July 15, 2024 • 41 mins
Bernie Fratto fills in for Big Ben and welcomes Clippers Talk host Adam Ausland to talk about the state of Los Angeles' other team, the decline of the MLB All-Star Game, What Kind of Brand New Fool Are You?, and What My Name?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:32):
Let's welcome in, gentlemen, very articulate, very knowledgeable. On the
NBA pre and post for the Los Angeles Clippers, say
hello to Adam Oslin. Adam, welcome in.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
How are you, Bernie. I'm in my pajamas. I'm park
in an undisclosed location in Burbank. I'm in my car
because I don't want to disturb my apartment dwellers. As
I scream into my phone, I want to do this
for you late night. I appreciate you hadding me on.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Well, this will be the first to Mini and you
do a really good job. And as you know, I'm
sitting in for Ben Mallar tonight. And Ben Maller is
the torch bearer for the Los Angeles Clippers and one
just one time, if the NBA gots could just one time,
thill the Clippers have bone for crying out loud. I
want to start out with the Paul George situation. You
hear lots of reports and I feel like this book's
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missing a chapter. Could the Clippers really have kept Paul
George if they didn't wanted them bad enough? Or did
he just want out? What happened? And I'll tell you
why I'm asking him a minute. What really happened there?
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Well, it stings like the bumper music you brought me
into here to start this segment off. But this is
a situation where the Clippers were not willing to go
and pay him more than what Kawhi Leonard got. When
Kawhi Leonard got paid the one to fifty over three years,
a three year extension in January, that was basically setting
the market for the Clippers roster. They were saying, anybody
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else James Harden being an unrestricted free agent, Paul George
now being an unrestricted free agent, was going to take
than Kawhi Leonard. So I think that was a clear signal,
we're not paying you more than the best player on
this team. And eventually that MAX contract was waiting for
Paul George via the Philadelphia seventy Sixers. I think he
and his agent knew the entire time that that MAX
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was going to be there, because look, the Sixers at
the trade deadline, they didn't use any of their cap rooms.
They made sure they had it available for this cover.
They were sending all the signals from their GM. I
do think that does a good job. But Daryl Moore
and the Philadelphia seventy Sixers were dead set on getting
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Paul George. So unless the Clippers were going to match
or come close to it, I just think it was
an untenable situation. I'm not sure anyone lost in this negotiation.
I just think it was you know, sometimes things run
their course, and the Clippers were only going to pay
so much for Paul George.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Well said, I agree with everything and the way you
laid that out, and I'm not a Paul George guy.
You can have him, Okay. We went through this with
three summers ago with OKC, and then the Clippers now
they're gonna win a damn thing in Philadelphia. It just
he had so many word sounds going out the doors.
What do you believe. What don't you believe? Secondly, I
was shocked at Kawhi Leonard found his way onto the
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Olympic team. As of Tuesday, they were talking about unrestricted
minutes and right on schedule. The next day there's an
injury and he's out. How do the Clippers feel about
the way Kawhi end of the season completely unavailable and
then he shows up with bells on for the Olympics
and now this, what are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Well, look, nobody is more frustrated I know this than
Kawhi Leonard, who puts in a tremendous amount of work
to get his body physically able to play. He played
almost seventy games this season, and then that right knee
that's gone through an ACL injury, that's gone through a
meniscus injury, started to swell up. It happened about three
weeks before the playoffs. A lot of people at the
time were suspicious that, oh, they're just trying to save
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him for that first row. I pushed back upon that
because they had a huge game against the Denver Nuggets
with seating implications, and when he didn't play that night,
I knew something was off with Kawhi Leonard, so the
injury is legit. He tried to give it a go
against the Dallas Mavericks thirty at one point in Game
three where he looked like a shell of himself. He
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was hanging from the rim, afraid to drop to the
floor because the impact on his right knee. So the
guy has pushed through some stuff. Now, my knowledge was
he had gone through a little bit of training. He
had gone through some workouts. They were watching him closely
and monitoring him before the Olympics, and he looked good
or good enough to give it a go. Lawrence Frank
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was there, Steve Kerr was there, Coach lou was there.
They were all monitoring the situation. It was a collective effort.
So I wasn't shocked that he tried to give it
a go. I know this was a bucket listing for
Kawhi Leonard to try to get a gold medal. But
I also wasn't shocked that he wasn't able to complete
the here and look, I'm sure the Clippers and Clipper Nation,
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you know a lot of people in Clipper Nation were
saying they just didn't want to see him play because
he hadn't finished the last four seasons because of injuries,
and they want to more wear and tear on his body.
My real concern at this point with Kawhi is, you
know how long has that need been swollen? Now? What's
going on with that right needs to me that's a
little bit more alarming than anything, because there's one or
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two options. He either left the Olympics because he looked
pretty good but they just want to save him for
game one of the regular season, or he just didn't
look that great out there and they want to make
sure they've saved him from himself. He doesn't exacerbate the
injury at all. And look, I understand the criticism of
him playing in the Olympics when he couldn't finish the season,
but I thought of it like this, if we're going
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to find out about his knee and what's going on
with it, I'd rather find out now during the summer,
the game one of the regular season. So I was
for him giving it a.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Shot, all right, fair enough, And just to set the
record straight at him, I've been a Kawhi guy since
his days at San Diego State. I love the guy
and I agree with everything you just said. What threw
me and perhaps I didn't articulate my question clearly enough,
was what happened at the end of the season when
they really needed him, and then subsequently shows up for
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the Olympics. It's like the guy who calls in sick
for work, can't make it to work, but then shows
up that night at the bar at the company party,
lighting the place up. It just didn't sit right with me.
What are we doing here? I mean, the Clippers are
moving into the new Arena next year. I was stupid
enough to buy into the Paul George thing two summers ago.
I really believe and I feel like Steve Balmer is
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a good guy. The basketball guys need to throw him
a bone. So now you're heading into the new Arena
with no Paul George and Kawhi To your point, whose knee?
There still seems to be question marks. What's the outlook
for the Clippers as you head into your new building
this year?
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Well, I understand the optics of it. He couldn't finish
the season, but he tries to play in the Olympics.
But my thinking is, if he's healthy, he should play.
He wasn't healthy in the playoffs. He was he thought
he was healthy enough to play in the Olympics. He
can't pick and choose when he's feeling good, when he
feels right, And he did try to play against Dallas,
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and like I said, it was almost scary. After that
first stint in Game three, I thought they should pull
him because it looked like he lost all his basketball powers.
But moving forward this season without Paul George and by
the way, Bernie, I do have to say a lot
of what's gone wrong with this Clippers team has been
outside of their control. It's been everything they couldn't control
with all these injuries. Kawhi Leonard has missed one hundred
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and seventy eight games as a Clipper. Paul George missed
a hundred and thirty three. There were some injury concerns
when they brought him in twenty nineteen. Nobody could have
foreseen anything like this playing out, and now Paul George
is gone. What I've noticed right away was they brought
in Derek Jones Junior on that Sunday when free agent
when free agency opened, Dance who he locked up in
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that first round. Paul George, he was playing for Dallas
when they made that runs to the finals and held
PG thirteen to nineteen points per game in that first
round series and look like an all world defender. I
think the Clippers are trying to lead in his defense. Now,
they're trying to have more of a defensive identity. There's
rumors of Chris Dunn coming now, Nicholas Batum is back
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with them. So if you have a healthy Kawhi, if
it's a big one, I understand that. But if you
have him with James Harden, you still have enough firepower
on offense. What can you do defensively? Because they were
not good on the defensive end at all this past season.
The last seventy games they were twenty first in defense,
believe it or not, even though they were still the
four seed in the Western Conference, because their offense was
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unbelievable when they were clicking on all cylinders. So going
into the new building, I really think it's about that
defensive DNA and that identity they're trying to build just
with what they have left with superstar power with Kawhi
and James Harden, surround them and insulate them with great defenders,
and maybe if you bring in more wings like this,
Kawhi doesn't have to do as much on the defensive end.
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Therefore you saved some of that wear and tear on
his right knee.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
And by the way, one last thing about Kawhi not
to belabor it, which is exactly what I'm doing. I
was told from a source I trust, when he walked
into camp, the Olympic camp, he had a leg sleeve
on and win a slight limp. Is that the best
thing for him to do to go on that international
grind if he's walking with a slight limp and in
a lake sleeve.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Well, I saw the video of him in the sleeve
and then he ended up. It looked like he had
on his right leg when he was walking in, but
then he had sleeves on both legs. Look, I'm not
a doctor. I know he has his own medical team.
They have the Clippers training staff. He did go through
some workouts before being there. Again, I'd rather find out
now if something else is going on, if that dwelling's
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not going down, then waiting till game one of the
regular season. Because Kawhi didn't play five on five during
the offseason, a lot of the AAU guys were brought
up that way. They don't go five on five until
it's on in the regular season, so he's just not
gonna know how taxing it is and how his knee
recovers from strenuous workouts until you get in a setting
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like that. And he was playing some five on five
obviously with Team USA. So I don't think it was
the worst thing in the world to give it a
test run there to figure out what's going on.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Okay, fair enough, you're closer to the situation. I take
you at your word, and I hope the Clippers sell
out their building. I'm going to get to a game
there this year, and I hope it's not half empty.
Just got about a minute. I'd like you to weigh
in on Bronnie. I'm not going to bash Bronnie here.
I'm maintaining my objectivity. I've said all along, if you've
got leverage in life, use it. But here's the reality, Adam.
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If I get you a job as a lifeguard, because
I have connections and you look the part, and I'm
told you can act the part, one of these days,
someone's gonna be flailing in the pool and you're gonna
jump in and we're all gonna find out if you
can swim. I don't think it's a fluke. He's zero
for twelve from behind the arc. We are told he
can have but it's all theoreticals because we've never seen
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it behind closed doors. You saw the meme. I'm sure
you saw the meme. Adam of Rob Polinka kind of smirking.
And now you know, everybody from Gilbert Arenas to you know,
mother Teresa's taking shots at BROWNI now, behind the scenes,
what's the narrative. We got to be patient or all
we might have some buyers remorse.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
I mean, obviously, if you're a Lakers fan and you're
hoping for the best that he can turn things around,
because he's six for twenty six and as you mentioned,
twelve from three so far in the summer league, you
just want to see some signs, some positive signs in
the summer league. That's it. You can't put a lot
into it, but you want to see maybe a little
bit of progress, and he could pretty much only go
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up from here. It's been that bad so far. I'll
give him this. Defensively, he's been decent, he's been okay.
I just think he's behind the eight ball in so
many different ways here, Bernie. I don't blame Lebron wanting
to play with his son. I don't blame the Lakers
wanting to bring him in. This for everybody upset about
nepotism like he isn't rampant and throughout the NBA and
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throughout sports already, Jannis's brother, Jalen Brunton's dad being an
assistant coach Dwayne Wade getting his son drafted by a
team he's a part owner of with the Utah Jazz.
This stuff happens. I mean, Jim Buss was vice president
of basketball operations with the Los Angeles Lakers. What experience
did Jim Buss have. Oh, he's part Owner's.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
In the right stomach at the right time. His dad
was Jared. We get all that. I mean, I'm not
debating any of that. And with all the respect, and
we're gonna have you on. I'm gonna I want you
to be a regular on my show. Look, you saw
Reed Shepherd ride Browning like a stick horse. I'm not
saying that Bronni's not given an effort. And he's pretty
strong and he's tough, he's trying. He's just not an
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NBA player, not today. But you got the last word.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
He's six ' one unless he's Tony Allen with the
level of defense that he used to play for the
Memphis Grizzlies at that size in today's NBA, if you
don't have a handle like CP three and you're that short,
if you can't shoot from the IQ, you better be
an elite defender. And so far he hasn't shown enough
on that end.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Thousand percent. You basically took the took the words out
of my mouth. I mean, he clearly you know he's
not and they don't see him as a facilitator. He
doesn't he doesn't bring the ball off the floor. He
doesn't shoot well enough to be a number two. And
I'm okay with the Tony Allen references. The problem is
Tony Allen was a stud at Oklahoma State. He had
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a body at worked before he got to the NBA.
I have seen it. I haven't seen it. Hey, thanks
so much, my man. What do you got like flannel Pajamason?
You know, finished the thought for us. What kind of
pajamas do you have?
Speaker 4 (13:43):
I'm in my damn boxers here in the taktop. I
look like a c slater or something like that from
baseide and saved by the bell.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
You're probably are you allowed to say wife Peter anymore?
Am I going to be in trouble if I say that?
You said it?
Speaker 5 (13:58):
Not me?
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Bernie?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
All right, Joey your reading? Thanks for coming on, Bud,
all right.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Thanks.
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They used to call it the Midsummer Classic. I don't
know what they call it now, but boy, how things
have changed. Tuesday night is the Major League Baseball All
Star Game, and to say I think the bloom was
off the rows and some of the luster has been
lost would be an understatement. This was at one time
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an incredibly glorious event and it has frankly, a very rich,
interesting history with a very I think a curious origin story.
The first official Major League baseball game was played way
back in nineteen thirty three July six. It was held
at Comiskey Park in Chicago, and the only reason they
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did it was because a writer for the Chicago Tribune
by the name of arch Ward came up with this idea.
He was a sports editor of the Chicago Tribune, and
the World's Fair was coming to Chicago that year, and
arch Ward thought it would be a great idea if
you could create this one time only exhibition game between
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the American League Stars and the National League Stars. And
the game was also intended to be an opportunity to
try to boost morale. We were in the midst of
the Great Depression in nineteen thirty three, and the fans
selected the players and the manager selected the some of
the backups, and it was called the Game of the Century,
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and there were fifty five media credentials from across the country,
and there were fifty thousand people there, and they had
gate receiats, and of course, right on schedule. Babe Ruth
of the Yankees highlights the game by hitting the first
ever home run in All Star Game history, and the
rest is history. That's the department, every dunacy department. Fast
forward to twenty twenty four, and I'm curious as to
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anybody if anybody gives a flying horses petuit about the
Major League Baseball All Star Game. I think all Star
games in general, maybe you have jumped the sharp. You
saw what has happened to the Pro Bowl. That's just
become a complete abortion. Now it's a flag football game,
and before that it was a flag football game in pads.
And now they have kind of a skills petition that
they've cobbled this thing together. The NBA All Star Games
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a joke. They don't play any defense, and the NHL
All Same is fine, but the game ends up being
seventeen to fifteen, right, So there's no for checking, there's
no backchecking, there's no fight. It's it's hockey, and it's graceful,
skillful hockey, but it's not real hockey, if you get
my drift. At least in the Major League Baseball All
Star Game. There's defense, and you might very well see
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a defensive highlight on Tuesday, a great catcher. You're not
gonna see Pete Rose running into Ray Fossey. No, and
you're no longer the game is no longer deciding who
will have the home field advantage in the World Series
or yeah, the playoffs. Excuse me, but what you also
might have with some history being made because Paul Skeens
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was announced he will be the starting pitcher for the
National League, and I'm guessing he's gonna face probably Aaron Judge,
Juan Soto and Gunner Henderson, and tell me you're not
gonna watch that first half numbers. He's only the fifth
rookie to start the game in history. The last one
to do it Hedeo Nomo in nineteen ninety five had
quite a line by the way he had Mark Fitterch
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in nineteen seventy six. Do you remember the bird for
anan of Ali z Wheala in eighty one? Skiing's first
half numbers after his seven inning no hit gym that
he got yanked from Thursday when he struck out eleven,
He's pitched sixty six innings. He struck out eighty nine
guys only given up forty eight hits. His average fastball
he's ninety nine miles an hour, his area is one
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point nine, and opponents you're hitting two to two. This
might be a little bit of a must watch because
of Paul Skeens. But here's the thing. Something about this
game has lost fluster because if a local NBC affiliate
in Dallas published fifty fun facts about the All Star
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Game in history, I'm gonna share some of these with
you and tell me if you see a pattern. Okay,
Hank Aaron, Willie Mays, and stand usual. They've all played
in the most All Star Games at twenty four. Willie
Mays has the most hits in All Star Game history
with twenty three. Charlie Garrenger, a guy who played for
the freaking Tigers back in the thirties, He has the
most played appearances twenty nine. Lefty Gomez leads all All
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Star pitchers and wins with three. Okay, maybe a little
more recent Roger Clements had pitched in the most All
Star Games ten appearances. Where am I going with that?
Every single one of those notable achievements happened before electricity
nothing new, so there has been luster and then to
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make it worse. And this makes my teeth ititch. Have
you seen the picture of this year's Major League Baseball
All Star jerseys? Are you kidding me? They don't look
like Major League Baseball All Star jerseys. They look like
bowling shirts. They look like Beer League Softball bowling shirt
jerseys that you'd find on a Tuesday night, Beard League
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Softball League. And oh, by the way, if you want
to buy one, a cool one hundred and ninety four
dollars and there's nothing distinctive. I used to think it
was the coolest thing. Look what the Allen said it best.
Nostalgia is a trap, all right. People are nostalgic about baseball.
It is, in fact America's pastime. True, it's handed down
from fathers and sons. You learn there's a Walter Mitty
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aspect of baseball. Most people played it, at least in
the little league. And when they announced the starting lineups,
and they announced their rosters and they line up on
their respective first and third base base lines, I always
thought it was the most novel thing that they were
in their regular home uniforms, or that the home team
would be in the visiting team would be in their
visiting uniforms. But when it comes to twenty twenty four,
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this is a year to forget. When it comes to
uniforms in Major League Baseball, you saw what happen in
spring training. This does not look like to me a
very well google it. You can see it for yourself.
Now it's I can't come up with a clever adjective
to accurately describe how disappointing these look when you're talking
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about what you would hope the results would be. And
I'm not batching on Nike. Nike, Nike, you know designed
these things and someone signed off on it. But the
market will always decide. And I still think you just
you should bring back the regular team jerseys for the
All Star Game. Right, Maybe these jerseys would be fine
for when the fans show up these are during batting
practice of workouts, or maybe when they take batting practice
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open to the public on Monday, or maybe for the
homown derby, but not for the game, all right. Twitter
wasted no time in reacting. One Twitter guy showed an
old picture of or one tweet would showed an older
picture of a past All Star game with the old
Chicago White Sox, Royals, Angels, Twins, Yankees. Kind of cool.
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And it said the captions that we used to be
a civilized society, all right. Another guy puts a hate
being to get off my long guy, But Major League
Baseball is not helping here. These are pitiful, not exactly
ringing endorsements. I understand it's all about money and selling
merch following what the other leagues do, but man, please
just have them wear their respective teams uniforms out there.
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Always thought it was cool seeing the different looks on
the field together. This was a unique thing major League
Baseball had going Somebody named Brian Simmon. That's a good,
thoughtful tweet, happy quote. Major League Baseball drop yet another
jersey that the entirety of the internet is going to
hate to those who celebrate people don't like them. Another tweeter,
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how about just going back to the respective team uniforms.
People will often react or some of the name alex Is.
People will often overreact when talking about how terrible jerseys are.
But these are legitimately the worst I've ever seen. Absolutely
nothing about them is unique or even creative. It's kind
of impressive how how bad they are starting to buy
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into the idea that Rob Manfred and Nike are in
cahoots to destroy Major league perception. What are we doing? Man?
Ninety percent of the City connects are embarrassing. All star
uniforms are egregious. Every year these are terrible. Please bring
back teams where in the usual uniforms you get the
picture you eat detective pattern here.
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Speaker 3 (23:18):
Jogibera once said, you can observe a lot by watching,
and that's exactly what we do. And around this great
country of ours, and frankly, around the globe the planet,
people do things. They engage in behaviors, and these behaviors
catch your attention. And sometimes these behaviors are just kind
of silly and innocuous and not that big a deal,
although times they're more mischievous, and many times they're serious.
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They're criminal. They can even land you in jail. But
any way you slice it, any way you describe it,
any way you characterize it, these behaviors they always leave
us scratching our heads and asking ourselves, what kind of
brand new fool are you?
Speaker 2 (24:02):
So what kind of brand new fool are you?
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Well, this one, I know I say this sometimes, but
this one I really think is the weirdest one I've
ever done. First of all, I don't think we've ever
taken it to Taiwan. And I will tell you that
insurance scams are as old as man, but this one
really takes the cake. We get together a couple of friends,
a couple of Taiwanese gentlemen named Zang and Low, and
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they decide they're going to defraud an insurance company out
a one million dollars because well, they need the money.
They are a couple of college students and by the way,
they apparently maybe have some bills to pay and they
need the money, and so they're gonna break the law
and they're gonna scam some insurance company. But how they
did it is where they really become even bigger brand
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new fools. Well, turns out that their grand plan was
to contract frostbite on their leg eggs and thus have
their legs partially amputated, file the insurance claim, collect the money,
and everybody goes home happy. Well, they showed up, had
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a hospital, sure enough, they had frostbite, sure enough, they
had to have their legs amputated below their knees. But
for something was very very wrong here, and the hospital
wasn't buying it, and the hospital contacted what was known
as the Taiwanese Criminal Investigation Bureau.
Speaker 7 (25:33):
S it.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
It's not that they didn't have frostbite, but you are
in a situation in that part of the world where
you've got a subtropical climate and you don't get frostbite
in Taiwan. They got frostbite all right, because they had
had their legs in a box full of dry ice
in a plastic bucket, which brought the whole thing down right. Well,
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an investigation was underway. They somehow managed to collect a
seventy two hundred dollars insurance payout, but they were denied
additional claims because the timing was so soon after the
policies went into effect. That raised the insurance company's suspicions.
And oh, by the way, again, you don't get frostbite
in Taiwan. What happened next, well, they were criminally charged,
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facing criminal fraud charges because again Taiwan is a subtropical region.
In cases a severe frostbite requiring amputation due to any
kind of climate factor there is completely unheard of. And
by the way, these guys didn't take one insurance policy out.
It took eight insurance policies out. These were just days
before they submersed their legs in buckets of dry ice
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for ten hours each. Now they're facing jail time. They
got no insurance payout, and they both had their legs
amputated below the knees, which leads you to ask yourself, Zen, Allow,
what kind of brand do fool are you?
Speaker 2 (27:00):
You?
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Mark? I guess you could say when they went to
court they didn't have a leg to stand on. Oh,
it said, who writes this stuff? All right? That allows
us to segue into our second favorite bit that we
lovingly referred to as what my name? And we got
a crack crew to bring it. Here we go, all right.
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In my seventeen year Major League baseball career, I was
actually an MVP and a World Series MVP, but I
never played in a single All Star Game? Adie Garcia,
What my name?
Speaker 7 (27:39):
Oh boy? Do we have any kind of a time frame?
This is just baseball history.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
He made his debut in the major leagues in eighty one.
Speaker 7 (27:50):
Hold on, Mark, hold on, go ahead, Bernie.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
He made his debut in eighty one and played seventeen
years for multiple teams.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
Hey, that narrows it down.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
His most notable time was with the Dodgers. Well, actually
the Dodgers and on the Tigers.
Speaker 7 (28:08):
Oh uh, Dodgers and Tigers. Well to see, the first
name that pops in my mind is Kirk Gibson.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
You got it, Kirk Gibson. Of course, Kirk hit two
of the four famous Sobrons.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
Why don't you just ask for his initials to Eddie.
Speaker 7 (28:23):
Don't be jealous.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Think about it, though, guys, because Kirk was the MVP
of the nineteen eighty eight World Series. Even with one
at bat. He was seventeen years not a single All
Star Game. He had some good you know, good good
years with the Tigers too. All right, moving along, since
we are kind of in this all Star game theme.
In my baseball career, I struck out seventeen times in
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the All Star Game, an all time Major League record. Coop,
what my name? I'll give you a clue, Coop. He
was a New York Yankee. Derek Jeter, not Derek Jeter.
In my career, I struck out seventeen times accumulatively in
Major League Baseball All Star Games, which is a Major
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League Baseball record. Mark Ramsey, what my name?
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Willie Randolph?
Speaker 3 (29:17):
I love the name, Not Willie Randolph. Seventeen strikeouts in
the All Star Game, the all time record, Eddie Arcia.
What my name?
Speaker 7 (29:25):
Reggie Jackson?
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Well, that's a good one. Not Reggie Jackson. It's actually
Mickey Mannle. Mickey Mannle. Reggie has the distinction of striking
out two thousand, five hundred and sixty eight times in
his career, the most of any player. That's twice as
many as Babe Ruth. All right, Moving along the All
Star Game theme, I'm the only Major League Baseball player
in history to win an All Star Game MVP and
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a World Series MVP in the same season. Mark Ramsey,
what my name?
Speaker 7 (29:57):
Rusty Stob I love it.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Lagron Darnce love Rusty stop got rest his soul. I'm
the only Major League Baseball player in history to win
an All Star Game MVP and a World Series MVP
in the same season. H Coop, What my name? Hmm?
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Madison Bumgarter. Madison Bumgarn. That's actually not a bad guess,
because he had three all right Giants ten, twelve and fourteen,
only Major League Baseball player in history to win the
All Star Game MVP in the World Series MVP in
the same season.
Speaker 7 (30:44):
Eddie Garcia, what my name, I'll go Derek Jeter.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
It is Derek Jeter did it back in two thousand.
All right, nicely done. We're gonna flip the football. I'm
a former Dallas Cowboy head coach, but I flew thirty
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combat missions during World War Two. Mark Ramsey, what my name?
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Tom Landry?
Speaker 3 (31:16):
It is, in fact Tom Landry, the Great Tom Landry. Now,
I'm a former Dallas Cowboy quarterback, and I also was
in the military. In fact, I fought in Vietnam. Coop,
what my name.
Speaker 7 (31:33):
In Vietnam?
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Fought in Vietnam?
Speaker 5 (31:39):
I was gonna say Roger Stabach.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
But well it is Roger Stobach. Good thing he said that. Wow,
you guys are just showing off now, so let's switch
to the w NBA. Angel Reese just broke my record
of twelve consecutive double doubles. Eddie Garcia, what my.
Speaker 7 (31:59):
Name, Let's go with Lisa Leslie.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
What's the next one? Guess is not Lisa Leslie? Inje
Reese just broke my record of twelve consecutive double doubles.
Mark Ramsey, What my name, Caitlin Clark, No, she actually
had five. I think at Steve Street got broken tonight
or Saturday night. Angel Reese just broke my record in
the WNBA of twelve consecutive double doubles. Ah Coop, What
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my name.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
Candace Parker?
Speaker 3 (32:33):
It is Kandace Parker. Nice? He done? All right, let's
go back to the national pastime. In my baseball career,
I have twenty six leadoff home runs, the most of
any active Major League Baseball player. Eddie Garcia. What my name,
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Kyle Schwarber, Kyle Schwarber, is it actually done? Hit that?
Think it was? What went there Thursday night? Hit that
opposite field dinner in the first pitch of the game.
That was his twenty sixth. All right, sticky with baseball. Well,
the Phillies are striving to win a World Series this year. Well,
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the last time the Phillies won the World Series, I
was their manager, Mark Ramsey. What my name?
Speaker 7 (33:26):
I'm sure it wasn't Bob Lemon.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Not Bob Lemon, one of the greats. Oh I love
Bob Lemon. He once he took over for Billy Martin,
A couple times, and one said the most important things
in life are close friends in a good bullpen. That
was Bob Lemon. All right. The last time the Phillies
won the World Series, I was the manager, Coop. What
my name.
Speaker 7 (33:48):
Charlie Manuel?
Speaker 3 (33:49):
It is Charlie Manuel. Nicely done two thousand and eight.
You guys are killing it tonight, all right, Ed, He's
gonna get this one. This is right up his Alli.
We just recently finished the Stanley Cup finals. The Canadians
once again shut out the last time a Canadian based
NHL team won the Stanley Cup, I was the head coach,
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Eddie Garcia. What my name eow?
Speaker 7 (34:15):
That would be Jack de Mares.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
I knew you'd get it. I know it's against your Kings, Eddie.
I will never forget true story. I was in a
hotel room in Detroit when Martin McSorley scored the goal.
I said, God darn it, they're gonna win the Stanley Cup.
And then Jack Demrez had the curve stick the goal
was disallowed. The Canadians, Remember the Kings opened up on
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the road. They won Game one. They were about to
beat Montreal twice in Montreal. Go home with the two
Elite and they did crazy, crazy crazy. All right, we
are all sick of hearing the term dream Team, but
we're sending a team to Paris to win the gold medal,
which I believe they will. They've been favorably compared to
the Dream Team. I'm not so sure. The Dream Team
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had twelve Hall of Famers in nineteen cumulative championships, and
they had a real pan about them. In fact, I
was the leading scorer on the nineteen ninety two Basketball
Dream Team. Mark Ramsey, what my name?
Speaker 4 (35:18):
I need to disqualify myself because I know the answer.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
All right, let's move along it.
Speaker 7 (35:24):
Why do you need to disqualify with yourself?
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Well, I can't lie. I used this recently on my
show Eddie Oh, and I wanted I wanted to. I
wanted to include the theme because we're in the Olympics.
So Mark probably knows. Mark's probably heard me give the answer.
Speaker 7 (35:38):
What an honest man?
Speaker 3 (35:39):
An honest man? Yes he is. I was a leading
scorer in the nineteen ninety two Basketball Dream Team. Coop,
what my name?
Speaker 5 (35:48):
I feel like this is a like a trap question.
It is a little bit so I'm gonna say, Charles Barkley,
it is.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Charles Park that's outstanding. People think you know what he's enjoyed.
Was it Bird? Was it was Charles Barkley? All right,
this is random, but it's real. You know, it's not
uncommon that a Major League Baseball player will hit two
home runs in the same game as a switch hitter,
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one on each side of the plate. Well, I'm the
most recent Major leaguer to homer from each side of
the plate in the same game. Eddie Garcia what my name?
Speaker 7 (36:26):
Well, I did this in my updates, so I'll actually
know it.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
It's Cal rawle of nicely done, Eddie, nicely done. He
just did it the other day. If I'm not mistaken,
I'll stand it.
Speaker 7 (36:37):
All right.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
We talked about Paul Skins starting the Major League Baseball
All Star Game as a rookie, only the fifth one
to do it. I'm the last rookie to start be
the starting pitcher in the Major League Baseball All Star Game.
Mark Ramsey, what my name?
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Satchel Page.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
But I didn't mention this guy earlier in the show,
so I guess you got I believe you guys are
gonna get it. I'm the last rookie pitcher to start
in the Major League Baseball All Star Game. It's part
of Paul Skeans, of course, Coop, what my name?
Speaker 7 (37:08):
Nolan Ryan, Not Nolan Ryan.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Not Nolan Ryan. I am the last rookie to be
the starting pitcher in the Major League Baseball All Star Game.
Of course, again prior to Paul Skeans, Eddie Garcia. What
my name?
Speaker 7 (37:23):
I don't remember you mentioned him earlier in the show,
so maybe I missed if. I'm gonna go with Dwight Gooden.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Not Dwight Gooden. He's actually his Dalen Nomo back in
nineteen ninety five, and he had quite the stat line.
Two innings, pitch, one hit, struck out, three, did not
give up a run. Quite the stat line. All right,
we stick with baseball. I'm the first shortstop in Major
League Baseball history to be a member of the thirty
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thirty club. Mark Ramsey, what my name?
Speaker 1 (37:55):
I'm gonna stick with my last answer, Don Kessinger.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
I love it. It is not bomb Don cass As,
your former Chicago Cub shortstop not necessarily known for his
hitting prowess. All right, I'm the first shortstop in Major
League Baseball history to join the thirty thirty club. Coop.
What my name?
Speaker 5 (38:20):
I feel like I would get this if I had
more time, but since I don't, I'm just gonna throw
a good name out there.
Speaker 7 (38:27):
Raphael for Call.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Oh, that's a good name. It's not Raephael for Call, though.
I'm the first shortstop in Major League Baseball history to
join the thirty thirty Club. Eddie Garcia, What my.
Speaker 7 (38:36):
Name is it? Alex Rodriguez, Not Alex Rodriguez.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
He played before Rodriguez. I'll give you guys a couple
of clues. Played his college basketball back, try that again
in English. Played his college baseball at the University of Michigan.
Then his third basement at University of Michigan was Chris Sabo,
who was also his third baseman. Oh, I know it
is now, go ahead, Eddie.
Speaker 7 (39:00):
Barry Larkin.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Barry Larkin, well done, Well done. Also, by the way,
also a high school All American player at more Or
High School in Cincinnati. Okay, let's do one more for posterity.
In the history of the National Basketball Association. I have
had more turnovers than anybody. Mark Ramsey, what my name?
Speaker 7 (39:26):
Darryl Dawkins.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
From the planet Lovetron, Not Darryl Dawkins. Chocolate Thunder. One
of the funniest human beings going in the history of
the National Basketball Association. I've had more turnovers than anybody.
Coop with my name.
Speaker 5 (39:41):
Well, we did this one on Friday, So I'm gonna say,
Lebron James.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
Very good. I want to see if you guys could
get that. All right? We can't end on that one.
And we can't end on that one? Or can't or
should we? I don't know, should we or not?
Speaker 7 (39:56):
No?
Speaker 3 (39:57):
Okay, good, let's do let's do one more. Okay, you
guys get this one. It's big time, but I think
you're gonna get it. Okay. Back in the two thousand
and three NBA draft, Lebron James was the number one pick.
Everybody knows that he was the number one pick in
the two thousand and three NBA draft, but I was
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the number two pick. Eddie Garcia, what my name?
Speaker 7 (40:23):
Darko?
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Oh nicely done, Eddie. That is big time, Darko militic.
There's a whole backstory there, which I actually have time
to tell, but I'm not gonna tell that. I know
Joe Dumars took a lot of heat. You could have
seen Darko workout at seventeen and so he was Victor
Wmbyama maybe better. But he went to work for Larry Brown.
They didn't get along. Darko was underage, drinking in the bars.
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He was a lousy practice player. He fell into disfavor,
ended up spending eleven twelve years in the league Human
victory Cigar and people say, well, why didn't you draft
d Wade. Well, they didn't need d Way. They had
a backcourt there. They just they had just been in
the finals the year before. Anyway, long story, Dharko will
go down and infamy as one of those guys
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
This is the best of the Ben Maler Show on
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Speaker 3 (00:32):
Let's welcome in, gentlemen, very articulate, very knowledgeable. On the
NBA pre and post for the Los Angeles Clippers, say
hello to Adam Oslin. Adam, welcome in.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
How are you, Bernie. I'm in my pajamas. I'm park
in an undisclosed location in Burbank. I'm in my car
because I don't want to disturb my apartment dwellers. As
I scream into my phone, I want to do this
for you late night. I appreciate you hadding me on.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Well, this will be the first to Mini and you
do a really good job. And as you know, I'm
sitting in for Ben Mallar tonight. And Ben Maller is
the torch bearer for the Los Angeles Clippers and one
just one time, if the NBA gots could just one time,
thill the Clippers have bone for crying out loud. I
want to start out with the Paul George situation. You
hear lots of reports and I feel like this book's
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missing a chapter. Could the Clippers really have kept Paul
George if they didn't wanted them bad enough? Or did
he just want out? What happened? And I'll tell you
why I'm asking him a minute. What really happened there?
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Well, it stings like the bumper music you brought me
into here to start this segment off. But this is
a situation where the Clippers were not willing to go
and pay him more than what Kawhi Leonard got. When
Kawhi Leonard got paid the one to fifty over three years,
a three year extension in January, that was basically setting
the market for the Clippers roster. They were saying, anybody
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else James Harden being an unrestricted free agent, Paul George
now being an unrestricted free agent, was going to take
than Kawhi Leonard. So I think that was a clear signal,
we're not paying you more than the best player on
this team. And eventually that MAX contract was waiting for
Paul George via the Philadelphia seventy Sixers. I think he
and his agent knew the entire time that that MAX
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was going to be there, because look, the Sixers at
the trade deadline, they didn't use any of their cap rooms.
They made sure they had it available for this cover.
They were sending all the signals from their GM. I
do think that does a good job. But Daryl Moore
and the Philadelphia seventy Sixers were dead set on getting
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Paul George. So unless the Clippers were going to match
or come close to it, I just think it was
an untenable situation. I'm not sure anyone lost in this negotiation.
I just think it was you know, sometimes things run
their course, and the Clippers were only going to pay
so much for Paul George.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Well said, I agree with everything and the way you
laid that out, and I'm not a Paul George guy.
You can have him, Okay. We went through this with
three summers ago with OKC, and then the Clippers now
they're gonna win a damn thing in Philadelphia. It just
he had so many word sounds going out the doors.
What do you believe. What don't you believe? Secondly, I
was shocked at Kawhi Leonard found his way onto the
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Olympic team. As of Tuesday, they were talking about unrestricted
minutes and right on schedule. The next day there's an
injury and he's out. How do the Clippers feel about
the way Kawhi end of the season completely unavailable and
then he shows up with bells on for the Olympics
and now this, what are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Well, look, nobody is more frustrated I know this than
Kawhi Leonard, who puts in a tremendous amount of work
to get his body physically able to play. He played
almost seventy games this season, and then that right knee
that's gone through an ACL injury, that's gone through a
meniscus injury, started to swell up. It happened about three
weeks before the playoffs. A lot of people at the
time were suspicious that, oh, they're just trying to save
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him for that first row. I pushed back upon that
because they had a huge game against the Denver Nuggets
with seating implications, and when he didn't play that night,
I knew something was off with Kawhi Leonard, so the
injury is legit. He tried to give it a go
against the Dallas Mavericks thirty at one point in Game
three where he looked like a shell of himself. He
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was hanging from the rim, afraid to drop to the
floor because the impact on his right knee. So the
guy has pushed through some stuff. Now, my knowledge was
he had gone through a little bit of training. He
had gone through some workouts. They were watching him closely
and monitoring him before the Olympics, and he looked good
or good enough to give it a go. Lawrence Frank
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was there, Steve Kerr was there, Coach lou was there.
They were all monitoring the situation. It was a collective effort.
So I wasn't shocked that he tried to give it
a go. I know this was a bucket listing for
Kawhi Leonard to try to get a gold medal. But
I also wasn't shocked that he wasn't able to complete
the here and look, I'm sure the Clippers and Clipper Nation,
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you know a lot of people in Clipper Nation were
saying they just didn't want to see him play because
he hadn't finished the last four seasons because of injuries,
and they want to more wear and tear on his body.
My real concern at this point with Kawhi is, you
know how long has that need been swollen? Now? What's
going on with that right needs to me that's a
little bit more alarming than anything, because there's one or
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two options. He either left the Olympics because he looked
pretty good but they just want to save him for
game one of the regular season, or he just didn't
look that great out there and they want to make
sure they've saved him from himself. He doesn't exacerbate the
injury at all. And look, I understand the criticism of
him playing in the Olympics when he couldn't finish the season,
but I thought of it like this, if we're going
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to find out about his knee and what's going on
with it, I'd rather find out now during the summer,
the game one of the regular season. So I was
for him giving it a.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Shot, all right, fair enough, And just to set the
record straight at him, I've been a Kawhi guy since
his days at San Diego State. I love the guy
and I agree with everything you just said. What threw
me and perhaps I didn't articulate my question clearly enough,
was what happened at the end of the season when
they really needed him, and then subsequently shows up for
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the Olympics. It's like the guy who calls in sick
for work, can't make it to work, but then shows
up that night at the bar at the company party,
lighting the place up. It just didn't sit right with me.
What are we doing here? I mean, the Clippers are
moving into the new Arena next year. I was stupid
enough to buy into the Paul George thing two summers ago.
I really believe and I feel like Steve Balmer is
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a good guy. The basketball guys need to throw him
a bone. So now you're heading into the new Arena
with no Paul George and Kawhi To your point, whose knee?
There still seems to be question marks. What's the outlook
for the Clippers as you head into your new building
this year?
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Well, I understand the optics of it. He couldn't finish
the season, but he tries to play in the Olympics.
But my thinking is, if he's healthy, he should play.
He wasn't healthy in the playoffs. He was he thought
he was healthy enough to play in the Olympics. He
can't pick and choose when he's feeling good, when he
feels right, And he did try to play against Dallas,
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and like I said, it was almost scary. After that
first stint in Game three, I thought they should pull
him because it looked like he lost all his basketball powers.
But moving forward this season without Paul George and by
the way, Bernie, I do have to say a lot
of what's gone wrong with this Clippers team has been
outside of their control. It's been everything they couldn't control
with all these injuries. Kawhi Leonard has missed one hundred
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and seventy eight games as a Clipper. Paul George missed
a hundred and thirty three. There were some injury concerns
when they brought him in twenty nineteen. Nobody could have
foreseen anything like this playing out, and now Paul George
is gone. What I've noticed right away was they brought
in Derek Jones Junior on that Sunday when free agent
when free agency opened, Dance who he locked up in
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that first round. Paul George, he was playing for Dallas
when they made that runs to the finals and held
PG thirteen to nineteen points per game in that first
round series and look like an all world defender. I
think the Clippers are trying to lead in his defense. Now,
they're trying to have more of a defensive identity. There's
rumors of Chris Dunn coming now, Nicholas Batum is back
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with them. So if you have a healthy Kawhi, if
it's a big one, I understand that. But if you
have him with James Harden, you still have enough firepower
on offense. What can you do defensively? Because they were
not good on the defensive end at all this past season.
The last seventy games they were twenty first in defense,
believe it or not, even though they were still the
four seed in the Western Conference, because their offense was
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unbelievable when they were clicking on all cylinders. So going
into the new building, I really think it's about that
defensive DNA and that identity they're trying to build just
with what they have left with superstar power with Kawhi
and James Harden, surround them and insulate them with great defenders,
and maybe if you bring in more wings like this,
Kawhi doesn't have to do as much on the defensive end.
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Therefore you saved some of that wear and tear on
his right knee.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
And by the way, one last thing about Kawhi not
to belabor it, which is exactly what I'm doing. I
was told from a source I trust, when he walked
into camp, the Olympic camp, he had a leg sleeve
on and win a slight limp. Is that the best
thing for him to do to go on that international
grind if he's walking with a slight limp and in
a lake sleeve.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Well, I saw the video of him in the sleeve
and then he ended up. It looked like he had
on his right leg when he was walking in, but
then he had sleeves on both legs. Look, I'm not
a doctor. I know he has his own medical team.
They have the Clippers training staff. He did go through
some workouts before being there. Again, I'd rather find out
now if something else is going on, if that dwelling's
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not going down, then waiting till game one of the
regular season. Because Kawhi didn't play five on five during
the offseason, a lot of the AAU guys were brought
up that way. They don't go five on five until
it's on in the regular season, so he's just not
gonna know how taxing it is and how his knee
recovers from strenuous workouts until you get in a setting
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like that. And he was playing some five on five
obviously with Team USA. So I don't think it was
the worst thing in the world to give it a
test run there to figure out what's going on.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Okay, fair enough, you're closer to the situation. I take
you at your word, and I hope the Clippers sell
out their building. I'm going to get to a game
there this year, and I hope it's not half empty.
Just got about a minute. I'd like you to weigh
in on Bronnie. I'm not going to bash Bronnie here.
I'm maintaining my objectivity. I've said all along, if you've
got leverage in life, use it. But here's the reality, Adam.
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If I get you a job as a lifeguard, because
I have connections and you look the part, and I'm
told you can act the part, one of these days,
someone's gonna be flailing in the pool and you're gonna
jump in and we're all gonna find out if you
can swim. I don't think it's a fluke. He's zero
for twelve from behind the arc. We are told he
can have but it's all theoreticals because we've never seen
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it behind closed doors. You saw the meme. I'm sure
you saw the meme. Adam of Rob Polinka kind of smirking.
And now you know, everybody from Gilbert Arenas to you know,
mother Teresa's taking shots at BROWNI now, behind the scenes,
what's the narrative. We got to be patient or all
we might have some buyers remorse.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
I mean, obviously, if you're a Lakers fan and you're
hoping for the best that he can turn things around,
because he's six for twenty six and as you mentioned,
twelve from three so far in the summer league, you
just want to see some signs, some positive signs in
the summer league. That's it. You can't put a lot
into it, but you want to see maybe a little
bit of progress, and he could pretty much only go
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up from here. It's been that bad so far. I'll
give him this. Defensively, he's been decent, he's been okay.
I just think he's behind the eight ball in so
many different ways here, Bernie. I don't blame Lebron wanting
to play with his son. I don't blame the Lakers
wanting to bring him in. This for everybody upset about
nepotism like he isn't rampant and throughout the NBA and
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throughout sports already, Jannis's brother, Jalen Brunton's dad being an
assistant coach Dwayne Wade getting his son drafted by a
team he's a part owner of with the Utah Jazz.
This stuff happens. I mean, Jim Buss was vice president
of basketball operations with the Los Angeles Lakers. What experience
did Jim Buss have. Oh, he's part Owner's.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
In the right stomach at the right time. His dad
was Jared. We get all that. I mean, I'm not
debating any of that. And with all the respect, and
we're gonna have you on. I'm gonna I want you
to be a regular on my show. Look, you saw
Reed Shepherd ride Browning like a stick horse. I'm not
saying that Bronni's not given an effort. And he's pretty
strong and he's tough, he's trying. He's just not an
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NBA player, not today. But you got the last word.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
He's six ' one unless he's Tony Allen with the
level of defense that he used to play for the
Memphis Grizzlies at that size in today's NBA, if you
don't have a handle like CP three and you're that short,
if you can't shoot from the IQ, you better be
an elite defender. And so far he hasn't shown enough
on that end.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Thousand percent. You basically took the took the words out
of my mouth. I mean, he clearly you know he's
not and they don't see him as a facilitator. He
doesn't he doesn't bring the ball off the floor. He
doesn't shoot well enough to be a number two. And
I'm okay with the Tony Allen references. The problem is
Tony Allen was a stud at Oklahoma State. He had
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a body at worked before he got to the NBA.
I have seen it. I haven't seen it. Hey, thanks
so much, my man. What do you got like flannel Pajamason?
You know, finished the thought for us. What kind of
pajamas do you have?
Speaker 4 (13:43):
I'm in my damn boxers here in the taktop. I
look like a c slater or something like that from
baseide and saved by the bell.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
You're probably are you allowed to say wife Peter anymore?
Am I going to be in trouble if I say that?
You said it?
Speaker 5 (13:58):
Not me?
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Bernie?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
All right, Joey your reading? Thanks for coming on, Bud,
all right.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Thanks.
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They used to call it the Midsummer Classic. I don't
know what they call it now, but boy, how things
have changed. Tuesday night is the Major League Baseball All
Star Game, and to say I think the bloom was
off the rows and some of the luster has been
lost would be an understatement. This was at one time
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an incredibly glorious event and it has frankly, a very rich,
interesting history with a very I think a curious origin story.
The first official Major League baseball game was played way
back in nineteen thirty three July six. It was held
at Comiskey Park in Chicago, and the only reason they
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did it was because a writer for the Chicago Tribune
by the name of arch Ward came up with this idea.
He was a sports editor of the Chicago Tribune, and
the World's Fair was coming to Chicago that year, and
arch Ward thought it would be a great idea if
you could create this one time only exhibition game between
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the American League Stars and the National League Stars. And
the game was also intended to be an opportunity to
try to boost morale. We were in the midst of
the Great Depression in nineteen thirty three, and the fans
selected the players and the manager selected the some of
the backups, and it was called the Game of the Century,
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and there were fifty five media credentials from across the country,
and there were fifty thousand people there, and they had
gate receiats, and of course, right on schedule. Babe Ruth
of the Yankees highlights the game by hitting the first
ever home run in All Star Game history, and the
rest is history. That's the department, every dunacy department. Fast
forward to twenty twenty four, and I'm curious as to
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anybody if anybody gives a flying horses petuit about the
Major League Baseball All Star Game. I think all Star
games in general, maybe you have jumped the sharp. You
saw what has happened to the Pro Bowl. That's just
become a complete abortion. Now it's a flag football game,
and before that it was a flag football game in pads.
And now they have kind of a skills petition that
they've cobbled this thing together. The NBA All Star Games
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a joke. They don't play any defense, and the NHL
All Same is fine, but the game ends up being
seventeen to fifteen, right, So there's no for checking, there's
no backchecking, there's no fight. It's it's hockey, and it's graceful,
skillful hockey, but it's not real hockey, if you get
my drift. At least in the Major League Baseball All
Star Game. There's defense, and you might very well see
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a defensive highlight on Tuesday, a great catcher. You're not
gonna see Pete Rose running into Ray Fossey. No, and
you're no longer the game is no longer deciding who
will have the home field advantage in the World Series
or yeah, the playoffs. Excuse me, but what you also
might have with some history being made because Paul Skeens
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was announced he will be the starting pitcher for the
National League, and I'm guessing he's gonna face probably Aaron Judge,
Juan Soto and Gunner Henderson, and tell me you're not
gonna watch that first half numbers. He's only the fifth
rookie to start the game in history. The last one
to do it Hedeo Nomo in nineteen ninety five had
quite a line by the way he had Mark Fitterch
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in nineteen seventy six. Do you remember the bird for
anan of Ali z Wheala in eighty one? Skiing's first
half numbers after his seven inning no hit gym that
he got yanked from Thursday when he struck out eleven,
He's pitched sixty six innings. He struck out eighty nine
guys only given up forty eight hits. His average fastball
he's ninety nine miles an hour, his area is one
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point nine, and opponents you're hitting two to two. This
might be a little bit of a must watch because
of Paul Skeens. But here's the thing. Something about this
game has lost fluster because if a local NBC affiliate
in Dallas published fifty fun facts about the All Star
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Game in history, I'm gonna share some of these with
you and tell me if you see a pattern. Okay,
Hank Aaron, Willie Mays, and stand usual. They've all played
in the most All Star Games at twenty four. Willie
Mays has the most hits in All Star Game history
with twenty three. Charlie Garrenger, a guy who played for
the freaking Tigers back in the thirties, He has the
most played appearances twenty nine. Lefty Gomez leads all All
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Star pitchers and wins with three. Okay, maybe a little
more recent Roger Clements had pitched in the most All
Star Games ten appearances. Where am I going with that?
Every single one of those notable achievements happened before electricity
nothing new, so there has been luster and then to
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make it worse. And this makes my teeth ititch. Have
you seen the picture of this year's Major League Baseball
All Star jerseys? Are you kidding me? They don't look
like Major League Baseball All Star jerseys. They look like
bowling shirts. They look like Beer League Softball bowling shirt
jerseys that you'd find on a Tuesday night, Beard League
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Softball League. And oh, by the way, if you want
to buy one, a cool one hundred and ninety four
dollars and there's nothing distinctive. I used to think it
was the coolest thing. Look what the Allen said it best.
Nostalgia is a trap, all right. People are nostalgic about baseball.
It is, in fact America's pastime. True, it's handed down
from fathers and sons. You learn there's a Walter Mitty
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aspect of baseball. Most people played it, at least in
the little league. And when they announced the starting lineups,
and they announced their rosters and they line up on
their respective first and third base base lines, I always
thought it was the most novel thing that they were
in their regular home uniforms, or that the home team
would be in the visiting team would be in their
visiting uniforms. But when it comes to twenty twenty four,
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this is a year to forget. When it comes to
uniforms in Major League Baseball, you saw what happen in
spring training. This does not look like to me a
very well google it. You can see it for yourself.
Now it's I can't come up with a clever adjective
to accurately describe how disappointing these look when you're talking
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about what you would hope the results would be. And
I'm not batching on Nike. Nike, Nike, you know designed
these things and someone signed off on it. But the
market will always decide. And I still think you just
you should bring back the regular team jerseys for the
All Star Game. Right, Maybe these jerseys would be fine
for when the fans show up these are during batting
practice of workouts, or maybe when they take batting practice
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open to the public on Monday, or maybe for the
homown derby, but not for the game, all right. Twitter
wasted no time in reacting. One Twitter guy showed an
old picture of or one tweet would showed an older
picture of a past All Star game with the old
Chicago White Sox, Royals, Angels, Twins, Yankees. Kind of cool.
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And it said the captions that we used to be
a civilized society, all right. Another guy puts a hate
being to get off my long guy, But Major League
Baseball is not helping here. These are pitiful, not exactly
ringing endorsements. I understand it's all about money and selling
merch following what the other leagues do, but man, please
just have them wear their respective teams uniforms out there.
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Always thought it was cool seeing the different looks on
the field together. This was a unique thing major League
Baseball had going Somebody named Brian Simmon. That's a good,
thoughtful tweet, happy quote. Major League Baseball drop yet another
jersey that the entirety of the internet is going to
hate to those who celebrate people don't like them. Another tweeter,
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how about just going back to the respective team uniforms.
People will often react or some of the name alex Is.
People will often overreact when talking about how terrible jerseys are.
But these are legitimately the worst I've ever seen. Absolutely
nothing about them is unique or even creative. It's kind
of impressive how how bad they are starting to buy
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into the idea that Rob Manfred and Nike are in
cahoots to destroy Major league perception. What are we doing? Man?
Ninety percent of the City connects are embarrassing. All star
uniforms are egregious. Every year these are terrible. Please bring
back teams where in the usual uniforms you get the
picture you eat detective pattern here.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
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Speaker 3 (23:18):
Jogibera once said, you can observe a lot by watching,
and that's exactly what we do. And around this great
country of ours, and frankly, around the globe the planet,
people do things. They engage in behaviors, and these behaviors
catch your attention. And sometimes these behaviors are just kind
of silly and innocuous and not that big a deal,
although times they're more mischievous, and many times they're serious.
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They're criminal. They can even land you in jail. But
any way you slice it, any way you describe it,
any way you characterize it, these behaviors they always leave
us scratching our heads and asking ourselves, what kind of
brand new fool are you?
Speaker 2 (24:02):
So what kind of brand new fool are you?
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Well, this one, I know I say this sometimes, but
this one I really think is the weirdest one I've
ever done. First of all, I don't think we've ever
taken it to Taiwan. And I will tell you that
insurance scams are as old as man, but this one
really takes the cake. We get together a couple of friends,
a couple of Taiwanese gentlemen named Zang and Low, and
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they decide they're going to defraud an insurance company out
a one million dollars because well, they need the money.
They are a couple of college students and by the way,
they apparently maybe have some bills to pay and they
need the money, and so they're gonna break the law
and they're gonna scam some insurance company. But how they
did it is where they really become even bigger brand
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new fools. Well, turns out that their grand plan was
to contract frostbite on their leg eggs and thus have
their legs partially amputated, file the insurance claim, collect the money,
and everybody goes home happy. Well, they showed up, had
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a hospital, sure enough, they had frostbite, sure enough, they
had to have their legs amputated below their knees. But
for something was very very wrong here, and the hospital
wasn't buying it, and the hospital contacted what was known
as the Taiwanese Criminal Investigation Bureau.
Speaker 7 (25:33):
S it.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
It's not that they didn't have frostbite, but you are
in a situation in that part of the world where
you've got a subtropical climate and you don't get frostbite
in Taiwan. They got frostbite all right, because they had
had their legs in a box full of dry ice
in a plastic bucket, which brought the whole thing down right. Well,
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an investigation was underway. They somehow managed to collect a
seventy two hundred dollars insurance payout, but they were denied
additional claims because the timing was so soon after the
policies went into effect. That raised the insurance company's suspicions.
And oh, by the way, again, you don't get frostbite
in Taiwan. What happened next, well, they were criminally charged,
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facing criminal fraud charges because again Taiwan is a subtropical region.
In cases a severe frostbite requiring amputation due to any
kind of climate factor there is completely unheard of. And
by the way, these guys didn't take one insurance policy out.
It took eight insurance policies out. These were just days
before they submersed their legs in buckets of dry ice
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for ten hours each. Now they're facing jail time. They
got no insurance payout, and they both had their legs
amputated below the knees, which leads you to ask yourself, Zen, Allow,
what kind of brand do fool are you?
Speaker 2 (27:00):
You?
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Mark? I guess you could say when they went to
court they didn't have a leg to stand on. Oh,
it said, who writes this stuff? All right? That allows
us to segue into our second favorite bit that we
lovingly referred to as what my name? And we got
a crack crew to bring it. Here we go, all right.
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In my seventeen year Major League baseball career, I was
actually an MVP and a World Series MVP, but I
never played in a single All Star Game? Adie Garcia,
What my name?
Speaker 7 (27:39):
Oh boy? Do we have any kind of a time frame?
This is just baseball history.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
He made his debut in the major leagues in eighty one.
Speaker 7 (27:50):
Hold on, Mark, hold on, go ahead, Bernie.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
He made his debut in eighty one and played seventeen
years for multiple teams.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
Hey, that narrows it down.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
His most notable time was with the Dodgers. Well, actually
the Dodgers and on the Tigers.
Speaker 7 (28:08):
Oh uh, Dodgers and Tigers. Well to see, the first
name that pops in my mind is Kirk Gibson.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
You got it, Kirk Gibson. Of course, Kirk hit two
of the four famous Sobrons.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
Why don't you just ask for his initials to Eddie.
Speaker 7 (28:23):
Don't be jealous.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Think about it, though, guys, because Kirk was the MVP
of the nineteen eighty eight World Series. Even with one
at bat. He was seventeen years not a single All
Star Game. He had some good you know, good good
years with the Tigers too. All right, moving along, since
we are kind of in this all Star game theme.
In my baseball career, I struck out seventeen times in
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the All Star Game, an all time Major League record. Coop,
what my name? I'll give you a clue, Coop. He
was a New York Yankee. Derek Jeter, not Derek Jeter.
In my career, I struck out seventeen times accumulatively in
Major League Baseball All Star Games, which is a Major
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League Baseball record. Mark Ramsey, what my name?
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Willie Randolph?
Speaker 3 (29:17):
I love the name, Not Willie Randolph. Seventeen strikeouts in
the All Star Game, the all time record, Eddie Arcia.
What my name?
Speaker 7 (29:25):
Reggie Jackson?
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Well, that's a good one. Not Reggie Jackson. It's actually
Mickey Mannle. Mickey Mannle. Reggie has the distinction of striking
out two thousand, five hundred and sixty eight times in
his career, the most of any player. That's twice as
many as Babe Ruth. All right, Moving along the All
Star Game theme, I'm the only Major League Baseball player
in history to win an All Star Game MVP and
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a World Series MVP in the same season. Mark Ramsey,
what my name?
Speaker 7 (29:57):
Rusty Stob I love it.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Lagron Darnce love Rusty stop got rest his soul. I'm
the only Major League Baseball player in history to win
an All Star Game MVP and a World Series MVP
in the same season. H Coop, What my name? Hmm?
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Madison Bumgarter. Madison Bumgarn. That's actually not a bad guess,
because he had three all right Giants ten, twelve and fourteen,
only Major League Baseball player in history to win the
All Star Game MVP in the World Series MVP in
the same season.
Speaker 7 (30:44):
Eddie Garcia, what my name, I'll go Derek Jeter.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
It is Derek Jeter did it back in two thousand.
All right, nicely done. We're gonna flip the football. I'm
a former Dallas Cowboy head coach, but I flew thirty
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combat missions during World War Two. Mark Ramsey, what my name?
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Tom Landry?
Speaker 3 (31:16):
It is, in fact Tom Landry, the Great Tom Landry. Now,
I'm a former Dallas Cowboy quarterback, and I also was
in the military. In fact, I fought in Vietnam. Coop,
what my name.
Speaker 7 (31:33):
In Vietnam?
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Fought in Vietnam?
Speaker 5 (31:39):
I was gonna say Roger Stabach.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
But well it is Roger Stobach. Good thing he said that. Wow,
you guys are just showing off now, so let's switch
to the w NBA. Angel Reese just broke my record
of twelve consecutive double doubles. Eddie Garcia, what my.
Speaker 7 (31:59):
Name, Let's go with Lisa Leslie.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
What's the next one? Guess is not Lisa Leslie? Inje
Reese just broke my record of twelve consecutive double doubles.
Mark Ramsey, What my name, Caitlin Clark, No, she actually
had five. I think at Steve Street got broken tonight
or Saturday night. Angel Reese just broke my record in
the WNBA of twelve consecutive double doubles. Ah Coop, What
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my name.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
Candace Parker?
Speaker 3 (32:33):
It is Kandace Parker. Nice? He done? All right, let's
go back to the national pastime. In my baseball career,
I have twenty six leadoff home runs, the most of
any active Major League Baseball player. Eddie Garcia. What my name,
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Kyle Schwarber, Kyle Schwarber, is it actually done? Hit that?
Think it was? What went there Thursday night? Hit that
opposite field dinner in the first pitch of the game.
That was his twenty sixth. All right, sticky with baseball. Well,
the Phillies are striving to win a World Series this year. Well,
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the last time the Phillies won the World Series, I
was their manager, Mark Ramsey. What my name?
Speaker 7 (33:26):
I'm sure it wasn't Bob Lemon.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Not Bob Lemon, one of the greats. Oh I love
Bob Lemon. He once he took over for Billy Martin,
A couple times, and one said the most important things
in life are close friends in a good bullpen. That
was Bob Lemon. All right. The last time the Phillies
won the World Series, I was the manager, Coop. What
my name.
Speaker 7 (33:48):
Charlie Manuel?
Speaker 3 (33:49):
It is Charlie Manuel. Nicely done two thousand and eight.
You guys are killing it tonight, all right, Ed, He's
gonna get this one. This is right up his Alli.
We just recently finished the Stanley Cup finals. The Canadians
once again shut out the last time a Canadian based
NHL team won the Stanley Cup, I was the head coach,
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Eddie Garcia. What my name eow?
Speaker 7 (34:15):
That would be Jack de Mares.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
I knew you'd get it. I know it's against your Kings, Eddie.
I will never forget true story. I was in a
hotel room in Detroit when Martin McSorley scored the goal.
I said, God darn it, they're gonna win the Stanley Cup.
And then Jack Demrez had the curve stick the goal
was disallowed. The Canadians, Remember the Kings opened up on
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the road. They won Game one. They were about to
beat Montreal twice in Montreal. Go home with the two
Elite and they did crazy, crazy crazy. All right, we
are all sick of hearing the term dream Team, but
we're sending a team to Paris to win the gold medal,
which I believe they will. They've been favorably compared to
the Dream Team. I'm not so sure. The Dream Team
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had twelve Hall of Famers in nineteen cumulative championships, and
they had a real pan about them. In fact, I
was the leading scorer on the nineteen ninety two Basketball
Dream Team. Mark Ramsey, what my name?
Speaker 4 (35:18):
I need to disqualify myself because I know the answer.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
All right, let's move along it.
Speaker 7 (35:24):
Why do you need to disqualify with yourself?
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Well, I can't lie. I used this recently on my
show Eddie Oh, and I wanted I wanted to. I
wanted to include the theme because we're in the Olympics.
So Mark probably knows. Mark's probably heard me give the answer.
Speaker 7 (35:38):
What an honest man?
Speaker 3 (35:39):
An honest man? Yes he is. I was a leading
scorer in the nineteen ninety two Basketball Dream Team. Coop,
what my name?
Speaker 5 (35:48):
I feel like this is a like a trap question.
It is a little bit so I'm gonna say, Charles Barkley,
it is.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Charles Park that's outstanding. People think you know what he's enjoyed.
Was it Bird? Was it was Charles Barkley? All right,
this is random, but it's real. You know, it's not
uncommon that a Major League Baseball player will hit two
home runs in the same game as a switch hitter,
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one on each side of the plate. Well, I'm the
most recent Major leaguer to homer from each side of
the plate in the same game. Eddie Garcia what my name?
Speaker 7 (36:26):
Well, I did this in my updates, so I'll actually
know it.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
It's Cal rawle of nicely done, Eddie, nicely done. He
just did it the other day. If I'm not mistaken,
I'll stand it.
Speaker 7 (36:37):
All right.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
We talked about Paul Skins starting the Major League Baseball
All Star Game as a rookie, only the fifth one
to do it. I'm the last rookie to start be
the starting pitcher in the Major League Baseball All Star Game.
Mark Ramsey, what my name?
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Satchel Page.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
But I didn't mention this guy earlier in the show,
so I guess you got I believe you guys are
gonna get it. I'm the last rookie pitcher to start
in the Major League Baseball All Star Game. It's part
of Paul Skeans, of course, Coop, what my name?
Speaker 7 (37:08):
Nolan Ryan, Not Nolan Ryan.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Not Nolan Ryan. I am the last rookie to be
the starting pitcher in the Major League Baseball All Star Game.
Of course, again prior to Paul Skeans, Eddie Garcia. What
my name?
Speaker 7 (37:23):
I don't remember you mentioned him earlier in the show,
so maybe I missed if. I'm gonna go with Dwight Gooden.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Not Dwight Gooden. He's actually his Dalen Nomo back in
nineteen ninety five, and he had quite the stat line.
Two innings, pitch, one hit, struck out, three, did not
give up a run. Quite the stat line. All right,
we stick with baseball. I'm the first shortstop in Major
League Baseball history to be a member of the thirty
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thirty club. Mark Ramsey, what my name?
Speaker 1 (37:55):
I'm gonna stick with my last answer, Don Kessinger.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
I love it. It is not bomb Don cass As,
your former Chicago Cub shortstop not necessarily known for his
hitting prowess. All right, I'm the first shortstop in Major
League Baseball history to join the thirty thirty club. Coop.
What my name?
Speaker 5 (38:20):
I feel like I would get this if I had
more time, but since I don't, I'm just gonna throw
a good name out there.
Speaker 7 (38:27):
Raphael for Call.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Oh, that's a good name. It's not Raephael for Call, though.
I'm the first shortstop in Major League Baseball history to
join the thirty thirty Club. Eddie Garcia, What my.
Speaker 7 (38:36):
Name is it? Alex Rodriguez, Not Alex Rodriguez.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
He played before Rodriguez. I'll give you guys a couple
of clues. Played his college basketball back, try that again
in English. Played his college baseball at the University of Michigan.
Then his third basement at University of Michigan was Chris Sabo,
who was also his third baseman. Oh, I know it
is now, go ahead, Eddie.
Speaker 7 (39:00):
Barry Larkin.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Barry Larkin, well done, Well done. Also, by the way,
also a high school All American player at more Or
High School in Cincinnati. Okay, let's do one more for posterity.
In the history of the National Basketball Association. I have
had more turnovers than anybody. Mark Ramsey, what my name?
Speaker 7 (39:26):
Darryl Dawkins.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
From the planet Lovetron, Not Darryl Dawkins. Chocolate Thunder. One
of the funniest human beings going in the history of
the National Basketball Association. I've had more turnovers than anybody.
Coop with my name.
Speaker 5 (39:41):
Well, we did this one on Friday, So I'm gonna say,
Lebron James.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
Very good. I want to see if you guys could
get that. All right? We can't end on that one.
And we can't end on that one? Or can't or
should we? I don't know, should we or not?
Speaker 7 (39:56):
No?
Speaker 3 (39:57):
Okay, good, let's do let's do one more. Okay, you
guys get this one. It's big time, but I think
you're gonna get it. Okay. Back in the two thousand
and three NBA draft, Lebron James was the number one pick.
Everybody knows that he was the number one pick in
the two thousand and three NBA draft, but I was
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the number two pick. Eddie Garcia, what my name?
Speaker 7 (40:23):
Darko?
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Oh nicely done, Eddie. That is big time, Darko militic.
There's a whole backstory there, which I actually have time
to tell, but I'm not gonna tell that. I know
Joe Dumars took a lot of heat. You could have
seen Darko workout at seventeen and so he was Victor
Wmbyama maybe better. But he went to work for Larry Brown.
They didn't get along. Darko was underage, drinking in the bars.
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He was a lousy practice player. He fell into disfavor,
ended up spending eleven twelve years in the league Human
victory Cigar and people say, well, why didn't you draft
d Wade. Well, they didn't need d Way. They had
a backcourt there. They just they had just been in
the finals the year before. Anyway, long story, Dharko will
go down and infamy as one of those guys
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