June 7, 2025 • 39 mins
Big Ben talks about reports that the Toronto Raptors and Giannis Antetokounmpo have a 'mutual interest' and that Toronto should go all-in to get him, Tom Thibodeau getting fired as the Knicks coach and if he was done dirty in NY, Maller's Mountain of Money: Dana Carvey Edition, and more!
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our lead this hour, I was debating going with baseball.
We did that the other day and I got several
complaints with baseball.
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It's only June. I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Let me, my God didn't play million more than tapes,
So shut up. I wanna tell you about a sport
they're not even gonna play this. Well, there's a couple
of basketball games no one will be watching this week
starting on Thursday, but no games until late in the year,
late in the year. But our lead this hour is
from pro bouncy Ball. Pro bouncy Ball. Now, we got
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a bunch of downtime before the matchup with the Cornfield
versus the Soybean in the NBA Finals. Now, to fill
the void, we have cranked up the rumor machine. It
has been working over time and serving up some Greek food.
That's right, a little Greek food on that And if
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you have not been following, it's a bad job by you.
Some chatter that the Milwaukee Bucks superstar, the man that
held up the championship trophy a couple of years ago.
Giannis Adenta Cumbo has a wondering eye and he has
been and looking north of the border, all eyeing Toronto,
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the Raptors. There is said to be in breathless reporting
mutual interest, mutual interest between the Bucks. Giannis a dent
to Cumbo and Toronto. So Jannis, who's one, not one,
but two Most Valuable Player awards, So I'm told that's
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pretty good. I'm playing in the NBA and the championship
and all that stuff. And it has been widely speculated
that he is considering a relocation situation. The Bucks have
had not one, not two, but three consecutive first round
departures from the postseason. They have been decommissioned in the
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first round three years in a row. And you compound
that with not having a coach. They're the headless deer
Doc Rivers. I'd rather have an actual do as my
coach then a fake doctor Doc Rivers. When you hire Doc,
you're not trying to win. You're not When you hire
Doc Rivers, you're trying to give good soundbites to the
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media and have nice things said about you. Because it's
Doc Rivers. Everyone loves Doc. He's Devin Air, He's got
the smile. Everyone loves them. Can't coach his way out
of a wet paper bag. That's a side. Then you've
got the Dame train which has gone off the tracks,
and the Dame enjoying a steady diet of rice crispy, snap,
crackle and pop, and the Achilles there. So those are
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all the ingredients that have gotten to this point. Now
you know that Toronto, they're out there kicking the time.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
They need that headline.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
They don't anybody, not that we talk much Raptors basketball here,
but they don't. So Milwaukee's championship windows seems to close,
and it seems to be done dead bolted.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
See it later.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
It's not even a window anymore. It's like a wall
at this point. So let us discuss the question. You
make the call? You make the call question, if you're
the Raptors, do you go all in for Giannis a
Dentakumbo and do you actually have a chance to get
the player? So my thoughts on this, I've got Da Vinci,
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saber tooth, Tiger, and slow churn, and we will combine
all of these things together and we are going to
make some ice. Ice baby, is what we're gonna make.
So a to answer the question, if you're the Raptors,
you all in yes, I'm not in my head, yes
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of course. Now do you have a chance to actually
get the player? Well, that's where things get a little foggy.
That's where things get a little foggy. But from the
Toronto site, it's a no brainer, right, It's an absolute
no brainer. Well, it is generally considered taboo for any
star players to sign with the Toronto Raptor. You can
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be traded there, but to actually sign now and this
would be a trade. This would be a trade, but
it's kind of trade where the player wants to go there,
So it's a fake trade, like a real trade is
the player doesn't want to go there, you trade him anyway,
This would be a faux trade. Toronto for big names
in the NBA is seen as a barren wasteland. You
just don't go there, and you can get players in
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the draft. You can have a bunch of no name,
no brand type players and Yannis though, the reason that
there's something there, the reason I'm buying that there's something
there is Yanni's is a different breed a kitty cat,
a different breed of kitty cat here, and doesn't seem
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like he needs the suntan lotion, the bikini bottoms.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
That you get in La or Miami or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
But much like Da Vinci or Michelangelo, a renaissance man
to a point, I do believe the last couple of
years since winning the championship that Yannis has more more
into line with all the other a holes in the NBA.
He still got that international flavor, flavor flavor.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
He's got that going for him.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
And he could be convinced that hey, I can go
and enjoy maple syrup, powdered powered snowblowers and all that stuff.
And maybe he always wanted to play near the CN
Tower and that he really wanted that. And yeah, and
there's a great Greek town. One of our listeners that
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met at the meet and greets, well, Toronto's got there's
a big Greek population there and they've got a great
Greek jown.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
All right.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Uh honest, is I believe under contract, if I'm not
mistaken for another couple of seasons, it would have to
be a trade. Any bucks I am told will demand
a king's ransom you also have the meddling NBA power
brokers who we are going to try to encourage, encourage
Yiannis to go to a.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Big, big, big, big big market.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
The usual suspects LA Miami, New York, and those are
the usual. Maybe Golden State, maybe a Golden State gets
mixed in there, and he's a known commodity. Though you're
the raptors and you're trying to get that big guy.
That's a guy you can actually get, and you're gonna
have to give up a bunch of promissory notes and
you get a proven star who's in the near end
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of his prime. A couple more years of Giannis and
then it's a slow decline, all right now, turning the page,
the round mound of rebound. He was known as that
when he played Charles Barkley making some news. He's announced
that he has it all mapped out, his great escape
from television, appearing right here on Fox Sports Radio with
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Dan Patrick, who also has got it all mapped out.
Dan's got a plan to retire, so Charles Barkley revealed
that he only intends to work two more years.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
He's got a two hundred million dollar contract. But here's
Barkley explaining what his plan is is. He's still with
Warner Brothers. It's kind of weird, but it's gonna be
on ESPN. But he's not gonna really be an ESPN
and play anyway. Listen, here's what Barkley had to say.
I actually have seven years left on my contract. Like, yeah,
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there's no way I'm working seven years.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
I says.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
You know, I'm gonna be a good soldier for Kenny,
Ernie and Shack and the people I work with, because
I love the people I work with, especially behind the scenes.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
I said, But the best I can do is two years.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
All right, So he said two years. He says also concerned.
He says, if ESPN overworks him, even though he's gonna
be working for Turner, he.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Said, he'll just go home. He said, He'll just go home.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
So let us discuss how much Stark how much doc
do you give Charles Barkley, the greatest ex jock turned
player That jock Ocracy usually produces crap with former players
on television, but Charles Barkley is not that he is
at the very top of the food chain when he
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comes to broadcasting. So how much doc do you give
Charles Barkley, as he has announced he is planning to
retire from TV in two years. So after a thorough
deliberation of the available information, we have given this a
solid zero, a solid yeo.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
So Charles Barkley.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
One thing I've come to know over the last ten
plus years of talking about Charles Barkley, and it's been
longer than that, but just the last decade plus, Charles
Barkley loves a saber tooth tiger. But really what he
loves is saber rattling. He loves saber rattling when talking
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about his future. I guess everyone all worked up into
a nice tizzy and likes Barkley is the guy that
will spit in your pocket and announce that it's raining.
As he's spitting a nice thick loogie in your pocket,
he'll announce its rain. Now, we went back to the
copious amounts of notes that we do on a daily
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basis for these mallar monologues, and we.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Went all the way back, back, back back back back
in the hot top.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Time machine to twenty twelve, and we then searched keywords
and we determined that Charles bark has publicly discussed or
announced he's done with television six times since twenty twelve,
six times I'm out, And every time Barkley's continue to work.
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Every time we in our notes we had twenty twelve,
twenty fifteen, twenty eighteen, twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two,
and twenty twenty four, and now we can add twenty
twenty five. Although he didn't announce he's going to quit
right away, he say it's going to be a couple
of years and all that. And every time he's announced this,
every single time, he has continued to work. He's signed
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new contracts, and he has reversed those retirement plans.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
But wait, there's more.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Barkley also loved in the past claiming he was going
to become the governor of Aloe, Obama. This was a
big thing that Barkley brought up many times. There were
four times that goes back to the nineties where Barkley
announced that he was going to be the governor of
his home state, his native state of Alabama. He did
that in the nineties six as well, eight and actually
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twice in eight he announced he was going to become
a governor of Alabama. And either time or all the
times I should say all the times he failed. Barkley
failed to actually run for governor of Alabama and never
did it. He always abandoned that plan, and his political
ambitions were bullshoy. We're absolutely bullshoy. Now there is an
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age situation which is a factor, but only a little bit.
Barkley is now sixty two, so's he's at the point
he's got a lot of money, and he's got a
lot of money because of television. He's got money because
of TV, not because of basketball, because of basketball and TV.
But Charles Barkley is a TV commentator. He's not a
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former player. He's a TV guy. And it really isn't work.
Like I've been lucky enough alasco years had a TV
show and like this has worked. Like the radio shows
where I do everything for the show, put it all together.
Like the TV show, there's people that help you. There's
like support staff, producers and directors and people that make
you look good and it helps out a lot, and
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it's wonderful to be in that environment. So if you're
doing TV like Barkley, I mean, you got a million
people helping you. You just show up and you don't
have to worry about putting monologues together and doing all
the other You don't worry about it, right because you
know people actually help you out. It's amazing thing. And
Barkley's getting twelve and a half million dollars per year
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and he has earned a massive amount more as a
TV guy than a player. In fact, I went back
I look Barkley when he played for the Sixers and
the Suns and bounced around the NBA a little bit,
mostly the Suns the Sixers, but Charles Barkley played with
the Rocket Sliz.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
But his total.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Earnings like forty million, which a lot of money. And
let's hold old money. Forty million as a player, he
has made it's estimated close to two hundred million as
a broadcaster, so forty million as a player, I think
it's like one hundred and seventy hundred and seventy five
million something in that ballpark, which is a good ballpark.
And that does not even include like the endorsement stuff
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that he's he's got, so he's cashing in.
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was apparently blind, he's illegally blind.
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They put some glasses on.
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All of a sudden, he's hitting the ball again and
the dagger to the Metropolitan Why might start with that,
that's a random regular season game in early June. And
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The biggest story play the Hits, mall Man play the Hits,
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pro bouncy ball. Noda na dada, he good bye. Fresh
off the upstart playoff run, the toast of the NBA,
overcoming demons of years gone by, the New York Knickerbockers
said bye bye to their head coach. They shot their shot.
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This is so great, this is outsteading. I love this.
It is such incompetence. It is malfeasance. So if you
haven't heard by now, what are you doing. It's a
bad job, ay you? So we learned in the afternoon hours,
the Knickerbockers had decided to paul axe their head coach,
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Tom Thibodeau. He going bye bye. He's out of there now.
This is one year after signing a three year, big
money extension with New York. Thibodeau is kicked out of Gotham, get.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Out of here. So New York New York will be
looking for a new voice to.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Bark underneath Penn Station there, try to get over the
hump five years of coach Tibbs and no more. The
Knickerbockers say bye bye. Still trying to win a championship
for the first time in over fifty years, since the
early seventies, which was before the Internet. We know that
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it was before cable television existed. In fact, in nineteen
seventy three, more people were listening to radio then we're
watching even television. It was a crossover point back then.
But there were radio was much more popular even than television.
So it's been a minute, so let us discuss the
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question did the Knicks do coach Tom Thibodeau dirty?
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Did they do him dirty with this pink slip?
Speaker 1 (18:23):
So I've got infomercial, Sesame Street, and iPad and we
will combine all of these things together and we're going
to make a nice trip to can Kuhn. Tom Thibodau
does not appear to be the kind of guy that
would go to can Kuhn, but he can, he can
afford it, and he's got plenty of free time. Plenty
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of free time. So my first thought here as I
learned from one of my teachers as a kid that
my teacher was named doctor Seuss. I think that doctor
Seuss got canceled somewhere along the way, but you know,
not in my world. So doctor Seuss taught me when
I was a child. That's sometimes in life the questions
are complicated and the answers are simple, and this would.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Be one of those times.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
The answer to the question that we posed whether or
not the Knicks did Tom Thibodeau dirty? Is apse of
freaking loutely that is the answer here. We're talking about
a basketball travesty. Of course, knowing it's just basketball, what
is that from a pure just hoop head perspective? Right now,
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we can question how much coaches matter and all that stuff,
and why do you even need a coach? That aside
that conversation, We've had that conversation, you and I, but
that aside, just talk about from the basketball side.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
What are you doing here? Seriously, what are you doing.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Watching Tom Thibodeau coach the Knicks over the last five years.
I'm a big fan of infomercials. When I was a
little kid, I you know, I hang out at night
watching infomercials. Back in the old days and infomercial I
remember it was one infomercial that was very popular, old
school infomercial.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
It was the Jack Lulane. Most people don't even know
who that is anymore.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
He's gone, but Jack Lane Power juicer was very popular infomercial.
And I was singing about that when I was watching
the fallout from the coaching change in New York, because
coach Tibbs squeezed every ounce of talent, every ounce of
talent out of that roster, that locker room, however you
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want to say it. And it was like he was
taking a rock and juicing a rock and he got
something out of it.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
He did.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
They had back to back fifty win regular seasons. Well
it doesn't monitor it's the regular season, okay, back to
back fifty win seasons, Eastern Conference finals for the first
time in a generation, a bleeping generation, and doing that
while looking like a swamp donkey coaching the next I mean,
his whole life dependent on every game. He was been draggled.
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He just did not care about his appearance. He just
was trying. He was a coach.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
And that's it.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
In Big Apple Fashion Week in Manhattan and he's out
there like a slob because he's just a coach. He's
just grinding away every single game and all that stuff,
and he helped it. Wasn't the only reason. Wasn't even
the main rees. The players are ultimately the ones that matter.
But that being said, Tom Thibodeau took over a team
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that was a laughing stock.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Everyone would point their finger.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
And say haha, like Nelson from The Simpsons, and they
turned that into a team that would punch back and
did punch back and professionally.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
I mean, let me be clear, you've got two.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Dimensions at the same time, because you've got the professional
dimension from a again a hoop standpoint may.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
And that blows, boyd does that blow?
Speaker 1 (21:57):
And then on the other side you've got the personal
side of it and financially in that dimension. This is
a wonderful mitzvah for Tom Thibodeau because the Knicks, if
my mal or math is correct, the Knicks have to
pay him thirty million dollars to do nothing.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
He doesn't have to work again.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
He can go move to Key West and you know,
smoke weed all day and all night and all that
and just knock himself out, go play pickleball, sit on
he's sit on a sofa for the next several years
and just watch TikTok videos and the Knicks gotta pay
him thirty million.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
I mean, my god, what is wrong with that? But
but yes, you've got two different things going on.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
It does not appear that coach Tibbs is hardwired to
be that guy who's just like, hey, I don't really
care about whether I work or not. It seems like
a guy that actually likes his job, takes pride in
his work, doesn't cut corners things like that. Now page two.
So the question is who done it? Oh, it's a
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great mystery, it's just sports radio. But so who done it?
This is not the kind of a move that is
normally made.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
You overcame the odds, the Knicks.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
We're not supposed to even get to the final four
of the NBA this year, and they did.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
So who pulled the trigger?
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Who's the one that's fingerprints are on the trigger? There
to move to change coaches for the Knickerbockers. So there
is this great debate. There are a couple of camps
here that have there's three possibilities, like Triangle, there's three possibilities.
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I'm gonna give you the possibilities A, B and C,
and then you make the call. But I'm actually gonna
make the call first because I have the Buldie pulpit,
So I'm going to make the call before you. So
the very top, you always start out with the disgruntled
star player, because that's what usually happens in that business.
Lebron snaps his fingers, coach gets fired, all right, that's
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normally how that works. Nikole Jokic has a problem with
Michael Malone. He gone done matter three days before the
three games before the end of a seasons.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Coach.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
It's called the coach killer. I don't get the sense
that's going on here. Not to say that Jalen Brunson
and Tom Thibodeau were sitting around the campfire and smoking
and singing Kumbaya and all that. I don't think that
was going on. Uh, there was a pretty good relationship.
Jalen Brunson fully blossomed under the guidance or the tutelage
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or just the freedom to play from Tom Thibodeau and
became an all NBA level player where you know, the
hot take artists or like, hey, wait a minute, this
guy is like in the same category of this guy
and that guy just like that. Now we believe they
had a sincere bond. Maybe we're gullible. It's possible, you know,
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what do we know? It's just I don't get the
sense and I'm I'm not great at the English language.
I don't really know much. You know, I know some
weird and random words from different languages around the world.
But body language, oh man, that's my wheelhead. I know
the body language and uh right there right, So so
it's not the player. Well then you go, well, what
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about the executive? Was their bad blood? And Leon Rose
was the executive? The president of Basketball Operation, I believe
is the official title. So was it Leon Rose? What
about the the owner James Dolan? So I have looked
at the available evidence. I have deliberated in the jury room.
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I do not believe it was Leon Rose. I don't.
I do not think it was Leon Rose. Leon Rose
before he came to the next was the agent for
who Tom Thibodeau. Yes, they were, they were, buddy Leon
Rose calling me, you got ah, this guy hired TIBs. Okay,
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So I don't buy that. Now agents are slime balls
and sleeves balls. I have had agents, and they're generally losers.
They're just bad people. So it's conceivable, like maybe like
two percent that Leon Rose is just a snake and
he didn't. But I don't buy that. I don't buy that.
I look at Sesame Street. I look at Sesame Street
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and a cookie monster who lives on Sesame Street. And
you follow the cookie crumbs, and when you follow the
cookie crumbs, they lead back to James Dolan.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
The plot thickens.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
James Dolton had his hand in the cookie jar, and
that's where I'm going. The Knicks were the popular pick
by popular people. Once they upset the Celtics. You had
a celebration through the Canyon of Heroes. You had the
Nick fans throwing trash and celebration. Everyone will saying, oh
the Knicks got this, they got home court at the
God they're playing the Hicks from Indiana. There's no way
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they're going to lose that series of the Pacers, Are
you kidding me? It is a layup And if we
saw that crap, I'm pretty confident that James Dolan going
to his Hampton hodown and schmoozing and drinking those Moscow
mules and the long island, iced teas, hanging out with
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Olive Arks and aristocrats and all the things that rich
people do. The percent of the one percent. They were all, Oh,
you got this, Dolan, this is great. You're ready to go,
way to go, James dol Oh my god, this is amazing.
And so they were quick. Also the other thing, even
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if you don't believe that I'm right, the.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Thing that is the dead give way the Knicks.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Using useful idiots in the media, their bodies behind paywalls.
The Knicks made sure to say that it was leon
Rose's decision.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
They leak that.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Now, what does that tell us? That tells us it
wasn't leon Rose's decision. That tells us that he was
not the one that made the call. That he is
being propped off as the fall guy. He's they got
to blame somebody because it's not a popular move, so
gonna blame him. It was an irrational move by Dolan,
the owner of the team. The Knicks had a plumbing issue.
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Think of it this way. You got a problem with
your plumbing and instead of saying I'm gonna call like
Roto Ruter or whatever, I'm gonna call some plumber. Instead
of calling about go to the website, sending an email
getting the plumber. James Dolan determined that the best solution
to the plumbing problem, to the leaky faucet was to
(28:48):
burn the house down. There's the fastest league of a bit,
so let's burn the damn thing down.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Which is I think I believe the word is beta.
That is a beta move by doing now the last
word quick, right, the last word here? Where do the
Knickerbockers go now to replace Tom Thibodeau, Like, what's the
chess move here?
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Now?
Speaker 1 (29:12):
You got the gambling market. The gambling market, they immediately said,
X Knicks associate coach Johnny Bryant. I don't really know
who that is, but apparently he's the darling, the next
big thing in coaching, Johnny Bryant. Bryant has been with Cleveland.
He is a finalist for the Phoenix Sun's job. Some
(29:35):
saying the reason the Knicks fired Thibodeau when they did
is because they want that guy, and to get that guy,
they had to do this because otherwise Bryant.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Would go coach the Sons and he'd be.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Out in the desert hanging out with cactus and they
didn't want that and all that stuff. The other read
on the gambling market. You got Kenny Atkinson, who's the
second choice, and he's the coach of the year who
lost to in so he knows a thing or two
about that in the playoffs. And then you've got the
usual rejects like Frank Vogel and Budenhozer and.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
The names like that.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
And then further page down, Pat Strake, Ewing, Mark Jackson,
long shots, unrealistic options, unrealistic options. And so now we
do not know, We do not know. Our crystal ball
is not working right now. We do not know who
the next coach or the Knicks is going to be,
(30:30):
but we do know what they're going to be like.
And I will gare Auntie the profile. You know how
the FBI does profiling of what they think some whack
a doodle is like, what they're like.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
So here's the profile of the next Knicks coach. Okay,
the next.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Next coach will be an innovative, offensive mind players coach
who likes drinking oat milk and hanging out doing hot yoga,
drawing up plays on his iPad while I'm doing hot yoga.
That'll be the next coach, right, the coddle coach, because
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you go from a hard ass coach like Tom Thibodeau,
and the hard ass is relative. It's you know, it's
not that it's not a drill sergeant at Marine boot camp,
but it's it's like it's my NBA standards. So you
have a coddle coach who drives the mister softy truck.
You've got that, and that'll be somebody that comes in
here and like rub shoulders with you know, people hanging
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out those art galleries over over and soho. You know,
the art gallery crowd and it goes to fashion Week,
you know, and dresses up as you know, Fashion East
and all that stuff. Just everything that Tom Thibodeau isn't
like he didn't Thibodau didn't care about.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
All that crap.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
He's just worried about coaching and obviously doesn't take any
pride in his personal appearance. He looks like Shrek, and
the next coach will not be that.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
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Speaker 1 (32:01):
Let's welcome in our contessants. We have we are going
to play Maus amount of money. We've got Mike in Boston.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Hello. Oh, he's boy. He's got the radio turned all
the way up. Holy crap. That's like talk radio one one.
They've had a delay and talk radio.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Since the nineteen fifties. All right, let's try are you there, Mike?
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Oh crap? All right, Well let's try Kelly in Des Moines.
Maybe that'll work.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
See Kelly in the Moinn. Hello, Kelly, Hi man, Hello, Kelly, welcome.
You're gonna play maus amount of money. Who would you
like to partner up with? Our friend Kelly?
Speaker 3 (32:38):
I'm gonna go with you, all right. We're in it
to win it, all right.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
And you're already in the league because you know that
there's a delay and you can't have your audio turned
all the way up.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
So you're in the lead. And we've got Mike in
Boss and CVS there. Hello, Mike, Hi, Sorry about that
bad job by you? All right, mikeeh, who do you
want to partner up with? Mike? All right, well you
good choice, Mike.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Picklarida. What are the categories? This go quickly, quickly, quickly, quickly.
It's Malar's Mountain of Money, gentlemen. This is the Mallards
Mount of Money, Dana Carvey edition. He turned seventy years
old on Monday.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Oh my god, no, church lady.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
All right, h the categories aren't This is spinal tap, Opportunity,
Knocks Moving, and Wayne's World. Kelly, which category would you?
Speaker 3 (33:32):
You're like? Hold on? Hold on, sake me, punch this guy?
Go ahead? Oh that's not Kelly.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Go ahead, Kelly, I would like to Wayne's World.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Wayne's Well, okay, good choice. What about you, Mike? This
is spinal tap? Okay?
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Those are the categories. Everyone, hold on, do not hang up.
We're gonna have Mallars Mount of Mine.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Who's gonna win?
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Get your bets in, Get your bets in, Go over
to DraftKings, get your bets in. We're gonna have it.
Kelly into more, she's gonna win. So she's steaming with
me and then Mike in Boston with Coop.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
We'll get to that. We will do it next.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
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what it takes to get to the top. Probably not.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Let's do it. Here we go. The matchup is set
Kelly in the Moines formerly in Nashville.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
She is canoodling with a fellow listening to the show
The Power Couple of Eye where she and in the
morn and Kelly, everything good with you two kids?
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Kelly, Yes, yes, it's amazing man, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Wonderful outs Masle talk all right. And Mike in Boston
is teamed up with Cooper Loop. The Dana Carvey Edition
turned seventy on Monday. And you're a first Kelly, you
Wayne's world? Is that correct?
Speaker 5 (35:02):
Correct?
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (35:03):
We got forty five seconds. These athletes have all been
considered sidekicks. We need the first and last name. Are
you ready, Kelly? Yes, all right, forty five seconds.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
We're on our way.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Go. Michael Jordan's right hand man for the Bulls, Yes,
tight end for the Patriots with Tom Brady white guy right. Yes,
running back for the Broncos. Some say he was the
sidekick to John Elway. Others say he was the main
player for those great Bronco teams.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Carl Malone's sidekick with the Utah Jazz, John Cockett. Yes,
Barry Bonds sidekick, although he won an MVP with the
San Francisco Giants. A second baseman, white guy wore a
porn mustache. Oh all right, the other wide receiver for
the forty nine ers in the eighties next to you
had Jerry Rice on one side and this guy on
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the other.
Speaker 5 (35:58):
Come on, sorry, that was a pretty good clue.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
All right, she was Okay, I got seventy points.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
All right, Mike. You didn't get John Taylor either.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
Oh that's who was the other Terrell Davis is the
running back there, it is, thank you. Wow, it doesn't
help now, Mike, Uh, we have this is spinal tap.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
These athletes were all in a band at one point
in their life. Mike, are you ready?
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Yep?
Speaker 3 (36:36):
All right? Forty five seconds to begin.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
Super Bowl winning quarterback for the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Uh. This guy was one of the best dunkers of
his time. Started with the Raptors. He yes.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
This guy was a catcher for the Dodgers. He got
traded to the Mets.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Mike, that's correct.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
This guy was a center fielder for the Yankees in
the in the nineties when they won all their chimpions. Yes,
this guy was a linebacker for the Patriots in the
nineties and two thousands.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
White guy.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
Yes, this guy was a shortstop for a bunch of teams.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
Uh, the Indians, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
Uh. And this guy was a Hall of Fame quarterback
for the Brown Okay, all right.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
All right, what was that, Kelly? Yes, and I'm sorry,
don't break my heart. She's already apologized. Come on, how
did he get from that clue? Probably cheating? You're cheating? Okay,
(37:47):
all right.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
You just Kelly, You're losing to a guy that cloud
your category.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Kelly, opportunity knocks are moving?
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Wait? What were the options?
Speaker 4 (37:59):
I'm sorry, take your time, opportunity knocks or moving otnity?
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
These athletes all started as backups and became stars. Forty
five seconds.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
On the clock. We're on our way.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Go.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Greatest quarterback in NFL history for the Patriots. He was
a quarterback for the forty nine ers. He took a
knee during the national anthem. Yes, French point guard for
the great Spurs teams of the two thousands. Tony Kukoch now,
wow you okay? No, the Iron Horse for the Yankees.
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He had the all time most consecutive games played until
cal Ripken broke his streak Okay White quarterback from the
eighties Giants. He replaced Phil Simms. He also had a
porn mustache and won a Super Bowl with the New
York Giants in the mid nineteen eighties or nineties early nineties.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Come on, come on, come on, you got the first
name right. It was Tony Parker, Tony Well, Tony kukok
was a player for the Bulls, but not Kelly. He
broke my heart. Kelly Surry, then lou Gerig. I'm devastated. Kelly.
You won, Mike. Now figure out the delay on your radio.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
You gotta golden, take a you gotta gold Got a
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our lead this hour, I was debating going with baseball.
We did that the other day and I got several
complaints with baseball.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
It's only June. I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Let me, my God didn't play million more than tapes,
So shut up. I wanna tell you about a sport
they're not even gonna play this. Well, there's a couple
of basketball games no one will be watching this week
starting on Thursday, but no games until late in the year,
late in the year. But our lead this hour is
from pro bouncy Ball. Pro bouncy Ball. Now, we got
(02:20):
a bunch of downtime before the matchup with the Cornfield
versus the Soybean in the NBA Finals. Now, to fill
the void, we have cranked up the rumor machine. It
has been working over time and serving up some Greek food.
That's right, a little Greek food on that And if
(02:41):
you have not been following, it's a bad job by you.
Some chatter that the Milwaukee Bucks superstar, the man that
held up the championship trophy a couple of years ago.
Giannis Adenta Cumbo has a wondering eye and he has
been and looking north of the border, all eyeing Toronto,
(03:07):
the Raptors. There is said to be in breathless reporting
mutual interest, mutual interest between the Bucks. Giannis a dent
to Cumbo and Toronto. So Jannis, who's one, not one,
but two Most Valuable Player awards, So I'm told that's
(03:28):
pretty good. I'm playing in the NBA and the championship
and all that stuff. And it has been widely speculated
that he is considering a relocation situation. The Bucks have
had not one, not two, but three consecutive first round
departures from the postseason. They have been decommissioned in the
(03:49):
first round three years in a row. And you compound
that with not having a coach. They're the headless deer
Doc Rivers. I'd rather have an actual do as my
coach then a fake doctor Doc Rivers. When you hire Doc,
you're not trying to win. You're not When you hire
Doc Rivers, you're trying to give good soundbites to the
(04:10):
media and have nice things said about you. Because it's
Doc Rivers. Everyone loves Doc. He's Devin Air, He's got
the smile. Everyone loves them. Can't coach his way out
of a wet paper bag. That's a side. Then you've
got the Dame train which has gone off the tracks,
and the Dame enjoying a steady diet of rice crispy, snap,
crackle and pop, and the Achilles there. So those are
(04:33):
all the ingredients that have gotten to this point. Now
you know that Toronto, they're out there kicking the time.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
They need that headline.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
They don't anybody, not that we talk much Raptors basketball here,
but they don't. So Milwaukee's championship windows seems to close,
and it seems to be done dead bolted.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
See it later.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
It's not even a window anymore. It's like a wall
at this point. So let us discuss the question. You
make the call? You make the call question, if you're
the Raptors, do you go all in for Giannis a
Dentakumbo and do you actually have a chance to get
the player? So my thoughts on this, I've got Da Vinci,
(05:16):
saber tooth, Tiger, and slow churn, and we will combine
all of these things together and we are going to
make some ice. Ice baby, is what we're gonna make.
So a to answer the question, if you're the Raptors,
you all in yes, I'm not in my head, yes
(05:36):
of course. Now do you have a chance to actually
get the player? Well, that's where things get a little foggy.
That's where things get a little foggy. But from the
Toronto site, it's a no brainer, right, It's an absolute
no brainer. Well, it is generally considered taboo for any
star players to sign with the Toronto Raptor. You can
(05:57):
be traded there, but to actually sign now and this
would be a trade. This would be a trade, but
it's kind of trade where the player wants to go there,
So it's a fake trade, like a real trade is
the player doesn't want to go there, you trade him anyway,
This would be a faux trade. Toronto for big names
in the NBA is seen as a barren wasteland. You
just don't go there, and you can get players in
(06:19):
the draft. You can have a bunch of no name,
no brand type players and Yannis though, the reason that
there's something there, the reason I'm buying that there's something
there is Yanni's is a different breed a kitty cat,
a different breed of kitty cat here, and doesn't seem
(06:39):
like he needs the suntan lotion, the bikini bottoms.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
That you get in La or Miami or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
But much like Da Vinci or Michelangelo, a renaissance man
to a point, I do believe the last couple of
years since winning the championship that Yannis has more more
into line with all the other a holes in the NBA.
He still got that international flavor, flavor flavor.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
He's got that going for him.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
And he could be convinced that hey, I can go
and enjoy maple syrup, powdered powered snowblowers and all that stuff.
And maybe he always wanted to play near the CN
Tower and that he really wanted that. And yeah, and
there's a great Greek town. One of our listeners that
(07:30):
met at the meet and greets, well, Toronto's got there's
a big Greek population there and they've got a great
Greek jown.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
All right.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Uh honest, is I believe under contract, if I'm not
mistaken for another couple of seasons, it would have to
be a trade. Any bucks I am told will demand
a king's ransom you also have the meddling NBA power
brokers who we are going to try to encourage, encourage
Yiannis to go to a.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Big, big, big, big big market.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
The usual suspects LA Miami, New York, and those are
the usual. Maybe Golden State, maybe a Golden State gets
mixed in there, and he's a known commodity. Though you're
the raptors and you're trying to get that big guy.
That's a guy you can actually get, and you're gonna
have to give up a bunch of promissory notes and
you get a proven star who's in the near end
(08:18):
of his prime. A couple more years of Giannis and
then it's a slow decline, all right now, turning the page,
the round mound of rebound. He was known as that
when he played Charles Barkley making some news. He's announced
that he has it all mapped out, his great escape
from television, appearing right here on Fox Sports Radio with
(08:40):
Dan Patrick, who also has got it all mapped out.
Dan's got a plan to retire, so Charles Barkley revealed
that he only intends to work two more years.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
He's got a two hundred million dollar contract. But here's
Barkley explaining what his plan is is. He's still with
Warner Brothers. It's kind of weird, but it's gonna be
on ESPN. But he's not gonna really be an ESPN
and play anyway. Listen, here's what Barkley had to say.
I actually have seven years left on my contract. Like, yeah,
(09:14):
there's no way I'm working seven years.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
I says.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
You know, I'm gonna be a good soldier for Kenny,
Ernie and Shack and the people I work with, because
I love the people I work with, especially behind the scenes.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
I said, But the best I can do is two years.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
All right, So he said two years. He says also concerned.
He says, if ESPN overworks him, even though he's gonna
be working for Turner, he.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Said, he'll just go home. He said, He'll just go home.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
So let us discuss how much Stark how much doc
do you give Charles Barkley, the greatest ex jock turned
player That jock Ocracy usually produces crap with former players
on television, but Charles Barkley is not that he is
at the very top of the food chain when he
(09:56):
comes to broadcasting. So how much doc do you give
Charles Barkley, as he has announced he is planning to
retire from TV in two years. So after a thorough
deliberation of the available information, we have given this a
solid zero, a solid yeo.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
So Charles Barkley.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
One thing I've come to know over the last ten
plus years of talking about Charles Barkley, and it's been
longer than that, but just the last decade plus, Charles
Barkley loves a saber tooth tiger. But really what he
loves is saber rattling. He loves saber rattling when talking
(10:36):
about his future. I guess everyone all worked up into
a nice tizzy and likes Barkley is the guy that
will spit in your pocket and announce that it's raining.
As he's spitting a nice thick loogie in your pocket,
he'll announce its rain. Now, we went back to the
copious amounts of notes that we do on a daily
(10:57):
basis for these mallar monologues, and we.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Went all the way back, back, back back back back
in the hot top.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Time machine to twenty twelve, and we then searched keywords
and we determined that Charles bark has publicly discussed or
announced he's done with television six times since twenty twelve,
six times I'm out, And every time Barkley's continue to work.
(11:27):
Every time we in our notes we had twenty twelve,
twenty fifteen, twenty eighteen, twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two,
and twenty twenty four, and now we can add twenty
twenty five. Although he didn't announce he's going to quit
right away, he say it's going to be a couple
of years and all that. And every time he's announced this,
every single time, he has continued to work. He's signed
(11:48):
new contracts, and he has reversed those retirement plans.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
But wait, there's more.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Barkley also loved in the past claiming he was going
to become the governor of Aloe, Obama. This was a
big thing that Barkley brought up many times. There were
four times that goes back to the nineties where Barkley
announced that he was going to be the governor of
his home state, his native state of Alabama. He did
that in the nineties six as well, eight and actually
(12:19):
twice in eight he announced he was going to become
a governor of Alabama. And either time or all the
times I should say all the times he failed. Barkley
failed to actually run for governor of Alabama and never
did it. He always abandoned that plan, and his political
ambitions were bullshoy. We're absolutely bullshoy. Now there is an
(12:42):
age situation which is a factor, but only a little bit.
Barkley is now sixty two, so's he's at the point
he's got a lot of money, and he's got a
lot of money because of television. He's got money because
of TV, not because of basketball, because of basketball and TV.
But Charles Barkley is a TV commentator. He's not a
(13:05):
former player. He's a TV guy. And it really isn't work.
Like I've been lucky enough alasco years had a TV
show and like this has worked. Like the radio shows
where I do everything for the show, put it all together.
Like the TV show, there's people that help you. There's
like support staff, producers and directors and people that make
you look good and it helps out a lot, and
(13:25):
it's wonderful to be in that environment. So if you're
doing TV like Barkley, I mean, you got a million
people helping you. You just show up and you don't
have to worry about putting monologues together and doing all
the other You don't worry about it, right because you
know people actually help you out. It's amazing thing. And
Barkley's getting twelve and a half million dollars per year
(13:45):
and he has earned a massive amount more as a
TV guy than a player. In fact, I went back
I look Barkley when he played for the Sixers and
the Suns and bounced around the NBA a little bit,
mostly the Suns the Sixers, but Charles Barkley played with
the Rocket Sliz.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
But his total.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Earnings like forty million, which a lot of money. And
let's hold old money. Forty million as a player, he
has made it's estimated close to two hundred million as
a broadcaster, so forty million as a player, I think
it's like one hundred and seventy hundred and seventy five
million something in that ballpark, which is a good ballpark.
And that does not even include like the endorsement stuff
(14:29):
that he's he's got, so he's cashing in.
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And we are back at and I could sit here
and wax poetic about the douts years. Max Munsey who
was apparently blind, he's illegally blind.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
They put some glasses on.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
All of a sudden, he's hitting the ball again and
the dagger to the Metropolitan Why might start with that,
that's a random regular season game in early June. And
while there are some stories in baseball that I think
are worthy of some hot talk, not to start the show.
The biggest story play the Hits, mall Man play the Hits,
(16:26):
pro bouncy ball. Noda na dada, he good bye. Fresh
off the upstart playoff run, the toast of the NBA,
overcoming demons of years gone by, the New York Knickerbockers
said bye bye to their head coach. They shot their shot.
(16:50):
This is so great, this is outsteading. I love this.
It is such incompetence. It is malfeasance. So if you
haven't heard by now, what are you doing. It's a
bad job, ay you? So we learned in the afternoon hours,
the Knickerbockers had decided to paul axe their head coach,
(17:11):
Tom Thibodeau. He going bye bye. He's out of there now.
This is one year after signing a three year, big
money extension with New York. Thibodeau is kicked out of Gotham, get.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Out of here. So New York New York will be
looking for a new voice to.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Bark underneath Penn Station there, try to get over the
hump five years of coach Tibbs and no more. The
Knickerbockers say bye bye. Still trying to win a championship
for the first time in over fifty years, since the
early seventies, which was before the Internet. We know that
(17:52):
it was before cable television existed. In fact, in nineteen
seventy three, more people were listening to radio then we're
watching even television. It was a crossover point back then.
But there were radio was much more popular even than television.
So it's been a minute, so let us discuss the
(18:14):
question did the Knicks do coach Tom Thibodeau dirty?
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Did they do him dirty with this pink slip?
Speaker 1 (18:23):
So I've got infomercial, Sesame Street, and iPad and we
will combine all of these things together and we're going
to make a nice trip to can Kuhn. Tom Thibodau
does not appear to be the kind of guy that
would go to can Kuhn, but he can, he can
afford it, and he's got plenty of free time. Plenty
(18:46):
of free time. So my first thought here as I
learned from one of my teachers as a kid that
my teacher was named doctor Seuss. I think that doctor
Seuss got canceled somewhere along the way, but you know,
not in my world. So doctor Seuss taught me when
I was a child. That's sometimes in life the questions
are complicated and the answers are simple, and this would.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Be one of those times.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
The answer to the question that we posed whether or
not the Knicks did Tom Thibodeau dirty? Is apse of
freaking loutely that is the answer here. We're talking about
a basketball travesty. Of course, knowing it's just basketball, what
is that from a pure just hoop head perspective? Right now,
(19:30):
we can question how much coaches matter and all that stuff,
and why do you even need a coach? That aside
that conversation, We've had that conversation, you and I, but
that aside, just talk about from the basketball side.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
What are you doing here? Seriously, what are you doing.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Watching Tom Thibodeau coach the Knicks over the last five years.
I'm a big fan of infomercials. When I was a
little kid, I you know, I hang out at night
watching infomercials. Back in the old days and infomercial I
remember it was one infomercial that was very popular, old
school infomercial.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
It was the Jack Lulane. Most people don't even know
who that is anymore.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
He's gone, but Jack Lane Power juicer was very popular infomercial.
And I was singing about that when I was watching
the fallout from the coaching change in New York, because
coach Tibbs squeezed every ounce of talent, every ounce of
talent out of that roster, that locker room, however you
(20:30):
want to say it. And it was like he was
taking a rock and juicing a rock and he got
something out of it.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
He did.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
They had back to back fifty win regular seasons. Well
it doesn't monitor it's the regular season, okay, back to
back fifty win seasons, Eastern Conference finals for the first
time in a generation, a bleeping generation, and doing that
while looking like a swamp donkey coaching the next I mean,
his whole life dependent on every game. He was been draggled.
(21:03):
He just did not care about his appearance. He just
was trying. He was a coach.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
And that's it.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
In Big Apple Fashion Week in Manhattan and he's out
there like a slob because he's just a coach. He's
just grinding away every single game and all that stuff,
and he helped it. Wasn't the only reason. Wasn't even
the main rees. The players are ultimately the ones that matter.
But that being said, Tom Thibodeau took over a team
(21:30):
that was a laughing stock.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Everyone would point their finger.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
And say haha, like Nelson from The Simpsons, and they
turned that into a team that would punch back and
did punch back and professionally.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
I mean, let me be clear, you've got two.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Dimensions at the same time, because you've got the professional
dimension from a again a hoop standpoint may.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
And that blows, boyd does that blow?
Speaker 1 (21:57):
And then on the other side you've got the personal
side of it and financially in that dimension. This is
a wonderful mitzvah for Tom Thibodeau because the Knicks, if
my mal or math is correct, the Knicks have to
pay him thirty million dollars to do nothing.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
He doesn't have to work again.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
He can go move to Key West and you know,
smoke weed all day and all night and all that
and just knock himself out, go play pickleball, sit on
he's sit on a sofa for the next several years
and just watch TikTok videos and the Knicks gotta pay
him thirty million.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
I mean, my god, what is wrong with that? But
but yes, you've got two different things going on.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
It does not appear that coach Tibbs is hardwired to
be that guy who's just like, hey, I don't really
care about whether I work or not. It seems like
a guy that actually likes his job, takes pride in
his work, doesn't cut corners things like that. Now page two.
So the question is who done it? Oh, it's a
(23:01):
great mystery, it's just sports radio. But so who done it?
This is not the kind of a move that is
normally made.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
You overcame the odds, the Knicks.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
We're not supposed to even get to the final four
of the NBA this year, and they did.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
So who pulled the trigger?
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Who's the one that's fingerprints are on the trigger? There
to move to change coaches for the Knickerbockers. So there
is this great debate. There are a couple of camps
here that have there's three possibilities, like Triangle, there's three possibilities.
(23:42):
I'm gonna give you the possibilities A, B and C,
and then you make the call. But I'm actually gonna
make the call first because I have the Buldie pulpit,
So I'm going to make the call before you. So
the very top, you always start out with the disgruntled
star player, because that's what usually happens in that business.
Lebron snaps his fingers, coach gets fired, all right, that's
(24:03):
normally how that works. Nikole Jokic has a problem with
Michael Malone. He gone done matter three days before the
three games before the end of a seasons.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Coach.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
It's called the coach killer. I don't get the sense
that's going on here. Not to say that Jalen Brunson
and Tom Thibodeau were sitting around the campfire and smoking
and singing Kumbaya and all that. I don't think that
was going on. Uh, there was a pretty good relationship.
Jalen Brunson fully blossomed under the guidance or the tutelage
(24:36):
or just the freedom to play from Tom Thibodeau and
became an all NBA level player where you know, the
hot take artists or like, hey, wait a minute, this
guy is like in the same category of this guy
and that guy just like that. Now we believe they
had a sincere bond. Maybe we're gullible. It's possible, you know,
(24:58):
what do we know? It's just I don't get the
sense and I'm I'm not great at the English language.
I don't really know much. You know, I know some
weird and random words from different languages around the world.
But body language, oh man, that's my wheelhead. I know
the body language and uh right there right, So so
it's not the player. Well then you go, well, what
(25:19):
about the executive? Was their bad blood? And Leon Rose
was the executive? The president of Basketball Operation, I believe
is the official title. So was it Leon Rose? What
about the the owner James Dolan? So I have looked
at the available evidence. I have deliberated in the jury room.
(25:41):
I do not believe it was Leon Rose. I don't.
I do not think it was Leon Rose. Leon Rose
before he came to the next was the agent for
who Tom Thibodeau. Yes, they were, they were, buddy Leon
Rose calling me, you got ah, this guy hired TIBs. Okay,
(26:03):
So I don't buy that. Now agents are slime balls
and sleeves balls. I have had agents, and they're generally losers.
They're just bad people. So it's conceivable, like maybe like
two percent that Leon Rose is just a snake and
he didn't. But I don't buy that. I don't buy that.
I look at Sesame Street. I look at Sesame Street
(26:26):
and a cookie monster who lives on Sesame Street. And
you follow the cookie crumbs, and when you follow the
cookie crumbs, they lead back to James Dolan.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
The plot thickens.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
James Dolton had his hand in the cookie jar, and
that's where I'm going. The Knicks were the popular pick
by popular people. Once they upset the Celtics. You had
a celebration through the Canyon of Heroes. You had the
Nick fans throwing trash and celebration. Everyone will saying, oh
the Knicks got this, they got home court at the
God they're playing the Hicks from Indiana. There's no way
(27:04):
they're going to lose that series of the Pacers, Are
you kidding me? It is a layup And if we
saw that crap, I'm pretty confident that James Dolan going
to his Hampton hodown and schmoozing and drinking those Moscow
mules and the long island, iced teas, hanging out with
(27:25):
Olive Arks and aristocrats and all the things that rich
people do. The percent of the one percent. They were all, Oh,
you got this, Dolan, this is great. You're ready to go,
way to go, James dol Oh my god, this is amazing.
And so they were quick. Also the other thing, even
(27:46):
if you don't believe that I'm right, the.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Thing that is the dead give way the Knicks.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Using useful idiots in the media, their bodies behind paywalls.
The Knicks made sure to say that it was leon
Rose's decision.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
They leak that.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Now, what does that tell us? That tells us it
wasn't leon Rose's decision. That tells us that he was
not the one that made the call. That he is
being propped off as the fall guy. He's they got
to blame somebody because it's not a popular move, so
gonna blame him. It was an irrational move by Dolan,
the owner of the team. The Knicks had a plumbing issue.
(28:25):
Think of it this way. You got a problem with
your plumbing and instead of saying I'm gonna call like
Roto Ruter or whatever, I'm gonna call some plumber. Instead
of calling about go to the website, sending an email
getting the plumber. James Dolan determined that the best solution
to the plumbing problem, to the leaky faucet was to
(28:48):
burn the house down. There's the fastest league of a bit,
so let's burn the damn thing down.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Which is I think I believe the word is beta.
That is a beta move by doing now the last
word quick, right, the last word here? Where do the
Knickerbockers go now to replace Tom Thibodeau, Like, what's the
chess move here?
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Now?
Speaker 1 (29:12):
You got the gambling market. The gambling market, they immediately said,
X Knicks associate coach Johnny Bryant. I don't really know
who that is, but apparently he's the darling, the next
big thing in coaching, Johnny Bryant. Bryant has been with Cleveland.
He is a finalist for the Phoenix Sun's job. Some
(29:35):
saying the reason the Knicks fired Thibodeau when they did
is because they want that guy, and to get that guy,
they had to do this because otherwise Bryant.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Would go coach the Sons and he'd be.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Out in the desert hanging out with cactus and they
didn't want that and all that stuff. The other read
on the gambling market. You got Kenny Atkinson, who's the
second choice, and he's the coach of the year who
lost to in so he knows a thing or two
about that in the playoffs. And then you've got the
usual rejects like Frank Vogel and Budenhozer and.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
The names like that.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
And then further page down, Pat Strake, Ewing, Mark Jackson,
long shots, unrealistic options, unrealistic options. And so now we
do not know, We do not know. Our crystal ball
is not working right now. We do not know who
the next coach or the Knicks is going to be,
(30:30):
but we do know what they're going to be like.
And I will gare Auntie the profile. You know how
the FBI does profiling of what they think some whack
a doodle is like, what they're like.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
So here's the profile of the next Knicks coach. Okay,
the next.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Next coach will be an innovative, offensive mind players coach
who likes drinking oat milk and hanging out doing hot yoga,
drawing up plays on his iPad while I'm doing hot yoga.
That'll be the next coach, right, the coddle coach, because
(31:10):
you go from a hard ass coach like Tom Thibodeau,
and the hard ass is relative. It's you know, it's
not that it's not a drill sergeant at Marine boot camp,
but it's it's like it's my NBA standards. So you
have a coddle coach who drives the mister softy truck.
You've got that, and that'll be somebody that comes in
here and like rub shoulders with you know, people hanging
(31:33):
out those art galleries over over and soho. You know,
the art gallery crowd and it goes to fashion Week,
you know, and dresses up as you know, Fashion East
and all that stuff. Just everything that Tom Thibodeau isn't
like he didn't Thibodau didn't care about.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
All that crap.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
He's just worried about coaching and obviously doesn't take any
pride in his personal appearance. He looks like Shrek, and
the next coach will not be that.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
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Speaker 1 (32:01):
Let's welcome in our contessants. We have we are going
to play Maus amount of money. We've got Mike in Boston.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Hello. Oh, he's boy. He's got the radio turned all
the way up. Holy crap. That's like talk radio one one.
They've had a delay and talk radio.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Since the nineteen fifties. All right, let's try are you there, Mike?
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Oh crap? All right, Well let's try Kelly in Des Moines.
Maybe that'll work.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
See Kelly in the Moinn. Hello, Kelly, Hi man, Hello, Kelly, welcome.
You're gonna play maus amount of money. Who would you
like to partner up with? Our friend Kelly?
Speaker 3 (32:38):
I'm gonna go with you, all right. We're in it
to win it, all right.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
And you're already in the league because you know that
there's a delay and you can't have your audio turned
all the way up.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
So you're in the lead. And we've got Mike in
Boss and CVS there. Hello, Mike, Hi, Sorry about that
bad job by you? All right, mikeeh, who do you
want to partner up with? Mike? All right, well you
good choice, Mike.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Picklarida. What are the categories? This go quickly, quickly, quickly, quickly.
It's Malar's Mountain of Money, gentlemen. This is the Mallards
Mount of Money, Dana Carvey edition. He turned seventy years
old on Monday.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Oh my god, no, church lady.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
All right, h the categories aren't This is spinal tap, Opportunity,
Knocks Moving, and Wayne's World. Kelly, which category would you?
Speaker 3 (33:32):
You're like? Hold on? Hold on, sake me, punch this guy?
Go ahead? Oh that's not Kelly.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Go ahead, Kelly, I would like to Wayne's World.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Wayne's Well, okay, good choice. What about you, Mike? This
is spinal tap? Okay?
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Those are the categories. Everyone, hold on, do not hang up.
We're gonna have Mallars Mount of Mine.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Who's gonna win?
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Get your bets in, Get your bets in, Go over
to DraftKings, get your bets in. We're gonna have it.
Kelly into more, she's gonna win. So she's steaming with
me and then Mike in Boston with Coop.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
We'll get to that. We will do it next.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
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the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio
dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to
listen live now Maailor's Mountain of Money? Do you have
what it takes to get to the top. Probably not.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Let's do it. Here we go. The matchup is set
Kelly in the Moines formerly in Nashville.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
She is canoodling with a fellow listening to the show
The Power Couple of Eye where she and in the
morn and Kelly, everything good with you two kids?
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Kelly, Yes, yes, it's amazing man, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Wonderful outs Masle talk all right. And Mike in Boston
is teamed up with Cooper Loop. The Dana Carvey Edition
turned seventy on Monday. And you're a first Kelly, you
Wayne's world? Is that correct?
Speaker 5 (35:02):
Correct?
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (35:03):
We got forty five seconds. These athletes have all been
considered sidekicks. We need the first and last name. Are
you ready, Kelly? Yes, all right, forty five seconds.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
We're on our way.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Go. Michael Jordan's right hand man for the Bulls, Yes,
tight end for the Patriots with Tom Brady white guy right. Yes,
running back for the Broncos. Some say he was the
sidekick to John Elway. Others say he was the main
player for those great Bronco teams.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Carl Malone's sidekick with the Utah Jazz, John Cockett. Yes,
Barry Bonds sidekick, although he won an MVP with the
San Francisco Giants. A second baseman, white guy wore a
porn mustache. Oh all right, the other wide receiver for
the forty nine ers in the eighties next to you
had Jerry Rice on one side and this guy on
(35:55):
the other.
Speaker 5 (35:58):
Come on, sorry, that was a pretty good clue.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
All right, she was Okay, I got seventy points.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
All right, Mike. You didn't get John Taylor either.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
Oh that's who was the other Terrell Davis is the
running back there, it is, thank you. Wow, it doesn't
help now, Mike, Uh, we have this is spinal tap.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
These athletes were all in a band at one point
in their life. Mike, are you ready?
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Yep?
Speaker 3 (36:36):
All right? Forty five seconds to begin.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
Super Bowl winning quarterback for the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Uh. This guy was one of the best dunkers of
his time. Started with the Raptors. He yes.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
This guy was a catcher for the Dodgers. He got
traded to the Mets.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Mike, that's correct.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
This guy was a center fielder for the Yankees in
the in the nineties when they won all their chimpions. Yes,
this guy was a linebacker for the Patriots in the
nineties and two thousands.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
White guy.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
Yes, this guy was a shortstop for a bunch of teams.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
Uh, the Indians, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
Uh. And this guy was a Hall of Fame quarterback
for the Brown Okay, all right.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
All right, what was that, Kelly? Yes, and I'm sorry,
don't break my heart. She's already apologized. Come on, how
did he get from that clue? Probably cheating? You're cheating? Okay,
(37:47):
all right.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
You just Kelly, You're losing to a guy that cloud
your category.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Kelly, opportunity knocks are moving?
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Wait? What were the options?
Speaker 4 (37:59):
I'm sorry, take your time, opportunity knocks or moving otnity?
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
These athletes all started as backups and became stars. Forty
five seconds.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
On the clock. We're on our way.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Go.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Greatest quarterback in NFL history for the Patriots. He was
a quarterback for the forty nine ers. He took a
knee during the national anthem. Yes, French point guard for
the great Spurs teams of the two thousands. Tony Kukoch now,
wow you okay? No, the Iron Horse for the Yankees.
(38:35):
He had the all time most consecutive games played until
cal Ripken broke his streak Okay White quarterback from the
eighties Giants. He replaced Phil Simms. He also had a
porn mustache and won a Super Bowl with the New
York Giants in the mid nineteen eighties or nineties early nineties.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Come on, come on, come on, you got the first
name right. It was Tony Parker, Tony Well, Tony kukok
was a player for the Bulls, but not Kelly. He
broke my heart. Kelly Surry, then lou Gerig. I'm devastated. Kelly.
You won, Mike. Now figure out the delay on your radio.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
You gotta golden, take a you gotta gold Got a
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