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I see that number ten thousand, and I think the
gentleman that called us up, I think it was last
week from Edmonton who was on a bridge and was
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really bad at one of the game shows and he
hung up, and you know, he's trying to listen like
ten thousand times, but he sees that number ten thousand
as Wow, that's impressive. But don't bury the lead, my man.
We're not we're not. Well, you're gonna start in a
place that we rarely, if ever art. But I'm a
man of my word. I said, if things went a
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certain way, we would go there, and I'm here and
I'm perfectly fine with that. I assume you know, as
this is our Sunday night in the Monday Show, Monday
morning and Monday nights. Yeah, a hum dinger of an event.
I'm actually looking forward to this. I'm I'm excited about this.
I'm not this is not the bull crap. You know,
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we hear that that phrase often in what we do
for a living, that the most exciting two words in
sports game seven. Well we have that now because back
on Friday, a domination situation by my Edmonton Oilers not
Eddie's Edminson oil. My Edmonton oilers who dominated the game
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was close? What even close? Came out dominated early and
that was it. They stormed back to even up the
series with Florida three three. And we have editorial control
for now of the show, and so we've decided to
start with with hockey. So Oilers and Panthers winner gets
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to hoist the Stanley Cups. So let us discuss the question,
the obvious question here. And I've been watching these games,
although we haven't done monologues on them. The question is
this what changed for Edmonton to storm back and even
things up. So I've got George Clooney, psychobabble and Grandfather
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Clock and we will combine all of these things together
and we are going to make a pool party, which
is what the Oilers will be doing. They'll be taking
the Stanley Cup and they'll be having a pool party
and they'll toss it around different swimming pools around Canada
and around the North America and around the world and
around the world. So hey, to answer the question what
changed for Edmonton to storm back in this game? The
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Oilers have really simple here. They've stopped sucking at a
time you cannot suck right. You play, They've played batter
They've been better in these last three games. In terms
of what has tangibly changed here. I am not an
NHL pundit, but I did recently stay had a holiday
in Express and this is like an Ocean's eleven style situation.
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What has happened here? Connor McDavid playing the role of
George Clooney or Danny Oceans if you remember that movie
Ocean's eleven, and they have cracked the code. They've cracked
the code on the goaltender for Sergei Bobrovsky of the Panthers.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
There.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Game four was up until now the turning points kind
of obvious. Otherwise the series winning over because the Panthers
won the first three games, but Bobrovsky was so bad
he got pulled from that game in game four, and
he does not appear the man has recovered from that
particular situation going into that game four. He was the
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favorite to be the MVP this series. They cat call
it con smitite, but it's the MVP. Would have been
the MVP if they closed out Game four in a sweep.
And I am told, if I understand this correctly. I believe,
I do that Bobrovski is so shaken up by what
has happened here that he was not even on the
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ice for practice on Sunday. They gave him a mental
day off from Panthers practice, which I don't think that's
a great sign. I don't think that's a great sign. Now, Bobrovski,
who has absolutely malfunctioned in that three games of dominance,
and now he's like a wrestler from Mexico, El Stinko
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of late The Oilers, the team that I'm backing for
this series, my Edmonton Oilers. That eight to one win
in Game four, right, so that was domination. He got pulled, Bobrovski.
But the Oilers have outscored the Panthers eighteen to five
in the last few games. Eighteen to five. It's insane.
Talk about flying through some dark clouds if you're Sergey
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Bobrovski and this Edmonton run. Much like Ocean's eleven. They've
cracked the code. They have cracked the code. Now page
two here, This is this is something I like to
address because I know a lot of dumb people love
to run to this and I'm not going to change
my position. Some of you sent me email over the
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over the weekend. Well you see, you see, man, the oilers,
you know what they have? They got Uncle Mo. Now
do the oilers have all the momentum? Now they don't.
And I'll tell you why they can't have all the
momentum because it doesn't exist in sport. It does not exist.
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In fact, this series is proof there is no such
thing as momentum. There is an example, a living, breathing
example of the fact that momentum is not real. And
yet I still got some email over the weekend, say
wha momentum momentum, momentum, momentum. Okay, so Florida, let's just
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play this out right, bear with me. So Florida is
cruising around. They're driving a Maserati on the Autoban dominated
Panthers had a ten to four edge in goals through
the first three games. In fact, if I remember correctly,
I might have jotted this down. Edmonton did not even
score until the seventy first minute of the series. The
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complete momentum, as you idiots like to say, right, oh,
that all the momentum. So if that's true, if you
believe in momentum, explain this to me. So why would
Florida give that up? Why they had it all, I
mean dominating? Why would they say no to that? Why
would they give it back?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Was it stolen? How did the others get Uncle Mo back?
The answer is they didn't. Okay. Momentum in sport is
an illusion phenomena. It just is. That's the reality, right,
It's not real and momentum And I've known this for
many years, have done this job for a long time.
Momentum is simply something after the fact, an explanation for
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why something happened, the outcome of an event. And it's
sports media cycle babble. It started out in the early
days of sports writing. It was in the vernacular of
sports media, and it's just been repeated. It's kind of
like student athlete. The nc double A came up with
student athlete to get out of paying workers comp because
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people were dying playing football. And they just kept repeating
it over the years and be like, oh, momental it's
it's it's student athlete. You know, it's like momentum. I'll
give you an example, right, Everyone's like, oh, look at
that right now. Edmondon's got all the momentum in the
Stanley Cup. Fine, okay, Fine, So let's say Florida wins,
and I'm not sitting here, say it's over, like there's
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no way Florida. And say Florida wins. Let's say they
win Game seven here on Monday night. Are we gonna
hear all the momentum. No, we're not gonna hear that.
It'll be ignored because it didn't fit the narrative, so
you'll ignore it. Right, The alleged momentum just vanished in
the thin air. But it doesn't. It can't vanish because
it doesn't exist, all right, Now, last word here. Now,
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I always love Game seven because in my profession, it's
the choke that is the greatest, right, that's the thing,
the drama. So I've said for a long time that
the better story is in the losing locker room because
that's where the anger is. That's where the rage is.
When you win, everyone kisses your ass, they love you,
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you're the greatest, and all that stuff. But when you lose,
it's finger pointing, it's talk, it's clicks, behind the scenes talk. Right,
It's like locker room broken, that kind of thing. So
where does the pressure lie heading into Game seven here
in for Edmonton and Florida, and I turned to the
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Grandfather clock, and I look at the Grandfather clock, and
the pendulum is clearly swung in the direction of really
one guy in particular, but an entire team because he
represents that team, and that's Sergey Barbrovski and Florida. Because
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this is the great thing. It's like that movie Men
in Black, and they've got the neuralizer, and if Florida
wins Game seven, then all sins are forgiven. Just won't
talk about this and that's it. He'll get to raise
up the cup the first ever for that franchise, the
Florida Panthers, and if they get that done, everything else
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is erased. And should he fail, there will be stank.
There's not enough Irish spring to wash the stank off
that that will follow him and many of these players
around because this doesn't happen that often. In fact, that
hasn't happened in what eighty years something like that. So
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that's that's where we are on that. But over time,
because we have other stuff to worry about, so like
over time, you don't really remember all the ins and
outs of what happened in a series, or you'll you'll
remember two things. You're gonna remember the turning point, which
at this point is Game four when Bobrovsky got benched,
and you're gonna remember the outcome. Whoever won the series,
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they're not gonna remember much else about this over time.
But for Connor McDavid and the Edmonton hockey team, this
is a loosey, goosey situation. It should be breathe easy, breezy,
breathe easy, and nothing to worry about. If you're playing
with house money. And if you've ever gotten house money,
that's the way to gamble, I mean, cheeze. The eulogies
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have already been written by people like Eddie Garcia that
they're not good enough, they can't win, no chance zero.
All of that has already been written for Edmonton, So
you're you're already pretty much dead according to the experts.
If you're Edmonton here, not good enough, laude roster inferior,
goaltending down the line, fluke run okay. But if Connor
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McDavid gets it done here, if Connor McDavid and the
Oilers win, then he moves up a couple of notches
in the NHL. Book of Legends. This is the fairy
tale type stuff. You win these games. This is a
fairy He was so good he spotted the other team
three games and then they came back and won. So
you can gamble without risk.
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The silly season the gift that keeps giving, often more entertaining,
more engaging then the regular season of the products. So
radio chatter picking up out of the Bay Area over
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the weekend. If you have not been following the big
name at least from years gone by, not based on
recent performance, could be yours if the price is right.
And we're talking about the growing chatter, we always pay
attention to the chatter, the growing chatter that Clay Thompson
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it is a fatal complete that he's going to leave
Golden State. He wants a fresh start. According to the
latest reporting here, even if the Warriors were to make
a competitive offer, he wants to go somewhere else. Many
believe that Thompson will decide to leave regardless. He wants
to go somewhere else and start the next chapter of
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his career and a different environment, detached from the shadow
of Steph Curry, his teammates there, and apparently some friction
behind the scenes between him and some of his teammates
and the front office of the Golden State Warriors. So
let us discuss where are you at on Klay Thompson
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looking to leave Golden State for a fresh start. So
I've got refrigerator, affirmations and astrology, and we will combine
all of these things together and watch out for the
checkered flag flag US up. So number wa this is
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captain obvious, Captain obvious? Why is this being tossed out?
There into the heavens as some kind of new revelation.
Why right, I don't get it. I don't If you
haven't been paying attention, breaking up is hard to do.
They made a song about it. So, as we have
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seen with Klay Thompson cleansing his social media from Warrior
content in recent days, that is an act of hostility.
That is an active hostility, is a passive aggressive, active hostility.
He did it. Now that said, in this particular case,
we go on a case by case basis, it's rather
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easy for Klay Thompson to exit the Bay Area in
one respect. Now what is that respect? You ask? I
will answer. The reality is the Warriors have not even
made an offer to Klay Thompson to contemplate whether or
not he wants to stay. So there is no there
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there for him to come back and stay with Golden State.
And if you look at the Warriors, that is a
team on the way down. Klay Thompson has a shot,
even though he appears to be on his last legs
of cherry picking a good situation, a team that is
a mid level team that's on the way up, and
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he can squeeze out some more success here. But in
terms of Golden State, and if that reporting is accurate,
that there is no offer available for Clay Thompson to
even come back, even if you wanted to on a
minimum type salary. That would mean the refrigerator. The refrigerator
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door has closed, the lights out, the eggs are cooling,
and as an old broadcaster said many years ago, the
butter's getting hard and the jello's jiggling. All of those
things are happening. All of that is happening because talks
are essentially frozen with free agency less than ten days away.
Oh mg, less than ten days away. So exciting, unless
it's not so. Clay has been traveling on the interstate
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for a few weeks now, and it's a one way interstate.
It's not two ways, one way destination unknown. And you
hop in that transfer portal and see where it takes you.
You wish for the best, You wish for the best.
All right now, Page two, Here we head to Gotham.
Why after the noise at the end of last week,
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we talked about it on these airways that Philadelphia was
cooling on PG. Thirteen. They said, no, we cannot handle Pg. Thirteen.
We want a g rated movie. We don't want PG thirteen.
We just want PG. So now we are hearing that
the Knickerbockers are a team to watch, team to I
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love team to watch. How about a team to listen to,
team to stare at, team to ogel. Anyway, the Knicks
are said to be a team to keep an eye
on for Paul George by George. Now, the way that
would work it would have to be a sign in
trade with the people's team, the Clippers. All of this,
(19:40):
of course, depended on PG thirteen opting in to the
final year of his contract. You mentioned even contemplating opting
out of a forty eight and a half million dollar salary.
That's the money forty eight actually forty eight point eight million.
Excuse me, I was off. It's even more than I thought.
Forty eight point eight million is the amount of money
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on the table for Paul George one year after taxes
in California. That's about thirty thousand dollars you can live
on that. Is there a match? Get to the point, please,
Is there a match between Paul George and the knicker Bockers.
So there is a match, but it's not a good one.
It's not a good one. Because in terms of what
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the Knicks are trying to accomplish, Paul George is the
antithesis of Jalen Brunson. Like Jalen Brunson, big game player
plays well, guy rises to the moment. Paul George occasionally
he does right. But I have this one in the
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daily positive Affirmations category for Paul George and the people
around him. You plant the story, you send it out
to your friends, the useful idiots in the media from
Paul George's camp. You toss it out, speak it right,
they have them speak it, and you're trying to help
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manifest your desires. And it sounds to me like Paul
George and the people around him the podcast pe guys
are desperately trying to create a bidding war out of
thin air. They used Philadelphia for a long time that
appears to have not worked out. And now you've got
the Knicks. And while the Clippers, I certainly they are
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open to signing and trading Paul George, they're not married
to George coming back. Well, could be come back, but
it's not like they have to bring him back. It's
not imperative that they bring Paul George back. And they
can replace him with someone like the Marta Rosen or
someone like that, which is pretty much a lateral move
at this particular point. But Paul George, if he plays
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in New York, mark my words, he will be fed
to the wolves. This will not go well. He is
lacking the gennesi quah to handle playing there, and someone
that often sweats a lot when the pressure gets going.
He does not have good deodorant. There's a lot of
sweat that goes on there. He gets dinged up and
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just man, that is not not going to be well.
But I'd be here for it. From a talk radio standpoint,
it'd be great. And I have some of my cousins
who are from New York that like the Knicks and
I can bust their balls, So that would be fun
for me. And Jason Smith, who I see when I
when I'm coming here during the week, I can you know,
he'd be all excited and be like, just wait, you
just wait, you just wait all right now. Final point,
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speaking of washed up players, the theme continues. The epitome
of that would be Chris Paul. Seems like Chris Paul
has a flee up his backside here. He would like
to play for either the Clippers where have we've seen that?
Or the Lakers in twenty twenty four? Question is should
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either of those teams want Chris Paul? All right, So
if the question is should they want him, which I
just said, the answer is no way, Jose, and don't
call me Jose. Now, if the question is will they
want him, the answers yes, see the key word there
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should or will see should no, Because Chris Paul, this
particular point, you stay away, right that just you stay away?
Why would you go there? It's simple astrology. If you
look at the career arc of Chris Paul, it's just
the way it goes. Chris Paul in astrology is a
white dwarf. That is a science term, a white dwarf
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that is a hot, dense remnants of a long dead star.
They call it a white dwarf. That is Chris Paul.
That's where his career is at this particular point. He's
still hanging around and he's got to get out of
his contract where he's right now. So it's not guaranteed
that it'll even be available to go to LA. But
the motivation is also a problem. The word is you know,
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you want to live. It was his home base in
LA He liked when he played with the Clippers. He
got to hang out with a lot of the Hollywood
f's and he likes to hang out with those people,
and so he wants to go back there. His family
likes it. They don't want to live somewhere else. And
so CP three, the stellar core of Chris Paul left behind.
That's that's what's left behind there, the exhaust of the
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star and all that, the gases and whatnot, and that's
where you are. He's a d O n E d
o n E, which means, of course, knowing my luck,
he'll sign with the Clippers. I'd much rather see him
with the Lakers. Boy could that's fun to not only
a higher podcast podcaster, Reddick, but then you bring in
Chris Paul. That would be oh man, that would be
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so good for the Lakers. They got to make that happen.
I mean, listen, why not? And you could how about this?
You could have CP three, Reddick and Lebron all do
the podcast together. The Three Musketeers are podcasting. Who says
no to that?
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How about that to the third degree.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
This is one big Ben gets grail.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
A recent report from the Athletics says that offseason activity
suggests that the Jets are planning to get rid of
GM Joe Douglas and head coach Robert Solid next offseason. Ben,
do you think these guys are both sitting ducks?
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Yeah, depending on Aaron Rodgers. They put all their chips
in Aaron Rodgers Rodgers. After this year, the Jets stink
and Rogers gets hurt. Saal will be a motivational speaker,
Joe Douglas will go back to the Eagles or somewhere else,
and Aaron Rodgers will do a podcast with Joe Rogan.
They're all gone next.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Bryce Harper and shohe Otani are the two front runners
for the NL MVP. Now, if either were to win
the award, they would only be the twelfth players ever
to win MVP three times. Are you putting your money
on either of them?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
I'm not giving it to old Tani because the Dodgers
are a wagon and he's a designated hitter. You can't
get an MVP is a DH. Come on, STARp, at
least plays the field next.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
I was supported over the weekend that Trevor Bauer could
bring legal action against MLB if he remains out of
the league. How do you think that would go over?
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Well, it wouldn't matter. He can't win. You gets a lawsuit,
you can't win. What is his legal standing? It would
I'd like to see him pitching the big biges, but
you you can't win that case. How do we do?
Koop pil that's a win. That is a win, like
the Edmonton Oilers are going to win Game seven on
Monday night.
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Who here was you talking to? Sons? Here some incident advice?
Hold that thought. No one's paid attention to me for
ten whole seconds and if you don't like it, and
away we go. It's the insta advice line onstream radio
and we are off to the race as we go.
Who in the world of sports needs are advice this week? Well,
it's rather obvious. Game seven Stanley Cup Final, it is on, Like,
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don't get calm. So last second advice, Last second advice
to the Oilers or the Panthers on how to approach
game number seven. You're live on the air. When you
hear my voice at eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox,
that's eight seven seven nine nine six six three sixty nine.
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Last second advice to the Oilers and Panthers heading in
to Game seven. Hello, Line one, you're on the Airline one, go,
you'll never.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Win betting against America's team Eddie.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Let's go here we go, overs, here we go. Good
call for you Godline two, you're on the air. Advice.
Last second advice to the Oilers Panthers heading into Game seven.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Fun in time, all that time, I thought Lorena was
a Cindy.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Lafflers so Buddy and Maryland devastated. Not a Cindy Laperfet's way.
You're on the air. See his advice line for the
Oilers and Panthers heading into game seven. Thank you for that.
Line three, Line four, you're on the air. Line four,
Last second advice and the Oilers and Panthers. Line four,
Oh and I like a good fuck all right? Line
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Line five, Hello, line five, The Panthers should take a
quick ship in that polluted French river. Oh yeah, go
go swim in Paris in the poopy all. Line six, Hello,
line six, I love them smacking their all right, I
see he said pucks, He said pucks, he said pucks. Yeah,
all right. A line one you're on. That was angry bilt.
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Line one, Hello, line one, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Ed Linton, Just better win because I'll win money.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Oh yeah, all right, well that's simple enough. Line two,
you're on the air. Advice, last second advice to the
Oilers and Panthers heading into games seven. The greatest thing
we have as sports fans a winner take all Game seven.
I need a ambulance. Okay, well said sir. Okay. A
line three Hello, line three, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
To two requires last car updates it.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Okay, that's a third party guy. Okay, hanging there, sir.
Eventually it will happen. That'll go be dead. A line four, Hello,
line four. What happened to Gang seven in the row
of Derby? Oh that's true, what happened? I don't know.
We have to check on that. A line five, Hello,
line five, Baby officials like me, Robert, he's back Eddie
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two weeks in a row. Our friend from Maine, the
biggest Patriot hater I know this side of Rob Parker.
Line six, Hello, line six, you're on the airline six.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Lucky seven, lucky seven.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Morning. Oh, that's that's the famous line. That's Rick from Maryland, Lorena,
Morning Time says morning Time. Line one, you're on the
airline one. Last second advice to the oilers and panthers
heading into the winner take All Game seven.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Watch video Vegas Golden Knights Game five finals last year.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Well that sounds like our guy in Vegas said he
was hosting the mall of meeting me. Line two, you're
on the airline too, sluck. Okay, all right, there you
go on line three, you're on the air No weed man,
he hasn't called the Hello. Line three, Hey, weed man,
don't go to California.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Live it up online in each.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Okay, you're trying to keep him in mind, keep him
away from California. Line four, Hello, Line four.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
You can't spell Edmondon without ted.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
I like that. It's I learned how small. Line five,
you're on the Airline five.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Hello, plenty of physical cheap shots just like the WNBA.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Okay, very nice, and we'll do one more, only one
more of It's good I'll take credit of not I'll
blame the Cooper who picked the final call instant the
vice line for the Oilers and Anthers heading in to
Game seven. Here on a Monday night, Coop's not listening
line too shocking. He's not listening Hello line too. Oh
I want it all right? You want them? I want
(31:14):
Coop to listen occasionally. That would help me