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September 24, 2025 • 44 mins

Big Ben talks about Russell Wilson getting demoted and Jaxon Dart being named QB1 for the New York Giants, Steelers coach Mike Tomlin giving Aaron Rodgers performance so far a two thumbs up, Maller to the Third Degree, #QueenOfHearts w/ LaReina, Password: Word Game of the Stars, and more!

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begin this hour on the shores of the mighty Hudson River,

(02:47):
and we have another quarterback change in the NFL. And
this one not because of injury, by systemic incompetence. And
if you have not heard by now, maybe not. It
was anticipated and it is now happen. We have learned.
The Giants have demoted, they have benched mister unlimited Russell Wilson,

(03:09):
who is now limited to holding a clipboard in favor
of the flavor of the week, and that would be
first round quarterback rookie Jackson Dart. They've gone to the dart.
They're now throwing darts the Giants. And that just comes
after three games. Now, remember all that rhetoric, all that
bull crap. Oh, he's gonna sit out half the year,

(03:31):
at least maybe the entire year. The Giants are gonna
do this the right way. Okay, what a bet on that? No,
And we'll get into it. But Dart's first start will
come at home on Sunday against Eddie Garcia's Chargers there,
super fan Eddie Garcia's Chargers and his wife big super

(03:51):
fans there. Also Jim Harbaugh he coaches the team, and
Justin Herbert there. So that'll be the matchup be three
and zero Chargers at MetLife Stadium in Jersey. The Giants
trying to wake up the Echoes as they will take
on the Charges with a new quarterback. So let us
discuss the question for the esteem panel. Russell Wilson demoted

(04:14):
Jackson Dart is now QB one for the Giants. Your
thoughts on these developments regarding the Giants. So I've got Mason, Jars,
Kobe and human shields and we will combine all of
these things together and we're going to make some fried rice,
which is highly underrated fried rice, well pretty much anything

(04:35):
fried is usually not good for you, but taste marvelous.
All right, So a this was the word I will
use for the Giants quarterback change telegraphed. Telegraphed is the
word I will use. Everybody with half a brain saw
this one coming. Russell Wilson had been running on fumes.
What about the game against the Cowboys. Okay, that says

(04:57):
more about the Cowboys they suck. Okay, uh Russell Wilson
if you watched them, But this is a year's long thing.
Like how he ended up getting that gig with the
Giants is beyond me. He's been telling everyone I suck,
and yet they said, no, you don't. You don't suck enough.
You have to play for us because we want to
make sure you suck. And so there you go. So

(05:19):
Russell Wilson who's been running on low fuel. He's been
slogging away for years with multiple teams, no rhythm, no
tempo to his game at all. And Russell Wilson, who
has less juice than a dollar store high Sea pack
You know, it's not allow juice in those little packets

(05:40):
they have at the dollar store. He's a football zombie
at this particular point, but he's been a zombie. It's
not a surprise. The real surprise is who they're throwing
Jackson Dart against. Not exactly a soft open. I've had
friends of mine that have been involved in restaurants and
they always say, well, you gotta have the soft launch
friends and family, Friends and family, you have a date

(06:00):
you're going to launch the restaurants. We have a night
or two where it's his friends and family. So everything
gets lined up there and that's it all. The restaurant
staff knows what they're doing. Everything's lined up, and no,
not exactly that. The Chargers off to a legit start.
They have a top ten defense in the NFL. So
that's not a cupcake with extra frosting. It is a
trial by fire. It is all right, Jackson Dart. Our

(06:23):
franchise is stunk for ten years. So we'll throw you
in the wood chipper right away. No easing in to
the deep end you go. No easing in right now.
You're not going in the kiddi pool. You're going in
the deep end right now. There you go, So good
luck on that. No chance to iron out the case. No,
he did play a little bit sporadically here the first
couple or the last couple of weeks. So keep in mind,

(06:46):
if they had waited, if they being the team from
New Jersey that calls themselves the Giants, if they had
waited a week, Jackson Dart would have broken in in
a very soft launch against the gumbo guys in Saints
Saints go marching into embarrassment on a weekly basis. There
that's the feel good component. That's the Hey, we're gonna

(07:09):
go out there, you'll throw three touchdowns and throw for
three hundred yards and feel good about yourself. Instead, they
are saying, I go out there against Derwin James and
the Chargers, knock yourself out. Welcome to the NFL. Kid,
here you go knock yourself well again. I'm fine with it.
I've always said you go with it. There's this false
belief if you sit on the bench, you're going to

(07:29):
be great. There's plenty of examples of people that sat
on the bench. It also sucked. Either you've got it
or you don't have it. We'll find out whether Jackson
Dart has it or not. I don't know. I didn't
think he was all that great in college. I thought
he was fine. I didn't think he would be anything
spectacker in the NFL. But there's other guys who were
in the NFL that I didn't think would be all
that great that have turned out to be pretty good.
So it's a hit and miss situation. It's an imperfect

(07:50):
science and all that stuff, but it does show you
the giants dysfunction. That's my other thought on this, the
dysfunction for the Giants, because you've got Brian Dayball and
Joe Shane the coach in the GM, who are essentially
drinking moonshine from Mason Jars at Dick's last resort, because
this is it. This is your last resort if you're
the coach and the GM there hoping that nobody notices

(08:13):
that you're getting sucker punched, and you're likely to get
sucker punched again here. And the reality is if Jackson
Dart is not prepared to hit the ground running here,
and if he goes out there and sucks at a
time you cannot suck and does a cannonball and a
belly whopper against the Chargers, and they have to take

(08:35):
him out of the game for some reason because he's
so bad, and they have to go to Russell Wilson
again or Jameis Winston. Well, let's just say the not
so dynamic duo, the brains of the Giants operation. They
should start updating their LinkedIn page right now because they've
got some issues there. And John marr the owner of
the Giants, they for some reason keep this group together.

(08:58):
They should have gotten rid of him at the end
of the last year. They kept him around, John Marra,
but if you look at it, it has been a
revolving door. They are the Cleveland Browns of New York,
that is the New York Johnson one. The Jets are
worse than the Cleveland Browns, but the Giants are like
the Cleveland Browns. So I they keep changing coaches and
all that stuff. Four coaches since they canned Tom Coughlan
back in the day, ten years. Four coaches. So the

(09:21):
patience isn't endless for the Giants. But the clock is
a ticking. Certainly, no more honeymoon. That's long gone. That
Fluke playoff situation where they weren't that good and they
made the playoffs and then took advantage of the incompetence
of Kirk Cousins to beat the Vikings in a playoff game.
But you look at it now and there's really no

(09:41):
long term plan. It's just kind of a reactionary move
and you bench the veteran. And again, they should have
never signed Russell Wilson. That's the thing. You didn't need
benjam You shouldn't assigned him. If the overnight sports radio
guy knows the quarterback is washed off, why do you
not know that you're getting paid a lot more money

(10:03):
than I am. You should know that, you dummies. It's
ridiculous anyway. So they're gonna throw him out there and
get all dramatic and they're throwing him Jackson Dart to
the wolves there.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
I do.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
I want to do that, but you'll buy at least
a couple of weeks. In theory, this buys you at
least a couple of weeks and maybe you'll get some
good headlines. The tabloids seem to like this in New York.
Reading some of the tabloids there, it's desperate and typically
it ends with everyone getting fired because you started out

(10:35):
owing three rather than just start. You would have started
owing three anyway. If you started Jackson Dart at least
then you can say, well he played well against the
Cowboys and do all that bull crap. Instead, Now you're
owing three, and then Jackson Dart's gonna take some time
to get going here, so then you're looking at maybe
one in six or something along those lines. Good luck,

(10:57):
good luck on that. This says dead man walking for
Brian day Ball written all over it. Now we move on,
as for mister unlimited, Mister unlimited, what was the monstrosity
performance against Kensau's city. The last time we will see

(11:18):
Russell Wilson as a regular starting quarterback in the NFL
was that it didn't know it at the time, But
is that it so? In terms of Russell Wilson being
given the keys to the kingdom and a team being
as dumb the dumb, dumb dumb as the Giants and

(11:40):
giving him the keys, I would say, yes, that that's
not going to hap. Now. Is it possible that Russell
will start some games even this year because Jackson Dart's
either going to get hurt or is going to suck.
That is obviously a possibility. But in terms of his
career arc, he is Dunskies cooked. He has been microwaved, reheated,
and tossed in the garbage disposal at this particular point.

(12:01):
Wilson is a football hobo, is what he is. And
he's hitch hiking down the dusty winnemuck a road. Shout
out Johnny Cash. He's got that knapsack, he's got that
going for him, he's got the thumb in the air
and he's hoping that some desperate general manager will pick
him up at the trade deadline or again in the offseason.

(12:22):
But he was again washed in Denver. You could argue
at the end of the run in Seattle he didn't
look all that good. But the main reason he left Seattle,
as I understand it, was he tried to usurp Pete Carroll.
There was a power play and Russ did not win
that battle, which is crazy because a couple of years
later Pete Carroll was let go anyway, so they're like, well,

(12:44):
we're not gonna get rid of Pete Carroll. We're gonna
pick the coach over the quarterback. And then they got
rid of the coach anyway, so that's something different. But
he was washed in Denver, tumble dried in Pittsburgh, and
now left to rust out with the giants. Like that car,
you know, that kind of disheveled house that everyone drives
by and says, why is that car rusted out in

(13:04):
front of the house. That's like, that's terrible. It's embarrassing anyway,
So there is no let's ride like Russ likes to say.
It's let's hide. It went from let's ride to let's hide.
That's the new message from Russell Wilson, and he's gone.
In Seattle, he was considered Kobe beef Kobe, and now
he is leftover meat loaf in tupperware in the back

(13:29):
of the refrigerator that has not been eaten and is
starting to turn colors. That's what's going on. So Russ's
only hope now is to take advantage of the supply
chain shortage of quarterbacks in the league. But again, I
just can't imagine a scenario where he's given the job. Now,
can he get the job because of injury? Sure, there's
something like that could happen, but going into a year

(13:50):
like this year where the Giant said you're our guy, No,
that's not happening. You can sell himself as a not
so savvy backup quarterback. Now, last word, I have to
address this because it's a long standing pet peeve of
mine and it happened. Yet again, I don't know if
you were a witness to this or not. So Russell
Wilson was essentially fired, although he's still keeping his gig,

(14:11):
but he's demoted. Loss of rank for Russell Wilson, so
he created some buzz on the same day that he
was benched, and he ran off to a children's hospital
in New York and flooded social media with photos of
him with the kids. So the question, all right, what

(14:33):
did you think of Russell Wilson's photo bombing from a
children's hospital the day that he got demoted as the
Giants quarterback? So this really rubbed me the wrong way here.
It's a nice instagram stunt. We saw this in Seattle.
Russ has been doing this a long time or the
same stunt, and my position has been pretty strong on this,

(14:57):
have been very consistent over the years. But in this case,
you just focus on this one case in particular, you're
using the sick kids as human shields against social media trolls.
Why do you care so much about social media trolls?
What are you doing? Just stay away, you don't need
to partake. Come on now, it's rather pathetic, bad job

(15:19):
by you. And that's the please don't yell at me post.
You can't yell at me. Look, I'm a nice person,
is what that is. And that's the playbook. That is
the playbook right there, and it's performative charity is what
it is. And my belief and I was raised this week.
You can play my parents. They're dead guys, you can't
blame anymore. But the true charity should be anonymous that

(15:42):
that's the way I was raised, that you do it humbly.
You should do nice things, and you should help people out,
but you should do it humbly and do it without fanfare.
And you shouldn't need a camera crew and a lighting
guy and a sound guy. You don't blast it out
on social media like you're running a play political campaign.
You shouldn't be doing that. And it's just I see that.

(16:03):
I'm like, well, that's phony. You you don't need to
do that. And these are things you should hear about
when you die. Give me a great example, Kobe Bryant dead.
When Kobe died, we heard all these stories. I had
heard some of these things when he was still alive,
but when he died, we heard all these stories about
Kobe would just randomly show up to a children's hospital
and didn't have a camera crew. Kobe Bryant didn't have

(16:26):
a sound guy, he didn't have an audio guy, he
didn't send out posts on social media, and he just
hung out with kids. And that's the way you're supposed
to do it. Not Russ. Russ Russ ever done anything
without a camera crew to document everything. Everything is a
hallmark card for Russell Wilson. It's just all manufactured. The voice,

(16:47):
the mannerisms, the mannerisms, all of that. It's even the
charity stuff there, So there you go. Of course, it
wouldn't be a problem for the giants. He'd still be
QB number one. If his didn't have less zip than
a warm bud light, then he'd still be out there.
But I digress.

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(20:02):
For a playdate. They take on the Minnesota Vikings in Ireland.
So it's Carson Wentz versus Aaron Rodgers. Now, in the
lead up to that game, Aaron Rodgers was a topic
of conversation. If you did not hear about this, perhaps
not so. Mike Tomlin had some things to say. He
was asked about Aaron Rodgers, and he was asked if

(20:24):
Aaron Rodgers has lived up to expectations. Pittsburgh off to
the two and one start, a nail biiting win over
the Jets, a blowout loss to well, not a blot loss,
but they weren't very competitive against Seattle some special teams
blunders in that game. And then win over the New
England Patriots. So two and one start, and so Mike
Tomlin asked whether or not Aaron Rodgers had lived up
to expectations his first season there in western Pennsylvania. So far,

(20:47):
tomlind do you think? He said? Ay, my god, does
Aaron Rodgers stink? B no comment or C yes, all right.
So the answer to this, it's a version of see
obviously Tomlin said quote he meaning Aaron Rodgers, He meaning
Aaron Rodgers certainly has been what we expected and not

(21:12):
only in terms of his play, but Tomlin went on
to say in terms of his relationship with the game
and how he interacts with his teammates. Tomlin opined, quote continued,
Tomlin said, how he loves the preparation process. All of
those things have been double thumbs up. Let me repeat that,

(21:33):
double thumbs up, and so it's reasonable to expect the
in stadium performance to mirror that. Tomlin said, close quote.
So that's the money quote. That's a good jumping off point.
So let's discuss the question do you agree or disagree?
Agree or disagree with Mike Tomlin giving Aaron Rodgers the

(21:55):
double thumbs up on that. So my observations on this,
I've got Bill Nye, the science guy, stick figures and
foot long ballpark wiener, and we will combine all of
these things together, and we are going to put the
biscuit in the basket, is what we're going to do.
So number.

Speaker 6 (22:16):
I said, number yes, Yes, say this is the kind
of thing, the kind of thing you say about a
summer blockbuster, right or they come out with a new
flavor of potato chips and you say, well, that's.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
A double thumbs up. Of course, you also know what
this is. This is spin spins, spin spins, spin, spin, spin, spin, spin, spin, spin,
spin spin spin spin spin spin spin spin. That's what
Mike Thomas doing. Obviously, we know that he's selling Aaron
Rodgers love of the game leadership like that that matters.

(22:54):
It's also a backhanded shot at Justin Fields and Russell Wilson.
Right last year, they clearly did not love the game.
They didn't give you that leadership. So does anyone care
whether or not Aaron Rodgers is breaking down film? Is
there anyone? I'm sure there's probably some hard o lot
do I care. I'm into that kind of thing. Okay,
good for you, good for you. Okay, the vast majority

(23:16):
of the rank and file to not really care whether
or not he's breaking down film with his teammates, Aaron Rodgers.
If on Sundays he looks like he's stuck in gridlocked traffic, Okay,
you don't really care. And now imagine, if you will,
had Mike Tomlin come out to the dais and said, listen,
we've had Aaron Rodgers. We thought he was good. The

(23:38):
guy's cooked. We wish he wasn't cooked. He's cooked, and
we really just wanted Aaron Rodgers in Pittsburgh because we
thought he could get us the top magic mushrooms around
and some great ayahuasca, and nobody else in the NFL
can match the ayahuasca we have in Pittsburgh. So that's
really why we wanted Aaron Rodgers. Now, that would be
the mother of all quotes by Mike Tomlin, that that

(24:00):
would be groundbreaking. He didn't say that. Rogers. Here's the
way I look at it. It's gone the way I
imagined as a distant relative of Nostra Damas and friend
of Nostra Dnacy. Lives in Seattle with his wife who's
a vegan. So it's problem anyway. So Rogers has been
not an upgrade. He has not been a downgrade for

(24:23):
the Pittsburgh Steelers. Aaron Rodgers is a lateral move. It
is a lateral move here, it's a flat line. Rogers,
what is my evidence? Well, I've got the eyeball test,
but if you're blind, just go out the numbers as
well or the audio test from listening to the games
on the radio. So Aaron Rodgers is the fourteenth rank
quarterback in football. He is a guy that's in a sandwich.

(24:45):
It's a turd sandwich because on one side you have
Mac Jones of the forty nine ers. On the other
side you have Tyrod Taylor, a couple of backup quarterbacks.
Rogers is stuck between them. You're not waning playoff games
with that type of book. But he loves the preparation,
Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, it's great. You know who else loves preparation,
Bill Nye, the Science Guy. Would you like to see

(25:08):
Bill Nye, the Science Guy, under center against the Ravens
on a third down and twelve in the fourth quarter
in bad weather? I wouldn't. Maybe you would. That should
be actually be good for the show, So I guess
I would like to see that. But here's the thing.
Rogers isn't making anyone better right now. That's the issue.
In his younger days, back in the day, Aaron Rodgers
was able to elevate his teammates, which is what the

(25:29):
great quarterbacks are able to do. That's why Rogers end
up in the Hall of Fame and all that. But
you've got one bazuka, one bazouka, and that's dk Metcalf.
That's it, period, stop, that's all you got everything else
on that roster. You look at the playmakers on the
Pittsburgh Steelers, and it's like a neighborhood garage sale. You
got a lot of cast offs, old lamps. Over to
the right. If you look over the left, there's some

(25:51):
busted TVs, but they're tube TVs. They're not flat screen TVs,
they're tube TVs. And then you've got half used like
yoga mats that have mustard stains on them. I hope
those mustard stains. I don't know. Maybe there's something else
that you got all that, and that is what Rogers
is working with at this particular point. And so this
has gone as we anticipated, as we imagined it would go.

(26:14):
It looks pretty similar to last year. Looks pretty similar
to last year in Pittsburgh. It's not better, it's not worse.
It's the same. And the numbers back that up. The
Steelers are twenty sixth in past year, or they weren't
twenty sixth last year. So they were twenty six last
year when they had justin Fields and Russell Wilson. What
are they this year? Do you think they're like? What
do you think twenty if eighteenth in the NFL in passing? Now,

(26:38):
how about twenty fourth? So they went from twenty six
last year with Justin Fields, who stinks, and Russell Wilson
who's done, and they brought in another washed up quarterback,
Aaron Rodgers. And so they've improved a couple of slots.
And so that that's your double thumbs up we from
Mike tom So, that's that's he's a standard apparently, right,

(27:01):
that's the famous quote from Mike Tomlin. That's the standard.
The standard is the standard. So apparently that's the standard.
Standard is mediocrity. That's it all.

Speaker 4 (27:09):
Right.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Now to TV Land we go where a quarterback who
has been a terrible broadcaster trying to make a name
for himself. Now Drew Brees, the former New Orleans Saints quarterback,
Drew Brees, who had a gig at NBC and was
so bad they kicked him off NBC. I know what
that feels like. So Drew Brees called the Eagles, he
called the Eagles offense boring. He said it's boring, and

(27:32):
he left Jalen Hurts off of his list. Not my list,
Terry in England, that's his list, his list of top quarterbacks.
Early in the NFL season, Drew Brees did not have
Jalen hurts in there, which, by the ways, we'll get
to this at a sec. But it's not that big
a deal. So the question question for you, does Drew

(27:53):
Brees calling the Saints offense barring make sense to you?
And I'm nodding my head. Yes, I'm nodding my head. Yes,
right now. He's not wrong. He's not wrong. The Eagles
offense is efficient. It's not sexy, it's efficient the Eagles.
If you look at the raw numbers, Philadelphia is sitting

(28:15):
twenty ninth in passing yards. Now, I know Ryan Clark's
not gonna like this because I didn't play in the NFL.
I don't think that's good. I don't think that's. Oh,
you shouldn't say that. You shouldn't say that. Why'd you
say that? I don't think it's that good at bottom five.
So that's you know what that is? Sludge? Sludge, that's
oatmeal without brown sugar. Nobody wants it. Nobody wants it.

(28:37):
It's just terrible. What are you doing? And so they're
winning in the math class. See the math class, they're winning,
not the art class. They're not doing well in art.
They're doing well in math. When you peak at the
the numbers here, they're eighth in NFL, eighth in the
NFL points, they're number one in red zone, they're eighth

(29:02):
and third down. So those are all positive numbers. But again,
the art is not there. It's not very artistic, and
it's it's like the kid who gets an A plus
in algebra but then ends up drawing stick figures in
art class. You're like, well, what did you draw that? Well,
that's my art. Well, no, that's not art. That's a
stick figure. Well that's what I do. But you're good
at math. Why are you not good at art? Well,
it's I'm good at math because I like numbers. I'm

(29:23):
not good at art because I don't do art. But
I know, but you gotta try. That's a stick figure.
That's not very good. It doesn't matter. That's my art.
And you go back and forth like that, and the
other thing is, you know it's missing here. The old
Joe Rogan show fear factor, not a lot of fear fact.
Jalen Hurts is not keeping defensive quarters up and night. Well,
who could you say that? The Eagles came back at

(29:43):
Jaalen Hurts living them back. Now, the Eagles won that
game because of special teams, not because of Jalen Hurts.
They won that game that was in the bag for
the Rams. The Rams gave the game away because of
special teams blunders, not because of Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurts
had a great second half. I'll give you that. I'll
give you the game. He's the Rams. Jalen Hurts played well.
Let say I play better than I thought the second half,
had seventeen yards passing at halftime. I believe great in

(30:03):
the second half. But they still win the game because
the special teams, not because they would have lost the
game even with all those passing touchdowns in all those yards.
The Rams were in position to win the game if
it hadn't been for their idiot kick out. I digress.
So the point is the same. Nobody's getting all worked
up about ah Man, we gotta face Jalen Hurts. Were cooked.
Nobody's tossing and turning and can't sleep and turn on

(30:24):
overnight talk radio and say, oh no, oh my god,
how do we stop Jalen Hurts. Things that go bumpity
bump in the night. And then you're like, well, maybe
that guy Hazel will call up and say I know
things that go bumpity bump Hayes in Minnesota. I don't know.
So you're more worried about when you're in Philadelphia're like,
I'm more concerned about do I order the cheese steak

(30:45):
the right way with provolone or do I order it
the wrong way with cheese whizz right. You're more concerned
about that rather than Jalen Hurts beating. So Drew Brees
the buzz of Drew Brees, if you will, And he
got a fair amount of buzz on this. Whether it's
real or not, I don't know. The main reason this

(31:06):
became a thing with Drew Brees is because a he's
milk toast. He's very uninteresting, he's boring. And then b
he went against the ex jock decorum. There's a patriarch
among X shocks that when they get media jobs, you're
supposed to go on TV and radio and do podcasts
and just pat the young kids on the back, right

(31:28):
way to go, pat him on the head, good job
by you, whoever they are, and tell everyone how amazing
and how great every player is and all that stuff.
Celebrate the game. And instead he actually told the truth.
And that was shocking because he said it and doesn't
normally talk like that. And they want their quarterback in

(31:48):
the presidential suite there in Philadelphia, and he's not. That's
not where he belongs. And so of course the some
of the bird brain fans all upset. Now, final point,
we go to a story that could be could be related.
That's a weasel term, could be related to the Philadelphia Eagles.
But it's in Houston, deep in the heart of Texas
and Houston, and that is the situation where the Texans

(32:11):
have fired a defensive player we know of. So question,
why did the Houston Texans release aka fire fire safety CJ.
Gardner Johnson. Yes, that's CJ. Gardner Johnson, the big mouth
after an zero and three start. What's going on there?
So Gardner Johnson, CJ. Gardner Johnson. There about a minute,

(32:34):
about a minute and gone, the next one, they're one
minute gone, the next that's it, poof and that's all.
See you later. Turn out the loft, the parties over.
We're gonna cut your ass. So that is not a
roster move. It's a statement. You know, it's a state. Yes,
you're shaking your head, Yes you're not in your head. Yes,

(32:54):
it is a statement. It is absolutely statement. Demko Ryans,
the coach who's not looking so good right now. Dimiko
Ryans send a message to the room. You guys are
all a bunch of underachievers and heads are going to
row if you do not perform up to our standards.
And so CJ. Gardner Johnson, I know exactly the comp

(33:16):
on him. He is the NFL's version of Patrick Beverly.
That is what CJ. Gardner Johnson is. You hate him
until he's on your team, and then most people, even
when he's on your team, you kind of tolerate him. Nah.
I like Patrick Beverly, but most people don't like his approach.
I love the fact that he celebrated a play in

(33:39):
tournament win for the Minnesota Timberwolves more than any championship.
Someday of Minnesota, the Timberwls will win an NBA championship
and they will not celebrate as passionately as Patrick Beverly
did winning a playing game, which is just tremendous. So anyway, CJ.
Gardner Johnson, get to the point. Please, So this guy
is like a foot long ballpark wiener. He's a front runner.

(34:05):
He's a guy that will chirp and when you're ahead, right,
great front runner, right, and it's like a show pony
and he's chest puffing and strutting around and all that
stuff when things are going well. When you start zero
and three, though, you start doing inventory, and the mustard's
off the foot long ballpark Wiener, the mustard's off the
hot dog. He's you know, he's got the posing and

(34:27):
the preening. But it doesn't really look that good when
you're losing the games. And so it's a good pace car. CJ.
Gardner Johnson is a good pace car. However, when you
are stuck, when you are stuck in the ditch on
the side of the road, he is not helping push
your car out of the ditch. He's not. Instead, the
team's lost three three games to the beginning of the

(34:48):
year here Tennis, Tennessee the Texans, and so he's yelling,
remember that famous scene on the Monday night game, yelling
at Baker Mayfield. And then there was the play, which
is was really the main reason why he was like, oh,
the game in Jacksonville last week. There's about I think
two minutes or so to go in the game, Trevor
Lawrence throws a bomb to Brian Thomas Junior and Gardner

(35:12):
Johnson blew the coverage and that set things up for
Jacksonville in that game. And that was Hammer meeting Nail
in the Texans coffin. Now see there, Gardner Johnson will
likely end up on his feet. There's a shortage of
defensive players like him, and so I can see him
going back to Philadelphia. But the Texans looked at the

(35:33):
film and they're like, well, this guy's gotta go, bye bye,
you gotta go. And it was the coaches who were like,
this guy's These guys get a little too comfortable, Demiko Ryans,
and so we got to shake it up there. And
it's like the coach is saying, Demiko Ryans is like,
I will cut a veteran with a name, a name

(35:53):
that people know of, and I will do it. No
one is safe. You're not safe. You're not safe. You're
not safe. Get in or get out. That's it. And
so it's supposed to be a wake up called will
it work, Well, we'll see what kind of tomato cans
the Texans have upcoming. But if you're you're honest, anywhere CJ.
Gardner Johnson goes, there's an expiration date. Pass some pass

(36:15):
him around. He's a glue guy. He is a glue guy. However,
when you're winning, he's a glue guy. When you're not winning,
he's He's like Elmer glue that doesn't really stick. And
you know it's not a good glue. It's not the
gorilla glue. It's like the Elmers. You know what I'm
talking about. Yet.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
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Speaker 1 (36:37):
Here we go, Here we go, Here we go, Here
we go, Here we go. To the third day, here
we go, here we go. We got real cool? I
forget another game winning drive. This past weekend.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
Many are saying that Baker Mayfield has played his way
into the MVP conversation. Ben, I know it's a bit early. Yes,
do you think Mayfield can put together an MVP season?

Speaker 1 (36:59):
No? I do not wrong market, wrong team. He will
not be the MVP. No, one's really head and shoulders
above everyone else at this point. It's still the feeling
out process. Cool, but I'm gonna say Noan Baker Mayfield
good but not MVP good.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
Next Mike Gundhy and Oklahoma State football have only won
one game over the past twelve games dating back to
last season, and it has people wondering if Gundy has
lost his touch. Gundhi told the media on Monday that
he does not plan on leaving Oklahoma State anytime soon.
But do you think they would ever get rid of him?

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Well, listen, he's a fifteen million dollar check and all that.
Mike Gandhy, I'm a man, I'm forty, come after me.
You know that whole thing. It just feels like it's
gotten stale there, it's gotten stale, and he's you know,
that's why they're they're getting rid of That's why they
fired him. So he's gone, see you later. Got a
big check. Next.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
I was reported on Monday that Rockets point guard friend
Fred van Vliet toward his acl and could miss the
entire season.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
How big of a blow is this for the Rockets? Well,
the problem what I read is they can't replace him
with anyone worth any money because of the Fuges salary capital.
So I guess they're gonna have to get somebody a
job endorsing a fake company so they can keep somebody
on the roster there. But that's about He's a good player.
He's not great player. He's a good player. It's a blow.
They'll be all right though. They've still got some good players.
Read you pass, Mike Gundy. You're fired, Mike Gundy, Get up.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
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Speaker 7 (38:34):
It's a it buzz, good little rain at ten nine
clean up, hearts going to help you. Gear Rye, gear
Rye to nine, gear right and nine.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
Dear Rye. That's right.

Speaker 8 (38:48):
You heard the man. It's time for love here on
the Ben Malae Show. And you know, I usually have
a little snippet of advice at the beginning of my segments.
And I just want to say, who was our caller
earlier this week who said that he's out with a
cougar who was like seventy three.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
Oh, that was mouthwa washing. That was mouthwashed, Mike. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (39:08):
And I just I just want to promote love of
all ages as long as I think they're legal.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
You can date. We don't discriminate. It might be something
other than love.

Speaker 8 (39:18):
I don't know, but yes, there is no restrictions on age.
As long as you have a good connection, go and
enjoy someone's time.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
All right? Well, ferg Dog writes in and says, will
you be watching the new season of The Golden Bachelor
starring NFL legend Mel Owens. I have no idea who
that is?

Speaker 8 (39:35):
Oh my gosh, I thought about watching that, but I'm
going to be honest with you. I heard the first
season was horribly depressing, and I'm used to them being
more fun like, hearted and a little slutty, so it
was I don't know if.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
It was appointing. You want more sluttiness? Okay, I got you, Yeah,
I understand. Mike the Leprechaun says, should you trust a
girlfriend to drive through a city, especially if she has
no sense of direct action? Someone I heard about knew
nothing about Lake Michigan in Chicago.

Speaker 8 (40:05):
He says that, oh yeah, you know, having your girl
drive around a city she's never been to is probably
not the best idea car rentals, but I've seen some
men do a pretty bad job around new cities as well,
So maybe check yourself before you wreck yourself.

Speaker 7 (40:19):
Huh?

Speaker 1 (40:20):
All right? Shane and the Moyne right since says, what
is the best way to break up with someone who
ruined your life and has no one in the state
of Iowa. But you, Oh, no, I'm not I'm not
trying to do this. I'm just saying that things.

Speaker 8 (40:37):
Going my key into the side of there's what you
look at me like that. I'm just they really did
something bad to you. Get them back.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
No, I don't know. I'm not going there. JT. The
wingman says, I am trying to step to the front
of the line for my lady. What's a style of
shoe should I get to make this happen? And then
he's got all the men's shoes here. The he's stepping
to the front of the what. No, he wants you
to choose which shoes women like? Like loafers or Oxford

(41:08):
style shoes, Derby shoes, slip on sandals. You know, I
think boat shoes. You know I don't.

Speaker 8 (41:14):
I'm not a big fan of boat shoes. Okay, boat
shoes are a little lame to me. Slides can be
good on occasion, but you know more, just like a
nice clean pair of shoes. I don't really think it
matters what kind as long as your shoes are clean.
If you have scuffs and dirt marks and holes in
your shoes. It's not looking good for you.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
Okay, all right, Andy and Lino Lakes, Minnesota. SISI, Lorena?
Am I being selfish? My girlfriend has been hinting about
marriage with life expectancy of men being aged seventy five
and me being sixty one. Why the hell would I
want to spend the last fourteen years of my life
in fear and anguish?

Speaker 2 (41:47):
Well?

Speaker 8 (41:47):
I do want to also remind you those last fourteen
years of your life, you could go downhill in your health.
So having someone there who could take care of you is.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
Actually not that there's no ninety there's no guarantee that
they will stay with you. That is true as well.

Speaker 8 (41:59):
But you know, love, love should be able to break
those boundaries no matter how old you are.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
Key Drinking Steve is on the phone. Hello, Kay drinking Steve.

Speaker 7 (42:08):
Oh, good morning America.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
I got a great question for Spin it Up. Well, Uh,
Tom Brady is all right, BP says, are the queens
of diamonds, clubs and spades jealous of Lorena? Do you
think that?

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (42:29):
The queen of hearts is a little you know, it's
a lot some.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
Times not that easy right. People don't realize what goes
into this segment. They think you just show up here
and just a.

Speaker 8 (42:38):
Research love all day, all week and every week. I'm
like the bachelorette out on these streets in research in Chicago.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
You were studying love while you were in Chicago. The
whole time, the whole weekend was a love of.

Speaker 4 (42:50):
Kidding.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
All right.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Meller
Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific. Attention,
everyone is password, you idiot, password the word Game of
the Stars.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
It's going to be a very quick game. Heavy Metal
Kevin's gonna play. You'll match up with Coop and Mark.
Who do you want to partner up with? Mark?

Speaker 2 (43:17):
Go with you?

Speaker 1 (43:18):
And I want to be known as the original then
the original Mark from the North end. All right, let's
go quickly. Pick a number there, heavy metal Kevin. Hold on,
I mean make sure I punched the right lineup? Heavy
metal Kevin. Pick a number, Kevin, No one to ten six?

(43:39):
All right, go ahead, you haven't called go ahead, Kevin.
Let's go with barter Barker, Barter, No, No, Mark, how
about deal deal?

Speaker 8 (43:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (43:54):
There you go. All right, we got that one and
go ahead. Mark, pick a number one to ten but
not six. Number one, number one? All right, how about workout, workout? Yeah,
we gotta come out. It's all of it too. Mark,
you the mass, that's the original Mark from the North End. Sorry,

(44:15):
heavy heavy, heavy metal cap. You haven't called it months
and all we needed was two words. We won the game.
That's a loss. You lost password the high red version
of password.
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