July 12, 2024 • 37 mins
Bernie Fratto is in for Ben Maller and talks about Cam Newton saying that Cowboys are no longer "America's Team," the Pirates taking Paul Skenes being taken out of the game in the midst of a no hitter, and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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tire buying should be. We are just days away from
NFL teams getting into camp believe it or not. Three
weeks from Thursday night when we signed on this show
eleven pm Thursday night, Pacific time here on the Left Coast,
three weeks away from the Hall of Fame game, eight
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weeks away from our first NFL full Sunday. All right,
where am I going with this? There are so many
storylines that are juicy. Will the Chargers do well under
Jim Harbaugh be a great story. They've got to overcome
the Kansas City Chiefs who are looking to three pete
and they look like their hell been from leather and
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their quest to do it. Can Aaron Rodgers come back
with the chart with the with the Jets and break
that you know long what fifteen seventeen, eighteen year playoff drought.
You get the picture, all kinds of storylines, and what
do we have. We have Cam Newton the other day
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blasting the Cowboys quote that is not America's team no more. Well,
he was on this podcast called fourth and one, and
he basically went on to say the Cowboys should not
be called America's team due to their lack of recent success.
Here's his quote, they don't seem to know how to
win that. Everybody points figures at Dak Prescott. I understand
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the whole America's team. That is not America's team, no more,
ladies and gentlemen. I don't know who had to say
that Kansas City Chiefs is America's team. By the way,
who's dating who and who's winning what? They are America's team.
Let's stop lying to ourselves.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
If you all want to get back to that title,
you got to obviously win. Okay, Cam, maybe you should
stop lying to yourself. You did not have to invoke
the Dallas Cowboys at all if you believe that the
Chiefs were in fact America's team, partly because they win,
partly because well Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey. You can't
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get enough of them, right, Well, that's what they tell it.
You just wait till next year. With all these TV games.
The NFL is riding this like a rented mule. So
why Cam did you have to invoke Dallas. See, the
opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference. You have
to have emotion invested to care enough to hate, because
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if you didn't, you'd be indifferent and you wouldn't even
talk about the Cowboys. So they can be America's team
because people hate watching it. By the way, guess guess what.
Last year, Cumulatively more people watch the Dallas Cowboys on
TV by the numbers than any other team. Now the
Chief for a relatively close second, But after all these years,
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the Dallas Cowboys were still considered the team that people
watched the most. Goes back to nineteen seventy eight when
a producer named Bob Ryan, not the Bob Ryan of
the Boston Globe, worked for NFL Films, the Great Steven
and Ed Sable, and they did a thing called America's Team,
and you can watch it on YouTube, and I highly
recommend it. It's very clever. They did a story about
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which was the most popular team in the NFL, and
Bob Ryan noticed that in every stadium home around the
road there were more Cowboy fans than anybody else, even
on road games. He dubbed them America's team. He just
slipped out of his mouth, and the rest is history.
There was a feature called Timeline on the NFL Network
which came out in twenty sixteen. It re aired this
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past week referencing that original thing back in nineteen seventy eight.
It still carries out today. This happened before Cam Newton
was born. This happened eleven years before Jimmy Johnson in
that whole crew in the herschel Walker trade winning three
Super Bowls. They were dubbed America's team back in nineteen
seventy eight when it was Tom Landry and Roger styleback,
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et cetera. But it gets worse with all the news
going on. What do we see last week? Dak Prescott
shows a focal check that try that again in English,
shows a photo on social media that hasn't been wearing
a walking boot on his right ankle while vacationing Inkybo
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San Lucas. That goes viral. That's talked about on shows,
podcast TV, It's debated, it's argued about. However, Dak and
true true, Dak Prescott, for him, starts to open his
mouth and once again, whenever these guys talk, you just
feel like someone's peeing on your shoes and they're telling
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you it's raining and you don't buy it. So what
did Dak press Scott said? Do you alleviate me? Concerned?
He told Clarence Hill of the Fort Worth Star Telegram, Well,
it's just part of the regular maintenance, man, I've been doing.
This is fracturing the right ankle back in twenty twenty,
same ankle, same issues you may or may not recall.
Four years ago against the New York Giants, Dak Prescott
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did suffer a pretty significant right ankle compound, fractured dislocation,
missed the final basically the final three months of disease.
So Dak Prescott told this reporter, mister Hill, that he
just wears this as a precaution and measure on vacation
because the last time I went deep sea fishy, my
uncle swole up, huh, I'm great, though, Prescott added, wait
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a minute, you do you really wear an ankle? Do
you really wear a boot? Four years after the injury.
Do you really wear it unless you tweaked it again.
You know, Prescott's entering the final year of his contract,
and that's the other part of the Cowboys story. A
lot of people are in limble. You got Mike McCarthy,
who can win during the regular season, twelve victories three
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years in a row, can't do a damn thing in
the postseason. He's been out coached at every big game
that he's ever looked at. In the postseason, he looks
like Barney Robell on the sidelines, wandering around again, like
the guy in the mall parking lot, can't find his
car dack when it matters most, and he gets out
it's hard to breathe. He stinks it up every time.
He wants to get paid again though. Mike McCarthy, you
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know he's a lame duck this year after the contract,
Jerry Jones letting them all twist in the win Seedee
Lamb wants to get paid, Mike and Carson wants to
get paid. Hey, they're all wandering around, wonder it's going
to happen, and there's all kinds of pressure. And by
the way, Coyways have a tough schedule. They could get
out of the gates slow. They play Cleveland week one,
They're a one point favorite. Cleveland's gonna be sneaky good
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this year. Wouldn't surprise me if the Browns won that game.
Then he got Baltimore like week three. I'm told that
if Mike McCarthy he's you know, under five hundred after
the first month, Jerry joneses might make a decision there
and be done with it. Now. I don't know that
that's going to happen, and that would be out of
character for Jerry Jones, but you can't. He can't rule
it out right since you know, breaking that ankle. Basically,
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Prescott did play sixteen games in twenty twenty one, had
a calf strain. He played twelve games of following you him,
it's five games with a fracture thumb. But last year
contract drive, Prescott played all seventeen games, finished second to
Lamar Jackson a MVP voting. But see he's entering the
final year of his contract and he wants that extension.
We were talking sixty million a year. He could make
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him the highest paid pilayer in the NFL. And by
the way, I get it. The Cowboys are in a
quandary here. He sure as hell don't want to go
back to the Quincy Carter Drew Henson days. So you're
damned if you do. You're damned if you don't. But
Jerry Jones, who'sn't getting any younger, eighty one years young.
He wants to win the Super Bowl now. So you
got cam blasting the Cowboys, you got Dak Prescott in
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the news, when you've got all these other great storylines
like Harball with the Chargers, Aaron Rodgers returning from his injury,
the Charge the Chiefs, will Day three feet. I want
to get people's thoughts if you want to weigh in
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I certainly want to hear from Lorena Kop and Eddie
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In for Ben Maller, it's Bernie Fratto.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
All right, thanks so much Eddie, let's keep you right
here looking forward to your thoughts on this, because it's
honestly become subject matter this last week. This is not imagined.
It's out there in the ether, largely because of Cam
Newton's comments, and then of course Dak Prescott. And by
the way, Eddie, do you buy the Dak Prescott at
just routinely putting a boot on because of four years ago?
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Why did he put it on the last three off seasons?
Let's start there.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
Yeah, no, of course it's I'm not saying it's the
most serious thing in the world, but clearly he had
it on for a reason, so to act like it
was completely nothing is pretty silly. And I would say
he thinks people are pretty stupid if they're buying.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
That, Eddie in some form or fashion. Are the Cowboys
still America's team? Remember the the opposite of love is
not hate, it's indifferent. So people care enough to maybe
hate watch this team. Your thoughts, well, I.
Speaker 6 (10:35):
Think I think that's probably the one thing I guess
is that you know, there's not a lot of people
who are indifferent about the Cowboys. Either you love him
or you hate him. I've never believed they were America's team.
That was just something, as you said, someone put on
them and they ran with it. And good for them,
good marketing for them, I guess. But I've never bought
into that, I think, And look, I'm certainly biased. I'm
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a Steelers fan. I've been to plenty of Steelers road
games and I see plenty of Steeler fans packing other
teams stadiums, So I think they're just as I think
they're just as deserving of being called America's team. But
no one called them that at some point, so you know,
But like I said, I get it. They're in the
conversation if you want to if you want to pick
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an NFL team and say who's the most popular, Cowboys
are certainly in the conversation.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
They've given that, But you bring up a really good point.
Perhaps it's the pretentious nature of the Cowboys and the
way they beat this in their chest and they wear
it like a badge. The only Super Bowl I covered
in an official capacity with Super Bowl forty and Detroit
and Oh six where the Steelers beat the Seahawks, and
I gotta tell you, man, it was like a Steelers
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home game. They drove up from Pittsburgh just amazing fans.
They bring up a really good point Steelers fans travel, Well,
we're gonna get to Lorraina and Coop just a minute.
Definitely want to hear what you guys got to say.
Go back out to the phones, Poppy, How you doing, Poppy?
What do you got tonight?
Speaker 7 (12:01):
A lot big as their hometown's beautiful, you know, I
was here with their heat wave and it's you know,
really uh beautiful right here.
Speaker 8 (12:07):
Excited you know for the summer League of Bronnie James
and also seeing the Daniel State aspects if they make
it to the NBA Pros and the Timberwolves Johnson, Bernie,
So beautiful day here in Vegus.
Speaker 7 (12:19):
Excited for the summer league, Bernie. Are you going to
be going to the summer League?
Speaker 1 (12:22):
I might. I've lost Center's Poppy. I covered it in
ten of the last twelve years, and uh, I'm super
busy this next week. So do you have thoughts, Poppy
on the on the Cowboys with their America's team?
Speaker 7 (12:34):
Yeah, you know, it's a it's a big market and
I think they are America's team, you know, just because
the way it's an American team, American brand. Wan Jerry Jones,
he's the owner. And just the way that it's going.
Speaker 8 (12:46):
I mean, hey, they even got the cheerleader thing on Netflix,
if you guys want to check that out on Netflix.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
The cheerleaders.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
How the cheerleaders do a part of it.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
See, that's part of their that was part of their image.
The Cowboy, the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders. I mean, have done
movies on them and anyway, go.
Speaker 8 (13:02):
Ahead, Yeah, yeah, Bernie, And I was just gonna say, yeah,
it's on there if you want to check it out
and see how they you know, mentality, the physicality like
these cheerleaders like over two hundred audition and you know
virtually and only in person can go like one hundred,
and only like I believe seventy or thirty forty can
make it un the roster approximately.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Yeah, good point, Poppy, appreciate you checking in. Enjoy your
time in Las Vegas. Man, Okay, buddy, thanks back out
to the phones. Mike the Leprechaun in Boston. Thanks to
your patience.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Mike.
Speaker 9 (13:35):
What have you got for Well, I'm right, I've been
calling it as a suicox and I'm writing, I'm writing
a book, so I'm in no rush anyway, I'm going
to remind you that your name is Bernie, right, Bernie
the first ry.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Yes, my name is Bernie.
Speaker 9 (13:50):
Yes the first ry, Bernie Feder right, Yes, sir, I
do association game, so you're Bernie Fido.
Speaker 10 (13:58):
So I know that Eddie and Oop the loop and
Lorena has been I'm trying to tell a story about Chicago,
and I'm trying.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
To teach you guys to Irish words.
Speaker 10 (14:10):
I'm up the ground. So there's a work of gay lick,
gay lick, gay lick.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Yes, okay, exactly, So.
Speaker 10 (14:19):
That's going to I can't go to that story. I
want to talk about planes. But anyway, so planes and
mail planes and so Gaelic and in Ireland we don't
say Celtics.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
We call Celtics.
Speaker 10 (14:31):
We're Celtics. Yes, people, anyway, so let me go, let
me get to the story. Because Coop said that time
I had to hurry up.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yes, you know it is.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
It is in the rush.
Speaker 10 (14:40):
So anyway, so.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Let me talk about planes.
Speaker 10 (14:43):
So I would love to be next door to Lorena
on a plane, I really would. I wouldn't mind being
behind her or beside her or in front of her.
But regarding the handwrestling. Yeah, that's a little half half
and half in it's a little little floating here and there,
but that's the middle sleeves, right. And then when I'm
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on the plane going to Ireland, they have the map,
thank and that's fine too. But then anyway, so if
I has a few beers, I have to go pee.
I like to be on the aisle and if I
want to sleep, I go on the window. And then
but then once in a while somebody will come and
kick me.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
In the back.
Speaker 10 (15:22):
It's a little sometimes I lean.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Back, Are you there?
Speaker 1 (15:25):
So I'm here. I'm gonna ask you one last question.
And the interesting time, my friend, you take off your
shoes on the flight.
Speaker 9 (15:31):
Oh gosh, no, that's that's that's disgusting.
Speaker 10 (15:34):
But the worst thing about goes Ireland on the plane.
And I'm a loper, so I don't really.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Go in the planes. Watch.
Speaker 10 (15:41):
But the last thing about going on a plane is
in Ireland you go back and forth under the Brazilian
babies on the plane. But can I say hello it's
Lorena because she's obviously a nice.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Woman's run very nice, be very professional. I think you
just did. I think you just did say hi to her.
Speaker 10 (16:00):
Oh, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Sudwest is the best.
Speaker 10 (16:06):
Sudwest is the best they do.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
No, No, I just.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Turned into Chuck Woolery. We'll be back in two and two.
All right, anything else, my man?
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Oh, I have a lot.
Speaker 10 (16:19):
I'm writing a book, so don't worry.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
All right, good, let's let's hear when the book comes out,
and I'm sure we'll all be clamoring you. Enjoy the
rest of your evening. Mike lepregn in Boston. We really
thank you for for checking in. Thanks, buddy uh Lorrane,
You're a good sports amongst many other qualities that are
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very admirable. What are your thoughts on the Dallas Cowboys
are the America's team?
Speaker 11 (16:47):
Well, you know, I actually have I'm kind of torn
on this because you know, I just started sports this
past year, and and I know for a fact the
Cowboys have been America's team since what the eighties. My
mom love the Cowboys. I am a hand me down
Cowboy fan. But this past year I even questioned the
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Cowboys legitimacy as America's team because the Chiefs are so popular.
If you ask me, today's team that represents America would
be the Kansas City Chiefs. They've won numerous times during
you know, this past few years. Yes, so that alone then,
and you know, obviously with all the shenanigans on media,
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you can't say that they're not and I'm not. I
love It's Dak Prescott, right, that's their quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
He's the quarterback, Dak Prescott.
Speaker 11 (17:36):
Yeah, yeah, And I'm sure he's a great guy, absolutely great,
but he's he's he's not supporting America right now.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
That's a good commentary. Now, I've never heard anybody say
one bad thing about Dak Prescott. But if you if
you don't want to one in the playoffs, he's your guy. Sorry,
Just just the facts, just the fact. The thing about
see your mother was a Cowboys fan, kind of hand
it down. They cause you to pay attention, whether it
was the hole in the roof in the stadium, the
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original stadium before the Jerry Dome. They used to say,
we built the stadium with a hole in the roof
so God could watch Cowboys games, which never quite connected
with me. You think God could have X ray vision, right,
But that's just me. I would think things. You know,
no high school drop out. I went to full six
years star. They held out the cheerleaders. They used to win,
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but they haven't done anything since nineteen ninety six. And
that's what pisses people off. That's what Chris cam Newton.
Speaker 11 (18:32):
At okay, and they're allowed to be mad about that
because who are relying to at this point.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
But see, here's what's interesting. That's what he says, Cowboys, Oh,
so what have you done for me lately? Nobody says
to the Atlanta Falcons, what have you done for me lately?
Because a lot of people don't care because they're not
an America's team. It's really a complicated conversation, it can be.
It all comes down to perception. Coop, your thoughts. I
thought Eddie made some excellent points in Lorena. She you know,
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she just took up sports in the last year. But
there's an awareness there, Coop, you're going to have to
break the tie.
Speaker 12 (19:05):
I suppose it just depends on what you consider the
term America's Team.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
To mean.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
How do you define it right? How do we define it?
Speaker 12 (19:16):
Because if we're talking about level of interest, then yeah,
they're America's team and they still are because if you
look at the TV ratings, it's the Cowboys and then
a huge drop off before number two, as far as
it's true national ratings.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
So true.
Speaker 11 (19:33):
So numbers wise, they are still number one.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
More people watch them on TV cumulatively the last NFL
season than any other team including the Chiefs.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Yeah, and so it's.
Speaker 12 (19:44):
I think then when people hear the term America's team
and they get all worked up about that, it's because
it kind of implies that like all of America loves
the Cowboys, and that's definitely not the case. You just
have people watching them because they either love them, or
they want to see them lose, or just because they
are a national topic. That's a name that you know,
even if you're not a football fan, you're just a
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casual sports fan. You know, the Dallas Cowboys. That's one
of the teams that excellent points.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Excellent points. These are realities. And believe it or not,
the Cowboys in their history have been to the Super
Bowl eight times in one to five. Now they haven't
been since ninety six, which is part of the problem.
But you know the old NFL films which are just ingenious, right,
They were narrated by a guy named John Facen who
had maybe the greatest pipes of all time, and that
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was the opening narrative, and you can find this on YouTube.
I recommend you watch it. I think you'll find it fascinating.
But his exact line was, they appear on television so much,
so often that their faces are as familiar to the
public as presidents and movie stars. They are the Dallas Cowboys,
America's team. So all three of you brought up excellent points.
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It's an imponderable. Where you sit is where you stand.
There is no right or wrong answer. But when Cam
Newton spouts off and has to reference the Dallas Cowboys
just to make a point about the Kansas City Chiefs,
you raise an eyebrown. When Dak Prescott makes headlines because
he's wearing a freaking boot for an ankle injury four
years ago and starts talking out of his huja like
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you said, how are we gonna believe that you're insulting
our intelligence? We're not that stupid. Can you please stop?
This is what the Cowboys do. But all along the
way they manage to grab our attention. You know what's
grabbing our attention as well, Paul skeens, we gotta talk
about this. I gotta tell you, I gotta tell you
this is a guy you saw him win it all
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last year for LSU in the College World Series. Dominant
gets to the big leagues. His first half numbers after
the seven inning, no hit, eleven strikeout performance earlier on Thursday.
He's pitched sixty six innings this year. He's only allowed
forty eight hits. He struck out eighty nine guys. This
is the Major leagues only walk thirteen. His average, fastball velocity,
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his average, he's ninety nine point one miles an hour.
He had a situation earlier in the year hadn't been done.
I think in a one hundred years. He struck out
all three guys at an inning on nine pitches, and
every pitch was over one hundred miles an hour. I
got to ask the question, shouldn't he be starting in
the All Star Game? Yes? And the other thing is,
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this is twice now they've taken Paul Skins out when
he had a no hitter deep into the game. Should
they have left him in? The easier things? Inquiring minds
like I want to know.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
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Speaker 1 (22:40):
Let's keep it here. Let you get your thoughts. It's
a two part question. Paul Schemes twice now has gone
deep into a game where there's a no hitter and
they pulled him. I get it, but it causes you
to wonder, at least have the conversation maybe should they
have kept it him in? He was already into the
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seventh inning, He's already thrown a hundred pitches. Tough. You know,
it's tough argument, but it's worth having. The other thing
is the All Star Game is Tuesday night. Most All
Star games have sort of jumped the shark in my opinion,
but baseball is the one of the last passion. They
actually played defense, and it's a standalone game, and let's
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face it, they'll they'll draw some eyes. But you would
think that if you want to try to continue to
grow the game, you got to give the fans what
they want to me it's a no brainer that you
start Paul Skins. He's probably only gonna pitch one inning,
but this is what the fans want. This is an
entertainment medium. What are your thoughts on both of those questions?
Speaker 5 (23:40):
Hey, well, I don't think there is look on, I'm
a Pittsburgh Pirates fan.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Believe it or not.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
Yeah, so, I think, and I'm old school.
Speaker 6 (23:49):
I think that pitchers are way too babied these days,
and I don't think there's any real data that shows
that it really works. And if you look at the
LA Dodgers, they are very, very overproductive of their pitchers
and they get.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
Hurt all the time.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
Yes, so, And plus Paul Skeen's he's going to get
some extra time off with the All Star Game coming
up if he does pitch the All Star Game, which
he should start. If he doesn't, that's ridiculous because people
want to see him. If he does pitch the All
Star Game, it's'll probably only be an ending or two
and he's going to get extra rest afterwards. So I
thought they should have left him in. I thought they
should have let him go for the no hitter and look,
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and also as a Pirates fan, and I'm usually not
a pessimistic person, but I'm just waiting for something to
happen as far as him hurting his arm, I hope
it doesn't happen, but I guess when you're a pitcher
like he is, and you're a strikeout pitcher, at some
point it'll eventually happen, but I'm just enjoying it. While
at lasts I thought that Pirates should have left him
in too go for the no hitter, and he definitely
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should start the All Star Game, all right.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Excellent answers to both questions, And for what it's worth.
When Paul Skeens pitched against the wake Forest last year
to win the College World Series championship game for LSU,
he threw one hundred and twenty four pitches to one
hundred twenty four pitches, so I believe he had like
one hundred and four hundred and five. Is it reasonable
to believe that in the final two innings, did he
(25:08):
finished the job? He would have thrown twenty pitches or left.
He's already proven he can do this. Or if you
get a hit, you start the inning in the eighth,
if you get a hit, you pull them. Okay, fair enough,
but you bring up a good point. In spite of
all of these, you know the load management as it were,
that the pitch counts. People are still getting hurt, people
are getting Tommy John surgeries in record numbers because what's
(25:31):
emphasized more than ever is velocity, and they're getting every
bit out of their arm they could Nolan Ryan, He said,
this is really the problem we're having before we get
to Lurana and Coop definitely want to hear what you
guys got to say. Back out to the phones, were
joined by angry Bill. Bill, good evening, good morning, depending
on your perspective, Welcome into the Ben Maler Show.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Okay, how you doing, guys, But Bill, first thing on
the first thing on this picture's schemes, I'm seventy four.
Give me a break. This guy's teams. It doesn't matter
that he came out of the game. Pirates aren't going anywhere.
Just want to come out of the game.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Are they're in the wildcard hunt?
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Bill, they're in the wildcard hunt? Yet we'll talk around
September fifteenth. Okay, all right now, okay, now let's get
onto the Dallas Cowboys America team that makes me want
to gag on my cube. Jerry Jones is a mentally
ill person. If you can become a billionaire with brains,
(26:29):
how do you not work away into having a team
that can at least get into the playoffs consistently and
win consistently and get to the super Bowl? And how
many years there's something wrong with the guy. He can't
see that he can't do the job. He can't do
the job. They're not the America's team. That's a bunch
of garbage. And it's just the way that is.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Okay, Bill, could we get you to come out of
your shell just a little bit, if we can get
you to come over the show. See, you're making our
point for us, and I respect your opinion. But because
you're pissed off, and that's okay to be pissed off.
You care enough to be pissed off, you care enough
to call therein underscores the basic point that somewhere along
the line, you've got some emotion invested in the Dallas Cowboys.
(27:13):
Is that fair?
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Emotion invested them? Yeah? When the day my giants keep
beating them, that's when my emotions the air. Okay, that's
the only time an emotion. Let me get onto this
thing with the airport stuff. I go to the airport
drop off and picked up five to seven times a day. Okay.
Anybody that goes to the airport or comes back from
the airport and you have expectations, you are stupid. There
(27:38):
is no expectations when you deal with the airports. Okay,
just don't have any expectations to show up, go peel,
a little kick the back of the chair of the rain.
Now you know, whatever you want to do, but there's
no expectations. You go to the airport, have a nice day, everybody.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Bill. That was an outstanding call. And by the way,
I'd been doing this a long time. I think we've
set a record tonight. I don't back to back calls
where someone's got to tell me about their bathroom habits.
It's all good. I don't you know. I don't have
any expectations of callers. I'm just glad you listened to
the show, Glad you took time to call. But we've
had back to back people talking about ping. Did you
(28:18):
guys all catch that talking about pan? All right, all right,
enough about that, Enough about that? Uh Lorenau Paul Skeans,
Pittsburgh Pirates Major League Baseball All Star Game. Do you
have some thoughts on this? I'm kissing you're gonna have
something clever.
Speaker 11 (28:35):
I am useless when it comes to I don't even
know who Paul's Skeens is. I like his name, cool
name bro.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Which is the cool name? The Paul are the Skiings?
Speaker 2 (28:46):
You know?
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Who he's dating, right, he's dating Olivia Dunn and Lsu.
Speaker 11 (28:52):
Gymnast huh uh you get twins. I think.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
The Thompson twins.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
I'll find it for you.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Hold on.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
So you do know that Paul Skeenes is dating Lvia Dunn.
Oh yeah, the Lsu jennast Due was recently at the
White Party with Joe Burrow. You know, one of those
something something I don't know. I don't want to start rumors.
What do I know? So Paul Skeens is kind of
kind of winning on and off the field, but in
all seriousness and all seriousness, throwing an old hitter is
(29:25):
a coveted thing in the major leagues. It just doesn't
happen anymore because they pull these guys. And I get it,
it's not about all longevity. But to Eddy's point, spot on,
in spite of the best laid plans, pictures are going
down right and left because they're trying to throw so hard.
I would have kept him in. I don't know. I mean.
And by the way, you never in this man's Major
(29:46):
league baseball. If you're five hundred on Labor Day. With
the expanded playoffs, you can't rule out that the Pittsburgh Pirates.
Could cary anything could happen. Hey, Bob Yunker wants hit
a home run off Tandy Kofax. So I'm just saying,
Coop your thoughts, Paul Skeane, Should they have ca him
in on the no hitter? And oh, by the way,
should he start in the All Star Game?
Speaker 5 (30:05):
Yes? And yes.
Speaker 12 (30:07):
I am a big proponent of keeping the pitcher in
there and to finish the game off, especially if they're
not like, you know, if you're not in uh what's
the word, I'm blinking tonight, if you're not in danger
of losing the game because he's let like you know,
four consecutive players come up to bat and hit, then keep.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
The guy in there. You're robbing the fans and right
and him.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
That's it. That's it. This is an entertainment medium. The
game is played for the fans. The game exists because
of the fans. The TV deals are because of the fans.
Right on down the line, this is a guy. He
was selected number one overall. He's lived up to the hype.
Pittsburgh is a great sports town and a very good
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baseball town, and it's been a long time since they've
had something to really really cheer worry about by the way,
every victory matters. The Pirates are only leading one to
nothing when he was taken out. Every victory matters when
you get to September. Like Angry Bill said, we'll find out.
You know that one or two games I'll never forget
(31:16):
and Rob Parker will remember this. Recovered the two thousand
and six Tigers that went to the World Series and
lost to the Saint Louis Cardinals in five games. They
ended up going as a wildcard team. There was a
random Sunday in late July where Jim Leland decided to
arrest his starters and Rob says, if the Tigers lose
(31:37):
this game and they lose the division lead by one game,
we're going to remember this. They lost the game, and
the Minnesota Twins beat the Tigers by one game. They
had to make. They had to play an emergency playoff
game as to who would win the Al Central that year,
and the Twins won it and the Tigers lost. They
didn't win the division. They ended up actually advancing to
(31:58):
the World Series, but it was one of those deals
where every game matter. So the Pirates were only leaving
one nothing. So Paul Skeens had a second shot at
his street Thursday, and he wasn't given a chance to
finish the job. He's only started eleven games so far
in the major leagues, and it's been sensational. Seven to
no hit, no hit innings against Milwaukee on Thursday, struck
(32:21):
out eleven, walked one ninety nine pitches through one hundred
and twenty four in the World Series last year. Second
time this year he's taking a no hitter deep into
the game. And look, in the seventh inning he only
threw six pitches he was dealing man. Now, because he's
(32:42):
a strike on pitcher, it's possible he would have needed
well over one hundred and twenty pitches to finish the job,
because you got to have right three pitches to strike
out a hitter, all right, So maybe they factor that
into it. But he's already in the conversation right now
for the best pitcher in the game. What he's done.
It's era is one point nine. Now he hasn't thrown
(33:04):
enough innings to be qualified for the er title. He's
only got like sixty six innings this year. He's going
to get to be you have to have another one
hundred and by the way, if voters want to vote
for him on the Cym Award, they can still do it.
So look, this is a guy striking out twelve batters
for every nine innings. I believe he should start in
the All Star Game. I agree with that. And the
(33:26):
tooth of the matter is I think the fans were
truly denied. They could have marched him out to the
eighth inning and said, listen, let's see how it starts,
and if you throw six pitches in the eighth inning,
well we got to keep you in. But that's in
this new era of baseball analytics, which is in some
sense is killing the game. Let's be hoest. Okay, this
game is played by human beings. You have to take
(33:48):
each individual case. You know. You can't relegate everything to
a computer, right, yeah, all right? Six simple words? Six
simple words. What did Angel Reese say, which he was
asked the other day about playing with Caitlin Clark and
their upcoming All Star Game. I'll share it with you.
(34:12):
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remember that actually quite well when that happened. All right,
so obviously, you know, unless you've been on Mars or
just not paying attention. The Angel Reese Caitlin Clark, two
p's in a pod. How do I characterize this rivalry?
(35:42):
I guess has been all the rage in the WNBA,
no doubt about it. But they're gonna play together on
the All Star team against the team the other All
Star team that is comprised of the players that were
selected to go play in the Olympics. This might be
a must watch. It's coming up on July twentieth. So
(36:04):
the other day when Angel Reeson was asked, and by
the way, they're the two most well known figures in
maybe the whole damn sports world right now. Just the
other day, Reese joined a show called NBA to Day
to discuss her feelings. I'm playing with Caitlyn Clark later
this month. And what didn't she say? Six world? Well,
six words When asked about playing with Caitlin Clark, she said, quote,
(36:27):
it's going to be really cool. Hey, that's cool, that's
not bad. Quote. I know so many fans are going
to come out to watch both of us being able
to be in that environment. We're going to be playing
together for a while. This is not going to be
the last time re Saturday. I know we'll be all
starts again. I know hopefully twenty twenty eight will be
Olympians together too. Look, I thought that was really cool.
(36:50):
It's awesome to see Angel Reese praising Caitlin Clark when
you consider their on court rivalry. I know people are
getting off on this hate and going back and forth
or whatever the hell slamming people in the back. Look.
I remember when Mark McGuire and Sammy Sosa had the
famous home run chase in nineteen ninety eight. They were
dogging each other, they were kind of rooting for each other,
(37:12):
and it became a story because of the performance on
the field. This should still be a story based on
the performance on the court. Much too much has been
made of the hate going back and forth, or it's
really kind of one way hate. But you get the drift.
Maybe this settles in. Their product's been better than ever
and they're bringing a lot of eyeballs to the game
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eleven pm Thursday night, Pacific time here on the Left Coast,
three weeks away from the Hall of Fame game, eight
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weeks away from our first NFL full Sunday. All right,
where am I going with this? There are so many
storylines that are juicy. Will the Chargers do well under
Jim Harbaugh be a great story. They've got to overcome
the Kansas City Chiefs who are looking to three pete
and they look like their hell been from leather and
(01:07):
their quest to do it. Can Aaron Rodgers come back
with the chart with the with the Jets and break
that you know long what fifteen seventeen, eighteen year playoff drought.
You get the picture, all kinds of storylines, and what
do we have. We have Cam Newton the other day
(01:27):
blasting the Cowboys quote that is not America's team no more. Well,
he was on this podcast called fourth and one, and
he basically went on to say the Cowboys should not
be called America's team due to their lack of recent success.
Here's his quote, they don't seem to know how to
win that. Everybody points figures at Dak Prescott. I understand
(01:48):
the whole America's team. That is not America's team, no more,
ladies and gentlemen. I don't know who had to say
that Kansas City Chiefs is America's team. By the way,
who's dating who and who's winning what? They are America's team.
Let's stop lying to ourselves.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
If you all want to get back to that title,
you got to obviously win. Okay, Cam, maybe you should
stop lying to yourself. You did not have to invoke
the Dallas Cowboys at all if you believe that the
Chiefs were in fact America's team, partly because they win,
partly because well Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey. You can't
(02:22):
get enough of them, right, Well, that's what they tell it.
You just wait till next year. With all these TV games.
The NFL is riding this like a rented mule. So
why Cam did you have to invoke Dallas. See, the
opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference. You have
to have emotion invested to care enough to hate, because
(02:43):
if you didn't, you'd be indifferent and you wouldn't even
talk about the Cowboys. So they can be America's team
because people hate watching it. By the way, guess guess what.
Last year, Cumulatively more people watch the Dallas Cowboys on
TV by the numbers than any other team. Now the
Chief for a relatively close second, But after all these years,
(03:05):
the Dallas Cowboys were still considered the team that people
watched the most. Goes back to nineteen seventy eight when
a producer named Bob Ryan, not the Bob Ryan of
the Boston Globe, worked for NFL Films, the Great Steven
and Ed Sable, and they did a thing called America's Team,
and you can watch it on YouTube, and I highly
recommend it. It's very clever. They did a story about
(03:28):
which was the most popular team in the NFL, and
Bob Ryan noticed that in every stadium home around the
road there were more Cowboy fans than anybody else, even
on road games. He dubbed them America's team. He just
slipped out of his mouth, and the rest is history.
There was a feature called Timeline on the NFL Network
which came out in twenty sixteen. It re aired this
(03:49):
past week referencing that original thing back in nineteen seventy eight.
It still carries out today. This happened before Cam Newton
was born. This happened eleven years before Jimmy Johnson in
that whole crew in the herschel Walker trade winning three
Super Bowls. They were dubbed America's team back in nineteen
seventy eight when it was Tom Landry and Roger styleback,
(04:09):
et cetera. But it gets worse with all the news
going on. What do we see last week? Dak Prescott
shows a focal check that try that again in English,
shows a photo on social media that hasn't been wearing
a walking boot on his right ankle while vacationing Inkybo
(04:32):
San Lucas. That goes viral. That's talked about on shows,
podcast TV, It's debated, it's argued about. However, Dak and
true true, Dak Prescott, for him, starts to open his
mouth and once again, whenever these guys talk, you just
feel like someone's peeing on your shoes and they're telling
(04:56):
you it's raining and you don't buy it. So what
did Dak press Scott said? Do you alleviate me? Concerned?
He told Clarence Hill of the Fort Worth Star Telegram, Well,
it's just part of the regular maintenance, man, I've been doing.
This is fracturing the right ankle back in twenty twenty,
same ankle, same issues you may or may not recall.
Four years ago against the New York Giants, Dak Prescott
(05:21):
did suffer a pretty significant right ankle compound, fractured dislocation,
missed the final basically the final three months of disease.
So Dak Prescott told this reporter, mister Hill, that he
just wears this as a precaution and measure on vacation
because the last time I went deep sea fishy, my
uncle swole up, huh, I'm great, though, Prescott added, wait
(05:44):
a minute, you do you really wear an ankle? Do
you really wear a boot? Four years after the injury.
Do you really wear it unless you tweaked it again.
You know, Prescott's entering the final year of his contract,
and that's the other part of the Cowboys story. A
lot of people are in limble. You got Mike McCarthy,
who can win during the regular season, twelve victories three
(06:04):
years in a row, can't do a damn thing in
the postseason. He's been out coached at every big game
that he's ever looked at. In the postseason, he looks
like Barney Robell on the sidelines, wandering around again, like
the guy in the mall parking lot, can't find his
car dack when it matters most, and he gets out
it's hard to breathe. He stinks it up every time.
He wants to get paid again though. Mike McCarthy, you
(06:26):
know he's a lame duck this year after the contract,
Jerry Jones letting them all twist in the win Seedee
Lamb wants to get paid, Mike and Carson wants to
get paid. Hey, they're all wandering around, wonder it's going
to happen, and there's all kinds of pressure. And by
the way, Coyways have a tough schedule. They could get
out of the gates slow. They play Cleveland week one,
They're a one point favorite. Cleveland's gonna be sneaky good
(06:47):
this year. Wouldn't surprise me if the Browns won that game.
Then he got Baltimore like week three. I'm told that
if Mike McCarthy he's you know, under five hundred after
the first month, Jerry joneses might make a decision there
and be done with it. Now. I don't know that
that's going to happen, and that would be out of
character for Jerry Jones, but you can't. He can't rule
it out right since you know, breaking that ankle. Basically,
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Prescott did play sixteen games in twenty twenty one, had
a calf strain. He played twelve games of following you him,
it's five games with a fracture thumb. But last year
contract drive, Prescott played all seventeen games, finished second to
Lamar Jackson a MVP voting. But see he's entering the
final year of his contract and he wants that extension.
We were talking sixty million a year. He could make
(07:32):
him the highest paid pilayer in the NFL. And by
the way, I get it. The Cowboys are in a
quandary here. He sure as hell don't want to go
back to the Quincy Carter Drew Henson days. So you're
damned if you do. You're damned if you don't. But
Jerry Jones, who'sn't getting any younger, eighty one years young.
He wants to win the Super Bowl now. So you
got cam blasting the Cowboys, you got Dak Prescott in
(07:54):
the news, when you've got all these other great storylines
like Harball with the Chargers, Aaron Rodgers returning from his injury,
the Charge the Chiefs, will Day three feet. I want
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Speaker 1 (09:38):
All right, thanks so much Eddie, let's keep you right
here looking forward to your thoughts on this, because it's
honestly become subject matter this last week. This is not imagined.
It's out there in the ether, largely because of Cam
Newton's comments, and then of course Dak Prescott. And by
the way, Eddie, do you buy the Dak Prescott at
just routinely putting a boot on because of four years ago?
(10:00):
Why did he put it on the last three off seasons?
Let's start there.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
Yeah, no, of course it's I'm not saying it's the
most serious thing in the world, but clearly he had
it on for a reason, so to act like it
was completely nothing is pretty silly. And I would say
he thinks people are pretty stupid if they're buying.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
That, Eddie in some form or fashion. Are the Cowboys
still America's team? Remember the the opposite of love is
not hate, it's indifferent. So people care enough to maybe
hate watch this team. Your thoughts, well, I.
Speaker 6 (10:35):
Think I think that's probably the one thing I guess
is that you know, there's not a lot of people
who are indifferent about the Cowboys. Either you love him
or you hate him. I've never believed they were America's team.
That was just something, as you said, someone put on
them and they ran with it. And good for them,
good marketing for them, I guess. But I've never bought
into that, I think, And look, I'm certainly biased. I'm
(10:56):
a Steelers fan. I've been to plenty of Steelers road
games and I see plenty of Steeler fans packing other
teams stadiums, So I think they're just as I think
they're just as deserving of being called America's team. But
no one called them that at some point, so you know,
But like I said, I get it. They're in the
conversation if you want to if you want to pick
(11:16):
an NFL team and say who's the most popular, Cowboys
are certainly in the conversation.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
They've given that, But you bring up a really good point.
Perhaps it's the pretentious nature of the Cowboys and the
way they beat this in their chest and they wear
it like a badge. The only Super Bowl I covered
in an official capacity with Super Bowl forty and Detroit
and Oh six where the Steelers beat the Seahawks, and
I gotta tell you, man, it was like a Steelers
(11:41):
home game. They drove up from Pittsburgh just amazing fans.
They bring up a really good point Steelers fans travel, Well,
we're gonna get to Lorraina and Coop just a minute.
Definitely want to hear what you guys got to say.
Go back out to the phones, Poppy, How you doing, Poppy?
What do you got tonight?
Speaker 7 (12:01):
A lot big as their hometown's beautiful, you know, I
was here with their heat wave and it's you know,
really uh beautiful right here.
Speaker 8 (12:07):
Excited you know for the summer League of Bronnie James
and also seeing the Daniel State aspects if they make
it to the NBA Pros and the Timberwolves Johnson, Bernie,
So beautiful day here in Vegus.
Speaker 7 (12:19):
Excited for the summer league, Bernie. Are you going to
be going to the summer League?
Speaker 1 (12:22):
I might. I've lost Center's Poppy. I covered it in
ten of the last twelve years, and uh, I'm super
busy this next week. So do you have thoughts, Poppy
on the on the Cowboys with their America's team?
Speaker 7 (12:34):
Yeah, you know, it's a it's a big market and
I think they are America's team, you know, just because
the way it's an American team, American brand. Wan Jerry Jones,
he's the owner. And just the way that it's going.
Speaker 8 (12:46):
I mean, hey, they even got the cheerleader thing on Netflix,
if you guys want to check that out on Netflix.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
The cheerleaders.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
How the cheerleaders do a part of it.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
See, that's part of their that was part of their image.
The Cowboy, the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders. I mean, have done
movies on them and anyway, go.
Speaker 8 (13:02):
Ahead, Yeah, yeah, Bernie, And I was just gonna say, yeah,
it's on there if you want to check it out
and see how they you know, mentality, the physicality like
these cheerleaders like over two hundred audition and you know
virtually and only in person can go like one hundred,
and only like I believe seventy or thirty forty can
make it un the roster approximately.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Yeah, good point, Poppy, appreciate you checking in. Enjoy your
time in Las Vegas. Man, Okay, buddy, thanks back out
to the phones. Mike the Leprechaun in Boston. Thanks to
your patience.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Mike.
Speaker 9 (13:35):
What have you got for Well, I'm right, I've been
calling it as a suicox and I'm writing, I'm writing
a book, so I'm in no rush anyway, I'm going
to remind you that your name is Bernie, right, Bernie
the first ry.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Yes, my name is Bernie.
Speaker 9 (13:50):
Yes the first ry, Bernie Feder right, Yes, sir, I
do association game, so you're Bernie Fido.
Speaker 10 (13:58):
So I know that Eddie and Oop the loop and
Lorena has been I'm trying to tell a story about Chicago,
and I'm trying.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
To teach you guys to Irish words.
Speaker 10 (14:10):
I'm up the ground. So there's a work of gay lick,
gay lick, gay lick.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Yes, okay, exactly, So.
Speaker 10 (14:19):
That's going to I can't go to that story. I
want to talk about planes. But anyway, so planes and
mail planes and so Gaelic and in Ireland we don't
say Celtics.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
We call Celtics.
Speaker 10 (14:31):
We're Celtics. Yes, people, anyway, so let me go, let
me get to the story. Because Coop said that time
I had to hurry up.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yes, you know it is.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
It is in the rush.
Speaker 10 (14:40):
So anyway, so.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Let me talk about planes.
Speaker 10 (14:43):
So I would love to be next door to Lorena
on a plane, I really would. I wouldn't mind being
behind her or beside her or in front of her.
But regarding the handwrestling. Yeah, that's a little half half
and half in it's a little little floating here and there,
but that's the middle sleeves, right. And then when I'm
(15:06):
on the plane going to Ireland, they have the map,
thank and that's fine too. But then anyway, so if
I has a few beers, I have to go pee.
I like to be on the aisle and if I
want to sleep, I go on the window. And then
but then once in a while somebody will come and
kick me.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
In the back.
Speaker 10 (15:22):
It's a little sometimes I lean.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Back, Are you there?
Speaker 1 (15:25):
So I'm here. I'm gonna ask you one last question.
And the interesting time, my friend, you take off your
shoes on the flight.
Speaker 9 (15:31):
Oh gosh, no, that's that's that's disgusting.
Speaker 10 (15:34):
But the worst thing about goes Ireland on the plane.
And I'm a loper, so I don't really.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Go in the planes. Watch.
Speaker 10 (15:41):
But the last thing about going on a plane is
in Ireland you go back and forth under the Brazilian
babies on the plane. But can I say hello it's
Lorena because she's obviously a nice.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Woman's run very nice, be very professional. I think you
just did. I think you just did say hi to her.
Speaker 10 (16:00):
Oh, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Sudwest is the best.
Speaker 10 (16:06):
Sudwest is the best they do.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
No, No, I just.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Turned into Chuck Woolery. We'll be back in two and two.
All right, anything else, my man?
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Oh, I have a lot.
Speaker 10 (16:19):
I'm writing a book, so don't worry.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
All right, good, let's let's hear when the book comes out,
and I'm sure we'll all be clamoring you. Enjoy the
rest of your evening. Mike lepregn in Boston. We really
thank you for for checking in. Thanks, buddy uh Lorrane,
You're a good sports amongst many other qualities that are
(16:41):
very admirable. What are your thoughts on the Dallas Cowboys
are the America's team?
Speaker 11 (16:47):
Well, you know, I actually have I'm kind of torn
on this because you know, I just started sports this
past year, and and I know for a fact the
Cowboys have been America's team since what the eighties. My
mom love the Cowboys. I am a hand me down
Cowboy fan. But this past year I even questioned the
(17:08):
Cowboys legitimacy as America's team because the Chiefs are so popular.
If you ask me, today's team that represents America would
be the Kansas City Chiefs. They've won numerous times during
you know, this past few years. Yes, so that alone then,
and you know, obviously with all the shenanigans on media,
(17:29):
you can't say that they're not and I'm not. I
love It's Dak Prescott, right, that's their quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
He's the quarterback, Dak Prescott.
Speaker 11 (17:36):
Yeah, yeah, And I'm sure he's a great guy, absolutely great,
but he's he's he's not supporting America right now.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
That's a good commentary. Now, I've never heard anybody say
one bad thing about Dak Prescott. But if you if
you don't want to one in the playoffs, he's your guy. Sorry,
Just just the facts, just the fact. The thing about
see your mother was a Cowboys fan, kind of hand
it down. They cause you to pay attention, whether it
was the hole in the roof in the stadium, the
(18:05):
original stadium before the Jerry Dome. They used to say,
we built the stadium with a hole in the roof
so God could watch Cowboys games, which never quite connected
with me. You think God could have X ray vision, right,
But that's just me. I would think things. You know,
no high school drop out. I went to full six
years star. They held out the cheerleaders. They used to win,
(18:26):
but they haven't done anything since nineteen ninety six. And
that's what pisses people off. That's what Chris cam Newton.
Speaker 11 (18:32):
At okay, and they're allowed to be mad about that
because who are relying to at this point.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
But see, here's what's interesting. That's what he says, Cowboys, Oh,
so what have you done for me lately? Nobody says
to the Atlanta Falcons, what have you done for me lately?
Because a lot of people don't care because they're not
an America's team. It's really a complicated conversation, it can be.
It all comes down to perception. Coop, your thoughts. I
thought Eddie made some excellent points in Lorena. She you know,
(18:59):
she just took up sports in the last year. But
there's an awareness there, Coop, you're going to have to
break the tie.
Speaker 12 (19:05):
I suppose it just depends on what you consider the
term America's Team.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
To mean.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
How do you define it right? How do we define it?
Speaker 12 (19:16):
Because if we're talking about level of interest, then yeah,
they're America's team and they still are because if you
look at the TV ratings, it's the Cowboys and then
a huge drop off before number two, as far as
it's true national ratings.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
So true.
Speaker 11 (19:33):
So numbers wise, they are still number one.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
More people watch them on TV cumulatively the last NFL
season than any other team including the Chiefs.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Yeah, and so it's.
Speaker 12 (19:44):
I think then when people hear the term America's team
and they get all worked up about that, it's because
it kind of implies that like all of America loves
the Cowboys, and that's definitely not the case. You just
have people watching them because they either love them, or
they want to see them lose, or just because they
are a national topic. That's a name that you know,
even if you're not a football fan, you're just a
(20:06):
casual sports fan. You know, the Dallas Cowboys. That's one
of the teams that excellent points.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Excellent points. These are realities. And believe it or not,
the Cowboys in their history have been to the Super
Bowl eight times in one to five. Now they haven't
been since ninety six, which is part of the problem.
But you know the old NFL films which are just ingenious, right,
They were narrated by a guy named John Facen who
had maybe the greatest pipes of all time, and that
(20:34):
was the opening narrative, and you can find this on YouTube.
I recommend you watch it. I think you'll find it fascinating.
But his exact line was, they appear on television so much,
so often that their faces are as familiar to the
public as presidents and movie stars. They are the Dallas Cowboys,
America's team. So all three of you brought up excellent points.
(20:57):
It's an imponderable. Where you sit is where you stand.
There is no right or wrong answer. But when Cam
Newton spouts off and has to reference the Dallas Cowboys
just to make a point about the Kansas City Chiefs,
you raise an eyebrown. When Dak Prescott makes headlines because
he's wearing a freaking boot for an ankle injury four
years ago and starts talking out of his huja like
(21:20):
you said, how are we gonna believe that you're insulting
our intelligence? We're not that stupid. Can you please stop?
This is what the Cowboys do. But all along the
way they manage to grab our attention. You know what's
grabbing our attention as well, Paul skeens, we gotta talk
about this. I gotta tell you, I gotta tell you
this is a guy you saw him win it all
(21:41):
last year for LSU in the College World Series. Dominant
gets to the big leagues. His first half numbers after
the seven inning, no hit, eleven strikeout performance earlier on Thursday.
He's pitched sixty six innings this year. He's only allowed
forty eight hits. He struck out eighty nine guys. This
is the Major leagues only walk thirteen. His average, fastball velocity,
(22:04):
his average, he's ninety nine point one miles an hour.
He had a situation earlier in the year hadn't been done.
I think in a one hundred years. He struck out
all three guys at an inning on nine pitches, and
every pitch was over one hundred miles an hour. I
got to ask the question, shouldn't he be starting in
the All Star Game? Yes? And the other thing is,
(22:24):
this is twice now they've taken Paul Skins out when
he had a no hitter deep into the game. Should
they have left him in? The easier things? Inquiring minds
like I want to know.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
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Speaker 1 (22:40):
Let's keep it here. Let you get your thoughts. It's
a two part question. Paul Schemes twice now has gone
deep into a game where there's a no hitter and
they pulled him. I get it, but it causes you
to wonder, at least have the conversation maybe should they
have kept it him in? He was already into the
(23:01):
seventh inning, He's already thrown a hundred pitches. Tough. You know,
it's tough argument, but it's worth having. The other thing
is the All Star Game is Tuesday night. Most All
Star games have sort of jumped the shark in my opinion,
but baseball is the one of the last passion. They
actually played defense, and it's a standalone game, and let's
(23:21):
face it, they'll they'll draw some eyes. But you would
think that if you want to try to continue to
grow the game, you got to give the fans what
they want to me it's a no brainer that you
start Paul Skins. He's probably only gonna pitch one inning,
but this is what the fans want. This is an
entertainment medium. What are your thoughts on both of those questions?
Speaker 5 (23:40):
Hey, well, I don't think there is look on, I'm
a Pittsburgh Pirates fan.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Believe it or not.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
Yeah, so, I think, and I'm old school.
Speaker 6 (23:49):
I think that pitchers are way too babied these days,
and I don't think there's any real data that shows
that it really works. And if you look at the
LA Dodgers, they are very, very overproductive of their pitchers
and they get.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
Hurt all the time.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
Yes, so, And plus Paul Skeen's he's going to get
some extra time off with the All Star Game coming
up if he does pitch the All Star Game, which
he should start. If he doesn't, that's ridiculous because people
want to see him. If he does pitch the All
Star Game, it's'll probably only be an ending or two
and he's going to get extra rest afterwards. So I
thought they should have left him in. I thought they
should have let him go for the no hitter and look,
(24:24):
and also as a Pirates fan, and I'm usually not
a pessimistic person, but I'm just waiting for something to
happen as far as him hurting his arm, I hope
it doesn't happen, but I guess when you're a pitcher
like he is, and you're a strikeout pitcher, at some
point it'll eventually happen, but I'm just enjoying it. While
at lasts I thought that Pirates should have left him
in too go for the no hitter, and he definitely
(24:44):
should start the All Star Game, all right.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Excellent answers to both questions, And for what it's worth.
When Paul Skeens pitched against the wake Forest last year
to win the College World Series championship game for LSU,
he threw one hundred and twenty four pitches to one
hundred twenty four pitches, so I believe he had like
one hundred and four hundred and five. Is it reasonable
to believe that in the final two innings, did he
(25:08):
finished the job? He would have thrown twenty pitches or left.
He's already proven he can do this. Or if you
get a hit, you start the inning in the eighth,
if you get a hit, you pull them. Okay, fair enough,
but you bring up a good point. In spite of
all of these, you know the load management as it were,
that the pitch counts. People are still getting hurt, people
are getting Tommy John surgeries in record numbers because what's
(25:31):
emphasized more than ever is velocity, and they're getting every
bit out of their arm they could Nolan Ryan, He said,
this is really the problem we're having before we get
to Lurana and Coop definitely want to hear what you
guys got to say. Back out to the phones, were
joined by angry Bill. Bill, good evening, good morning, depending
on your perspective, Welcome into the Ben Maler Show.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Okay, how you doing, guys, But Bill, first thing on
the first thing on this picture's schemes, I'm seventy four.
Give me a break. This guy's teams. It doesn't matter
that he came out of the game. Pirates aren't going anywhere.
Just want to come out of the game.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Are they're in the wildcard hunt?
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Bill, they're in the wildcard hunt? Yet we'll talk around
September fifteenth. Okay, all right now, okay, now let's get
onto the Dallas Cowboys America team that makes me want
to gag on my cube. Jerry Jones is a mentally
ill person. If you can become a billionaire with brains,
(26:29):
how do you not work away into having a team
that can at least get into the playoffs consistently and
win consistently and get to the super Bowl? And how
many years there's something wrong with the guy. He can't
see that he can't do the job. He can't do
the job. They're not the America's team. That's a bunch
of garbage. And it's just the way that is.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Okay, Bill, could we get you to come out of
your shell just a little bit, if we can get
you to come over the show. See, you're making our
point for us, and I respect your opinion. But because
you're pissed off, and that's okay to be pissed off.
You care enough to be pissed off, you care enough
to call therein underscores the basic point that somewhere along
the line, you've got some emotion invested in the Dallas Cowboys.
(27:13):
Is that fair?
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Emotion invested them? Yeah? When the day my giants keep
beating them, that's when my emotions the air. Okay, that's
the only time an emotion. Let me get onto this
thing with the airport stuff. I go to the airport
drop off and picked up five to seven times a day. Okay.
Anybody that goes to the airport or comes back from
the airport and you have expectations, you are stupid. There
(27:38):
is no expectations when you deal with the airports. Okay,
just don't have any expectations to show up, go peel,
a little kick the back of the chair of the rain.
Now you know, whatever you want to do, but there's
no expectations. You go to the airport, have a nice day, everybody.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Bill. That was an outstanding call. And by the way,
I'd been doing this a long time. I think we've
set a record tonight. I don't back to back calls
where someone's got to tell me about their bathroom habits.
It's all good. I don't you know. I don't have
any expectations of callers. I'm just glad you listened to
the show, Glad you took time to call. But we've
had back to back people talking about ping. Did you
(28:18):
guys all catch that talking about pan? All right, all right,
enough about that, Enough about that? Uh Lorenau Paul Skeans,
Pittsburgh Pirates Major League Baseball All Star Game. Do you
have some thoughts on this? I'm kissing you're gonna have
something clever.
Speaker 11 (28:35):
I am useless when it comes to I don't even
know who Paul's Skeens is. I like his name, cool
name bro.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Which is the cool name? The Paul are the Skiings?
Speaker 2 (28:46):
You know?
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Who he's dating, right, he's dating Olivia Dunn and Lsu.
Speaker 11 (28:52):
Gymnast huh uh you get twins. I think.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
The Thompson twins.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
I'll find it for you.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Hold on.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
So you do know that Paul Skeenes is dating Lvia Dunn.
Oh yeah, the Lsu jennast Due was recently at the
White Party with Joe Burrow. You know, one of those
something something I don't know. I don't want to start rumors.
What do I know? So Paul Skeens is kind of
kind of winning on and off the field, but in
all seriousness and all seriousness, throwing an old hitter is
(29:25):
a coveted thing in the major leagues. It just doesn't
happen anymore because they pull these guys. And I get it,
it's not about all longevity. But to Eddy's point, spot on,
in spite of the best laid plans, pictures are going
down right and left because they're trying to throw so hard.
I would have kept him in. I don't know. I mean.
And by the way, you never in this man's Major
(29:46):
league baseball. If you're five hundred on Labor Day. With
the expanded playoffs, you can't rule out that the Pittsburgh Pirates.
Could cary anything could happen. Hey, Bob Yunker wants hit
a home run off Tandy Kofax. So I'm just saying,
Coop your thoughts, Paul Skeane, Should they have ca him
in on the no hitter? And oh, by the way,
should he start in the All Star Game?
Speaker 5 (30:05):
Yes? And yes.
Speaker 12 (30:07):
I am a big proponent of keeping the pitcher in
there and to finish the game off, especially if they're
not like, you know, if you're not in uh what's
the word, I'm blinking tonight, if you're not in danger
of losing the game because he's let like you know,
four consecutive players come up to bat and hit, then keep.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
The guy in there. You're robbing the fans and right
and him.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
That's it. That's it. This is an entertainment medium. The
game is played for the fans. The game exists because
of the fans. The TV deals are because of the fans.
Right on down the line, this is a guy. He
was selected number one overall. He's lived up to the hype.
Pittsburgh is a great sports town and a very good
(30:55):
baseball town, and it's been a long time since they've
had something to really really cheer worry about by the way,
every victory matters. The Pirates are only leading one to
nothing when he was taken out. Every victory matters when
you get to September. Like Angry Bill said, we'll find out.
You know that one or two games I'll never forget
(31:16):
and Rob Parker will remember this. Recovered the two thousand
and six Tigers that went to the World Series and
lost to the Saint Louis Cardinals in five games. They
ended up going as a wildcard team. There was a
random Sunday in late July where Jim Leland decided to
arrest his starters and Rob says, if the Tigers lose
(31:37):
this game and they lose the division lead by one game,
we're going to remember this. They lost the game, and
the Minnesota Twins beat the Tigers by one game. They
had to make. They had to play an emergency playoff
game as to who would win the Al Central that year,
and the Twins won it and the Tigers lost. They
didn't win the division. They ended up actually advancing to
(31:58):
the World Series, but it was one of those deals
where every game matter. So the Pirates were only leaving
one nothing. So Paul Skeens had a second shot at
his street Thursday, and he wasn't given a chance to
finish the job. He's only started eleven games so far
in the major leagues, and it's been sensational. Seven to
no hit, no hit innings against Milwaukee on Thursday, struck
(32:21):
out eleven, walked one ninety nine pitches through one hundred
and twenty four in the World Series last year. Second
time this year he's taking a no hitter deep into
the game. And look, in the seventh inning he only
threw six pitches he was dealing man. Now, because he's
(32:42):
a strike on pitcher, it's possible he would have needed
well over one hundred and twenty pitches to finish the job,
because you got to have right three pitches to strike
out a hitter, all right, So maybe they factor that
into it. But he's already in the conversation right now
for the best pitcher in the game. What he's done.
It's era is one point nine. Now he hasn't thrown
(33:04):
enough innings to be qualified for the er title. He's
only got like sixty six innings this year. He's going
to get to be you have to have another one
hundred and by the way, if voters want to vote
for him on the Cym Award, they can still do it.
So look, this is a guy striking out twelve batters
for every nine innings. I believe he should start in
the All Star Game. I agree with that. And the
(33:26):
tooth of the matter is I think the fans were
truly denied. They could have marched him out to the
eighth inning and said, listen, let's see how it starts,
and if you throw six pitches in the eighth inning,
well we got to keep you in. But that's in
this new era of baseball analytics, which is in some
sense is killing the game. Let's be hoest. Okay, this
game is played by human beings. You have to take
(33:48):
each individual case. You know. You can't relegate everything to
a computer, right, yeah, all right? Six simple words? Six
simple words. What did Angel Reese say, which he was
asked the other day about playing with Caitlin Clark and
their upcoming All Star Game. I'll share it with you.
(34:12):
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worst was Kershaw getting pulled after seven perfect innings against
the Twins. He wasn't laboring at all. Twenty more pitches
wouldn't have caused any harm more than normal usage. I
(35:22):
remember that actually quite well when that happened. All right,
so obviously, you know, unless you've been on Mars or
just not paying attention. The Angel Reese Caitlin Clark, two
p's in a pod. How do I characterize this rivalry?
(35:42):
I guess has been all the rage in the WNBA,
no doubt about it. But they're gonna play together on
the All Star team against the team the other All
Star team that is comprised of the players that were
selected to go play in the Olympics. This might be
a must watch. It's coming up on July twentieth. So
(36:04):
the other day when Angel Reeson was asked, and by
the way, they're the two most well known figures in
maybe the whole damn sports world right now. Just the
other day, Reese joined a show called NBA to Day
to discuss her feelings. I'm playing with Caitlyn Clark later
this month. And what didn't she say? Six world? Well,
six words When asked about playing with Caitlin Clark, she said, quote,
(36:27):
it's going to be really cool. Hey, that's cool, that's
not bad. Quote. I know so many fans are going
to come out to watch both of us being able
to be in that environment. We're going to be playing
together for a while. This is not going to be
the last time re Saturday. I know we'll be all
starts again. I know hopefully twenty twenty eight will be
Olympians together too. Look, I thought that was really cool.
(36:50):
It's awesome to see Angel Reese praising Caitlin Clark when
you consider their on court rivalry. I know people are
getting off on this hate and going back and forth
or whatever the hell slamming people in the back. Look.
I remember when Mark McGuire and Sammy Sosa had the
famous home run chase in nineteen ninety eight. They were
dogging each other, they were kind of rooting for each other,
(37:12):
and it became a story because of the performance on
the field. This should still be a story based on
the performance on the court. Much too much has been
made of the hate going back and forth, or it's
really kind of one way hate. But you get the drift.
Maybe this settles in. Their product's been better than ever
and they're bringing a lot of eyeballs to the game
coming up. You know what, you love it? You can't
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