Hour 2 - Favre Is Finished

Jason and Mike explain why Brett Favre's time in the public eye is over, why Jacob de Grom's Mets career is coming to an end, Fansided's Jason Cole joins the show to talk Tua and the Dolphins, and some college upset picks!

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A Bruins right now seven to two to run Homer
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on the opening kickoff that looked like it was gonna
go for six. The kicker slides over and tries to
trip the returner who goes down at midfield. He's not
really touched. He kind of tries to avoid the kicker

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and does a front forward flip. But that's a that's
a really that's not just a penalty. That's dangerous, man,
what are you doing on that that that I'm all
for something like that. That where the end where the
referees get together and say that's a touchdown. You know,
you know what, he had an unimpeded progress and that's

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a dangerous play. You know what, we're giving the other
team six points. That that that I would like to
see that. I would like to see that change because
what happened it's a fifteen yard penalty, and what happened
usually got kept out of the end zone by the
Huskies on the first on first drive, so now it's
seven two instead of seven seven. I'm okay if when
that happens, you get a touchdown, Yeah, I would. I

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wouldn't be averse to that. Make a judgment ruling. I mean,
we send it up to the booth, for a million
other things, just to add one more especially, look, and
the theme of the week if you haven't figured it out,
and maybe we'll get the Peewee's playhouse behind it is
player safety, ma'am. I'll tell you players say. Look, we'll

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get you a little bit more on two in a second.
But let's finish the far of conversation that we were
having a few minutes ago, uh with with all the
new details that keep coming out every day about far
and of course far was accused of of siphoning money
from his charity and money that was earmarked for the
poor people of Mississippi into his daughter's volleyball program when

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she was playing at Southern miss It's a it's a
really ugly story. And you hear from people all the time.
You see a lot of criticism of why do we
talk about these other athletes so much? We don't talk
about Brett Farve? Is it racial? What's the element of it?
And I disagree with it. You know, you need to
flip that switch on Brett Farve and realize whoa Farv
isn't the Hey, look at me, all I do is

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throw touchdowns? Guy, He's not that guy. You should flip
that switch. But there's there're a lot of a lot
of people who still have a tough time thinking that
Far can be this guy, that he could be embroiled
in a in a controversy like this, and they're not
ready for it. You know, I'm not ready to talk
about Far in this this kind of way, because boy,
he was so beloved for so long, for twenty years,

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and I loved watching him play, and he threw a
lot of touchdowns. He was a gun slinger at the
old mind mentality. He was fun when he talked and
while we're here, So that's why people are are this
story hasn't taken off as big as it was. But
the flip side of this is that just no matter
how this plays out for Far, if you're looking for
justice for farv or or you know how this is

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gonna finish, He's finished as a sports figure. He's done.
There's no way you can come back from this. And
this is in an age when people come back from
things that they should never be able to come back from.
WHOA this happened? Yeah, I gotta do is lelo for
a little while, or just appeal to people who don't
think it's that big a deal and I'll have that popularity. No,

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this is awful on so many fronts. It's legal, it's moral.
He's done. Nobody's gonna want him around to be associated
with their product. No one's gonna want to interview him.
And where he is now on the periphery of sports,
where we hear from him once in a while, we
see a commercial once in a while. He gives opinions
about things. Once in a while. He'll talk about a

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Monday night game and say I wouldn't have thrown that pass,
or I think this is happening. He's gonna be finished,
and he's gonna be a guy that we won't talk
about who's gonna live his life, whether he's he's you know,
free or not, uh, depending how this how this case goes,
and he's gonna be someone who does and we'll get
pictures of him once in a while. Look at the
long beard that Farv has right now, Look how old

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Farv is right now, that's kind of gonna be his existence.
He is finished as a sports figure, and that part
of it is not coming back. So we're waiting to
see how the rest of this plays out. Legally, at
least knowing that that's what's gonna happen for him from
that public standpoint. Yeah, I think some of it. And
I wanted to go back to the comment you made
regarding how much attention this got in terms of sports

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talk radio and such, because it's been conflated and added
into so many other things that we have, you know,
and that we've discussed, and I've seen Colin Kaepernick's name
come up quite a bit. Well, it was a big
deal because it was about the sport. Did they did he?
Was he legitimately blackbald? Was could you find a paper trail?

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There's a smoking gun? Did they keep him out? Was
it a coordinating effort? Was at some teams and not
all teams? Like it was the sport under fire? And
a discussion flowing there. I saw one person with a
picture of Jamis Winston saying, you know, hey, go back
to when the crab legs. I always say he had
a deal with folks. Uh And then that security guard

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had had beef with him and over something else and
said no, no, no free meal on on my watch
because of X Y or Z. But we we don't
know what happened there, but that was a headline why
because it was kind of amusing, kind of weird, right,
the the offbeat, off the path, Red Farves, a retired

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Hall of Famer, some calling and trying to get your
usual change dot Org petitions out there to have him removed.
And you can go run with that as you will.
But and then we we certainly know in the Hall
of Fame plenty of guys who have been accused of
ample things, uh that are still there and the shrines

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uh survive And that's all again, take whatever side you want.
But when it comes to sports talk radio, this was
a sad, miserable story that kept winding in and I
guess you could say, yeah, it involved Southern Mississippi athletics,
so it's sports story, but it was more a news
story and a political story and updates coming through. We

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can all just look at it and I can say this,
and I think you would agree with me as the
summary statement of it all, uh, based on what we know,
Brett Farve is a bad guy and he associated with
a lot of really bad guys that were in positions
of power. We're talking five million dollars plus diverted in funds,
hundred thousand dollars from a childhood cancer charity that got

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diverted back into Southern miss Athletics. Yes, I don't know that.
There's a lot of debate and discussion to go on
from there, right, and everything else is a debate of
how the league should handle stuff, should they handle this is?
You know what is this all about? Uh? And and
again the Jamis thing was kind of funny, but people
then used it as a big indictment on him, which

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I kind of shrugged about it when it when you
get down to it with this, then there's there's no gray.
This is just terrible on every level, and every piece
is more damning than the next. Hence it doesn't become
a hot take nonsense sports talk radio debate, Twitter at
how about a fresca? Mike gets swollen? Do them? The

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Cole coming up in a few minutes to talk NFL
with us. But let let me just say this as
as we you know, we say goodbye to Bread Farve,
because that's really what we're all doing in our own way.
We're all finding a way to say goodbye to When
the text messages came out, I said goodbye to Bread Farther. Okay,
that's it, all right. You knew what was going on,
you knew it was happened, you were okay with it. Okay,
we're all in that wave of saying goodbye. But speaking

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of goodbye, I again, after what I've seen tonight, I
realize that I may only see Jacob Degram pitch hasn't
met one more time in my life before he leaves
this Maybe it I told you, it's my it's my
season long goodbye to de Gram. I knew it. I
knew it coming in because he's gonna want so much

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money and there's gonna be so much pressure to sign him.
But night's like tonight, when he pitches six innings and
isn't good and comes out of the game with a blister,
it's can you give the guy forty three million dollars? Next? Year,
of course not. This is the game we needed him
need and it's not. It's not like I can blame
him on the hitting because the Mets just haven't hit,
and that's why they brought up their number one prospect

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for a jolt with six games left in the regular season.
They're just not hitting. They they've all completely stopped hitting.
But this is a game where, hey, Jake, this is
where you know you need. We need seven innings one run,
not six innings, three home runs and you've given up
back to back jack's that give the Braves all kinds
of momentum. His the r A is over three, all right,
I mean this is it. I mean de Gram had

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a bad night and now he's got a blister. And
it's everything about de Gram that goes along with what
it means to have him on the team. It's it's
he's terrific when he's available, and now you see he's
got a blister, so who knows when he's gonna pitch again.
You're hoping in five days he can. But can you
give him forty three million a year when when this
is what we've seen over the past a few weeks,

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when the Mets have needed his starts and needed him
to beat Jacob Degram. And look, if you give up
six innings three runs, all right, that's a good start
for most people. Yeah, but but that's what you pay
a thousand other guys in Major League Baseball four that's
a lot of guys can do. I need you to
go one run, two hits in six innings every damn
time with this is this is what's needed. And Jacob

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Degram hasn't done it, so he's gonna opt out and
as Mets are gonna go, uh yeah, we got forty.
We we got to add a couple of our hitters.
We have to uh, you know, do a couple of
things with the bullpen. We have to you know, there's
new adjustments we have to make every single year. Jake,
if you can get that from Atlanta or somebody else,
go get it. And then Atlanta is gonna watch. It's
gonna be great when to Graham pitches and then he's

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gonna be hurt, and then you're not gonna know how
long till it until he comes back, and then you
gotta wait, and all of that is part of Hey,
I'll put up with it because the gram is great.
But when he's not great. You can't do it. You
can't do it. I'm like, I mean, maybe if he
can't make his next his next start might might schedule
for the first round of playoffs and the Mets don't
make it out of there. He's this is his last
game as I met. I mean that that's kind of

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where it's at right now, and I mean it's a
little weird for me, but I've always known it was coming.
We're gonna have to grom for a certain amount of time.
Then he's gonna say I want more money. I'm at
the deal I signed a few years ago because I
you know, I gave them Mets a bit of a
hometown discount. Don't want to do that. Still have a
lot of years left. Hoping I'm gonna opt out and
get forty plus million a year. Someone's gonna give it
to me, so I'm gonna go do it. It is.

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It's it's part of my season long good and I'm
realizing that tonight might be the last night, depending on
how things go the rest of the way, and if
they don't bring him back. It's hard for me to
say this, he's the best pitcher in baseball when he's healthy,
but I'm okay with it because you've got to be
able to count on you. Yeah, I mean you have
to sell yourself at this point that you were okay

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with it. It's all it's all about the Jets and
the I'm selling myself the last few months. You gets goot,
he's got to be a guy that you know that
it's worth it that bringing him back and paying him,
that you can count on him. And when you can't
count on a guy, it's hard to say, Okay, here's
forty three million when you know you can't count a guy.
It's okay, we're gonna go three years thirty million. Oh

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all right. If if it turns out bad for us
ad it's only ten millions, but this is forty million
a year, probably more because he's gonna want more than that.
Um No, if you're gonna get that, you gotta be
absolutely unbelievably great. And if you're hurt, okay, but you've
still gotta be You've either gotta be available all the
way through and really really good, or you gotta be
available most of the time and be great. And Rom

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hasn't been that this year, So yeah, I can see
the Mets letting him go, and honestly, I'm okay with it.
You can use that forty three million to go other places,
for other pictures and for other other holes you have
to fill on the roster. I mean, look, if this
is it for de Gram, this is it for de Gram.
It's been a great run. It's been a great eight years.
He's been unbelievably, he's been the best pitcher in baseball,
one of the best right handed pitchers I've ever seen,

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probably one of the top five pitchers I've seen in
the last thirty years. But when you're thirty four, thirty five,
you're not gonna suddenly get healthier. It's not gonna suddenly
get better. I mean, this is it. Maybe this is
my goodbye right now. Maybe this is maybe I'm talking
with you like you're my my psychiatrist and I'm going, hey,
I need to talk about losing Jacob de Graham here.
I need some help, and you're helping me with this
right now. Yeah, it's not your fault. Okay, your fault.

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I like that. I like I like that you say that.
I like these. We'll just go through the full damon
Robin Williams dynamic here yeah, it was my fault that
I chose the Mets to be a fan of it,
not the Yankees. That that well, I mean that's I mean,
we look, we can we can't turn back the clock.
I mean you can change a legion says now, you
could say you rediscovered your love of the game because
of Aaron Judge. Is year? Does that sound legitimate? I

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rediscovered my left Aaron Judge before he leaves in free agency,
rediscovered my love of the game. So what you're saying
is you're just gonna cheer for individual players going forward,
that's all. I don't care what people they play for.
I'm just gonna cheer from then. I'll never be disappointed.
Oh well, no, you'll be plenty and plenty disappointed because

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they're gonna be years. There's gonna be games like tonight.
You're hating the guy because he was average for a game.
It was average for a game, gave up back to
back home runs, which I thought, my I was gonna
see the Twitter whale tale the number of people who
couldn't get to Twitter fast enough to talk about how

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rare an event this was. It was like something in
the cosmos. Oh my god, he gave up back to
back home runs has never happened. What's going on? Is
he really Jacob to Graham or is it like in
Avengers when when they're impersonating people and it's really Ben
Mendelssohn dressed up? Is Jacob dem? Wait? How many planets
are in retrograde? What the hell's going on? It would

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be mercury and retrograde, because mercury seems to always be
in retrograde. It seems like that's what it is the
most obvious. Yeah. Yeah, Mercury is in retrograde. I think
other planets can be in retrograde as well, but Mercury
is alall. I think Mercury lives in retrograde. Okay, yeah,
it's like a big and I live in retrograde? Yeah? Sure,
How are you living? How's everything going? I'm living in

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the retrograde. Yeah, it's like a pocket passer. Hey, that pocket.
He's living in retrograde. Man, that's where that's where he works.
Conscribed Mike, You've been friends with him a long time.
It lives in retrograde. Man, it's retrograde. It's south of
l A. It's just downside of Redondo Beach. Retrograde it's
right there, It's right there. It's a continual short backs,

(15:56):
backwards steps for Harmon. Well, Jacob Degram because he had
a good run. I need to say goodbye now just
in case it's who Boa Tyshaw whoa. I tried to
class it up with boys two men, and he must
get at him every time like we say goodbye. Ty
Shirt wants the musket to go off. He wants, he

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wants to be who wants it to be cleaned and efficient?
I can't. It's not me, So he's bomb. That's the
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weekend ahead of us in the NFL, as we still
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he is now trying to communicate with aliens from other planets.

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You know this when you see just a random a
music line, a random lyric, He's actually trying to talk
with people and other planets. Check out his Twitter you'll
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of I will send more more Chuck Berry promise. Did

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the other planets say to you, hey, you know we're
here like five light years away? What the hell are
the dolphins doing with two of the last couple of nights?
We were trying to figure it out? Can you tell us?
You know? The Stephen A of the of the Alternate
Work Universe on ESPN Outer Planets Um went on just
a wild rant about this this morning when I was

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when I was listening to their show. Okay, shocking off. Uh,
you know, here's my only problem with this whole thing.
I'm not a doctor. Um, I haven't played one on TV.

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But god, that would be great, wouldn't it. Because if
you could be a TV doctor, who would it be?
Quincy the medical exam? Well he was the medical examiner.
He was the smartest guy. But did you require a PHDV?
Probably what's a good question. I would guess you did.
You can't. You can't just apply to be a coroner,
or you can't you know, Yeah, you have to say,

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yeah he's a doctor. Yeah, he's definitely not. And it
was Plugman. Yeah I want to be Mary Marcus. Well,
but you don't want to go old no, no, no, no, no,
truth mixed they were, they dated all incredibly. Oh yeah
he made it. But that that plane crash happened, all right,

(19:21):
don't want to ruin that one. Um. So I I
guess my thing is, if this policy were to be
handled correctly, you have an independent neurologist who should just
make a determination, right, And so I trust that doctor

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made a determination on Sunday that and what we were
told is the truth. And we're going to find out
because Dr Tom mayor Um said today and he's a
you know, he's a phosian for NFL Players Association. He
said that they're gonna, you know, they're going to print that,
you know, make it public with nicks work. And so

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hopefully we'll get to some level of truth on this,
right And but it always has to be somebody independent
because the players, the players don't grasp what's going on here,
like they think it's life and death because there's a
lot of money on the line. Obviously, you know, too
has got to play well this year, not only to
help the team, but he's got you know, chance of

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a big contract of course. And and and the head coaches,
I mean, you leave it to them. I mean, you know,
like those guys would send players to their death if
they can win a game. I mean, that's just how
they are. I mean, I still remember Dave wants that
Chris chamber has got this just nasty concussion. I think
it was in Denver and the doctor told me, yeah,

(20:45):
he's gonna miss it at least a couple of weeks.
And then what you know, once that got that and
just well that means only one game because he misses
this week, doesn't play in the game, and then he
misses another week and complain in the game right nowday,
That's that's not how it works. That's not what I'm missing.
A couple of weeks means to the doctor that you

(21:06):
think that needs that to you so um, you know
you can't t I just hope that we get to
the point where the independent neurologist pretty much is the
only person he makes the determination. And Okay, even that
guy can make a mistake occasionally. And I don't know
if that's what happened with two uh, but boys, you

(21:28):
know when he went to that convulsion on the field
with his hands, I mean, Roger Addell is like, no, no, no,
don't play that. You know, like that's that was scary.
I mean that reminded me of football in the seventies.
I put it, you know, I put it up on Twitter.
I remember Jim young Blood, Zack and Tommy Kramer in Minnesota,

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and you know, he went into convulsions with his hands.
He could see it, and I was like, I was like,
I was probably thirteen years old or something. I just
was like, what fabrics going on? Like let me bring
damage m you know the thing that that gets me
about this j is that, let's just say the Dolphins,
everything they've said is accurate. Right, he went through the Yeah,

(22:14):
well I had to be at this point. I mean,
I don't know how many sandwiches, how many more donations
you have to make to the to the rowing company.
I mean, come on, I mean I made a lot.
You went for sandwiches, and that was gonna be week
and you knew, You're like, I gotta pivot from sandwich.
Sandwich is not good enough. Rowing. Throwing saved Dave. I'm saved,

(22:38):
you know, because here's what here's here's the thing that
that gets me on Let's just say what the Dolphins
are saying. Everything is true. You believe everything they say,
and they're telling the truth. He was looked at on
the sideline. He was cleared. Uh, they checked him out.
Didn't need to be a concussion protocol. They checked him
out during the week, everything was fine. They still took
a guy who clearly wasn't healthy and put him back

(23:01):
in the game on Sunday and then put him back
in the game to start on Thursday. They took an
injured player who you knew something was up, whether it
was a concussion. Well it's no concussion, he can play, no,
but obviously there's something wrong that guy. You saw what
happened to him. He fell down after he after he
hit his head, right, I don't think he can play
this week. No matter what happens. They still took an
injured player and said, yeah, well you passed concussion test,

(23:23):
you can go back out on the field. It's the same,
no matter what you could say, that's what they did
and that's the same. That's it's basically the same thing
as we were negligent and we put an injured player
back out there. So nothing changes for it. Right. The
question is this is where you always have to have
other doctors who are independent making judgments. And the team

(23:45):
doctors are a joke because the team doctor get paid
by the team, right, so they're beholden to the team.
That's why I always say you have to have like
an independent neural. Just okay, if he got by Sunday
because the intendent neural, all right, I'll buy that, But
where was the second opinion during the middle of the week,

(24:06):
to you know, to have him go to somebody and say, okay,
I'm clearing this guy, or I don't know that's the
That's the one that I've always very literally about is
did the kid have adequate second opinion and get other
people look at him, and did those people claim Because
if they did, then this can be a situation where

(24:27):
it is two different injuries that happened to be very
closely related. It could be that, right, because he took
that was a nasty hit last night, right that you know,
fallen back on the back of your head. That's that's
a nasty as it gets, especially on art artificial turf field.
That's that's awful. Right, So, um, this couldn't be two

(24:49):
different injuries. I'd like to know that, But I would
most importantly like to know that from a doctor who
doesn't get paid by the team, because that's the problem
I really have. And I know plenty of team doctors
who you know, they have very fine reputation, but at
the end of the day, they get a check cut
to them by the team or worse, this is the

(25:11):
worst one, you know, because this happens everywhere. Now they're
part of a medical group that decides, oh, we want
to buy sponsorship on the team, you know, like Health South,
Health South when they were still around and they were
buying team sponsorships everywhere. I think it was like twenty
years ago. And like, those guys aren't trustworthy at all,
you know, because they're in they're basically in bed with

(25:33):
the team more than ever. So that's where that's where
my real problem was with all of this goes is
did a guy see an independent doctor, did he get
a fair opinion, and did he know you know, did
he get all the information necessary? So I'll give you
your choice and choose your own adventure for a couple

(25:53):
of games. You're one that involves our our buddy Mr
Smith's jet. So what comes first, Mitchell Robiskie loses his
job or Josh McDaniels against Denver and the what that
flows out of that he loses his job? Who's out
of work? First? Mr? He come out of that's too simple?
But like Mark David is not going to fire Josh

(26:16):
McDaniels after four games. I mean that that would be ludicrous.
I mean even by even by Mark Davis standards, even
by Mark Davis standards, that would be ludicrous. Um. But
the real question is, here's a really important question about
the Raiders. When things go sideways with that team, who

(26:39):
does Mark Davis trust, Yeah, who does he go to
for counsel? Because Mark Badane's gone, all those other executives gone,
or Van Charlie's gone. And I know that they brought
in Sharon Douglas. I can't remember her last Morgan. Sharon
Douglas Morgan is the new president. I'm sorry he doesn't
trust her yet, Okay, with say what are our actions?

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What do we do? Where do we go? He doesn't
trust Judge McDaniels has never really worked with a guy
he doesn't trust as Eagler, that's you know, that's McDaniel's.
This guy who's there for Mark Davis to go to
for counsel. And I'll tell you this, the person that
I've been told he is closest to who helps him
the most, who he has the trust and the most,

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is his executive assistant, who has been around him for
about twenty years now. She's the most powerful. She's basically
the most powerful person in the organization outside of Mark
Davis and Tad. Is just stunning to me. He has
nobody there to seek counsel from. And that's why I

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think that the NFL is getting closer and closer and
closer to forcing Mark Davis out of that team. It
may take a couple more years. But the woman that
they brought in as president again, this woman um sharing
in Douglas Morgan. She came from the NFL's outside law firm,

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like she's trained by the league people. And I just
I just get the feeling that the league is eventually
going to say, Mark, We're gonna have these other guys
kind of run things for you. You need, you need
more help, you need, you need to kind of mosey
along because this has been a disaster. It really has,

(28:27):
you know, the Grouden thing as a disaster, the d
u I s in that city, or the disaster the
sexual harassment charges. Um. You know, I know the value
of the team has gone up and up and up,
and they've got a lot of money from Vegas, but
that really wasn't Mark doing. I mean they got handed
a big blank check by you know, the goodman in
Las Vegas. Um. I really think they want him out

(28:50):
and they want they want to really well run organization
in Vegas eventually, and they're going to do whatever they
can't get get rid of him. He's on Twitter at
Jase sin Cole sixty two. That is at Jason. That
was great though, you know, and ended with someone being
deposed for alfeasance and and and being a terrible owner

(29:12):
in the city of sin and and the more serious
Jason Cole gets, the deeper hist voice here said, you
noticed that he starts out up here, Mason kind of quality.
Don you know you're no? You know no, You're now
You're going to law school and we're going to medical school.
What do we do? You know? I got Lauren is
going to go back. I I can't. I can toggle

(29:32):
back and forth between them. There's no question about that.
Can you say, Martha for me in a gruff voice, Martha,
there you go. Ju, I heard you say Batman. He
was like, like it was like Lego Batman. Deep is
how he needed to be. That's how DP gets. Be

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Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with my best friend
Mike Harmon. They are who we thought they were and
look at you see l A. We could see the
first upset of the weekend Tonight, Pack twelve after dark
the Bruins. I'll lead Washington twenty three to ten. Midway

(31:04):
through the second quarter, they had a big interception. Now
a touchdown pass has given them the lead. Uh. They
looked a little shaky at first, but Thompson Robinson having
a pretty nice night so far, just through a second
touchdown of the night. They may not have a lot
of fans Mike Harmen, but c l A. It could
be five us LA in Syracuse could be five and
oh after tomorrow. I just think about that for a second.

(31:26):
It's a new world or I mean, look, you joined
the Big ten and all of a sudden you're a powerhouse.
And then look what happens. Uh. Look they'd moved the
ball well Washington did to uh near midfield, and then
Pennix Jr. Gets picked a lot of hype coming into
this game for him. Uh, Blaylock returned it all the
way to fifteen and somehow you had a receiver doing

(31:47):
jumping Jack's wide open standing by himself, and you have
Brown for the touchdown from Thompson Robinson. So a big play,
big opportunity, if I'm not mistaken. U C. L A
was just giving away tickets, trying to at a crowd.
They're trying to get some excitement on a Friday night,
and uh, right now they're giving him a thrill. They
were giving away tickets. Let you coach, like like your Eddie,

(32:11):
you call some plays in Hey, let's all black fifty
nine ra to power trap, let's run a little bit
of that. What you can never tell me is as
a sports team owner, Frank l Angela didn't get creative, right.
I mean he takes WHOOPI Goldberg and and she gets
down there and then when when we go back to
his work with the Cleveland Browns like Dennis Leary and

(32:33):
uh and run them muck and your guy Costner and
you know he wanted the special teams expert for Jennifer
Garner to take care of salary cap stuff. So it's
all good, alright. So with that going on right now,
we'll keep you updated on U C l A. And
you dubbed throughout the nights. It looking me you dub
I'm so cool. Uh, Mike and I do this every week.

(32:53):
Give you are upset special picks in college football the NFL.
Here's our college football picks. I was two in one
last week. I've missed an undefeated week by two points,
by two. Well, I got I got smart and after
we we talked Sparty, I said, yeah we'll add them.
Yeah they sucked. Florida gave me. Florida gave me an
effort though. Yeah, you know. Plus the number I did

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just fine. Uh. First one I'm gonna give you is
North Carolina State getting seven over Clemson. Like last week.
The quarterback of Clemson's opponent is legit, Devin Leary is legit.
Clemson's defense is getting torched. I don't care how many
NFL guys they have, and then their defense is getting torched,

(33:38):
not by guys who are great quarterbacks, but by legit
quarterbacks in the A C C. Now, obviously, if the
weather Hurricane Ian and some after effects of this could
make it messy a bit, but uh, North Carolina State
is too good. They will keep this close. I'm still
not sold on Clemson as a big contender. Juiana Lalla
had the game of his life last week to hold

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onto his starting job. But give me North Carolina State.
I see Clemson surviving by a field goal or less.
With the seven points, I'll take the wolf Pack. There
you go. I'm gonna go back to our conversation with
Pete feu Tech and as always we mocks the Iowa
offense because they're terrible, but the defense has been fantastic
and should be up to the task to try to

(34:20):
contain McCarthy. Uh. And when you look at core Um
out of the backfield averaging seven five A Carrie and
nine touchdowns on the year, so certainly a something to handle.
But I am looking for Iowa to make just enough
players to give me inside that plus ten and a half.
As well as strange things have happened in this series

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in Kinnock, and I'm looking for more of it on
Saturday as we turned the calendar to October. I'm with
you on that. Look. J J. McCarthy is really good,
but he wasn't a huge playmaker against Maryland. Maryland was
legit and and Michigan was the team. Yeah, Michigan was
the better team. He hasn't turned the ball over, but
iwa was deef It's is really good. I think he's

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gonna give them a couple of this game. That's gonna
keep the game close. And what's gonna happen is Jim
Harber's gonas. Okay, we got to give the ball to
Blake Corehum five times in this game. Blake Coreum Heisman finalists.
By the way he's going, with the way he's running, Uh,
he'll get going enough. And I can see Michigan winning
this by a touchdown, by four or six points because
they're they're just they're just too good of a team.

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But this is gonna be a real struggle. And ten
and a half eleven points that's way too much. But
I'm with you on iwa me is that a good
or a bad thing? We both like one of the
same upset specials. I don't know, probably a bad thing. Okay,
final score Michigan sixty. Boy J J. McCarthy five touchdowns
in the first five minutes. We've never seen that in

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the history of college football. What a great day for
McCarthy and boy those yeah who's on the radio really
got this one wrong. Let's all laugh at them. Oh
it certainly could be. Yeah, Twitter and out about a fresca.
Mike gets swollen done the Jason Smith Show with my
best friend Mike Hartman. So there it is. Our upset

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special picks in college football. Coming up next, our Week
four bold predictions for the NFL. What do we see
coming