pro defensive back. Adam Pacman Jones arrested
at Cincinnati Airport. Booked on misdemeanor charges of alcohol intoxication
sort of the conduct and terroristic threatening.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Well, often today when you get arrested, you don't actually
get in any trouble. It used to be when you
got arrested you had some explaining to do, But these days, yeah,
most of the time, it's just, yeah, we look the
other way, and I arbat I did see the Rockets
and I sent this to you. Eddie Rockets released a
prepared statement on Kevin Porter being arrested for apparently beating
the crap out of a woman. His lady friend there said,
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we are in the process of gathering information surrounding the
matter involving Kevin Porter Junior. In a prepared statement of
the team announced we have no further comment at this time.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
And as I told you, and we've talked about many times,
I think every team in professional sports has one of
these sheets and they just leave a space blank for
the name of the player. Yeah, and they just set.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
It up there, even here at Fox US Radio. You know,
if Eddie goes out on a bender and gets in.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Trouble, that could happen.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
That's for sure, well more likely Brian Finley, because I
think Finley's on a bender right now. He sent He
sent this to me, said Zach Wilson. Taking over for
Aaron Rodgers will turn out just like Tom Brady took
over for Drew Brees. Wow. He must be drunk then, Yeah,
he's gotta be. That's ridiculous. My god, he watched all
that tennis. He probably needed to raid the mini bar
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to self medicate. And then Anthony and Anaim says, I
know you're Anthony, and Anam says, I know you're not
a Morning Zoos show, so please do not give me
a birthday shout out. I will not do that, Anthony.
Screw you for even suggesting, you schmuck, that I would
give you an injury, an injury, a a shout out
Morning the Zoo type shout out. So I have injury
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on the mind because Aaron Rodgers got hurt.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Yeah, got heard very very much aware of that.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Areek in Minnesota taking some shot in freud at the
news of Aaron rodgers injuries. This great monologue at the
top of the hour. I know this is a Dick
and Dayton move, but I felt pretty good when I
saw Aaron Rogers was down for the count. I've disliked
him from day one, and it doesn't bother me to
admit it. Sorry, not sorry, so he says. Ryan says
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Aaron Rodgers' final career stats as a Jets player, oh
for two, zero passing yards. The curse of the Jets continues.
He says, well a rod retire, how.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Much ayahuasca do you think he is it consumed? Since
he's gotten home after this, Well, you do what you
have to do it?
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Come on, he is in just a if I called
Joe Rogan up and said, come over, Joe, let's have something. Yeah,
Rogers was actually oh for one right now. He didn't
even get two passing attempts. He was oh for one,
So Ryan's wrong. Rogers' final stat line possibly ever as
Jets quarterback oh for one passing obviously incomplete one sack,
the one that ended his season for ten yards and
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a passer rating of thirty nine point six or Aaron Rogers.
That's the.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
That's a great thing.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
That's the fun stat. When somebody has a passer rating
below thirty nine point six. If you just take every
snap and throw an incomplete pass, spike the ball on
the ground, it's thirty nine point six. It makes no sense, right,
It's the gazy thing in the world. And that's like
the original old school stat, the passer rating stat that's
been around for a pretty large amount of time. And
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there's all kinds of news stats that everyone's you know,
sessed with these days, but that's old school. And it
reminds me of the save rule in baseball a little bit,
where you can come in in a twelve run game
your team winning. But if you pick, if you pitch
three innings the seventh, eighth to ninth, you're credited with
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the save, even though it's a you know twelve, you know,
we're un situation, totally lopsided. In fact, I actually knew
the guy that helped come up with the save rule.
He was a pr guy for the Pittsburgh Pirates named
IRV Kays. It was a radio guy here in LA
at the end of his life, a very nice man.
Irvks was his name. He also famously he worked for
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the Yankees and the Raiders. It was an interesting guy
because he knew, he knew these two titans of that time,
Al Davis and George Steinbrenner. He was friends with both
of them until both of them fired him. But he
told me some amazing stories back in the day about
those guys. But anyway, he was one of the guys
that came up with the saber role. And it was
like the most ridiculous thing that you'd seen. So is
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out simply because the calendar is on the day of
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Kenneth the sports Lama says Captain Caveman Super Markeut Steve's
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Craig Wheelhan is at Craig Wheelahan. No, not Craig really hand.
The correct answer is Mark Bulger. Mark Bulger, who was
part of one of the great drops of all time.
Mike Martz. Yeah it, yeah it, yeah it, yeah but
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Speaker 5 (35:32):
Welcome Andrea, Yes, hi, man, how are you?
Speaker 1 (35:35):
If I was any better, I'd be an Achilles, but
not Aaron Rodgers Achilles because snap crackle pop.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
Yeah. Yeah. You know when it was like right right
eight twenty six Eastern Standard time.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
I mean I had not even I was still eating
my my one meal a day there when this happened here.
I didn't even finished my meal.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
Yeah. No, it was really soon into the game. I
was getting ready myself, and it was like, oh wait,
what just happened? And then I realized a lot more
injuries can occur with mercury retrograde. August twenty thirty September fifteenth,
and I remember when Madison Bumgarner got hurt on his
dirt bike. Steph Curry got hurt during mercury retrograde. But
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be it as it may. I actually looked at the
Jets in Corporation chart for more information when the Jets
were born August fourteenth, nineteen fifty nine, nine fifty am
in New York, and I saw that Uranus is squaring
their son, which is, as you know, expect the unexpected.
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Then I looked at Aaron Rodgers chart, and Uranus is
opposing his moon in Scorpio, and that also is expect
the unexpected emotionally, the moon moves emotions. So here was
Aaron Rodgers, you know, ready to you know, roar and
go onto the field and you know do him.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Well, he did make it on the field, but we're
very happy. His achilles couldna pop all. He was carrying
the flag out on the field. That would have been awkward.
If you want to drop the flag, that would be terrible.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
Like do you have the doctor on right before me?
That was really interesting. I want to follow him. He's
pro football doc on Twitter.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Yeah, he's great.
Speaker 5 (37:13):
I never heard him before. Yeah, so I'm hoping again,
hope that when Jupiter connects to Aaron Rodgers ascended in
Taurus like December January ish, then uh, you know, there'll
be leadership vility and if he can't physically perform, then
maybe he can kind of informally coach and help out
that way because he's still I don't.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
See him as a coach unless he's coaching at the
Ayahuasca Clinic. We're gonna leave with there, but thank you
Andrew and Virgo and service on Twitter. Our friend Andrew
check it in.
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The go great music thanks, thank you.
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Aaron Rodgers, he goes down with an achilles injury. How
do you digest Aaron Rodgers Achilles injury? Can the Jets
contend for a Super Bowl with Zach Wilson likely to
be the starting quarterback the balance of the year? And
from Buffalo's side of things, will Josh Allen be haunted
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in a much anticipated game, did not get a lot
of hype, unless it did. Aaron Rogers, the man of
the Hour, made his much ballyhooed Jets debut against Josh
Allen and the Bills in AFC East Brew Haha on
nine to eleven. Is the NFL never missing the opportunity
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for heartstrings marketing, And they had Rogers run out in
the field and a symbolic moment with the American flag,
and that turns out to be the final time that
Rogers will ever run as a Jet, possibly if you
didn't see the game, perhaps now the Jets. As far
as the game itself, which is secondary, the Jets defense
made a couple of big plays special teams as well.
(02:56):
They got a break the referees swallowed the whistle on
a clear finalty against the Jets. But it's better story
if the Jets win. And so the Jets do win,
they look the other way and that's how it went.
A rookie return specialist Xavier Gibson returning a punt sixty
five yards, Jets allowed to trip Buffalo players and that's
(03:18):
how they get the touchdown in overtime as the Jets
fly to a twenty two to sixteen win in that
bonus time. But don't bury the lead, my man. It
was all about Aaron Rodgers going into the game, and
it's all about Aaron Rodgers after the game. The final
score secondary Rogers making his debut there with the Jets,
and it was an unmitigated disaster, but a great story,
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just a great, wonderful story, not for the Jets and
not for Rogers, but just to think about all that
went into this, the months of chatter and speculation, the excitement,
and all of it gone as Aaron Rodgers went down
in a pile thinned five minutes into his New York
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Jets career. I'm talking real games here. It was the
fifth offensive play of the game for the Jets. He
was sacked by Buffalo's Leonard Floyd, the former La Ram
And it didn't look that crazy of a play. It's
sometimes you see a tackle you're like, well, that guy screwed.
That guy's gonna be out for a while. That's not good.
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It wasn't like that though initially Rogers was a little
slow to get up. He went back to the ground
in some pain. He stood up, trainer came out to
look at him, eventually helped him off the field, and
one thing led to another. He went to the medical tent.
He was taken to have an X ray by golf
cart and then was in a walking boot and ruled
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out for the rest of the game. And the news
came down that Robert Salad the Jets all but confirming
that Rogers has had an achilles injury, which means he
will not miss the game next week against the Cowboys.
Only no, no, no, no, no, Aaron Rodgers turn out the
last the parties over. Yeah, just like that. It's all over,
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and Robert Salad giving the equally bad news to Jets
fans that Zach Wilson that's stiff will be the start
of the rest of the season. Yeah, okay, so let
us discuss a lot to discuss the question how do
you digest the Aaron Rodgers achilles injury for the Jets.
(05:33):
So I've got Vadvillian deloreon an annual membership and we
will combine all of these things together and we are
going to make a migraine headache, which is what the
number one Jets fan, Fireman Ed has right now. He's
got a migraine headache. So yeah, a listen, the Jets
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are the definition of star crawls, be deviled whatever you
want to say that, they're damned if they do and
damned if they don't. So this, while it is a
spectacular plot twist, you always knew that this was a
possibility on the Bengo card. You might not have picked
it on your Bengo card, but it was on the
Bengo card. Here's why Aaron Rodgers is thirty nine years old,
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and that is an age that tends itself to more
intense injuries. Now, despite that, to not even make it
five minutes into the game. And that is a you
didn't complete a pass, That is a Vaudvillian s twist,
a three stooges like poke in the eye. Just think
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you and I have completed the same number of passes
in a regular season game as Aaron Rodgers zero zippo bumpkis.
And there is no guarantee that Rogers will play next season.
There is no guarantee. You don't know how the rehab
is gonna go. You don't know if he's motivated to play,
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if he wants to play. If he does play, how
will he do at that point he will be forty
years old by then and having sat out the balance
of the twenty twenty three season. Now, those questions are
obviously down the line. Right now, we can simply tell
you that the Jets have been barbecued. That is what
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the Jets are, the barbecued Jet, Extra crispy, extra crispy.
Now turning the page, can the Jets contend for the
Super Bowl with Zach Wilson as the quarterback? But you
know the answer to that. You don't need me to
tell you that. You just go down to Walgreens, get
a black sharpie cross out the Jets within X and
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that's it. Zach Wilson, ain't it. He's not the answer.
This win over Buffalo, it was flawed because the Jets
have had that kickoff or the punt return rather taken
back because of penalty. They probably would have won the
game anyway with a field goal, but you have to
get that play reversed. Didn't happen. But the win against
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Buffalo is a pyrrhic victory. It is tantamount to defeat
because you've won the battle, but you've lost the war.
Anything that the Jets were going to do is gonna
be with Aaron Rodgers unlessen I was negative. You've heard me.
I ranted and raved a lot. I was not buying
into the Jets, even with Aaron Rodgers. But if I
was wrong, there's a scenario where I'm wrong. It's that
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Rogers leads the Jets to the Promised Land that has
now been eliminated, and the Jets defense is pretty good.
I'm not gonna sit here and say they're not. But
in order for them to carry Zach Wilson on a
magical carpet ride of a run, they're going to have
to take a spin in a DeLorean from Back to
the Future. They have to set the date to the
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year two thousand. Make sure you go eighty eight miles
an hour. We all saw the movie eighty eight miles
an hour. Make sure you have enough power. And that's
around the last time you could win just purely based
on defense, and that would be the Ravens of two
thousand when they carried the carcass of Trent Dilfer to
a championship. But Zack Wilson is just not that guy,
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palt He's not that guy the Jets. You saw it
in this game. They ran a rudimentary offense against Buffalo,
almost everything at the line of scrimmage. They had no
confidence at all that Zach Wilson would be able to
complete a pass more than within five yards of the
line of scrimmage, either behind the line or ahead of
the line of scrimmage. And the problem is, you can't
complete a lot of passes. The problem, and you don't
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have to be an insider to know this, is that
if you're a defensive coordinator and you go into a
game knowing the other team is not going to throw
the ball more than five yards past the line.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Of scrimmage?
Speaker 1 (09:52):
What do you do defensively? What do you think you
would do defensively? I just playing Madden Football. You would
know what to do, maybe bunch up at the line scrimmage.
But what do I know? I just do the overnight show.
Now the last word here. Normally the better stories in
the losing locker room, and that was the case here
because the Jets are the losers even though they won
the game. But we have double losers. How about the
(10:12):
Buffalo side. Will Josh Allen be haunted by this performance?
And I am nodding my head. Yes, Things that go
bump in the night, And that was Josh Allen. You
talk about gagging, you talk about coming up tiny, that's
Josh Allen. Holy crap. Josh Allen earned an annual membership
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to the American Kennel Club with that performance. He needs
a flea bath after that performance. And was set up
right Rogers plays five minutes, you're in the lead, just
don't screw up, you win the game. He screwed up right.
Alan was so loosey goosey that he was reckless. And
it's not like the Jets. They're gonna get all the
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credit because their defense but it wasn't because of great
defensive plays. If you watched the game, it was a
cowardly performance by Josh Allen as he was hucking and
chucking the ball up into places. The almost the only
thing possible would have been an interception on a couple
of those throws, which were just absolutely dreadful. So congratulations,
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I hope you wore your helmet, Josh, because you took
a ride on the vomit comet with that performance. There
three interceptions and a loss fumble and the Jets. Now
some of those were deep inside Jets territory, but the
way it works is if you get possession of the
ball off a turnover and then go down and score,
that counts as points off a turnover. The Jets got
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two field goals and a touchdown based on Josh Allen mistakes,
so three scorers in this game for the Jets. After
Josh Allen had given the ball away and since Aaron
Rodgers got hurt, Josh Allen, for a lot of people
will be absolved of criticism. And he said all the
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right things, just my fault, I screwed up and all that,
But that doesn't really make you feel any better because
you're supposed to. You're being paid to the franchise quarterback,
to Bill's mafia, they like lick your toes. You're supposed
to make those plays. I know no one's perfect, but
that was that was far from a perfect performance. That
was like the anti perfect and another blown opportunity that
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there is such a competitive race in theory for the
top spot in the AFC. And you look around here
and Kansas City lost on Thursday night to the Lions. Buffalo.
Did they take advantage. No, the Cincinnati Bengals they lost
to the Cleveland Rounds. That's a that's a sin. Did
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the Bills take advantage No, the Chargers they lost the
game at home. Did Buffalo take advantage No. Josh Allen
got brain freeze. He sucked at a time you cannot suck.
And the result here is the Buffalo Bills go down.
They gout down. And Zach Wilson, who played the balance
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of the game outside the first few minutes, he doesn't
get credited with a win because it goes to Daron Rodgers,
but he played most of the game. Al Right, it
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talk to, and we're gonna talk to that person and
try to get some inside information on what happened to
Aaron Rodgers exactly, because it didn't look all that wacky
when you watch the replay, it seemed like it was
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your pretty standard sack play. Nothing's spectacularly terrible about it,
but Rogers, it sounds like it's gonna be out for
the rest of the year, and we'll just linger on
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Speaker 1 (15:15):
It's Ben Malor, and it is the story everyone's talking
about here. Aaron Rodgers injured in the Monday night game.
It sounds like he is going to be out for
the entire season. He only played about five minutes of
game time for the Jets and they end up winning
the game. But the story is Rogers. It was the
story going in, it's the story going out, and we
(15:37):
are gonna chat right now. We very rarely do this,
but this is the rare and appropriate opportunity. I love
this guy too. He's great on the radio and hear
him on Fox Sports Radio all the time. From he's
known as Pro Football Doc on social media. It was
a team doctor for seventeen years. This guy was in
charge for an NFL team there in San Diego. And
we welcome in the Pro Football Doca Joub David welcome.
(16:02):
Let's start with this Aaron Rodgers. It didn't look like
it was that bad a play, the tackle that knocked
him out there when you saw that, did anything stand
out because it didn't stand out to me?
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Well, unfortunately it actually did, and it wasn't even for
you five minutes. It wasn't even five plays. I think
it was his fourth offensive play. And uh, you know,
we looked at all angles of the video. I mean,
I got admit, I was little like getting home. I
was still in scrubbs. I changed out, my phone was
blown up, and rewound and look at the replay. Unfortunately,
by video it seemed very clear. And I never pretend
(16:37):
that it's a diagnosis because it's just video analysis. But
what we do at Sports Injury Central SIIC score dot
com is we give injury analysis as opposed to injury reporting.
And I studied video for seventeen years when I was
with the Chargers, and we usually post on stuff when
we're ninety five percent certain. I told many reporters who
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called during the game, I was, you know, never want
to say one hundred, but certainly ninety nine. And unfortunately
it seems to be the case. The Jets seemed to
be cursed there. It's really bad news.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah. Is this is this age related? Rogers is thirty nine?
Or is this something that just because of the tackle
it would have happened if he was twenty nine?
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Well, I think the number one thing is related to
the letter Floyd on his back right and what we
call an eccentric load. The number two thing might be
because he had a previous CAF string And could you
then associate a little bit of age to that. Maybe
(17:40):
the number three or four thing people, I've seen a
lot of speculation about. I wouldn't put it as first
is the artificial turf?
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yeah? What about that? I have seen some of Aaron Rodgers'
former teammates have been very vocal on social media, and
we're talking with the Pro Football doc here. You weren't
san Diego. They had grass there when the charger for there,
the chargers in LA they got turf in.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
LA and all that.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
But how big a deal is that if you were
to say, on a scale of one to ten grass
field versus an artificial turf field, the damage done? You know,
where would there be a five, a six, a seven
turf compared to grass.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Well, you know, you can't say for one hundred percent sure,
but if the sum of all the parts needs to
be ten, you know, or I would say seven is
the mechanism and the defender on his back, two is
the previous calf and perhaps age, and one is the turf.
(18:42):
In this situation, it can play a role. I'm a
fan of grass. I think grass overall is a little
bit safer, But I don't know that you could just
blame this on the turf.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Yeah, well, thank you for staying up late for us.
What's the timeline? And we don't know exactly what they're
going to diagnose? It sounds like you know pretty sure
what it's going to be. Is there a shot that
dare I say that Jets get to a playoff spot,
which I don't think they're going to do without Aaron Rodgers.
But is there a shot that he could possibly come back?
It's a long way away. Were in the very beginning
of the NFL season.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Here, Well, I think there is a shot. And here's why.
Look we all know about cam Akers early preseason, right
before training camp. Achilles made it back for the playoffs,
but he really wasn't that effective. But remember he's a
running back, Aaron Rodgers as a quarterback, you know he
(19:32):
can play from the pocket. I'm old enough to remember
Dan Marino limping around, you know, coming back from his
achilles and cruelly for the Jets. This isn't the first
time Vinny Testaverdi back in the day when he was
the heralded new quarterback for the Jets toward his achilles
in Week one. For all intents and purposes, though, Aaron
(19:53):
Rodgers is done, I suppose for the season with surgery.
I suppose you could envision a scenario so that the
Jets get to the playoffs and he comes back a
little bit. But if the Jets get to the playoffs
with Zach Wilson, how do you switch and put Aaron
Rodgers back in there when he's on one and a
half legs or what have you so for all intents
(20:14):
and purposes, But I've said on Twitter and otherwise. Look,
I don't know Aaron Rodgers, but I know a lot
of competitive athletes like him. And first of all, I
do think the recovery for a quarterback is pretty straightforward
and the age of thirty nine going on forty should
not be a big deal. But I don't see how
a competitor like Aaron Rodgers wants to go out this way.
(20:36):
He seems so happy in New York in his new life,
and he seemed excited. I just don't see him just saying, Okay,
this is it, so at least a little glimmer of
hope down the road for Jets fans.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Yeah, And we're talking with doctor David Shall here, pro
football doc on Twitter. And is this the kind of
thing I'm sure the columns already being written right now.
You know, football is so violent. This is something you
can't really end, this kind of injury. I mean, this
is just something you play tackle football. This is the
kind of thing that going to happen from time to time.
(21:09):
I'm like, correct, there's nothing you can really do to
prevent something like this.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Well, I don't think you can ever prevent all injuries
in football, and you know, as hits goes and tackles go,
it wasn't even that violent. I mean Aaron Rodgers was
struggling to get away and Leonard Floyd was doing his
job and trying to get him down. He ended up
on his back basically, and Aaron Rodgers was trying to
push off and shake him off right and escaped. And
so instead of just Aaron Rodgers body weight, he had
(21:34):
the bodyweight of two individuals on that one calf slash achilles,
and that is the side that was coming off a
strain in the preseason. I think it's just a combination
of things and bad luck that leads to this, and
unfortunately it is hard to prevent.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
And assuming he does come back next year at age forty,
is this going to be something where he's a half
a step slower now because of this or can he
come back and be the player that he had been
with Green Bay.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
I think he can come back and be the player
he has been. I mean, look, as we all get
older in life, you get a little bit slower. But
I would imagine Aaron Rodgers coming off his achilles is
going to be faster than Tom Brady when Tom Brady
was forty five, and with all due respect, he's still
faster than my guy, Philip Rivers when he was twenty five,
(22:26):
you know. And so I think he still got a
chance to be quite productive coming off this. Given the position,
and he doesn't make his living with his feet anymore,
he can be mobile enough to get around the pocket
escape and make Aaron Rodgers play, So I have some
optimism of a good return back. A few years ago,
the big Achilles injury was Kevin Durant in basketball, and
(22:50):
there were a lot of naysayers said he'd never make
it back, to saying the demands for Kevin and Durant
are a lot more than the demands for an Aaron Rodgers.
And I was always confident Durant would come back to
be one hundred percent, and so far he's proved me
right on that. So I have good optimism for Rogers.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
All right, Well, great information. How can people follow you, doc?
I follow you on the Pro Football Doc on Twitter?
How can people track you down?
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Well? At Pro Football Doc on Twitter. But what we
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We provide injury analysis and we're really The only site
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Speaker 1 (23:48):
For standing up late with us. I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Thank you, joh thank you, thank you, Ben Okay, thank you?
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Are you pro football doc? I love it.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Man.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
If that was if I had to go visit him
at you know, the facility or whatever, it cost me
a fortune. But he, you know, he's kind enough to
come on here and talk about what's going on with
Aaron Rodgers. So he gave his analysis. That's the story
of the night.
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Speaker 2 (24:46):
How about some some arrest news in sports?
Speaker 4 (24:49):
That's all.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Yeah, fun arrest always great, well, not fun for.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
The people arrested. But Rockets guard Kevin Porter Junior arrested
charged with assault this morning in New York City. Incident
involved his girlfriend, who is apparently a former WNBA player
and former All Pro defensive back. Adam Pacman Jones arrested
at Cincinnati Airport. Booked on misdemeanor charges of alcohol intoxication
sort of the conduct and terroristic threatening.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Well, often today when you get arrested, you don't actually
get in any trouble. It used to be when you
got arrested you had some explaining to do, But these days, yeah,
most of the time, it's just, yeah, we look the
other way, and I arbat I did see the Rockets
and I sent this to you. Eddie Rockets released a
prepared statement on Kevin Porter being arrested for apparently beating
the crap out of a woman. His lady friend there said,
(25:36):
we are in the process of gathering information surrounding the
matter involving Kevin Porter Junior. In a prepared statement of
the team announced we have no further comment at this time.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
And as I told you, and we've talked about many times,
I think every team in professional sports has one of
these sheets and they just leave a space blank for
the name of the player. Yeah, and they just set.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
It up there, even here at Fox US Radio. You know,
if Eddie goes out on a bender and gets in.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Trouble, that could happen.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
That's for sure, well more likely Brian Finley, because I
think Finley's on a bender right now. He sent He
sent this to me, said Zach Wilson. Taking over for
Aaron Rodgers will turn out just like Tom Brady took
over for Drew Brees. Wow. He must be drunk then, Yeah,
he's gotta be. That's ridiculous. My god, he watched all
that tennis. He probably needed to raid the mini bar
(26:24):
to self medicate. And then Anthony and Anaim says, I
know you're Anthony, and Anam says, I know you're not
a Morning Zoos show, so please do not give me
a birthday shout out. I will not do that, Anthony.
Screw you for even suggesting, you schmuck, that I would
give you an injury, an injury, a a shout out
Morning the Zoo type shout out. So I have injury
(26:45):
on the mind because Aaron Rodgers got hurt.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Yeah, got heard very very much aware of that.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Areek in Minnesota taking some shot in freud at the
news of Aaron rodgers injuries. This great monologue at the
top of the hour. I know this is a Dick
and Dayton move, but I felt pretty good when I
saw Aaron Rogers was down for the count. I've disliked
him from day one, and it doesn't bother me to
admit it. Sorry, not sorry, so he says. Ryan says
(27:10):
Aaron Rodgers' final career stats as a Jets player, oh
for two, zero passing yards. The curse of the Jets continues.
He says, well a rod retire, how.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Much ayahuasca do you think he is it consumed? Since
he's gotten home after this, Well, you do what you
have to do it?
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Come on, he is in just a if I called
Joe Rogan up and said, come over, Joe, let's have something. Yeah,
Rogers was actually oh for one right now. He didn't
even get two passing attempts. He was oh for one,
So Ryan's wrong. Rogers' final stat line possibly ever as
Jets quarterback oh for one passing obviously incomplete one sack,
the one that ended his season for ten yards and
(27:55):
a passer rating of thirty nine point six or Aaron Rogers.
That's the.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
That's a great thing.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
That's the fun stat. When somebody has a passer rating
below thirty nine point six. If you just take every
snap and throw an incomplete pass, spike the ball on
the ground, it's thirty nine point six. It makes no sense, right,
It's the gazy thing in the world. And that's like
the original old school stat, the passer rating stat that's
been around for a pretty large amount of time. And
(28:28):
there's all kinds of news stats that everyone's you know,
sessed with these days, but that's old school. And it
reminds me of the save rule in baseball a little bit,
where you can come in in a twelve run game
your team winning. But if you pick, if you pitch
three innings the seventh, eighth to ninth, you're credited with
(28:49):
the save, even though it's a you know twelve, you know,
we're un situation, totally lopsided. In fact, I actually knew
the guy that helped come up with the save rule.
He was a pr guy for the Pittsburgh Pirates named
IRV Kays. It was a radio guy here in LA
at the end of his life, a very nice man.
Irvks was his name. He also famously he worked for
(29:11):
the Yankees and the Raiders. It was an interesting guy
because he knew, he knew these two titans of that time,
Al Davis and George Steinbrenner. He was friends with both
of them until both of them fired him. But he
told me some amazing stories back in the day about
those guys. But anyway, he was one of the guys
that came up with the saber role. And it was
like the most ridiculous thing that you'd seen. So is
(29:32):
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the game. Tua Tongue of by Law becoming the fourth
quarterback all time with two games of at least four
hundred and fifty passing yards and three touchdown passes in
their first four career seasons, joining Joe Burrow Patrick Mahomes
and me, who am I? If you know the answer,
(31:02):
send me a message. We'll get to that and we
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Speaker 1 (31:48):
Time half for the who Ami Game, a blatant attempt
to get you listen a little bit longer with a
call also coming up, and we'll have the continuing MLB
pick'em Hear we go with the who Am I?
Speaker 4 (32:01):
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to a tongue of by law, becoming the fourth quarterback
all time to have two games of at least four
(32:22):
hundred and fifty passing yards and three touchdowns and that
in the first four seasons of his career. Understand, you've
got Joe Burrow, Patrick Mahomes and me as the others
again to a tongue of by law, the fourth quarterback
all time to have at least two games of four
hundred and fifty passing yards and three touchdown passes in
(32:44):
their first four career seasons. He joins the Joe Burrow,
Patrick Mahomes and me. Who am I? That is the question?
What is the answer? By the way, Matt the Warrior
Raider fan says his birthday was recently, but he did
not ask for a birthday shout out because you know
that you're not avent in morning Zoo show and he
says he's an adult and he doesn't need a shout
(33:06):
out simply because the calendar is on the day of
the year my mother pushed me out. You're welcome. Well,
thank you, Matt. I do appreciate that. That's very kind
of you to keep that in mind. Let's see, does
anyone know the answer? Here we go? Page down. Cleo
Lemon from rob in Minnesota, the Art of Sports Talk
(33:27):
says Kenny Stabler is the correct answer. A Reek in
Minnesota says Aaron's Achilles. Sharon checks in with Andy Dalton
Eke from Roseville, Minnesota, going with Kurt Warner as his answer.
Kenneth the sports Lama says Captain Caveman Super Markeut Steve's
(33:49):
going with the hefty lefty Jared Lorenzen, who doesn't like
a fat quarterback. We all love fat quarterbacks, and Jared
Lorenzen left us way too soon. Who else do we
have here? Page down, page I'm not gonna read that
one on the air. Let's see. We've got Urban Shocker
from Obscene Dean. We've got Trent Dilfer's carcass guessed by Mike.
(34:11):
That's his answer. Alf the Alien of Piner says, I
am lou Zeeland, master of the boomerang fish that that
is the answer. Who else do we have page Down.
Chubby Dudley from courtesy Flusher Stenson Bennett tossed out by
the Sawman Spurgeon Win a legend from the Vikings, guest
(34:32):
by Fields of Green page Down. Late night Drug tester
says you are birthday girl Emmy Rossom, who is thirty
seven today. Bud Forarrillo. There's an old name from LA
sports media pass guess by malor prop guy. Do you
have an answer? Eddie? Do you have an answer?
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Yes, I believe it's former San Diego Chargers legend Craig Wheelahan.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Craig Wheelhan is at Craig Wheelahan. No, not Craig really hand.
The correct answer is Mark Bulger. Mark Bulger, who was
part of one of the great drops of all time.
Mike Martz. Yeah it, yeah it, yeah it, yeah but
yeah it yeah but yeah but yeah but yeah but
yeah but yeah but yeah but yeah but yeah but
(35:17):
yeah it that whole thing. All let's go to the phones.
We'll say lo to Andrea the sports SORCERESSU is sitting.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
By Bulger is our quarterback.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Yeh but yeah but yeah but yeah ye give it,
yeah it GiB it, yibit, GiB it. Hello Andrea in Berkeley.
Speaker 5 (35:32):
Welcome Andrea, Yes, hi, man, how are you?
Speaker 1 (35:35):
If I was any better, I'd be an Achilles, but
not Aaron Rodgers Achilles because snap crackle pop.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
Yeah. Yeah. You know when it was like right right
eight twenty six Eastern Standard time.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
I mean I had not even I was still eating
my my one meal a day there when this happened here.
I didn't even finished my meal.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
Yeah. No, it was really soon into the game. I
was getting ready myself, and it was like, oh wait,
what just happened? And then I realized a lot more
injuries can occur with mercury retrograde. August twenty thirty September fifteenth,
and I remember when Madison Bumgarner got hurt on his
dirt bike. Steph Curry got hurt during mercury retrograde. But
(36:16):
be it as it may. I actually looked at the
Jets in Corporation chart for more information when the Jets
were born August fourteenth, nineteen fifty nine, nine fifty am
in New York, and I saw that Uranus is squaring
their son, which is, as you know, expect the unexpected.
(36:38):
Then I looked at Aaron Rodgers chart, and Uranus is
opposing his moon in Scorpio, and that also is expect
the unexpected emotionally, the moon moves emotions. So here was
Aaron Rodgers, you know, ready to you know, roar and
go onto the field and you know do him.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Well, he did make it on the field, but we're
very happy. His achilles couldna pop all. He was carrying
the flag out on the field. That would have been awkward.
If you want to drop the flag, that would be terrible.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
Like do you have the doctor on right before me?
That was really interesting. I want to follow him. He's
pro football doc on Twitter.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Yeah, he's great.
Speaker 5 (37:13):
I never heard him before. Yeah, so I'm hoping again,
hope that when Jupiter connects to Aaron Rodgers ascended in
Taurus like December January ish, then uh, you know, there'll
be leadership vility and if he can't physically perform, then
maybe he can kind of informally coach and help out
that way because he's still I don't.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
See him as a coach unless he's coaching at the
Ayahuasca Clinic. We're gonna leave with there, but thank you
Andrew and Virgo and service on Twitter. Our friend Andrew
check it in.
Speaker 5 (37:46):
The go great music thanks, thank you.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
All right, yes we this is Iowa Sam's contribution here. Well,
let's get to a time now for the MLB Picked
hum Our Daily Fantasy game. Whoever won yesterday goes first today.
Unfortunately they were a mistake in the scoring, so somehow
Eddie is going first, and Eddie, we're picking a pitcher
and two hitters for the games on Tuesday night. Whoever
gets the most fantasy points will be declared the winner.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
All right, give me Max Freed.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
But a week pick that is ballig. You should have
picked Young jin Ryu of the Toronto Blue Jays. Now
that is a great pick. Ex Dodger, this guy's a monster.
Go ahead, Cope, Wow, awful pick, great pick. I will
go with chop drop. Why lost them?
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Freddy Peralta okay, Sam Ioa Sam back to back? Sam
John means pitcher and what's like Kyle Schwarber okay, Coobolo
Mookie Betts. I will take Freddie Freeman, Eddie Matt Olsen
and hurry up Alonzo, Julio Rodriguez, my Mariners, Cope, Bryce Harper,
(38:51):
and with the last pick, Iowa Sam, Cody Bellinger. Cody,
there you go. You kind of like the Cubs Iowa. Sam,
I think you do a little bit there. It is
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