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May 29, 2025 43 mins

Big Ben talks about the Thunder defeating a hapless Timberwolves team to advance to the NBA Finals, Caleb Williams commenting about wanting to play for the Vikings, Maller to the Third Degree, #AskBen, and more!

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Speaker 1 (00:37):
If you had the Timberwolves going to the NBA Finals,
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Speaker 3 (02:03):
So we're back at it.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
A big night of pro bouncy ball, unless it wasn't,
but that is our lead. We're gonna start out with
that and we'll work our way through some other pretty
good stories. There were there were some stories here that
I was like, baitings. This is a good day or
bad day. Pretty good day, not a bad day for
sports talk radio. So Anthony Edwards, this is not one
of the better stories. But Anthony play the hits. Mom

(02:26):
Man play that. So Anthony Edwards and the Timberwolves traveling
circus paying a visit for Game five OKC. The opponent
there trying to stay alive, stay alive against the thunder
and it was the last dance for Minnesota. They could
not win this game. They were going to be kicked
out of the playoffs. And if you didn't watch, consider

(02:49):
yourself lucky. The most valuable commodity that we have is
our time. We don't know how much we have. We
don't know when it's gonna come to an end. And
you didn't waste it watching this direk man. That was
die die diarrhea man?

Speaker 3 (03:04):
Was that bat? Now this is our good Mitch for today.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
So the star, the MVP of the NBA ex Clipper
Shay jogis Alexander thirty nine points, eight assists and seven
rebounds and a partridge in a pear tree as the
thunder have decommissioned, the timber Wolves that route get out here,

(03:26):
see you later and one twenty four to ninety four
beat down.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yea.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Love the scratching and claw mentality. Never give up, fight
to the end of Minnesota. You know that's really professional.
You're not gutless and you give up in the first
quarter that you go out there and.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
Fight, you go down fighting and really mad.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Props to Minnesota basketball for not being gutless cowards who
were down by thirty nine points and the game was
over at the end of the first quarter. What it
was over At the end of the first quarter, they
were down by thirty nine points at one point. Okay,
I got you fair enough, Okay, all right, fair enough.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
So the game started out promising.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Julius Randall hit a three ball after some clunkers, and
Minnesota had a three to nothing lead.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
That would be the last lead that they had.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
That would be it chet Holmgren, better known by his
nickname Skeletor, had twenty two points, seven rebounds, three blocks,
and Jalen Williams, the generically named player.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Imagine you get to the NBA. Your name's Jalen Williams.
You're like one of eighteen people named Jalen Williams in
the NBA.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Anyway, Jaylen Williams had nineteen points, eight rebounds, and the
thunder get her done. So now Oklahoma City will play
the Indiana Pacers or the New York Knickerbockers in the finals.
And if you really want to screw over Adam Silver,
if you believe in Shotenfreude, if you want to screw
over ESPN, you've got a hope that the Pacers win

(04:54):
and we get Indiana and Oklahoma City in the NBA Finals.
Because that is the doomsday prophecies for pro bouncy ball.
But plenty of time to give the thunder some flowers.
I'm sure there'll be plenty of people already giving them flowers.
The better story here, though, is in the losing locker room.
That is where the story is. And my goodness, my goodness.

(05:19):
All right, so let's discuss. Let's just cut out who
gets the blame, because we know who gets the blame.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
It's the headliner. The headliner gets the blame here.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
So how much damage now that it's over, how much
damage did this series do to the legend of Anthony
Edwards in Minnesota?

Speaker 3 (05:38):
Because remember the talk was, this is the new face
of the NBA.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
You know, he was talking about how big as D
was against the Lakers, and I'm not talking about defense,
you know, I'm bragging about the size of the anaconda.
And then he went out there and had a micro
anaconda in this particular series, in most of these games.
So my thoughts on this, I have soft underbelly, shrink
flation and speak easy, and we will combine all of

(06:04):
these things together and we are going to make the
Gabba goool. We're gonna make the gabba gooul is what
we're gonna do. So a let's cut out all the niceties.
Ant man is a basketball player, and he flopped. He
was exposed, not the leading man he was propped up
to be. Sorry, not sorry. He laid an egg in

(06:26):
this series, second consecutive year that this has happened. He
commandeered the vomit comet. He did the hype train went
off the tracks here and with all those comps, I'm
in everything from Michael Jordan to Kobe Bryant and Anthony Edwards.
We do the show tonight and right now tonight, Anthony
Edwards ain't him, not yet and possibly never and probably never.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
His soft underbelly exposed, exposed.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
I thought he had that killer instinct and he was
gonna he was gonna go down.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
You just not give up, And it just appears he
had given up.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
And the final stat line does not indicate how crappy
Anthony Edwards played as a headline two hundred million dollar
ball player in the NBA. There is no mamba mentality.
He has the mentality of a Koala bear that would
like to take a nap. That's the mentality Anthony Edwards
brings at least he brought it in this series. So

(07:23):
it's a case of false advertising. We thought he had
it and then he didn't have it, and if he
did have it, he lost it. Where'd he lose it?
Why do he lose it? You know it's not there.
And then the worst part is the lack of accountability.
It's like one thing to go out there and suck
and everyone knows you blow, and then you get on

(07:46):
the microphones and I'll go back to the other game,
Game four, where he said I don't look at it
like I struggled, And he also defended Julius Randall, who
was equally terrible. He said, they just had a good
game plan and they made us get off the ball. Okay,
I still can't get over he said that, like I know,
you know, you're just an old You're an old head. Okay,

(08:07):
maybe I am. I just can't imagine that that would
be your answer. I just that's a lot of hootspa,
that's a that's a lot of hoodsby all right, Well,
let's hear from Anthony Edwards.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Let's go to cut two on this, and here is
his explanation on what.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
His plans are after another another exit before getting to
the NBA Finals.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
Though they got to the final four, not enough. Here's
Edwards on his offseason plans. Nobody's gonna work harder to
me this summer, I'll tell you that much. So, yeah,
I'll try to make I'll try to make it happen
again for.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Mikeel So the good news is if you're a Timberwolf fan,
he's gonna work hard in the offseason now, working hard
in every game of the Western Finals. Too much, dass,
that's too much das, all right, I just my goodness.
So he was bad in Game five. The final numbers
were empty numbers. The game was over at the end of.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
The first quarter.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
And you know that's a two hundred million dollar guy.
The team's not playing well and and you're supposed to
keep the team from drowning, keep them within striking distance.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
That did not happen. Now turning the page.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
So after back to back Western Conference Finals, what is
next for the Timberwolves?

Speaker 3 (09:14):
What is next for this team? All right?

Speaker 1 (09:16):
So you look around here and I would advise you
to buckle up. If the grapevine is accurate, if the
rumor mill is accurate, here's what you can expect.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
You can expect shrink flation.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
All right, you'll pay the same, but you're gonna get
less bang for your basketball buck.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
The streets have been talking for some time.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
They've been chirping that the ownership group led by Alex Rodriguez,
the steroid cheat from baseball who made all that money
and now he owns a chunk of the timberwolsl is
really not the lead owner. It's some other guy we've
never heard of anyway, the A rod ownership group.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
The plan is to take.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
A carving knife like you would on Thanksgiving to a
turkey and start trimming away the meat on the turk.
So prepare the stuffing if you will. Penny penny rich,
dollar poor, I believe, is the phrase, the clinical phrase
for that. So you've got Anthony Edwards. Now in in
Hollywood they talk about the wagon wheel, and you've got

(10:16):
to have the star in the center of the wagon,
and then everything else.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
Around that is a spoke and the outer rim.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
You can replace all that stuff, and that's likely what's
going to happen here. That you have the centerpiece and
then you change the spokes up and you say, all right,
well these guys didn't get it done. So let's go
out and get some other flotsam and jetsam. We'll bring
some non achievers in on this side of the team,
and then I think the bench we can put some underachievers,
and so we'll mix equal parts non achiever and then

(10:46):
we'll have the underachiever and then we'll put them together
and then we'll see, we'll see what happens.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
You know.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
And Rudy Gobert, if you watch the game, I think
your eyes got more into the game than Rudy Gobert did.
Julius Randall numbered, he wouldn't got essentially plowing the ocean.
Plowing the ocean. I want to go back to Anthony
Edwards and just Minnesota in general. So the Timberwolves coach
mister Finch commenting on what the heck went wrong for

(11:13):
the Timberwolves here Andy he mentioned that the team collapsed.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Well, listen to him. Explained what happened, why they were
so bad here.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
We started trying to force it all, you know, individually,
one on one, and I think we had, you know,
a bunch of turnovers in that next phase of the
first quarter. Obviously got the crowd into it, that them going,
and then just you know, I just struggled to find
a rhythm. Everyone was kind of trying to do it
all by themselves. We lost our connectivity. But all credit
to the Thunder. They certainly deserved this. They played outstanding

(11:48):
and you know, we came up short in a lot
of ways.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Isn't that the coach's job to make sure that doesn't
happen to get the message out fight like the devil,
and they.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
Didn't fight like the devil.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Here's one more from the coach of the Timberwolves here
and discussing Anthony Edwards and the lessons learned.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
Take a listen. Apparently we do not have that shocking
all right?

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Well he said physicality that he was what he said,
all right, the last word here.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
So what is your level of excitement?

Speaker 1 (12:21):
What is your level of excitement for SGA and the
Thunder reaching the NBA Finals.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
They're here, They've arrived. Now.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
I am pleased for Kyrie and he's really the only
regular show contributor from Oklahoma City or that area that
is a Thunder fan. We've been on the air for many,
many years. I don't recall maybe one or two other
thunder fans that have actually called the show. There was
actually a guy that called a couple weeks back. But
other than that, it's slim pickens in these parts. So

(12:53):
now we have been told, just in the hours since
the Western Conference Finals ended, we have been told by
bas skiotball hardos that this OKC team is legit right,
they're built. They built it the right way, draft picks,
young talent, no super team garbage, none of that. And
it's the feel good basketball story for the small market NBA.

(13:17):
This is why they changed the salary cap and they
they made it like a kitchen with a bunch of
aprons so you could enjoy Oklahoma.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
City in the NBA Finals. It's so exciting, oh club City.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
So on the Malar scale of excitement, which is the
number one instrument that we use, we don't know.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
We don't know who they're going to play.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
We know the options, but let's just focus in on
Oklahoma City. So on the Malard scale of excitement, one
to ten, with ten being you're nine years old, you're
unwrapping presence on your birthday and you had a lot,
a lot of your buddies gave your presence.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
You got aunts, uncles, cousins, they all gave your prey.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
You're very happy. So that is the that's the ten.
So on a scale of one to ten, how excited
are you for Oklahoma City being in finals? I am
at a two. I am at a two, And the
only reason I'm at a two is because a member
of the Clipper Alumni Association has a chance to win
the championship.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
So I'm I'm happy for SGA. It's a it's a
win win.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
The Clipper's got Kawhi Leonard and the Thunder got SGA,
So win win there, and good luck to SGA in
the finals.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
That set. It is fair when you take a couple
of steps back and you look at this matchup and
we don't know who they're playing. We know it's either
Indiana or New York.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
But either way, if you look at it, despite the
MVP and all that, he's not the straw that stirs
the drink, right, and that part sucks.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
You might probably don't care. Yeah I don't care, Okay,
And that's right. I get it. Why would you care?
But in my position, I care.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
I do broadcasting, right, I do buy you it's more
fun and we when we get to these championship rounds,
like if you do a show like this, we have
people that jump on the train. They're like hobo. I
come Hobos, they jump on the train. They're they're the
casual fan. They're not like us. They're not hardcore fans,

(15:24):
and they want to be part of it. They want
to listen to a sports radio show late at night
because they want to have something they can talk to
their sporty friends about. And so it's you're bringing new
people in and it's it's a trickle down situation. Obviously,
the ratings are one thing. I don't work for the NBA.
I don't work for ESPN, so I don't really care
about that. But I'm sorry about my perspective. When you

(15:45):
do the broadcasting and you have a matchup where no
one gives a crap, it's narrow casting, right.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
So it's a niche situation here, it's a niche situation.
And we are headed to a speak easy NBA Finals.
This is they speak easy. You don't know the password.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
It's invitation only and outside of the hard os who
are always going to watch, and I'm in that camp,
my hand is raised.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
I'm a heart o. I will watch.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
But unless you've got some kind of bet, like a
Future's betover on DraftKings or something like that.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
You're not you're not going out of your way to watch.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
It's not gonna be a lot of buzz. There's not
gonna be a lot of excitement about this. And it's
really is a throwback. It is the worst. Assuming the
Knicks don't come back, they will, so it's a it's
the worst finals we've had since the tape delay era.
And when I when I started as a young lad,
I got into radio on as nineteen, but I started
covering the NBA. That was one of my first jobs

(16:42):
as a reporter radio. They call them a stringer, that
was the term in radio. And I recall covering the
the early days. You know, this is early days for me,
but this is like the early nineties, and the chatter
at the time was, oh, we were not that far
removed from the NBA Finals being on on tape delay
and it had only been like fifteen years or something

(17:04):
like that. And at that time, and you know that
they were not that far removed from playing three night,
three games and three nights, which if you did that now,
there would be a criminal case that would be taken
and Congress would be involved, and it would be oh,
my God, You're making someone work three days in a row. Holy,
and they have to fly commercial. I can't believe it.

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our lead this hour is from Chicago.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
We have some great audio we're gonna play here in
a minute, but.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
A follow up, follow up to the follow up, I said,
follow up to the follow up as we blatantly suck
up to Yafimi and the other listeners in Chicago.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
So remember the story.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
We talked about it several times in previous episodes of
the show. The Bears quarterback Caleb Williams, who was the
number one overall pick in the number back in twenty
twenty four. So Caleb Williams, it's pretty clear he wanted
to play for the Vikings.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
He had a crush on Kevin O'Connell.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
They had a combine interview and he had puppy dog.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
Guys for Kevin O'Connell.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
Now, his father, that's the father of Caleb Williams, spilled
the ta spilled it in Seth Wickersham's book It's an
investigative sports journalist, So Kayla, Will's dad just spill his
guts out right, spill his guts out, said that Williams

(19:48):
began to.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
Dream of what it would be like to play for
the Minnesota Vikings.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Now his dad was also at the same time plotting
to get an ownership stake in an NFL team for
his kid.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
No joke, right, So.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
The Bears new Golden Boy finally commented on all of
the crap that's been flying around. I keep in mind
Kayler Williams hid from the media for several days, chose
to not answer questions. He had skipped out on it
the whole story about asking for ownership and his love
of the Minnesota type minnesot writing. So if you didn't

(20:28):
hear what he had to say, possibly not, perhaps not,
Calee was We're gonna put some audio. It's a long clip.
I normally don't play long clips, but it's so cringe.
I want to play the whole clip that we have.
So Caleb Williams addressing the Viking.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
In the room, if you will, his love of.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
The purple people eaters, the Komodo dragon in Minnesota, and
we have the audio.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Again, it's a long clip.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
However, you gotta listen closely and try to take some
notes as you're listening.

Speaker 5 (20:57):
Here.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
If you kid, I know you're likely doing something, maybe
you're driving or whatever, but try to turn up the
audio a little bit and just listen because you're gonna
have to count along here. But here's Caleb Williams answering
questions about what happened before that draft takes all.

Speaker 5 (21:12):
That went down, all that was said, Yeah, I had
a I had a I had a good visit uh
at at at the other place Minnesota with Ken O'Connell,
good staff and all of that. Obviously, uh he just
won Coach of the Year award and things like that.
So obviously good staff and things like that. But something
that keeps getting lost, something that keeps getting I think

(21:35):
not being addressed the way it needs to be is
the fact that you know, I went on that visit,
first came here, and then after I came here, it
was a it was a I went back home, talked
to my dad.

Speaker 6 (21:48):
And you know, all of the things that were supposed
to be, these big things that everybody's been talking about recently,
one never happened in the sense.

Speaker 5 (21:59):
Of they were all thoughts, they were all ideas. And
I think if you're in the situation, I think if
your son or or or or daughter, anybody is in
the situation to be in that position, I think you
think about all of the options, and you know and
and and you look at it. The history and the
facts and all these different things. And you know those
are thoughts that they go throughout your head in no situations,

(22:21):
So you know, all of those are thoughts. And then
after I came to my visit here, it was a
it was a deliberate answer and and deliberate and determined
answer that I had us that I wanted to come here.
And just like Ben spoke about.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
Okay, I kept going on on and on and on
and on. All right, So the the plan as you
heard there, there were several things that stood out, But well,
I guess why don't we break it down like this,
We'll discuss what we just heard.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
That's Caleb Williams. So what did stand out to you?

Speaker 1 (22:56):
What stood out to you that sound bit rather lengthy
of the Bear quarterback Kayla Williams, his comments about wanting
to play for the Vikings and the whole ownership state
thing and all that. So I'll go first because I've
got the mic, so my observations, I've got the Federal
Bureau of Investigations boundaries and dating game, and we will

(23:19):
put all of these things together and we're gonna make
some deep dish pizza. And if you don't want that
we'll give you an Italian beef sandwich, and then for dessert,
we're gonna have that shaved ice and if you don't
want that, we'll have.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
The brownies, which I think were invented in Chicago. The brownie.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
All right, so number wa, I said, number WA.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
But this was this was a hot mess.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
That was my first thought. I jotted that down on
my notes Apple for that's a hot mess. That was
poorly done. They had a lot of time, they knew
what was coming, they knew this line of questioning was coming,
and it appeared that Caleb Williams had done no prep,
that he was coerced into doing it. And we played

(24:05):
the audio because it was so bad it was good.
The audio was so bad it was good. Caleb stumbling
and bumbling as.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
He tried to articulate. He's really well spoken. Unless he's not.
That's that's the red flag. Now.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
One of the things, one of the things you look
for in audio content is roadside bombs.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
We call them. They're ums and uzz ums and us
our problem.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
So that sound bite we wrote down eighty five seconds,
one minute, twenty five seconds, was the sound bite Caleb
Williams the face of the Chicago Bears said um or ah?

Speaker 3 (24:49):
How many times better?

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yet, what percentage of that was um and awe? Survey
says thirty two point nine percent of that SoundBite was
Caleb Williams saying um or uh?

Speaker 3 (25:12):
Oh great?

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Is that that's the face of the Chicago Bears. Twenty
eight times in eighty five seconds Caleb Williams said um
or uh And those are conversation managers. That is a
sign when you say um and awe, you're announcing you're
having trouble communicating.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
Every once in a while. It's fine, we all say
it every once in a while.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
However, in a one minute, twenty five second sound clip,
when you say it thirty two point nine percent of
the time, we got a problem.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
We have a problem. The word um and awe.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Is where you put something while you're trying to find
what you really want to say, trying to remember a
talking point memo that you were told to repeat, a
piece of information that you're supposed to pair it to
the media, which leads us to the Federal Bureau of Investigations,
a book that I have referenced many times over the years,

(26:10):
how to spot lies like the FBI.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
It's a book that tells you about body language clues.
Caleb Williams. You can't see what we played because it's
audio only. However, it is available. Caleb Williams.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
His eyes were darting back and forth. That is a
sign dead give what It is a sign when your
eyes are going back and forth that you feel uncomfortable.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
Uncomfortable? Could it be because you're lying?

Speaker 1 (26:39):
Also, there was a little bit of face touching there,
a little bit of an itch type situation. That's normally
what happens when you're not telling the truth if you
look up to the right. Caleb Williams did look up
to the right. Right handed people usually look up to
the right when they're inventing an answer. And then these
are all the dead giveaway is that he was playing

(27:02):
fast and loose with the truth.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
But wait, there's war.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
So in that rather long sound by Caleb Williams downplayed
the chatter that his father wanted to get a bear's
ownership stake. He essentially dismissed it, saying that anyone who's
drafted would like to own part of an NFL team,
circumventing the NFL draft, which was on the table all together.

(27:28):
Caleb Williams's response was they were all thoughts, they were
all ideas.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
Both quote, what is your perspective on Caleb Williams downplaying
the idea, that what happened.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
Was just thoughts and ideas and there's nothing here.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
The new again Golden Boy of the Chicago Bears, the
Great Messiah, the Great Savior, finally commenting on all of
this stuff. And that's what he said, right, the timeless
words of an old radio man back in the day.
Everything begins with an idea. Everything good and bad an idea.

(28:08):
Somebody had an idea. Whatever you think's cool started with
an idea. If you're into AI, hey, people like it.
It started with an idea. If you enjoy a good
nuclear bomb, that was an idea. This was a calculated
media push. It was not well done. It was sloppy.

(28:29):
But I'm talking about prior to the draft, when they
were working and trying to get Caleb Williams to get
an ownership stake. They wanted to test the boundaries and
see how far the Caleb Williams hype train could take them.
These were not just random thoughts in the shower while
you're putting shampool on your head.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
This was serious noise.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Prior to the draft, people were saying that he was
gonna pull an Eli Manning, Elijah the Punk, and even worse,
just forget the draft altogether.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Again, testing boundaries, testing boundaries. We become what we think.
We become what we think. Every one of us, You me, everyone,
We are the sum total of our thoughts.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
So Caleb Williams's dad contacted some lawyers, gave them a
couple of bucks, and they determined, after reading the contract,
the union contract between the players and the NFL, that
they could not could not get.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
A piece of the team. You see, the problem is you.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Can't own part of a team while you're playing for
the team.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
It's not how the NFL works.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Classic case of the modern star athlete who's had their
toes licked going back to high school, thinking they are
a corporation before they have done anything. Kila Williams is
a failure as an NFL quarterback.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
The one accomplishment that he has is the king of
all sacks. So congratulations for the modern times. All right.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
Final point to Green Bay the frozen Tundra. The draft
which was held way back a month ago, shortly after
the Packers selected Matthew Golden. It's great name, it's a
solid name, wide receiver Matthew Golden out of Texas with
the number twenty two pick in the very first round

(30:30):
of the draft, which does not happen.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
The Packers do not normally do this. So Jaden Reid,
who's also a wide receiver, he's been around for a
couple of years.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
His agent, Drew Rosenhaus, reached out to the chiefs head
brass and said, we got to talk. We have to
have a conversation. We need to know a status update.
We need a status update now that you've drafted not
only Matthew Golden, but they took another receiver relatively high.

(31:01):
So he was asked about this his status, and he said, quote,
a lot of people were talking about Jayden Reid. He
said a lot of people misinterpreted that.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
He claimed at OTAs.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
So Jordan Reid says, people misinterpreted the rumor that his
agent contacted the Packers and he was assured of being
the wide receiver number one. So does any of that
make sense? Does any of that make sense? So this
is a trip to the fund zone is what is
hop on? The merry go round, Go round and round

(31:34):
and round, hop on the merry go round. He knows
this is a bad look. Every man, woman and child
knows this is a bad look. Even our friend in
Dallas with all our cats, the cats even know this
is a bad look. Why it's unbecoming if you need
someone to tell you that you're a wide receiver one

(31:55):
spoiler alert, you're not a wide receiver one.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
It's kind of like the dating game.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
If you're outdating and you have to ask where you
stand in a relationship, you're not that important.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
You're likely going to get ghosted, or maybe you've already
been ghosted.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
See you think justin Jefferson in Minnesota has to contact
the Viking Brass and say, am I the number one receiver?

Speaker 3 (32:19):
Am I still the number one option? Is a rhetorical question.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Obviously, Green Bay has not had a true top receiver
since they said bye bye to Devonte Adams and traded
his ass to the Raiders so he could be a
bust in Vegas and now he's on the Rams. But
Jaden Reid, who has led the Packers in receiving yards
each of the past two seasons, and yet they still

(32:45):
decided they had to get other people.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
They had to.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Use a first round pick to fill that hole, which
tells you everything you need to know.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
Follow the breadcrumbs, follow the draft picks.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
If you were very happy with you wouldn't have gone
out and added another player at that position. That's just
how this works' that's a simple equation on how this
all breaks down.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
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Speaker 3 (33:18):
It's Mallard. How about that?

Speaker 2 (33:20):
To the third degree, this is one big Ben gets grilled?

Speaker 3 (33:26):
All right?

Speaker 5 (33:26):
Cool?

Speaker 7 (33:27):
Before Game four between the Knicks and the Pacers, Charles
Barkley said, Hey, ESPN, I love you guys. Don't try
to make Anthony Edwards the face of the NBA. He
went on to say that the face of the NBA
is Sga, Nikola, jokicch and Jannas and Tetokumpo Ben. Who
do you think is the face of the NBA or
does one even exist?

Speaker 1 (33:47):
It's still Steph Curry and Lebron James until they retire.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
That's just the way it is.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
And the problem with SGA is the Q the QR,
the Q rating, and the higher the Q score or
the more highly regarded you are, and he just doesn't
have it.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
There's not enough of that. He said, Well, it's one
of these things.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
They have to promote him more. It's just not really working.
He's a good player, is great, but he won the
MVP and all that. He's just to be the face
of the NBA. You got to move the needle, and
SGA at this point, even in the NBA Finals now
does not move the needle. So it's still Lebron and
it's still Steph Cray next.

Speaker 7 (34:28):
Chris Paul is now forty years old, just completed his
twentieth season in the NBA. He's also an unrestricted free
agent and not expected to return to San Antonio. But
do you think they're still demand for CP three.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
He's no longer America's sweetheart. But he will get a job.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
He's the dramatic the history of I don't know why
he wants to keep playing. He's made enough money, but
he's I guess he's got.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
Nothing else to do.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
Yeah, he'll find a job, but it's not gonna be
on a glamour He'll be a backup to the backup.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
Next.

Speaker 7 (34:52):
Be Atani leaves baseball with home runs and he's led
the AL and he's led the NL, but he's never
led baseball. You gonna put your money on him to
lead MLB in home runs?

Speaker 1 (35:02):
No, Aaron Jodge is gonna lead baseball and home runs,
not Otani.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
And that's just the way it is. But if they
won the World Series, all it matters. How do we
do pass this edition? That is a quarter of.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
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Speaker 3 (35:30):
It's now time for time for Horry. Horry Harry Wait,
ask bad Twitter, Send us your questions on Twitter now
and it is asked Ben. Your questions are answered for
the rest of the hour. What do we have here?

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Cool?

Speaker 7 (35:45):
We're gonna start off with a question from a Manuel
in Guardina. He wants to know, Ben, will you be
smuggling back any maple syrup or Canadian bacon in Coop's suitcase?
And will the Raina be buying a lumberjack bikini or
Canadian tuxedo bikini?

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Well, stay tuned, there'll be some surprises at the Malor
Meet and greet tonight.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
We're excited to.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
We can't announce what that is, but you'll you'll want
to see some of the photographs of that. My plan
is to just take an extra bag and fill it
with those little cheese snacks they have.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
They're much better than what we have here in the US.
And whatever I find, we'll see it's some cheesy Canadian souvenirs.
And what about you, Lorna?

Speaker 8 (36:28):
You got me thinking about a Canadian tuxedo bathing suit,
that's for sure. I was thinking, you know, maybe a
moose tattoo.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
Yeah, it'd be good to commemorate. O man, what about you, Coop?

Speaker 7 (36:41):
Uh, I'm gonna I guess maple syrup does sound good?
Are we in the right area of I mean it
is all of well, I mean it's known as.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
A Canadian but yeah, like romont it which is in
the US. And then above that is where the.

Speaker 7 (36:57):
Gotcha got just so, yes, I don't know if I'm
going to be bringing back mape syrup, but you know
I'll be bringing back something.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
Okay, what is next? Here to ask? Ben? Your questions
are answered?

Speaker 7 (37:07):
Ryan and Maine would like to know Ryan mayo or
butter on your lobster roll?

Speaker 3 (37:14):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (37:15):
Well, I Butter would be I don't know lobster roles,
but I'd go Butter, what about.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
You have a rain?

Speaker 9 (37:20):
No, I gotta do, butter, baby, not that.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
I don't believe in seafood. How about you?

Speaker 9 (37:25):
Butter's the only answer.

Speaker 7 (37:26):
The Connecticut lobster role, I believe that is Connecticut.

Speaker 9 (37:32):
Yeah, the mayo is a main lobster role.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
I think, Oh, you just ripped the people to Maine. Okay,
that's they love the lobster. You go to Portland, Maine.
Every gift shop has a lapse this shirt? All right,
what's next?

Speaker 3 (37:43):
What do we have?

Speaker 9 (37:44):
All right?

Speaker 2 (37:45):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (37:46):
Ask Ben, Your questions are answered.

Speaker 9 (37:48):
Ferg Dog would like to know.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
Hi, Fergie.

Speaker 7 (37:51):
Have you ever t peed or egged anyone's house? Or
had it done to you?

Speaker 3 (37:57):
Yes, both accounts.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
When I was growing I lived in a community that
had nothing, but like Orange Groves, we had a lot
of free time on our hands. There was no internet,
and there was a lot of toilet.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
Paper growing, and we used to go around.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
When I was in high school, we get random stuff
off the road, like the side of the road, like
those cones, and put it.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
On people's like homes, and we were trouble makings. What
about you rain up.

Speaker 8 (38:22):
I think it's funny that tepeeing is practically illegal now
after COVID. But yeah, because the toilet paper shortage. But no,
I never t pe at anyone's houses. We would do
tampons and forks.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
Well that's great want.

Speaker 8 (38:36):
Yeah, so you take plastic forks and you stab them
all throughout the front yard, and then you take tampons
and you throw them all over the place. And it
would be on a rainy day too, we would do
what it was raining.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
Oh those were good to pick up, super fun, Okay, cool.

Speaker 9 (38:52):
I was a good kid, so I did not do
that to anybody for it.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
But I did tell you there is something that cooper
if you throw a roll of toilet paper and at
the right angle as it's flying through the air, the
trail of the toilet paper.

Speaker 7 (39:06):
Yeah, I could see that being gratifying. I did have
my car egged though, shortly after high school. That sucks
because it scratches your paint.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
The problem is you've got to get rid of that
right away if you leave, if you don't know about it,
and the eggs.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
On the car for a while, yeah, yeah, you're really
you're screwing. It's asked Ben. Your questions are answers.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
For the rest of the hour hashtag ask Ben. If
you like this bit, we do it every week at
this time. If you don't like the bit, we only
do it once once a week.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
So who cares. That's it all right? What's next?

Speaker 7 (39:41):
Donkey Sausage has a question from twenty fifteen. Hi Donkey,
he would like to know do you have cable or
satellite TV?

Speaker 1 (39:50):
Well, yeah, yeah, none of mean, Bob, I haven't had
cable or satellite television in years. I'm able to watch
everything I need on the interweb, in the stream.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
Being in other places. So yeah, no, it's been been
a long time.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
And I would have kept I had direct TV and
I loved Date and I would have kept it. They
just kept raising the price, and I was like, I
could buy a car. I could pay for a car
every month, or get to I mean, why would I
do that? I mean, I like TV, but it's so
stupid with all the channels.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
I need to get to watch the games. What about you, Lorraine?

Speaker 8 (40:23):
Yeah, no, I only have Netflix.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
You don't pay for any other screaming ships.

Speaker 8 (40:28):
No, I'm very cheap and I don't think watching TV
is worth my money?

Speaker 3 (40:32):
Yeah? What about radio?

Speaker 8 (40:34):
I love radio. I listened to radio all the time,
even on my drives home.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
Okay almost in the car. What about you?

Speaker 5 (40:42):
Cool?

Speaker 7 (40:42):
I too used to have direct TV, but when they
lost NFL Sunday Ticket, there was no reason for me
to stick around. No, so now I pay almost as
much as I did for direct TV, paying for fifteen
different uh streaming streaming services. And I also have a
Spectrum TV. It's like the internet streaming plan because that's

(41:06):
the only way I can watch like the Angels and
and the Lakers.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
And there are some other ways you might be able
to do that.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
Yeah, what is what is next year?

Speaker 7 (41:16):
Georgia boy would like to know. Hi, Georgia Boy, what
is the strangest thing that you've eaten?

Speaker 9 (41:21):
Deep fried?

Speaker 1 (41:22):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (41:23):
I like this question.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
I don't. I don't by accident.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
And there were some things I hate that got you
know how you get the fries and there's other stuff
in there, like so it'd be like zucchini or some
other random vegetables delicious, something like nothing intentionally.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
I guess some kind of weird fried seafood I ate
one time. I don't know what kind of seafood. It
was because it was fried. But I don't like seafood,
so something like that. What about you, Lorraine, it's got.

Speaker 8 (41:54):
To be like a fried Oreo from the Fairy?

Speaker 3 (41:57):
Does that really count?

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Though?

Speaker 9 (41:58):
That's good, that's like I mean, yeah, but I mean
it's strange. Yeah, something I would normally deprice.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
Strange though, because that's every fair I've ever been to.

Speaker 9 (42:06):
I guess something.

Speaker 8 (42:08):
Yeah, but that used to be a new concoction.

Speaker 7 (42:11):
You're right, you're right, those are those are kind of
standard now though fifteen years ago.

Speaker 8 (42:14):
That doesn't make them any less weird.

Speaker 9 (42:16):
No, Now you got to step it up and not
just gotta be like fried.

Speaker 8 (42:19):
Like candy fried cotton.

Speaker 7 (42:21):
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, coop uh Alligator, Florida, Louisiana.
It was a cruise leaving from Florida, so so kind
of yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
I got you.

Speaker 9 (42:37):
That was it was pretty good.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
All right.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
What's what's next? Year? It's it's asked, Ben, your questions
are answered.

Speaker 7 (42:43):
I'm gonna I'm gonna ask another one from Donkey Sausage.
He wants to know do you still watch DVD or
Blu Ray DVDs?

Speaker 1 (42:52):
No, I have not watched a DVD. Or Blu Ray
DVD in probably ten years. What about you, Lorraino, I have.

Speaker 8 (42:59):
Yeah, there's a since I don't have the other streaming services.
I watched a lot of Disney movies on DVD and
Blu Ray at the house.

Speaker 7 (43:06):
Oh boy, it's probably been about ten years for me.
But I just I still have a drawer filled with
DVDs and Blu Rays and all that.

Speaker 9 (43:15):
I just haven't touched it in ten years.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
Order.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
Yeah, well cool. At least no pop up commercials when
you watch a DVD. That's a good thing.

Speaker 9 (43:24):
Hey, pop ups
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