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Well you heard the man. Greetings and salutations and oh yeah,
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Speaker 4 (01:01):
Well, if you're.
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Scoring at home, I hope you are. This is my
twenty second Ben Mallard Show. You know I have mad
respect for the mal of Malsha tonight we'll bring in
the new year together and we will be taking your
calls as well.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Eight seven, seven, nine to nine on Fox.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
We honor the Mallard tradition where callers are a priority.
A lot of great callers on Sunday night, a lot
of great callers last Thursday night.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
There's a lot to talk about.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
And as you probably already know, there are three types
of people in the world, those who make things happen,
those who watch things happen, and those who wonder what happened,
especially when it comes to New Year's celebrations, and it
turns out, well, everybody celebrates New Year's in some form
or fashion. Big parties on the strip here in Las
(01:46):
Vegas going on right now. We're fifty eight minutes away
from the New Year here in Las Vegas, having even
had a Rob Gronkowski setting, A million people observe the
ball drop in Times Square. You get the picture. And
yet we've also come to learn that many countries around
the world celebrate New Year's and well some very unique ways.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
You know, in.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Spain at midnight they eat twelve grapes so for that.
In Colombia they carry around empty suitcases.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Who thinks this stuff up.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
In Denmark they smash plates and they jump off chairs.
I don't know when whatever they do that sounds like
a real hoot. In Panama, oh boy, they know how
to party. They burn effigies. How about Greece they hang
onions from the ceiling. I wonder how they do that.
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In France they have a little nash what they do.
They'd a stack of pancakes at midnight? Pancakes? Why not grapes?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
I'm not that smart. I'm no high school dropout. I
went the full six years, But how would I know
why they eat pan cakes instead of crapes? And oh yeah,
and the Netherlands at midnight people eat donuts. And in
the Philippines they wear shirts with polka dots.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Yeah I could.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
I could go on for a while with this Michig
guys here, but uh. It turns out that in Penn
State they win quarterfinal football games, and I know they
they won by seventeen points, and that's going to of
course bring the group think echo chamber out of the
woodwork again saying, oh, how can we have this? And
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they shouldn't have been in the playoff, YadA YadA ya Okay, saved.
Will you you know you want the complaint department. Uh, yeah,
that's that's what you do.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
You want the complete department, call it. But I will
say this.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
If you want some perspective on how these playoff semi
final games have gone to the pass, because in the
past several New years, we've had actually semi final playoff
games during the old you know TV made for TV
Invitational four team Goofball tournament, the last twenty semi final
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games the winning margin was fourteen points or more the
last out of the last twenties. Let me let me
try that again in English, in the last twenty semi
final games. Fourteen of those games and it was a
victory margin of fourteen points or more. Eight of those
games ended with a margin of twenty points more. Let's
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not act like this is some new phenomenon. We get
blowouts in the NBA finals. We certainly get blowouts in
Super Bowls. This wasn't wasn't really a blow As a
matter of fact, I'm a little underwhelmed by by Penn State.
Boise State had you know, they left a lot of
opportunities on the field, But at the end of the day,
Penn State scored more points, they won, drew out of
through three touchdown passes, and Penn State and their current
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number five ranking prevails. And one of the things they
did do is they certainly bottled up the Heisman Trophy
winner Ashton genty and that gets them a spot and
the semi finals coming up to play a winner of
Georgia Notre Dame. And so now they opened their first
playoff berth with a blowout, went over SMU and then
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it appeared they were going to blow out Poison State.
They jumped out fourteen nothing. But you know, the Broncos
is sort of if you understand their history, and it's
a good one. They've actually really relished the role of underdog,
going back to when their brand went national in the
two thousand and seven Fiesta Bowl, when they ran that
great hook and ladder play. By the way, the kid
who scored the touch that went to my high school anyway,
by a digress, give it up to the Broncos. They
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came back from that early hole. They actually got the
game to seventeen fourteen at one point on a beautiful
fifty three hour touchdown catch by Matt Laud midway through
the third quarter, and I thought we had a game.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
I did.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Then Penn State tripped up Boise State's latest comeback bid.
Because Boise State has had their share of comebacks. Tayler
threw his second town touchdown pass to John mckeward. If
you don't know John mckew, Award is young blugs. Read
a damn book. You know what a book is. It's
that thick thing with pages and you turn it. You
don't turn it down, you read it. John mckew was
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a legendary tighten for the old Baltimore Colts. Tyler Warren,
who's Penn State's best weapon, and once Penn State figured
out that nobody on Boise State could cover him, it
was pretty much good night, nurse right, Nick Siegeldon burnts
up the middle, burst it up the middle, excuse me,
fifty eight yard touchdown, round, and all of a sudden,
now it's game, set match. By the time the fourth
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quarter rolled around, Penn State was riding Boise State like
a stick horse. They did it because they controlled both
lines of scrimmage all night, and they shut down Ashton
genty and his running lanes. You may have gotten one
hundred and four yards, took him thirty carries. His longest
carry was twelve yards. Now, let's fazy he got hit
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more than a rocky ball ball. That was their name plan.
Every time Genty got near the ball, there were five
blue and white jerseys around him. Genty ends up twenty
seven yards short of Barry Sanders single season NCAA record.
He should know this because I'm a Burry guy covered
the lines for many years. Barry's a great guy. Of
those twenty six hundred and twenty eight yards he accumulated,
they didn't count the two hundred and twenty two he
got in the bowl game when Oklahoma State played I
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want to say miss I would think it was Michigan
State in.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Nineteen eighty nine.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Anyway, regardless that bowl game, Sanders got an extra two
hundred and twenty two yards that didn't count on that
record that they've been flashing around. But gent didn't make
it anyway, even though he played three more games. Okay,
that's beside the point. Basically, Boise State tried to push
back by gaining pressure on Drew Aller, and they tried
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to turn the momentum. They stripped the quarterback A couple
players after Gent he lost his third fomal the season,
he'd only got one or two coming in, and then
Boise State turned into a guy named Tyler Crowe, not
Ashton gent In the full back. He turned and twisted
and carried about three or four Nitley lions on his
back for a night yard touchdown, and it seemed to
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be within the reach. But it's just never It was
like you know when you go to a nice fine
dining restaurant and they bring out that big long tube
and would you like fresh ground pepper. Yeah, hit me
up with some of that, and they're turning it and
turning it and turning it, and you're waiting for the
pepper to come out. It comes out really slow. Wait,
wait is it coming out with I can't see it,
and wait and wait. Meanwhile, you feel kind of bad
because the guy's arms about to fall off and end
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up with Tommy John surgery. But you want the Dann pepper,
but it's taken forever, and now your salad's getting cold
and you're getting tired, and now you gotta Hey, that's
how Boise State's comeback was. It just never quite got there.
By the way, not fair to Maddox Matts. And you
may you might find this interesting. Maddox Matts and Maddox
m A. D. Dux is named after the picture Greg
Maddox Lotice. He had a lot of those side arm
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deliveries tonight. He's he's a good player. He threw three
picks tonight. Their field goal kicker missed a couple of
field goals. And you know that's just the way it is,
all right, Penn State likely the better team, but at
least we're deciding these damn things on the field much
better that it's been in the past. And one of
the reasons I like this. I know people are bitching
and morning, and we don't have the best twelve teams.
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I don't know, We're never going to decide that. It's
like arguing about your favorite noodland to play at spaghetti.
But you know what, at least they have done this year.
They've created a path, a possibility for certain teams to
make it to the Promised Land, like you have in
March Madness. At least there's that likely Boise State wasn't
going to do it. Arizona State's got their shot tomorrow.
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SMU looked like a drunk crossing an icy street. But
at least their conference championship appearances in games.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Mattered, It mattered.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
We'll never know what would have happened to Florida State
last year. It probably would have lost, but it wasn't
decided on the field, so we were left to speculate. Meanwhile, Alabama, okay,
you could pour yourself a big old glasses. Shut up,
juice now after the way you performed against Michigan, who
everybody sat out. And oh, by the way, South Carolina
got punked by Illinois, So savior complaints for one eight
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hundred by all right, coming up. There's a major story
that continues and it bruised. And I covered this heavily
the other day, the old nil and transfer portal. We're
living in a world where twenty seven hundred people have
already entered the transfer port this year twenty nine and
one team Marshall couldn't play a ball game the old
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team I covered the Michigan Wolverines. It just hit a
kid from Bellville twelve million dollars to play quarterback next year.
He's never thrown a single pass. Who better to bring
them than our guy, Chris Plank, who is a staple
among the Oklahoma Sooner faithful and he's right there in
the belly of the beast. I know Crystal Pomo punches,
so I'm really curious to hear what he's got to
say about this, because this story ain't going away. Be
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sure to catch live editions of The Ben Mallor Show
weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. All right, back on
the Ben Mallor Show. Bernie Frattle is sitting for Ben
Maller Company. Line from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radiotireck
dot com studios will take after three and Pacific six
am Eastern. It's welcome and a gentleman, a fixture on
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these airways. You hear him every Sunday night the very
popular Plank and Arnie Show seven pm, eight pm Pacific,
eleven pm Eastern. Actually, I think it's probably a ten
pm Central. God's time, right. I've been wanting to have
this gentleman on for a while because he's right in
the belly of the beast. Oklahoma football, Oklahoma softball, and
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he's candid, he's honest, and he's knowledgeable. Say hello to
our good buddy, Chris playing Chris, Thanks so much for
coming on.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Man, Yeah, Bernie, Happy New Year, man.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Appreciate kicking off twenty twenty five with you, And yeah,
we got a lot glege football to get to, don't we.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
We really do, and I want to start and happy
New Year to you as well. You're already into twenty
twenty five. We don't have forty one minutes here, so
let's get to this. We have twenty seven hundred players
in the portal. Well, twenty nine from Marshall alone opted
out so they couldn't even play in their damn game.
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And were the school I covered for fourteen years just
paid twelve million to a quarterback who's never taken a snap.
Let's start with thirty thousand feet to send downward. What's
your thought on the whole nil portal situation.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
It's the ultimate ready shoot aim situation, maybe in the
history of college sports. And it's when you go back
to the start of the ability for student athletes to
profit off their name, image and likeness and make money.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Right, It's it's necessary, it's needed.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
They should be able to the problem is when the
whole the NCAA, which again isn't a brick and mortar building,
it's an entity that the member institutions put together and
they all help fund it. So it's always funny to
me whenever this arm that's supposed to be, you know,
the law and order arm, everyone's going against it. It's like, well,
this is your entity, this is what you needed and
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wanted to keep the rules. But anyway, when NIL finally
kicked off, and like late early twenty twenty, the NCAA
did the blackjack dealer thing when the shoe was done,
he kind of laid the cards out, just clapped and
walked away, And that was the NCAA like, oh, by
the way, you can entice people with NIL. There's got
to be certain timelines and yeah, go have fun with it,
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no rules whatsoever. You know, I didn't even know what
a collective was until NIL came along, and I think
everyone saw inevitably it would get to this point. The
problem is no one has tried to put any rules
or restrictions on it. And it's unlike anything in sports today,
where else where else can you go and not essentially
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have you know, a restrictive contract that you can get
up and walk away from it about any point that
you want and go, not skip a beat and play
somewhere else you know, it's just it's crazy. I went
to college and I tried to transfer one time, Bernie,
none of my credits transferred, so I stayed at the
same school. But yeah, these guys are transfer like crazy
and they're all eligible. When's the last time you heard
about a player being academically ineligible for a Bowl game?
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It doesn't exist. So yeah, short story long, the problem
with NIL was in its berth in that it was
just kind of thrown out there. It's like, oh, yeah,
go profit off your name, image, likeness, good luck. I
don't if the NCAA didn't see it becoming what it is,
where you have places like Michigan and Texas, A and
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m and Texas and going out and buying the best players,
oh miss right. If they didn't see this coming, I'm
just an utter shock that no one had the foresight
of it. And now you're trying to get the toothpaste
back in the tube and I don't know how you're
gonna do it.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Well, here's the situation. And I played college baseball and
it's not fun being poor. The bottom line is, I
don't have an issue with the players, you know, having
a vehicle for walk around money Okay, if you can
go to the local dealership, sign autographs, kiss babies, take photos.
Here's one thousand bucks, some walking around money or whatever,
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five grand. But now you're giving a kid twelve million,
life changing money. He hadn't even played a game yet.
So it's no longer name, image and likeness. It's pay
for play. I'm just waiting for the day with someone
watch into Belichick's offs and says coach, I know I
was committed, but Miami's given me a million more, so
I'm gone. So that's my flag. But let's also talk
about the portal. Right in the middle of Bulls season, Okay,
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can't they create like a free agency a.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Month to say?
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Okay, April first, April thirtieth. There you go. You've been
through spring practice. You know you are at a depth chart.
Now you do something. You got bull Purbulah, Penn State's
backup quarterback who saw action in every game this year,
left left.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
In the middle of the playoffs. You got the floor and.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Malik Murphy did it last year.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
Whenever Texas had Quinn viewers get deemed up during the season,
Texas went into the playoffs without their backup quarterback. I
know we're in a safe window and we can pretty
much say whatever we want. I think safe harbor is
the term and in all the training that I've gone through,
But it's just a it's a messed up it's a
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messed up schedule right now. And you know, most coaches
would tell you everyone has to deal with it, so
we just deal with it. But I mean, players are
having to make decisions about playing in a freaking playoff
game because they might not have a spot right anywhere else.
And just I love the ball Pribilo situation because here's
Penn State's backup quarterback who played a role on this team.
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I mean he carried the ball I want to say
five or six times the Big Ten Championship game. They
had a package for him, but he had to go
out and find a spot for him to play in
twenty twenty five. Now, the crazy thing about all this
is just looking at that situation specifically, Drew Aller said
he's coming back, but for some reason, NFL gms are
not believing him.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
It's like, I think he.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Could still turn pro. And there is no hard deadline
for a while for the teams that are in the playoffs.
I think January sixth. They had that hard deadline to
turn prokescuse me. January sixth is the initial date, but
obviously the playoffs are going to still be going on
on January sixth, and I think it's like the twenty
fourth for teams that are in the playoffs. So I mean,
Penn State could end up being the people that get
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screwed in this the most because they could be thinking
Drew Aller is back and they let Prisbulo go and
come to Pribulo go and come to find out they
need a quarterback because he had to transfer to find
another place.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
It's a mess. You got to fix the calendar.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
It's funny because they want to talk about academics in
semesters and schedules like that whenever they're not willing to
change and make it more universal.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
I think the.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
Only way to keep it where it's not make it
where it's not a distraction and not going on during
the playoffs, Bernie, is to do the actual portal window
in like the summer after the year is done. But
coaches don't want that. If spring ball is going to
stay in April and March, they want guys to be
on campus to start working in spring ball for the
upcoming season.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
It's a mess.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
No one seems to have any urgency to fix it,
which is frustrating. They seem more upset about, oh gosh,
why are these teams getting a buye in the playoff.
So I hope cooler heads will prevail and changes will
be made. But right now, the schedule, portal, the payments,
it's completely completely unregulated and it's completely a mess.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Last thing, Chris, I don't want to hold you up, buddy.
I know you're a busy, but this is gonna be
a real shift. And here's what I mean. You heard
about the situation back we four with our quarterback here
at U and ov match Luca right. Just the other day,
six Florida State basketball players sued Leonard Hamilton. I am
not taking sides on this, but I read the statement
from Florida State University regarding the legal complate and it's tepid. Yeah,
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things like we know of no you know, you know,
unfulfilled commitments, and then we support coach Hamilton's right the
defendive self. I think there's gonna be more of these,
and this is what's going to bring the house crashing down.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
You got the last word.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
Yeah, Bernie, I find it interesting that every time that
you hear a conference commissioner, I've been pretty blessed to
cover some good ones and some really bad ones. But
Greg Sank is one of the best that I've covered,
And in every conversation that he has about INIL and
what needs to be done, I find it fascinating that
he always brings up and we got to make sure
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that these agreements are being executed and these men are
being paid and women are paid like.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
They're supposed to.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
It's funny because people don't think about that until you
have a story like Seluca or the Florida State players
or listen, my alma mater, the University of Tulsa had
I think it was like six or seven players claimed
that they were promised in IOW money and they never
got it either. And then Kevin Wilson, who was the coach,
came out. I was like, we never had any INIO money.
So I think this happens more. I talked about this
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last night on the show, Bernie. I think this happens
more than we'll ever find out where guys aren't getting paid,
and I think at the last minute, you know you
have someone that steps up and makes it work. It
doesn't become a public disas disaster. The most interesting thing
to me, coaches aren't supposed to be involved in these conversations,
right Leonard Hamilton's saying, I got your two hundred and
fifty thousand, don't worry about it. Well, if we're following
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the rules, coaches aren't supposed to be involved in that.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Front right now.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
So I feel like it's going to get worse before
it gets better, and until we come up with a way,
a process, a plan, a formula that is going to
be there I use this word fair. And the revenue
sharing is going to be interesting to follow, but there's
still a lot of confusion about that, and we don't
even know if it's going to start in July, and
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obviously there's still gonna be nil on top of it.
I think there's gonna be more stories like what's coming
out of Florida State that are going to come to
the surface.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
I feel like some players are afraid to bring.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
It up because they feel like if they do on nonpayment,
they're not going to get another job or another place
to play.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
I mean, where's Luca at right now? He's still looking
for a place.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Well, he's got he's actually got some offers. He's going
to be okay, good. It speaks to a larger issue.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
But well, but here's the thing. He has offers. But
that first run of quarterbacks, the big money guys are gone,
and I think he'll win on.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
The sixth figure guy. He's not a million dollar guy.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Oh is that?
Speaker 5 (21:13):
Well yeah, yeah, well Bernie Jackson Arnold's not a seven
figure guy. But he got it from Auburn for some
unknown reason. So I hear what you're saying, But we
overspent on quarterbacks and both the gillag ranks in the NFL.
But my point is, I think you're having people that
are starting to be in bolden to speak up whenever
they have issues like this, or maybe in the past
they were kind of a little bit skittish, maybe a
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little bit concerned to do so. And maybe we'll look
back in math Seluca and be and hey, he was
the guy that kind of broke this mold where maybe
some nil deals weren't being executed and followed through like
they should be. But he showed that the guts and
the willingness to say, hey, I'm not getting paid, I
ain't playing, and that opened the door for other people
to do the same.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
You watch instead of injury lawyer law every six seconds
on TV, it's going to be Hey, we're the law
for I'm a dewey cheata and how you've been screwed?
Nnil give us a call? Look at you up top?
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Did you have an ni hel agreement that never.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Got That's that's right. Are you an option quarterback? All right,
big fella. Always a pleasure. Chris, good catching up.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Thanks so much for your time.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Yeah, anytime, Bernie, have a great show tonight.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Thanks.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
That's Chris Plank you here im you' hear him against
Sunday Night with the great Arnie Spanning here. As I said,
callers are going to be a priority. We're gonna get
to all you. Nolan ked drinking, Steve Jean, I know
Kurt from Sokali were there. So let's get the ball
roll at eight seven, seven, nine to nine on Fox
eight seven seven nine nine six six three six nine.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
You call in.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
You're getting on, just be pacing. We begin with Nolan
in Massachusetts. Welcome and Nolan, how are you hey?
Speaker 6 (22:41):
You can hear me?
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Okay, I can hear you? Okay?
Speaker 7 (22:43):
Nolan did you want me to stay on topic or
which is whatever I want?
Speaker 3 (22:46):
You know what, you can do whatever you want. It's
New Year's it's twenty twenty five. Where you're at live
how you want to live. We're just out here. I
have a little fun tonight.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
Awesome.
Speaker 7 (22:55):
So Celtics, they were entering the season, they were, you know,
considered the most dominant team in the league. Uh, they've
been missing some guys. They've been in kind of a
low lately. They had a dominant win tonight, but you know,
some some pretty bad misques the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (23:11):
I'm not like a guy who lets them off the hook.
I'm very critical of them, but I personally believe that
with all their their course playoff experience and everything, they're
kind of just waiting for the postseason. They're kind of
agree interested in the regular season.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Well, they went by fifty three I think New Year's Eve.
But my guy Mark Medina, who's our Fox Sports Radio
NBA group, we've talked about the calfs, We've talked about
sing when push comes to shove. Knowing sad, we don't
think anybody's going to beat the Celtics four times in
two weeks when April and May roll around. Absolutely all right, Nolan,
appreciate you checking in, man.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Happy New Year, good stuff. Eight seven seven nine nine
six six three six nine.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
We've got Keg drinking Steve in Kansas City.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Welcome Inn. Would you like to call me? Okay, I
can't even talk tonight.
Speaker 9 (24:00):
Ball Vernon Ernie. Happy New Year, buddy. Hopefully this will
be a great one for your Lions.
Speaker 10 (24:06):
Man.
Speaker 9 (24:06):
I can't wait to meet you in the in the
super Bowl.
Speaker 10 (24:09):
For sure.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
I'm concerned.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
I'm very concerned, very plugged in there. Still.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
I got to tell you. Should I call you Keg
or should I call you Steve or drinking Steve?
Speaker 9 (24:24):
Just call me KD KDS.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
All right, you got it.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
The bottom line is, and I later on in the
in the hour, I'm actually gonna give some very inconvenient
truths about the Detroit Lions defense issues about to get real.
It's very concerned. I'm not saying they can't get to
the super Bowl. The first thing they got to do
is beat Minnesota Sunday night, or they're going to be
the fifth seed and they're gonna have to go on
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the road, and that is not to go.
Speaker 9 (24:53):
I know, buddy, that's I've walked a mile in your
shoes with the twenty eighteen, two thousand, nineteen Chiefs when
we had to win fifty four fifty one on Monday
Night football or lose against the Rams. So this will
be a wild It'll be a wild ride. Hopefully we'll
get some fresh blood in the Super Bowl and the
NFC side. But I was kind of going to go
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wild card, and maybe we can discuss this tonight on
your show.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Go Ahead.
Speaker 9 (25:19):
We've got we've got a big problem with the Bulls.
We got when the Michigan Alabama game is better than
every single playoff bowl that has been going on so far.
We have got a big problem with these matchups in
terms of Texas being a fourteen point edge over Arizona State,
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Georgia's missing their quarterback against Notre Dame, and the only
thing that might save us as the Oregon Ohio State
Rose Bowl. I mean, this has been an absolute The
Bulls have been the rate.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Give it time.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
I don't know if you've heard my open in the
last twenty semi final games. Playoff thing a while, all right,
the margin of victory and fourteen of those games were
fourteen points or more. In any of those games, it
was twenty points or more. It's gonna settle in. What
they've done is created a path for teams wh wouldn't
have had a path to get there before. I think
you're gonna see some very competitive games from here on out.
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I think two of the three will be competitive, and
maybe all three will be competitive.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
And by the way, this Georgia quarterback.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Is a badass.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
He's a linebacker.
Speaker 9 (26:26):
Yeah, go ahead, Bert, Bernie. I love I love your
I love your optimism, I love your positivity. But the
fact is I was watching, I'm the average viewer of
the Midwest. I was watching the the Blues and the
and the Chicago Blackhawks at regular Field instead of that
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game tonight. I mean, have we have got? I mean
it's just I mean, it's just I want to see
competitive I'm gonna watch. I'm gonna sit down at four
o'clock like I had the last forty years, and I'm
going to watch that Rose Bowl versus Ohio State and
in Oregon. If it doesn't produce, I may not watch.
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I may not watch the next two games. I don't
have I don't have a lot of a lot of
expectations of great results tomorrow. But I'll tell you what,
if that Rose Bowl doesn't do do what I wanted
to do, I may check out. I mean, I'm sorry
to say it. I'd love to be I love to
I love college football, I love everything about it.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Just a big fellow, and I want to get to you.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
I appreciate you calling in, and I got to get
to these other callers a couple of years ago. You know,
in the final game, Georgia beat TCU like a million
to thirty. Okay, and Georgia will clown down Michigan wrote
them like a stickhorse few years ago. So you're not wrong.
Give it a chance. At least these things are being
decided on the field. We've gone from one BCS playoff
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game to three in the main for TV Invitational Tournament
to now eleven and for now I'm here for it. Okay.
I know it's not always going to be perfect. Gene
in Memphis is up next. Welcome into the Ben Malachield,
thanks for checking in.
Speaker 10 (28:02):
Hey, Bernie, how you doing man? Yeah?
Speaker 11 (28:06):
Uh, I totally agree to disagree. Which uh which this
assessment of a guy getting paid that kind of money?
Speaker 10 (28:18):
Uh?
Speaker 11 (28:19):
You're going to get some of these young teams, players
and golf players getting paid bukoos of money. No one
said nothing, and they're bringing those athletes and bringing them
millions of dollars.
Speaker 10 (28:29):
To the universe.
Speaker 11 (28:30):
I agree with that, and I know I mean at
the bottom line just right here.
Speaker 10 (28:35):
It's a business.
Speaker 11 (28:36):
Now, it's a major business. Been a business time, but
it's it's a business man, and uh we might even
get used to it. And I heard the other call
saying about, uh boy, you stay playing been stay you know,
got the teams getting washed up, playing teams a little
more dominant crusee. But hey, man, it's college football. You
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take the best conference talk overs in the country and.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
You win your the vision.
Speaker 11 (29:04):
You win the vision, and then.
Speaker 10 (29:05):
You go in the playoffs.
Speaker 11 (29:06):
That's where should go.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
That's exactly how I've been saying all along. Make it
championship based. Winning your conferences matter. And you know, as
far just to set the thanks for checking in, gen
happy now you appreciate you, man. I am cool with
him getting paid. There has to be some guardrails where
a guy can quit on his team and go to
the next schol because they offer him a couple bucks
more it's just a little out of control. Andre in Massachusetts,
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Welcome back. How are you, buddy, I'm.
Speaker 12 (29:33):
Good burning, happy new year, appreciate you, and I'm loving
this topic in terms of NIL listen here is my
view has the situation, it's an evolution and there's a
reformation going on. But I have an issue with all
the emphasis being on the playoffs. What the heck do
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we have USC and U c l A doing in
the Big ten?
Speaker 7 (29:56):
Ken?
Speaker 4 (29:58):
What do we have you know why that happened? Andre?
Speaker 3 (30:02):
The Big Ten is a money printing machine, and USC said,
we're in a dying conference. They want a major media
market in LA and we can go there, and all
of a sudden, our athletic coffers are going to get
sixty million before we open the doors every year thanks
to being in the Big ten exactly.
Speaker 12 (30:18):
And so that's my view with NILS. What is it
appropriate that twenty players are out and they can't play
in the game. Is that what's best for college sports?
Speaker 4 (30:27):
No?
Speaker 3 (30:27):
No it's not.
Speaker 12 (30:29):
But the emphasis to me is pretty much on the
players and not on the individuals driving the system. Who
is the college president? Let's start there in my view
before we castate all of this consternation and blame on
the players. So yeah, this is the system that the
college powers that be created. You could have gotten your
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arms around this years ago. Shout out to Ed O'Bannon
and what he was trying to do in the early nineties,
but you wanted to hold on to the fallacy of
amorate and you let the genie out of the bottle,
and now you're reaping the reality of that. So nil
is just a symptom of the overall reality that college
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has nothing to do with amateurism, that has nothing to
do with education. It is sheer capitalism. And if you
want to make the change.
Speaker 6 (31:18):
Overall, let's start at the talk to.
Speaker 12 (31:20):
The university presidents and the coaches for decades have been
profiting from this. Now it's come down to the players.
Everybody's making money. There's no loyalty anywhere to be found,
and we don't know what to do. So start at
the top and see if you can get the situation
correction from there.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 12 (31:37):
Bernie, Happy new year.
Speaker 6 (31:38):
Glad to be with you in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Thank you, Andre.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
I appreciate it that I agree with you and Gene
the last caller look, I have no problem with players
getting paid. Coaches get paidybody else gets paid, and a
coach can get up and leave tomorrow. So I played
college baseball, my coach retired, and all of a sudden boom,
coaches quit get better jobs. What's good for the goose
is good for the gander. Curtin Southern California? What's up
by the Happy New Year?
Speaker 13 (32:02):
And made a force be with you? Now there you
go back at you burned two topics. There's n al
It's hard not to think of the temptation song, Fall
of Confusion, players moving out.
Speaker 6 (32:14):
Moving in?
Speaker 10 (32:15):
Why because of the color of their uniform? Run?
Speaker 13 (32:18):
Run, Run, But you sure can't. I and I wanted
to make a shout out to a local San Clementy
quarterback by the name of Sam Donald, who got my
fantasy team to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
I love Sam Donald.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Are you a SoCal guy? You are a SoCal guy.
Isn't it amazing how many quarterbacks San Clementia High schools produced.
Speaker 13 (32:40):
All the way back to Bill Kenny.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Absolutely tons, even before that, Steve de Berg, he played
in the NFL.
Speaker 13 (32:47):
There's a lot of players here.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
All right, But anything else you got tonight.
Speaker 13 (32:51):
Kurt, Yes, I think Oregon and Gabriel. I don't know
if you remember last year when we talked about Gabriel
when he was in Oklahoma, and remember any that game
that he beat Texas. Ye burn, Like you said last
night or the night before, you can buy dance lessons,
but you can't buy rhythm.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
That's correct in this case.
Speaker 13 (33:14):
You can teach EXAs and o's, but you can't teach speed.
And that's what Oklahoma I mean. Oregon is loaded with.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
They got speed over the field. Kurt, thanks so much.
I want to get to all the callers. I think
Ohio State might catch him. They were in shock when
Oregon hit the field with their speed. Their corners were
in shock. But they know what they're up against tomorrow,
later on today, so I think it might be a
different situation.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
James in La, you're up next. What's up, Bud?
Speaker 11 (33:40):
What are you doing?
Speaker 10 (33:40):
Man?
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Go ahead?
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Man?
Speaker 10 (33:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (33:43):
Yeah, Hey, Happy new year to you and all.
Speaker 12 (33:45):
The staff up that you guys are great and I'm
loving it.
Speaker 13 (33:48):
Hey.
Speaker 12 (33:49):
I am so beset as a Raider fan that the
Chiefs will not make it, not even back to super Bow,
let alone win it. And I want to know do
you have any odds on that.
Speaker 6 (34:01):
What are the odds for the.
Speaker 12 (34:02):
Chiefs not winning the Super Bowl and not even making it?
Speaker 6 (34:05):
Either it five to one, four to one, something like that.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Well, they don't put up Chiefs. They don't put up
odds not to make the Super Bowl. They only put
up odds to make the super Bowl. And they are
prohibitive favorites. They're plus three seventy five right now. So
the one hundred dollars wins you back three seventy five.
Speaker 6 (34:24):
Oh, I'll take that bet, I'll take.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
I think the Chiefs are hutting back. I don't think
anybody's going through air ahead and beating them. James, I
didn't manage the clock. Well, I appreciate you calling in
a lot as always. You call my other shows too,
Kyle Hank Tight, You're up next. I'm Bernie Friday. We
are come to you line from the tire dot Com Studios.
Keep it locked in for Ben Mallor Fox Sports Radio.
Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller
(34:47):
Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific. All right,
back at the Ben Mallor Show. Bernie Fratto sitting in
for Ben Maller.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
Happy new Year, everybody.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
We're eleven minutes away from the new year being official
here in Las Vegas. Back out to the phones, right,
you're in Las Vegas, our man, Kyle, how you doing, Kyle, Brother?
Speaker 4 (35:07):
Happy brother, Happy to know you're right back at you, Kyle.
Speaker 6 (35:10):
Very cool, Lorena, Happy, Happy new Year to y'all.
Speaker 10 (35:13):
Two.
Speaker 6 (35:14):
You know what I'm saying. I love the show, love
what you've been doing, brother all year long. This has
been my first official year calling your show, calling the
Maller Show and hanging out with your fellas. But you know,
somewhere out there, maddigrapous still got that time.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Out there you go, that's going to be our running then, man, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (35:33):
Not that, not just that. But raheem Ars has a
time out somewhere soon now. So you got two red coach.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
By the way, Kyle, we taught you you called the
other night. I have it, I have it on good word.
He he always he's been offered a new job already.
He's been offered a job as the assistant janitor to
Manuel Ponyatowski High School.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
But Midgi Minnesota, how's.
Speaker 6 (35:52):
That one that listen? At least you, at least you
won't be able to call a time out there.
Speaker 10 (35:58):
Now.
Speaker 6 (35:58):
That's that's the kicker. There's no time off in janisor'll work.
I know that, but I wanted to say, you, brother,
I love what you've been doing. I love the show
really quick. For all you guys that are hating on
the Kansas City Chiefs out there right now, this this
whole season for them felt like a preseason. They've been
cake walking it. I think they're gonna go into a
hyper overdrift and just dismantle every team that comes their way.
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I know we talked about the MVP race between Josh
Allen and Lamar Jackson the other day. However, is not
even going to be close. Pat Mahomes is going to
get that third MVP for the Super Bowl. He's going
to win another Super Bowl. As much as I hate
to utter those words, He's gonna do it again. They've
been cake walking it, dude. They have all their guys
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healthy again. They're going into this to the second season
very much healthy and better into him than a lot
of these Have.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
You seen what they've done in the last eleven days.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Okay, they're three and oh their margin of victory, yes,
all of a sudden now the touchdown, the points, they're
getting guys back healthy, they've been playing. You know what
I don't get Kyle. You know how harder just to
win a super Bowl and then come back and win
another super Bowl and then you're fifteen and one and
people are acting like they're struggling. Huh.
Speaker 6 (37:13):
Yeah, that's the part that shows me because I've watched
our vacating on the West Coast. We get a vast
majority of their gang. So I've watched the vast majority
of them and I'm sitting that so you know, they're
playing with their food right now. That's all they're doing.
They want you to think the boxer, you know boxing.
They want you to think they all wopadope. I'm gonna
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let you keep the beating me, beating me, beating me,
and then I'm going to hit you with that knockout blow.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
All right, big fellow, Appreciate you man. It's got to
get to all these callers. Look, they got a Hall
of Fame coach or Hall of Fame quarterback, Hall of
Fame tight end, and Hall of Fame Dna Sully.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
We've got to squeeze you in here.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
We just got a minute or two. But thanks for
checking in tonight, Bernie.
Speaker 10 (37:50):
Thanks so much for another year of great weekends. You're
awesome man. Happy new year.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
Thank you for the kind words.
Speaker 10 (37:56):
Oh, first college designated hit or you might have heard
of a guys I played with up Miami Dade North
first college designated here Mike's in twenty third, nineteen seventy three.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Oh Rotenburg, that's right before.
Speaker 10 (38:11):
But I was a college guy before him.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
When you were a didgit Hey, if you played at
Miami Dad, you could play a little bit.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
Man. My friend, that's a good school.
Speaker 10 (38:19):
Walked seventy five guys out for that team, five guys
or five cuts, I mean the starting lineup, and cracked
the starting lineup.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
There's nothing to do.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Teams in Florida. When I was in college, we played
stats and they were tremendous. Could continue on.
Speaker 6 (38:31):
I want to take her.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
I played Chapping College for Tim Flannery and Marty Cassu.
Speaker 10 (38:36):
Okay cool. Pat Putnam was a stud on that Warren
Cramarty was not the stud on that team. Pat Putnam.
We later played for the Seattle Moore Pilots, Mariners and
Textas Rangers. Awesome, Awesome player fifty five games. He had
sixty RBIs.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
That's big time.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
All right, you got about thirty seconds anything else, Sully.
Speaker 10 (38:56):
Just want to thank you again, really really good here
you and have a great one.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Thanks so much for checking and happy to you everybody. Look,
we're gonna take your calls all night. And we got
a couple of guests, good guests. We're gonna dive into
this Raiders thing, coming up with my guy Brian Felban,
who covers the Raiders here for the local Fox affiliate.
And look, and we're gonna break down the college football games.
We gotta get to the top stories of the year.
And again we'll get to all your calls. Hope I
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can do a better job managing the clock, James, I
didn't mean to cut you short there. If you're out there,
you can call back later, Okay, I'm gonna call it honorable.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
I want to make sure you.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Get enough fair of time, and we want to make
sure everybody gets in all right. Coming up is Antonio
up here. It's gonna be back. Are the Raider fan
based pits now that they're actually winning, how does that
affect their draft status and all that other craziness? Kid
at locked right now, you're listening to Bernie Frattle, sitting
in for Ben Maler on Fox Sports Radio.