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Show B So we're gonna go off the reservation for
a minute. Our lead this hour is not the normal
some do in the NFL. Got heart or complained or
Jerry Jones farted, and we need to break it down.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
No, no, no, no, no no. We're gonna actually do
something we very rarely do.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
And since I have editorial control, I have chosen this
to be the story that caught my attention the most,
that I was most interested in talking about. And so
as long as I have the bully pulpit, I can
make these decisions. And we're gonna start with a wrestling story.
I think you know by now, I'm assume you've heard
it's really the biggest story I believe in sports, and
(02:34):
I assume you've figured it out. But the wrestling world
and the sporting world mourning the death of a legend
that transcended what was at that time the WWF now
the WWE.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Hulk Hogan is dead.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Died in Florida cardiac arrest early in the morning hours
on Thursday. I was seventy one years old and was
born Terry Bulla and he joined the WWF in the
early nineteen eighties and within a couple of years had
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become the biggest personality and really put that operation on
the map and made a lot of people a lot
of money in those days and even to this day,
the day that hul Cogan left the mortal coil that
we all share here, the revenues and the impact of
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the WWE are just next level. So let us discuss
the question what are you going to remember about the
life of Hulk Hogan as we knew him. So my
thoughts on this, I got shag Carpet, Prince Charming, and bulletproof,
and we will combine all of these things together and
(03:54):
we are going to make the gobagoul.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
We're gonna make the Gobagol. So A the main reason
I'm starting with this is it hits close to home.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Right chunk of my childhood as growing up and not
knowing much about anything like we all start out. A
bunch of my childhood is gone. The man with the
twenty four inch pythons and the fu manchew.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Mustache and the whole thing just gone. That's it. See
you later. Now, what do I remember? What do I
really remember? I'm not going to sit here and there
I go on with.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
All his scandals, lawsuits, the reality show, all that.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
There's no question Haul Cogan was a flawed man, There's
no doubt about it. But what I'm going to remember.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Is my youth.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Hulkomedia right flashing back. I was a kid, fat kid.
Haul Cogan burst onto the consciousness of America as I
was growing up, and I saw it through my eyes,
the eyes of the child.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
It was awesome.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
It's fired off man, haul Coke impact that he has
was next level on the culture in the nineteen eighties.
This was a guy that stood in my head. This
is how fed up I was as a kid. I
don't know if you like me. I don't know how
old you are. Maybe you're younger than me, and.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
You think, well, well you're just a boom er dude,
what are you doing.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
But as a child in my head, like Hulk Hogan,
was toe to toe, belly to belly with the cartoon
heroes that we all worship like he was he man,
you captain America. Hulk Hogan was them, except he was real.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
You said, no, he was, You're just a loser.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
We'll try telling that to ten year old Fat Benny,
who was sitting with his legs crossed on some shag
carpet my parents bought years earlier, in front of those
giant televisions that was the size of a Toyota. And
watching hul Cogan become a national treasure. And I don't
do the whole Mount Rushmore thing. Other people do that.
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I'm not going to do that. But in my head,
and that could be completely.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Wrong about this. What do I know?
Speaker 1 (06:03):
But in my head, if I think back to that
era in my youth, the biggest names in sports in
the nineteen eighties, that's Joe Montana with the forty nine ers,
Magic Johnson with the Lakers. In boxing, it was Mike Tyson,
and it was Hulk Hogan, like all of them, larger
than life. Of course, those other guys played real sports.
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Hulk was not about that. He was a spectacle. It
was the theme music the real American and all that.
We played some of that and just the whole thing,
the national anthem on Saturday mornings, and that was the
Stone Age man.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
I grew up in the Stone Age. There was no
Internet and all that.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
You'd watch the cartoons, which was that's a whole different
sub story about how the cartoons on a Saturday morning
originally were. You were forced to put those on and
they really just became vehicles to sell.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Sugar cereal the kids. But anyway, you had the big,
big hit.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
You had Transformers, g I Joe, and then boom right
into w WF Superstars with my original broadcast hero, Mean
gene Okerland, who stood there in a tuxedo talking to giants,
literal giants like Andre the Giant. It was absurd as
a kid, it was glorious, it was wonderful. I want
to give a little taste here, so we have a
little clip here. This is Mean gene Oakerland, Hul Cogan
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and Macho Man Randy Savage. They're all gone now, they're
all dead, but listen to this. This is this is
what it was like watching this as a kid. Tigers, Oh, Gomania,
two megap Powers being it air.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Then Hul Cogan, what has happened?
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Well, you know, me, Geen, we really don't know what
we're dealing with here, man, And I'm just kind of
a little worried about washing up here because we just
might pull the whole planet up. You know, everybody knows
that whole Comania is the strongest force.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
In this universe.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
But when I get that ring, you know, I saw
what the madness was all about. I realized there was
a whole other universe out there, a whole on the
frontier in the our of the madness in the media.
Just boom on, twenty four inch guns out. You mean
to tell me there is another solar system.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Onto Wolston the state of shack right now?
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Allright?
Speaker 1 (08:13):
So went on And no, I'm not going to sit
here and tell you they were all doing coke. But
you know, I didn't think that at the time, but
looking back, they probably were.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
But page two here, what.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Was the secret ingredient? As we say goodbye and pour
one out for Haul Cogan? What was the thing that
made him so special in the wrestling game? Well, the
obvious thing that you don't need me to tell you.
This guy was one of the great showmen, charismatic, he
had this magnetic personality, great stage presence.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Vince McMahon and his dad.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Cooked up the formula which had been around for a
while in professional wrestling, was the WWF at the time,
and it was the age old battle between the good
and the bad, right, the good and the bad and
all that, and the rivalries between what they call in
that business the baby faces versus the heels that is responsible,
that sells the tickets right, gets people intrigued and all that.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
But nobody did it better than the Hulkster, and he
was able to blur the lines between fiction and reality.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Again as a kid, I'm sure there were adulta whose
is the dumbest thing in the world, But as a kid,
I was like, this was Prince Charming, mesmerizing, captivating and
just how successful was it?
Speaker 3 (09:21):
The number that is mind blowing?
Speaker 1 (09:24):
And I know everything's gotten chopped up and taken apart
in pieces like a chop shop for our attention. But
going back at WrestleMania, I think it was the famous
WrestleMania three in the early eighties. There were thirty three
million people that watched Hulk Hogan versus Andre the Giant.
(09:45):
Thirty three million, And I put that in context, our
friend in Fox Sports Radio's form A morning host and
FSR alumni member Klay Travis pointed out that that is
more people that watch. More people watch that than the
World Series, the NBA Finals, and the Stanley Cup Final
combined this year. If you combined all of those events,
there were more people watching a staged wrestling match between
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Hull Cogan and Andrea the Giant.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
And you know, look, I get it now. You know,
we know now it's scripted.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
But back then, as a naive kid, I didn't think
about it, didn't really care, didn't know.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
It was just magical.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
You'd see Hulk Hogan there sweating like he was, you know,
dying under the lights, dripping water, hulking up if you will,
and obviously on steroids.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
That came out later. They were all on steroids, it seemed.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
And then you know, shaking the righteous fury as he
could in those early days and pointing the finger doom
and all that.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
And you know some loser.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Villain guy, you know, the iron chic who literally, I
think literally really like hates Hulk Cogan till is you know,
the end of life, Big John Studd, Rowdy Roddy Piper, enow.
If you're if you're of a certain age, these.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Are massive names.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
If you're also of a younger age, you're thinking, boy,
this is.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
The worst monologue ever. Oh my god, this is terrible.
But just let me, let me finish this, okay.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
So then Hulk had the leg drop the signature move,
you know, one, two, three, the crowd goes wild, the
music hits. He's flexing the biceps there and he could
solve all the world's problems all in that moment, and halkokein.
Did did he get rich? Well, everything's relative, right. He
made a lot of money, made a lot of money.
(11:30):
He also lived very interesting life away from the ring,
involving you know, sex, drugs, rock and roll, all that,
and you know, bad decisions and things and so spanning
his his career. Based on a minutes long Mallar investigation
starting in the nineteen eighties when hulk Amania took off,
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It's estimated Hulk Hogan made one hundred and fifty to
two hundred million dollars before taxes, before paying off spouses
and other poor decisions.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
That he made.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
And I remember money was worth more in the eighties,
it was worth more in the nineties. Than it is today,
just like you know, if we get to twenty fifty
money today, it's gonna be worth more than it was
is then.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Now the last word here, So how much power power,
power power.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Did Hulkgan have over kids in those early days? And
I can speak of this because I was a kid,
so we all bought it. In my head, every kid
bought in completely. He was the master salesman. You talk
about product placement, the Hulk Mania T shirts, the action figures,
all kinds of crap that's in landfills right now. And
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I was a kid that got fat on WWFA, these
ice cream bars that I got, and I was convinced
that I had to get these. I remember pestering my
dear old mom as she rest in peace. I had
to get my hands on those WWF ice cream bars
and I couldn't stop eating them. I thought they were
the greatest right and the whole thing right. And now
I was more of a mean gene Oakland guy, but
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I couldn't wear a tuxiedo.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
I remember me and my older brother we went to.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
The Anaheim Convention Center, which is an absolute asshole, but
there was wrestling there and we stayed after to see
the wrestlers walk out to their to their car.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
You know, there was like a bus thing take them
to the hotel.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
And I remember seeing these guys and they were wearing
like these uh soprano you know if you remember the
old jumpsuits they would wear back in those days.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
And so I'd see these them. Oh man, they're out,
they're out of uniform and all that. I was like, wow.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
But so I got fat on the WWF ice cream bars.
I blame Hulk Cogan. But then in my head I
ate the vitamins, and and so I figured, like, if
just you eat the Hulk Hogan endorsed vitamins, and that
would make you bulletproof in my head as a kid, right,
I mean, Hulk told me, he said, to all my
(13:57):
little Hulk of maniacs, say your prayers, take your.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Vitamin and you will never go wrong.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
So I thought, Okay, i can eat the ice cream bars,
I'll get fat, but then I'll take the vitamins.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
I'll be fine.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
And I'm telling you there were a lot of us
who did just that, right, because we believed, you know,
this was bigger than just wrestling and all that, and
and those are the things I'll remember, and again the
headlines are there. And obviously, as a cynical, jaded, middle
aged talk show host, I've seen all the controversies. The
Gocker thing, he took down Gocker, the Bubba, the love sponge,
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you know, stooping his wife, the holy.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
I mean, listen, that's all out there. You can get that.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
You can do that if you want, you know, that
reality stuff that came later in my life. But I
choose to remember the day that Hall Cogan died. I
chose to remember the simpler time being fat little Benny
watching Mean Jean introduce hal Cogan hyping up some event.
Hey ww if coming to the you know whatever arena,
you know, I'll coming to arena near you, you know,
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And not the jaded, middle aged gas bag that I've become,
but more of the wide eyed Benny Bright's eye, ice
cream all over my hands, chocolate, the whole thing, because
that was a time. You know, everything's like this when
you're a kid, right, the world just feels amazing. Everything's
ahead of you and you feel like you could body
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slam anything. And that was Haul Cogan. So anyway, rest
in peace, Hall Cogan. It is the hour of Haul Coogan.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
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Speaker 1 (15:21):
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talk about Hulkogin.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
We'll get back to that. I have some more thoughts.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I mean, I could do the whole show talking about Hulk,
but I think they'll kick my ass out here if
I do that. So our lead is from the NFL.
It's not really training camp. It is not really training
camp until we get what kind of breakfast?
Speaker 3 (19:07):
That's right? Snap, crackle pop. We got some of that.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Now, good news. We have our first quarterback injury of
training camp. If you saw it, you know what I'm
talking about.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Maybe not.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Initially, there was a lot of doom and gloom around
New York Jets quarterback Justin Fields Fields of pain.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
As he dislocated a toe on his right foot.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
The initial reports doom and gloom carted off extreme pain,
people predicting the kind of injury that Justin Fields was
going to have the worst of the worst. Now they're
calling Fields, I love this. The initial reports while will
it was bad, then they said what day to day?
Speaker 3 (19:48):
The early word, though is is going.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
To miss at least a couple of weeks most likely
of practice. Keep in mind, from now in here we
are in late July. From now until February, well I
guess till January, there will be NFL football every single
Thursday that we have passed the rubicon. We have crossed
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over this past Thursday, yesterday, it's our Friday's the twenty
fifth day of July. But the last Friday without football
or last Thursday without football NFL football.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Now, keep in mind, the Hall of Fame game is
coming up. It's pretty unwatchable. You know.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
It's a lot of tradition, a lot of pomp and circumstances.
It's a big deal if you live in that part
of Ohio, but for the rest of us, it's you know,
a bunch of backups, of backups of backups. But the
point is there'll be people in NFL costumes hitting other
people in NFL costumes, and that starts coming up this Thursday.
So it's a rapid fire here, rapid fire, which is
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which is pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
But back to justin field.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
So they said, well, initially not that bad, and then
they say day to day, this is a couple weeks
of press now, depending.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
On how he recovers, could be longer.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
The Jets safety that you know with the back quarterback
for the Jets is do you know I had to
look it up Tyrod Taylor. Yeah, he's still around Tyrod Taylor.
Who's favorite medical staff the Chargers clearly, but he's the
backup plan. So Taylor is a Justin Fields busted toe
away from being QB one and getting the job.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
So let us discuss the question what is your read
on the Justin Fields injured tutsie with the Jets.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
So I've got pizzeria, water, and Airbnb, and we'll combine
all of these things together and we are going to
make a salad. Now, I don't eat salad, so you
can have my salad number one. To quote the great
Scooby Doo, rot Row, Trouble Brewing, Trouble Brown. Right, we
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all know from our ability of watching football, our knowledge
of football paying attention football, Justin Fields relies on what
the only games where he's been good have been where
he dominates.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
With his legs.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
The whole skill set is dependent on mobility. Justin Field's
the competitive advantage he has, and I'm not one of
his advocates. But his advantage is run, run, run, and
run run. It is not reading defenses. It's not sitting
back anticipating who's going to be open. It's not running
timing routes with the wide receivers. It's not any of that.
(22:28):
His big advantage as a dual threat quarterback is to
go and now without the toe, no toe, no got
So this isn't just some run of the mill injury. Now,
if you're just a pocket passer, you're like, well, we
can figure it out. But you take away that mobility,
and what are you left with. If you just had
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to have justin fields throw the ball.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
He would not be in the NFL. He would be
not he would doing TikTok videos or something.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
He's a mid passer, a guy who hasn't proven he
can win from the pocket. He's not going out there
and dicing up anyone with accuracy, with precision.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
If he's not moving around, he's nothing.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
And so this toe thing is everything could be a
real problem justin fields.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
If you look at his body of work, now, he has.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Been a pizzeria during his career, from the Bears to
the Steelers and now he's on the Jets. And the
pizzeria is named Shaky's, except he didn't have the mojo potatoes.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Right. There have been some mojo moments.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
There have been some mojo moments with running the ball,
some viral highlights.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
On social media. The consistency has not been there.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
That's why he keeps getting passed around like the collection
plate at church on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
So page two, here is there a silver lining for.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Justin Field suffering from this toe injury with the Jets?
So I am nodding my head, Yes, there is actually
a silver lining to this. Okay, there is a silver
lining is I'll tell you all right, this reeks if
you use your nose, you smell that.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
It reeks of a ready made excuse.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
You know it's true. You know I don't push back,
it's true. Right, Just add water, Just pour a little
water there, watch it grow. Yeah, that's what this is.
I'm telling you, that is what this is. He's already
behind the eight ball, and now Justin Field's missing valuable reps. Right,
these early practices before the games get going very important.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
And the excuse is.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Well, he was trying to learn a new system, and
he's got new coaches, and he's got new team, baites
and everything do and he get me practice.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Yeah, that whole thing. So it's not fair. It's gonna
take him two months to figure things out.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
And of course the problem is when the games actually
start and we're almost in August, it's only a few
days away, and then the season begins in September.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
He goes out there.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
And drops a deuce right on the mid field logo
there and stinks up the joint. And don't worry, don't worry,
it's okay. He'll just go in his back pocket. He's
got in his back pocket the oh, well, I missed
camp because of the toe thing. Just give me tie,
give me I'll be fine. I'll be fine.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
That's it. Gotta have it.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
So it's again it's a positive. Suppose it's a minor thing.
And he's got that in his back pocket. All right,
So we're going to leave the world of the NFL.
We're going to go to baseball. We had a trade,
a Thursday special.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
I love trades. Do you like trades? All right?
Speaker 1 (25:40):
So we had a it's been called a meaningful trade.
Being called a meaningful trade. The deadline is this Thursday,
so we are less than a week away. From that's it.
The store is closed. You can't make any more trades.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
The Seattle Mariners.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
But crying Craig is going to start crying when he
finds out about this, and Nostre Denis and JJ and
Ranton and Robbie the Mariner fan. We got some big
stars in the Seattle area that are regulars on the
show or have been regulars over the years. So the
Seattle Mariners, Is it true the Seattle Manners have required
first baseman Josh Naylor first baseman Josh Naylor from the
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Diamondbacks for a couple of pitching prospects.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
I'm nodding my head, Yes, it is true.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
So Seattle's kind of chasing a playoff spot as they're
trying to bolster they're always suck bag offense there, particularly
at first base. So what stands out here's the question
for all the baseball hardos. What stands out and we'll
get to the mall of report card, But what stands
out about the Mariners getting slugger Josh Naylor.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
From the Diamondbacks.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
So if you look at Seattle and there's a lot
of tams A bass I was talking to somebody the
other day who works in that business, and we were
going back and forth. They were like, Ben, there's not
gonna be a lot of big name trades because there's
too many teams that are mathematically in the race. There's
too many faux contenders, teams that aren't good but have
the illusion of contention because Baseball kept adding wild card teams.
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So they have a lot of teams that really don't
deserve to be in the conversation, but they will. They're
not gonna make any any trades in terms of selling
because they're convinced, hey, we just have to get in.
And teams have done that. The Atlanta Braves famously the
year they won the World Series. For years back, they
sucked at the trade deadline. They made some trades, they
won the World Series. The Washington Nationals when they won
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years ago, they weren't that good. They made some moves
and win the World Series, right, Arizona Diamondbacks didn't win it,
but they made some moves they got to the World Series.
I said, one of those things, it's it's the blessing
in the curse of baseball, just by getting in. The
perception is you can play well for a month and
you can end up getting it. But in terms of
what stands out about the Mariners getting Josh Naylor from Arizona,
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it is a team that has a bullet hole and
they have put a band aid on the bullet hole.
And remember last year they got Randy or Rose Arena,
who I liked, and he's okay, and and he's not
as good as I thought he would be in Seattle.
They got him from Tampa Bay and he was supposed
to fix the offense that didn't work.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
The offense continues to be a dead zone.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Is there's some kind of cosmic field over the ballpark
there in Seattle that is causing them to not be
able to hit in their ballpark, Like.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
It's a in this trait.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
The other thing about it, it's an Airbnb situations, an
Airbnb rental, but it's not a good one, right, So
it's one of those places that you look up online.
It's kind of it's cheap, not a great part of town,
sketchy part of town, and the photos look okay, but
you know, you check in and all that stuff, and
then you get in there and it's one of those
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places where you smell the fridge and somebody left some
hard boiled eggs in there that turned rotten, so you
smell that. And they left some broccoli, some cauliflower, and
some Brussels sprouts that have just been smelling up the
entire the entire place, and there's no hot water, that
doesn't work, and there's probably bed bugs. That's your Airbnb.
So this is the standard. I've been doing this for
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a few years. It's the standard Seattle style trade because
they've admitted, in a momode of weakness, they're not actually
trying to win in any given year. They just want
to win fifty four percent of their games and get
to the playoffs and they figure eventually, one of these
years they're going to win. It's very compelling, very exciting.
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You want to hear that as a fan. Team's not
really trying to win, they're just trying to get in.
And there's a lot of teams that have been hijacked
by the analytical people.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
And that's the philosophy. Seattle admitted it, the gym admitted it.
He admitted it. So like they're not this is not
an all in trade. They're not.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
This is a Seattle style trade. Like you dip your
toe in, you don't do the belly Whopper. You just
gotta put your toe in the water a little.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Bit, just a little bit.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
And that's it right now for the low information fan,
the unknoledgeable fan, they're like, oh, that's a that's a
good trade. That is a sexy trade. Now, as far
as the Malor report card, a very important tool, the
Malle report card.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
To grade the trade.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
So the Mariners get a B minus, Arizona gets a C.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Arizona gets a.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
C, and they're just giving away a player that wasn't
in their plans. The Diamondbacks and the reason the Mariners
get to be minus. When you dig a little deeper,
the Mariners didn't give up much. They gave up a
couple of mid tier pitching prospects and maybe one of
those guys turns out to be a middle of the
bullpen or back of the rotation pitcher, but that's about it.
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And Josh Naylor the reason I can't go higher than
like a B minus and I want to go see plus.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
I want B minus. Josh na if you look at last.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Season, he hit thirty one home runs last year. This
season he's got eleven and.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
It was still time.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Okay, is he going to Barry bonds show Hail Tani
like run here for Seattle.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
They're not playing at the Kingdome anymore. Good luck on that.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
So he's he's okay, you look at some of the
nerd numbers. I try to avoid those. But if you
look at the nerd numbers, the hard contact rate is
not that great.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
And the other thing, and this is a problem.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
You always worry about guys that come from the Rockies
or the Red Sox, these bandbox ballparks because the numbers
they put up are phony. They're not sustainable in a
big ballpark, and that is an issue. And Josh Naylor's
numbers are not that great. But if you look at
what he's done at Chase Field, the hitter friendly ballpark,
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he's been pretty good.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
On the road.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
When he leaves that hitter friendly ballpark in that Arizona
desert air, his numbers are pretty mediocre. Like batting averageses
ops are not good, not good. And so you're like, well,
he's going to this great canyon in Seattle, a pitcher
friendly ballpark, So is he going to be yet another
yet another Mariner player that.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Blows like there are street blows?
Speaker 2 (32:24):
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The Ben Meller Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven
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Speaker 3 (32:30):
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Speaker 7 (32:42):
Baker Mayfield said on a recent podcast appearance that at
every stop he went to he was told to tone
it down a little bit, whereas the Bucks have just
told him from day one to be himself. Ben, do
you think things would have gone better in Cleveland if
they had done the same.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
No, they would have been better if Baker Mayfield didn't
suck half the time. Yeah, it's fine if you're the energizer, Bunny,
you're out there. You're radical and fire Brandy. He's not
that radical, but you gotta perform. And the fact that
Odell Beckham deputized his father to get away from Baker
Mayfield was a bad sign.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Good for Baker. He's turned out to.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Be a good quarterback, at least a better than bad
quarterback in Tampa. But let's not pretend like he didn't
have his issues in Cleveland. And it wasn't because the
Browns would let him be Baker next.
Speaker 7 (33:27):
Marvin Harrison Junior told reporters on Wednesday that he feels
more powerful and is ready to showcase it this season.
Ben Harrison was the first receiver off the board and
had a productive rookie season, but he's still lagged behind
leak neighbors Brian Thomas, Lady McConkie, and Brock Bowers. You
think he'll be able to outperform any of those guys
this year?
Speaker 1 (33:44):
No, I mean I did not see it like he's bigger,
which is fine, whatever, but his ability to get open,
he could not get separation. I didn't watch him every
game the games I watched the Cardinals most of the time.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
He could not get separation. And I don't see that
changing next.
Speaker 7 (34:00):
With the MLB trade deadline right around the corner, what
team do you think will be the most active buyer?
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Well, it's got to be the usual suspects, the Dodgers,
the Yankees, they're falling apart. The Detroit Tigers are having
their issues right now. Those are the teams that have
to be active, you know. Except it's not gonna be
a buyer's market. It's going to be a seller's market.
But they've got to do things. How we do you pass?
That's a when market down, market down, that's a win.
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