Hour 2 - Deep Dish

Ben Maller talks about Mike McCarthy planning to meet with the Bears first, if there will be a bidding war for McCarthy, Nick Sirianni blasting critics of A.J. Brown's sideline book-reading, Maller to the Third Degree, and more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
There she blows, it's our number two, our two former
Cowboys coach Mike McCarthy later today, planning to meet with
the Bears. He's going to talk with the Bears first.
What does this tell us? Reading the tea leaves? What
does that tell us? Also? Do you foreshadow a bidding
war for Mike McCarthy as the Saints are said to

(00:23):
be interested? Also, Eagles coach Nick Sirianni blasting lazy critics
of what the media called disgruntled wide receiver Aj Brown
is sideline book reading. What's your school of thought on
this one? We'll keep the suspense going on this fifteenth
day of January, this Wednesday. Here it is our number two,

(00:47):
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So lead this hour from the unemployment line. That is
where we continue our in depth team coverage of the

(01:50):
coaching carousel. Round and round and round and round and
round and round and round and round. It goes every year,
round and round, faster and faster and faster. Big money,
big money is stop. Now things are moving lickety split.
For someone that doesn't normally move that fast. That would
be former former Cowboys coach Mike McCarthy. You've not been

(02:12):
following along, maybe not, you might have missed it. So
we've learned now that Mike McCarthy already has in interviews
set up with Dub Bears for later today. Now this
is not one of those half ass zoom interviews. No no, no, no,
no no zoom here, no laptops, no smartphones are needed.

(02:37):
You see, the Chicago Bears are flying in Mike McCarthy
for an in person interview at Hallis Hall, and that's
only their second in person meeting of the coaching interview
process the head hunting season for the Chicago football team.
Dub Bears are going to take Mike McCarthy out to

(02:59):
a nice dinner after they have a private sit down
at the Bears facility. They're gonna have a private meal
at some high falutin local restaurant in the back room.
You know those restaurants that have the VIP room that
you've got to save and you only like the really
wealthy people get to go in there and get the specially. Yeah,

(03:20):
that's where they're gonna bring Mike McCarthy after he meets
at Hallas Hall with the Bear. So let us discuss
the question. Mike McCarthy is planning on meeting with the
Bears first, He's not met with anyone else. Say, he's
gonna meet with the Bears first. What does that tell us?
What does that tell us? So I have Doctor Love, Invention,

(03:44):
Dimension and Star Trek, and we will combine all of
these things together and try not to go bokers. We're
gonna try not to go bonkers. So no, so what

(04:04):
does it tell all? Right, the thing's broken? What does
it tell us Mike McCarthy planning to meet with the
Bears first, that tells us there is a mutual admiration society. Okay,
that's what that tells McCarthy is sitting in the driver's seat,
and as long as he has good table manners here,
he's in solid shape. The Bears are rolling out the

(04:25):
Red Carbon, a notoriously frugal franchise. The Chicago Bears are
planning to whine and especially dine Mike McCarthy. So the
soundtrack to this part of the story is a disco
tune Doctor Love from the girl group First Choice. Because McCarthy, right, McCarthy,

(04:46):
he is at the very top. He his first choice
is the Bears, and it would it be it would
appear to be the bears first choice? Is Mike McCarthy.
Is that outrageous? Am I being a shock jock? I
don't think I am a Dan's rather self explained, you
don't have to have any inside knowledge that Mike McCarthy
waited to get out of Dallas. The Bears did not

(05:08):
hire a coach ride away. Remember New England Patriots already
hired their coach. They knew they wanted Mike Rabel. They
hired Mike Rabel the Chicago Bears. It sounds like they
want Mike McCarthy, but they had to wait. So they
played the little game and they pretended like they were
searching the web to find a head coach, and now
they've got their guy coming to town later. There's major

(05:30):
cronyism in play here, but major cronyism in play. As
we have laid out in previous episodes of this radio
program that Mike McCarthy shares the same agent with the
Chicago Bears in Battle General Manager Ryan Pulls, So there
is some nepotism in play. That's a big part of this.

(05:52):
These talks have likely been going on behind the scenes
for some time, and it's just a matter of getting
together and making sure that the optic are good on this.
Chicago has a helping hand. They have a helping hand because,
as I said, everyone's in bed with everyone else in
this story, which is why why Mike McCarthy had leverage

(06:14):
with Jerry Jones. Now there is a conspiracy theory that
I came across here recently. The intention all along was
Jerry Jones did not want to bring back Mike McCarthy.
Mike McCarthy did not want to come back, but they
wanted to play this game, so both sides look good,
meaning Jerry didn't fire McCarthy to sully Mike McCarthy's reputation.

(06:37):
McCarthy and Jones pretended like they were negotiating. They never
actually talked about a contract. This is the conspiracy theory.
And they just let the clock run out, and that
way they said, well, we just couldn't work out a deal,
and we love Mike and he'll go somewhere else, and
Jerry doesn't look bad for firing coach McCarthy doesn't look
bad for getting fired, and you move on. That's the

(07:01):
grand conspiracy of it all. But you wonder which steakhouse.
There's some fine restaurants that's a good food town Chicago.
Do they go steakhouse? Do they go pizzeria? That deep
dish Chicago pizza? And now people in Chicago say, the
locals say, wow, we don't eat the deep dish, that's
for the tourists, but we eat the regular pizza in Chicago.

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But where does McCarthy go. And there'll be some waiter
or a couple of waiters who are going to have
the inside skinny. They are going to know loose lips,
sink ships and feed insiders. And they will have insider
knowledge later today on whether or not this is a
done deal. Is this a celebratory meal where they go

(07:44):
out and have a nice, expensive dinner to celebrate the
start of a new bond, a new friendship. All right now,
pitched you with Mike McCarthy headed to Chicago for a
meet and greet. I was reading that the New Orleans
Saints are also said to be bird dogging the portly
coach who's available? So question do you foreshadow? Do you

(08:08):
foreshadow a bidding war for Mike McCarthy? So I'd like
I'd like two letters on the wheel of fortune. I'd
like an N and can I get a no? How
about no? How about no? This is a trip to
the invention dimension, the invention dimension, people writing the coattails

(08:30):
of Mike McCarthy, It's more probable than not have been busy, busy,
very busy concocting a story, inventing a story out of
thin air. Here social media warfare, which is a more
potent tool, easier to manipulate the minds of the unwashed.
Back in the old days, you used to have to

(08:50):
plan stories by paying off media people, bribing journalists. But
now you can just get a bunch of bot accounts
and the right algorithm them on the social media and
you can plant the stories all over the place. You
don't have to pay a bunch of journalists. You just
spend a little bit of money on bot accounts and

(09:11):
those sock puppet accounts. You're on your way. So but
you don't drive the price up for a guy like
Mike McCarthy's that fair to say. He's not the worst
coach in the NFL. He's certainly not the best. And
the Bears and the Saints they have strooge like tendencies
when it comes to their finances. New Orleans is more
of like a starter job. It's a reclamation project job.

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That's those are the coaches they get. They get the rejects,
that's what they get. That's who coaches. The Saints and
the Bears also typically get some nondescript defensive coordinator or
some reclamation project also, which Mike McCarthy would fall into
the reclamation project, having already failed at two coaching jobs.
But based on the clues I still maintain and it's

(09:56):
rather obvious here that the Bears are in the catbirds seat,
or Mike McCarthy, and he haunted, haunted the Chicago Bears
as a poltergeist while he was coaching at lambeau Field
for the Green Bay Packers. And now he can work
as an enemy combatant inside the walls of Hallis Hall

(10:19):
and still haunt Chicago by doing a incompetent job. All right,
turning the page, final point Eagles coaching Nick Sirianni on
the war path. What is he upset about is the
Eagles get ready to play the Rams in the divisional
round this weekend. Well. Nick Sirianni blasting what he called

(10:39):
quote lazy, lazy critics and the criticism of disgruntled wide
receiver A. J. Brown AJ Brown who decided to multitask
not only play in an NFL playoff game, but read
a nice book on the sidelines, and media pundits pointing

(11:01):
out the issue that the reason Brown did that was
because he was not happy and he was trying to
get his emotions in check. And so what he did
was he grabbed the book and made a spectacle of
the situation. What is your school of thought on? Nick
Sirianni blasting what he calls the lazy criticism of AJ
Brown being disgruntled by reading a book. So on this one,

(11:25):
Nick Siriani has his Star Trek deflector shields going and
he's guarding against all of that space debris and those
enemy attacks. AJ Brown. Just watching that game against the Packers,
AJ Brown, he had the body language of a disgruntled person,
and we know he's a guy that needs the spot.

(11:48):
Like a walk a tight rope with a guy like
AJ Brown, he was not getting the ball up to
his standard. He was not on the same wavelength with
his quarterback Jalen Hurds. So he pulled out a book,
a book to calm his anxiety, if you will, And
it was one of those self help type books where

(12:10):
they give you positivity and all that. But this is
a uniquely Philadelphia experience, and I might be missing it
if I am, let me know. I don't recall other
teams allowing props on the sidelines like this, Like nobody
else in the NFL is pulling out a book to
read on the sidelines, like it's not happening. I don't

(12:31):
recall it happening. There have been guys that have eaten
food on the sidelines or but Nick Siriani, Nick Sirianni said,
he supports his guys in Philly doing whatever they need
to do, whatever they need to do on the sidelines
to put their mind in a place where they can compete.
So how far here's the question, how far are you

(12:51):
willing to push the envelope? If Jalen Hurts. Let's say
Jalen Hurts wanted to warm up. It's kind of cold
in Philadelphia, and he wanted to take some of that
trash and start a bonfire. But he needs it, because
let's be honest with you, this is how he has
to get his mind in the right place to compete.
He's like pyromaniac. Jalen Hurts. He needs fire, so he

(13:13):
wanted to start a bonfire, but it would only be
on the bench. It wouldn't be anywhere else. It would
be controlled burn on the bench. Would Syrianna be okay
with that? What if Sequon Barkley said, I was in
the band when I was in junior high school and
I like the tuba, so I would like to play
the tuba on the sidelines during the game. Is the

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coach okay with that? If I can play the tuba? No,
now we know that Nick Sirianni very competitive. Remember when
he famously played rock paper scissors with NFL draft hopefuls.
That's allowed, right, What if they just stop the game,
said time out, Eagles, and we're going to have a
couple of our guys go out to the fifty yard
line and they'll do a quick game of rock paper scissors. Yeah,

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all right. I'm just just asking, like, where do you
draw the line? Is there a line to be drawn?
But whether you have a problem with what Aj Browner
did or not, I don't kind of roll my eyes
like how can you really have a big problem with it?
But it's it is unique. As I said, A, it's unique,
and B it's obviously something that was done to make
everyone look at him. He knows the cameras are always

(14:17):
on in a playoff game and all the singing and
all the dancing and look at me and all that
stuff because he was not happy. If he was happy,
he wouldn't have needed to read the book. Kind of obvious,
self explanatory, I would say, at this particular point, it
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Do you need shopping advice? Says here in the copy
financial advice. And now back to big mouth Benny. Now, Bill,
I'm again, I'm not a big mouth. I'm not. Later
this hour, rating Minnesota, we'll get to that. We'll have
the Insta trivia coming up. Also, Mallard to the third degree,

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if you're with us next hour, too much or not enough?
The Queen of Hearts Mallard, Riddle of the Day. All
that coming your way next hour. Exciting, exciting, exciting, exciting.
Milkman Mike in Colorado's this great second hour monologue about
the dissatisfaction of touches by A. J. Brown. What really
upset him was they had rock paper scissors to see

(16:59):
who would get the ball each play, and he lost
most of the time. It's very unfortunate, very unfortunate. Stevie
Meatball says, excellent work by Mike McCarthy, playing one owner
against the other owner, and the fat guy ends up
cashing a free first class meal ticket. As for table manners,

(17:20):
so probably for me. Yeah, I don't think he's already me. Look,
if the company's paying, you order the steak. That's the
general rule. If you're paying, you order an appetizer. But
if the company's paying, you order a nice steak. And
says Steve mebaul Is that McCarthy probably will show up
at the dinner with stains on his shirt from the

(17:42):
Chicago dog he pounded on the way to dinner. There
you go, says By the way, what's the over under
on what McCarthy weighs in twelve months after spending a
year in Chicago, if they they hire well part of
the deal, he could get that like a o zempic
or something like that. Maybe he'll get that. But there's
good food in Dallas and Texas, Texas barbecue and all

(18:04):
that he got pretty large. But that's the same type
of situation there in Chicago, and a true Bears fan,
this guy calls himself, he writes, and he says, I'd
rather bring back Matt Naggi or Treshman, uh, he says,
or whoever, rather than Mike McCarthy. So there's a real

(18:27):
Bears fan, true Chicago Bears fan wants nothing to do
with Mike McCarthy. What else do we have? King Rory says,
When Dog Bears named Mike McCarthy as their new head coach,
do you think he'll try to bring Aaron Rodgers and
DeVante Adams to Chicago as well? Why not? What the heck?
Reunite the band? No problem? Bench Caleb Williams, Now, that

(18:50):
would be a bull move. That would be outside the
box thinking. Just Bench Caleb, women that we're good. I
don't think we need you anymore. I think we're okay.
All right, it is the Ben Mahler Show. Let's go
to the phones and we'll say hello to Jola in Dallas.
What's going on? Joela? Welcome, You're on the Ben Mahler

(19:12):
Show on Fox. Jola's gone all right. Uh, let's salo
to Andre in the Commonwealth. Hello, Andre, Ben, it's good
to be with you this evening.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
Uh, you know, started talking about the Steelers, moved around, Uh,
talked about it a lot. But look, Ben, Mike, Mike
Tomlin is sitting. He's like the Golden child with this
job with with Pittsburgh. All he has to do is
be over five hundred. You know, he gets up. He's
a philosopher. King, you know gets on, you know, talking
about the standard is the standard, and I'm gonna deal

(19:46):
with it until I can replace it. Uh, you know,
and he has the job. You know, it's almost like
he's ten years right, you know, the exact opposite of
what we're seeing elsewhere, you know, in the world where
you know, what do you got? You know, one year
one year, you don't get the ship going on in
the right direction. There's the soap opera stuff going on
behind the scenes. I'm talking about, of course, what's happened
here in New England, you know, and you're you're out

(20:08):
of there.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
So this idea of Mike.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Tomlin being traded or essentially giving up his no trade
clause because he's again, like I said, shout out to
the ausesome eighties, the Golden Child. All right, it's it's coponder,
it's preposterous. Sponsors is the word that I'm looking for.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
All right.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
But here's the thing, Okay, Steelers for all of that,
like loyalty, they're not going anywhere fast. I mean like
they're not winning a Super Bowl in the next two decades.
Then you look at the aft in the quarterbacks too, you.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Are hold on soon. Now that's a big andre. You're
saying right now the next twenty years the Steelers, We're
gonna be sitting here in twenty forty five and no
championships with the Pittsburgh Steels next twenty years. Nothing.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
We had a lot of hot take Ben the New
York Knicks under the leadership of Tom Thabodeau, my coach.
It's been fifty years and they had Riley as a coach,
and they had different championship win Yeah, but the twenty year.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Nicks, the Knicks like they were, They've had some really
terrible years and they really were only good for a
few years in the seventies. You know, you know what
I'm saying. It's not like early It's not like they
were consistently good for twenty thirty years. The Steelers were
good from the seventies up until the early two thousands.
They had mostly good teams.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
My point with that has been, first of all, quarterbacks
in the AFC, just forget about it. Mahomes going nowhere,
Lamar Josh Allen. They're ascending. But beyond that, I'm thinking
to myself, one of the Pittsburgh Steelers going to draft
Patrick Mahomes, When are they going to get that transcendent
player that you know that Terry Broke, you know what
I mean. I just don't the way that they do it.

(21:42):
I respect that they have the loyalty and there the
steel City, but they're just you know, having a hard
working blue college team. It's almost like the Miami Heat.
We credit them with getting to the finals, but they're
not going to win another championship until they secure a
Lebron James or Dwayne which I don't know when the
Steelers are going to get a superstar player with the

(22:03):
way that they do it to power them to a championship, right,
But I'll.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Play Devil's advocate. Why not, I'll advocate for the devil.
There are the Flukes. There's the Nick Foles who's not
very good but plays well for a month, Joe Flacco
who's not very good that plays well for a month
and you win a super Bowl. So that's that's the
counter argument is that you can have Eli Manning, you know,
a suckbag quarterback like Eli Manning. A couple of weird
things happen two years, he wins two super Bowls. He's

(22:29):
not that good. We all agree on that, but those
type of things happen, right, Those those weird You don't
want to bet on those things, but those things do
take place. But you can't have those happen if you
don't make the playoffs. And so Mike Tomlin remember his
mantra there. He wants the fans to be fat and sassy.
That's that's all he cares about. You gotta be fat
and saasy. That's it.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
Look it.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
Maybe I don't want to but franchises under the bus.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
But we're in New England.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
And when you see one dynasty the sunset on one die,
you know it's going to be a long time coming
before you get back there. Pittsburgh again, as much respect,
but if you're gonna be if they're gonna live in
the twentieth century, I just don't see any Super Bowls
on the horizon, you know, any anytime suits Thanks to
Nicole Ben.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
There there's andre fat and sassy and spoiled. It is
our job. Yeah, Mike Tomlin has had so many great quotes.
I want I am fundamentally against comfort. That was a
great quote by Mike Tomlin. And there's there's a bunch
of the fat, the fat and sassy ones like Top three.
That's top three. But there's a there's a billion of

(23:34):
those things. You get your mojo back, all that nonsense.
We'll get our mojo back right now. We're going to
say hello to Angry Bill. I I thought Angry Bill
was arrested for stalking Caitlin Clark, but apparently not. Hello
Angry Bill.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
Yeah, hm hmm.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Things go to make you go hmmm.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
Still here, Ben, Thank god, thank god.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
I'm a little very late on inference.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
This Minnesota coach, how did he know by the end
of the first quarter his team was going down the tubes?
He can't see that as a coach. That guy he
was writing a book on how to clots on him
running running plays seven minutes left in a game. The
guy the guy's observed, I don't know what I thought.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
It was great. I have no problem with that. I
I'd like to see the Eagles do the same thing
this weekend. I think that's good. Coach, you run the
clock out, the rams out, it's way to go.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
No, But you see, as a coach, you gotta look
ahead in the game. End of the first quarter, he's
got to change quarterbacks. That guy. Every pass he threw
was either high and away, low and short, whatever it
was to get the loan passes. He couldn't throw a
ten order yeah, weak.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Yeah, I know you like that. You like to brag
about your your high I Q angry though, But who
couldn't have seen that coming? I mean, and we all
knew that in the ends. That's that's the real Sam Darnold,
that's who that is. He sucks and he played like
it in the end.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
That's not really the point of the subject.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
He was.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
He was having his problem you get rid of, you
take him out and putting on the man. Maybe maybe
he didn't take a good dump before the game. Maybe
something happened.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Yeah, he's probably he was probably constipated or something like that.
He didn't need enough, he didn't need enough fiber. Yeah,
that makes sense. That's a good that's a good take.

Speaker 4 (25:24):
The fires. I mean, it was ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
All right. So let me ask you this right now,
do you know who angry Bill the forty nine ers
backup or not the forty nine the Vikings backup quarterbacks?
You know who it is?

Speaker 4 (25:35):
Yeah, my great quarterback from the Giants shows.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
No, he was the emergency quarterback. Well, you know you
you called up to say to play the backup. You
don't even know who the backup was.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
It didn't matter. If it didn't matter for the Santa Claus,
it didn't matter.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
It was actually it was actually, uh, Ebernezer screwed. Your cousin,
Ebernezer screwed.

Speaker 4 (25:53):
You've got to change it. You got it, I mean,
come on you.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Nick Mullins, Nick Mullins, is the was the backup? Great,
Nick Mullins, Okay, what difference is it make?

Speaker 4 (26:03):
Was he gonna do any worse than the guy that
was in there?

Speaker 1 (26:06):
It would have been a lateral move. Would have been a
lateral move. And somebody's gonna pay Sam donnal. Sam Donald's
gonna get he I'm telling you he's We all know
this is gonna happen again. But someone's gonna pay him,
and he'll get a Geno Smith type contract.

Speaker 4 (26:21):
Good, let him make his millions. I got no problem
or that I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
So angry Bill, Now we're worried about you. I got
several emails people worry you're gonna get arrested for stocking
Caitlin Clark. So try to keep your distance from Caitlin Clark.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
Please just see you know, on Monday morning, shooters, Red
Pennies Monday. Alright, Monday morning, Red guy.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
I guess I can't get rid of you, all right?
That area is angry Bill, unbelievable button, a little slow.
They're a little slow on the button. That's fine. Some
good tater tots though, Okay, all right? So a rating Minnesota,
rady Minnesota, the Vikings ending their season as they did
a belly whopper at the end of the year, and

(27:04):
now could they have their coaching staff rated by the Jets?
Say what? Yes? Are the Jets trying to commandeer a
number of Minnesota big shots. We're hearing some chatter out
of the Big Apple that the Vikings are considering or
the Jets rather considering hiring a Viking executive, the vice

(27:29):
president of player personnel, someone named Ryan Grigson, that the
Jets are going to hire this guy from the Vikings
as their general manager. I don't know who that is.
Then defensive coordinator Brian Flores, who is suing the NFL,
would be their head coach. He's from New York, and
quarterbacks coach Josh McCown would be the offensive coordinator. In

(27:57):
the plot thickens. The plot thickens. I maintain my position
that as long as there's an active lawsuit by Brian
Flores against the NFL, he will not get a head
coaching job. Now, he did get a defensive coordinator's job.
I didn't think he would get that either, But I
am maintaining my position. Now, if he agreed to drop
the lawsuit, then they would play ball and he could

(28:18):
become the coach of the Jets and all that. But
in my professional career, I've known people that have sued
companies and whatnot. And you can sue whoever you want
to sue, but getting employment in that line of work
for that company ever. Again, in the NFL, even though
they say there's a bunch of individual businesses, it's under
the same umbrella. It's like if you work at McDonald's

(28:42):
or own a McDonald's, you still have to answer to corporate.
If you own an NFL team, you have to answer
to the other members of the cartel, which are all
under the same NFL umbrella. You see how that works. Yet,
all right, let's go. The phones will say hello to Steve,

(29:02):
who is in Wichita? What's going on? Steve? Welcome?

Speaker 5 (29:06):
Hey, Hey, it's Wow Castivating radio. Hey Man, Brian Flores
is clearly the best choice for any coaching position. He's
proved it. Integrity matters, and it was a matter of

(29:26):
integrity that he in the What he told on was
an owner telling him, as a leader of men, he
needed to try to lose, and he needed to tell
the people he was leading they needed to try to lose.
And in spite of that, he was able to get

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those to get that team to win.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
I mean, what you're saying, he Steve, Now, what you
say is absolutely correct and makes you unemployable. Both those
things are simultaneously true. So yeah, he did the right
thing right, But in the real world, uh, if you
if you do that, you are seen as untrust trustworthy,

(30:11):
and that's it. You're you're not employable.

Speaker 5 (30:15):
We'll just see, because somebody is going to hire him
and they're going to be successful.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Yeah, he's suing the company though. Who hires an employee
for the most important position on the coaching staff? Who's
suing the company? Do you understand? Like, I don't know,
what do you do?

Speaker 3 (30:30):
What kind of what kind of work?

Speaker 1 (30:32):
What kind of work do you do?

Speaker 5 (30:34):
I'm retired?

Speaker 1 (30:36):
You retired?

Speaker 4 (30:36):
I mean.

Speaker 5 (30:38):
Sector. I've worked in the public sector, so I actually
worked with people who but you know, it's a public sector.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
I worked. I worked in radio, so I I I
know people that have sued radio companies. Some I've worked for,
some I haven't worked for, and some of them won
giant settlements. I have a good friend of mine who
are one of my favorite people in radio. Years ago.
He won a giant settlement and he has been unable
to find employment in radio because I would agree.

Speaker 5 (31:05):
With you that when he gets to be a head coach,
he probably could find a way to make that go away.
I don't disagree right well, if that happens. Lawsuit was
about them not hiring him.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Yeah, no, if he's willing to drop the loss, I
think he will get a head coaching job. I don't know.
I mean, these things see the issue, As you know, Steve,
these things take forever to go through the court system,
so they'll have delays. Missing is going to go on
years and years and years and years and years. So
it's like, are you willing to are you willing to
play the long game?

Speaker 5 (31:40):
I think if he's willing, I mean, if someone's going
to hire him as a head coach, he's going to
be willing to set aside the lawsuit that he had
because they literally wouldn't hire him once this once he
told on this owner who wanted him to lose, and
the NFL pi this owner a lot for what he did, Rightick, No,

(32:05):
a first round draft picks real, Like a first round
draft pick ain't real. And money money is not real
to him.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
They don't care about that, trust me. They're about it costing. Well,
they can pretend they care. They Yeah, they pretend about
a lot of things.

Speaker 5 (32:22):
I get to think if you look at him, you
know the guy who's gonna be able to be successful
at the job because he kind has already done it.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
And then as a he was, he was not. It's uh,
Flores was not overly successful. I mean he was like, yeah,
like a five hundred coach with the Dolphins or whatever
took over He took over a bad team. He was
great because they over they overachieved in the in the
sense from the gambling world. They were big underdogs a lot,
as I remember, and he was very good at covering

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the spread for those that bet on those games and
all that. So where have you been, Steve? It's it's
been a minute, Like what happened? You fell uh, fell
off the face of the earth.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
There.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
You can't sleep tonight? Like, what's going on with you?

Speaker 5 (33:04):
I mean, I you know, I I mean this says
I've been on I mean the call has been going
fifty four minutes, so I mean I've just been waiting.
You know, I came home.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
No, I don't mean tonight. I mean like you are
all I got to thank you? All right, there's a
Steve in Wichard. I don't think you understood what I
meant by that. He definitely remembers waiting though. Yeah, he's
looking at the phone. It's probably screaming for fanity my name.
I not forced to stay out home if you don't
want to trust me, nobody has to stay out hold.
Everyone on hold can hang up right now. I don't care.
I got plenty of stuff to talk about. You want
to be on the air, You're gonna have to be

(33:36):
on hold for a little while. That's how it works.
I mean, that's just the reality. I'm just explaining. The
the birds and the bees is what I'm explaining. Right
That's when I'm explaining something like that, we're gonna have
coming up in a few minutes. We're gonna have Mallard
to the third degree. Here's the insta trivia. Blank had
the lowest progression rate among all NFL quarterbacks frequently relying

(34:02):
on predetermined throws such as screen passes to wide receivers. Again,
Blank had the lowest progression rate among all NFL quarterbacks,
meaning that this particular person frequently relied on predetermined throws,
not adjusting, not adjusting to the defense, not reading the defense,

(34:24):
and reacting. Again, Blank had the lowest progression rate among
all NFL quarterbacks frequently relying on a predetermined throw such
as a wide receiver screen. That is the install trivia
the answer, and we're gonna have Mallard of the third degree.
We'll get to it. We'll do it next.

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with the show. And now we get back to big
Mouth Benny again, Bill again with the big mouth Benny
bad job. By your time. Now for the insta trivia.
Blank had the lowest progression rate among all NFL quarterbacks,
frequently depending on those predetermined throws such as a wide

(35:59):
reci screen, not reading and reacting to the defense. That
is the question, What is the answer? Let's see does
anyone in the Mala Militia know the answer? Robin Vegas
going with the greatest wrestling manager of all time, Bobby
the Brain Heenan as his answer. Who else do we have?
Paige dan Mel of Mel's diner from Milkman Mike and Colorado,

(36:22):
the d trained Dontrell Willis from Shane in Des Moines.
Who else? Page down Late Night Drug Tester says you
are Dove Cameron, who is twenty nine today? Trucker Joe
says Gary Coleman is the way to go legally blind.
Christopher says lions Great Gary Danielson, that's a random name.

(36:45):
Chuck Cecil, the legendary hard hitter from J T LWI
Man he was a head hunter. Nick in Wisconsin is
supposedly up late. He's going with Matt Hasselbeck is his answer.
Brian Sipe San Diego State legend from d J. Smith
and who else? Christopher in Kansas City says a Dodger legend.
Delino Deshields is the answer. Sir Francis Tarkington from Rob

(37:09):
in Minnesota, Arion Rogers guessed by Chip.

Speaker 4 (37:13):
And the Q.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Steve Grogan from that Boy Malcolm Mark in Santa Monica
going with the Notre Dame Leprechaun as his selection. Steve
Balmer Ballzy from Manuel in Guardina. That's his his answer.
All right, do you have an answer, Lorraine? Yes, Ben

(37:36):
I believe it is Bryce Young. Is it Bryce Young?
Is Bryce Young?

Speaker 4 (37:41):
No?

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Unfortunately it does not Bryce Young. Correct answer would be
tua tongue of bye Lola Miami dolphin to a tongue
of by LAWA here we all here to a third degree.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
This is one big Ben gets grilled.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Who oh.

Speaker 6 (38:04):
Saints GM Mickey Loomis said on Monday that they haven't
made a decision on Derek Carr's future with the team. However,
he went on to say, I have a high level
of confidence in Derek. He's done some really good things here.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Ben.

Speaker 6 (38:15):
Do you think the Saints keep him?

Speaker 1 (38:17):
No, because they're going to hire a new coach. Why
would the new coach want the trash that's left behind you?
When you buy a house from somebody, you don't take
all the crap that they leave in their house. You
get rid of it. You take it to a dump.
And yeah, he is Derek Carr. It would make no
sense to bring him back. A. He's not good. B
you're gonna have a new coach. Just do what the

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Broncos did, Draft some rookie quarterback and play him and
wish for the best. Next quarterback.

Speaker 6 (38:43):
Drew Aller announced that he will be returning to Penn
State for his senior season. Now, Ben, how much do
you think his poor performance at the Orange Bowl factored
into this decision?

Speaker 1 (38:51):
Well, first of all, it absolutely harpooned. It harpooned for
this year. Althowise he would have gone to the NFL Draft.
There are all these glorious stories about he was the
perfect prototypical quarterback that old school NFL people love. And
they were all excited about Drew Aller of Penn State
and this, that and the other thing. And it all
went away when he rode the vomit comet on national television.

(39:15):
All that goodwill, all that positivity went away against Notre Dame.
And so yeah, that's why he's going back. If he
had played well, even if Penn State had lost, he
played well, he would have gone to the NFL. There's
more money in the NFL. You want to get to
the NFL sooner if you're good, get that second contract next.

Speaker 6 (39:34):
Prior to this season, no rookie had ever led their
team in a game with no punts and no turnovers.
Jaydon Daniels has done it three times now. The praise
for Daniels this week has been effusive. Running former Redskins
linebacker London Fletcher said that he can go into Detroit
and upset the Lions. Ben, are you on the Daniels bandwagon?

Speaker 1 (39:53):
Well, London fle leccher, I believe is a broadcaster for
the team Formulaos of the Redsidens. I listen. Jadon Amson
been great. I love him and the Lions defense ain't
that good. There's a shot, not a great shot, but
there is. I'm not fully on the bandwagon. I'm halfway on.
How do we do cool? You pass? That's a pass, Lorena.
I got to pass, Lorena. Thank you, Lorena. Have some
more trader cause