June 18, 2025 • 39 mins
Brian Noe talks about the Florida Panthers closing out the Edmonton Oilers in Game 6 of the Stanley Cup Final to win their 2nd straight championship, the Fever and Sun getting into a scuffle after more cheap shots at Caitlin Clark, and much more!
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Speaker 3 (00:30):
Oh what is going on?
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Good morning to you, Happy Tuesday, late night evening on
the West Coast and early Wednesday morning on the East Coast.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Appreciate you checking out. The show. Lots to dive into.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Of course, as I always say, ball on the brain,
have plenty of football abnormal I think, correct me if
I'm wrong, abnormally.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Positive mini camp statements.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
We'll throw some audio your way. As far as that
goes a little bit of estrogen. In the show tonight,
a number of topics from the lady side of sports
I think are very interesting. Dive into a few of those,
and we started off with some champions over here.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Huh.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
We crowned a champ on Tuesday night as the Florida
Panthers win back to back Stanley Cups. Over the Edmonton
Oilers and basically the entire country of Canada. I think
is what happened. Right there is Canada trying to win
a Stanley Cup for the first time since ninety three,
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did not happen yet again, and Florida goes back to back.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
This is actually the final call.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
You gotta love the final call of a Stanley Cup
series clinching win unless you root for the other team.
Of course, this is on the Panthers radio network. Check
this out down to the final five seconds.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Re train down.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Cort Stanley staying in South Florida last year was greatness.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
This time it's historic.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
The Florida Panthers urt back to back Stanley Cup champions.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Okay, now I have lots to say about this. First off,
props to rats rain down. I love that. That's the
whole thing with the Florida Panthers. They throw rats, not
real rats, but just like fake rats on the ice.
There was a hat trick for Sam Ryan Hart and
they actually scored four goals in the game, tied an
NHL record for the most goals in a Stanley Cup
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final game. But they throw these fake rats on the
ice to get a hat trick.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
And so I love that.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Like at the end, you know they're about to win
the Cup and all these fake rats are being thrown
on the ice. Now that was that was spontaneous. That
was impromptu right there, rats rained down. It's a good
drop right there.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
But the end. Not a fan of the end.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
I swear these broadcasters and listen, I'm guilty of it too.
It's you almost have to guard it against it because
it does help on one hand, you know, like if
you're doing sports radio play by play, it does help
a little bit to write a few ideas down. But
I feel like in play by play especially, you can
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tell when it's just so preorchestrated and you're like, that's
just not spontaneous. It doesn't feel like you're just in
the moment when you say something where it's like you
didn't just come up with that, clearly you thought about it.
Like Jim Nance is doing the Super Bowl in Vegas
and he's like, all right, all right, I gotta think
of something here, regardless of who wins, if it's the
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Chiefs or it's the forty nine ers, how about jackpot,
huh Vegas jackpot. Yeah, let's do that. He didn't think
of that right on the spot. There's no way, yeah, Vegas.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
So some of that stuff, I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Maybe I'm too picky when it comes to that, but
I do love the spontaneous calls, and I just don't
buy that it was spontaneous to be like last year
was I forget what he said last year was something.
This year it's historic something along those lines. I think
that was a premeditated call right there. That's a premeditated
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call if I've ever heard one. But I don't want
to rain on the parade, which I am. I'm raining
on the play by play call. But the con smythe
trophy that is the NHL's very fancy way of saying
the MVP.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
This was the announcement on TNT. Here you go.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
It's only fitter that this year it goes to the
leading goal scorer Sam Bennett, yep, Sam Bennett Studeley throughout
the NHL playoffs, he wins the con smythe otherwise known
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as the MVP. I think that's easier to understand. But whatever,
the NH plays by its own rules, it's fine, you know,
and Bennett was deserving, for sure, I thought Brad marshand
was tremendous in the final. He was on the short list.
My guy, Bob Sergei, Bobrovski. He was awesome throughout the
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Stanley Cup Final. The goalie for the Florida Panthers, very
hard to score on, won a handful of bets just
playing his saves over. I think there was only one
game in the six game series where he went under.
It was Game five. There weren't as many shots on goal,
but that dude was just stopping puck after puck after
puck throughout the series. So shout out to Bob and
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as far as Edmondson goes, what do you know, the
musical goalies thing? Not a great approach, Not the greatest
of approaches right there. They've done this throughout the playoffs
as well. It wasn't just the Stanley Cup Final. Edmonton
had been switching between Stuart Skinner and Calvin Pickard and
they got away with it earlier in the NHL playoffs,
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but not as much in the Stanley Cup Final. The
Cliffs Notes version, if you fast forward to the final,
Game four wasn't going very well for Skinner. He gets yanked.
Pickard goes in there and plays great. He stops like
twenty one of twenty two shots right around that, actually
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twenty two of twenty three shots he stopped off the
bench in Game four, and so the Oilers are like, well,
deck with it, Let's roll with this guy. He's actually
stopping shots. Let's go with Pickard in game five. Game
five not as good, not as good for Pickard. Edmonton
lost five to two. So Edmonton's like all right heading
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into Tuesday night Game six, backs against the wall, trying
to stave off elimination.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Right, let's go back to Skinner.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Let's go back to the guy who we just revoked
all of his confidence from him. We just stole like
a thief in the night, like two games ago. You suck.
Let's get you out of the game. Now, you know
what I think. There's something about this Skinner guy. You
know last year when we were down three to nothing,
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we stuck with Skinner and bye gosh. He was good
for three straight games and we forced a game seven.
So let's go with Skinner and he was not up
for the task. Panthers won five to one, had an
empty net goal, two empty net goals. But when Skinner
gives up three before all the Shenanigans late. It's just
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not a great outing. So listen, I'm not mister Hockey
by any stretch, but I do know a thing or
two about confidence, and it's I understand the thinking.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
On one hand, where if Skinner stinks in game four
and this is go time, man, we need this game,
and then you make the change, Pickard goes in there
plays awesome, Well, it kind of just rights itself where
you go with Pickard the next game and then Pickard
isn't any good and then you go back to Skinner.
I get how we got here, but the end result
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is that it's not shocking that Skinner didn't play great
on Tuesday night because you just benched him a couple
of nights ago. So it's not that shocking to me.
I understand how it happened, why it happened, but that's
the aftermath.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
It's not just I think that's the thing.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
I think it's easier to get caught up in the
game to game scenario of a series instead of looking
at the series as a whole. And you know, the
oilers made that change which in game four, just that
game itself made sense, but the series as a whole.
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If you're thinking, man, if we got to go back
to I don't know if this dude is gonna be like, Man,
I've got all the confidence in the world right after
getting benched like a game and a half ago.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
You know.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
So it might have affected his performance in Game six,
but in any event, shout out to the Florida Panthers
getting it done. They are the champs back to back. Man,
that's rough. When you lose in the Stanley Cup Final
to the same team in two straight years, that's that's
extra rough right there. That is, And especially in the
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sport of hockey. I would feel like if I was
a die hard fan of a particular hockey team, I
would feel like, we are right on the freaking doorstep.
We are right there, you know, like a goal here,
a goal there, a save here, save there, we might
have won this thing. I think that makes it even
harder to take, especially as a player, but as a fan,
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you think the nature of certain sports like basket sometimes
these basketball games we just saw Game five the other night,
Pacers lost by eleven points. You know that a handful
of possessions right there. You're not, Hey, if it just
that one shot, we would have had it. There's a
little bit more to that. I think this the nature
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of the sports has a lot to do with the
heartache as well. And some of these Stanley Cup Final
games were just unbelievable off the charts. You know, Game
two was tough for Edmonton, could have taken a two
to nothing lead, they lost in double overtime. And some
of these these games, they a couple of them got
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tied up with like twenty seconds to go empty net situations.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
It was wild.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
I think, all things considered, really good Stanley Cup Final.
I thought the end, like the the crescendo, left a
lot to be desired. You know, the deciding game, Game
six on Tuesday night, it's a five to one game.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
It's not a close game.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
That's that's a tough way to the series. I hope
that the NBA Finals don't end in similar fashion where
you want it to be.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Like.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Both game fours were tremendous NHL and NBA. That was
the in the.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
NHL, that was the five to four Edmondson win. Edmonton
was down three to nothing in that game. They tied
it up, they took the lead, then Florida tied it
with twenty seconds to go to force overtime, and then
Edmonton won the game. It was crazy, an insane win
for them. In the NBA Finals Game four, that was
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the road win for Oksei're down by ten points in
the fourth quarter, they fight all the way back, dramatic
close to the game, going like a twelve to one
run in the final couple minutes, and they win the game.
Game fours in both NBA and NHL were off the charts.
And that's the crazy twist I feel with hockey. Games
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don't bleed into each other as much. You know, they
seem to be pretty separate a lot of times. And
that Game four masterpiece for the Oilers. They fight back
from a three nothing deficit. They're down three to nothing
at the end of the first period. Down three to
nothing is like in football, you're down like twenty four
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nothing or something right away. Good luck coming back from that,
and they did. Edmonton came all the way back, won
this dramatic game in overtime. The series is tied up,
they're going home, They've got all the momentum and boom
smacked right in the face. Oilers lose five to two,
and then again tonight five to one. That's pretty crazy.
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Think about that too. If you're an Edmonton fan after
Game four, you're watching that, you're down three to nothing
in the first period, You're like, this sucks. We're gonna
be down three to one in the series. Here we
go again. Not so fast. Edmonton comes back in epic fashion.
They win the game. All right, we're cooking with grease.
Let's go as the last game, Edmonton one. That's the
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brutal nature of sports, right there, man, But that's the
way it goes sometimes in any event. Props to Florida.
They get it done. They are the champions as they
do it in back to back fashion.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Right there, all right?
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It is Fox Sports Radio. I'm Brian no In for
Big Ben Maller. It sounds like Loraina is excited for Vegas.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
You know. I texted Danny G.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
It's the producer of Cavino and Rich and I was like, hey,
I always call him DG. I don't know why. That's
just my nickname for Danny Danny G Radio. I thought
it was Danny Gradio for a long time. That's a
honest mistake by me. Yes, yeah, but I call him
DG for Danny G Radio. I'm like, Yo, DG, You're
gonna be in Vegas. He's like, yep, I'll be here.
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And I'm like, so, what's going on?
Speaker 3 (15:03):
You guys?
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Got events going on like crazy for a Covino and Rich.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
They're celebrating again. Long baby, Larina. He sent me the rundown.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Yes, there's not like a minute to spare the whole weekend.
They got everything mapped out. It's crazy.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
You can find me all the day Friday.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Yeah, you're gonna be uh.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
I know, Covino and Rich are doing their show from
Stadium Swim and they had all kinds of events.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
I brought six different bathing suits and I don't know
which one to wear.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Is it gonna be like, uh, you know, like an
awards show where you keep changing outfits.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Is that the way it's gonna go?
Speaker 5 (15:39):
It might?
Speaker 3 (15:40):
It might each half hours a new Uh.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
That's what I was thinking, Like I could do an
outfit change every hour.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Maybe that's the way to go. That'll always be memorable,
you know, definitely. I think you're a different person each time.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
But like, oh, Lorena's in the orange baby, No.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
No, she's not.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Gonna be like where's the girl in the two piece?
Like she's gone, She's nowhere to be found anymore.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
Oh my gosh, is that her in the jungle print
over there?
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Wild?
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Yeah? And you know how it goes.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
People be drinking and they're not gonna be able to
put that together. They're gonna have no idea what's going on.
Oh yeah, I'm definitely gonna stop by. I guess they're
doing stuff all weekend. The gambling portion really caught my attention.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
I was sure it did.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
It's like, come and gamble with us. We're gonna gamble
to the wee hours of the night. I was like, now, this,
this is a good idea by Cavino and Rich.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
So shout out to them.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Hope you they have a great time here in Vegas
and do all sorts of fun stuff. Okay, so there
was some drama. There was some bad blood in the
w NBA on Tuesday night.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
There you go. You excited for this, coop?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Some enthusiasm. Beautiful.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
So the Indiana Fever they were hosting the Connecticut Son. Now,
you might not care about the WNBA, you might not
care about women's basketball.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
It's fine, might not be your cup of tea. I
watched it all the freaking time. I do.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
And I was watching the game, well, I actually I
flipped over. I was watching the game and the Fever
brore up by so much I flipped over to the
Liberty game started watching.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
They were in a they were in a.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Back and forth with the Atlanta Dream and Jeff Schwartz,
I host with him on Saturdays here on Fox Sports Radio.
He texted me and he was like, did you see
the Sun try to punk Caitlin? And I said, no,
I missed it. So I flipped over and saw that
it was a little bit of bad blood in that game.
So the situation here is that Caitlin Clark, She's being
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guarded by a Connecticut's Connecticut's son rookie named j. C.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Sheldon.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Okay, so Jace, she's doing her job. She's being up
Caitlyn Clark, and she tries to swipe down on the ball.
She accidentally swipes down on Caitlyn's face. You know, the
face got in the way of swiping down of the ball,
and so she rakes Caitlyn across the face and Caitlyn
she's holding her face and she kind of stumbles backward
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into J. C. Sheldon, and so Caitlyn's like, get it,
get off me. She kind of pushes j. C. Sheldon,
you know, just not like a full on shove. It's
just like I just got hit in the eye or
the face, and now you're bumping into me, like, get
off me. So she pushes JC a little bit and
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then that's what led to the little brew.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Haha, huh.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
You had Tina Charles rush over immediately she puts her
face near Caitlyn's puts her finger near Kitlyn's face, and
then Marina Maybray she ran over and she shoved Caitlyn
to the floor.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Ding ding ding.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
We got no holds barred action right here in the WNBA.
So the third part of this was Tina Charles got
a tech. Marina Maybray, you got a tech for pushing
Caitlin to the floor. And Caitlin Clark got a technical
foul when she just you know, you got hit in
the face and then she subtly shoved if you can
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do such a thing J. C.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Sheldon.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
So the Indiana Fever, they're ticked off that Caitlin Clark
one got a technical foul and probably two that more
didn't happen to Marina Maybury. Now me personally, I don't
think Maybury should have gotten tossed. They always talk about
a flagrant two foul where it's wind up its impact
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and then it's followed through like this was a.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Light shove by Marina Maybray.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
I don't think she should have gotten tossed for that.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
That's just me.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
The Indiana Fever clearly disagreed they were ticked off. She
did not get ejected for that. Now you fast forward
to the very end of the game, it's payback time, baby.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
So the same player, J C.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Sheldon, she's on a fast break, she's running right down
the floor and there's Sophie Cunningham. Now you might not
know Sophie Cunningham by name, but she catches headlines a
lot of times because she's a beautiful girl. She's a
blonde girl, very pretty. Sometimes you'll see her, I don't know,
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videos are posted like hey, look at what she's wearing
heading into the WNBA game, that sort of thing. She
was accused of hooking up with the like a headhun
show with the Sun's slash Phoenix Mercury, the last team
she played for. Don't know what's true, but that was
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in the news. Maybe you know her from that. In
any event, Sophie Cunningham sees J. C. Sheldon on a
fast break and she's like, this is a great opportunity
for some payback right here. So she grabs her by
the head and basically throws her to the floor. Then
there's pushing and shoving and all that sort of stuff.
So a couple of injections, Stephanie White gets the gate,
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a couple of Sun players get ejected as well. So
it was a fun night in the WNBA. So aggressive, yeah,
very aggressive. So a couple of things stand out. One,
it is still wild to me, and I don't I
don't think there's a great comparison. You guys are more
than welcome to throw a comparison my way. Can you
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think of a superstar in a league that is targeted
by other players as much as Caitlin Clark is. I
can't think of another example of a superstar that is
targeted as much, you know, on the court, on the
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field of play, whatever sport we're talking about, between the lines, right,
that sort of thing clearly targeted, not just this year,
even Tuesday night. It's the lightest of shoves by Caitlin Clark.
She just got raked across the face, subtle shove of J. C.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Sheldon.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Immediately, Tina Charles and Marina Maybray.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Are like, I can't believe that b were just did that.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Shovel to the floor like they are freaking ready to go.
They cannot wait to put Caitlyn on her backside, you know.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
And this is a sort of thing that's happened last
year as well.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Was it Kennedy Carter then of the Chicago Sky Like
there was just a simple inbounds play, Caitlyn was about
to get the ball, and Kennedy Carter just ran up
and decleted her like it's I don't know, a slant
pattern in the NFL, and she's the defensive back or something,
and Angel Reese jumps up starts clapping like crazy, Like
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the animosity to Caitlin Clark really is next level.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
I've been trying to think of something that rivals it, and.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
If we're talking about physical play and being targeted that way,
I started to think about Michael Jordan back when we
had the Jordan rules with the Detroit Pistons, and I'm like,
is that even a decent comparison? Does that even equate?
And I don't think it's the same thing. I think
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that Jordan. The Pistons clearly beat the hell out of Jordan,
but a lot of it was within the rules, you know,
Jordan would come down the lane, go up to try
to score and they would plant him into the floor.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
You know, they.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Would like gronk spike him into the floor. But it
was within the flow of the game. You're not gonna
see on YouTube some video where Jordan was about to
get the inbounds pass and you know John Sally just
comes over and decletes him. A lah Kennedy Carter on
Caitlyn Clark like you're not gonna find that. And so, yeah,
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Jordan was targeted by the Pistons, but it was in
a different way. It wasn't the same way with Caitlyn
where there's clearly it goes beyond. Like that's the weird
thing about these WNBA players. If they just came right
out and said it, I would respect it a lot
more if they just came out and said, yeah, I
just don't like her, don't like her, I don't.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
I hate to say this. It's totally a girl thing.
We're so catty like that. And with Caitlyn Clark being
the exceptional player that she is, Yeah, it's hard not
to do it, you don't you know we do it
passive aggressively, right, Well, well, we'll pull your hair.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
In the locker room. But we're not gonna be like, oh, yeah, no,
I don't like her. No, she know, she's fine. I
don't not like her. She's fine.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
And that's what annoys me. Where it's you clearly did
they like her?
Speaker 5 (24:58):
That's with her? They yeah, no, no, one actually likes her.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
And I would have more respect if they just flat
out came out and said it. No.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
They won't do that.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
I know they won't, but.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
That's why I don't respect it when they're like, oh no, no, no,
this is clearly just about competition, okay, all right, yes, Like,
how is it benefiting you if it's just out of competition.
If you just knock her to the floor before the
ball is inbounded, that's actually hurting your team. If it's
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all about competition, that's a bad thing. It's all sorts
of others. If they just came round and said, look,
I'm over all the tension this girl gets, it's too much.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
I don't like it.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
And yeah, if I got a chance to knock her
to the floor, I'm gonna take it. I would totally
respect that. But to Loraina's point, they're not going to
say that they're gonna play it off and act like, oh, no, no,
there's there's nothing extra on this. No, no, no, no,
we're just sticking up for our teammates. No, we're just
you know, it's top petition, it's in the flow of
the game.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
It's BS. It's total BS frustration.
Speaker 7 (26:08):
It's wanding their whole lives for the WNBA to matter,
and then it finally does, but it's only because of
Caitlyn and Clark, and that's all anybody actually cares about.
And then when they see stories that, oh, Caitlyn Clark
missed five games and nobody watched the WNBA for those
five games, you know, or for those five days or
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whatever it was, then you know they're just they feel invalidated,
and somebody take their aggression out on her because she's
so much better than all of them.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
You're totally right, Coop, You laid it out where that's
a lot of the frustration is uh like, and Angel
Reese said this last year, she was like, they watched
for me too, right, Like, they're not just watching for
one player. I wonder who that one player was. She's
probably talking about Djona Carrington.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Now I'm just kidding. Of course he's talking about Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Right, she came right out out and said, you know,
y'all watch for me too, like they want to have.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
The limelight as well.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
And yeah, you're right, Coop, there is so much animosity
where now the league is finally getting better ratings and
better ticket sales and it's getting some relevancy and and
they're like, we've been grinding for years, decades, and now
we're finally starting to get some limelight and they don't
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like accepting that it's largely because of Caitlin Clark, and
a lot of people have a problem with that being
the way it played out, as if it's Caitlin's fault,
Caitlin's That's the funny thing, too, is for all this
drama that surrounds Caitlin, she's the least dramatic person ever.
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She could easily make all this stuff way more dramatic.
Speaker 7 (27:56):
And you know that makes them, I have that probably
in furiates them.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Absolutely, you're right about that. Look at Coop just on
point tonight. Right, No, that's that's absolutely true. If you
are upset and you know you're trying to bring someone
down with you and they're just not taking the bait.
Oh that is annoying. That is very annoying. And yeah,
I think there's an element to that as well. But
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for all this drama that Caitlyn is connected to, she's
always downplayed it. She's always lessened the drama instead of
you know, when she's decleted by Kennedy Carter last year,
she could have easily been like, yeah, that was a
cheap shot.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
I don't know what that was about.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
And just statement after statement after statement, Yeah, a bunch
of clowns on that team or whatever.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
She's just creating more and more drama. She's just like,
you know, hey, yeah it happened. You know, we move on.
That's it.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
She even said it on Tuesday night. There were questions
about Sophie Cunningham. Fair question It is my guy James
Boyd in the Indianapolis area. Totally fair questions. But Kayln
just wants to talk about hoops. Is a little portion
of how it played out it, Fowl, you think it's
like defending Caitlyn or defending the team, or how do
you view just how it opened?
Speaker 3 (29:15):
I do it as a flager. Fowl. That's about the
game too.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Yeah, Well, I mean, you guys came to basketball.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Yeah, what do you think of just how you all
were able to pull in a second half Caitlyn in
particularly the Commissioner Cup Championship.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
That's guy.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
You all want to talk about that. Let's talk about that, right.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
So it's like she's not interested in extending the drama,
if you will. She just wants to play basketball and
focus on hoops. She is the most like, can we
just make it about basketball?
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Can we just do that? And uh man, there's this.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Drama just surrounds It just keeps following her around.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
It is wild.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
But can you come up with an example, Coop or Lorena?
Can you think of any athlete in any sport, in
any league where the league targets that star athlete the
way the WNBA targets Caitlin or is clearly bent about
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the attention and the accolades, the props that she gets.
I can't think of anything even remotely close to this.
Speaker 7 (30:22):
No, not really, But I do have a comparison for
you and I guess they didn't really get that same
kind of treatment. But I wonder if it's gonna be
the same as far as the impact. I'm wondering how
close she is to like Ronda Rousey for example. Right,
So she came in was so dominant, like better than
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everybody else.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Against tomato cans. But yes, go ahead, Yes, but that's because.
Speaker 7 (30:53):
Wow, I'm having a flashback to like ten years ago
or whatever it was. No, but I mean it's because
it was still kind of like in its infancy, you know,
or like the popularity of of women's MMA fighting, you know,
was in its infancy, and then she came along, was
a superstar, and I feel like it kind of like
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even after she's gone, it drove up the popularity of
women's MMA. You still you see you know, you know,
them making the the you know, the main card or
the main event all the time. And I wonder if
she's going to have that same effect, you know, after
after she's done in the w NBA, will that have
does you know she inspiring lots of you know, girls
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that wouldn't have played basketball before, and it's going to
keep the w NBA up or is or is you know,
once she's gone or once she's washed.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Up, is it just going to go back to Sure? No, Yeah,
I hear what you're saying right there.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
It's a little bit like like that accidental We're going straight,
that's not the one.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
I mean, it's a little like what you're talking about.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
It makes me think of the Steph Curry effect right
where stuff comes along. He's this brilliant talent. He's inspiring
a lot of young basketball players to play the game
or to try to play the game similar to him,
like that, we're not trying to practice layups. We're trying
to practice logo threes. You're only nine years old.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Who cares? Like we want to do this.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
It's different because the NBA has been relevant for a
long time.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
But I hear your point.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
You took it in a bit of a different direction,
which is fine. I just think with the Rousey thing
and I hear your comparison. I get it from that standpoint. Yeah,
it makes me wonder, Well.
Speaker 7 (32:44):
I don't remember did other female MMA fighters back in
those days?
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Did they all hate her? No? Right, no, not like
not like Caitlin.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
You didn't have comments of like, yeah, this sport has
been relevant for a long time. It's not just relevant
now because one player, you know, they never got that caddy.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Not to the same degree.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
It gives me a Drake and Kendrick vibes. Yeah, like,
no one needs to see it.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Yeah, okay, yeah, Well, feel free to hit us up
if you've got a comparison. I'm just thinking of the
way the WNBA just relishes, you know, like dropping the
people's elbow on Caitlin Clark if you will, during games,
and some of the comments that they've made that they're
clearly bent about the props and attention that this squirrel gets.
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Is there a superstar in any sport, in any league
that's even remotely comparable to that?
Speaker 3 (33:43):
I really can't think of one.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
I think Coop came up with a pretty good example
with Ronda Rousey, even though I don't think it was
nearly his caddy in UFC when she was doing her thing.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
But feel free to hit us up.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
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That's right.
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We got multiple people here, so who you got even
more opportunities to tweet up a storm. So Jalen Williams
of the Oklahoma City Thunder. He scored forty points, he
went ballistic. It was the best game of his young career.
So the twenty four year old is the fifth youngest
player to score forty points in an NBA Finals game.
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There are four players that were younger than Jalen Williams
when they scored forty points in an NBA Finals game.
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You got four names to come up with. Good luck.
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Speaker 4 (34:54):
It is Fox Sports Radio. I'm Brian no In for
Big Ben Mallor. You know it's funny and I hear rage.
I don't always think of you, Coop, but now that
we're doing the show together tonight, I do think of you.
And the time we're supposed to go see them for like,
what was it like nine hundred dollars a piece or
something crazy like that. I couldn't believe how much the
Rage Show was. That's insanity. What No, it was like
(35:16):
I'm embellishing, but it was at least like four hundred bucks.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Yeah, then the it was like four point fifty or
something like that. I'm like, for a concert.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
I'm so used to metal shows where it's like twenty
five thirty bucks max general admission, go wherever you want.
Speaker 7 (35:34):
It would have been worth it.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
I would have gone. But man, that's that's a heavy
price tag right there. And COVID how.
Speaker 6 (35:43):
Much an usher ticket was, and he might feed you cherries.
Now that is worth it.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
What's the most you've spent on a concert ticket, Lorena?
Speaker 5 (35:53):
I don't like to spend money on concert tickets. I
like to win them.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Okay, you're more in that. Yeah, I did.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
I think I spent like eighty dollars on a Saint
John ticket.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
You know, I I really don't know what I've spent,
but it's probably in that neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
I don't think i've I don't know that I've hit
triple digits.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
What I don't know if I would.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
I don't know that I have coop because most of
the shows have been metal shows. You know, I saw
BB King four times?
Speaker 7 (36:23):
Hold on, what when was the I could guarantee when
was the last year that you've seen Metallica?
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Okay, I only saw Metallica one time. But you're in
the Lamb of God open for him? It was probably
around I was in Fresno at the time, so it
was like seven or eight.
Speaker 7 (36:42):
That had to have been close to triple digits.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
I didn't pay for it.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
It was because it was a meet and greet with
the Lambs gotcha. Their album was coming out. I can't
remember what album it was. It might have been Wrath
at the time, I don't remember.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
But it was funny.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
You just went into this room and they brought in
like the CD player and they brought in their their
latest album. He just sat there and listened to some
of the songs and then the band came in and
said what's up and took pictures with you. It's actually
pretty cool, but it was just very random. And that
was the same show Metallica was was there.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
It was pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
But Coop, what's your uh, what's the damage you've suffered
financially for the most expensive concert?
Speaker 7 (37:28):
It might have been. I mean that one was up there,
but I don't know that that was the most expensive.
Lady Gaga was pretty expensive, Okay, tool has been pretty expensive.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
If that's the most expensive, that's I just I'm gonna
lose respect for you.
Speaker 7 (37:47):
I mean, like I've paid over one hundred dollars for Metallica.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Well, you know that's worth it. I have no issue
with that.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
It's like a vintage band. You might should pay more.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
Well, yeah, highly successful, good music band. You know, kind
of differs. All right, let's pay this off the who
am I's game? So Jalen Williams of OKC exploded for
forty points in Game five of the NBA Finals. So
the twenty four year old is the fifth youngest player
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to score at least forty points in an NBA Finals game.
We need four players that were younger than Jalen Williams
when they dropped at least forty in an NBA Finals game.
Mickey he checks in and says his four guesses are Orenthal,
James Simpson, Popeye Jones, Debtlift, Shrimp, and Bowl Bowl. That's
what he went with, right there. Nicely done, Late night
(38:43):
drug tester. He went with Jeff Saturday, Blake Shelton, Martin
Saint Louis, and he went with Antonio Gates, all celebrating
birthdays today, by the way, very nice.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Mallard props.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
He went with Poppy Holler and James Blind Scott and Moneyball.
Mall No, it is actually Magic Johnson was the youngest,
Rick Barry was younger than Jalen Williams did it three times.
Russell Westbrook and the logo Jersey West.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
There you go in the very nicely done all Right.
Coming up next Vengeance
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Appreciate you checking out. The show. Lots to dive into.
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Of course, as I always say, ball on the brain,
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I'm wrong, abnormally.
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Positive mini camp statements.
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We'll throw some audio your way. As far as that
goes a little bit of estrogen. In the show tonight,
a number of topics from the lady side of sports
I think are very interesting. Dive into a few of those,
and we started off with some champions over here.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Huh.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
We crowned a champ on Tuesday night as the Florida
Panthers win back to back Stanley Cups. Over the Edmonton
Oilers and basically the entire country of Canada. I think
is what happened. Right there is Canada trying to win
a Stanley Cup for the first time since ninety three,
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did not happen yet again, and Florida goes back to back.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
This is actually the final call.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
You gotta love the final call of a Stanley Cup
series clinching win unless you root for the other team.
Of course, this is on the Panthers radio network. Check
this out down to the final five seconds.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Re train down.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Cort Stanley staying in South Florida last year was greatness.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
This time it's historic.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
The Florida Panthers urt back to back Stanley Cup champions.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Okay, now I have lots to say about this. First off,
props to rats rain down. I love that. That's the
whole thing with the Florida Panthers. They throw rats, not
real rats, but just like fake rats on the ice.
There was a hat trick for Sam Ryan Hart and
they actually scored four goals in the game, tied an
NHL record for the most goals in a Stanley Cup
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final game. But they throw these fake rats on the
ice to get a hat trick.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
And so I love that.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Like at the end, you know they're about to win
the Cup and all these fake rats are being thrown
on the ice. Now that was that was spontaneous. That
was impromptu right there, rats rained down. It's a good
drop right there.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
But the end. Not a fan of the end.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
I swear these broadcasters and listen, I'm guilty of it too.
It's you almost have to guard it against it because
it does help on one hand, you know, like if
you're doing sports radio play by play, it does help
a little bit to write a few ideas down. But
I feel like in play by play especially, you can
(03:15):
tell when it's just so preorchestrated and you're like, that's
just not spontaneous. It doesn't feel like you're just in
the moment when you say something where it's like you
didn't just come up with that, clearly you thought about it.
Like Jim Nance is doing the Super Bowl in Vegas
and he's like, all right, all right, I gotta think
of something here, regardless of who wins, if it's the
(03:38):
Chiefs or it's the forty nine ers, how about jackpot,
huh Vegas jackpot. Yeah, let's do that. He didn't think
of that right on the spot. There's no way, yeah, Vegas.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
So some of that stuff, I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Maybe I'm too picky when it comes to that, but
I do love the spontaneous calls, and I just don't
buy that it was spontaneous to be like last year
was I forget what he said last year was something.
This year it's historic something along those lines. I think
that was a premeditated call right there. That's a premeditated
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call if I've ever heard one. But I don't want
to rain on the parade, which I am. I'm raining
on the play by play call. But the con smythe
trophy that is the NHL's very fancy way of saying
the MVP.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
This was the announcement on TNT. Here you go.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
It's only fitter that this year it goes to the
leading goal scorer Sam Bennett, yep, Sam Bennett Studeley throughout
the NHL playoffs, he wins the con smythe otherwise known
(04:55):
as the MVP. I think that's easier to understand. But whatever,
the NH plays by its own rules, it's fine, you know,
and Bennett was deserving, for sure, I thought Brad marshand
was tremendous in the final. He was on the short list.
My guy, Bob Sergei, Bobrovski. He was awesome throughout the
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Stanley Cup Final. The goalie for the Florida Panthers, very
hard to score on, won a handful of bets just
playing his saves over. I think there was only one
game in the six game series where he went under.
It was Game five. There weren't as many shots on goal,
but that dude was just stopping puck after puck after
puck throughout the series. So shout out to Bob and
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as far as Edmondson goes, what do you know, the
musical goalies thing? Not a great approach, Not the greatest
of approaches right there. They've done this throughout the playoffs
as well. It wasn't just the Stanley Cup Final. Edmonton
had been switching between Stuart Skinner and Calvin Pickard and
they got away with it earlier in the NHL playoffs,
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but not as much in the Stanley Cup Final. The
Cliffs Notes version, if you fast forward to the final,
Game four wasn't going very well for Skinner. He gets yanked.
Pickard goes in there and plays great. He stops like
twenty one of twenty two shots right around that, actually
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twenty two of twenty three shots he stopped off the
bench in Game four, and so the Oilers are like, well,
deck with it, Let's roll with this guy. He's actually
stopping shots. Let's go with Pickard in game five. Game
five not as good, not as good for Pickard. Edmonton
lost five to two. So Edmonton's like all right heading
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into Tuesday night Game six, backs against the wall, trying
to stave off elimination.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Right, let's go back to Skinner.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Let's go back to the guy who we just revoked
all of his confidence from him. We just stole like
a thief in the night, like two games ago. You suck.
Let's get you out of the game. Now, you know
what I think. There's something about this Skinner guy. You
know last year when we were down three to nothing,
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we stuck with Skinner and bye gosh. He was good
for three straight games and we forced a game seven.
So let's go with Skinner and he was not up
for the task. Panthers won five to one, had an
empty net goal, two empty net goals. But when Skinner
gives up three before all the Shenanigans late. It's just
(07:36):
not a great outing. So listen, I'm not mister Hockey
by any stretch, but I do know a thing or
two about confidence, and it's I understand the thinking.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
On one hand, where if Skinner stinks in game four
and this is go time, man, we need this game,
and then you make the change, Pickard goes in there
plays awesome, Well, it kind of just rights itself where
you go with Pickard the next game and then Pickard
isn't any good and then you go back to Skinner.
I get how we got here, but the end result
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is that it's not shocking that Skinner didn't play great
on Tuesday night because you just benched him a couple
of nights ago. So it's not that shocking to me.
I understand how it happened, why it happened, but that's
the aftermath.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
It's not just I think that's the thing.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
I think it's easier to get caught up in the
game to game scenario of a series instead of looking
at the series as a whole. And you know, the
oilers made that change which in game four, just that
game itself made sense, but the series as a whole.
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If you're thinking, man, if we got to go back
to I don't know if this dude is gonna be like, Man,
I've got all the confidence in the world right after
getting benched like a game and a half ago.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
You know.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
So it might have affected his performance in Game six,
but in any event, shout out to the Florida Panthers
getting it done. They are the champs back to back. Man,
that's rough. When you lose in the Stanley Cup Final
to the same team in two straight years, that's that's
extra rough right there. That is, And especially in the
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sport of hockey. I would feel like if I was
a die hard fan of a particular hockey team, I
would feel like, we are right on the freaking doorstep.
We are right there, you know, like a goal here,
a goal there, a save here, save there, we might
have won this thing. I think that makes it even
harder to take, especially as a player, but as a fan,
(09:57):
you think the nature of certain sports like basket sometimes
these basketball games we just saw Game five the other night,
Pacers lost by eleven points. You know that a handful
of possessions right there. You're not, Hey, if it just
that one shot, we would have had it. There's a
little bit more to that. I think this the nature
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of the sports has a lot to do with the
heartache as well. And some of these Stanley Cup Final
games were just unbelievable off the charts. You know, Game
two was tough for Edmonton, could have taken a two
to nothing lead, they lost in double overtime. And some
of these these games, they a couple of them got
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tied up with like twenty seconds to go empty net situations.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
It was wild.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
I think, all things considered, really good Stanley Cup Final.
I thought the end, like the the crescendo, left a
lot to be desired. You know, the deciding game, Game
six on Tuesday night, it's a five to one game.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
It's not a close game.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
That's that's a tough way to the series. I hope
that the NBA Finals don't end in similar fashion where
you want it to be.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Like.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Both game fours were tremendous NHL and NBA. That was
the in the.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
NHL, that was the five to four Edmondson win. Edmonton
was down three to nothing in that game. They tied
it up, they took the lead, then Florida tied it
with twenty seconds to go to force overtime, and then
Edmonton won the game. It was crazy, an insane win
for them. In the NBA Finals Game four, that was
(11:35):
the road win for Oksei're down by ten points in
the fourth quarter, they fight all the way back, dramatic
close to the game, going like a twelve to one
run in the final couple minutes, and they win the game.
Game fours in both NBA and NHL were off the charts.
And that's the crazy twist I feel with hockey. Games
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don't bleed into each other as much. You know, they
seem to be pretty separate a lot of times. And
that Game four masterpiece for the Oilers. They fight back
from a three nothing deficit. They're down three to nothing
at the end of the first period. Down three to
nothing is like in football, you're down like twenty four
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nothing or something right away. Good luck coming back from that,
and they did. Edmonton came all the way back, won
this dramatic game in overtime. The series is tied up,
they're going home, They've got all the momentum and boom
smacked right in the face. Oilers lose five to two,
and then again tonight five to one. That's pretty crazy.
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Think about that too. If you're an Edmonton fan after
Game four, you're watching that, you're down three to nothing
in the first period, You're like, this sucks. We're gonna
be down three to one in the series. Here we
go again. Not so fast. Edmonton comes back in epic fashion.
They win the game. All right, we're cooking with grease.
Let's go as the last game, Edmonton one. That's the
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brutal nature of sports, right there, man, But that's the
way it goes sometimes in any event. Props to Florida.
They get it done. They are the champions as they
do it in back to back fashion.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Right there, all right?
Speaker 4 (13:21):
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Speaker 4 (14:23):
It is Fox Sports Radio. I'm Brian no In for
Big Ben Maller. It sounds like Loraina is excited for Vegas.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
You know. I texted Danny G.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
It's the producer of Cavino and Rich and I was like, hey,
I always call him DG. I don't know why. That's
just my nickname for Danny Danny G Radio. I thought
it was Danny Gradio for a long time. That's a
honest mistake by me. Yes, yeah, but I call him
DG for Danny G Radio. I'm like, Yo, DG, You're
gonna be in Vegas. He's like, yep, I'll be here.
(15:02):
And I'm like, so, what's going on?
Speaker 3 (15:03):
You guys?
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Got events going on like crazy for a Covino and Rich.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
They're celebrating again. Long baby, Larina. He sent me the rundown.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Yes, there's not like a minute to spare the whole weekend.
They got everything mapped out. It's crazy.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
You can find me all the day Friday.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Yeah, you're gonna be uh.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
I know, Covino and Rich are doing their show from
Stadium Swim and they had all kinds of events.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
I brought six different bathing suits and I don't know
which one to wear.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Is it gonna be like, uh, you know, like an
awards show where you keep changing outfits.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Is that the way it's gonna go?
Speaker 5 (15:39):
It might?
Speaker 3 (15:40):
It might each half hours a new Uh.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
That's what I was thinking, Like I could do an
outfit change every hour.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Maybe that's the way to go. That'll always be memorable,
you know, definitely. I think you're a different person each time.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
But like, oh, Lorena's in the orange baby, No.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
No, she's not.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Gonna be like where's the girl in the two piece?
Like she's gone, She's nowhere to be found anymore.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
Oh my gosh, is that her in the jungle print
over there?
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Wild?
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Yeah? And you know how it goes.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
People be drinking and they're not gonna be able to
put that together. They're gonna have no idea what's going on.
Oh yeah, I'm definitely gonna stop by. I guess they're
doing stuff all weekend. The gambling portion really caught my attention.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
I was sure it did.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
It's like, come and gamble with us. We're gonna gamble
to the wee hours of the night. I was like, now, this,
this is a good idea by Cavino and Rich.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
So shout out to them.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Hope you they have a great time here in Vegas
and do all sorts of fun stuff. Okay, so there
was some drama. There was some bad blood in the
w NBA on Tuesday night.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
There you go. You excited for this, coop?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Some enthusiasm. Beautiful.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
So the Indiana Fever they were hosting the Connecticut Son. Now,
you might not care about the WNBA, you might not
care about women's basketball.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
It's fine, might not be your cup of tea. I
watched it all the freaking time. I do.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
And I was watching the game, well, I actually I
flipped over. I was watching the game and the Fever
brore up by so much I flipped over to the
Liberty game started watching.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
They were in a they were in a.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Back and forth with the Atlanta Dream and Jeff Schwartz,
I host with him on Saturdays here on Fox Sports Radio.
He texted me and he was like, did you see
the Sun try to punk Caitlin? And I said, no,
I missed it. So I flipped over and saw that
it was a little bit of bad blood in that game.
So the situation here is that Caitlin Clark, She's being
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guarded by a Connecticut's Connecticut's son rookie named j. C.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Sheldon.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Okay, so Jace, she's doing her job. She's being up
Caitlyn Clark, and she tries to swipe down on the ball.
She accidentally swipes down on Caitlyn's face. You know, the
face got in the way of swiping down of the ball,
and so she rakes Caitlyn across the face and Caitlyn
she's holding her face and she kind of stumbles backward
(18:16):
into J. C. Sheldon, and so Caitlyn's like, get it,
get off me. She kind of pushes j. C. Sheldon,
you know, just not like a full on shove. It's
just like I just got hit in the eye or
the face, and now you're bumping into me, like, get
off me. So she pushes JC a little bit and
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then that's what led to the little brew.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Haha, huh.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
You had Tina Charles rush over immediately she puts her
face near Caitlyn's puts her finger near Kitlyn's face, and
then Marina Maybray she ran over and she shoved Caitlyn
to the floor.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Ding ding ding.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
We got no holds barred action right here in the WNBA.
So the third part of this was Tina Charles got
a tech. Marina Maybray, you got a tech for pushing
Caitlin to the floor. And Caitlin Clark got a technical
foul when she just you know, you got hit in
the face and then she subtly shoved if you can
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do such a thing J. C.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Sheldon.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
So the Indiana Fever, they're ticked off that Caitlin Clark
one got a technical foul and probably two that more
didn't happen to Marina Maybury. Now me personally, I don't
think Maybury should have gotten tossed. They always talk about
a flagrant two foul where it's wind up its impact
(19:41):
and then it's followed through like this was a.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Light shove by Marina Maybray.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
I don't think she should have gotten tossed for that.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
That's just me.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
The Indiana Fever clearly disagreed they were ticked off. She
did not get ejected for that. Now you fast forward
to the very end of the game, it's payback time, baby.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
So the same player, J C.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Sheldon, she's on a fast break, she's running right down
the floor and there's Sophie Cunningham. Now you might not
know Sophie Cunningham by name, but she catches headlines a
lot of times because she's a beautiful girl. She's a
blonde girl, very pretty. Sometimes you'll see her, I don't know,
(20:27):
videos are posted like hey, look at what she's wearing
heading into the WNBA game, that sort of thing. She
was accused of hooking up with the like a headhun
show with the Sun's slash Phoenix Mercury, the last team
she played for. Don't know what's true, but that was
(20:48):
in the news. Maybe you know her from that. In
any event, Sophie Cunningham sees J. C. Sheldon on a
fast break and she's like, this is a great opportunity
for some payback right here. So she grabs her by
the head and basically throws her to the floor. Then
there's pushing and shoving and all that sort of stuff.
So a couple of injections, Stephanie White gets the gate,
(21:11):
a couple of Sun players get ejected as well. So
it was a fun night in the WNBA. So aggressive, yeah,
very aggressive. So a couple of things stand out. One,
it is still wild to me, and I don't I
don't think there's a great comparison. You guys are more
than welcome to throw a comparison my way. Can you
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think of a superstar in a league that is targeted
by other players as much as Caitlin Clark is. I
can't think of another example of a superstar that is
targeted as much, you know, on the court, on the
(21:56):
field of play, whatever sport we're talking about, between the lines, right,
that sort of thing clearly targeted, not just this year,
even Tuesday night. It's the lightest of shoves by Caitlin Clark.
She just got raked across the face, subtle shove of J. C.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Sheldon.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Immediately, Tina Charles and Marina Maybray.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Are like, I can't believe that b were just did that.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Shovel to the floor like they are freaking ready to go.
They cannot wait to put Caitlyn on her backside, you know.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
And this is a sort of thing that's happened last
year as well.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Was it Kennedy Carter then of the Chicago Sky Like
there was just a simple inbounds play, Caitlyn was about
to get the ball, and Kennedy Carter just ran up
and decleted her like it's I don't know, a slant
pattern in the NFL, and she's the defensive back or something,
and Angel Reese jumps up starts clapping like crazy, Like
(22:58):
the animosity to Caitlin Clark really is next level.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
I've been trying to think of something that rivals it, and.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
If we're talking about physical play and being targeted that way,
I started to think about Michael Jordan back when we
had the Jordan rules with the Detroit Pistons, and I'm like,
is that even a decent comparison? Does that even equate?
And I don't think it's the same thing. I think
(23:31):
that Jordan. The Pistons clearly beat the hell out of Jordan,
but a lot of it was within the rules, you know,
Jordan would come down the lane, go up to try
to score and they would plant him into the floor.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
You know, they.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Would like gronk spike him into the floor. But it
was within the flow of the game. You're not gonna
see on YouTube some video where Jordan was about to
get the inbounds pass and you know John Sally just
comes over and decletes him. A lah Kennedy Carter on
Caitlyn Clark like you're not gonna find that. And so, yeah,
(24:10):
Jordan was targeted by the Pistons, but it was in
a different way. It wasn't the same way with Caitlyn
where there's clearly it goes beyond. Like that's the weird
thing about these WNBA players. If they just came right
out and said it, I would respect it a lot
more if they just came out and said, yeah, I
just don't like her, don't like her, I don't.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
I hate to say this. It's totally a girl thing.
We're so catty like that. And with Caitlyn Clark being
the exceptional player that she is, Yeah, it's hard not
to do it, you don't you know we do it
passive aggressively, right, Well, well, we'll pull your hair.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
In the locker room. But we're not gonna be like, oh, yeah, no,
I don't like her. No, she know, she's fine. I
don't not like her. She's fine.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
And that's what annoys me. Where it's you clearly did
they like her?
Speaker 5 (24:58):
That's with her? They yeah, no, no, one actually likes her.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
And I would have more respect if they just flat
out came out and said it. No.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
They won't do that.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
I know they won't, but.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
That's why I don't respect it when they're like, oh no, no, no,
this is clearly just about competition, okay, all right, yes, Like,
how is it benefiting you if it's just out of competition.
If you just knock her to the floor before the
ball is inbounded, that's actually hurting your team. If it's
(25:29):
all about competition, that's a bad thing. It's all sorts
of others. If they just came round and said, look,
I'm over all the tension this girl gets, it's too much.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
I don't like it.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
And yeah, if I got a chance to knock her
to the floor, I'm gonna take it. I would totally
respect that. But to Loraina's point, they're not going to
say that they're gonna play it off and act like, oh, no, no,
there's there's nothing extra on this. No, no, no, no,
we're just sticking up for our teammates. No, we're just
you know, it's top petition, it's in the flow of
the game.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
It's BS. It's total BS frustration.
Speaker 7 (26:08):
It's wanding their whole lives for the WNBA to matter,
and then it finally does, but it's only because of
Caitlyn and Clark, and that's all anybody actually cares about.
And then when they see stories that, oh, Caitlyn Clark
missed five games and nobody watched the WNBA for those
five games, you know, or for those five days or
(26:29):
whatever it was, then you know they're just they feel invalidated,
and somebody take their aggression out on her because she's
so much better than all of them.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
You're totally right, Coop, You laid it out where that's
a lot of the frustration is uh like, and Angel
Reese said this last year, she was like, they watched
for me too, right, Like, they're not just watching for
one player. I wonder who that one player was. She's
probably talking about Djona Carrington.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Now I'm just kidding. Of course he's talking about Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Right, she came right out out and said, you know,
y'all watch for me too, like they want to have.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
The limelight as well.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
And yeah, you're right, Coop, there is so much animosity
where now the league is finally getting better ratings and
better ticket sales and it's getting some relevancy and and
they're like, we've been grinding for years, decades, and now
we're finally starting to get some limelight and they don't
(27:29):
like accepting that it's largely because of Caitlin Clark, and
a lot of people have a problem with that being
the way it played out, as if it's Caitlin's fault,
Caitlin's That's the funny thing, too, is for all this
drama that surrounds Caitlin, she's the least dramatic person ever.
(27:51):
She could easily make all this stuff way more dramatic.
Speaker 7 (27:56):
And you know that makes them, I have that probably
in furiates them.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Absolutely, you're right about that. Look at Coop just on
point tonight. Right, No, that's that's absolutely true. If you
are upset and you know you're trying to bring someone
down with you and they're just not taking the bait.
Oh that is annoying. That is very annoying. And yeah,
I think there's an element to that as well. But
(28:24):
for all this drama that Caitlyn is connected to, she's
always downplayed it. She's always lessened the drama instead of
you know, when she's decleted by Kennedy Carter last year,
she could have easily been like, yeah, that was a
cheap shot.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
I don't know what that was about.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
And just statement after statement after statement, Yeah, a bunch
of clowns on that team or whatever.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
She's just creating more and more drama. She's just like,
you know, hey, yeah it happened. You know, we move on.
That's it.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
She even said it on Tuesday night. There were questions
about Sophie Cunningham. Fair question It is my guy James
Boyd in the Indianapolis area. Totally fair questions. But Kayln
just wants to talk about hoops. Is a little portion
of how it played out it, Fowl, you think it's
like defending Caitlyn or defending the team, or how do
you view just how it opened?
Speaker 3 (29:15):
I do it as a flager. Fowl. That's about the
game too.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Yeah, Well, I mean, you guys came to basketball.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Yeah, what do you think of just how you all
were able to pull in a second half Caitlyn in
particularly the Commissioner Cup Championship.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
That's guy.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
You all want to talk about that. Let's talk about that, right.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
So it's like she's not interested in extending the drama,
if you will. She just wants to play basketball and
focus on hoops. She is the most like, can we
just make it about basketball?
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Can we just do that? And uh man, there's this.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Drama just surrounds It just keeps following her around.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
It is wild.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
But can you come up with an example, Coop or Lorena?
Can you think of any athlete in any sport, in
any league where the league targets that star athlete the
way the WNBA targets Caitlin or is clearly bent about
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the attention and the accolades, the props that she gets.
I can't think of anything even remotely close to this.
Speaker 7 (30:22):
No, not really, But I do have a comparison for
you and I guess they didn't really get that same
kind of treatment. But I wonder if it's gonna be
the same as far as the impact. I'm wondering how
close she is to like Ronda Rousey for example. Right,
So she came in was so dominant, like better than
(30:45):
everybody else.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Against tomato cans. But yes, go ahead, Yes, but that's because.
Speaker 7 (30:53):
Wow, I'm having a flashback to like ten years ago
or whatever it was. No, but I mean it's because
it was still kind of like in its infancy, you know,
or like the popularity of of women's MMA fighting, you know,
was in its infancy, and then she came along, was
a superstar, and I feel like it kind of like
(31:14):
even after she's gone, it drove up the popularity of
women's MMA. You still you see you know, you know,
them making the the you know, the main card or
the main event all the time. And I wonder if
she's going to have that same effect, you know, after
after she's done in the w NBA, will that have
does you know she inspiring lots of you know, girls
(31:37):
that wouldn't have played basketball before, and it's going to
keep the w NBA up or is or is you know,
once she's gone or once she's washed.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Up, is it just going to go back to Sure? No, Yeah,
I hear what you're saying right there.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
It's a little bit like like that accidental We're going straight,
that's not the one.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
I mean, it's a little like what you're talking about.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
It makes me think of the Steph Curry effect right
where stuff comes along. He's this brilliant talent. He's inspiring
a lot of young basketball players to play the game
or to try to play the game similar to him,
like that, we're not trying to practice layups. We're trying
to practice logo threes. You're only nine years old.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Who cares? Like we want to do this.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
It's different because the NBA has been relevant for a
long time.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
But I hear your point.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
You took it in a bit of a different direction,
which is fine. I just think with the Rousey thing
and I hear your comparison. I get it from that standpoint. Yeah,
it makes me wonder, Well.
Speaker 7 (32:44):
I don't remember did other female MMA fighters back in
those days?
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Did they all hate her? No? Right, no, not like
not like Caitlin.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
You didn't have comments of like, yeah, this sport has
been relevant for a long time. It's not just relevant
now because one player, you know, they never got that caddy.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Not to the same degree.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
It gives me a Drake and Kendrick vibes. Yeah, like,
no one needs to see it.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Yeah, okay, yeah, Well, feel free to hit us up
if you've got a comparison. I'm just thinking of the
way the WNBA just relishes, you know, like dropping the
people's elbow on Caitlin Clark if you will, during games,
and some of the comments that they've made that they're
clearly bent about the props and attention that this squirrel gets.
(33:36):
Is there a superstar in any sport, in any league
that's even remotely comparable to that?
Speaker 3 (33:43):
I really can't think of one.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
I think Coop came up with a pretty good example
with Ronda Rousey, even though I don't think it was
nearly his caddy in UFC when she was doing her thing.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
But feel free to hit us up.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox, also on Twitter
at the No Show. Hey, in honor of Big Ben
Mallor here it's the who am Ies game.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
We got multiple people here, so who you got even
more opportunities to tweet up a storm. So Jalen Williams
of the Oklahoma City Thunder. He scored forty points, he
went ballistic. It was the best game of his young career.
So the twenty four year old is the fifth youngest
player to score forty points in an NBA Finals game.
(34:28):
There are four players that were younger than Jalen Williams
when they scored forty points in an NBA Finals game.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Who am eyes? Huh? How about that plural? There you go.
You got four names to come up with. Good luck.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
We'll give you the answer right around the corner. I'm
Brian no In for Big Ben Maller. This is Fox
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Speaker 2 (34:48):
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Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
It is Fox Sports Radio. I'm Brian no In for
Big Ben Mallor. You know it's funny and I hear rage.
I don't always think of you, Coop, but now that
we're doing the show together tonight, I do think of you.
And the time we're supposed to go see them for like,
what was it like nine hundred dollars a piece or
something crazy like that. I couldn't believe how much the
Rage Show was. That's insanity. What No, it was like
(35:16):
I'm embellishing, but it was at least like four hundred bucks.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Yeah, then the it was like four point fifty or
something like that. I'm like, for a concert.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
I'm so used to metal shows where it's like twenty
five thirty bucks max general admission, go wherever you want.
Speaker 7 (35:34):
It would have been worth it.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
I would have gone. But man, that's that's a heavy
price tag right there. And COVID how.
Speaker 6 (35:43):
Much an usher ticket was, and he might feed you cherries.
Now that is worth it.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
What's the most you've spent on a concert ticket, Lorena?
Speaker 5 (35:53):
I don't like to spend money on concert tickets. I
like to win them.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Okay, you're more in that. Yeah, I did.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
I think I spent like eighty dollars on a Saint
John ticket.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
You know, I I really don't know what I've spent,
but it's probably in that neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
I don't think i've I don't know that I've hit
triple digits.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
What I don't know if I would.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
I don't know that I have coop because most of
the shows have been metal shows. You know, I saw
BB King four times?
Speaker 7 (36:23):
Hold on, what when was the I could guarantee when
was the last year that you've seen Metallica?
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Okay, I only saw Metallica one time. But you're in
the Lamb of God open for him? It was probably
around I was in Fresno at the time, so it
was like seven or eight.
Speaker 7 (36:42):
That had to have been close to triple digits.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
I didn't pay for it.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
It was because it was a meet and greet with
the Lambs gotcha. Their album was coming out. I can't
remember what album it was. It might have been Wrath
at the time, I don't remember.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
But it was funny.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
You just went into this room and they brought in
like the CD player and they brought in their their
latest album. He just sat there and listened to some
of the songs and then the band came in and
said what's up and took pictures with you. It's actually
pretty cool, but it was just very random. And that
was the same show Metallica was was there.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
It was pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
But Coop, what's your uh, what's the damage you've suffered
financially for the most expensive concert?
Speaker 7 (37:28):
It might have been. I mean that one was up there,
but I don't know that that was the most expensive.
Lady Gaga was pretty expensive, Okay, tool has been pretty expensive.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
If that's the most expensive, that's I just I'm gonna
lose respect for you.
Speaker 7 (37:47):
I mean, like I've paid over one hundred dollars for Metallica.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Well, you know that's worth it. I have no issue
with that.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
It's like a vintage band. You might should pay more.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
Well, yeah, highly successful, good music band. You know, kind
of differs. All right, let's pay this off the who
am I's game? So Jalen Williams of OKC exploded for
forty points in Game five of the NBA Finals. So
the twenty four year old is the fifth youngest player
(38:19):
to score at least forty points in an NBA Finals game.
We need four players that were younger than Jalen Williams
when they dropped at least forty in an NBA Finals game.
Mickey he checks in and says his four guesses are Orenthal,
James Simpson, Popeye Jones, Debtlift, Shrimp, and Bowl Bowl. That's
what he went with, right there. Nicely done, Late night
(38:43):
drug tester. He went with Jeff Saturday, Blake Shelton, Martin
Saint Louis, and he went with Antonio Gates, all celebrating
birthdays today, by the way, very nice.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Mallard props.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
He went with Poppy Holler and James Blind Scott and Moneyball.
Mall No, it is actually Magic Johnson was the youngest,
Rick Barry was younger than Jalen Williams did it three times.
Russell Westbrook and the logo Jersey West.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
There you go in the very nicely done all Right.
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
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