June 18, 2025 • 39 mins
Brian Noe is joined by Bryan Horwath of the Las Vegas Review-Journal who was at the Hope for Prisoners event that former Raiders WR Henry Ruggs spoke at on Tuesday. Ruggs apologized to the family of the woman he killed and discussed his desire to return to the NFL, the NFL expanding its international presence, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh what is going on? I hope you're enjoying your
early Wednesday morning. So ball on the brain, a couple
of NFL things to throw your way vengeance in just a.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Couple of minutes.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
So the NFL is going to play a game in Dublin, Ireland.
It's gonna be the Vikings and the Steelers on September
twenty eighth, and so the NFL opened it up where
you can you can try to score tickets online. There
were over six hundred thousand people in the ticket q
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trying to score tickets for the game. Over six hundred
thousand people. Now, think about this. This is where it's headed.
I don't know how many years it's going to take
to get there, but I'm pretty sure the NFL is
going to get there Eventually. There's going to be an
eighteen game schedule for every team in the league. And
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my guess is every team once a year will play
a game internationally. You can't tell me the NFL. The
NFL thinks big. They don't look at this and say,
oh wow, six hundred people in the ticket queue, Hey,
high five, high fives all around, let's go good day,
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all right. They think, ooh, how can we maximize this, right,
they think to the max degree. So what they're going
to do And there have been whispers about this, of course,
the eighteen game schedule. There have been more and more
whispers here and there. Goodall has said it like, yeah,
you know, I think an eighteen game schedule makes a
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lot of sense.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
That sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
It's only a matter of time until the NFL dangles
enough carrots.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
And the players are like, wait, how much can we make?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
All right, cool, let's do it, and it's gonna open
the door to more international games being played. They're trying
to grow the game globally, which really means it's a
fancy way of saying they're trying to make as much
cash as humanly possible. Like growing the game globally with
quotations the whole time means how can we line our
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pockets with more of that international cash?
Speaker 2 (02:16):
That's what they're really saying, and they're gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
We've got what seven international games this upcoming season and
in multiple places with Germany, Spain, you got the London games,
Ireland in there. Like you're starting to see more and
more places. It's not just hey, we're going to London
once Hey, we're going to London twice. It's like, no,
They're going all the way around, and I think they're
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just gonna keep going down that road.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Which, hey, I get.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I think it makes a lot of sense financially, you know,
brand building overseas. I have no issue with it. I
really don't. I know it can be hard on the players.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
The Vikings.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
They play two in international games back to back. That's uncommon.
I don't think that's ever happened before. And so that's
why I go back to I was mentioning last night,
that's why the Vikings are just so fascinating to me.
Just for a minute, let's dip our toes in the
Vikings waters again. But that's another reason where that's uncommon
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to play two international games back to back. And yeah,
they're not gonna travel to Dublin and then travel back
and then travel to London and travel back.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
They're not gonna do that. But still, it's uncommon to.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Be away that long, to have back to back international
games while you're breaking in a first year starting quarterback.
I'm telling you, man, the boom er bust nature of
what the Viking season could be like, I'm all about it.
I'm very interested in seeing how it plays out for them,
and how well JJ McCarthy plays or how shaky he plays.
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That's gonna make a huge difference. While we're talking about quarterbacks,
let me switch gears and let me focus on the
team that's also from the AFC North. We're just talking
about the Vikings and Steelers playing that game in Dublin
that six hundred thousand people are trying to get tickets to.
But another team in the AFC North would be the
Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
How about Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
He's honestly still not over the playoff loss to the Bills,
still ticked off about that thing. He met with the
with some reporters after the Ravens Mini CAAP practice on Tuesday.
Also Ravens quarterbacks coach Tem Martin. He described the playoff
defeat to the Bills for Jackson as a quote deep
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felt loss, deep felt loss. Yes, you can imagine why.
That was a tough one man, very very tough loss.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
This was Lamar.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
I love how he put it right using that loss
as motivation for this season. Here's what he says as
about getting even if you will, we don't.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Bounce back and we've come back. I feel like we're
gonna have vengeans on our man.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
What a statement. I love that statement. I feel like
we're gonna have vengeance on our mind. Let's go.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
That sounds like a New Slayer album right there. Vengeance
on our mind. Absolutely put that on a T shirt.
That is beautiful.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Love that and also what Lamar said about the playoff
loss to the Bills. This is one of the things
I love about Lamar.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Lamar will look at what he did wrong first, compared
to looking at what a teammate did wrong first, and
instead of looking at Mark Andrews had a costly drop
on a two point conversion would have tied the game.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
He's not talking about.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
That at all. Here's what Lamar is talking about in
terms of that playoff loss to the Bills last season.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I felt like when we protected the ball, we had
no problems moving the ball down the field, you know,
first second down, we get positive yards out of every play,
you know, just the turnovers, no turnovers. I feel like
we win.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
I hear him on that, and I do love that
he's basically pointing to himself because Lamar had a bad interception,
he had a really costly fumble in that game, and
the Ravens came all the way back and had a
chance to tie it didn't get it done. But to
Lamar's point, he's like, he's basically saying, if I protected
the ball and played better, we probably win that game.
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That's what he's really saying. But I just love that
he's not throwing a teammate under the bus. He's just
looking at what he should have and could have done better.
And that's that's a mature stance. That's a mature outlook
from Lamar. And the funny thing with Lamar is I
don't know I feel, and you can disagree with me
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or correct me if you think I'm wrong on this,
But I.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Think that Lamar.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Is he's treated with gloves by a lot of people
because I think they don't want to be viewed as
just Lamar haters.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
You know, when you think about when Lamar.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Before he stepped foot into the NFL, he was doubted
by a lot of people. There are a lot of
comments like should he play wide receiver? Is he good
enough to play quarterback? Yeah, he just want a heisman?
Speaker 2 (07:22):
But is he good enough to play quarterback?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
It looks ridiculous, right, now right, he's a two time MVP,
arguably should have been a three time MVP.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
His numbers last season were sick. Have you seen his numbers?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
The stats he put up through for nearly forty two
hundred yards last season with forty one touchdown passes and
only four interceptions. His passer rating was a scoch under
one P twenty.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
It was one nineteen point six.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
By the way, he also rushed for over nine hundred
yards with four touchdowns there too, So all together, passing
and rushing he accounted for over five thousand yards with
forty five touchdowns and four interceptions.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Those numbers are absurd.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
But once again, when the playoffs rolled around, Lamar made
another early exit.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Lost of the Bills again.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Lost of them early in his career. Threw a pick
six that was around COVID when no one was in
the stands, That threw a pick six in a very
low scoring game that swung the game in the Bills direction.
And then this last one he just meant and in
his own words he mentioned, like we don't turn the
ball over, I feel like we win that game.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
And that's the thing I feel like.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I feel like one Lamar doesn't get a ton of
haters because he is well accomplished.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
He's a two time MVP.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
That's a weird That's a tricky thing right there, because
it can go one of two ways. Oftentimes, the more
you accomplish, the more is expected. Think about like Dirk
Noavitsky won an MVP and he had to get the
award in like a back closet somewhere because they were
already eliminated from the playoffs at a first round exit.
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And then it was like, here, Dirk, here's your MVP trophy.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Man, this is awkward.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
We've been bounced from the playoffs and we're giving you
the trophy. And all anyone would say is like, ah,
what a joke. Where are the wins? Where are the rings?
So it often goes that way. The more that you accomplish,
the more we expect. But I feel like with Lamar,
maybe it slightly swings a different way where it's more
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of a rare case where the more he's accomplished it
allows it cuts him a little bit of slack with
the latest playoff loss.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Maybe.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
But what I really think is I do think a
lot of it traces back to before the NFL Draft,
Like this is a taste of the twenty eighteen Combine
all these questions Lamar is answering about, like maybe working
out as a wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Check this out, just to.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Make sure that we're clear on this.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
No one has asked you at all to work out
with the wide receiver groupment okay, and that's not on
the table.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
I'm not gonna be a receiver tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
If your teams did ask you to do that.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Would you do it?
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Quite a bit, he's having to answer those questions. There
were three back to back to.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Back right there. You're gonna work out?
Speaker 4 (10:31):
No?
Speaker 1 (10:33):
You know, has anybody asked you no? And he desired no?
Man Q b read my lips quarter back?
Speaker 4 (10:40):
All right?
Speaker 2 (10:41):
How about that? And I think that a lot.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Of the the lack of just wide spread criticism. Think
about some of these quarterbacks in the league right now
that are widely criticized, Dak Prescott widely criticized.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Justin Herbert, we.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Were like the playoff wins Herbert, Where are they with Lamar?
I feel like it's totally fair to say that too.
Lamar is three and five in the postseason as a
two time MVP.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
That's not good enough.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
And he'd be the first one to tell you that
Dak Prescott he's two and five in the playoffs and
that record is tied for the worst by a quarterback
in NFL history with a minimum of five starts. Dak
Prescott is tied for the worst playoff record at two
and five.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Lamar is three and five.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Not worlds better than Dak Prescott's record, right think how
Dak gets crushed, and some would argue, rightfully so compared
to Lamar, Lamar doesn't get half the criticism that Dak
Prescott gets. And let all things be equal, Let Dak
be a two time MVP. Let Dak lose the playoff
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games the same way Lamar has lost them. Dak would
get crushed and Lamar largely escapes a lot of that
just were like venom criticism, like harsh criticism. He doesn't
get it.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
And I feel like a lot of.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
People don't want to be branded as just haters like
Lamar had a lot of haters before he was drafted,
and a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Really really were bent about that.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
They thought it was possibly like a little bit racist,
They thought it was completely unfair. He totally proved the
doubters wrong and they were vocal about it. The Lamar
supporters were vocal about him being a quote unquote wide
receiver prospect and how much of a joke that was.
I'll tell you this, I really do respect Lamar because
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as a two time MVP who was widely doubted before
he was drafted in the NFL as a quarterback, he
could have easily shoved that in our faces time and
time and time again, at least shoved it in the
faces of the critics, like the same draft.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
If Baker Mayfield like who I like as well?
Speaker 1 (13:08):
If Baker Mayfield, He's got a lot more likable over
the years. Baker Mayfield used to drive me crazy. He
just got involved in the drama. He was everything that
was basically the opposite of Caitlyn Clark. You know, like
Caitlin Clark gets involved in all this drama, Like the
drama just follows her. All these WNBA haters are just like, ah,
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this girl, and she's the one driving the ratings.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
This shouldn't be the way it is.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
I'm going to take out all my aggression on her,
and Caitlyn's like, you know what, high road, high road,
high road. I feel like Baker got sucked into the drama.
You know, there are allowed critics of Baker Mayfield, and
he didn't have a chip on his shoulder. He had
a mountain on his shoulder. He's trying to prove everybody wrong.
I think that got in his way. I don't think
that helped him. I think it hurt him. But anyway,
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Baker's become a lot more likable, got to Tampa better,
supporting cast, put up numbers. Feels feel like he's a
lot more likable than he used to be. The point is,
if Baker Mayfield, if he were the one rattling off
two MVPs and arguably should have been a three time
MVP with all the critics he faced earlier in his career,
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he never would have shut up about that. You know
as well as I do. Baker would have been like you.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Doubted me, you thought I couldn't do it? Boom, what
do you know? MVP? Boom another MVP? What do you
have to say?
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Oh? He wouldn He would have been insufferable. And Lamar
never was like that. Lamar he never shoved it in
our faces. I really respect him for that because Lamar
he really is. He has more of a team first
attitude instead of Hey, I need my individual props. You
should be taking everything back. Remember when you said I
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should have been a wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
I didn't forget that. He hasn't thrown that back out there.
He's just like, I'm focused on winning.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
You know.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
He just shoved all that to the side. He brushed
it off. He's like whatever. I respect him for that.
We got to see some playoff wins. Man, you can't
be arguably we should have been a three time MVP
and have three playoff wins. Gotta be way, way, way
better than that. And he's accountable, right. You heard in
the sound he's like, hey, if we don't turn the
ball over, which really means if I don't turn the
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ball over, would probably win that game. So he's owned it.
I respect him for that. But listen, I would say this,
just state your opinion. I think Lamar has to win
more playoff games. I think that Lamar when the playoffs
roll around, is the most overrated player in the NFL.
There's nothing personal there. I just told you. I like
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the guy. I like how he carries himself. I like
how he's team first. But you can't be that accomplished
in the regular season and wet yourself time and time
and time again in the playoffs. It can't It's not
good enough. He'd be the first one to tell you that.
But it's like, why would you shy away from that?
Just say what you think instead of like, oh, someone
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might think that I really just like this guy and
I'm the latest hater and what what.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Are you doing?
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Just say what you think and don't worry if someone
like takes it for something that it isn't. I don't know, man,
I just think there's too much sugarcoating these days and
a lot of shying away from stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
I respect Lamar. I like Lamar a lot.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
I think he oftentimes turns into a pumpkin in the postseason.
He's got all the talent in the world to change that,
but until he does, he's an overrated player. When we
get to the postseason, the time that really matters, we'll
see if he turns that around. All right. Coming up next,
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Speaker 1 (17:02):
I'm Brian no In for Big Ben Mallor here on
Fox Sports Radio. Okay, So Henry Ruggs the Third is
in the news again. He was at an event on
Tuesday night. It's a special release from prison. He was
on special release from prison and so on Tuesday night
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he spoke at a Hope for Prisoners event in Las Vegas,
and at that event he apologized to the family of
a woman he killed in a car crash that was
nearly four years ago. And here to help us talk
about that, Brian Horwath from The Vegas Journal Vegas Review
Journal joins us here on Fox Sports Radio. Brian, you
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are at this event on Tuesday night. First off, welcome Inn.
How would you describe what that event was like with
Henry Ruggs the Third there, Well.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
It was interesting. I mean, he really has it's spoken
out at all since really his sentencing a few years ago.
So it was interesting. He was contrite. He was apologetic
to the family of Tina Tintor, who of course died
in that fiery crash back in November.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
Of twenty twenty one, and you know, he also said
he said a couple things that were pretty interesting, including
that he would like to play football again and even
possibly for the Raiders.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
I don't know if that's ever going to be a
realistic possibility, but he's certainly thinking about trying to get
in the NFL again once he gets out. He'll be
eligible for parole in August of next year, so that's
the soonest that he would he would get out.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Interesting, And I was thinking about this, Brian, with the
possibility of Henry Ruggs being released and wanting to play
football again, is anything it's put you on the spot.
Is there anything comparable in NFL history where someone did time,
came back and played again.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Can you think of anything off the top of your head.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
Well, yeah, we were talking about this earlier. Was it
in the early two thousands or the late nineties. If
you remember, there's a player I think his name was
Leonard Little I played with the Saint Louis ram and
I think he was the same kind of situation. He
was in a dy crashing, drinking and driving. Somebody died
in that crash. I want to say he did come
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back and play after that. But but certainly, I mean
this would be, if not unprecedented, it's certainly very rare.
But you know, just looking at I mean, we're in
the room with Henry tonight in Las Vegas and basically
in this conference room, and boy, he looks good, he
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looks healthy, he looks basically ripped. I mean, you gotta remember,
this guy's only twenty six years old. So look, if
a team wanted to give him a chance, I mean,
I don't know, there's a lot of baggage there, but
he certainly had a lot of talent. I mean in
twenty twenty one, I think he played seven or eight
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games before that crash happened, and he had something like
around five hundred receiving yards, a couple of touchdowns. I mean,
he was kind of starting to come on. He was
a legitimate deep threat. So I don't know, I guess
we've probably seen stranger things happen, but it'll be interesting
to see what happens for sure.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
What do you think?
Speaker 1 (20:32):
And Brian Horwath is our guest here from the Vegas
Review Journal joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. Was
at this event on Tuesday night in Vegas. Henry Ruggs,
former Raiders wide receiver, speaking at a Hope for Prisoners
event and apologize to the family of the woman that
he killed in a car crash.
Speaker 7 (20:53):
What do you.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Think the percentage chance might be if you had to
take a guess of an l team who is looking
at this situation, knowing what happened, knowing the pr ramifications,
should they give Henry Ruggs a chance? What do you
think that, like the realistic possibility is that he plays
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in the NFL again, I just.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Don't know, you know, honestly, Brian, I mean, it's it's
hard for me to believe that a team would want
to take on that baggage. But then you look at
you know, this is a young guy. He was kind
of starting to come into his own. He's one of
those one of those receivers. He's a deep threat. I
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mean he's he at least was. We don't know what
he is now, but he was a very fast receiver
who's able to kind of take the top off of
the defense. You know, that's a coveted thing in the NFL,
as you know, so who knows. It does seem like
there's a lot of baggage, you know, he was out drinking.
He ends up driving his Corvette with his then girlfriend.
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I think it's just fiance, you know, almost one hundred
and fifty miles an hour on our residential street here
in Las Vegas and ends up killing a woman. That's
that's a lot of baggage. But you know, on the
other hand, I mean, this is America, and you know what,
if you serve your time, I mean, Michael Vick served
as time was able to come back. I realized that's
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a different situation. That's apples and argues. But you know,
who knows who knows. But it was certainly interesting to see.
I think the exact quote from Henry today was, hey,
look when I get out you know whatever that is,
he hopes it's next year, next August.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
He said, look, I'll be ready.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
So it'll definitely be very interesting.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Yeah, I would imagine that's that's a tough thing to balance,
right where you want to have dreams and goals and
look forward to your future.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
I mean that is understandable.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
But at the same time, when on one hand, Europe
still apologize for this horrible, horrible mistake that you made,
and then in your next breath you're talking about your future.
That's a really tough thing to balance.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
Yeah, I mean, and certainly. I mean, you know, when
Henry was talking tonight, he was basically in a room
full of the ex offenders who are kind of trying
to come back and be productive members of society. He
was also live stream, so there's some some folks in
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prisons across Nevada who were also watching, and you know,
it was kind of interesting. A couple of those folks said, look, Henry,
you know, you're an inspiration to us, and you know,
he was. He was kind of inspiring to listen to.
You know, he said he's learned a lot. He was young,
he wasn't happy he was away from home. I mean,
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he said he kind of escaped into that world of
essentially of drinking. Obviously made a horrible mistake. But again,
you know, we're talking about a guy who's twenty six
and he's saying, look, I want to come back and
make something out of myself again. So it was there
was a lot of emotion in that room today.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Yeah, I can imagine. So you know what's crazy is
I feel so stupid right now, Brian, because yeah, of
course I went back and looked at Henry Ruggs and
his numbers. Right, just looked at his stats and his
rookie season, he had what twenty six catches for about
four hundred and fifty yards, and then his second season,
in seven games a twenty four catches for a little
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bit better, about four hundred and fifty yards.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
And I'm looking at twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
One and I'm like, huh, maybe he got hurt, maybe
a hamstring or something.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
I totally it's like, duh, that's when the crash.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Happened, Like you just said, a little while ago, that
was during the twenty one season, and the next thing,
you know, the Raiders released him and then he's, you know,
on his way to being sentenced.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
It took a little while.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
He pleaded guilty in May of three and was sentenced
in August of twenty three, and it was just a
three to ten year prison sentence, and like you said,
he's eligible for parole next August. Right.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
Yeah, And you know, there were certainly some folks who
raised an eyebrow at you know, hey, this this person
potentially he's responsible for taking someone else's life and he
gets potentially only three years that. You know, a lot
of things go into that he you know, he didn't
have prior.
Speaker 6 (25:29):
Offenses or anything like that. You know, he was.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
Also able to afford David Chesnoff, who's, you know, a
high price lawyer here in Las Vegas, and that certainly
didn't hurt his cause either. But hey, look, I mean tonight,
if for just just for the event, and I know
that there's a family that's that's hurting and they're gonna
be hurting forever, that's never gonna go away. You know,
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he said all the right things tonight, So I don't know,
We'll see, We'll see what happens.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Has there any word from the victims family, Have they
said anything about how they feel right now about the
whole situation, or are they're just you know, kind of
living life on their own without making any statements like that.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
Well, it's funny. I was actually texting back and forth
with the victim's uncle, who has spoke out in the
past last few years a little bit, and you know,
he had no idea that Henry wouldn't be speaking at
this event. We didn't know this was going on. Henry
himself said that he was just asked to do this
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on Saturday, so he just basically just decided that the
time was right he wanted to talk a little bit
about his experience. So and Tina, Tintor's uncle just said,
he told me in a text message, Look, there's there's
so much that goes into He was actually at work
tonight and he said, look, I don't want to, you know,
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make one or two comments to mug talk later. Obviously
a lot there was a lot of emotion that went
into that whole thing, A lot of emotion for that family.
So you know that's something obviously that's not going to
go away after.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Yeah, no doubt, I totally hear you on that. It's
it becomes so complicated so fast, you know, because I
think about it. I have two nephews who I absolutely adore,
and they're around the same age when Tina was killed, right,
And so if I put myself in that position, like
you're texting back and forth with the uncle, me as
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an uncle, if one of my nephews died the same way,
I would have a huge problem with that. But at
the same time, it's not like I want to make
I don't want to text you something and that could
impact that person's life going forward. It becomes really complicated,
really fast. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
Absolutely. I mean I don't blame them for that, you know,
I can say that certainly the family did you know,
wonder if maybe that was a little bit light of
a sentence. And I think anyone could probably understand if
you're in their shoes as well. So it's it's a
difficult situation. You know, there were never any winners in this,
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you know, Henry his family had to go through all this,
and of course Tina Tintor's family, So it's just a
really a really tragic, tragic situation.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Absolutely. Well, Hey, Brian, I appreciate you taking a couple
of minutes. Man, Thanks for your time here in the
early morning, and I hope you have a good day.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
We'll catch you down the road.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Absolutely there.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
He is Brian Horwath from the Vegas Reviewed Journal. He
was at that event former Raiders wide receiver Henry Ruggs.
He was on special release from prison. On Tuesday night,
he spoke at a Hope for Prisoners event in Las
Vegas and he apologized to the family of a woman
he killed in a car crash. That was nearly four
years ago. So this was in November of twenty one
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and like Brian said, Ruggs was driving a sports car
around one hundred and fifty six miles per hour in
a residential area and he slammed into the back of
Tina Tintour's vehicle. He killed her and her dog, and
so he pled guilty. Ruggs did in May of twenty three.
He pled guilty to felony dui causing death and misdemeanor
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vehicular manslaughter. He was sentenced in August of twenty three
to a three to ten year prison sentence. That ay,
that's wild that it could be only three years I remember,
And this is a weird full circle moment. But coincidentally,
June seventeenth, which is when this show started on the
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West coast, at least on Tuesday, that was the anniversary
of the OJ Bronco chase in LA Isn't.
Speaker 7 (30:03):
That weird how big events tend to happen like that
at the same time.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
But the weird twist is OJ commented on the Henry
Rugg situation.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Oh and he was like three years.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Like OJ was like, something doesn't add up right there,
you know, And so that's what came to mind, is
OJ commented on the Henry Rugg situation, and the Bronco
Chase was Tuesday, you know, June seventeenth, So that's funny
how that worked together. But yeah, that's uh. I think
Brian said it best.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
There are no winners.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
But the tough part is imagine if you are one
of Tina Tintour's loved ones, like he mentioned texting with
the uncle I'm an uncle, if one of my nephews
died like that, for in that manner, like that's how
they went, I would be I don't know how to
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describe it. I'd be out of my mind if that happened.
Speaker 7 (31:04):
I find it very very difficult to believe that he
will play in the NFL again.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
I find it very difficult too.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
But he did bring up Leonard Little and I do
remember him at the University of Tennessee. You remember him
with the Rams. I'd have to look back at the exact.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I did look it up.
Speaker 7 (31:24):
It was his rookie season, killed a woman drunk driving incident,
and he played involuntary manslaughter. And then he did continue
to play and have a career. And I don't know
what the the like the details were, the little details
of that, but I mean, you know, some of the
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details of the rug situation, you know, one hundred and
fifty six miles an hour on the you know, on
the like on the street, and then like the manner
in which you know the woman and her dog died, right,
it's it's you know.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
I know, I hear you.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
I think I'd have to look back Dante Stalwarth, the
former wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
I know.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
I Again, I'd have to find out all the details.
I'm not saying it's the exact same thing, but there
might have been some similarities where he was drinking and
there was some sort of accident, And again I'd have
to refresh myself with all the details.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
But I hear you.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
It seems like, man, I don't know that an NFL
team is going to sign up for that. But when
there are some other examples, we'll see, we'll see. I
don't know, maybe he has to take the scenic route
and go to the UFL for a little bit first,
or I don't know what, but it's possible. It's pretty
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wild to say, like, think about this next season, not
this coming season, the twenty twenty five season, but next year,
the twenty twenty sixth season. He could be out of
prison and trying to make a roster. That's wild to
think about, but that could be the reality.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
We'll see how it shakes out, all right.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Coming up next, a member of the militia checks in
interesting comparison in terms of being targeted. We'll share that
with you. Coming up, it's Fox Sports Radio. I'm Brian
no In for Big Ben Maller.
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Speaker 1 (33:37):
It is Fox Sports Radio. I'm Brian no In for
Big Ben Maler. So let me get to a tweet
from the militia and we'll give you some some crack
research we've been doing here, which is it might be
a sign of the apocalypse now that I'm thinking about it.
But first off, the tweet here, So we were talking
about Caitlin Clark for a little bit. There was a
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dust up in the Fever Connecticut Sun game on Tuesday
night and there was a player playing defense on Caitlyn Clark.
She got raked across the face. Caitlyn pushed this girl
and then Caitlyn got pushed to the floor by Marina Maybry.
There's some bad blood later in the game. Sophia Cunningham,
(34:21):
she got even j C. Sheldon, that was the player
that accidentally raked Caitlin across the face. At the end
of the game, Sophie Cunningham committed a hard foul on her.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
And got tossed for it.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
So there was some fisticuffs on Tuesday night in the
Sun v.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Fever showdown. But I just threw out the.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Question, where is there an athlete, regardless of sport, regardless
of league, that has gotten basically the Caitlyn Clark treatment
from other players in the league.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
And you know how it's played out.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
A lot of jealousy going on with the other NBA players,
and we've seen many instances of it play out where
Caitlin has been targeted. She's been knocked around quite a bit.
There's been physical play and not just your standard Hey,
that was a hard file, Like well, that was a
complete cheap shot, Like you were clearly bent about this
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girl getting a lot of attention and notoriety. And I
was just curious if you've heard other athletes make statements
against the player the way WNBA players have of the
last year and a half with Caitlin Clark since she's
been in the WNBA and the way she's been targeted
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within the lines. And so Sheila checked in at the
no Show on AX and said, I think Shador Sanders
was targeted during the draft and not sure that he
will be on the field of play, but that's as
close as I can come to anything in recent history.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
I would actually take it back to college, you know,
if you would go back to college. Was there a
little bit of I don't know, extra hot sauce on
the line there?
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Right, Like some players that are going against Shaduur.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Sanders and they're like, all right, this guy with kind
of like the watch dance and Shador has flair, shadu
Or has charisma, Shaduur likes to dance. Sometimes you like
to dance in your face. Not every competitor loves that.
So was there a little bit of extra there with
some of the opponents when he was back in college. Yeah,
(36:37):
I would say there's a little extra at times, some
extra motivation and maybe plant him into the turf, you know,
preferably legally, but if illegally, you know.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. Was there
a little bit of that in college?
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Yeah, I would say in now the person that tweeted,
they're talking about the draft specifically, and I mean I
don't know that that's a different deal than Caitlin Clark.
Like Caitlin Clark's at number one overall pick. I mean,
you got some jealous players, but front offices are totally
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sold on Caitlin.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
They're like, what's there to think about?
Speaker 1 (37:18):
This girl bombs threes, she's a past first point guard, Like,
she's unbelievable in college. Her game translates perfectly to the WNBA,
Like every front office is sold on her. So that's
where it differs with Shador. I don't know that you
could say he was like targeted by front offices. I
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still don't quite understand what they were thinking. Where there
are a lot of teams that still need starting quarterbacks
and they're just like, yeah, no, no thanks, is it
really that bad?
Speaker 2 (37:54):
So it was like confusing.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
It was strange when she'd do showed that he's at
least talented enough to be a higher draft pick than
a fifth rounder.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yeah, I mean, hey, call it what you will.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Where it's a weird evaluation or it's being skeptical to
a fault. I don't know, however you want to describe it,
but I don't think it's it's similar to Caitlin Clark
as far as that part of it goes, as far
as the details that might be a sign of the apocalypse.
Coop was looking up these details. We were just talking
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about Henry Ruggs, the former Raiders wide receiver, and some
of the details involving his trunk driving crime, and we're
thinking this is all like, might he play in the
NFL again? And you compare it to Leonard Little played
for the Rams in the NFL, Dante Stalworth who was
a wide receiver in the NFL, and some of the
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details here, Coop, Like, I wrote down some of the
things you said. So Dante Stalworth, he was released after
you're serving twenty four days of a thirty day sentence.
He was driving over the legal limit, killed someone and
served twenty four days.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
That is it.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Leonard Little, he had a point one point nine and
was driving back from a birthday party, killed a woman.
Ninety day sentence played in the league. Like, the thing
that's different is there was video of Henry Rugg's situation.
You know, there was I remember the fiery vehicle that
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the victim died in. You're seeing that on TV. So
that could stick with NFL teams, that could That could
differ quite a bit from the other two situations, but
there is a precedent at least for similar crimes in
those players getting back to the league. Hey, coming up next.
Critical comments are not automatically personal.
Oh what is going on? I hope you're enjoying your
early Wednesday morning. So ball on the brain, a couple
of NFL things to throw your way vengeance in just a.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Couple of minutes.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
So the NFL is going to play a game in Dublin, Ireland.
It's gonna be the Vikings and the Steelers on September
twenty eighth, and so the NFL opened it up where
you can you can try to score tickets online. There
were over six hundred thousand people in the ticket q
(00:37):
trying to score tickets for the game. Over six hundred
thousand people. Now, think about this. This is where it's headed.
I don't know how many years it's going to take
to get there, but I'm pretty sure the NFL is
going to get there Eventually. There's going to be an
eighteen game schedule for every team in the league. And
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my guess is every team once a year will play
a game internationally. You can't tell me the NFL. The
NFL thinks big. They don't look at this and say,
oh wow, six hundred people in the ticket queue, Hey,
high five, high fives all around, let's go good day,
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all right. They think, ooh, how can we maximize this, right,
they think to the max degree. So what they're going
to do And there have been whispers about this, of course,
the eighteen game schedule. There have been more and more
whispers here and there. Goodall has said it like, yeah,
you know, I think an eighteen game schedule makes a
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lot of sense.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
That sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
It's only a matter of time until the NFL dangles
enough carrots.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
And the players are like, wait, how much can we make?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
All right, cool, let's do it, and it's gonna open
the door to more international games being played. They're trying
to grow the game globally, which really means it's a
fancy way of saying they're trying to make as much
cash as humanly possible. Like growing the game globally with
quotations the whole time means how can we line our
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pockets with more of that international cash?
Speaker 2 (02:16):
That's what they're really saying, and they're gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
We've got what seven international games this upcoming season and
in multiple places with Germany, Spain, you got the London games,
Ireland in there. Like you're starting to see more and
more places. It's not just hey, we're going to London
once Hey, we're going to London twice. It's like, no,
They're going all the way around, and I think they're
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just gonna keep going down that road.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Which, hey, I get.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I think it makes a lot of sense financially, you know,
brand building overseas. I have no issue with it. I
really don't. I know it can be hard on the players.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
The Vikings.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
They play two in international games back to back. That's uncommon.
I don't think that's ever happened before. And so that's
why I go back to I was mentioning last night,
that's why the Vikings are just so fascinating to me.
Just for a minute, let's dip our toes in the
Vikings waters again. But that's another reason where that's uncommon
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to play two international games back to back. And yeah,
they're not gonna travel to Dublin and then travel back
and then travel to London and travel back.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
They're not gonna do that. But still, it's uncommon to.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Be away that long, to have back to back international
games while you're breaking in a first year starting quarterback.
I'm telling you, man, the boom er bust nature of
what the Viking season could be like, I'm all about it.
I'm very interested in seeing how it plays out for them,
and how well JJ McCarthy plays or how shaky he plays.
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That's gonna make a huge difference. While we're talking about quarterbacks,
let me switch gears and let me focus on the
team that's also from the AFC North. We're just talking
about the Vikings and Steelers playing that game in Dublin
that six hundred thousand people are trying to get tickets to.
But another team in the AFC North would be the
Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
How about Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
He's honestly still not over the playoff loss to the Bills,
still ticked off about that thing. He met with the
with some reporters after the Ravens Mini CAAP practice on Tuesday.
Also Ravens quarterbacks coach Tem Martin. He described the playoff
defeat to the Bills for Jackson as a quote deep
(04:45):
felt loss, deep felt loss. Yes, you can imagine why.
That was a tough one man, very very tough loss.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
This was Lamar.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
I love how he put it right using that loss
as motivation for this season. Here's what he says as
about getting even if you will, we don't.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Bounce back and we've come back. I feel like we're
gonna have vengeans on our man.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
What a statement. I love that statement. I feel like
we're gonna have vengeance on our mind. Let's go.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
That sounds like a New Slayer album right there. Vengeance
on our mind. Absolutely put that on a T shirt.
That is beautiful.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Love that and also what Lamar said about the playoff
loss to the Bills. This is one of the things
I love about Lamar.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Lamar will look at what he did wrong first, compared
to looking at what a teammate did wrong first, and
instead of looking at Mark Andrews had a costly drop
on a two point conversion would have tied the game.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
He's not talking about.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
That at all. Here's what Lamar is talking about in
terms of that playoff loss to the Bills last season.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I felt like when we protected the ball, we had
no problems moving the ball down the field, you know,
first second down, we get positive yards out of every play,
you know, just the turnovers, no turnovers. I feel like
we win.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
I hear him on that, and I do love that
he's basically pointing to himself because Lamar had a bad interception,
he had a really costly fumble in that game, and
the Ravens came all the way back and had a
chance to tie it didn't get it done. But to
Lamar's point, he's like, he's basically saying, if I protected
the ball and played better, we probably win that game.
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That's what he's really saying. But I just love that
he's not throwing a teammate under the bus. He's just
looking at what he should have and could have done better.
And that's that's a mature stance. That's a mature outlook
from Lamar. And the funny thing with Lamar is I
don't know I feel, and you can disagree with me
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or correct me if you think I'm wrong on this,
But I.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Think that Lamar.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Is he's treated with gloves by a lot of people
because I think they don't want to be viewed as
just Lamar haters.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
You know, when you think about when Lamar.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Before he stepped foot into the NFL, he was doubted
by a lot of people. There are a lot of
comments like should he play wide receiver? Is he good
enough to play quarterback? Yeah, he just want a heisman?
Speaker 2 (07:22):
But is he good enough to play quarterback?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
It looks ridiculous, right, now right, he's a two time MVP,
arguably should have been a three time MVP.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
His numbers last season were sick. Have you seen his numbers?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
The stats he put up through for nearly forty two
hundred yards last season with forty one touchdown passes and
only four interceptions. His passer rating was a scoch under
one P twenty.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
It was one nineteen point six.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
By the way, he also rushed for over nine hundred
yards with four touchdowns there too, So all together, passing
and rushing he accounted for over five thousand yards with
forty five touchdowns and four interceptions.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Those numbers are absurd.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
But once again, when the playoffs rolled around, Lamar made
another early exit.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Lost of the Bills again.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Lost of them early in his career. Threw a pick
six that was around COVID when no one was in
the stands, That threw a pick six in a very
low scoring game that swung the game in the Bills direction.
And then this last one he just meant and in
his own words he mentioned, like we don't turn the
ball over, I feel like we win that game.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
And that's the thing I feel like.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I feel like one Lamar doesn't get a ton of
haters because he is well accomplished.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
He's a two time MVP.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
That's a weird That's a tricky thing right there, because
it can go one of two ways. Oftentimes, the more
you accomplish, the more is expected. Think about like Dirk
Noavitsky won an MVP and he had to get the
award in like a back closet somewhere because they were
already eliminated from the playoffs at a first round exit.
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And then it was like, here, Dirk, here's your MVP trophy.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Man, this is awkward.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
We've been bounced from the playoffs and we're giving you
the trophy. And all anyone would say is like, ah,
what a joke. Where are the wins? Where are the rings?
So it often goes that way. The more that you accomplish,
the more we expect. But I feel like with Lamar,
maybe it slightly swings a different way where it's more
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of a rare case where the more he's accomplished it
allows it cuts him a little bit of slack with
the latest playoff loss.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Maybe.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
But what I really think is I do think a
lot of it traces back to before the NFL Draft,
Like this is a taste of the twenty eighteen Combine
all these questions Lamar is answering about, like maybe working
out as a wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Check this out, just to.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Make sure that we're clear on this.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
No one has asked you at all to work out
with the wide receiver groupment okay, and that's not on
the table.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
I'm not gonna be a receiver tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
If your teams did ask you to do that.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Would you do it?
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Quite a bit, he's having to answer those questions. There
were three back to back to.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Back right there. You're gonna work out?
Speaker 4 (10:31):
No?
Speaker 1 (10:33):
You know, has anybody asked you no? And he desired no?
Man Q b read my lips quarter back?
Speaker 4 (10:40):
All right?
Speaker 2 (10:41):
How about that? And I think that a lot.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Of the the lack of just wide spread criticism. Think
about some of these quarterbacks in the league right now
that are widely criticized, Dak Prescott widely criticized.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Justin Herbert, we.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Were like the playoff wins Herbert, Where are they with Lamar?
I feel like it's totally fair to say that too.
Lamar is three and five in the postseason as a
two time MVP.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
That's not good enough.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
And he'd be the first one to tell you that
Dak Prescott he's two and five in the playoffs and
that record is tied for the worst by a quarterback
in NFL history with a minimum of five starts. Dak
Prescott is tied for the worst playoff record at two
and five.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Lamar is three and five.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Not worlds better than Dak Prescott's record, right think how
Dak gets crushed, and some would argue, rightfully so compared
to Lamar, Lamar doesn't get half the criticism that Dak
Prescott gets. And let all things be equal, Let Dak
be a two time MVP. Let Dak lose the playoff
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games the same way Lamar has lost them. Dak would
get crushed and Lamar largely escapes a lot of that
just were like venom criticism, like harsh criticism. He doesn't
get it.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
And I feel like a lot of.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
People don't want to be branded as just haters like
Lamar had a lot of haters before he was drafted,
and a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Really really were bent about that.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
They thought it was possibly like a little bit racist,
They thought it was completely unfair. He totally proved the
doubters wrong and they were vocal about it. The Lamar
supporters were vocal about him being a quote unquote wide
receiver prospect and how much of a joke that was.
I'll tell you this, I really do respect Lamar because
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as a two time MVP who was widely doubted before
he was drafted in the NFL as a quarterback, he
could have easily shoved that in our faces time and
time and time again, at least shoved it in the
faces of the critics, like the same draft.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
If Baker Mayfield like who I like as well?
Speaker 1 (13:08):
If Baker Mayfield, He's got a lot more likable over
the years. Baker Mayfield used to drive me crazy. He
just got involved in the drama. He was everything that
was basically the opposite of Caitlyn Clark. You know, like
Caitlin Clark gets involved in all this drama, Like the
drama just follows her. All these WNBA haters are just like, ah,
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this girl, and she's the one driving the ratings.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
This shouldn't be the way it is.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
I'm going to take out all my aggression on her,
and Caitlyn's like, you know what, high road, high road,
high road. I feel like Baker got sucked into the drama.
You know, there are allowed critics of Baker Mayfield, and
he didn't have a chip on his shoulder. He had
a mountain on his shoulder. He's trying to prove everybody wrong.
I think that got in his way. I don't think
that helped him. I think it hurt him. But anyway,
(13:54):
Baker's become a lot more likable, got to Tampa better,
supporting cast, put up numbers. Feels feel like he's a
lot more likable than he used to be. The point is,
if Baker Mayfield, if he were the one rattling off
two MVPs and arguably should have been a three time
MVP with all the critics he faced earlier in his career,
(14:16):
he never would have shut up about that. You know
as well as I do. Baker would have been like you.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Doubted me, you thought I couldn't do it? Boom, what
do you know? MVP? Boom another MVP? What do you
have to say?
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Oh? He wouldn He would have been insufferable. And Lamar
never was like that. Lamar he never shoved it in
our faces. I really respect him for that because Lamar
he really is. He has more of a team first
attitude instead of Hey, I need my individual props. You
should be taking everything back. Remember when you said I
(14:50):
should have been a wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
I didn't forget that. He hasn't thrown that back out there.
He's just like, I'm focused on winning.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
You know.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
He just shoved all that to the side. He brushed
it off. He's like whatever. I respect him for that.
We got to see some playoff wins. Man, you can't
be arguably we should have been a three time MVP
and have three playoff wins. Gotta be way, way, way
better than that. And he's accountable, right. You heard in
the sound he's like, hey, if we don't turn the
ball over, which really means if I don't turn the
(15:17):
ball over, would probably win that game. So he's owned it.
I respect him for that. But listen, I would say this,
just state your opinion. I think Lamar has to win
more playoff games. I think that Lamar when the playoffs
roll around, is the most overrated player in the NFL.
There's nothing personal there. I just told you. I like
(15:39):
the guy. I like how he carries himself. I like
how he's team first. But you can't be that accomplished
in the regular season and wet yourself time and time
and time again in the playoffs. It can't It's not
good enough. He'd be the first one to tell you that.
But it's like, why would you shy away from that?
Just say what you think instead of like, oh, someone
(16:01):
might think that I really just like this guy and
I'm the latest hater and what what.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Are you doing?
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Just say what you think and don't worry if someone
like takes it for something that it isn't. I don't know, man,
I just think there's too much sugarcoating these days and
a lot of shying away from stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
I respect Lamar. I like Lamar a lot.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
I think he oftentimes turns into a pumpkin in the postseason.
He's got all the talent in the world to change that,
but until he does, he's an overrated player. When we
get to the postseason, the time that really matters, we'll
see if he turns that around. All right. Coming up next,
it's a very sad and crazy story. But could it
(16:46):
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Speaker 1 (17:02):
I'm Brian no In for Big Ben Mallor here on
Fox Sports Radio. Okay, So Henry Ruggs the Third is
in the news again. He was at an event on
Tuesday night. It's a special release from prison. He was
on special release from prison and so on Tuesday night
(17:24):
he spoke at a Hope for Prisoners event in Las Vegas,
and at that event he apologized to the family of
a woman he killed in a car crash that was
nearly four years ago. And here to help us talk
about that, Brian Horwath from The Vegas Journal Vegas Review
Journal joins us here on Fox Sports Radio. Brian, you
(17:47):
are at this event on Tuesday night. First off, welcome Inn.
How would you describe what that event was like with
Henry Ruggs the Third there, Well.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
It was interesting. I mean, he really has it's spoken
out at all since really his sentencing a few years ago.
So it was interesting. He was contrite. He was apologetic
to the family of Tina Tintor, who of course died
in that fiery crash back in November.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
Of twenty twenty one, and you know, he also said
he said a couple things that were pretty interesting, including
that he would like to play football again and even
possibly for the Raiders.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
I don't know if that's ever going to be a
realistic possibility, but he's certainly thinking about trying to get
in the NFL again once he gets out. He'll be
eligible for parole in August of next year, so that's
the soonest that he would he would get out.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Interesting, And I was thinking about this, Brian, with the
possibility of Henry Ruggs being released and wanting to play
football again, is anything it's put you on the spot.
Is there anything comparable in NFL history where someone did time,
came back and played again.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Can you think of anything off the top of your head.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
Well, yeah, we were talking about this earlier. Was it
in the early two thousands or the late nineties. If
you remember, there's a player I think his name was
Leonard Little I played with the Saint Louis ram and
I think he was the same kind of situation. He
was in a dy crashing, drinking and driving. Somebody died
in that crash. I want to say he did come
(19:33):
back and play after that. But but certainly, I mean
this would be, if not unprecedented, it's certainly very rare.
But you know, just looking at I mean, we're in
the room with Henry tonight in Las Vegas and basically
in this conference room, and boy, he looks good, he
(19:54):
looks healthy, he looks basically ripped. I mean, you gotta remember,
this guy's only twenty six years old. So look, if
a team wanted to give him a chance, I mean,
I don't know, there's a lot of baggage there, but
he certainly had a lot of talent. I mean in
twenty twenty one, I think he played seven or eight
(20:14):
games before that crash happened, and he had something like
around five hundred receiving yards, a couple of touchdowns. I mean,
he was kind of starting to come on. He was
a legitimate deep threat. So I don't know, I guess
we've probably seen stranger things happen, but it'll be interesting
to see what happens for sure.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
What do you think?
Speaker 1 (20:32):
And Brian Horwath is our guest here from the Vegas
Review Journal joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. Was
at this event on Tuesday night in Vegas. Henry Ruggs,
former Raiders wide receiver, speaking at a Hope for Prisoners
event and apologize to the family of the woman that
he killed in a car crash.
Speaker 7 (20:53):
What do you.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Think the percentage chance might be if you had to
take a guess of an l team who is looking
at this situation, knowing what happened, knowing the pr ramifications,
should they give Henry Ruggs a chance? What do you
think that, like the realistic possibility is that he plays
(21:13):
in the NFL again, I just.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Don't know, you know, honestly, Brian, I mean, it's it's
hard for me to believe that a team would want
to take on that baggage. But then you look at
you know, this is a young guy. He was kind
of starting to come into his own. He's one of
those one of those receivers. He's a deep threat. I
(21:36):
mean he's he at least was. We don't know what
he is now, but he was a very fast receiver
who's able to kind of take the top off of
the defense. You know, that's a coveted thing in the NFL,
as you know, so who knows. It does seem like
there's a lot of baggage, you know, he was out drinking.
He ends up driving his Corvette with his then girlfriend.
(22:00):
I think it's just fiance, you know, almost one hundred
and fifty miles an hour on our residential street here
in Las Vegas and ends up killing a woman. That's
that's a lot of baggage. But you know, on the
other hand, I mean, this is America, and you know what,
if you serve your time, I mean, Michael Vick served
as time was able to come back. I realized that's
(22:20):
a different situation. That's apples and argues. But you know,
who knows who knows. But it was certainly interesting to see.
I think the exact quote from Henry today was, hey,
look when I get out you know whatever that is,
he hopes it's next year, next August.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
He said, look, I'll be ready.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
So it'll definitely be very interesting.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Yeah, I would imagine that's that's a tough thing to balance,
right where you want to have dreams and goals and
look forward to your future.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
I mean that is understandable.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
But at the same time, when on one hand, Europe
still apologize for this horrible, horrible mistake that you made,
and then in your next breath you're talking about your future.
That's a really tough thing to balance.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
Yeah, I mean, and certainly. I mean, you know, when
Henry was talking tonight, he was basically in a room
full of the ex offenders who are kind of trying
to come back and be productive members of society. He
was also live stream, so there's some some folks in
(23:32):
prisons across Nevada who were also watching, and you know,
it was kind of interesting. A couple of those folks said, look, Henry,
you know, you're an inspiration to us, and you know,
he was. He was kind of inspiring to listen to.
You know, he said he's learned a lot. He was young,
he wasn't happy he was away from home. I mean,
(23:52):
he said he kind of escaped into that world of
essentially of drinking. Obviously made a horrible mistake. But again,
you know, we're talking about a guy who's twenty six
and he's saying, look, I want to come back and
make something out of myself again. So it was there
was a lot of emotion in that room today.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Yeah, I can imagine. So you know what's crazy is
I feel so stupid right now, Brian, because yeah, of
course I went back and looked at Henry Ruggs and
his numbers. Right, just looked at his stats and his
rookie season, he had what twenty six catches for about
four hundred and fifty yards, and then his second season,
in seven games a twenty four catches for a little
(24:35):
bit better, about four hundred and fifty yards.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
And I'm looking at twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
One and I'm like, huh, maybe he got hurt, maybe
a hamstring or something.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
I totally it's like, duh, that's when the crash.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Happened, Like you just said, a little while ago, that
was during the twenty one season, and the next thing,
you know, the Raiders released him and then he's, you know,
on his way to being sentenced.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
It took a little while.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
He pleaded guilty in May of three and was sentenced
in August of twenty three, and it was just a
three to ten year prison sentence, and like you said,
he's eligible for parole next August. Right.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
Yeah, And you know, there were certainly some folks who
raised an eyebrow at you know, hey, this this person
potentially he's responsible for taking someone else's life and he
gets potentially only three years that. You know, a lot
of things go into that he you know, he didn't
have prior.
Speaker 6 (25:29):
Offenses or anything like that. You know, he was.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
Also able to afford David Chesnoff, who's, you know, a
high price lawyer here in Las Vegas, and that certainly
didn't hurt his cause either. But hey, look, I mean tonight,
if for just just for the event, and I know
that there's a family that's that's hurting and they're gonna
be hurting forever, that's never gonna go away. You know,
(25:54):
he said all the right things tonight, So I don't know,
We'll see, We'll see what happens.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Has there any word from the victims family, Have they
said anything about how they feel right now about the
whole situation, or are they're just you know, kind of
living life on their own without making any statements like that.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
Well, it's funny. I was actually texting back and forth
with the victim's uncle, who has spoke out in the
past last few years a little bit, and you know,
he had no idea that Henry wouldn't be speaking at
this event. We didn't know this was going on. Henry
himself said that he was just asked to do this
(26:35):
on Saturday, so he just basically just decided that the
time was right he wanted to talk a little bit
about his experience. So and Tina, Tintor's uncle just said,
he told me in a text message, Look, there's there's
so much that goes into He was actually at work
tonight and he said, look, I don't want to, you know,
(26:58):
make one or two comments to mug talk later. Obviously
a lot there was a lot of emotion that went
into that whole thing, A lot of emotion for that family.
So you know that's something obviously that's not going to
go away after.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Yeah, no doubt, I totally hear you on that. It's
it becomes so complicated so fast, you know, because I
think about it. I have two nephews who I absolutely adore,
and they're around the same age when Tina was killed, right,
And so if I put myself in that position, like
you're texting back and forth with the uncle, me as
(27:36):
an uncle, if one of my nephews died the same way,
I would have a huge problem with that. But at
the same time, it's not like I want to make
I don't want to text you something and that could
impact that person's life going forward. It becomes really complicated,
really fast. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
Absolutely. I mean I don't blame them for that, you know,
I can say that certainly the family did you know,
wonder if maybe that was a little bit light of
a sentence. And I think anyone could probably understand if
you're in their shoes as well. So it's it's a
difficult situation. You know, there were never any winners in this,
(28:22):
you know, Henry his family had to go through all this,
and of course Tina Tintor's family, So it's just a
really a really tragic, tragic situation.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Absolutely. Well, Hey, Brian, I appreciate you taking a couple
of minutes. Man, Thanks for your time here in the
early morning, and I hope you have a good day.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
We'll catch you down the road.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Absolutely there.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
He is Brian Horwath from the Vegas Reviewed Journal. He
was at that event former Raiders wide receiver Henry Ruggs.
He was on special release from prison. On Tuesday night,
he spoke at a Hope for Prisoners event in Las
Vegas and he apologized to the family of a woman
he killed in a car crash. That was nearly four
years ago. So this was in November of twenty one
(29:08):
and like Brian said, Ruggs was driving a sports car
around one hundred and fifty six miles per hour in
a residential area and he slammed into the back of
Tina Tintour's vehicle. He killed her and her dog, and
so he pled guilty. Ruggs did in May of twenty three.
He pled guilty to felony dui causing death and misdemeanor
(29:31):
vehicular manslaughter. He was sentenced in August of twenty three
to a three to ten year prison sentence. That ay,
that's wild that it could be only three years I remember,
And this is a weird full circle moment. But coincidentally,
June seventeenth, which is when this show started on the
(29:54):
West coast, at least on Tuesday, that was the anniversary
of the OJ Bronco chase in LA Isn't.
Speaker 7 (30:03):
That weird how big events tend to happen like that
at the same time.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
But the weird twist is OJ commented on the Henry
Rugg situation.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Oh and he was like three years.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Like OJ was like, something doesn't add up right there,
you know, And so that's what came to mind, is
OJ commented on the Henry Rugg situation, and the Bronco
Chase was Tuesday, you know, June seventeenth, So that's funny
how that worked together. But yeah, that's uh. I think
Brian said it best.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
There are no winners.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
But the tough part is imagine if you are one
of Tina Tintour's loved ones, like he mentioned texting with
the uncle I'm an uncle, if one of my nephews
died like that, for in that manner, like that's how
they went, I would be I don't know how to
(31:01):
describe it. I'd be out of my mind if that happened.
Speaker 7 (31:04):
I find it very very difficult to believe that he
will play in the NFL again.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
I find it very difficult too.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
But he did bring up Leonard Little and I do
remember him at the University of Tennessee. You remember him
with the Rams. I'd have to look back at the exact.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I did look it up.
Speaker 7 (31:24):
It was his rookie season, killed a woman drunk driving incident,
and he played involuntary manslaughter. And then he did continue
to play and have a career. And I don't know
what the the like the details were, the little details
of that, but I mean, you know, some of the
(31:45):
details of the rug situation, you know, one hundred and
fifty six miles an hour on the you know, on
the like on the street, and then like the manner
in which you know the woman and her dog died, right,
it's it's you know.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
I know, I hear you.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
I think I'd have to look back Dante Stalwarth, the
former wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
I know.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
I Again, I'd have to find out all the details.
I'm not saying it's the exact same thing, but there
might have been some similarities where he was drinking and
there was some sort of accident, And again I'd have
to refresh myself with all the details.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
But I hear you.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
It seems like, man, I don't know that an NFL
team is going to sign up for that. But when
there are some other examples, we'll see, we'll see. I
don't know, maybe he has to take the scenic route
and go to the UFL for a little bit first,
or I don't know what, but it's possible. It's pretty
(32:53):
wild to say, like, think about this next season, not
this coming season, the twenty twenty five season, but next year,
the twenty twenty sixth season. He could be out of
prison and trying to make a roster. That's wild to
think about, but that could be the reality.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
We'll see how it shakes out, all right.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Coming up next, a member of the militia checks in
interesting comparison in terms of being targeted. We'll share that
with you. Coming up, it's Fox Sports Radio. I'm Brian
no In for Big Ben Maller.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
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Speaker 1 (33:37):
It is Fox Sports Radio. I'm Brian no In for
Big Ben Maler. So let me get to a tweet
from the militia and we'll give you some some crack
research we've been doing here, which is it might be
a sign of the apocalypse now that I'm thinking about it.
But first off, the tweet here, So we were talking
about Caitlin Clark for a little bit. There was a
(34:00):
dust up in the Fever Connecticut Sun game on Tuesday
night and there was a player playing defense on Caitlyn Clark.
She got raked across the face. Caitlyn pushed this girl
and then Caitlyn got pushed to the floor by Marina Maybry.
There's some bad blood later in the game. Sophia Cunningham,
(34:21):
she got even j C. Sheldon, that was the player
that accidentally raked Caitlin across the face. At the end
of the game, Sophie Cunningham committed a hard foul on her.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
And got tossed for it.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
So there was some fisticuffs on Tuesday night in the
Sun v.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Fever showdown. But I just threw out the.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Question, where is there an athlete, regardless of sport, regardless
of league, that has gotten basically the Caitlyn Clark treatment
from other players in the league.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
And you know how it's played out.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
A lot of jealousy going on with the other NBA players,
and we've seen many instances of it play out where
Caitlin has been targeted. She's been knocked around quite a bit.
There's been physical play and not just your standard Hey,
that was a hard file, Like well, that was a
complete cheap shot, Like you were clearly bent about this
(35:18):
girl getting a lot of attention and notoriety. And I
was just curious if you've heard other athletes make statements
against the player the way WNBA players have of the
last year and a half with Caitlin Clark since she's
been in the WNBA and the way she's been targeted
(35:39):
within the lines. And so Sheila checked in at the
no Show on AX and said, I think Shador Sanders
was targeted during the draft and not sure that he
will be on the field of play, but that's as
close as I can come to anything in recent history.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
I would actually take it back to college, you know,
if you would go back to college. Was there a
little bit of I don't know, extra hot sauce on
the line there?
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Right, Like some players that are going against Shaduur.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Sanders and they're like, all right, this guy with kind
of like the watch dance and Shador has flair, shadu
Or has charisma, Shaduur likes to dance. Sometimes you like
to dance in your face. Not every competitor loves that.
So was there a little bit of extra there with
some of the opponents when he was back in college. Yeah,
(36:37):
I would say there's a little extra at times, some
extra motivation and maybe plant him into the turf, you know,
preferably legally, but if illegally, you know.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. Was there
a little bit of that in college?
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Yeah, I would say in now the person that tweeted,
they're talking about the draft specifically, and I mean I
don't know that that's a different deal than Caitlin Clark.
Like Caitlin Clark's at number one overall pick. I mean,
you got some jealous players, but front offices are totally
(37:16):
sold on Caitlin.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
They're like, what's there to think about?
Speaker 1 (37:18):
This girl bombs threes, she's a past first point guard, Like,
she's unbelievable in college. Her game translates perfectly to the WNBA,
Like every front office is sold on her. So that's
where it differs with Shador. I don't know that you
could say he was like targeted by front offices. I
(37:40):
still don't quite understand what they were thinking. Where there
are a lot of teams that still need starting quarterbacks
and they're just like, yeah, no, no thanks, is it
really that bad?
Speaker 2 (37:54):
So it was like confusing.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
It was strange when she'd do showed that he's at
least talented enough to be a higher draft pick than
a fifth rounder.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yeah, I mean, hey, call it what you will.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Where it's a weird evaluation or it's being skeptical to
a fault. I don't know, however you want to describe it,
but I don't think it's it's similar to Caitlin Clark
as far as that part of it goes, as far
as the details that might be a sign of the apocalypse.
Coop was looking up these details. We were just talking
(38:32):
about Henry Ruggs, the former Raiders wide receiver, and some
of the details involving his trunk driving crime, and we're
thinking this is all like, might he play in the
NFL again? And you compare it to Leonard Little played
for the Rams in the NFL, Dante Stalworth who was
a wide receiver in the NFL, and some of the
(38:54):
details here, Coop, Like, I wrote down some of the
things you said. So Dante Stalworth, he was released after
you're serving twenty four days of a thirty day sentence.
He was driving over the legal limit, killed someone and
served twenty four days.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
That is it.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Leonard Little, he had a point one point nine and
was driving back from a birthday party, killed a woman.
Ninety day sentence played in the league. Like, the thing
that's different is there was video of Henry Rugg's situation.
You know, there was I remember the fiery vehicle that
(39:32):
the victim died in. You're seeing that on TV. So
that could stick with NFL teams, that could That could
differ quite a bit from the other two situations, but
there is a precedent at least for similar crimes in
those players getting back to the league. Hey, coming up next.
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