June 17, 2025 • 40 mins
Brian Noe fills in for Ben Maller and talks about the Thunder defeating the Pacers in Game 5 to take a 3-2 lead in the NBA Finals, Pacers coach Rick Carlisle deciding to keep Tyrese Haliburton out there late in the game despite Haliburton being hobbled with injury, and much more!
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So we begin with Game five of the NBA Finals.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Is OKC gets it done?
Speaker 5 (01:12):
They win by eleven points, final score one twenty to
one oh nine.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Thunder kneed just one more win.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
They are one win away from an NBA Championship. So
first things first, and we'll get to the controversy here shortly.
Jalen Williams was fantastic forty points for OKC. Inefficient forty points.
It's not like you're back in the day Carmelo Anthony.
Forty points where he took forty eight shots, you know,
forty points, fourteen for twenty five from the field, three
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for five from three, also sprinkled in six rebounds, four assists.
Great game for Jalen Williams. Forty Burger came up big
SGA League MVP. He was steady thirty one points, a
little more inefficient, a little inefficient, nine for twenty one,
but still thirty one, ten assists. He had zero assists
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in each of the last two games, so ten dimes
for SGA. Now we gets to the controversy. That would
be ty Reese Halliburton had a very quiet game, only
scored four points, did not hit a shot from the field,
oh for six from the floor, including zero for four
from three. He did have seven rebounds and he had
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six assists, but he tweaked his right calf and he
didn't make a shot in thirty four minutes, not one
shot from the floor, and he still played thirty four minutes.
So the controversy in the second guessing, we're looking right
at the Indiana Pacers head coach at carlysle He should
have played TJ McConnell more.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
TJ McConnell should have been.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
Getting minutes in the fourth quarter instead of Tyrese Halliburton.
Halliburton was not himself. He was banged up. He was struggling. Meanwhile,
TJ McConnell is just doing TJ McConnell things. He played right,
played for what twenty two minutes, scored eighteen points at
four assists. He was collapsing Okac's defense, he was getting
to his spots. Other guys were open because of this,
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and Rick Carlisle stuck with Haliburton. And there's popular saying
you might subscribe to this thought dance with who brng you?
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Okay, we need to amend this. You don't dance with
who brung you.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
If that guy isn't healthy enough to dance, right, you
gotta go to Plan B. I'm all for dancing with
who brung you, but if they can't hit the dance floor,
you gotta dance with somebody else. That's the way it goes,
and that's what it was in game five. And listen,
I'll meet him halfway because I can understand the thinking
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where you're like, hey, Halliburton is our guy. He's gotten
us here. Maybe he has a good fourth quarter, he's
moving around enough. You kind of just talk yourself into it,
and you're thinking, without having access to the results, you're thinking,
maybe he does turn it on. Maybe he has a
couple of assists, Maybe he has a couple of big shots.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
But that was wishful thinking.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
It just was not realistically going to happen based on
how you saw him play throughout the game. And so Carlyle,
he went with Haliburton, he danced with who brung him,
and he was let down. He was let down by Haliburton,
even though he will never say that. But he has
to be second guessing himself now that he has access
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to the results. Are you telling me, Carlyle doesn't sit
there and think, man, I should have.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Seen that coming.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
Halliburton didn't make a shot all night. Why would I
think he was all of a sudden gonna play great
in the fourth quarter. That was just not a great
decision by me. I'd be thinking those things if I
were him, He's probably thinking those exact same things. But
that was an opportunity missed. And the difference in the
game really is a couple of things. Williams who went
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for the forty piece, It was all these Pacers turnovers,
my lord. Twenty three turnovers by the Pacers led to
thirty two points for OKC.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
That is way too many turnovers.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
But do you have over twenty turnovers in a game,
especially in an NBA Finals game, and it fuels the
other team's offense. That is, you're gonna get killed just
by that alone. And then it was also a huge
run in the fourth quarter by the Thunder. So the
Pacers they trailed by eighteen points. And I call them
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the zombies of the sports world, and I mean that
in a complimentary way, where they just you think they're
dead and they just keep coming after you, like one
of those random movies where his guy's barely walk is
like and you're like, I don't have to worry about him,
and five minutes later, that guy just snuck up on
you and you're like, where did he come from?
Speaker 4 (05:58):
That's the Pacers.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
The Pacers are like a horror film where the zombies
just keep coming after you and they won't go away.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
So that's what the Pacers did. They're down by eighteen.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
They cut it to a two point deficit with eight
thirty left in the game, throwing down by two.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
And then what happened.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
There was an eighteen to four run by OKC right
after the Pacers got it down to two. Eighteen to
four run. It swung the entire game. It started with
a Jalen Williams three. Then Nemhard had a bad pass,
bad communication going on there, communication breakdown, and it led
to an easy bucket for OKC. That's what led to
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an eighteen to four run. And during that run, this
is really hideous stuff. If you're a Pacers fan, you
might start vomiting here when I go over some of
this stuff. But the Pacers committed four consecutive turnovers, four
straight possessions, four straight turnover and it led to points.
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Every time there was a bad pass by Nemhard led
to an SGA bucket and one he made the free throw.
Haliburton had a bad pass led to a Jalen Williams
layup Nemhard. Another bad pass led to free throws for
Jalen Williams. Another Haliburton bad pass. It led to SGA
free throws four consecutive turnovers in one minute of game time.
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That's the other crazy. This happened in the span of
one minute. They turned it over four times and in
that span, this is what blows my mind. OKSEE led
by only two points with eight thirty to play. OKC
then led by sixteen points with five minutes left following
that run, That's what swung the entire game. And so
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now the Pacers they lose back to back games for
the first time this postseason, and they lose back to
back games for the first time since March tenth. Think
about that, that's over three months ago. They haven't lost
back to back games a lot of those against some
of the best teams in the playoffs. Is the first
time in three months the Pacers have dropped two straight.
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Crazy stuff. And the scary thing for the Pacers in
Game six, the series has not done yet and the
rest of the league is OKAC is the youngest team
to reach the finals in forty eight years. They're a
whisker away from winning it, and they are going to
be a problem for a long time. And I'm just
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starting to get used to the NBA. This current NBA,
I think is very refreshing. This will be the seventh
straight year, whether it's OKC or Indiana spoiler alert, it's
gonna be okay see, but it's gonna be the seventh
straight year no matter who wins the finals, that we're
gonna have a champion. That's different. Seven straight years, seven different.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Champions, right. I like that. I think that's more exciting this.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
NBA, where it's like, all right, okay, see wins the
title next year?
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Who knows? Who knows gonna win a title?
Speaker 5 (09:11):
That's more interesting to me than all right, okay, see
he's trying to rattle off three championships in four years
or you know, I just the dynasty stuff and the
repeat three peat champions. I'm just not as interested. Maybe
this is because I was so burned by the Calves
and Warriors that era. When they met in the finals
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for four consecutive years, four years in a row, and
it was going into the next year, You're like, I
just wake me. When it's Caps Warriors in the finals.
You knew that was what it was gonna be. They
were so much better than the competition. I think this
current NBA is much more interesting. Seven straight years, seven
new champions and think think if there were one dominant
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team and what that would mean for the league, for
the teams that have won a championship, and the ripple
effect from that point on. If you think about these
last seven years, Kawhi Leonard won a title with the Raptors.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
They took down the Warriors. The Warriors were.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
The best candidate to continue their dynasty, but the Raptors
lucked out and the Warriors were the walking wounded. Everybody
was going down. Kde went down, Clay went down. They're
dropping like flies, injuries galore. The Raptors luck out, they
won a championship. Good for them, but it would have
changed how you thought about Kawhi.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
These teams and go for it mode.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Like the Raptors made this blockbuster move for Kawhi and
he had no interest in staying there. They still traded
for the guy. Imagine if that fizzled out, didn't work
out whatsoever. They won a title, and so other teams
saw that and they're like, oh wow, it worked out.
Let's be aggressive here. The Bucks won a championship with Giannis.
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The Nuggets wanted to championship with Jokic, Imagine if there
was a dynasty in neither of those championships happened. Imagine
if Fiannis is looking for his first ring and Jokic
is still looking for his first ring. That's all you
would hear about, and it would be nauseating. Jokich is
a three time MVP, he still hasn't won one ring.
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Blah blah blah. Lebron might not have a ring with
the Lakers. That was one of the championships in these
last seven years.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
So I don't know.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
I like the spread the wealth NBA. And because it's
been so like dynasty driven over the years. You think
about the Lakers, you know, the showtime Lakers, the nineties Bowls,
the Spurs, it's been the Celtics back in the day.
It's been so dynasty driven. I think this is a
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breath of fresh air. The NFL, it hasn't been. It's
been how could I say this. There have been dynash
but it hasn't been to the tune of NBA dynasties.
There's no NFL dynasty that won six championships in eight
years and Jordan takes off two of those years, right Like,
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that doesn't happen in the NFL. It didn't happen like
even the Spurs, like rattling off championships to that degree
like the Spurs did, it doesn't happen in the NFL
like that Steelers won four of six.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
It's probably the closest thing.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
But the point is you haven't had the same dynasties
in the NFL. And so if a quote unquote dynasty
comes along, like it's the Patriots that win three of four,
that's like a whoa, this is a huge dynasty. That's
the way it goes in the NFL. There's never been
one three peat, not one. Think about all the three
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peats in the NBA. There are way more than none
in the NBA.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
So don't I don't.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
Mind dynasties in the NFL as much like the Chiefs
were just going for a three peat. But I think
right there the Eagles winning it and spreading the wealth
a little bit, I think it's more interesting for the
league as a whole when the wealth is spread a
little bit like that. And the NBA they agree, otherwise
they wouldn't have put into place some of these rules
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and some of these things like the reworked CBA, and
they have the luxury tax and the second apron.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
You don't have to know any of this stuff. I
don't even know it.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
But all I know, and all you need to know
is if you exceed that second apron, man, you get walloped.
You get a backhand right across the face, just smackol
Like draft picks are frozen.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
There are all these penalties if you do that.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
So you can't just load up on Superstar after Superstar
and just dominate the league. The league doesn't want that,
otherwise they wouldn't have put this into place.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
I like it. I don't have an issue with it
at all.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
But the whole point of this bringing it up is that, okay,
see threatens that if you're like me, you like a
little bit more of the spreading of the wealth and
you don't like predetermined, Like, hey, wake me up, and
Okayse's back in the finals. I don't think that's interesting
at all. And I don't think they're that dominant, and
I think the West is too good for it to
be that kind of landscape. But okay, c is gonna
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be a problem for a long time, and it wouldn't
surprise me at all if they start rattling off championship
after championship. So if you like the spreading of the wealth, okay,
see threatens that, make no mistake about it. One went
away from a title could be the first of a handful. Here,
wouldn't shock me at all. All right, we are off
and running over here, man. I got some great news
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right around the corner, some fantastic news. A couple of returns.
You know, one I'm giddy about the other one. Uh,
I'm I'm excited about ish. But what one return has
to do with Doctor Dre's the Chronic album. We'll get
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to that right now around the corner. I'm Brian no
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Loraina, is this my girl? Dua lipa?
Speaker 2 (15:52):
You know it is?
Speaker 5 (15:54):
I saw the other day. You might know this here
on top of current events, she's engaged.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
My heart is broken. No, engaged behind my back? Oh
my gosh.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Doesn't it make you nauseous?
Speaker 4 (16:09):
It does.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
I'm completely nauseous right now. I couldn't even eat the
last couple of days.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
That's what heartbreak feels like.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
It's exactly what it feels like. You know, it's you
just you're moping around, like why even go on? What's
the point? That's how I feel. I don't even know
who this guy is. Have you heard about this?
Speaker 4 (16:28):
This news to you?
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Arene?
Speaker 2 (16:29):
I had no idea.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (16:31):
Yeah, she's dated a couple boys recently, so oh really,
let's see if this one sticks.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
That's bad when it's like I'm engaged and you're like,
let's see if.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
This works out.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
I'm not convinced yet, but I get it. I get it.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
I might be hoping for a breakup.
Speaker 6 (16:49):
It might be that'll make you feel better. Look at
you manifesting that. I thought that was only me who
does that.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
No, you're not alone in that.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
Great news here. So we have two comebacks one Joey Chestnut,
the goat that is right, the competitive eating legend. He
announced on Monday that he is returning to the Nathan's
Famous hot Dog eating contest. I don't even know why
they had an event last year. It's not even worth
doing without Joey Chestnut. When he's back, he's back on
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the prow. He missed last year's event because of a
dispute with you can't make this up.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
This sounds like something from the Onion. So there was
a dispute.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Last year with Major League Eating. It's really a thing,
oh the mL Oh yeah, Major League Eating. They were
bent because he has a sponsorship deal with Impossible Foods.
That's a company that makes plant based hot dogs, and
so Major League Eating was like, what plant based? What
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the hell? So yeah, apparently, yeah, I don't want that.
But Joe Chestnut was like, yeah, I'll take your money
if you want me to be a spokesman.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
I guess sure, sounds good to me. But he said
that he continues.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
To partner with companies in the plant based space, like
Impossible Foods, but those relationship relationships never conflicted with his
love for hot dogs.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
He's like, don't get it twisted.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
Just because I'm promoting this plant based hot dog company
doesn't mean I've lost my love for true hot dogs
over here, all right, don't get that twisted.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
So he's setting the record straight.
Speaker 7 (18:31):
Well, Emily is a notoriously. I guess what's the word
I'm looking for. Not stingy, but overbearing with their athletes
and their sponsorship deals. Okay, they're athletes. That's a word. Well,
I mean that's why what's his name stopped?
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Oh my god? Oh is it the dude that beat
Joey the one year Look?
Speaker 7 (19:01):
He was he was the king of the hot dog Yes,
Kobyashi before Joey Chestnut and Kobyashi got banned from the
hot dog contest like you know, towards the you know,
towards the beginning of Joey Chestnut's rise to fame. Because
Kobyashi was doing other non sanctioned eating contests.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
Uh huh, And mL is like, wait a minute, we
own you, yes exactly.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Wait, so he was doing like backdoor poker of hot
dog eating.
Speaker 7 (19:35):
Yeah, basically, yeah, underground eating contest.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
That's right, that's fantastic.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
They're like, how dare you make a buck on your
own time?
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yep?
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Yeah, overbearing. I like that, very stingy. But Joey Chestnut
is such a legend, sixteen time champion of the Fourth
of July Hot Dog Eating Contest, that the mL E
they had to buckle, they had to rethink their ways. Huh,
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like it's not worth it is not what.
Speaker 7 (20:07):
I probably saw the ratings of the last year's hot
dog Eating Contest.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
They're like, five people watched, we gotta get Joey back
in here.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Come on, they made it happen.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
The first time I watched that, I remember it was
like a Fourth of July party and I was I
was kind of young, and I was like, is this
really happening right now?
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Someone's got a puke, Someone's gonna puke, like, you know.
The only thing I could think the whole time.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
That's my favorite thing about this stuff is the way
they describe it. It's not that they do it, because
that's disgusting, but they're not like, oh, he's vomiting right now.
They call it loraina. They call it a reversal. That's
their description for it. Yeah, they're like, oh, it looks
like uh Joey might have had a reversal, right there,
that's okay.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Goodness, Yeah, yeah, that's what they call it. That's uh.
That's kind of like the hot.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
Dog eating world's version of what horse racing calls euthanasia
or no, no, what euthanized? Sorry, not euthanasia. They call it
euthanized and you're like.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
What the hell is that? It means?
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Uh, there was a horse that had an injury and
they had to put it out of its misery.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
That's really what it means. They had to kill the
horse dead, and I.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Feel like, once it comes back, you can't stop it.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
Yeah, it's uh youth. He was euthanized on the track.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Oh wow, youth?
Speaker 5 (21:26):
Was that you get like a shoulder rubber? There was
that like a little massage? No, no, he was It
was some lethal injection basically, Yeah, brutal. Another comeback Coop's
former guy, you know when he pitched for the Angels
and starred for the Angels show. Hey, Otani is back
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on the bump pitching for the La Dodgers.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
He made his return It's.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
Been six hundred and sixty three days since show Hey
last pitched in a Big league game. That's right, the
last time show Hey was pitching, he was in an
Angel's uniform. It was way back in August of twenty
twenty three. That's when he got banged up, and so
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he had surgery that September to reconstruct the ligament in
his right elbow. Since then, he just joined the Dodgers,
won NL MVP, earned a World Series ring light work.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
It's like, do you realize how.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
Legendary show Hey Otani is? That is what I was
thinking about today. He's back pitching now. He wasn't pitching
for the last you know, two years ish and as
he just went out there and won League MVP and
won a World Series ring, hitting home runs left and right.
Like that's him rehabbing. He's doing all that while rehabbing,
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just so he can pitch. Also, it's insane. I don't
know why it popped.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
In my mind.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
I don't know what I was watching years and years ago.
Might have been MTV at the time, who knows. You
ever scroll through the channels and see what's on MTV
and you're like, wow, I remember when I watched MTV.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Yes all, I just had this conversation yesterday. Right, yeah,
I love the music videos.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
I miss the music videos. But now I'll just see
whatever show. It's all shows, right, It'll be some newer
show and it'll be titled something, and I'm like, I
have no idea what any of this is anymore. I
used to watch that all the time. Headbanger's Ball was amazing.
Our little section metal videos actually got airplay.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
It was beautiful.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
But now they don't mess with videos anyway. It might
have been MTV back in the day, but I remember
Eminem talking about Doctor Dre's album The Chronic and at
one point he was like, do you realize what you're
listening to?
Speaker 4 (23:50):
He said it just like you realize what you're listening
to right now. That's how I feel about show.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
Hey, Otani, when I'm watching this, dude, I feel like,
do you realize what you're watching? Do you just realize
what's going on in front of your eyes and living color?
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Right now?
Speaker 5 (24:08):
This is the best baseball player of all time? Now,
I think best and greatest can vary. I think to
be the greatest that Now you're talking like the accomplishments department,
and he's he's well decorated already, multi time League MVP,
World Series Champion. If he starts adding to that, adding
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to that, it's going to be indisputable that he's also
the greatest baseball player of all time.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
But make no mistake, he's the best already.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
This dude is a phenomenal hitter, a very good pitcher,
and he's just now getting back to pitching. So on
Monday night he threw just one inning. This is light work.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
This was the plan. Just ease him in, ease him in.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
So we got a little bit of a freshly cut
audio for you. Here's how it sounded with show Hayes
first pitch on the LA Dodgers Radio Network Shore.
Speaker 8 (25:04):
Hey Otani is on a big league bump. He's into
his wine up and his very first pitch as a Dodger.
His chop foul by Fernando Tatis Junior, strike one has
us underway.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
I kind of thought would be funny if it was
a ball. I didn't know what the pitch was, so
has he. It's being described an AM five seventy LA
Dodgers Radio Network.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
I'm like, and here we go. Here's the first pitch.
And it is low and outside. All right, but he's back.
But he's back. Now it's a.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
Foul ball, but you know, okay, okay, work, light work,
but just okay for show Hey on the bump, Tatis
Junior hit a leadoff single, a little blooper that dropped.
Then there was a wild pitch from Otani. Then a
rise singled and got runners at the corners. Machado with
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a sack fly so Otani got the next two batters
to ground out, but just one ending pitch, gave up
two hits, one earned run through twenty eight pitches as
the Dodgers ease him back in here. But this dude
with over two hundred and fifty home runs already, and
he's back to pitching like it's just like his side hustle.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
His pitching. That's insanity, and the.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
Dodgers need him, make no mistake about it. They again,
the injuries to this starting staff in this rotation, it's crazy,
the amount of pitchers that they've had dinged up. So
to get show Hey O Tani back as they ease him.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
In, that's a big deal for the Dodgers. And uh
the hitting. Oh, by the way, you're.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
Right like now, that he's pitching in the hittings like, oh,
by the way, he was two for four, hit a double,
two RBIs walked, light work. You know, just three total bases, yawn,
two ribbys, No big deal. This freaking guy is amazing
and it's funny too. On the same day that show,
Heyo Tani returned to pitching. His ex interpreter is in
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federal prison. That's a truth or EPAI miss you miss you?
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Hora?
Speaker 5 (27:02):
Is that he say it? Epay is something like that.
Epay's in jail. That's all you need to know. Epay
is in the federal pen and he's in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Is that where the pen originated?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Oh, in Pennsylvania?
Speaker 4 (27:18):
That would ends right, right?
Speaker 5 (27:20):
Is it the penn pen if you're in the pen
in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
I don't know. I don't know. I doubt that's the
the slang.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Do you think he still calls him?
Speaker 5 (27:29):
No, I mean he paid my he paid my call
show hey, and show Ay is like, yeah, I'm not
answering that call. I could see Epay like, hey, you know,
I just wanted to apologize for the five thousand time.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Hope you're doing well.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
I heard that you're pitching again and everything's going great.
You probably don't want to hear from me, it all.
It'd be funny if he just calls him up in
rambles for no good reason. You know, but you might
be on a cold streak. If you're a sport's better
and you've been on a recent cold streak, this will
probably make you feel better, so miss Uhara. He admitted
that he placed about nineteen thousand bets with a bookie
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over a two year period, and he accumulated over forty
million dollars in debt.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Oh my goodness, that's what.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
Led to him getting busted. He's sentenced to fifty seven
months in prison for stealing nearly seventeen million dollars from
my time.
Speaker 6 (28:25):
That actually, that is a doable crime sentence, right, less
than five years for that? Yeah, I think I could
do that. Can I bid you money in an offshore
account and no one touch it?
Speaker 4 (28:37):
You think you sign up for a five year stint
just today?
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Like, yeah, I can knock that out. He didn't sound
too bad.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
I would not want to do that at all, but
I hear you, it's better than being away for two
decades or whatever. I don't know what the maximum sentence
could have been. But yeah, that's I have so many
questions with this and ESPN did a great job. Bet
like this, this was an ESPN investigation that revealed all
of this, the wire transfers from Otani's accounts to an
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illegal bookmaker.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
I bet when when Epay hears just like.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
The dad, he's like he got found out because of
this ESPN investigation, I would feel that way, my lord.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
But even the FBI, Yeah, right, ESPN investigation, that's trash.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
I want to know who.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
I gotta do a little bit of reason, Mark, whoever
that was, you suck man.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
I got to find out who was on the prowle
in this thing, and that's great investigative work. But man,
if you're an EPAY, you probably have a different perspective
on that whole thing. Man, oh Man, I don't know.
Tisha Thompson. I remember her name. She was one of
the main investigators because I remember her talking about this,
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so I know she was part of it.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
I don't know if it was a crew.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
You're talking about major legwork to uncover all this stuff,
and they did, and there were so many theories at
the time. At the time, immediately I thought Epe is
the fall Guy show. Hey, is Jennifer right this jackass? Bet?
I don't think that's the case at all. I think
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Ipe was just a grade A jackass who was betting
hundreds of thousands of dollars, ran up a tab that
was near forty million dollars.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
I think this is all Epe.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
I don't I take back my fall guy stuff.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Altogether.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
They had wire taps, and there's just it's not believable
that he's a fall guy. He's just a jackass. As
it turns out, that's what he is. I wonder, how
do you run up a tab for over forty million
dollars and only deal seventeen million dollars from Otani and.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
Still have your arms and legs? You know.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
That's the other part of it was this just like hey,
I'm good for like seventeen, and the illegal bookmakers like,
all right, we'll call it good for now. I would
love to hear all those conversations during that time.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
I just think it's crazy.
Speaker 6 (31:17):
It's not even hundreds or thousands or hundreds of thousands, right, millions.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Forty million dollars?
Speaker 5 (31:24):
What there were like text messages exchanged. I remember when
the story broke and one of them. Epay was talking
to one of the dudes connected to the illegal book maker,
and he was just like, I am not good at
this at all, and he just kept betting. He knew
he sucked at it, and yet he's still I don't know.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
I was just hoping it would work out.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
It's kind of like Rick Carlisle hoping it would work
out with Tyrese Haliburton's calf injury in Game five. You
know that's probably a bad comparison, but the connection is
just blind hope. Epay is like, Man, I lost a
couple of million over the weekend or whatever it was.
I'll just keep firing away. Not my money, what do
I care, right, just trying to get out of trying
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to get out of the red.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Next time, I'm gonna hit it.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Yeah, next time I'm.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Doing I'm gonna hit it.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
I'm due one of these times, right, one of these times.
It's going my way.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
I'll tell you what, I've lost many sports bets over
the years, and I feel good about not running up
a tab even close to forty million dollars, I'll tell
you that. And I wasn't stealing money from someone else
who's way more wealthy than I am. But still, you know,
it does make me feel a little bit better. It
changes my perspective slightly over lost bets over the years.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
That's amazing. I hope there's a.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
Thirty for thirty on this whole thing in the not
too distant future. There's got to be. Have you seen
some of those Netflix documentaries. Some of them are pretty good.
I saw the the Johnny Football one. I saw the
Brett Favre one that was okay.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
I hope he tells his story. I want to know.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
I would I would love.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
If they could get both show Hay and epay and
the Dodgers and the Illegal book Maker. Now we got
something cooking here. My guess is I could get show
Hey show A. He's all about head down right, like,
I don't want any distractions. I don't want any of
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my business out there. Remember show Hey's famous for not
wanting to reveal his dog's name.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
That was a real story at the time there.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
I think he was being announced as the nl MVP,
and it might have been a zoom call or something
like that, and they're like, oh, who's the cute dog,
and show Hey's like, you know, back to business. They
asked me baseball questions. He didn't want to reveal the
dog's name. That's how private show he is. He's not
going to be in a documentary anytime soon, but.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
If no one know that he was engaged either or.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
Yeah right, yeah, you're right. He tried to keep that
total under wraps. Yep, no doubt.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
But I'd be cool.
Speaker 5 (34:05):
With epay, illegal bookmaker. Maybe the Dodgers. We still got
a good documentary cooking with that. You know, let's put
epay and you know, like the orange jumpsuit, let's really
do it. Let's put them in handcuffs. You know, let's
really do this thing up here with this interview. I
think we got something in the works here. I hope
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team that's just dumb. That would be your Cincinnati Bengals.
My gosh, I don't understand why some teams just insist
on making life harder on themselves. Like life is hard
enough as a team in the AFC. You got a
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lot to compete against. You got the Chiefs, you got
the Ravens, you got a lot in your way, And
the Bengals are like, you know what, let's just make
things more difficult on ourselves.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
So the Bengals stop me, if you've heard this.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
They are involved in a contract dispute their first round pick,
Shamar Stewart, defensive lineman. He held out a mini camp
due to this dispute. Now you might be thinking, hey,
there's this rookie wage scale. The money is slotted, it's
predetermined what these rookies will make. It's like, yeah, all
(37:37):
of that is true, but that's not slowing down the
bozo Bengals over here. They're arguing about contract language. So
I read this nineteen times to try to understand, Like,
what are they actually going for the even what's the
goal here? So the Bengals want to include a clause
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that could void future gear guaranteed money in the event
of a default.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
Now what does that mean?
Speaker 5 (38:06):
This could include suspensions for on field or off field conduct. Okay,
if our guy Shamar Stewart gets suspended because he does
something bad off the field or he does something crazy
on the field, the Bengals are like, well, we don't
want to be on the hook for any guaranteed money.
The obvious question would be, well, then why the hell
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they draft this guy in the first place, right, Like,
if this is such a concern, why did you pick him?
Because they're the Bengals. The other part is. The Bengals
are also trying to protect themselves. If Shamar isn't available
down the road due to injury, well then you can
play this game like okay, Well, then why isn't every
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team in the league trying to do the same thing,
because they aren't dumb like the Bengals are. Bengals are
trying to avoid future guarantees in the contract, which is
unprecedented in the rookie wage scale.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
It's like these rookies are slotted.
Speaker 5 (39:11):
To make X amount of money, and the cheap ass
Bengals are like, hey, if we could sort of kind
of finagle our way out of this future guaranteed money
just in case this might happen, What are you doing?
Speaker 4 (39:28):
What are you doing? My lord?
Speaker 5 (39:31):
I some of these franchises and they still haven't signed
Trey Hendrickson. He's not gonna play on the last year
of his deal. He's made that clear. All he did
last season was lead the league in sacks. Fantastic defensive player.
He's due to make sixteen million dollars this fall in
his current deal, which is peanuts compared to the top
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defensive players, and the Bengals.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
Are like, hey, why don't we sign T.
Speaker 5 (39:57):
Higgins to a huge contract even though we're paying Joe
Burr and Jamar Chase, and now we have to have
to skimp on Hendrickson, and now I have to try
to avoid future guaranteed money with Jamar Stewart. They're dumb.
The Bengals are just dumb. I don't know how else
to say it. They just are all.
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So we begin with Game five of the NBA Finals.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Is OKC gets it done?
Speaker 5 (01:12):
They win by eleven points, final score one twenty to
one oh nine.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Thunder kneed just one more win.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
They are one win away from an NBA Championship. So
first things first, and we'll get to the controversy here shortly.
Jalen Williams was fantastic forty points for OKC. Inefficient forty points.
It's not like you're back in the day Carmelo Anthony.
Forty points where he took forty eight shots, you know,
forty points, fourteen for twenty five from the field, three
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for five from three, also sprinkled in six rebounds, four assists.
Great game for Jalen Williams. Forty Burger came up big
SGA League MVP. He was steady thirty one points, a
little more inefficient, a little inefficient, nine for twenty one,
but still thirty one, ten assists. He had zero assists
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in each of the last two games, so ten dimes
for SGA. Now we gets to the controversy. That would
be ty Reese Halliburton had a very quiet game, only
scored four points, did not hit a shot from the field,
oh for six from the floor, including zero for four
from three. He did have seven rebounds and he had
(02:24):
six assists, but he tweaked his right calf and he
didn't make a shot in thirty four minutes, not one
shot from the floor, and he still played thirty four minutes.
So the controversy in the second guessing, we're looking right
at the Indiana Pacers head coach at carlysle He should
have played TJ McConnell more.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
TJ McConnell should have been.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
Getting minutes in the fourth quarter instead of Tyrese Halliburton.
Halliburton was not himself. He was banged up. He was struggling. Meanwhile,
TJ McConnell is just doing TJ McConnell things. He played right,
played for what twenty two minutes, scored eighteen points at
four assists. He was collapsing Okac's defense, he was getting
to his spots. Other guys were open because of this,
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and Rick Carlisle stuck with Haliburton. And there's popular saying
you might subscribe to this thought dance with who brng you?
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Okay, we need to amend this. You don't dance with
who brung you.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
If that guy isn't healthy enough to dance, right, you
gotta go to Plan B. I'm all for dancing with
who brung you, but if they can't hit the dance floor,
you gotta dance with somebody else. That's the way it goes,
and that's what it was in game five. And listen,
I'll meet him halfway because I can understand the thinking
(03:48):
where you're like, hey, Halliburton is our guy. He's gotten
us here. Maybe he has a good fourth quarter, he's
moving around enough. You kind of just talk yourself into it,
and you're thinking, without having access to the results, you're thinking,
maybe he does turn it on. Maybe he has a
couple of assists, Maybe he has a couple of big shots.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
But that was wishful thinking.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
It just was not realistically going to happen based on
how you saw him play throughout the game. And so Carlyle,
he went with Haliburton, he danced with who brung him,
and he was let down. He was let down by Haliburton,
even though he will never say that. But he has
to be second guessing himself now that he has access
(04:34):
to the results. Are you telling me, Carlyle doesn't sit
there and think, man, I should have.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Seen that coming.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
Halliburton didn't make a shot all night. Why would I
think he was all of a sudden gonna play great
in the fourth quarter. That was just not a great
decision by me. I'd be thinking those things if I
were him, He's probably thinking those exact same things. But
that was an opportunity missed. And the difference in the
game really is a couple of things. Williams who went
(05:01):
for the forty piece, It was all these Pacers turnovers,
my lord. Twenty three turnovers by the Pacers led to
thirty two points for OKC.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
That is way too many turnovers.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
But do you have over twenty turnovers in a game,
especially in an NBA Finals game, and it fuels the
other team's offense. That is, you're gonna get killed just
by that alone. And then it was also a huge
run in the fourth quarter by the Thunder. So the
Pacers they trailed by eighteen points. And I call them
(05:38):
the zombies of the sports world, and I mean that
in a complimentary way, where they just you think they're
dead and they just keep coming after you, like one
of those random movies where his guy's barely walk is
like and you're like, I don't have to worry about him,
and five minutes later, that guy just snuck up on
you and you're like, where did he come from?
Speaker 4 (05:58):
That's the Pacers.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
The Pacers are like a horror film where the zombies
just keep coming after you and they won't go away.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
So that's what the Pacers did. They're down by eighteen.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
They cut it to a two point deficit with eight
thirty left in the game, throwing down by two.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
And then what happened.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
There was an eighteen to four run by OKC right
after the Pacers got it down to two. Eighteen to
four run. It swung the entire game. It started with
a Jalen Williams three. Then Nemhard had a bad pass,
bad communication going on there, communication breakdown, and it led
to an easy bucket for OKC. That's what led to
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an eighteen to four run. And during that run, this
is really hideous stuff. If you're a Pacers fan, you
might start vomiting here when I go over some of
this stuff. But the Pacers committed four consecutive turnovers, four
straight possessions, four straight turnover and it led to points.
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Every time there was a bad pass by Nemhard led
to an SGA bucket and one he made the free throw.
Haliburton had a bad pass led to a Jalen Williams
layup Nemhard. Another bad pass led to free throws for
Jalen Williams. Another Haliburton bad pass. It led to SGA
free throws four consecutive turnovers in one minute of game time.
(07:26):
That's the other crazy. This happened in the span of
one minute. They turned it over four times and in
that span, this is what blows my mind. OKSEE led
by only two points with eight thirty to play. OKC
then led by sixteen points with five minutes left following
that run, That's what swung the entire game. And so
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now the Pacers they lose back to back games for
the first time this postseason, and they lose back to
back games for the first time since March tenth. Think
about that, that's over three months ago. They haven't lost
back to back games a lot of those against some
of the best teams in the playoffs. Is the first
time in three months the Pacers have dropped two straight.
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Crazy stuff. And the scary thing for the Pacers in
Game six, the series has not done yet and the
rest of the league is OKAC is the youngest team
to reach the finals in forty eight years. They're a
whisker away from winning it, and they are going to
be a problem for a long time. And I'm just
(08:37):
starting to get used to the NBA. This current NBA,
I think is very refreshing. This will be the seventh
straight year, whether it's OKC or Indiana spoiler alert, it's
gonna be okay see, but it's gonna be the seventh
straight year no matter who wins the finals, that we're
gonna have a champion. That's different. Seven straight years, seven different.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Champions, right. I like that. I think that's more exciting this.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
NBA, where it's like, all right, okay, see wins the
title next year?
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Who knows? Who knows gonna win a title?
Speaker 5 (09:11):
That's more interesting to me than all right, okay, see
he's trying to rattle off three championships in four years
or you know, I just the dynasty stuff and the
repeat three peat champions. I'm just not as interested. Maybe
this is because I was so burned by the Calves
and Warriors that era. When they met in the finals
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for four consecutive years, four years in a row, and
it was going into the next year, You're like, I
just wake me. When it's Caps Warriors in the finals.
You knew that was what it was gonna be. They
were so much better than the competition. I think this
current NBA is much more interesting. Seven straight years, seven
new champions and think think if there were one dominant
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team and what that would mean for the league, for
the teams that have won a championship, and the ripple
effect from that point on. If you think about these
last seven years, Kawhi Leonard won a title with the Raptors.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
They took down the Warriors. The Warriors were.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
The best candidate to continue their dynasty, but the Raptors
lucked out and the Warriors were the walking wounded. Everybody
was going down. Kde went down, Clay went down. They're
dropping like flies, injuries galore. The Raptors luck out, they
won a championship. Good for them, but it would have
changed how you thought about Kawhi.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
These teams and go for it mode.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Like the Raptors made this blockbuster move for Kawhi and
he had no interest in staying there. They still traded
for the guy. Imagine if that fizzled out, didn't work
out whatsoever. They won a title, and so other teams
saw that and they're like, oh wow, it worked out.
Let's be aggressive here. The Bucks won a championship with Giannis.
(10:59):
The Nuggets wanted to championship with Jokic, Imagine if there
was a dynasty in neither of those championships happened. Imagine
if Fiannis is looking for his first ring and Jokic
is still looking for his first ring. That's all you
would hear about, and it would be nauseating. Jokich is
a three time MVP, he still hasn't won one ring.
(11:19):
Blah blah blah. Lebron might not have a ring with
the Lakers. That was one of the championships in these
last seven years.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
So I don't know.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
I like the spread the wealth NBA. And because it's
been so like dynasty driven over the years. You think
about the Lakers, you know, the showtime Lakers, the nineties Bowls,
the Spurs, it's been the Celtics back in the day.
It's been so dynasty driven. I think this is a
(11:50):
breath of fresh air. The NFL, it hasn't been. It's
been how could I say this. There have been dynash
but it hasn't been to the tune of NBA dynasties.
There's no NFL dynasty that won six championships in eight
years and Jordan takes off two of those years, right Like,
(12:11):
that doesn't happen in the NFL. It didn't happen like
even the Spurs, like rattling off championships to that degree
like the Spurs did, it doesn't happen in the NFL
like that Steelers won four of six.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
It's probably the closest thing.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
But the point is you haven't had the same dynasties
in the NFL. And so if a quote unquote dynasty
comes along, like it's the Patriots that win three of four,
that's like a whoa, this is a huge dynasty. That's
the way it goes in the NFL. There's never been
one three peat, not one. Think about all the three
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peats in the NBA. There are way more than none
in the NBA.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
So don't I don't.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
Mind dynasties in the NFL as much like the Chiefs
were just going for a three peat. But I think
right there the Eagles winning it and spreading the wealth
a little bit, I think it's more interesting for the
league as a whole when the wealth is spread a
little bit like that. And the NBA they agree, otherwise
they wouldn't have put into place some of these rules
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and some of these things like the reworked CBA, and
they have the luxury tax and the second apron.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
You don't have to know any of this stuff. I
don't even know it.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
But all I know, and all you need to know
is if you exceed that second apron, man, you get walloped.
You get a backhand right across the face, just smackol
Like draft picks are frozen.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
There are all these penalties if you do that.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
So you can't just load up on Superstar after Superstar
and just dominate the league. The league doesn't want that,
otherwise they wouldn't have put this into place.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
I like it. I don't have an issue with it
at all.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
But the whole point of this bringing it up is that, okay,
see threatens that if you're like me, you like a
little bit more of the spreading of the wealth and
you don't like predetermined, Like, hey, wake me up, and
Okayse's back in the finals. I don't think that's interesting
at all. And I don't think they're that dominant, and
I think the West is too good for it to
be that kind of landscape. But okay, c is gonna
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be a problem for a long time, and it wouldn't
surprise me at all if they start rattling off championship
after championship. So if you like the spreading of the wealth, okay,
see threatens that, make no mistake about it. One went
away from a title could be the first of a handful. Here,
wouldn't shock me at all. All right, we are off
and running over here, man. I got some great news
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Loraina, is this my girl? Dua lipa?
Speaker 2 (15:52):
You know it is?
Speaker 5 (15:54):
I saw the other day. You might know this here
on top of current events, she's engaged.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
My heart is broken. No, engaged behind my back? Oh
my gosh.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Doesn't it make you nauseous?
Speaker 4 (16:09):
It does.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
I'm completely nauseous right now. I couldn't even eat the
last couple of days.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
That's what heartbreak feels like.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
It's exactly what it feels like. You know, it's you
just you're moping around, like why even go on? What's
the point? That's how I feel. I don't even know
who this guy is. Have you heard about this?
Speaker 4 (16:28):
This news to you?
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Arene?
Speaker 2 (16:29):
I had no idea.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (16:31):
Yeah, she's dated a couple boys recently, so oh really,
let's see if this one sticks.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
That's bad when it's like I'm engaged and you're like,
let's see if.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
This works out.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
I'm not convinced yet, but I get it. I get it.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
I might be hoping for a breakup.
Speaker 6 (16:49):
It might be that'll make you feel better. Look at
you manifesting that. I thought that was only me who
does that.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
No, you're not alone in that.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
Great news here. So we have two comebacks one Joey Chestnut,
the goat that is right, the competitive eating legend. He
announced on Monday that he is returning to the Nathan's
Famous hot Dog eating contest. I don't even know why
they had an event last year. It's not even worth
doing without Joey Chestnut. When he's back, he's back on
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the prow. He missed last year's event because of a
dispute with you can't make this up.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
This sounds like something from the Onion. So there was
a dispute.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Last year with Major League Eating. It's really a thing,
oh the mL Oh yeah, Major League Eating. They were
bent because he has a sponsorship deal with Impossible Foods.
That's a company that makes plant based hot dogs, and
so Major League Eating was like, what plant based? What
(17:53):
the hell? So yeah, apparently, yeah, I don't want that.
But Joe Chestnut was like, yeah, I'll take your money
if you want me to be a spokesman.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
I guess sure, sounds good to me. But he said
that he continues.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
To partner with companies in the plant based space, like
Impossible Foods, but those relationship relationships never conflicted with his
love for hot dogs.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
He's like, don't get it twisted.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
Just because I'm promoting this plant based hot dog company
doesn't mean I've lost my love for true hot dogs
over here, all right, don't get that twisted.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
So he's setting the record straight.
Speaker 7 (18:31):
Well, Emily is a notoriously. I guess what's the word
I'm looking for. Not stingy, but overbearing with their athletes
and their sponsorship deals. Okay, they're athletes. That's a word. Well,
I mean that's why what's his name stopped?
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Oh my god? Oh is it the dude that beat
Joey the one year Look?
Speaker 7 (19:01):
He was he was the king of the hot dog Yes,
Kobyashi before Joey Chestnut and Kobyashi got banned from the
hot dog contest like you know, towards the you know,
towards the beginning of Joey Chestnut's rise to fame. Because
Kobyashi was doing other non sanctioned eating contests.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
Uh huh, And mL is like, wait a minute, we
own you, yes exactly.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Wait, so he was doing like backdoor poker of hot
dog eating.
Speaker 7 (19:35):
Yeah, basically, yeah, underground eating contest.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
That's right, that's fantastic.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
They're like, how dare you make a buck on your
own time?
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yep?
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Yeah, overbearing. I like that, very stingy. But Joey Chestnut
is such a legend, sixteen time champion of the Fourth
of July Hot Dog Eating Contest, that the mL E
they had to buckle, they had to rethink their ways. Huh,
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like it's not worth it is not what.
Speaker 7 (20:07):
I probably saw the ratings of the last year's hot
dog Eating Contest.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
They're like, five people watched, we gotta get Joey back
in here.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Come on, they made it happen.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
The first time I watched that, I remember it was
like a Fourth of July party and I was I
was kind of young, and I was like, is this
really happening right now?
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Someone's got a puke, Someone's gonna puke, like, you know.
The only thing I could think the whole time.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
That's my favorite thing about this stuff is the way
they describe it. It's not that they do it, because
that's disgusting, but they're not like, oh, he's vomiting right now.
They call it loraina. They call it a reversal. That's
their description for it. Yeah, they're like, oh, it looks
like uh Joey might have had a reversal, right there,
that's okay.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Goodness, Yeah, yeah, that's what they call it. That's uh.
That's kind of like the hot.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
Dog eating world's version of what horse racing calls euthanasia
or no, no, what euthanized? Sorry, not euthanasia. They call it
euthanized and you're like.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
What the hell is that? It means?
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Uh, there was a horse that had an injury and
they had to put it out of its misery.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
That's really what it means. They had to kill the
horse dead, and I.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Feel like, once it comes back, you can't stop it.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
Yeah, it's uh youth. He was euthanized on the track.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Oh wow, youth?
Speaker 5 (21:26):
Was that you get like a shoulder rubber? There was
that like a little massage? No, no, he was It
was some lethal injection basically, Yeah, brutal. Another comeback Coop's
former guy, you know when he pitched for the Angels
and starred for the Angels show. Hey, Otani is back
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on the bump pitching for the La Dodgers.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
He made his return It's.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
Been six hundred and sixty three days since show Hey
last pitched in a Big league game. That's right, the
last time show Hey was pitching, he was in an
Angel's uniform. It was way back in August of twenty
twenty three. That's when he got banged up, and so
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he had surgery that September to reconstruct the ligament in
his right elbow. Since then, he just joined the Dodgers,
won NL MVP, earned a World Series ring light work.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
It's like, do you realize how.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
Legendary show Hey Otani is? That is what I was
thinking about today. He's back pitching now. He wasn't pitching
for the last you know, two years ish and as
he just went out there and won League MVP and
won a World Series ring, hitting home runs left and right.
Like that's him rehabbing. He's doing all that while rehabbing,
(22:51):
just so he can pitch. Also, it's insane. I don't
know why it popped.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
In my mind.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
I don't know what I was watching years and years ago.
Might have been MTV at the time, who knows. You
ever scroll through the channels and see what's on MTV
and you're like, wow, I remember when I watched MTV.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Yes all, I just had this conversation yesterday. Right, yeah,
I love the music videos.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
I miss the music videos. But now I'll just see
whatever show. It's all shows, right, It'll be some newer
show and it'll be titled something, and I'm like, I
have no idea what any of this is anymore. I
used to watch that all the time. Headbanger's Ball was amazing.
Our little section metal videos actually got airplay.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
It was beautiful.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
But now they don't mess with videos anyway. It might
have been MTV back in the day, but I remember
Eminem talking about Doctor Dre's album The Chronic and at
one point he was like, do you realize what you're
listening to?
Speaker 4 (23:50):
He said it just like you realize what you're listening
to right now. That's how I feel about show.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
Hey, Otani, when I'm watching this, dude, I feel like,
do you realize what you're watching? Do you just realize
what's going on in front of your eyes and living color?
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Right now?
Speaker 5 (24:08):
This is the best baseball player of all time? Now,
I think best and greatest can vary. I think to
be the greatest that Now you're talking like the accomplishments department,
and he's he's well decorated already, multi time League MVP,
World Series Champion. If he starts adding to that, adding
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to that, it's going to be indisputable that he's also
the greatest baseball player of all time.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
But make no mistake, he's the best already.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
This dude is a phenomenal hitter, a very good pitcher,
and he's just now getting back to pitching. So on
Monday night he threw just one inning. This is light work.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
This was the plan. Just ease him in, ease him in.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
So we got a little bit of a freshly cut
audio for you. Here's how it sounded with show Hayes
first pitch on the LA Dodgers Radio Network Shore.
Speaker 8 (25:04):
Hey Otani is on a big league bump. He's into
his wine up and his very first pitch as a Dodger.
His chop foul by Fernando Tatis Junior, strike one has
us underway.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
I kind of thought would be funny if it was
a ball. I didn't know what the pitch was, so
has he. It's being described an AM five seventy LA
Dodgers Radio Network.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
I'm like, and here we go. Here's the first pitch.
And it is low and outside. All right, but he's back.
But he's back. Now it's a.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
Foul ball, but you know, okay, okay, work, light work,
but just okay for show Hey on the bump, Tatis
Junior hit a leadoff single, a little blooper that dropped.
Then there was a wild pitch from Otani. Then a
rise singled and got runners at the corners. Machado with
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a sack fly so Otani got the next two batters
to ground out, but just one ending pitch, gave up
two hits, one earned run through twenty eight pitches as
the Dodgers ease him back in here. But this dude
with over two hundred and fifty home runs already, and
he's back to pitching like it's just like his side hustle.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
His pitching. That's insanity, and the.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
Dodgers need him, make no mistake about it. They again,
the injuries to this starting staff in this rotation, it's crazy,
the amount of pitchers that they've had dinged up. So
to get show Hey O Tani back as they ease him.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
In, that's a big deal for the Dodgers. And uh
the hitting. Oh, by the way, you're.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
Right like now, that he's pitching in the hittings like, oh,
by the way, he was two for four, hit a double,
two RBIs walked, light work. You know, just three total bases, yawn,
two ribbys, No big deal. This freaking guy is amazing
and it's funny too. On the same day that show,
Heyo Tani returned to pitching. His ex interpreter is in
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federal prison. That's a truth or EPAI miss you miss you?
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Hora?
Speaker 5 (27:02):
Is that he say it? Epay is something like that.
Epay's in jail. That's all you need to know. Epay
is in the federal pen and he's in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Is that where the pen originated?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Oh, in Pennsylvania?
Speaker 4 (27:18):
That would ends right, right?
Speaker 5 (27:20):
Is it the penn pen if you're in the pen
in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
I don't know. I don't know. I doubt that's the
the slang.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Do you think he still calls him?
Speaker 5 (27:29):
No, I mean he paid my he paid my call
show hey, and show Ay is like, yeah, I'm not
answering that call. I could see Epay like, hey, you know,
I just wanted to apologize for the five thousand time.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Hope you're doing well.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
I heard that you're pitching again and everything's going great.
You probably don't want to hear from me, it all.
It'd be funny if he just calls him up in
rambles for no good reason. You know, but you might
be on a cold streak. If you're a sport's better
and you've been on a recent cold streak, this will
probably make you feel better, so miss Uhara. He admitted
that he placed about nineteen thousand bets with a bookie
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over a two year period, and he accumulated over forty
million dollars in debt.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Oh my goodness, that's what.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
Led to him getting busted. He's sentenced to fifty seven
months in prison for stealing nearly seventeen million dollars from
my time.
Speaker 6 (28:25):
That actually, that is a doable crime sentence, right, less
than five years for that? Yeah, I think I could
do that. Can I bid you money in an offshore
account and no one touch it?
Speaker 4 (28:37):
You think you sign up for a five year stint
just today?
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Like, yeah, I can knock that out. He didn't sound
too bad.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
I would not want to do that at all, but
I hear you, it's better than being away for two
decades or whatever. I don't know what the maximum sentence
could have been. But yeah, that's I have so many
questions with this and ESPN did a great job. Bet
like this, this was an ESPN investigation that revealed all
of this, the wire transfers from Otani's accounts to an
(29:08):
illegal bookmaker.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
I bet when when Epay hears just like.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
The dad, he's like he got found out because of
this ESPN investigation, I would feel that way, my lord.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
But even the FBI, Yeah, right, ESPN investigation, that's trash.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
I want to know who.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
I gotta do a little bit of reason, Mark, whoever
that was, you suck man.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
I got to find out who was on the prowle
in this thing, and that's great investigative work. But man,
if you're an EPAY, you probably have a different perspective
on that whole thing. Man, oh Man, I don't know.
Tisha Thompson. I remember her name. She was one of
the main investigators because I remember her talking about this,
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so I know she was part of it.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
I don't know if it was a crew.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
You're talking about major legwork to uncover all this stuff,
and they did, and there were so many theories at
the time. At the time, immediately I thought Epe is
the fall Guy show. Hey, is Jennifer right this jackass? Bet?
I don't think that's the case at all. I think
(30:23):
Ipe was just a grade A jackass who was betting
hundreds of thousands of dollars, ran up a tab that
was near forty million dollars.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
I think this is all Epe.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
I don't I take back my fall guy stuff.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Altogether.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
They had wire taps, and there's just it's not believable
that he's a fall guy. He's just a jackass. As
it turns out, that's what he is. I wonder, how
do you run up a tab for over forty million
dollars and only deal seventeen million dollars from Otani and.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
Still have your arms and legs? You know.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
That's the other part of it was this just like hey,
I'm good for like seventeen, and the illegal bookmakers like,
all right, we'll call it good for now. I would
love to hear all those conversations during that time.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
I just think it's crazy.
Speaker 6 (31:17):
It's not even hundreds or thousands or hundreds of thousands, right, millions.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Forty million dollars?
Speaker 5 (31:24):
What there were like text messages exchanged. I remember when
the story broke and one of them. Epay was talking
to one of the dudes connected to the illegal book maker,
and he was just like, I am not good at
this at all, and he just kept betting. He knew
he sucked at it, and yet he's still I don't know.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
I was just hoping it would work out.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
It's kind of like Rick Carlisle hoping it would work
out with Tyrese Haliburton's calf injury in Game five. You
know that's probably a bad comparison, but the connection is
just blind hope. Epay is like, Man, I lost a
couple of million over the weekend or whatever it was.
I'll just keep firing away. Not my money, what do
I care, right, just trying to get out of trying
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to get out of the red.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Next time, I'm gonna hit it.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Yeah, next time I'm.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Doing I'm gonna hit it.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
I'm due one of these times, right, one of these times.
It's going my way.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
I'll tell you what, I've lost many sports bets over
the years, and I feel good about not running up
a tab even close to forty million dollars, I'll tell
you that. And I wasn't stealing money from someone else
who's way more wealthy than I am. But still, you know,
it does make me feel a little bit better. It
changes my perspective slightly over lost bets over the years.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
That's amazing. I hope there's a.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
Thirty for thirty on this whole thing in the not
too distant future. There's got to be. Have you seen
some of those Netflix documentaries. Some of them are pretty good.
I saw the the Johnny Football one. I saw the
Brett Favre one that was okay.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
I hope he tells his story. I want to know.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
I would I would love.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
If they could get both show Hay and epay and
the Dodgers and the Illegal book Maker. Now we got
something cooking here. My guess is I could get show
Hey show A. He's all about head down right, like,
I don't want any distractions. I don't want any of
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my business out there. Remember show Hey's famous for not
wanting to reveal his dog's name.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
That was a real story at the time there.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
I think he was being announced as the nl MVP,
and it might have been a zoom call or something
like that, and they're like, oh, who's the cute dog,
and show Hey's like, you know, back to business. They
asked me baseball questions. He didn't want to reveal the
dog's name. That's how private show he is. He's not
going to be in a documentary anytime soon, but.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
If no one know that he was engaged either or.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
Yeah right, yeah, you're right. He tried to keep that
total under wraps. Yep, no doubt.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
But I'd be cool.
Speaker 5 (34:05):
With epay, illegal bookmaker. Maybe the Dodgers. We still got
a good documentary cooking with that. You know, let's put
epay and you know, like the orange jumpsuit, let's really
do it. Let's put them in handcuffs. You know, let's
really do this thing up here with this interview. I
think we got something in the works here. I hope
that gets made. All right, feel free to check in.
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at with this. We'll give you some details coming up.
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Brian on a plane to Mexico City from San Francisco.
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How about that shout out to Freddy, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Love to be on a plane in Mexico?
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Would you?
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Yes?
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Is that you'd like to I'm assuming that's ahead of
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like you said earlier.
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that much money in Mexico?
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Oh yeah, absolutely, Margarita City, no doubt. So there's a
team that's just dumb. That would be your Cincinnati Bengals.
My gosh, I don't understand why some teams just insist
on making life harder on themselves. Like life is hard
enough as a team in the AFC. You got a
(36:57):
lot to compete against. You got the Chiefs, you got
the Ravens, you got a lot in your way, And
the Bengals are like, you know what, let's just make
things more difficult on ourselves.
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So the Bengals stop me, if you've heard this.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
They are involved in a contract dispute their first round pick,
Shamar Stewart, defensive lineman. He held out a mini camp
due to this dispute. Now you might be thinking, hey,
there's this rookie wage scale. The money is slotted, it's
predetermined what these rookies will make. It's like, yeah, all
(37:37):
of that is true, but that's not slowing down the
bozo Bengals over here. They're arguing about contract language. So
I read this nineteen times to try to understand, Like,
what are they actually going for the even what's the
goal here? So the Bengals want to include a clause
(37:58):
that could void future gear guaranteed money in the event
of a default.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
Now what does that mean?
Speaker 5 (38:06):
This could include suspensions for on field or off field conduct. Okay,
if our guy Shamar Stewart gets suspended because he does
something bad off the field or he does something crazy
on the field, the Bengals are like, well, we don't
want to be on the hook for any guaranteed money.
The obvious question would be, well, then why the hell
(38:30):
they draft this guy in the first place, right, Like,
if this is such a concern, why did you pick him?
Because they're the Bengals. The other part is. The Bengals
are also trying to protect themselves. If Shamar isn't available
down the road due to injury, well then you can
play this game like okay, Well, then why isn't every
(38:50):
team in the league trying to do the same thing,
because they aren't dumb like the Bengals are. Bengals are
trying to avoid future guarantees in the contract, which is
unprecedented in the rookie wage scale.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
It's like these rookies are slotted.
Speaker 5 (39:11):
To make X amount of money, and the cheap ass
Bengals are like, hey, if we could sort of kind
of finagle our way out of this future guaranteed money
just in case this might happen, What are you doing?
Speaker 4 (39:28):
What are you doing? My lord?
Speaker 5 (39:31):
I some of these franchises and they still haven't signed
Trey Hendrickson. He's not gonna play on the last year
of his deal. He's made that clear. All he did
last season was lead the league in sacks. Fantastic defensive player.
He's due to make sixteen million dollars this fall in
his current deal, which is peanuts compared to the top
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defensive players, and the Bengals.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
Are like, hey, why don't we sign T.
Speaker 5 (39:57):
Higgins to a huge contract even though we're paying Joe
Burr and Jamar Chase, and now we have to have
to skimp on Hendrickson, and now I have to try
to avoid future guaranteed money with Jamar Stewart. They're dumb.
The Bengals are just dumb. I don't know how else
to say it. They just are all.
Speaker 4 (40:13):
Right now coming up next.
Speaker 5 (40:15):
This guy is good, but he hasn't quite reached rock
star status yet, so I don't know why we're acting
like he has
Host
Ben Maller
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