August 23, 2022 • 32 mins
It's Fox Sports Radio's Official Fantasy Football Podcast! Dan Beyer and Mike Harmon look at picks 37-72 and highlight guys they love in that range. Dan and Mike examine how to decide between WR1's from teams with mediocre offenses vs. WR2's from strong offenses. Plus, the guys identify some sleepers you should target late in drafts!
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I dig that I know a guy. I mean you
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is very very important. We try to know who the
guys that are gonna who the guys are that are
gonna help you win your fantasy league. And in our
last episode, Mike and I bro down what we consider
the top thirty six in a fantasy draft, the guys
that if you're in a twelve team league, gonna be
your first picks in the first three rounds. We didn't
do a lot of quarterback talk that's probably gonna come
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up in this conversation because then we're gonna do right now. Really, Mike,
I would say about the next sixty picks or so
maybe the next five rounds, because this is this is
just as important to me. I believe in a draft
than even the first three rounds, because this is where
you can really make your hay. This is where you
can get a guy that maybe makes up for a
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bad first or second round pick. The next five rounds,
maybe four through nine, if you will, in a fantasy draft,
I think are actually more important than picks one, two
and three. Yeah. I think a lot of it comes
down to as you're building that second tier of your roster,
right you maybe you've drafted your running backs early, you're
still going old school. Maybe you've started to assemble your
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wide receiving corps. Now it's you're in that beautiful area
where maybe you try to push ahead on a guy
that you value higher than the consensus, someone that you're
going all in saying this offense only works if X,
and if you're right, then you're that much further ahead.
If it goes wrong, well then you just say, you
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know what, fortune favors the bold or whatever the hell
that Matt Damon line was when he was hanging out
in crypto land. Uh anymore, go figure you might not
see the name on the stadium in l A a a
much longer either. But that's a whole other conversation for
another time, the the players that you're gonna get in
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this area, and Mike and I we we referenced the
site Fantasy Pros, not because they're a sponsor, not because
that there's any ties to it, but it's really an
accumulation of all fantasy experts, uh information, right, I mean
that's kind of for years something quite well. Well sometimes, yeah,
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we finished the year strong, but certainly you have over
a hundred forty at last count. Whereas you get towards
your draft, you've got plenty of opinions to seek out. Sure,
and Mike has done very very well. And we can
take these rankings and actually put them up agut against
Mike's or compare with Mike's to tell you who Mike
likes and who doesn't like. So I'm gonna kind of
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give you a little a little background of what we've
got on a draft board and the types of names
that you're gonna see. Mike and I in the last
episode talked about guys that we love that we actually
thought should be in the top thirty six that aren't
in the top thirty six, or at least maybe borderline
this would be the final the final four players in
the top thirty six according to Fantasy Pros in an
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overall league, okay, an overall PPR league, these would be
the top of the final four of the top thirty six.
You're ready, Kyle Pitts, Josh Allen, Deante Johnson, and Travis E.
T N. That's where that's that would be the final
of the top thirty six. Now, the next group, these
are the names that you're starting to look at, and
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I'll give you I'll give you six of them. Breece Hall,
Jalen Waddle, David Montgomery, Terry McLaurin, Cam Akers, and Justin Herbert.
And the reason I just stopped there, Mike, because the
next guy was Brandon Cooks, the guy that in the
last episode I really liked in that Top thirty six.
I'm really high on Brandon Cooks. But these are the
types of names that now you're thinking about, that you're
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looking about when it comes down to rankings that you're
going to start, I don't know, deciding, especially in a
PPR league, on who you're gonna take in your fourth round. Yeah,
you're trying to figure out where that drop off is
at wide receiver. You get the muddled middle when you
you talk outside of those first seven or eight names.
How early do you take a quarterback? We'll get into
that a little bit later on in the episode, because
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you see two find their way here. My experience in
the industry leagues, which are the ones I've done thus far,
eventually with the Friends family and the Fox family, Um,
we'll see how much of that varies. The quarterbacks are
being taking early. You may see the outlier. I don't
have to take an Alan and going with the old
classic late night television Ronco said it, and forget it now.
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I don't have to ever think to bench him if
he's playing, even if he's hopping around, uh or has
one arm tied behind his back, I'm still gonna start him,
as opposed to drafting later and then getting into decisions
of good, bad or ugly. Uh. Same thing with Justin
Herbert guys diving in perhaps a little sooner, but in
most of these industry leagues not quite that case. Right,
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You got Brandon Cooks. Mike Williams is a guy right there.
We talked about DK Metcalp after watching the Seahawks get
manhandled by the ferocious Chicago Bears'll see giant bucket of
sark I was gonna say, we'll see you in the
NFC Championship game, Mike, Well, we'll see you there. Well,
you know what. We We talked about it on the
show Smith and I on Fox Sports Radio in the evening,
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wondering aloud live reaction whether the Seahawks would be in
the mix for that number one overall pick and how
calculated it all gets when it starts. Uh, they start
flying for real. As for the Bears, just give Justin
Fields some extra bubble bubble wrap. I think the plan
will be good long term. Short term man, great googly movie,
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but a couple of guys that you look at and say,
all right, they're still gonna throw some combination, right, referring
to Metcalf, some combination between Geno and Lock and a
player to be named later. Maybe Uh, they're still gonna
get to three thousand plus yards just the way the
NFL works, which means Metcalf, assuming health, is going to
end up probably above that top thirty sixfold. But that's
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where this gets interesting and where the debates get even
more fun, because equippling over whether a guy should be
QB one or two, it has its its merits, But
when we start getting into how much you like an
offense at a player's potential impact they're in in those
middle rounds is where the fun begins. There are a
couple of names that I that I jotted down in
the first one is the name that that is sexy,
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but it's also one of those that you don't know
about you hope that it's going to be great. And
that's Travis E. T N of the Jacksonville Jaguars, and
he was at that number thirty six spot. Uh that
I mentioned that he is right on the border. He
would be the last pick of a third round if
it was if it was a twelve team draft in
a standard league, he's going around fifty or that's where
he would be he would be ranked. But when you
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look at what he could do in Jacksonville just receiving
wise in number of receptions, I think he's a guy
that could finish top five in receptions for running backs,
which obviously makes him a much more better value when
you when you're talking about of PPR league. Yeah, I
start going through the overall rankings and I'll have those
available as we get get ready next week and tell
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you how to find them. Uh. And disseminate them properly
in the Twitter verse. Uh, he's a guy that could
crack that back end of the rb ones for me,
because it gets crowded back there pretty fast. And based on,
as you said, the PPR notion, which is now more
standard than standard anymore. That the value is their tremendously.
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I may be swayed by the fact that we know
people that work in and around the Jacksonville world. Uh,
and how that offense is coming together and trusting Doug Peterson,
trusting the process, expecting Trevor Lawrence to take a big
step forward. That's only gonna happen if Travis has himself
a year. If we took six and thirty seven, Travis E.
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T N and Bruce Hall, are you a heavy lean
on one or the other? Oh? I got with But
yeah that that there's a big drop right there because Hall,
I I like the explosiveness. But I think he's gonna
be a feast or fan, right. I think he's a
guy that might pop a couple of big runs or
or some big yak after a dump off from Joe
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Flacco or or Wilson when he gets back and healthy.
Notice how I want to start pushing the Joe Flacco
is elite comments here, not for fantasy purposes. People don't,
don't get me wrong, just because it's fun fodder uh
in the sportsnock radio world. But like David Montgomery is
behind Bruce Hall cam Akers, who I do still believe
that there's gonna be a little bit of load management
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mix they're in. Uh, he's right behind. I can't. I
can't get behind the Jets guy with a bad offensive
line and quarterbacks and quarterback play. And as much as
Jacksonville is an unknown, I have to believe that the
guy that has won before in Peterson will uncork some
things in an offense and be able to untangle what
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a mess it was in one where E. T n
wasn't healthy. Yes, and his skill set is different, and
I do think that the Jets do have there are
other guys as well. I mean, gosh, there was like
times you could take like five different Jets at running
back last I know they used that, you know, a
high pick on him, but still that there there could
even be competition. And there's just no guarantee that the
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second round guy is the guy and is going to
get all of the touches that you would hope, whereas
I think E. T. N because of his skill set
and what he does is going to be so valuable
to that offense. Right when J K. Dobbins right coming
off unhealthy, need to start, But wouldn't you rather have
him picks later? Grab Jalen Waddle or McLaren's if you
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want to delve into the Washington world, or Brandon Cooks
or Mike Williams. I'll take one of those guys and
then come back and grab JK. Dobbins on the next round. Yeah. Yeah,
there there's another name that's even further down the list
that I actually love. And I'm curious about your names.
But since we're talking about names and running backs, I
love A. J. Dillon this year absolutely. And he was
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sitting there at RB three ranking of fifty four in
a PPR league. And you may say it's just gonna
be just gonna be a power back. He's you know,
touchdown dependent, and that's it's not that's that's not true.
He's gonna get a lot of touchdowns. He's just gonna
get a lot of yards, and he's gonna get receptions.
And this guy could get thirty plus receptions and he's
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now seventeen spots below a guy like Bruce Hall. I
just I don't know how you could undraft day not
take a J Dillon over Bruce All. He went our
B nineteen in a draft that I recently uh finished
with and that was in the fourth round, middle of
the that round, standard twelve team league, and went ahead
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of Montgomery, went ahead of Jacobs, went ahead of Acres,
Elijah Mitchell, all of those guys along the way, And
I you know, you do that comparison, you're looking at
the other backs coming off two three rounds later. Now
there were a couple of gambles that we're kind of
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eye raising in the process as well. But that's what
you're doing, is speculating in the best ball scenario that
it begins. But just the curiosity of why he's dipped
in terms of that average, the lack of faith in
Aaron Rodgers to get this offense moving and for those
dual back to to get their hey is really confusing
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to me. Who else do loving this this sixty pick
range that we're talking about here, thirty six to ninety
six names that pop out on your on the list
that are are guys that you're gonna want to take
on draft days or maybe bit a little bit more
if you're in any Yeah, I think I'm a little
higher on and and I know he's made comments to
the fact of hey, they want Williams to be the guy,
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but I'm looking at Melvin Gordon as RB thirty six. Overall,
I still think he has a role in this. And
I don't disagree that Javonte is going to get the push,
but I don't think he does it alone, especially if
they're trying to upset the Apple cart in the a
f C West with Russell Wilson under center. And as
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much as you may like some of those wide receiving
targets still guys coming off injuries or still with some
unknowns there, I think he's a guy that could outperform.
Tony Pollard is just one of those man crush guys.
Like if we go on the larger, larger scale, because
we talk a lot about Ezekiel Elliott and yes he's
in the best shape of his life or whatever. Why
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people try to tell you, uh, in training camp, but
Tony Pollard lining up. They need him in the slot
at least to start. So from a PPR perspective, you're
gonna get value from him immediately. Not to mention Zeke
is going to need rest and may miss time based
on where he's at in his career. So Tony Pollard
overall is a pick for me. Brian Robinson of Washington
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r B fifty six, that's try. We're going to RB
fifty six, uh, And I put him on the board
speed power and the fact that as of right now,
Antonio Gibson is not able to hang onto the football,
which is where he ends up in the hate pile here.
Uh in a minute, and then going back to Jacksonville
w R forty, Christian Kirk, everybody says such glowing things,
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Trevor Lawrence could be a sleeper. Well, who's catching the
ball one of those guys beyond right? Right? But but
out of the wide receiving course, someone has to crack
the top thirty six for the prediction of Trevor Lawrence
to be a breakthrough quarterback to work unless every one
of his receivers is gonna end up with seven hundred
fifty yards. It just dates. So so Christian Kirk, they
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paid him the money. Everybody got mad about that. I
think he's a nice little uh. Security blanket that piles
up receptions. And remember all the he didn't even have
a thousand yards season. He had two people he had.
The The funny thing about all of this is I
wanted names like in this, in this round of sixty,
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and we're giving your names. But what ends up happening
is there are the names that pop up that you
don't want. And you mentioned Antonio Gibson and you're talking
about a rating right now that's mid fifty Abie fifty
seven was where he's listed in this Fantasy pros ranking RB.
We talked about the guys that you would rather have
over Bruce Hall, I mean, talk about the names that
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you would rather have over Antonio Gibson right now. I mean,
like I know, like we downgrade guys, and to your
point of him not holding the football, you're not gonna
drop a guy eight spots, but we could go twenty
or thirty spots down the down the rankings of an
overall ranking of guys that I would rather play than
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Antonio Gibson in the flex position right now, just because
of everything that that you talked about. And it may
not mean that Brian Robinson is getting everything that Antonio
Gibson isn't. It's just now there's so many question marks
about Antonio Gibson that there's there's no way that I
would be taking him at any point in say a
fifth round or a sixth round. There I would. I would,
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just I would. I would rather take the take the
risk on a guy like Chase Edmunds, who I actually
really like in Miami, in that opportunity, Uh, Miles are
run with Miles sanders Um over Antonio Gibson. And that's
a scary proposition considering how the Eagles backfield shaped out
last year, But I would rather go that route. Those
are some of the names. Then there's Tony Pollard. Then
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there's Damien Harris. He's probably not gonna catch a lot
of passes, but still I'd rather have him. Then the
the possibility that Antonio Gibson isn't down the field as much.
So that's a cautionary tale with Antonio Gibson. Well, you
saw in New England one of the guys that was
one of the fears that you'd lose touches to you
had a retirement, right veteran dips out. Harris has all
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the goal line work unless suddenly he starts fumbling the ball.
Belichick is not gonna suddenly turn away from that, nor
do they, to my thinking, turn away philosophically. You'll see
some of Stevenson, no question about it. So it's not
a certainly a workhorse and and bell cow situation, but
the opportunity presents itself, go a little deeper, go to
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Seattle if if our guy Penny stays healthy. Right, we
talked about the seven games he had at the end
of last year. He's healthy. You're telling me he's not
worth waiting two rounds instead of taking Gibson and wish
wanting Yes, yeah, correct, Yeah, you're exactly how Kareem Hunt
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even even with a quarterback situation in flux for the
first eleven weeks, and Jacoby percent tell me personnel wise
that they don't stack up enough to where he's putting
up numbers equal or better that I wanted to do
a whole Cleveland segment. That's all right. There there's the
other part of Antonio Gibson, who really popped two years
ago before he got hurt, uh, you know, like two
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thirds into the season. But there's also there was always
the conversation, oh, he's making the transition, you know, into
the running back position. And now if you're Washington, it's
not a how long do you wait? Because he's he's
proven that he can run the football and be there.
It's just all right, how long is this going to last?
And that's another question that I have, I think with
Shad Penny, how long is he gonna last, especially a
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revamped offensive line and how that's gonna work. But still, yeah,
I just wouldn't when you see that downward trending arrow,
like it should be a free fall arrow. I think
right now with Antonio Gibson, Yeah, just to circle back
Christian Kurk good based on where we're going and get
the nine six overall he is currently ranke. Well, this
this is a good transition point because Christian Kirk should
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be you know, w R one. As you said to
Trevor Lawrence. When you're in this spot here and you're
picking in these middle rounds and you're seeing certain names
of guys who are maybe WR ones for their teams,
are you how do you decipher do I take wide
receiver one on this team or do I take wide
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receiver two from this team because they have maybe a
little bit more passing attack. Is it's totally completely quarterback related?
Is it crappy team related? Is a good team related?
How do you decipher in looking at guys of saying
I'd rather have the number two options on that team
than have the number one option on on this team?
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Offensive philosophy quarterback, that's showing showing you a bit of
proof when you look at completion percentage and the willingness
to distruc to beat the football, so you can you
can find value in that number two guy. Uh? Right now,
in the top twenty four wide receivers, Unless I'm missing something,
there are four teams that have two guys Miami, the Chargers,
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the Rams, and the Bangals all with two representatives in
the first receivers off the board. There are guys that
are curiosities. Right when you get into Almari Cooper and
Rashad Bateman. We have no idea what he is. I
have no idea what that offense is gonna look like
last year. Anybody trying to make grand assessments on two
based on the Baltimore Ravens is kidding themselves right, just
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personnel wise, Hey didn't you play? Yeah? That was all
the way back in twenty it's good to be back,
especially at the running back position and certainly uh switching
out in the wide outs. But you know, a'man ras
st Brown ninety catches a year ago. Everybody's he might
get hyped up a little bit because of hard knock.
So in fandom leagues, uh, you know, you may see
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a little bit of a juice there, but also have
to rely on Jared goff Lamar Jackson loved the player,
but does he find Bateman as his number one, which
is why he's ranked you know, around about thirty among
wide receivers. Cooper down there because you've got Jacoby Percett
under center and as expecting the heavy run games. So
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I think play calling and his best you can assess
how how good the team is to will they have
full throttle? Yeah, I I look at I look at
a couple of names that that are that are popping
up higher than than I would um, than I would
love um. You know. Deonte Johnson's a guy that we
talked about previously. Michael Thomas is sitting there at fifty nine,
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and it's not as much about Michael Thomas, even though
he's coming back from that injury. It's also about what
Jamis Winston is. And when I see Gabriel Davis sitting
there at seventy nine, I know the previous two years
don't show it, but maybe I'm a f C Divisional
playoff game tainted from that, but I would have to
think that that would be an opportunity as well. So
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if you're looking for value, maybe you don't want to
reach on Gabriel Davis, but if he's hanging around in
that area, that would be a guy that you would
I would rather have over then the question marks of
the number one, of the Marii Cooper, maybe even of
Michael Thomas, considering some of the questions that are happening
in New Orleans. Well, with Michael Thomas coming back, you
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have questions on Winston, and I guess Ian Book would
be the next man up. But you have Landry, you
have Chris A. LaVey, and you have the return of
Alvin Kamara. That's a lot of feeding to do and
hopefully for Jamis. You know, we we all root for guys,
you know, to to find their best if they've you know, again,
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owing to the bigger conversation that's happening in the NFL,
where you've had your situations and and paid your dues
and and tried to get back and write and do
good things that you want to see it play out
as best it can. But Gabriel Davis, remember no Cole
Beasley there anymore. So there's suddenly a bunch of targets
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that become available to be spread out in Davis in
year three, I would expect to have himself a bigger role.
You've got Davonte Smith. If everybody's gonna believe in Jalen
Hurts and the Eagles offense taking their next step again,
it raises up to the potential of another guy that
finds his way with with a opposite a j. Brown,
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to put up some big numbers. We are going to
get to our sleepers, maybe some late ron flyers. But
I do want to touch on quarterbacks. By the way,
you can get Mike on Twitter at Swellendome. You can
find me on Twitter at Dan Buyer on Fox. Send
us any tweets, any question scenarios that you may have.
Would love to love to help you out. When you
look at the quarterback position, because we talked about Josh Allen,
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Justin Herbert now in that area, how many quarterbacks do
you look at that are that are in the NFL
right now that you would feel comfortable starting like, what
is what is your cut off? I asked you about
the first round? I I wrote that I think it's
actually I think it's actually at twelve, I do not
have Trey Lance in that conversation, right He's what QB
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ten eleven right now? Yeah, And the overall consensus, which
I think is people just trying to reach for some
breakthrough guy that is in the same old name. Yes, correct,
I I I think that there is this how do
I how do I put it? I think the forty
Niners will continue to try to be the forty Niners,
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and I don't think that they are going to be
riding on the shoulders of Trey Lance because they have
too many other good players around them and so this
isn't gonna be a Philadelphia Eagles. Jalen Hurts gets all
of the stats scenario. I think if Tray Lance isn't
as far along as he is, the forty Niners will
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take some of that off of his plate and rely
on Elijah Mitchell, Deebo, Samuel Brandon, George Kittle and those
guys that That's how I view it in San Francisco,
so I am not I'm not on the tray Lance
train to be automatic starter week one. No, I would agree,
And I think when we look at overall rankings, and
I think people are also just saying, all right, at
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the end of the season, it's gonna be here. Well,
if you believe the training camp reports, it's a very
uneven world, and you would expect that guy has played
a lot of football. So even with the the growth
of a UK alongside Deebo, Samuel and Kittle, for as
long as he's healthy, there's gonna be opportunities. So I
think if you're just ranking saying all right, I could
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see him getting there. But I think it's gonna be
a very long and winding road to get to do
your numbers, as opposed to again not having to worry
week to week of who my quarterback is. I could
say fourteen fifteen guys and one of those is the
giant question mark of what's Matt Stafford's elbow really like?
Once he gets into the fire, it has to start
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making throws because you know, they can sell me all
they want during training camp of look how accurate he
is and come off the field, I look pretty good
on that throat, and I ha ha, that's all finding good.
I'm still, you know, peering that with a seventeen game
regular season, that there's a little bit of manipulation there
because the goal is back to back Super Bowls. By
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the way, they sent out a thing to season ticket
holders which was really cool, a little miniature ring replica
ring and a miniature Lombardi trophy, which I thought were
pretty cool. The Curtency and those in my timeline right
before we sat down to recording. But I guess it
stops with me as cousins, and then the tweener guy
is Derek Carr. I think that there's a huge drop
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off after Derek Carr. Yeah right, I mean then you
start getting into Lawrence and and how much you love too.
I think two is gonna be a guy up and down.
I'll just tell you. For the league I just finished
at QB ten, I drafted Aaron Rodgers, which is three
spots higher than industry average, which is a little confusing
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to me. I still it's it's like my belief in
Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs. They've done it before,
they'll figure it out. It may take some time to
figure it out. I did make a bet about four
rounds later, as the backup started flying off, that Baker
Mayfield would be the guy, So I drafted him as
QB eighteen, which is much higher than industry consensus these rankings. Yes,
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but also one of the things that you're considering is
you're drafting a league, is that I wasn't gonna draft
a guy that had the same bye week as Rogers,
And by time I was looking for a backup, three
of the next options all had the same bye weeks.
So just a weird convergence of things there. But also, look,
if d J. Moore and Christian mccafpriy that everybody loves
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so much, a're gonna do something, quarterbacks gotta be useless, useful,
And I wasn't buying for a minute that they were
going to leave things in the hands of Sam Donald. Again,
Let's leave you with some names that that you love,
that you that you don't like, maybe some late round liars.
I jotted down a couple. But if you're if you're
later on in the rounds, if you're past this part,
are there any are there any training camp heroes that
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you're looking to grab names that you love. A couple
of guys that maybe you don't like so much. Well,
i'll go with the love. We're gonna be positive today,
we'll go. We'll come back with full hate. The kids
will be in school in other weeks, so they'll be
grousing about schedules or something by that. Uh. Sky more
there in Kansas City out of western Michigan, again owing
to the offense and not having a decided um set
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pecking order beyond Travis Kelsey. A guy that could emerge.
Uh if you we know people that work around the Chargers.
If I hear the name Isaiah Spiller one more time,
I might have to start a drinking game, although I
wouldn't be able to go on air. Most likely being
drafted RBT a guy that has shown quite brightly in
camp a little bit in the preseason opener. Uh. And
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then a couple of tight ends, why because we we
neglect them oftentimes in our conversations. How about Albert Oh
yes Okawa by him if I hopefully I didn't dishonor
his heritage, but they're in Denver. And then yeah, I
missed a syllable there, bad job by me because I
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actually watched a primer video and practiced and everything. But
then you start talking about UH failures UH and and
guys you don't like, and you know, it just goes
out the window. David and Joku UH tight end twenty
guy that got paid a lot of money. And certainly
for the first eleven weeks, Jacoby bur said, I would
I would see him probably as a pretty good UH
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safety valve option. But then the final weeks, as you're
getting towards the playoffs, you may not like the return UH.
And maybe it'll be on even UH with Deshaun Watson
back under center. But I think there's some some value
to be had there at the tight end position. You
mentioned Brian Robinson earlier Washington. Maybe he takes over that
that spot for Antonio Gibson. Name that you love and
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and I wrote down as well, I'll give you three
other names. Actually make it four. I actually like Marcus
Mariota in Atlanta. I'm not saying he's gonna be a starter,
but if you're in a two quarterback league, if he
was your second quarterback, I would be very very happy
with Marcus Mariotta. I think that he works with Arthur Smith.
I like DeVante Parker in New England. Uh, we expect
Mac Jones to take that next step. Bill Belichick's very
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happy about it. Davante Parker has skills. I think he
just got lost in Miami and it wasn't his fault.
It was more of what was going on with the
quarterback position. So I like DeVante Parker in New England
as a possibility. And then two young names, Um, Bruce
Pickens in Pittsburgh I think is a trendy one afterward
where Georgia I'm sorry, Bruce Pickens. That's in the early
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nineteen nineties. Uh, George Pickens of the Pittsburgh Steelers. The
Uh there's a lot of hype about from what he
did in that game and a great catch again against Seattle.
So I like George Pickens there. Isaiah potteco of Kansas
City if I'm even pronouncing that correctly. Uh. With Edwards Hilaire,
you know me and c E H we are now
on bad terms. Could be a name to pop up.
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The other guy like Mike in Houston, is Damian Pierce.
Because Lovey Smith said that he popped on film. He
was a guy that you noticed. I love Marlon mack
in Houston. You know I love Mac, but if Pierce
continues to get this run in the preseason, he could
be a late round fill out roster name that you
may want to end up drafting. Oh. I like that
a lot because Lovey Smith. We do know he loves
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to go to the ground game. Marlon Max a guy
did draft in the league that I've referenced here with
my Aaron Rodgers UH selection. He was my sixter fifth
running back in this particular league and knowing that Pierce
could eclipse him in short order. Might be a month
before Pierce takes the role fully, but Houston may surprise.
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really vex people. We're gonna end up doing all I
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is very very important. We try to know who the
guys that are gonna who the guys are that are
gonna help you win your fantasy league. And in our
last episode, Mike and I bro down what we consider
the top thirty six in a fantasy draft, the guys
that if you're in a twelve team league, gonna be
your first picks in the first three rounds. We didn't
do a lot of quarterback talk that's probably gonna come
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up in this conversation because then we're gonna do right now. Really, Mike,
I would say about the next sixty picks or so
maybe the next five rounds, because this is this is
just as important to me. I believe in a draft
than even the first three rounds, because this is where
you can really make your hay. This is where you
can get a guy that maybe makes up for a
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bad first or second round pick. The next five rounds,
maybe four through nine, if you will, in a fantasy draft,
I think are actually more important than picks one, two
and three. Yeah. I think a lot of it comes
down to as you're building that second tier of your roster,
right you maybe you've drafted your running backs early, you're
still going old school. Maybe you've started to assemble your
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wide receiving corps. Now it's you're in that beautiful area
where maybe you try to push ahead on a guy
that you value higher than the consensus, someone that you're
going all in saying this offense only works if X,
and if you're right, then you're that much further ahead.
If it goes wrong, well then you just say, you
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know what, fortune favors the bold or whatever the hell
that Matt Damon line was when he was hanging out
in crypto land. Uh anymore, go figure you might not
see the name on the stadium in l A a a
much longer either. But that's a whole other conversation for
another time, the the players that you're gonna get in
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this area, and Mike and I we we referenced the
site Fantasy Pros, not because they're a sponsor, not because
that there's any ties to it, but it's really an
accumulation of all fantasy experts, uh information, right, I mean
that's kind of for years something quite well. Well sometimes, yeah,
(03:57):
we finished the year strong, but certainly you have over
a hundred forty at last count. Whereas you get towards
your draft, you've got plenty of opinions to seek out. Sure,
and Mike has done very very well. And we can
take these rankings and actually put them up agut against
Mike's or compare with Mike's to tell you who Mike
likes and who doesn't like. So I'm gonna kind of
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give you a little a little background of what we've
got on a draft board and the types of names
that you're gonna see. Mike and I in the last
episode talked about guys that we love that we actually
thought should be in the top thirty six that aren't
in the top thirty six, or at least maybe borderline
this would be the final the final four players in
the top thirty six according to Fantasy Pros in an
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overall league, okay, an overall PPR league, these would be
the top of the final four of the top thirty six.
You're ready, Kyle Pitts, Josh Allen, Deante Johnson, and Travis E.
T N. That's where that's that would be the final
of the top thirty six. Now, the next group, these
are the names that you're starting to look at, and
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I'll give you I'll give you six of them. Breece Hall,
Jalen Waddle, David Montgomery, Terry McLaurin, Cam Akers, and Justin Herbert.
And the reason I just stopped there, Mike, because the
next guy was Brandon Cooks, the guy that in the
last episode I really liked in that Top thirty six.
I'm really high on Brandon Cooks. But these are the
types of names that now you're thinking about, that you're
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looking about when it comes down to rankings that you're
going to start, I don't know, deciding, especially in a
PPR league, on who you're gonna take in your fourth round. Yeah,
you're trying to figure out where that drop off is
at wide receiver. You get the muddled middle when you
you talk outside of those first seven or eight names.
How early do you take a quarterback? We'll get into
that a little bit later on in the episode, because
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you see two find their way here. My experience in
the industry leagues, which are the ones I've done thus far,
eventually with the Friends family and the Fox family, Um,
we'll see how much of that varies. The quarterbacks are
being taking early. You may see the outlier. I don't
have to take an Alan and going with the old
classic late night television Ronco said it, and forget it now.
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I don't have to ever think to bench him if
he's playing, even if he's hopping around, uh or has
one arm tied behind his back, I'm still gonna start him,
as opposed to drafting later and then getting into decisions
of good, bad or ugly. Uh. Same thing with Justin
Herbert guys diving in perhaps a little sooner, but in
most of these industry leagues not quite that case. Right,
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You got Brandon Cooks. Mike Williams is a guy right there.
We talked about DK Metcalp after watching the Seahawks get
manhandled by the ferocious Chicago Bears'll see giant bucket of
sark I was gonna say, we'll see you in the
NFC Championship game, Mike, Well, we'll see you there. Well,
you know what. We We talked about it on the
show Smith and I on Fox Sports Radio in the evening,
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wondering aloud live reaction whether the Seahawks would be in
the mix for that number one overall pick and how
calculated it all gets when it starts. Uh, they start
flying for real. As for the Bears, just give Justin
Fields some extra bubble bubble wrap. I think the plan
will be good long term. Short term man, great googly movie,
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but a couple of guys that you look at and say,
all right, they're still gonna throw some combination, right, referring
to Metcalf, some combination between Geno and Lock and a
player to be named later. Maybe Uh, they're still gonna
get to three thousand plus yards just the way the
NFL works, which means Metcalf, assuming health, is going to
end up probably above that top thirty sixfold. But that's
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where this gets interesting and where the debates get even
more fun, because equippling over whether a guy should be
QB one or two, it has its its merits, But
when we start getting into how much you like an
offense at a player's potential impact they're in in those
middle rounds is where the fun begins. There are a
couple of names that I that I jotted down in
the first one is the name that that is sexy,
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but it's also one of those that you don't know
about you hope that it's going to be great. And
that's Travis E. T N of the Jacksonville Jaguars, and
he was at that number thirty six spot. Uh that
I mentioned that he is right on the border. He
would be the last pick of a third round if
it was if it was a twelve team draft in
a standard league, he's going around fifty or that's where
he would be he would be ranked. But when you
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look at what he could do in Jacksonville just receiving
wise in number of receptions, I think he's a guy
that could finish top five in receptions for running backs,
which obviously makes him a much more better value when
you when you're talking about of PPR league. Yeah, I
start going through the overall rankings and I'll have those
available as we get get ready next week and tell
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you how to find them. Uh. And disseminate them properly
in the Twitter verse. Uh, he's a guy that could
crack that back end of the rb ones for me,
because it gets crowded back there pretty fast. And based on,
as you said, the PPR notion, which is now more
standard than standard anymore. That the value is their tremendously.
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I may be swayed by the fact that we know
people that work in and around the Jacksonville world. Uh,
and how that offense is coming together and trusting Doug Peterson,
trusting the process, expecting Trevor Lawrence to take a big
step forward. That's only gonna happen if Travis has himself
a year. If we took six and thirty seven, Travis E.
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T N and Bruce Hall, are you a heavy lean
on one or the other? Oh? I got with But
yeah that that there's a big drop right there because Hall,
I I like the explosiveness. But I think he's gonna
be a feast or fan, right. I think he's a
guy that might pop a couple of big runs or
or some big yak after a dump off from Joe
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Flacco or or Wilson when he gets back and healthy.
Notice how I want to start pushing the Joe Flacco
is elite comments here, not for fantasy purposes. People don't,
don't get me wrong, just because it's fun fodder uh
in the sportsnock radio world. But like David Montgomery is
behind Bruce Hall cam Akers, who I do still believe
that there's gonna be a little bit of load management
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mix they're in. Uh, he's right behind. I can't. I
can't get behind the Jets guy with a bad offensive
line and quarterbacks and quarterback play. And as much as
Jacksonville is an unknown, I have to believe that the
guy that has won before in Peterson will uncork some
things in an offense and be able to untangle what
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a mess it was in one where E. T n
wasn't healthy. Yes, and his skill set is different, and
I do think that the Jets do have there are
other guys as well. I mean, gosh, there was like
times you could take like five different Jets at running
back last I know they used that, you know, a
high pick on him, but still that there there could
even be competition. And there's just no guarantee that the
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second round guy is the guy and is going to
get all of the touches that you would hope, whereas
I think E. T. N because of his skill set
and what he does is going to be so valuable
to that offense. Right when J K. Dobbins right coming
off unhealthy, need to start, But wouldn't you rather have
him picks later? Grab Jalen Waddle or McLaren's if you
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want to delve into the Washington world, or Brandon Cooks
or Mike Williams. I'll take one of those guys and
then come back and grab JK. Dobbins on the next round. Yeah. Yeah,
there there's another name that's even further down the list
that I actually love. And I'm curious about your names.
But since we're talking about names and running backs, I
love A. J. Dillon this year absolutely. And he was
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sitting there at RB three ranking of fifty four in
a PPR league. And you may say it's just gonna
be just gonna be a power back. He's you know,
touchdown dependent, and that's it's not that's that's not true.
He's gonna get a lot of touchdowns. He's just gonna
get a lot of yards, and he's gonna get receptions.
And this guy could get thirty plus receptions and he's
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now seventeen spots below a guy like Bruce Hall. I
just I don't know how you could undraft day not
take a J Dillon over Bruce All. He went our
B nineteen in a draft that I recently uh finished
with and that was in the fourth round, middle of
the that round, standard twelve team league, and went ahead
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of Montgomery, went ahead of Jacobs, went ahead of Acres,
Elijah Mitchell, all of those guys along the way, And
I you know, you do that comparison, you're looking at
the other backs coming off two three rounds later. Now
there were a couple of gambles that we're kind of
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eye raising in the process as well. But that's what
you're doing, is speculating in the best ball scenario that
it begins. But just the curiosity of why he's dipped
in terms of that average, the lack of faith in
Aaron Rodgers to get this offense moving and for those
dual back to to get their hey is really confusing
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to me. Who else do loving this this sixty pick
range that we're talking about here, thirty six to ninety
six names that pop out on your on the list
that are are guys that you're gonna want to take
on draft days or maybe bit a little bit more
if you're in any Yeah, I think I'm a little
higher on and and I know he's made comments to
the fact of hey, they want Williams to be the guy,
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but I'm looking at Melvin Gordon as RB thirty six. Overall,
I still think he has a role in this. And
I don't disagree that Javonte is going to get the push,
but I don't think he does it alone, especially if
they're trying to upset the Apple cart in the a
f C West with Russell Wilson under center. And as
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much as you may like some of those wide receiving
targets still guys coming off injuries or still with some
unknowns there, I think he's a guy that could outperform.
Tony Pollard is just one of those man crush guys.
Like if we go on the larger, larger scale, because
we talk a lot about Ezekiel Elliott and yes he's
in the best shape of his life or whatever. Why
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people try to tell you, uh, in training camp, but
Tony Pollard lining up. They need him in the slot
at least to start. So from a PPR perspective, you're
gonna get value from him immediately. Not to mention Zeke
is going to need rest and may miss time based
on where he's at in his career. So Tony Pollard
overall is a pick for me. Brian Robinson of Washington
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r B fifty six, that's try. We're going to RB
fifty six, uh, And I put him on the board
speed power and the fact that as of right now,
Antonio Gibson is not able to hang onto the football,
which is where he ends up in the hate pile here.
Uh in a minute, and then going back to Jacksonville
w R forty, Christian Kirk, everybody says such glowing things,
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Trevor Lawrence could be a sleeper. Well, who's catching the
ball one of those guys beyond right? Right? But but
out of the wide receiving course, someone has to crack
the top thirty six for the prediction of Trevor Lawrence
to be a breakthrough quarterback to work unless every one
of his receivers is gonna end up with seven hundred
fifty yards. It just dates. So so Christian Kirk, they
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paid him the money. Everybody got mad about that. I
think he's a nice little uh. Security blanket that piles
up receptions. And remember all the he didn't even have
a thousand yards season. He had two people he had.
The The funny thing about all of this is I
wanted names like in this, in this round of sixty,
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and we're giving your names. But what ends up happening
is there are the names that pop up that you
don't want. And you mentioned Antonio Gibson and you're talking
about a rating right now that's mid fifty Abie fifty
seven was where he's listed in this Fantasy pros ranking RB.
We talked about the guys that you would rather have
over Bruce Hall, I mean, talk about the names that
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you would rather have over Antonio Gibson right now. I mean,
like I know, like we downgrade guys, and to your
point of him not holding the football, you're not gonna
drop a guy eight spots, but we could go twenty
or thirty spots down the down the rankings of an
overall ranking of guys that I would rather play than
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Antonio Gibson in the flex position right now, just because
of everything that that you talked about. And it may
not mean that Brian Robinson is getting everything that Antonio
Gibson isn't. It's just now there's so many question marks
about Antonio Gibson that there's there's no way that I
would be taking him at any point in say a
fifth round or a sixth round. There I would. I would,
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just I would. I would rather take the take the
risk on a guy like Chase Edmunds, who I actually
really like in Miami, in that opportunity, Uh, Miles are
run with Miles sanders Um over Antonio Gibson. And that's
a scary proposition considering how the Eagles backfield shaped out
last year, But I would rather go that route. Those
are some of the names. Then there's Tony Pollard. Then
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there's Damien Harris. He's probably not gonna catch a lot
of passes, but still I'd rather have him. Then the
the possibility that Antonio Gibson isn't down the field as much.
So that's a cautionary tale with Antonio Gibson. Well, you
saw in New England one of the guys that was
one of the fears that you'd lose touches to you
had a retirement, right veteran dips out. Harris has all
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the goal line work unless suddenly he starts fumbling the ball.
Belichick is not gonna suddenly turn away from that, nor
do they, to my thinking, turn away philosophically. You'll see
some of Stevenson, no question about it. So it's not
a certainly a workhorse and and bell cow situation, but
the opportunity presents itself, go a little deeper, go to
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Seattle if if our guy Penny stays healthy. Right, we
talked about the seven games he had at the end
of last year. He's healthy. You're telling me he's not
worth waiting two rounds instead of taking Gibson and wish
wanting Yes, yeah, correct, Yeah, you're exactly how Kareem Hunt
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even even with a quarterback situation in flux for the
first eleven weeks, and Jacoby percent tell me personnel wise
that they don't stack up enough to where he's putting
up numbers equal or better that I wanted to do
a whole Cleveland segment. That's all right. There there's the
other part of Antonio Gibson, who really popped two years
ago before he got hurt, uh, you know, like two
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thirds into the season. But there's also there was always
the conversation, oh, he's making the transition, you know, into
the running back position. And now if you're Washington, it's
not a how long do you wait? Because he's he's
proven that he can run the football and be there.
It's just all right, how long is this going to last?
And that's another question that I have, I think with
Shad Penny, how long is he gonna last, especially a
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revamped offensive line and how that's gonna work. But still, yeah,
I just wouldn't when you see that downward trending arrow,
like it should be a free fall arrow. I think
right now with Antonio Gibson, Yeah, just to circle back
Christian Kurk good based on where we're going and get
the nine six overall he is currently ranke. Well, this
this is a good transition point because Christian Kirk should
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be you know, w R one. As you said to
Trevor Lawrence. When you're in this spot here and you're
picking in these middle rounds and you're seeing certain names
of guys who are maybe WR ones for their teams,
are you how do you decipher do I take wide
receiver one on this team or do I take wide
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receiver two from this team because they have maybe a
little bit more passing attack. Is it's totally completely quarterback related?
Is it crappy team related? Is a good team related?
How do you decipher in looking at guys of saying
I'd rather have the number two options on that team
than have the number one option on on this team?
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Offensive philosophy quarterback, that's showing showing you a bit of
proof when you look at completion percentage and the willingness
to distruc to beat the football, so you can you
can find value in that number two guy. Uh? Right now,
in the top twenty four wide receivers, Unless I'm missing something,
there are four teams that have two guys Miami, the Chargers,
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the Rams, and the Bangals all with two representatives in
the first receivers off the board. There are guys that
are curiosities. Right when you get into Almari Cooper and
Rashad Bateman. We have no idea what he is. I
have no idea what that offense is gonna look like
last year. Anybody trying to make grand assessments on two
based on the Baltimore Ravens is kidding themselves right, just
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personnel wise, Hey didn't you play? Yeah? That was all
the way back in twenty it's good to be back,
especially at the running back position and certainly uh switching
out in the wide outs. But you know, a'man ras
st Brown ninety catches a year ago. Everybody's he might
get hyped up a little bit because of hard knock.
So in fandom leagues, uh, you know, you may see
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a little bit of a juice there, but also have
to rely on Jared goff Lamar Jackson loved the player,
but does he find Bateman as his number one, which
is why he's ranked you know, around about thirty among
wide receivers. Cooper down there because you've got Jacoby Percett
under center and as expecting the heavy run games. So
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I think play calling and his best you can assess
how how good the team is to will they have
full throttle? Yeah, I I look at I look at
a couple of names that that are that are popping
up higher than than I would um, than I would
love um. You know. Deonte Johnson's a guy that we
talked about previously. Michael Thomas is sitting there at fifty nine,
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and it's not as much about Michael Thomas, even though
he's coming back from that injury. It's also about what
Jamis Winston is. And when I see Gabriel Davis sitting
there at seventy nine, I know the previous two years
don't show it, but maybe I'm a f C Divisional
playoff game tainted from that, but I would have to
think that that would be an opportunity as well. So
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if you're looking for value, maybe you don't want to
reach on Gabriel Davis, but if he's hanging around in
that area, that would be a guy that you would
I would rather have over then the question marks of
the number one, of the Marii Cooper, maybe even of
Michael Thomas, considering some of the questions that are happening
in New Orleans. Well, with Michael Thomas coming back, you
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have questions on Winston, and I guess Ian Book would
be the next man up. But you have Landry, you
have Chris A. LaVey, and you have the return of
Alvin Kamara. That's a lot of feeding to do and
hopefully for Jamis. You know, we we all root for guys,
you know, to to find their best if they've you know, again,
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owing to the bigger conversation that's happening in the NFL,
where you've had your situations and and paid your dues
and and tried to get back and write and do
good things that you want to see it play out
as best it can. But Gabriel Davis, remember no Cole
Beasley there anymore. So there's suddenly a bunch of targets
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that become available to be spread out in Davis in
year three, I would expect to have himself a bigger role.
You've got Davonte Smith. If everybody's gonna believe in Jalen
Hurts and the Eagles offense taking their next step again,
it raises up to the potential of another guy that
finds his way with with a opposite a j. Brown,
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to put up some big numbers. We are going to
get to our sleepers, maybe some late ron flyers. But
I do want to touch on quarterbacks. By the way,
you can get Mike on Twitter at Swellendome. You can
find me on Twitter at Dan Buyer on Fox. Send
us any tweets, any question scenarios that you may have.
Would love to love to help you out. When you
look at the quarterback position, because we talked about Josh Allen,
(23:47):
Justin Herbert now in that area, how many quarterbacks do
you look at that are that are in the NFL
right now that you would feel comfortable starting like, what
is what is your cut off? I asked you about
the first round? I I wrote that I think it's
actually I think it's actually at twelve, I do not
have Trey Lance in that conversation, right He's what QB
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ten eleven right now? Yeah, And the overall consensus, which
I think is people just trying to reach for some
breakthrough guy that is in the same old name. Yes, correct,
I I I think that there is this how do
I how do I put it? I think the forty
Niners will continue to try to be the forty Niners,
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and I don't think that they are going to be
riding on the shoulders of Trey Lance because they have
too many other good players around them and so this
isn't gonna be a Philadelphia Eagles. Jalen Hurts gets all
of the stats scenario. I think if Tray Lance isn't
as far along as he is, the forty Niners will
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take some of that off of his plate and rely
on Elijah Mitchell, Deebo, Samuel Brandon, George Kittle and those
guys that That's how I view it in San Francisco,
so I am not I'm not on the tray Lance
train to be automatic starter week one. No, I would agree,
And I think when we look at overall rankings, and
I think people are also just saying, all right, at
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the end of the season, it's gonna be here. Well,
if you believe the training camp reports, it's a very
uneven world, and you would expect that guy has played
a lot of football. So even with the the growth
of a UK alongside Deebo, Samuel and Kittle, for as
long as he's healthy, there's gonna be opportunities. So I
think if you're just ranking saying all right, I could
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see him getting there. But I think it's gonna be
a very long and winding road to get to do
your numbers, as opposed to again not having to worry
week to week of who my quarterback is. I could
say fourteen fifteen guys and one of those is the
giant question mark of what's Matt Stafford's elbow really like?
Once he gets into the fire, it has to start
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making throws because you know, they can sell me all
they want during training camp of look how accurate he
is and come off the field, I look pretty good
on that throat, and I ha ha, that's all finding good.
I'm still, you know, peering that with a seventeen game
regular season, that there's a little bit of manipulation there
because the goal is back to back Super Bowls. By
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the way, they sent out a thing to season ticket
holders which was really cool, a little miniature ring replica
ring and a miniature Lombardi trophy, which I thought were
pretty cool. The Curtency and those in my timeline right
before we sat down to recording. But I guess it
stops with me as cousins, and then the tweener guy
is Derek Carr. I think that there's a huge drop
(26:38):
off after Derek Carr. Yeah right, I mean then you
start getting into Lawrence and and how much you love too.
I think two is gonna be a guy up and down.
I'll just tell you. For the league I just finished
at QB ten, I drafted Aaron Rodgers, which is three
spots higher than industry average, which is a little confusing
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to me. I still it's it's like my belief in
Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs. They've done it before,
they'll figure it out. It may take some time to
figure it out. I did make a bet about four
rounds later, as the backup started flying off, that Baker
Mayfield would be the guy, So I drafted him as
QB eighteen, which is much higher than industry consensus these rankings. Yes,
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but also one of the things that you're considering is
you're drafting a league, is that I wasn't gonna draft
a guy that had the same bye week as Rogers,
And by time I was looking for a backup, three
of the next options all had the same bye weeks.
So just a weird convergence of things there. But also, look,
if d J. Moore and Christian mccafpriy that everybody loves
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so much, a're gonna do something, quarterbacks gotta be useless, useful,
And I wasn't buying for a minute that they were
going to leave things in the hands of Sam Donald. Again,
Let's leave you with some names that that you love,
that you that you don't like, maybe some late round liars.
I jotted down a couple. But if you're if you're
later on in the rounds, if you're past this part,
are there any are there any training camp heroes that
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you're looking to grab names that you love. A couple
of guys that maybe you don't like so much. Well,
i'll go with the love. We're gonna be positive today,
we'll go. We'll come back with full hate. The kids
will be in school in other weeks, so they'll be
grousing about schedules or something by that. Uh. Sky more
there in Kansas City out of western Michigan, again owing
to the offense and not having a decided um set
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pecking order beyond Travis Kelsey. A guy that could emerge.
Uh if you we know people that work around the Chargers.
If I hear the name Isaiah Spiller one more time,
I might have to start a drinking game, although I
wouldn't be able to go on air. Most likely being
drafted RBT a guy that has shown quite brightly in
camp a little bit in the preseason opener. Uh. And
(28:54):
then a couple of tight ends, why because we we
neglect them oftentimes in our conversations. How about Albert Oh
yes Okawa by him if I hopefully I didn't dishonor
his heritage, but they're in Denver. And then yeah, I
missed a syllable there, bad job by me because I
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actually watched a primer video and practiced and everything. But
then you start talking about UH failures UH and and
guys you don't like, and you know, it just goes
out the window. David and Joku UH tight end twenty
guy that got paid a lot of money. And certainly
for the first eleven weeks, Jacoby bur said, I would
I would see him probably as a pretty good UH
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safety valve option. But then the final weeks, as you're
getting towards the playoffs, you may not like the return UH.
And maybe it'll be on even UH with Deshaun Watson
back under center. But I think there's some some value
to be had there at the tight end position. You
mentioned Brian Robinson earlier Washington. Maybe he takes over that
that spot for Antonio Gibson. Name that you love and
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and I wrote down as well, I'll give you three
other names. Actually make it four. I actually like Marcus
Mariota in Atlanta. I'm not saying he's gonna be a starter,
but if you're in a two quarterback league, if he
was your second quarterback, I would be very very happy
with Marcus Mariotta. I think that he works with Arthur Smith.
I like DeVante Parker in New England. Uh, we expect
Mac Jones to take that next step. Bill Belichick's very
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happy about it. Davante Parker has skills. I think he
just got lost in Miami and it wasn't his fault.
It was more of what was going on with the
quarterback position. So I like DeVante Parker in New England
as a possibility. And then two young names, Um, Bruce
Pickens in Pittsburgh I think is a trendy one afterward
where Georgia I'm sorry, Bruce Pickens. That's in the early
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nineteen nineties. Uh, George Pickens of the Pittsburgh Steelers. The
Uh there's a lot of hype about from what he
did in that game and a great catch again against Seattle.
So I like George Pickens there. Isaiah potteco of Kansas
City if I'm even pronouncing that correctly. Uh. With Edwards Hilaire,
you know me and c E H we are now
on bad terms. Could be a name to pop up.
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The other guy like Mike in Houston, is Damian Pierce.
Because Lovey Smith said that he popped on film. He
was a guy that you noticed. I love Marlon mack
in Houston. You know I love Mac, but if Pierce
continues to get this run in the preseason, he could
be a late round fill out roster name that you
may want to end up drafting. Oh. I like that
a lot because Lovey Smith. We do know he loves
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to go to the ground game. Marlon Max a guy
did draft in the league that I've referenced here with
my Aaron Rodgers UH selection. He was my sixter fifth
running back in this particular league and knowing that Pierce
could eclipse him in short order. Might be a month
before Pierce takes the role fully, but Houston may surprise.
(31:47):
I think they're gonna grind out a few wins and
really vex people. We're gonna end up doing all I
want your flex uh annual draft. So we're gonna be
doing that over the next couple of episodes and then
we'll get you ready for week one of the NFL seasons.
For my carmony, you can get on Twitter at Swollen
Dome and Ryan Bursting, our executive producer Harmon. It's been fun.
It's time for us to prep for a draft. How
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about that sounds great? Brother. We'll see you that. Talk
to you next time, hit me up on Twitter at
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