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So the NHL season came too, went in Colorado. The
Stanley Cup champis congratulations and then the lightning go down.
But our lead this hour coming from the sap as
in Warren sapp at one point, a legendary figure on
the field Hall of Fame, defensive star from a previous
generation and we've not talked about Warren Sapp. And sometime
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last time we talked about Warren Sapp, he was losing
his television job because of not paying his bills. Shall
we say with some ladies that were helping him out
allegedly do we have to say legend? I don't know
if we say allegedly in that anyway, Warren Sapp has unloaded,
unloaded on a very polarizing player. So if you didn't
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see this, and perhaps not, Warren Sapp not sugarcoating what
he has heard about Colin Kaepernick's work. I remember Kaepernick
worked out for the Raiders a month ago in Vegas,
and nothing has happened since then? Well, why has nothing
happened since then? Well, Warren Sapp, rather than me tell you,
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Warren Sapp said, here's the Warren Sap in his own words.
All right, hold on a sec here. Cooper was a
little late tonight, so we'll try to get that going
for you here, Warren Sapp, let's see here on Colin Kaepernick.
Do we have the audio tape? Let's find out here. Oh,
here we go, let's play there. Finally, all right, hallelujah,
here we go. I heard it was a disaster. I
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heard one of the worst workouts ever. I'm wondering how
the hell this happened and the tape didn't get out right,
I mean, somebody wasn't over the fence of nothing. Come on, man,
come on man. Yeah, all right. So that quote, that's
the one right there that started bouncing around, disaster, one
of the worst workouts ever. That's from Vlad TV. They
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sent that in and I don't know, there's like a
gossip channel or something like that. Now, that quote bouncing, bouncing,
bouncing around the old echo chamber. And that led to
a rebuttal from Kaepernick's agent. Imagine being Kaepernick's agent. He
hasn't worked in the NFL in years, He's still got
an agent. Yikes, somebody named Jeff Nally. I believe he's
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his name. Never heard of that guy. I'm not apparently
a good agent at least in terms of getting Kaepernick
an NFL job. So the agent for Kaepernick responded, slamming
a Warren sap. He said, quote, I guess Warren didn't
talk to the general manager of the head coach. Kaepernick's
agent said. He said he the agent spoke to the
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Raiders general manager several times and claimed that although Kapp
was he thought Cap was in great shape through the
ball well blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, and
said any team could contact the Raiders and they would
say the same thing. Supposed tell him the same thing.
All right, So this is a he said, he said situation.
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On one side, you have the agent for Colin Kaepernick.
On the other side you have Warren Sap. So toss
up question who is closer to the truth, Warren Sap
or Colin Kaepernick's agent. So the EIRRA on this one
is pointing towards a Warren Sap. I'm on team Sap
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on this one. I've got leftovers, turtle wax, and safety
deposit box, and we will tie all of these random
things together, and that is how we are going to
make the roast beef. We're gonna make the roast beef
salt a Warren Sap, who does not have any skin
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in the game regarding Kaepernick. He's out of the NFL.
He's long removed from his playing days. He last took
a snap in the NFL with al righties in tw seven.
So we're fifteen years now and the Raiders were in
Oakland at that point, everyone Warren Sapp knows or knew
from the Raiders. Almost all of them are gone now
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they're no longer working for the Raiders. In all likelihood,
Sapp was a gossiping with his pals in the NFL
as a function of human nature. And so really what
was going on Here's Warren Sapp was talking to people
around the NFL, Hey, what happened with Kaeperney And they said, oh, yeah,
you wouldn't believe this guy sucked. He took a ride
in the vomit comet. He was so bad. And so
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then at that point, Warren Sapp was just repeating the leftovers.
He was reheating the leftovers that he had been told there.
And so as SAP, now, you know, as certain guys,
you say, well that guy said it, who cares? But
Warren Sapp's got the credentials, right, People love credentials. He's
got the credentials. And so when you have that reputation,
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people like to tell you, give you some insights, stuff
you curry favor with people around the NFL. So I
totally is a logical thing to think that somebody said, hey, Warren,
you're not gonna believe this, all right, and he's trying
to impress Warren steps. Oh, this guy was terrible. He
was so bad, right, man, Kaepernick sucked. He was like
he even hadn't even practiced in months. I mean, man,
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all right, now Part B of this, what do you
take away from the agent's comments Kaepernick's agents with glowing comments, Well,
parsing the words is what we often do in these parts.
There is a clear conflict of interests. There's no conflict
of interest with Warren Sap. He's not playing anymore and
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he's been gone for fifteen years, so that's not really
part of any conflict of interest. But the agent obvious
right in your face. There there is a bit of
a disagreement in terms of where he's coming from. He's
not completely biased, he's obviously the quotes were slanted as
you would expect an agent to slant the quotes an
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advocate for the player. And so this guy, Jeff Nally,
his job is to use extra helpings of a turtle wax,
and that means polishing turds is what you have to
do when you're an agent. And he claimed again that
the raider GM Dave Ziegler and the coach Josh McDaniels
said that they thought Kapp was in great shape and
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that he threw the ball well, etc. Etc. Etc. And
also said he would think this is the part that
kind of confused me. He would think that Samp would
want Kaepernick on a team. Now, we don't doubt that
the Silver and Black front office there were serving up eyewash.
They did it publicly. There were stories out from state
sponsored NFL media that indicated a positive workout for Kaepernick.
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Flattery is the flavor of the day. Could you imagine
a scenario where the Raider brass had come out and said,
my god, Kaepernick. I would have rather had had a
Pop Warner quarterback than Colin Kaepernick. He was not only
a quarterback, he was terrible. If they had said that,
what do you think the reaction would have been? It
would have been pitchforks, It would have been torches. The
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woke brigade is having none of that, None of that.
Nothing negative about Kaepernick, nothing at all. He's a false god,
He's the archangel and so instead of course it's just
niceties publicly, and so Warren Sapp when he says something
like that, You're like, oh, wait a minute, he must
know something, right because he's talking to people and people
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are telling them the real stuff. They're not sugarcoating what's
going on. And so he's like, hey, come on, what
we got here? Now? In terms of SAP having invested
interests wanting Colin Kaepernick back in the NFL, why would
he care either way? It makes no sense. It doesn't
impact his life in any way. SAP is, as we
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pointed out, long retired from the NFL. He's got no
skin in the game here and not really worried about
the political Angril Kaepernick a political figure at this point.
Now the last word here, what makes you question the
quality of the Kaepernick workout? So there's one thing here
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that no one who is on the Kaepernick side can
explain because it is a dead giveaway that something ain't
right here. Something does not pass the old smell test
or the eyeball test. What is the biggest clue? Right,
it's kind of work with me. You know where I'm
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going with this, right, The biggest clue that something did
not go well in the workout. All of these workouts
are recorded for posterity's sake. Do we agree on that
that there's always a camera on that someone is always
getting footage of these workouts. So we believe that as
the premise that these things are all recorded. Okay, so
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Kaepernick worked out on May twenty fifth. It has been
now thirty four days since we had an embargo placed
on whatever video exists, So literally and figuratively, there has
been a blackout on the video, not a sizzle reel,
no footage of Kaepernick running around in silver and black
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shorts and workout jersey, in a helmet, zippo. Things have
been sealed up tighter than a safety deposit box. It's
just there's none of it. It does not exist. The
fact that the Raiders haven't reached out to Sun and
that part is not shocking. The Raiders don't need Colin Kaepernick.
Nobody needs Colin Kaepernick with what he brings to the table.
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But this was a rattle of the cages situation, we
said at the time. We believe it even more so now.
But the Raiders, if you look at the depth chart,
they're filled to the brim at the quarterback position, and
so what were they doing. Our theory was the Raiders
were attempting to step on some toes as the spawn
of Al Davis. Mark Davis was goofing with the other
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NFL owners there because they got him with John Gruden.
But even if we're wrong on that, the Raiders depth
chart is stacked. They don't need a cabernet. But the
video has not gotten out, Not even a edited copy
of the video which is just closely put together where
you show them running around a little bit. None of that.
Nothing has gotten out. Be sure to catch live editions
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Here we are back at it again this hour and
our lead coming from the NFL. So this is a
big couple of days. Here. Get the buttered popcorn, Get
the candy ready to go Tomorrow. Tomorrow. Tomorrow is another day,
and it's also another milestone in the never ending Deshaun
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Watson saga that has fed the content machine now for
over a year on these airwaves, on this show. So,
the NFL is scheduled to hold a hearing over punishment
the adjudication process of the disgraced quarterback from the Mistake
by the Lake. He's the mistake by the Lake two
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point oh. Watson will be in front of the NFL
and the nfl PA's jointly appointed disciplinary officer. That's a
lot of bullcrap. It's what that is. That's a bureaucracy,
is what that is a lot of red tape. It's
all fallout from the twenty four lawsuits alleging inappropriate conduct.
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He was running his own petting zoo there. It was
unlicensed and something spilled, some bodily fluids apparently spilled. Watson
has paid millions. We're not sure how many millions, but
we know it's in the millions from what we're hearing
here to buy silence in twenty of the twenty four cases.
There are still four outstanding lawsuits that will be played
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out and less settled in court sometime in twenty twenty
three after the Super Bowl. Not that you have to
worry about the Browns being in the Super Bowl, and
there is the possibility of more lawsuits being filed. That's
the looming cloud, the storm cloud that is off on
the horizon. Now we had a clue as to how
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long the Watson is facing over the weekend. If you
were not engaged, if you're not paying attention out doing things,
first weekend of the summer, you're having a great time,
you might have missed it. We learned that the league
is demanding an indefinite suspension lasting at least one year.
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The Wall Street Journal tells us that the league will
not except less than a one season minimum. So you
go to the penalty box for one year, Deshaun, and
then you can come back. And so the circus will
begin on Tuesday. It'll go on maybe a day, maybe
a couple of days of the union. They are there
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to defend Deshaun Watson's petting zoom massages, and they have
his back, and you like to lay on us back
in the baby yoga pose, which is appropriate enough. So
let us discuss the question on this one. Why why
did the NFL leak this punishment to the Walls Street
Journal over the weekend. So I've got Metallica, barn door,
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and Devil's bedpost, and we will combine all of these
random things together and we are going to make some
amazing cinnamon role. I had a really good cinema roll
over the weekend, A well made cinnamon roll fresh out
of the oven. Does it get better than that? It's
one of the great things about being alive. Number why
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this was the word is strategic the NFL. The word
is strategic here. It's about the court of public opinion.
And you are a juror in the court of public obinion.
And so the NFL has has a problem. The problem
we've talked about this, We've documented in previous episodes of
the show. The NFL had contained the Deshaun Watson story
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to the sports section around a month ago. The wildfire
jumped the containment line. That's when HBO got involved in
the Gray Lady The New York Times. Once they entered
the picture, PR professionals who worked for the Shield came
in there and they're like, Okay, we got we gotta
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attempt now to let the world know that the NFL
finds this behavior by Watson ab Hornton, So what have
they done? They have decided to turn to the heavy artillery.
The NFL went Metallica Classic Fight fire with fire. That's
what they're doing at the normal megaphones like state sponsored
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NFL network that has a small reach, or Adam Schefter's
Twitter feed that reaches the meat and potatoes sports fan.
So they went to the Wall Street Journal. And the
reason they went to the Wall Street Journal is because
that is the capitalist bible that reaches the titans of
business in America and around the world, all the big players,
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all the main heavyweights who run corporations. They are among
the readers of the Wall Street Journal. They're in the
readership group. So that's the cored demo that you want
to reach on this. You don't really care about the
hoi polloi, the flotsam and jetsam, you don't care about that,
But you want to reach the people that run corporations.
And what better way to do that to say, hey,
we're gonna be tough on Watson than to go to
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the Wall Street Journal. That's the cord demo they wanted
to reach and show the NFL, hey listen, We're gonna
be tough on creepy quarterbacks. We are all right now.
Point number two, What do you make of the plan
Watson punishment as it was reported so shockingly a logical
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position by the NFL. I'm stunned. You gotta leave it
open ended. Now. Whether this actually ends up being the
case or this is all just conjecture, we're gonna find
out soon enough. But Deshaun Watson was able to flex
with his check book to help swing the pendulum more
in his favorite Regardless of that, he's certainly not out
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of the weeds in this story. And every man, woman,
and child that has paid attention knows there can be
more cases filed until the middle of March twenty twenty three.
So that leaves nine shopping months left, nine months left
with the barn door wide open. And so we know
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Deshaun liked the barn door wide open. So this is
is just a one year suspension. If it is a
one year suspension and it's just been camouflaged, there's a
longer punishment then, you know, is that going to work? Well, no,
it's not gonna work, but it certainly seems like that's
that's the angle it's like, well, we're gonna leave it
open ended. But if you if you have no more lawsuits, right,
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meaning that if the affection is contained to twenty four
with twenty buyouts and four to go, then Watson will
be back in twenty twenty three. Now the nightmare scenario.
And from what I understand the NFL, what they're really
concerned about here is that they announced the suspension and
then the next day another woman comes forward with some
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physical evidence and then they're like, ohly CANOLEI, what do
we do? All right? What are we doing now? And
Watson I only Watson realizes how many people he was
stooping or attempting to stoop at the massage part, so
he doesn't even really know how many people are out
there that could be lurking in the shadows, and so
that becomes problematic as to the NFL does not say, oh,
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it's one year suspension, and then they they're like, okay,
wait a minute, hold on, sec now there's something else.
Then they got to go back to the drawing board,
all right. Final point, So how will how will the
Shaun Watson's camp handle the punishment? Well? Appeal appeal, appeal, appeal, appeal, appeal, appeal, appeal, appeal.
They don't have a leg to stand on, which is problematic.
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Watson hasn't played since the end of the twenty twenty season.
He did not play a snap in twenty twenty one
by his own choice. He did not want to play
for the Texans. How's that working on for you? And
Watson has not been on a football field in a
game environment in a long time. And at this point
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you're attempting to cut your losses. You really have to
look at this through financial glasses. If you will protect
the compensation damage limitation is a term because under the
premise of protecting the golden goose, it's all about the
golden goose. A one year suspension will do just that,
all things considered. It would be spanking, a nice spanking
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on the bare bottom, which Watson also likes during his massages,
So that would be good and it's the signing bonus though,
that's what you got to protect now. Former Packer executive
Andrew Brandt, who has worked around the NFL for years,
he's in the media now. He's actually a professor, I
believe at Villanova and he said that what he's heart
is Watson is going to get the signing bonus even
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if he's suspended this season. Others are claiming that's not
the case, that the pause button will be used, meaning
that he'll just have to wait until twenty twenty three
to get the money, although it appears that he's already
gotten the signing bots the money's already been exchanged as
far as that's concerned. The contract also, there's one report
says that we pushed back a year, and either way
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you slice it, Watson is going to get his jackpot
unless the NFL or the Browns avoid the contract, if
that's even an option on the table, and the Cleveland
Browns would even want to go down that direction. They've
stood by this creepster for this long. Why stop now?
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But you give him the old four of Clubs better
known as the Devil's bedpost there that would be the
only punishment that would really be meaningful, because if Watson's
getting the money, and let's be honest, I'm sure you
want to play, but it's a job. You get paid
for a job. If you get paid not to work,
you're getting paid, and that's forever money. He's already got
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forever money. It's even more forever money. That's generational wealth
on top of generational wealth. With any proper investments. Assuming
the economy does not go into total recession here, you're
going to be in pretty good shape. And if DeShawn
Watson is suspended for a full season, that would mean
he will not have played an NFL game by the
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time he comes back in around a thousand days, around
a thousand days from his last time on the field,
And if it's longer than a season, he just keep
tacking on days, So then you're you're around twelve hundred
over twelve hundred days. The NFL should go two years,
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and I spend for two years, and then if he
wants to come back and play, and the Browns want
to pay a guy who hasn't played at that point
three years, and if they want to pay him all
the money, and then more power to them. They are
the Browns after the laughing stock of pro football. So
but that would really bring the hammer down, down, down, down,
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we got to the third degree. Here we go. This
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is one big ban Get squirel all right, Coop Daalu.
Appearing on NFL Network this weekend, Eli manningsaid that he
believes Daniel Jones has had a challenging situation due to
all of the coaching changes for the Giants, and he
pointed too how he had consistency early in his career
with Tom Coughlin. But how much of a factor do
you think coaching changes has played in Daniel Jones's lack
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of success? So it's not easy, but let's we can't
ignore that the reason though the Giants have made all
those coaching changes is because of Daniel Jones, So it's
it's what is it? If Daniel Jones had been good
and not a substandard player, they would have kept changing coaches.
Every coaching move was made in theory to unlock the
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hidden talents of the quarterback and saying, Danny Dimes is
a great practice player who has been guilty of negligence
in the games on a regular basis, so I don't
feel bad for him. Next, we have learned that Greg
Popovich was the one calling each of the Spurs new
draft picks, leading many to believe that he will be
back next season. Are you sick, Coop? No? Okay, you
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sound congested, Ben. How many more years do you think
pop sticks around? Uh see, he's seventy three years. I'm
gonna go one. I'm gonna go one more season. And
the way I look at this, he's he can slide
into a figurehead front office role in San Antonio. Quinn
Snyder is the latest coach in waiting, allegedly now that
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Becky Hammonds moved on to the w NBA. But you're
seventy three, how many more years can you got one?
Or two at the most? Next Shack revealed in a
recent episode of his podcast that he wants to buy
the Orlando Magic with x Magic Center Dennis Scott Ben
Do you see Shack and ownership someday? All right, so, Shack,
here's the way. The thing about Shack is he has
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owned part of a team. He was a bit owner
in the sacrament Looking so he's already owned. And by
the way, Cooper, you're not used the word owner. Draymond
Green's triggered by that. Can you say governor? You know,
just for draining racist. It's very offensive when I hear
the word owner. Oh my god. But no, no, listen, Shack.
The problem, shocks gout is a money problem. The Orlando
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Magic are worth one point six billion. Shack is worth
four hundred million. So there's a gap that has to
be close. He needs that Papa John money, that Dollar
General money to come flowing in that cream stuff that
he rubs on himself. All that he needs, all that money.
Other than that, No, he could be a figurehead, but
not the actual owner owner. How do we go? Coop
quick passes. That is a winner. Another winner, I won
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