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October 20, 2025 • 40 mins

Ben Maller talks about how bad starter Logan Gilbert was for the Mariners, what's most exciting about a Game 7 between the Jays and the Mariners, the Giants blowing a 19-0 lead in the 4Q to lose to the Broncos, who is most responsible for the epic choke job, and much more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Here we go. Welcome, it's our number what our number one?
And we're ready for some fun here on our number
one of the Ben Mathers Show. We start out talking
Bay's ball. That's right, ALCS Game six from Canada, And
how do you explain how bad starter Logan Gilbert was

(00:21):
for the Mariners as they were behind the eight ball
to begin the game never tasted the lead. Also, what
are you most excited about for a Game seven between
the Jays and Mariners. It's tonight, it's own like, don't
get on and we'll preview that Game seven matchup, although
we don't know the pitchers as the time we were
doing the show overnight. Also in football, the Giants blew

(00:44):
a nineteen to nothing lead and lost to the Broncos.
Who's most responsible for Brian Dayball's giant epic choke job?
And does day Ball the coach survive after this unprecedented
choke job by his team. We'll talk about all that
and more right now, give it up for our number one.

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So our lead this hour, I'm gonna start with baseball
and the football Week seven of the NFL, we'll mix
that in as well. We're gonna start with the baseball playoffs,
the American League Championship Series. Oh god, one wins. He

(03:12):
had lead, one win Sunday night to get it done.
And while the NFL played from morning tonight all day,
there was just one Island game in Major League Baseball.
This was a one slot left in the World Series
and Seattle visiting the four to one six area code
and opportunity to punch their ticket to the Fall Classic

(03:34):
and a date with the Doyers. And that was what
was on the line. There is win. You had two
chances to win one game. But if you win the
first game, you know, if we worry about the second game.
And so they sent out Logan Gilbert. Seattle did to
the man, all right, Logan Gilbert, to just give us
a solid out and give us a chance to win
the game. Give us an opportunity to win the game,

(03:55):
and the opposition there for the Blue Jays, they were
with Trey you Savage and how did that go? Well?
Vladdie Guerrero was laughing and smiling, having a grand time
as he was playing the role of spoiler. And now
he's set himself up. He had a home run there.
If you didn't see it, sixth home run of the postseason. Remember,

(04:16):
I'm alding to remember those first couple of games when
the Blue Jays were terrible against the Mariners and we
were what's going on? What's going on with Ladimirguerre. Well
he's back, so he goes and HiT's a sixth home run.
The rookie Treyy Savage struck out seven in five and
two thirds innings. I've told that's good. The blue Jays
force eight games. How cool is this game seven? We

(04:39):
got a game seven. It's on Monday night there. They
beat the Mariners six to two. The final I have
a better story is in the losing locker room, the
Seattle side of things, as the Mariners end up getting
waylaid by the Blue Jays in this game. They were
never had the lead, they never didn't play well. It
was sloppy all over the place. So let us discuss

(05:00):
the question. Though it's on the mound, the jumping off
point is on the mound. You had a rookie for
Toronto who went out there and he wasn't great, but
was better than the guy that the Mariner started. So
how do you explain how bad bad to the bone
Logan Gilbert was for the Mariners with a chance to
push Seattle to the World Series. So on this one,

(05:23):
I've got boombox, skinny jeans, and Carnival cruise and we
will combine all of these things together and we are
going to have some delicious chocolate chip cookies, all right,
So ay, let's just call it what it is. Logan
Gilbert went out to the mound with the weight of

(05:44):
legends like Alvin Davis and Jim Presley and Jay Butter
and all these other old Mariners. He went out there
on the biggest stage of his life. He had pitched
well in the playoffs prior to the league Championship series, right,
we saw him have some big starts against the big
appearances against the Detroit Tigers, and the lights got very
bright there and the Blue Jays cranked the volume up

(06:05):
to eleven and how did that go? The pitcher there
melted like a snow cone in July, did not go
very well. And all the success that he had against
the old English d and fizzled fast in this game.
You saw you know what I'm talking about. I was
on FS one here. The box score was bad if
you didn't watch the game, Oh watch football, and so

(06:26):
I don't watch baseball. I shut up. So the box
score was bad. However, it felt much worse watching Logan
Gilbert pitch like I'm surprised it wasn't. It wasn't more
lopsided than it was the way he pitched. It was
a parade of base runners. Gilbert at this point needed
someone from Baywatch to come, and he needed a lifeguard
to help Monte was drowning on the mountain. Now, meanwhile,

(06:47):
the Blue Jays mentioned they sent the rookie out, Trey
y Savage, who in many ways was like houdin the
Getting Out of Jams here for the Toronto baseball team.
And Gilbert on the other side, even though he had
more experience, he's the one that needed a diaper change
and he wasn't fooling anybody, and he couldn't work his
way out of issues. And the four seamer was flat,

(07:10):
as the guys like to say. And the slider no
bite you need? Where's the bite? There is no bite
on the slider. And so the flop sweat was pouring
down was not going well. In fact, you could have
filled a kiddie pool with the amount of choke that
was coming off Gilbert in this particular start against Toronto.
And so he gets to wear the letterman's jacket. Congratulations

(07:33):
on this. You get the big l which is stitched
on to the letterman's jacket loser. And it was the theme.
If there was a song for this start for Logan Gilbert,
number thirty six in year program, but number zero in
your Mariner Heart, that would be Bruce Springsteen getting out
the boombox there and cranking up the blinded by the light,

(07:54):
the light of the World series for Seattle was on
the line. And now now you screwed this up. And
so now we have a game seven and two starts
for Logan Gilbert in the American League Championship Series, and
the results were mixed. His ERI was not a seven
point seven to one earned run average for Logan Gilbert

(08:16):
in the American League Championship Series. That is bulletin board
worthy in Seattle, not in a good way. That is
tattoo worthy, the suck tattoo Holy Canoli. So there you go.
Give up twelve hits in his two starts, eight runs,
seven earned, I believe is the numbers on that. Now. Meanwhile,
mention there's a game seven. So now it is down

(08:37):
to one night only in the American League Championship Series.
So the question is what are you most excited about
in anticipation of Game seven of the Alcs, the Jays
and the Mariners. The winner gets a chance to play
the Doyers in the Fall Classic. So this is game seven.

(09:00):
That Game five is good, but Game seven is better
than the Game five. That Game five we had Tigers
and Mariners played Game five and fifteen innings and all
that Game seven, though I knew it is pure cinema,
pure cinema. That's what we're gonna get here. October Baseball drama,
O rama, all of that. The stakes the al pennant
at the end of the game on Monday night is

(09:21):
see going to be the Mariners win the pennant. The
Mariners win the pennant or the oh god, the Blue
Jays are back in the World Series for the first
time in like a gazillion years, and all that stuff
and a playdate. As we mentioned with Shoeo Tani and
the Doyers in the twenty twenty five World Series. It
is interesting note if Toronto wins Game one of the
World Series will be Friday night in Ontario. If the

(09:45):
Mariners win, Game one will be in Los Angeles with
rush hour traffic, gridlock in LA on Friday night in
rush hour. Now here's what I love, get down to it.
Here's what it makes win right. Everything that has happened
is prologue, everything that has taken place leading up to
Game seven, like all if you watch all six games

(10:06):
of this and the crazy start where the Mariners looked wonderful.
The first two games, the Blue Jays looked like they
were they were going on vacation, and everything that changed
when we flipped up to across the North American content
there to Seattle. But the thing that's great is the
it's one game. It's analytics go out the window in
manyways because it's it's Game seven. It's not you don't

(10:27):
have a large sample size. It's one game. That's it.
The scouting report says blah blah blah blah blah. But
your throw it in the trash. You can burn it
the whole thing. And this is a night where careers
are defined and the marketing campaign about ah, the legends
are born in October. Well, legends are born in October,
but they also die in October too, and you have

(10:49):
to take a long time to recover from a stink
bomb performance. For example, you've got Vladimir Guerrero Junior on
one side, and there was a chance he would have
just played out the year and gone into the market
as a free agency signed forever contract with the Toronto
Blue Jays, so he's locked in there. He hasn't gotten

(11:09):
it done in the Plauffs. This year is getting it
done and beat the Yankees up. But look at an
opportunity to go to the World Series of the Blue Jays.
Holy Joe, Carter Batman have a chance to do that.
Cal Raley on the other side, this is uncharted territory.
Ken Griffey Jr. And those great Mariner teams with a
Rod and those guys back in the day, and they
never got here. So these guys are either going to

(11:30):
be immortalized just by getting the World Series. And then
if they win it, that's like a higher plane, that's
like a higher level and all that. And if they
do get this done to win the Pennant, then you
get that glossy World Series montage you're included in and
all that. And I'm gonna spend the next decades. Oh
remember when they won the pennant. Oh man, this is
a big deal. We won the bet and if you lose,

(11:52):
oh man, holy crap. The whole building is going to
be tight, which is great. And we talk off it
about tight took a syndrome and who can overcome that?
And this is a great opportunity. Who will succumb to
that situation. It's kind of like tight took a syndrome.
How to describe it. It's kind of like wearing skinny
jeans and eating birthday meal and cake. You know, suddenly

(12:14):
those skinny jeans a little tight, little tight things a
little tight there. And so that's where we are. You know,
the Xanax will be going out there like buttered popcorn
at a movie theater. Everyone's gonna be on it at
Loggers Heads with just the moment, and I think it's great,
because somebody's gonna choke epically and I will be here
to document it. Now, will we get a choke job

(12:36):
like that picture for the Phillies that gagged that series
away on a two hopper back to the mount He
chucked the ball behind the catcher. And that was it
for the Philadelphia Phillies. Now that would be extra special
in a Game seven situation here, But again, the matchups
don't matter, home field doesn't matter. There's no script at
all that the breaking down launch angles momentum, as John

(13:02):
Smolts likes to say, all that doesn't matter, all right,
comes down to who doesn't soil themselves in the moment
in game seven. So that's what it's all about, that simple.
And it's kind of like the players on the Mariners
and Blue Jays. You think of them like tea bags
and you're gonna find out what they're made of when
they hit the hot water. You know, not all tea

(13:24):
bags are the same. There, ask Peyton Manning about that. Now,
Vladdie is gonna be the man or is he gonna
be the stooge? We will We will find out. And
you got the big dumper on the other side about
you know, all the things that have been said about
his season, the most impressive playoff regular season combined. If
you get to the World Series, because the other players

(13:46):
that have hit all these home runs did not finish
the job, and if cal Raley can finish the job,
then okay. And so it's all hands on deck. Starters
will be coming out of the bullpen. You're gonna get that.
Closers will be in the sixth inning, and we'll be there.
I'll be sitting down. I will watch the game for you.
If you don't care about baseball, I will watch the
Blue Jays and the Mariners so you do not have to.

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All right, last word, we go to the NFL the
game of the day in Denver, and we witnessed one
of the most pathetic choke jobs in the history of
pro football. It impossible happened because of absolute mouthfeasance by
the New York Giants, period stop. No real debate about that.

(14:28):
And my god, the Giants were up nineteen to nothing
against the Broncos going to the fourth quarter, a Denver
team that was just not their day. They were behind
the eight ball. Maybe they were using eight ball, I
don't know. They were just terrible and somehow the Giants,
because of their generosity, they managed to screw things up

(14:49):
so royally that they allowed the Denver Broncos to score
thirty three points in the final fifteen minutes and lost.
The Giants did on a walk off field goal. How
is that even possible? That's a biblical choke job that
will be in the Bible. It's a King James Bible.
It's in there somewhere. That is believe. NFL teams, they

(15:11):
had the stat NFL teams sixteen hundred and two straight
games when leading by eighteen or more points they had won.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
So you know this.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Announcers always said, well, you never know, this team could
come back. No, ninety nine percent of the time, the
team never comes back. This ninety nine point nine percent
of time doesn't happen. This time it happened. And my god,
Brian day Ball, let's discuss the question who's most responsible

(15:41):
the better story on the losing side, who's most responsible
for Brian dave Balls Giants doing the belly whopper and
getting smoked in the fourth quarter by the Denver Broncos.
So this was not a partial collapse. This was a
full monty collapse from soup to nuts, from A to
Z any other way you want to say it, in

(16:02):
all three phases of suck, which is impressive. Right. You
had the special teams. The idiot kicker for the Giants
missed multiple, multiple extra points, so that's in f up.
You've got the defense with sloppy tackling, just generally lazy
football by the Giants after playing really solid I thought

(16:24):
for the maybe I was wrong, got the first three quarters,
I thought they looked pretty good. You've got the offense
with the rookie Jackson Dart the new Messiah, the new
savior of the Giants, and Jackson Jackson Dark goes out
there and stunk it up in the fourth quarter, had
an interception that helped fuel the comeback. Without that, Denver

(16:46):
doesn't have enough gusto to come back and win the game.
And so you mix in coaching malpractice with lase fair
lazy river football by the Giants, and you have been
able to achieve the un achievable. Congratulations, congratulating, just when
you thought the Giants had turned the corner and they'd

(17:06):
arrived and okay, they got their quarterback. They got scataboo
scataboo boo, he's got the name and all that. All right,
Well here's Brian Dayball, who should be unemployed at this
point but apparently is not, and here is him trying
to spin the unspinnable. Let's take a list. Yeah, tough loss, loss,

(17:27):
So not a lot of talking that needs to be
done when you lose a game like that. Everybody gave
everything they had. Oh they did really, Okay, it didn't
look like it on my TV. Maybe my TV's I
got an old TV. Maybe that's the problem, because it
looked like they thought the game was over and uh yeah,
wow wow wow, wow wow wow. All right, so mentioned
Jackson Dart not good, not good, Uh just all of

(17:49):
it was was god awful. Here is Dart on how
you quarterback the game. I don't care if you're a
rookie or not. You quarterback were the greatest choke jobs.
With like five minutes to go, the Broncos were getting smoked,
and they came back and went, explain yourself, Jackson Dart.
I never felt like we were gonna lose the game.
So you know, I looked at the clock when they scored,

(18:12):
I said, and we got a lot of time left.
I had no doubt that we were gonna go down
there and score. Well, guess what your defense, you didn't.
You didn't, you left too much time. Whatever. The Giants
took a carnival cruise and the destination they clearly did
not look at the destination. Their cruise was titled crap
your pants, and they crapped their pants right there mile

(18:35):
high crap, which I think is better for you. It
clears out your system. So congratulations and bow Nicks, the
beneficiary of all this, who stunk for three quarters right
Broncos had nothing going on offensively, and then he turns
into John Elway in the final fifteen minutes. Here Nicks
had one hundred and seventy four yards passing forty six

(18:56):
yards on the ground in the fourth quarter, inverted a
bunch of two point conversions, had two touchdowns on the
ground too, through the air, and again not possible without
football incompetence by the New York Giants. There the Giants
were thunderstruck. They thought, well, just like Jackson Dart said that, ah,
we have plenty of time. Well we're gonna win this game.

(19:17):
Don't worry that we have such a big league the
Broncos can't come back. And then the Broncos came back,
so the Giants gave them oxygen. So does Brian day
Ball survive as coach of the Giants? Now, you'd say
he shouldn't. He doesn't deserve when you look at his
resume and how horrific the Giants have been. What a

(19:38):
laughing stock, what a fraudulent franchise the Giants have been
for years since he took over. And you, well, you
fight it, but that's the Giants. Don't do that. This
should have been fired two years ago. Brian dave Ball
should have been let go. It's a joke, but that's
how the Giants operator. That's why they're frauds. The New
York Giants are frauds. They they allow this kind of

(19:58):
crap to go on, This malfeasans by Brian dabol who's
clearly incompetent as a head coach. I mean, my god,
Den the Giants with the interception and some sloppy tackling
and some penalties whatever, the Giants gave the Broncos a
little bit of oxygen and they went through that door
like it was a Black Friday sale at Walmart. They

(20:20):
were just going for it. And if that doesn't get
you fired. What else? I would have had him fired
multiple times? What else does one have to do to
lose their job. He's a nice guy, I don't. I
mean he's good. He's a nice guy. Congratulations, glowing stories
about what a wonderful person. The writers like him. Paul
a game, give him thirty three points in the fourth quarter.

(20:41):
I mean, I'm guaranteeing you. The tabloids in New York
already had the headline the Giants are gonna win the game.
They're ready to go, and then surprise, surprise, surprise. You
lose a game like that, you should be sent to
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and now back to it. Don't you no? But some
of our callers do, but we do not. The callers
we cannot say they do not. But that's just the
way it is. Anyway, we are hanging out together here
in the malerd militia. A lot to say, as they
always do on the social media pages. So we'll start
with that. Scrooge says, starting to show up with baseball

(23:59):
instead of football, is appropriate. He says the NFL games
were trash, including that Broncos game. When you pay attention
to the details, you could have started your show with
ping pong. It would have been better than NFL talk,
says Scrooge. Isn't Scrooge like a Warriors fan. So he's

(24:21):
a Warriors fan, but he's a Raiders fan right in
the rat I think, ah, that makes sense. Yeah, if
you're a Raiders fan, I would agree. I mean, my god,
there are so many it's fascinating me. I know in baseball,
I was around baseball a lot. Back in the basketball,
they play a lot of games, and you're gonna have
a stinker every once in a while, right, you just
are he's be ready to go whatever. You shouldn't be
like that, but that's the way it is. In football.

(24:44):
You have seventeen games in the regular season. It fascinates
me these no show performances, these teams that are guilty
of absenteeism in the NFL. You should never ever lose
a game thirty one nothing, which the Raiders did. You
should never ever lose a game thirty one to six

(25:07):
the Cleveland, which the Miami Dolphins managed to do. You
should never ever get smoked by the Rams without Pooka
Nakoua thirty five seven like Jacksonville did. It is unreal,
how pathetic, Just the lack of attention to detail these

(25:29):
NFL teams, so many of them have every week. It's
fascinating and also madening too, I know, from handicapping the games,
because you just don't know who's gonna show up and
who's not going to show up. And a lot of
the old things that we used to use, the mental
tricks and whatnot, those don't always work. It's really scattershot,
real scattershot. Completely. Well, any let's go to the phones.
Let's say hello to eeny Meani Mine. You know who's

(25:52):
not there?

Speaker 4 (25:52):
Ben?

Speaker 1 (25:52):
What's that coup moving man? Matt? He's not on the phone.
I don't see him. Yeah, that's correct, although I think
is Andrea Giants fan? I don't know. Let me see
he might be a Giants fan? Andre? Are you a
Giants fan? And I know you're from New Jersey? Are
you a Giants fan? Andre? In the Commonwealth?

Speaker 3 (26:06):
Hello, Ben, very good to be with you after some
time having succume in part due to the dreaded day Ship.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
No, no, okay, all right, all right, see I falls alone.
I thought you know, New Jersey, Okay, Jets fan, I
got you, all right, So yeah, it worse to be
right now. Well, the Giants actually thought they were going
to be good, So this sucks much more for the Giants.
Get for thinking, yeah, I should never think.

Speaker 6 (26:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
Jets are in the March for Arch, which doesn't look
very good because March for Arch.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
Wait wait wait, wait good? No, I I watched some
of that Texas game. Who'd they play on Saturday? Was
it Arkansas? My god? Oh no, Kentucky. They played Kentucky
and he was terrible. Oh my god, I guess Kentucky.
Kentucky football, not basketball, Andre not basketball. Football off, Kentucky
football shut him down.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
Tim Texas entire team with all their nil money. But
I was a book line and thinker, and then arch
manning camp. But I'm gonna have to back off that take.
He's definitely not ready to for the NFL after this season.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
He's so bad. He's so bad. I don't think the
Winnipeg Blue Bombers are gonna sign him to a contract.
He's that bad. He's terrible. He's gonna have to go back.
And here's The great thing about arch Manning, and we
talked about this, I think it was in it last
week on the show. It's like, if his name wasn't Manning,
if his surname wasn't man he would have already been benched.
His performance is worthy of being benched. The guy stinks,

(27:36):
but they play him because he's a Manning and that's
the that's the cachet that that name has, the Manning
bloodlines in the NFL. He doesn't deserve to play. That's
a blue chip university and he's a terrible quarterback. He
didn't call about that though, Andre I'm sorry, go ahead, please,
I did you know?

Speaker 3 (27:53):
And his nil money is also a reason why they
can't bench him. You know, he's top he might be
the number one, but he certainly top three four in
nil and it's just you never know. Smoking marriage is
going to take him time for Archie j E.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
P s get take him time. He's been he was
in cost like two years is a backup. Will you
take him time? What are you talking about? Taking him
tide place? Take him time? No time, there's no time.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
But my point is, you know he's gonna be there
for four years. But back to the Giants where you
started again, Let's get let's get let's get on topic here, okay,
because this was a needed victory. What the heck is
going on with their kicker? Huh? I'm going back to
freaking nineteen ninety, wasn't it Scott Norwood for the Bills
who missed the kick? Now it's not the same obviously
in the Super Bowl versus missing, but the Giants needed
this win, if not the win, at least a tie.

(28:39):
What are you doing? Okay, that's my main thing. To
defend the game in the overtime. If you lose in overtime,
at least they have some respect for the kicking them
missed that and then them to lose in their last
second field goal and a game that they needed to win. Now, listen,
I'm no huge Brian dave Olfit apparently he thought that
Saint Kawan Barkley was was dispensable, not indispensable, but dispensable.
And how has that worked out for him and their

(29:00):
leadership in the general?

Speaker 1 (29:01):
Men?

Speaker 3 (29:01):
So I got no love for these guys, but I
wanted them to at least have the opportunity to lose
the game in overtime. That's what upsets me, Jackson Dart.
He showed well obviously that they made the right decision
going from Russell Wilson giving the young kid a chance.
But they were right and they were been Listen the team,
if you have a losing mentality doesn't matter if you're up,
you know, thirty or forty. That's what happened with the
Atlanta Falcons against my New England Patriots. Right, they're not winners,

(29:24):
so they get a big lead, but they don't believe
that they're gonna win. So the other team.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Comes to no, they thought, disagree. They thought they were
gonna win the game. They thought the game was over.
They just assumed the game was mathematically it should have
been over. I mean, that is unreal what they did.
There's no excuse for it. But no, it's not. They
don't know how to win. They thought they had already won.
They just assumed they'd won the game, and then they
all of a sudden, before they knew it, they were drowning.

Speaker 6 (29:48):
All right, So what.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
Needs to happen? Bennett conclusion, They might have to bring
back big big big Bill Parselves.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
Okay, we might have to bring and I think he's
aged out. I don't think Bill's in any physical addition
to coach anymore. It's a nice thought, but I think
get how old this part says an like in his
mid eighties. I don't think that's gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
He's up there, he's up there. But the giant SATs something.
And it might not be gettmen or our gayble or
what they have going on right now, but just say
it hurts my heart. Okay, Ben, I'm thrilled to be
back with you, Adred day chef that is kicking my behind.
I'm waiting looking forward to Thanksgiving. I can be back
regularly thanks taking that Oh there he goes.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
We have to wait for thanks another month or so.
And then Andrea returned. I'm so excited to eat. You're
you can need any eat every day. Yeah, but Thanksgiving specifically,
you know, extra love, extra stuffing on the side, not
a big turk. The Gibletz giblitz are special. I feel
like this. I don't want to do a whole Thanksgiving

(30:45):
thing because I don't. No, I'm not. If I want
a big meal, I can go get a big Let's
go to Bennett. Is this Bennett the comedian? Hello, Bennett
the comedian. What's going on, Bennett.

Speaker 6 (30:57):
All I can say, man, is I have been out
for three weeks and I don't know how to cope
with that. You know why, why that being because the
stinking Mariners don't know how to win a game and
put us out of our misery.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Well, they're gonna put you out of your misery one
way or another. So they're either they're gonna win the
night and you're gonna go to the World Series in
La on Friday, or you're gonna lose and then you're
gonna be pointing fingers and goofing and mocking on a
bunch of guys.

Speaker 6 (31:27):
I don't know, but it's been more stressful, Like I mean,
it's been up and down and up and down, and
I mean I'm I totally. I was at that game
five U in Seattle where Gino hit the two home runs. Yeah,
I've never heard that play so loud. It was thinking
louder than the Seahawks game. So that was pretty cool.

(31:48):
But I hope they make it to the World Series. Obviously,
tickets are like quarter of like three grand for the nosebleed,
so that's probably not gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
Nah, But you can go like get be around the vibe.
You know, you don't have to go to the game,
but you can go and be around the vibe. It's
all about the vibe. That's what I heard somebody.

Speaker 6 (32:05):
It's quite. The city is probably going to burn down
if they win the World Series, even if they make
it there, but it's been.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
Quite a Well that's a great burn the whole place down?
Why not? What the hell.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
You?

Speaker 6 (32:17):
That game five? That when they played the Tigers in
the Division Series. My my school, we had a little
event and uh, you know, a family event for the
whole school and we had like the biggest watch party
in the main room at the high school. Yeah, and
then we there was like twenty of us that stayed

(32:38):
until like ten o'clock at night when that game got
over with, and half of it were like three quarters
of it were kids and then the rest of them
were a couple of adults there. And when they won
that game, I mean, we took off down that hallway.
It was the coolest Mariners moment I've ever been.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
That's good. Well, see that'll be a wonderful memory, a
great memory that you will.

Speaker 6 (32:57):
Now we need to make it to the World Series
and win. But up about me, Ben, how have you
been well?

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Thanks for asking. You know, I made a wrong turn
on the way here. I spent two hours, now two
hours getting here. They decided closely four oh five freeway.
I thought it was gonna be open by the time
I drive in, but apparently it was not. So I
got a guy. I got a good tour. Bennett of
West Los Angeles. Uh, yeah, it was wonderful. It's nice
to explore the city. Bumper to bumper. I've done that.

(33:23):
I used to be a hang out there back in
the day.

Speaker 6 (33:25):
But ump bump, oh, bumper to bumper is terrible. You
should come up to Seattle. Yeah, so it's bumper to
bumper everywhere. We're five years behind with roads and everything.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Everyone's five years behind roads everything. You should be like Boston.
They just built the tunnels under the ground so you
can't see the traffic. It's just under the ground there.
That's what they did. They put everyone under the round.
But Ben, I've got your you called in man. Good
to hear from you. I say good luck to your
mariners their pal.

Speaker 6 (33:50):
Hopefully you're thanks for taking my call.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
All right, there you go. We love. Bennett and his
younger sister were on the Mallor Palooza this summer. It
was very cool. So it was they were a great
team yep tag team there in the Mallet Paloza, which
will be back again next summer, the biggest event of
the summer. But we're not in the summer anymore, so
I can't worry about that anyway. It is the Ben
Mahlor Show. As we are rolling through the overnight hours,

(34:15):
we get to setting the stage. But time now for
the who am I? Game? So mentioned in that ALCS
Game six, Toronto, with the win pitcher Trey You Savage
became the first pitcher since me to induce inning ending
groundball double plays in three straight innings of a postseason game.
It very rarely happens again. Toronto's Trey y Savage became

(34:39):
the first pitcher since me to induce inning ending ground
ball double plays in three straight innings of a postseason game.
Who That is the who am I?

Speaker 4 (34:51):
Game?

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Who am I? The answer? We'll get to it and
we will do it next.

Speaker 4 (35:01):
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Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific, Bill
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Speaker 1 (35:07):
It is the Ben Maler Show. Up all night every night.
Good to have you alongside. Don't forget as a fellow
insomniac at night Owl. Remember the Mallard Militia. Don't just listen,
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(35:31):
on Fox and on Facebook Ben Mahler's Show. It's a
nice ask Ben. That took place only for those that
follow on Facebook The Ben Maler Show. Paid. You didn't follow,
You didn't get it. Behind the scenes questions answers Overnight Madison,
we have a circus. Support the circus, our tent, never

(35:53):
ever close it. Back to it, Back to it we go.
And here is is the who am I Game? This
is where we pretend to be Syvie else. Let's we
call it the who m I? Game? Toronto's Trey Y
Savage became the first pitcher since me to induce inning
ending ground ball double plays in three straight innings. The

(36:15):
Mariners were on the cusp of breaking through, and you
Savage was able to get them to hit into groundball
double plays. That is the question, what is the answer?
And let's see, does anyone know the answer? Mister nice
guy going with an iconic name, Paul Austenmacher. Good name,
good old guy baseball name. That's a good name, right,
that's the old guy baseball name. Alf the Alien Opter says,

(36:37):
Count von Count is the correct answers, Count van Count
a friend of Burdon Ernie, are an enemy of Burton Ernie?
I don't know. Rob the Goatman says, may he rested
peace to Screech Powers Megan Trainer from Bobby in Florida.
Who else we have? Stuck in Sacramento, says Trey's brother Randy.

(36:59):
Macho man savage, There you go. Picture was clearly taken
at a Diddy party, says Stuck in Sacramento. Femi in
Minnesota going with Carson Wentz as his answer. Very impressive
for the Minnesota Vikings. We'll talk more about that later.
Good job by the Viking off and six trips to
the red zone, and they somehow lost that game because
of incompetence by Carson Wentz. Mordecai three fingers brown from

(37:24):
Eke in Roseville, Minnesota. Fastball Freddie Peralta King Roy. Very
impressive by Freddie Parolta. I thought he did a hell
of a job. Gary Carter from Shane in Des Moines
expos Legend Fergdog says, my favorite Thanksgiving side dish cranberry sauce. Yes,
the gelatin cranberry. James is going with Kirk Reader as
his answer. Julio Iglesias from the Real Martin. We believe

(37:47):
he still works at the airport in Denver. Freeman says,
I am Springfield Mayor Diamond Joe Quimby, that that is
the answer. Who else do we have? Page down? Tippy
Martinez from the Icon Command Well in Guardina, Mike in
New Hampshire's up with us all night? He says, rain
Man is the answer, and he's not talking about Gunner

(38:10):
at the Walmart in Minnesota. But Gunner's back hasn't called anymore,
but he's back. He says. The answer is justin Fields.
That that is the answer. Big Lou He's on number
two and he's going with peerless price. It's his answer.
That's good. Big rig Rob from the Great Pacific Northwest
says that delicious snicker doodle grits which we had at
the end of last week, all right. Another that Lorraina

(38:32):
do you have an answer. Here's the who am I game? Again?
Toronto's tree is Savage became the first pitcher since me
to induce a inning ending ground ball double play in
three straight innings of a postseason game. It doesn't happen
very often. Donnie Darko is coming to my head for
this one. Ben, Really, what team does he play for?

(38:53):
The Rabbits? The Rabbits, Okay, that's a team.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (38:56):
The Rochester Rabbits, right, the Scare Rabbits, the Scare Okay,
that is unfortunately incorrect. The correct answer. Treya Savage, the
first pitcher since Chris Carpenter of the Saint Louis Cardinals
the Redbirds twenty years ago. Twenty years ago was the

(39:17):
five National League Divisional Series in Game one of the NLDS.
And then prior to that, though you got to go
back another ten years, so thirty years ago, and Tom
Glavin of the Atlanta Broys, the hockey player Tom Glavin,
that was in the nineteen ninety five NLCS Game number one.

(39:39):
There you go. Those are the three pitchers in recorded
baseball history to get it done. And good luck to
Treya Savage if Toronto does make the World Series trying
to do that against the Dawyers. We'll see if that
works out. Of course, if Toronto can get to the
Dodger starters, we'll have a chance. But so the Phillies said,
oh well, get to the bullpen we'll be okay. The Brewers.

(40:02):
Same thing didn't quite work out so well for those teams,
did it. No,
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