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January 14, 2025 39 mins

Ben Maller talks about the Cowboys parting ways with Mike McCarthy, Jerry Jones saying that it was a mutual agreement, Jerry speaking to Deion Sanders about taking the job, Maller to the Third Degree, and more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Here we go.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Welcome.

Speaker 3 (00:02):
It's our d or two, our two coaching Carol Selspin's
round and round and round and round and round and
round and round. The Cowboys have said bye bye to
Mike McCarthy. Cowboys owner Jerry Jones says that he and
McCarthy mutually agreed to go in different directions. Is that
how this actually went down? Troy Aikman has criticized the

(00:25):
Cowboys after McCarthy exited stage left. He questions whether it
really is a coveted job in Dallas. How does that
one hit you? And what do you make of Jerry
Jones speaking to Dion Sanders about coaching the Cowboys. We'll
talk about all that and more right now. Say hello

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So I lead this hour. Get back to the coaching
carousel now after the Rams poll acts the vikings in
the game on Monday Night. But are leave this hour
from Jerry's world. The other shoe has dropped in the
never ending soap opera involving how about the Cowboys, Yes,

(02:11):
the Dallas Cowboys. If you have not heard and perhaps
not the Monday morning surprise on wild Card weekend, Mike McCarthy,
turn in your key card. Your services are no longer needed.
McCarthy out as Cowboy coach. He will not return in

(02:32):
twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
He gone.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Jerry Jones, who many thought would not want to go
through a whole coaching search again after at his age
having to deal with all that. So, but Jerry's going
to do it. Jerry Jones and Mike McCarthy were at impass,
could not work out a new agreement, unable to find
common ground. So now Jerry Jones has told Mike McCarthy

(02:56):
to go walk on that ground and go somewhere else.
Jones is trying to spin this story, issuing a prepared
statement saying that this was a mutual parting of the ways,
a mutual parting of the ways, and they decided to
go their different directions. And so this is known as
the spin Zone, the spin Zone by the Dallas Cowboys.

(03:18):
Now there's a lot of different theories that are bouncing
around the echo chamber on why this went down, how
this all went down. So let us toss our couple
of shekels.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
In on this. All right, let's do that. So let
us discuss the.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
Question Cowboys owner Jerry Jones saying that he and coach
Mike McCarthy mutually agreed to go their different directions. I
just decided that's it, We're going to different directions. Is
that how this actually went down? So my observations, I
have alternative rock, Harry Potter, and polyester tracksuit. We'll combine

(03:58):
all of these things together and we are going to
play beachside bingo. Is what we're going to play. Because
Jerry Jones, when he's not on his yacht, when he's
laying out on the beach there, he plays beachside bingo.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Doesn't he look like a guy that played bingo? Now?

Speaker 1 (04:13):
No bur.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
To answer the question, was this actually a mutual parting
of the ways as described by the Cowboys GM and owner. Yeah,
I'm shaking my head very passionately, shaking my head with
my eyes closed. No, the answer is no. This is
not my first trip to the circus. Maybe it's your

(04:41):
first trip to the circus. I've been doing this before
and so I so if you've listened at all over
the years we've been here, that you know my position
on this that I call it the myth of the
mutual breakup, the myth of the mutual breakup. And this
is both in relationships and in also in business. Right,

(05:01):
a business relationship, we're talking about a business relationship, so
we'll focus in on that.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
So a business.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
Relationship ending because both parties at the same time mutually
decided they didn't want to work together.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
It does not happen right.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
One of the parties made the determination that they did
not want to work with the other party. And from
what we are hearing boots on the ground in the
Dallas area there, Jerry Jones did did offer Mike McCarthy
a contract to come back as coach of the Dallas Cowboys,
but it wasn't up to what McCarthy wanted, that's the

(05:39):
word on the street. So McCarthy rejected it, thinking there
would be a better offer to come down the line,
and no better offer came.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
It was one of those take it or leave.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
It moments, that's what we're hearing, and so McCarthy ends
up pounding sand and walking out of the Cowboy facility.
So why did Mike McCarthy decide that play hardball with
Jerry Jones and the Cowboys. So my theory is he's
a fan of alternative rock and this is alternative rock

(06:10):
for Jerry Jones, for Mike McCarthy with Jerry Jones, meaning
that Mike McCarthy has options, He has alternatives that.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
He thinks rock. Right.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
He's Kyle al Turns. He's got an agent working the
back channels through intermediaries, negotiating with the teams that are
not allowed to talk to Mike McCarthy.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Happens all the time.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
So they were testing the Waters and what they heard
back must have been pretty good. Right, He's got an
inside track. He has the same agent Mike McCarthy as
the gam manager of the Bears. Everyone's in bed with everyone,
nepotism and all that fraternization. So you've got that connection.
There's also the Saints that are said to be interested
in Mike McCarthy. Imagine how much gumball McCarthy's gonna eat

(06:49):
if he goes to New Orleans. My guy, Now, McCarthy
is a football lifer, right, football lifer, meat and potatoes,
meathead football guy.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
And so he's one of these guys. He does not care.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
About all the glitz and glamour, the pop and circumstance
of the Dallas football team. For him, it's like, you
go coach somewhere. I not coaching New Orleans. I'll go wherever.
I don't care. I'll coach in Timbuck two. As long
as I'm getting a lot of money. I'm a head coach.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
He'll be the exciting new coach in whatever city he
goes to, whether that's Chicago or New Orleans.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
And that's that.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
And you'll win some regular season games and you'll disappoint
and that'll be that with whoever he ends up. Mike McCarthy,
that's what you get with Mike McCarthy now Paget Tree. So,
following the dismissal of the rotund Cowboys sideline boss Mike McCarthy,
Troy Aikman entered the chat the group chat, and Troy

(07:44):
Aikman criticized that Cowboys Troy Aikman Dallas Royalty. Following the
removal the departure of Mike McCarthy, Aikman question whether or
not the Dallas Cowboy head coaching job is a coveted job.
How does that one hit you? Troy Aikman Not so sure.

(08:06):
It's a coveted job coaching the Dallas caboty. So this
is for Troy Aikman, it's Harry Potter like Harry Potter
like for Troy Aikman. Akman using the tickle belt. If
you will hear tickling the dragon's tail, Tickle tickle, that's
what he's doing for Jerry Jones here. And no matter

(08:26):
how bleak things look, no matter how pathetic things are,
for the team with the star on the side of
their helmet, it doesn't matter. The Cowboy job today and
for as long as Jerry Jones there is a plum
job for a couple of reasons, right, A couple of
reasons is a plumb job. First of all, you're coaching

(08:46):
professional football and the most popular, the most popular football
league in America, right, most popular sports league in America.
You're coaching the most popular team in that league, the
team worth the most money. And Jerry Jones can be
the biggest stumblebum around.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
And I'm not gonna argue with that.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Jerry's had thirty years. The Cowboys are celebrating their thirtieth anniversary,
the last time they were any good. And yet it
doesn't matter, right, you do the arithmetic on the situation
for the Cowboys and things like this.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
With the Cowboys, it just moves the needle. They are the.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
Straw that stirs the drink in the NFL. And when
their games are on Fox, Fox has the highest TV ratings.
When their games aren't on Fox, they don't have the
highest TV ratings. Very rarely do those two things not
coincide with each other. But it's really one of those things.
If you build it, they will come, and if you
can be the guy. And all these coaches have giant egos.
If you can be the coach that ends up turning

(09:48):
the misery around, then you will be canonized around the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Now everyone wants that.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
It's a giant hit for your ego, a positive hit
if you can do it. And so that's where we are. Now,
final point. Let's get to the Komodo dragon in the room.
So coach exit stage right. You then have to bring
in a coach stage left.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
What are you gonna do?

Speaker 3 (10:15):
All right, let's take a look at it. So the
reports that are circulating, dramatic reports. I'm assuming you've heard
about these if you pay attention, but maybe not so.
The story is that Jerry Jones has had conversations with
Dion Sanders, coach prime from Colorado. So what do you

(10:36):
make of the GM slash owner of the Dallas Cowboys,
Jerry Jones having a chit chat with Dion Sanders about
coaching the Cowboys?

Speaker 2 (10:47):
What are you making it?

Speaker 4 (10:50):
So?

Speaker 3 (10:50):
My first thought is it's on brand, It's on brand.
It's something that needs to happen for the drama O
rama of the day. Alice Cabot, Jerry Jones, we can
all shake our head in agreement. Is the ultimate or
not our head and agreement. He's the ultimate look at
me guy, the ultimate look at me guy. Grandstanding, that's

(11:12):
what Jerry's great at. He's a carnival barker. And I
just imagine Jerry Jones walking around the Cowboy facility when
he's not on camera and he's wearing a vintage Al
Davis like polyester tracksuit and he's he's doing that check
me out, jog.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
You know that, check me out, jog.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
I look at me posing and preening and all that,
and all those coach prime would be right up Jerry Jones' sleeve.
With one caveat, because the only issue here the showmanship wonderful,
the boastfulness outstanding, the bravado, the charisma of Dion Sanders

(11:54):
are all perfectly in line with the Dallas Cowboy. The
issue is rather obvious that Jerry Jones has never wanted
anyone to upstage Jerry Jones. One of the reasons that
he had a big issue with Jimmy Johnson years ago,
if you're old enough to remember that, is because Jimmy
Johnson was getting all the credit that annoyed Jerry Jones.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
He said, what about me? They tried to hire Bill Parcels.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
He did work for the Dallas Cowboys and a couple
of roles for the team, and that annoyed Jerry Jones
although they didn't win. In that situation, he much rather
have a guy like Dave Campo as the coach of
the Cowboys or the clapper clap on, clap off the clapper, Yeah,
Jason Garrett.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
He'd much rather have that kind of a coach.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
But he would bring Dion in because you'd win the
popular vote. The casual fan would celebrate Deon Sanders and say,
re we got Dion. He's a big name. And Dion
will feed the beast. He will feed the machine that
is the marketing arm of the Dallas Cowboys. From that perspective, Now,
whether or not he wins or not, eh, But is

(12:58):
that anaw to overcome the fact that Jerry would have
to allow the stage to have Dion on it, meaning
is he.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
Willing to share share the sugar? We don't know.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
And if not, Deon, does Jerry have a plan B?
And the names that are out there do not really
get you all Tingley. The names that are out there
are Kellen Moore, who Jerry Jones cited with Mike McCarthy.
Kellen Moore is the offensive coordinator in Philadelphia. He went
to the Chargers for a year. Now he's in Philadelphia.
But there was a power play between McCarthy and Kellen Moore,

(13:33):
and Kellen Moore was sacrificed and they kept Mike McCarthy.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
So now you got rid of McCarthy.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
Now you're gonna be in Kellen Moore when you chose
McCarthy over Kelly Moore. The other options are like Cliff Kingsbury.
He's got ties to Texas, the state of Texas, and
he's the hot name right now because Jaden Daniels happens
to be good, so there's a possibility that that happens
as well. We'll talk about any of that, any of
the other names that aren't all that exciting. Kind of

(14:01):
a blah blah coaching carousel. We'll open up the lines
of this hour. We'll take a bunch of calls by
some big name, some legends. Show Legends are lined up
eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. There is one
line open though eight seven seven nine nine six six
three sixty nine, also on the X Machine at Ben Mahlor.

(14:23):
That is at Ben Mahler. If you'd like to be
part of said program. The Rams are onto the divisional round.
They're into the Elite eight of the NFL and they've advanced.
They beat Minnesota, beat them convincingly. Now, he gave me
the latest on the head coaching searche of the Dallas Cowboys.
But is it true that one of the NFL's highest paid,

(14:48):
biggest name quarterbacks has had their name their name tossed
into the offseason flea market, that there's a possibility, there's
a scenario in the multiverse we're one of the biggest
named quarterbacks in the NFL ends up entering the transfer
portal in a MEGAMEGAMEGAMEGA trade. We'll get to the bottom

(15:12):
of that, and we will do it.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Next.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
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(16:09):
go right now, Away we go, Yes, that is correct, Bill, Away,
we go late night drug Tester rights and it says,
if Jerry Jones wants some sizzle to win the press conference,
I can coach the Cowboys for half the prize. Dion
is asking, I am just as much as showman in
the lab. I'm sure you are. I'm sure you are. Yeah,

(16:33):
there you go, Big Lou. He's on number due. He's bragging,
he's doing a victory lap. He's like Jerry Jones. He said,
look at me, look at me. He was on the
Clipper postgame TV show standing right behind mister McLain there.
Don McLean on the use on the Clipper rod because
you see a legend back in the day.

Speaker 5 (16:55):
I just found my bacon sizzling button and I really
want to play it.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Oh what else does that sound like other than bacon?
Trying to think maybe rain falling on.

Speaker 6 (17:09):
A nice to day.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yeah, like a nice meadow. Yeah, very rainy. We need rain.
Can we do a rain Danceeez? We need rain.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
We need a lot of rain. I'll even take some snow.
It didn't get a little chili though last nay la
la chili. It was like thirty nine degrees of my trip.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Home, really thirty nine out here in the beautiful sand
Fernando Valley. Thirty jaw was chattering when I went outside.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
It's a little chili. Thirty nine degrees. Yeah, according to
the thermometer thing in my car, thirty nine degrees. And
then it warmed up like twenty degrees right away. But
it was like it was chili. Let's go to the phones.
We'll say hello to Helmet Man. He's our own superhero.
Hello Helmet Man the morning.

Speaker 4 (17:54):
Top of the morning.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Helmet Man. Sounds like you have a sinus infection.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
It was all the time, you know, I was, I'll
take the short charlos.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
Now you take short showers. That's why you got sick.

Speaker 4 (18:12):
No, I used to take the long ones. Yeah, only
take thirty minutes.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Now, bo time out, time out, time out, time out.
That's a that's a short shower for you. Thirty minutes?

Speaker 7 (18:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (18:26):
What are you washing?

Speaker 4 (18:28):
Don't ask that question, right, I used to do almost
two hours, but I do it thirty now.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Who's paying your water bill?

Speaker 4 (18:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Okay, so you know about water and power? I take
water water power?

Speaker 6 (18:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yeah. Do you think that's a little excessive? What do you?

Speaker 4 (18:52):
What?

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Do you stand there read a book? What are you?
What are you doing in there?

Speaker 4 (18:56):
I'm looking on a tablet.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Doesn't it get wet? What in the shower?

Speaker 3 (19:03):
No?

Speaker 4 (19:05):
I usually have it on my bed the tablet. Only
pay eleven dollars a month on electric.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
Well, you don't need to brag about that. But you
say you take half an hour of showers. That seems
like a lot. Do you have a bathtub? Maybe you
should find a bathtub and just sit in the bathtub
if you can find one.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
No, I I got the bun. You have to stand
up there?

Speaker 3 (19:25):
Okay, it seems like a lot, though, help it man.
That's like thirty minutes.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
I mean I don't.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
I don't really time my showers, but I'm usually in
there and out of there with you know, no more
than like seven minutes.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
I think I don't any more than that. I think
that's about right.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
I don't even know if I'm in there that long, Lorena,
how long do you shower for?

Speaker 6 (19:45):
Lorea?

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Well, then it depends.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
So if I wash my hair and shave my legs,
then maybe it's like twenty five minutes.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
That seems like a long time.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
But if it's just a body wash, I'm in there
and out like it's fat.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
That's what a hamburger is all about. Two songs on YouTube.
Oh but you don't want to hear how long hoops
in the shower for? I got you.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
I think they got a chance to beat Buffalo up there.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
I think they got shot.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
You know, you don't think Lamar Jackson is gonna pull
a Lamar Jackson in that game?

Speaker 4 (20:15):
Yeah, I think he's gonna call a miracle a miracle.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
I don't know if that would be a miracle. Those
are two of the top teams in the NFL. I
don't be a miracle to win that game.

Speaker 4 (20:27):
Sense to the Rams. They could be dangerous in the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
Now that's right, all right, helmet man, go to bed
right now. Take some medicine. You need to sleep, You
need to rest up. Okay, you to get back. You're
not healthy. You gotta rest up.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
Okay, okay, all.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Right, buddy, take care. The great helmet man right there,
he's under the weather. He still gets paid for that call, though,
Am I wrong?

Speaker 1 (20:51):
You think?

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Thirty thirty minutes just seems like a long time to me?
And that's he was doing two hour showers.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
That was his short shower. That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
Well, he's looking out for the water supply here in California.
I wonder where I went ran out of water in
the fire because helmet man's taking his showers all day.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Could you imagine how wrinkly your fingers would be after that?
Oh yeah, you could climb the walls.

Speaker 5 (21:11):
God Man wondering if there was like a miscommunication there
or something.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
No, no, I've met helmet man. I don't think there
was a miscommunication. I think he has taken two hour showers.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
There's no way there. It's possible.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
He probably leaves the water on, takes some shower, walks out,
walks back in the shower. He's not in there for
a solid two hours, but the water's running for two hours.
He's probably walking out there reading something, watching something, and
watching the OJ trial on TV. Walking back into the
shower for another twenty minutes.

Speaker 5 (21:41):
I feel like you would, you would damage your bathroom
like you like?

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Yeah, I mean yeah too much.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
Well, remember helmet Man told this in his old place
there he had an infestation of cockroa two. So I
do not think he's too worried about the the places
he's living in. You know, I think he's okay with that.
Let's go back to the phones. We'll slo to Sir
scratch Off, who I don't think he wanted us to
have any fun anymore. Hello, Sir scratch Off, Welcome, Hey man,

(22:10):
what's going on?

Speaker 7 (22:11):
I'll tell you what. We've been really busy out here, man,
I ain't been able to do nothing nice hearing at Christmas.
We've been off four days to snow. I'm finally getting
to get back and call out and see what's going on.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
I know, I thought you were retired as a caller.
That was the rumor the boys were saying to Sir
scratch Offs, upset with you. You said something to offend him,
and so he's not calling the show anymore.

Speaker 4 (22:30):
No, I wouldn't fit in, ben.

Speaker 7 (22:31):
I don't get it fitting if I got offended you, buddy,
I've been fitting a long time ago. No, I just
I've been thinking about all those folks out here. You know,
Brad Paisley and much of them lost their homes and
they were.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Playing.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
I don't really worry about the celebrity. I worry about
the regular people. I don't worry about the celebrities they
can afford to rebuild. I don't care about it.

Speaker 7 (22:49):
I do too to think about it like this, man,
it could be you. You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
I'm not a celebrity. I'm a regular person, so for me,
I'm not I'm trust me. I don't get paid like
a celebrity. I'm not a liberty, so I am a
regular person. I feel bad for the regular people, the people.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
Their whole life. I wanted to be like Lady Gott
I'm not likely lady.

Speaker 7 (23:10):
You know what the hell I said? I said, people
think a lot of you out there. You don't ever listen.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Appreciate that.

Speaker 7 (23:18):
Yes, yeah we do. Man, we've know for a long time.
I'll tell you one. Oh, I'm really proud of tonight
because them rams really stepped up. And I'll be honest
to you. I was kind of worried. I know, we
beat you bikes during the same season, but I got
rid of the standards one nephew, and then I got
rid of bikers tonight, and now I got to play
the nephew son. He's a he's a big Eagles fan.
So I just can't get rid of these families. They're
all still in there, you know, at least one right now.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
Yeah, well, listen the Rams. They can get Jalen Hurts
to play like Sam Donald.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
They're in good shape.

Speaker 7 (23:48):
Was that not crazy? I said, I got to watch that.
My truck was late coming in, you know, and stuff
to bring my stuff to me, So I got to
watch almost every of the game. I told my wife,
I said, man, that poor Feller's gonna feel like a biblehead.
And when he gets done that game, because every time
he got up, they knocked him back like down. I'm like,
what was it like nine or ten times? They kept
smacking you know. Yeah, but I was proud of the Rams.

(24:11):
I just I've been so happy to him. And who
would have figured it's the first season, how we suck
so bad and all of a sudden they'll go right
right now, you know.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
Yeah, For five weeks, the Rams, the first five weeks
of the year, the Rams were buried they were not
good at all.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
I had all these I had.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
These guys like No stre Denis and all these Sea
Off fans. They're all hiding though, like all those clowns
in Seattle, all those guys.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
All the Rams are gonna lose their first playoff game.
Oh okay, you know what got me?

Speaker 7 (24:36):
So I tell you what made me so happy. Oh
to get to use the Cardinal Stadium. After my two
brothers dropped, you know, their Cardinal fans, and I said, man,
you're gonna get see a playoff. Gave me a stadium,
you know.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
Yeah, first time they've hosted a playoff game in that
stadium since twenty sixteen, almost ten years last time they
had a playoff game there.

Speaker 7 (24:55):
Oh know, man, I'm just happy right now. I mean
I would have go into wool. I like to hide.
Jordan hurts, I really do.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
I have washing through baman.

Speaker 7 (25:02):
I watched the gold Plahoma stuff.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
But I like dating.

Speaker 7 (25:04):
But I'll tell you one thing. If we don't make
it to the super Bowl, I want to see Allen
go in there and whoop the hell out of that deck.
Mahomes and I want to Pholes done this season.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Okay, that's what you want, you want to, we want to.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
Let's let's put it as far as Jalen Hursts, though,
if Jalen Hurts has the ball in his hands to
win the game, you're in good shape of you the Rams.
If they can stop and not you're gonna stop Barkley.
But if you can slow Barkley down a little bit
and force Jalen Hurts to make plays, you're in good
shape of You're the Rams.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
You got a great chance to win that game if.

Speaker 7 (25:33):
We bring this team to the day Eagles, if we
bring the teams or not we had, I think we'll
have a good chance.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
Well, of course you will, but promise Sam Darnold doesn't
play for the other team.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
That's the problem. All Right, I gotta go, I gotta go.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
Thank you, all right, I'm glad you're back, sir, scratch
off as return to the show. Andre is in the Commonwealth. Hello, Andre, welcome.

Speaker 8 (25:55):
How you doing Bett, It's good to be with you. Listen, Uh,
you know what happened in this Monday night football game.
You know you mentioned some things in the previous but
I have to use a word. It was my sugar enough, okay,
sugar nu In terms of head of Vikings came out
in the absolute no show. How do you win fourteen games?
How do you compete to be the to be the

(26:16):
Kings in the NFD North and then have a no show?
And I don't want to hear anything about the home
field advantage?

Speaker 4 (26:22):
Right. They were crying about.

Speaker 8 (26:24):
It as the regular season finished, talking about we need
to revise how we do the playoff seedings and why
does the divisional round teams get home field? You know,
they's already edging their bet before they got the breaks
beat off of them by the Lions, weren't they?

Speaker 4 (26:36):
Right then, I would say, with.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
You making that statement, you have a lot of hutswah.
That's what I would say.

Speaker 8 (26:43):
I have a lot of a team with fourteen wins. Okay,
just got manhandled.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Because Sam Donald's Sam Donald's klutz. What do you want
me to say?

Speaker 4 (26:53):
Okay, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (26:55):
It's my sugar enough.

Speaker 8 (26:57):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
You know again, I like that you're using Yiddish. I
appreciate that. Are you a big fan of the Yiddish?
I like the Yiddish too. I use a lot of Yiddish.
I didn't know uh you could say schmendrick. I think
that's probably a better word schmendrick. Right, that's it's very
similar to my sugar, Schmendrick. Foolish and competent persons of Schmendrick.

Speaker 8 (27:21):
Okay, yeah, we had some incompetence that was going on
that you don't even score ten points, you know, and
it hurts me.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
Because Sugar, it just means you're like crazy, Sugar, you're crazy.

Speaker 7 (27:32):
That means it's crazy.

Speaker 8 (27:34):
It's it's mind boggling to me.

Speaker 7 (27:36):
And here's what.

Speaker 8 (27:36):
Let me make the connecting point. I know you got
other callers, but I had to make the connecting point. Okay,
I borrowed I didn't steal it. Then I borrowed that
word from your good buddy, mister Rob. I knew it.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
I knew you took that Rock Parker. I knew it.
I knew it.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
I know because Rob grew up in New York and
all everyone uses Yiddish, right, all covetch is what they
do there, they can play in and all that.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
I knew it. I knew you.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
Yes, come on, you know what that is. Vercocta is
what that is. That's another year this word that means crap. Yeah,
ver cocta.

Speaker 8 (28:07):
Yes, no, I don't feel that way because I know
you guys got the connection. Okay, and you're the won
two punch what Shaq and Kobe was for the NBA. Okay,
Parker and Mount.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
That's right, man, we are. That's right exactly. Because he's
a mench That's why I need a cold shower. Okay,
he needs a cold shower. Just don't take man. Let
me ask you though we had the helmet man on.
He says he takes his his short showers thirty minutes.
He used to take two hour shore Andre, how long
does Andre and the Commonwealth sit in the shower for?

Speaker 8 (28:38):
Okay, well, you know, fifteen minutes is pushing it.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
And that's right. That's that's a proper amount of time
for a shower. You're do it right. You were raised properly.
Not half an hour.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
No, no, no, And I met hel one man's like
eight hundred pounds. He's a regular sized human being.

Speaker 8 (28:54):
Yeah, we can't do it. We can't do We got
to conserve. We got to conserve the water, you know
what I mean? So Ben again, thank you for the time.
Good to be the dynamic duo. Parker in mouth, Yes,
like you hurt my heart, Sugar, na out there.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
All right, my sugar, n all right, go thank He's
got the cleanest ass.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
All right. That's the shtick. That's another stick. That's the yiddister.
The Yiddish words can one work into a conversation.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
Keith writes and says, ocho text o helmet man probably
showers like Cosmo Kramer on the Seinfeld episode Cooking Food,
et cetera. Yes, yes, I agree. I think that's exactly
what he does. He probably has the shower running, He's
in there for a few minutes, he walks out, he
maybe reads something, walks back, the showers running the whole time.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Do you ever get distracted when you're trying to get
in the shower bed?

Speaker 3 (29:42):
No, I'm very focused. I'm in and out when i'm
I do not spend a lot of time dilly dowly.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Like, oh, I forgot I had something on the stove.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
No I know, No, I I one time I left
something on the stove and I had I was at
the gym and I had this flash in my head
of the house on fire.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
So I left the gym and I ran and I
left the pot and you actually left it. I left
it on Yeah, you remembered in your house.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
My subconscient is weird because it was I saw this
vision in my head while.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
I was on the treadmill, and I was like, wait
a minute, So.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
I just I had to go home to double check,
and sure enough I had left the pot on.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
I do that with the garage door. Oh leave it open? Well,
I think I leave it open, but it's just so
natural because I pushed the button all the time.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
So you push the button, I know you're not sure,
and then you gotta go, but you better go back
because you don't want to forget. And then it's a
big deal. You can't leave it open because somebdy walk
right into your house. Bad news bears, that's that's a problem.
So interesting storyline involving Dion Sanders, his name coming up
for the Cowboys, and some of the gambling books are

(30:50):
tossing out the possibility. It proposed a trade scenario in
which the Dallas Cowboys would say bye bye to Dakota Prescott,
that Dion Sanders coming inbound and dak Prescott would go
outbound from Dallas. Now the Cowboys just a year ago,

(31:12):
Jerry Jones said pay the man, pay the man, and
so dak Prescott His salary cap hit this year will
be eighty nine point eight million.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
He is going to be earning.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
Forty seven point seven million dollars this upcoming season twenty
twenty five for the Cowboys. The rumor is that Dion
Sanders would be hired as the coach of the Cowboys,
and then the Cowboys would say arivedece to their quarterback
Dak Prescott. They would trade him to the Tennessee Titans

(31:47):
in exchange for.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
The number on overall.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
Pick, and then they would also send a twenty twenty
five fourth round pick and another third round pick in
twenty twenty six to the Tennessee Titan. And the theory
would be they would they would try to work the
draft f Nagel the draft to get both Dion Sanders
Shder Sanders and his kid, his other kid, uh Shiloh

(32:11):
Sanders on the Dallas Cowboys and reunite the band. So
will that happen? I did see Dak Prescott said he
was bummed. He was bummed that Mike McCarthy is not
remaining as the Cowboy coach. I don't know that I'd
be that bummed if I'm making forty seven billion dollars
I think I would be. I'd be like, hey, I
can still text him whatever I want. It's like, like

(32:33):
anyone's gonna really impede my my chance to say hello
to Mike when I want. Anyways, it is the Ben
Mahler Show. Let's say hello to Mike in Vegas and
Hello to Mike.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Welcome.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Oh my god, Oh Mike.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
This is mouth wash Mike. He's back his mouth wash Mike.
He's returned. You're alive. You're still alive. Hallelujah.

Speaker 7 (33:00):
It's amazing.

Speaker 6 (33:01):
I've probably been in emergency room six times since I've
seen you. Lass.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
Oh man, that was one of the kindest offers I've
ever had in a Mallard meet. And and you offered
to go to the Belagio and go swimming in the
fountains of the Blagio.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
That was so nice.

Speaker 6 (33:18):
You know, I haven't done it since.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
So it's a little cold right now to jump in
the fountains at the bag well y, yeah.

Speaker 4 (33:28):
It's actually warm in the pond.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Who is they warm the water in the Belagio? Who knew?

Speaker 6 (33:34):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, the water is warm, but it's
just when you get out.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
And what kind of mouthwash are we drinking tonight.

Speaker 6 (33:42):
Yeah, let's see, it's Walmart brand, Walmart brand on it's
a great value.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
And you don't you don't like the green. You don't
like the blue. You're you're traditionalist. You like the yellow, right, yeah,
the yellow because that's got the highest that's got the
highest alcohol content.

Speaker 6 (34:03):
Right yeah, yeah, yeah, like that, like that movie with
deklayed and uh Chevy cheese.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
And that's the way I like h Man, mouthwash Mike,
what a legend. Now we're hoping we're hoping to come
back to now mouthwash Mike.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
We're hoping to come back to Vegas later this year
for another malard meaning green.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
So you got to come by and say hello if
we we end up in town, right, yeah.

Speaker 4 (34:32):
You know, and uh, you know, I'll be looking forward
to it. I haven't listening to you in a while.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Why not?

Speaker 3 (34:40):
Why do you not listen anymore? You're You're a legend
on the show. You got to keep listening to. What's
wrong with you?

Speaker 4 (34:49):
Well?

Speaker 6 (34:49):
I got hooked on this game called Candy Crush.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
You know you can listen on you Do you have
an I assume you have an Obama phone?

Speaker 4 (34:57):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (34:59):
Well not currently?

Speaker 2 (35:01):
Okay, Well, how do you play?

Speaker 7 (35:03):
How do you play?

Speaker 2 (35:07):
All right?

Speaker 3 (35:07):
Well, I gotta go because there's a clock situation. But
you can play Candy Crush and listen if you have
an Obama phone or a smartphone.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
All right, time now for the instat Trivia.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
Blank is the only quarterback in NFL history to play
three home playoff games against rookie quarterbacks in their career. Again, Blank,
the only quarterback in NFL history to play three home
games against rookie quarterbacks in their career. That's the Insta Trivia.
The answer, and we'll get the Mallard of the third
degree next.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
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lot back to it. We go, yes and now quickly, quickly,
Bill quickly, Bill time now for the Insta Trivia. Blank

(36:12):
is the only quarterback in NFL history to play three
home playoff games against rookie quarterbacks, the only one to
do it. That is the question. What's the answer? Uncle
Rico from The Georgia Boy. Julie Neumar from I forty Ian,
Chris Jericho from Rob in Vegas. Dave Grohl, who is
fifty six a day from Late Night Drug tester Missus

(36:34):
Mahler guest by Alf the Alien Opiner, The Master of
the Hour Shower Me ferg Dog is the answer, Jim
Sorgie guest by Malibu Rubin. That's his answer. Mike Palorulo
pegs He's an old Yankee Third Basement, had an amazing
year in nineteen eighty seven and did nothing the rest

(36:55):
of his career. That's from mister nice guy. Chuck Long
guessed by Donkey Sausage. Jimmy Ray from Tampa Bage. I
Love Jimmy Ray from one of my favorite callers all time.
Jimmy Ray from Tampa Bay. May he rest in peace.
J T the Wingman going Bobby Bouchay unless it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Who else you have?

Speaker 3 (37:13):
Page down Terrelle Pryor guests by Ike and Roseville, Minnesota,
Tom Brady from That Boy, Malcolm Peyton Manning guests by
Robbie the Mariner, fan Achille Smith from Trucker, Joe Tammy,
and Montana says she appreciates hearing from mouthwash Mike. All right,
don't we all Tammy? What a great memory that was?
All right, Ray, do you have an answer one.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
Of my favorite players, Ben, Tim Tebow?

Speaker 3 (37:37):
Is it Tim Tebow? No, it is not Tim Tebow?
The correct answer from your Buffalo Bills. Come on down.
If you said Josh Allen, three easy playoff games with Josh.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Allen, here we go, we go to the third is
one big gets grailled, goobolo.

Speaker 5 (38:02):
So with the recent news of the firing of Mike McCarthy,
this is still not out of the realm of possibilities. Uh,
you know, per se. But former Cowboys coach Jimmy Johnson
had a wild proposal on Sunday. He suggested that, since
things have gotten stale for both the Cowboys and the Steelers,
that the team should swap head coaches. Yes, Ben, how
do you think McCarthy would be on the Steelers and

(38:24):
Tomlin on the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
Forse the coup?

Speaker 3 (38:26):
That's impossible because McCarthy's no longer employed by the Cowboys.
So I'm glad Jimmy Johnson got that in the on
TV because the rumor died the next day. McCarthy's he's
no longer employed by the Cowboys and Mike thomains to
be traded next.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
I mean, not a trade, but how would they Jimmy
Johnson said there would be a trade.

Speaker 5 (38:43):
Yes, that's it's a whole report, but on each team.
Despite drawing interest from teams as head coaching candidate, reports
are that Cliff Kingsbury may turn down interview requests as
he's still being paid by the Cardinals and is happy
in Washington.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
But are you buying this report?

Speaker 3 (38:58):
Well, no, he's no. You don't turn down a job.
He's got another year or so because he's being played
by the Cardinals. Fine, that's right, but now you only
have so many chances to be a head coach do
you take the opportunity? So I don't believe that report.
He would become a head coach. He take the job,
assuming they don't lowball him next.

Speaker 5 (39:16):
Earlier in the weekend, Vlad Guarre Junior and the Blue
Jays agreed to a one year, twenty eight and a
half million dollars deal to avoid arbitration. Ben, Do you
think this ends any trade speculation?

Speaker 3 (39:24):
No, Toronto's a middling team. They're a bad team. And
you know, baseball starting in like first spring training games
like a little over a month from today, the Cactus
League in the Great Fruit League. But yeah, the Blue Jays.
If they get off to a bad start, all bets
are off and great.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
He could be traded before opening day. It's not off
the table. How do we know you failed? This is
gonna win by me. You dated quest i coop data
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