November 11, 2022 • 42 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon discuss the abysmal Thursday Night Football game between the Falcons and Panthers, give you some BOLD NFL predictions for the 2nd half of the NFL season including who could be an MVP favorite down the stretch and much, much more!
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Hey blank, you Vito well, and then he got and
then he got the name of the show wrong. So
like that, let's have fun. Let's joke you Jokerson. I
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have a deal that's wrong. Listen. I'm sorry if you
guys are upset, but you guys want to make fun.
You want to make fun of me the last few nights. Well,
this is how you have to pay. Oh wait a second,
you have something to do with this open I had
everything to do with that open. Well, then thank you two. Well, then, uh,
it's been good knowing you. They're in breach of contract
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and I'm leaving. How is the breach of contract that
changed the name of the show. That's not the legal
show name. It just said, it just said a name.
No no, no, no, no no. It's very specific. It's
very very specific things. Yeah, I just learned heard the
Jason Smith Show with my car and I heard that there, No,
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I heard that. I think he said. I heard that
that that Frostberg is always off, highly problematic. I heard
the Jason Smith Show with my attorneys will be in touch.
I'm sorry. The Chargers are in contention at five and
three and Ricky here in Trouble Talker back Sunday Night Games.
I'm sorry there, Vito, your producers off. There's gonna be
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a brawl in the always because of a show open.
I've never heard that before. I'm gonna walk into his
office now and kick his ass. Oh you know this
conversation right any trumpets stuff into that. I mean this
conversation right now. This is exactly what goes on in
the hallways of Twitter right now. This is exactly that's
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how that's how they're talking. Can you believe all this?
Can you believe this? Can you believe we have to
do this? Can you believe we're gonna get fired if
we don't show up to work in person? Can you believe?
Uh like I said, hey, Twitter has gone from the
wild West to the mad Hatter's Tea Party. That that's
exactly what you can find me on Instagram. That swollen
and now it is the mad Hatter's Tea Party. Whatever
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happens happened. Although Meta's fire in a bunch of folks too,
So maybe the starts to go walkyorld. But looklet's start
my own place. I don't know if if if metal
World Peace started his own uh social I don't know
what I joined it. I don't know. Last time we
heard him, he came on the show, told us he
was writing erotic science fiction. Yes he did. That's the
last we heard from from metal World in his name
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at that point too. He might have he might have,
but yeah, but I mean, I mean clear today. Look,
Jesus Christ was verified. That's true. I mean even he paid.
I'll tell you what, man, I saw a lot of
stuff hit his sum Man given folks propensity to just
hit retweet and go oh my god as they do.
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So there's there's a lot of hell fire. Good question, Yeah,
go ahead. How does the guy pay eight bucks? Uh? Well,
he's back, He's supposed to come back. Now he's back.
Didn't you see him on family guy? Is he with
win or with wout? Didn't you see the tweet what
has two thumbs and is verified this guy? I saw
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someone at a had a picture from a thrift store
the other day and they go, I didn't think i'd
see thirst trapped Jesus and on the wall, and it's
like you would do the best filter on your Instagram
photos there following for us. I don't know, they'd probably
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get that account right now and get that Jesus. There's
that Jesus right be what the finals are coming up?
You know? So pretty? You pay eight bucks? I don't know.
I'll save that eight bucks for for other endeavors. It is, uh,
it is, It is absolutely that. I mean it is
the Mad Hatter's Tea party on Twitter right now. Look
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yesterday it was the beginning of all the false reports. Right,
Josh McDaniels was fake fired on Twitter by Adam Schefter.
Right today? What was it? A drug company announces we're
giving away and then it was no, no, no, that's
not us. You know that was a fake account. We're
not giving away insulin for free. I mean, that's it's
it's Mad Hatters tea party, I walk up going through
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the right, going through the rabbit hole when you get
on Twitter, now, I mean, I don't know what to expect.
Every time I get on on there during the day,
when I see things I really don't know, I'm like,
what what is today going to bring? What are we
gonna have? Right? I have no idea, I'll click let
me see. It's like I'm being surprised. Well, it's funny
because it's just been such a part of what we do,
right to say, dominating information back and forth to each other.
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Is this value? Look at this? This is kind of
crazy obviously, the news of the weird, all of those things,
And now it's the trepidation of one wasting my time
altogether because what I find I then have to do
a deep dive to figure out whether it's a legit,
a count or not. Like and they weren't the extra clicks.
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So I found myself going back to just good old
fashioned blogs and verifying the uh H T t p
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world is falling apart on Twitter right now. We have
another in a long line of great TNF games, except
not at all. Uh. In a driving rain storm in Carolina.
The Panthers lead the Falcons thirteen three. Midway through the
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third quarter. Leaviska Shenault the only touchdown of the game
of forty one yard touchdown run, and this has the
Panthers out with the lead over the Falcons. One of
the big story lines in this game coming in and
I get it, I understand, and I want to say
great things and I want to talk about how good
he's played. Uh, Marcus Mariota, who up until tonight has
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had a pretty good season. Tonight not so much. But uh,
there is the rain to consider. But they're not throwing
the ball a lot. They're trying to, They're just they're
just not having a night. Well, it's it's proven that
he can't throw the ball. I mean that. And that
is the one thing you've seen here on opportunities and
it's why defensive backs or defensive backs. Something I've been
saying on this show since we started here, like there's
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a really big reason. Uh, he should have like nine
interceptions tonight. He just missed a wide open Kyle Pitts
who had a defender probably twelve yards off him and
just overshot him full out. He's not gotten rid of
the ball on his scrambles at one point, just stepping
out of bounds, Like, really, what are we doing here?
He's he's he's had at he's had an okay season, right,
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But to think that he's Geno Smith, he's not right.
He's he's someone that honestly things I never thought I'd say,
Marcus Mariota, as as nice as he is, he is
not Geno Smith. Don't don't don't come in here with
that Geno Smith slander that suddenly other guys are played
as good as Gino is. Now. Look, Marcus Mariota has
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been okay, he's been a he's been a decent bridge quarterback,
and he's really what you want in a backup, right,
a guy that can come in, can play a little bit,
and maybe your team doesn't go to hell if he
has to play. But let's be honest here. I mean,
if you're going back to the beginning of the season
knowing what you know. Now, if you're the Falcons, don't
you make an effort to try to get Jimmy Garoppolo
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or somebody else, because if you just had like decent
like I would say decent because Mariotte has been decent,
if you had average quarterback play slightly you know, just
around average quarterback, I mean, you might have a two
or three game lead in this division because the foul
and look, this division is awful, and the Falcon sitting
in first place, but now they're gonna fall out of
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first place. In the Carolina Panthers are gonna win their
third game and they're gonna be a They're gonna be
a half game out of first place. Uh. If you
just had a you know, a quarterback that was in
the middle of the pack, you might be leading this
division by a couple of games. You. Hey, we're a playoff.
We made that move from Matt Ryan and we're feeling
pretty good about where we are right now. Yeah. Just
and and just as we mock him, Uh, there's a
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touchdown pass to Drake London. Uh, extra point pending. The
running games started to get going, but you've lost a
couple of close games. Uh, coming into tonight ten touchdowns
against six picks, averaging about a hundred seventy three passing
yards a game, but has been affected with his legs.
And as we talk out all the time, you know
you you adopted and adapt your squad to to what
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the efficiencies and where your strengths are. And we know
that with the run game, they've got three guys. Cordell
Pattison what finally found his role, right, the guy that
was special teams and electric at times. Bears tried to
figure out how to adapt and improve his uh snap
count by bringing him in as a wide receiver. That
didn't work. Well, Um, yeah, that's the Bears. So they
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didn't figure it out there and we're a couple of
offensive coordinators and coaches since then. But as a running back,
he was fantastic last year. The durability obviously a concern,
but you have two other capable backs, the rookie all
year and and Huntley. Uh that you've been you've been
able to do some some big things on the ground,
and so you're you're in these ball games time and again.
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Defense has stood up, uh better than then you would
have anticipated. And in some of these games and narrow losses.
We talked out the one um against the Chargers from Sunday,
every opportunity to win. It said, here, take this victory.
I mean, if you told me in August, Jason, you
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guys gonna do a show in December, Okay, great, and
and it it's gonna be a very controversial open that
that Mike and Frostbur are gonna be upset by and say, okay, yeah,
that'll probably happen. And you're going to say thank you
as decent as he's been well that that Frostburg is
gonna say blank you Yeah, okay, what else is new?
As decent as he's been. Marcus Mariotta is no Geno Smith.
I would say this is like an alternate Earth. It's
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I'm on one of those other Earth planets. I'm not
on this one. What do you mean, Marcus Mariotta is
no Gino Smith? What the hell is wrong with you?
How do you think that I'm not gonna say that
in December? Oh no, no, hey, open the show, fastball
right down the middle. Marcus Mariotta is no Gino Smith.
Don't try to mix these two together and say that,
oh yeah, these are two guys that jump started their career. No, no, no,
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Marcus Mariota is gonna get replaced after this year. Ge
know Smith is gonna get a contract extension something. It's
gonna be. We gotta lock up Gino. We gotta pay
him before somebody else is gonna want Gino to go
get him. And you're gonna see Seattle Seahawks say, we
are happy to give Geno Smith a two year, forty
five million dollar contract with forty million dollars of it guaranteed.
We are really happy with everything he has done for
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this team. These are things I did not think I
would say in August, and I would have said you
were crazy, But here we are. But that's the beauty
of it. For the second time this week, you get
to tie Gino Smith to one of the big stories
that isn't his in the National Football League and then
see how many people follow the breadcrumbs and you come
jumping along for those takes on a Friday morning. So
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that's a fun thought experiment. But you go through they
lost both games to the l A team's total of
seven points Tampa Bay at one fifteen loss. No, it's
not like they're blowing teams out in a lot of
these other game, the one point loss to to the Saints.
Going back to Week one, It's been an interesting year
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for the Falcons. To your point, Yeah, a better quarterback,
more efficient quarterbacks. Certainly Kyle Pitts and Drake London owners
have been waiting for that all year. Uh and here
you got pits, Like I said, opportunities and he missed
him and then he ends up throwing a beautiful ball
to to London to cap off the drive here in
the middle of the end zone. So run games starting
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to find its way. Kicking game, however, has not. And
I gotta say those Panthers helmets, they really made me
want to change my pick because I picked the Falcons
to win the game, thought on the helmet too much
and then boom, there you go twitter at how about
a Fresca Mike at Swollen Dome And the touchdown by
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Drake London makes it thirteen nine. However, young Wai Coup
misses the extra point, his first miss in seventy two
extra point attempts, make the game thirteen nine. Now Panthers
getting the football back late in the third quarter. It
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Well coming up next, left more on this game. Got
a Big Bowl prediction coming your way. And speaking of
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Bowl predictions, how about we get your cooking here on
a Thursday night. Since we are basically at the midway
point of the NFL season, you have a lot of
people looking back at the first who's the m v
P after the first nine weeks? How about Austin Ekeler?
Is he's right there? Sure, he's right there. Sauce Gardener
is right there. Absolutely, he holds too much and it
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doesn't know you know why he doesn't hold because they
don't throw their flag. They don't throw the flat of
his hands in that holding position, it's not holding if
they don't throw. They just don't. During Super Bowl week
when they're not in it, and he comes to radio Row,
I'll be sitting there with the plaster set. It's like
what are you gonna do? Hey, while you while we
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do this interview, I'm gonna need you to put your
hands like you know, you think he's really going to
talk to you. Sauce Gardener is gonna talk You kidding?
I'm gonna come. Absolutely, that's the one guy. Are you kidding?
I'm gonna walk in with all kinds of tabasco? Hey,
could you sign this? Could you sign? No? Could you sign?
This is barbecue for the Jet? Can you sign this?
He's gonna sign everything the Jets. Be sure to catch
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I see what you mean there where they open with
with the name. I see what you mean there? Now,
I see what you mean there with the name with
the name in the end, you still wanted us to
play it? Now, I'm pretty sure you requested it. I
I don't think I requested that. I think Alex Heisher
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said hey, the new open is coming up, and I said,
oh good, let's hear it again. That's all I throw
the because that's exactly how it happened. That's exactly how
I pawned for the review. No, that's exactly how it went,
as the guy who went behind our backs and made it.
You think I know how to edit something like that,
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don't make this for me? McRib Is that how I
talk is good? I think talks like that. You sound
like my dad trying to do an impression of people. Dad,
how is your day today? Oh? Man? I got into
it with one of the checkout counter at Pavilions. What happened?
And he says, I said to the guy, here's my coupon.
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The guy said, whoa, we're not checking the coupon And
I said, but I haven't. I cut it out of
the paper. Well, I gotta check with my manager. I
got check your manager. Like everybody my dad talks about has.
That's a pretty good impersonation of yourself. That's what's what
he does. Dad. Now my head is spinning with all
the different accents. It's it's spinning and spinning. It's uh,
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So let me with speaking of throwing people under the bus.
If we wind up getting overtime in this craptastic TNFDA
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between the Panthers and the Falcons, it's mine and Frostburg's fault. Okay,
it's mine and Frostburg's fault. Because before we started the show,
Open came in and Frostburg I said, hey, is Jason Cole,
you know our big NFL guests we have on all
the Time magazine. Is he coming on after the game?
He goes, yeah, he's coming on after the game, and
Frostburg says, well, there's because there's not gonna be any
overtime because the score was twenty two to nine. And
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then as soon as he said there's not gonna be overtime,
the Falcon score a touchdown and I said, yeah, but
if kum miss is an extra point here, it's a
seven point lead with two and a half minutes left
to go, we could get overtime. What happens, young wayku
miss is another extra point. So it's twenty two fifteen
with two forty six left to go, we could still
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get over time in this game. And it's our fault
because he gets fired down another one. Uh who Frostburger
Cole Young? Oh yeah, well like he was by the
Chargers back in the day or whatever. But I mean,
who's a who's a really good kicker? Now, I mean
he wasn't, but Arthur Smith looked like he was going
to charge the field, yeah and tackle him. Yeah. Up,
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he was an enraged fan taking the field ex Charger.
Now good. Well, here's the thing, depending on how this
game ends, because it would be two seventeen, so they
would still need a field, you know more, don't forget
that field goalie miss before right, Yeah, guys missfield. Well's
it's a driving rainstorm, you know, it's not. It's not
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his to T P T s though. Man, Yeah, that's
what I mean. The p A T S A what
you have to count you have to talk about. Hey, Jason,
don't try and put this evil on me. Ricky Bobby,
you're the you're the you're the one who said it
Walker and Texas crap. You know who's fault it is.
It's Arthur blank Fall for coming down to the sideline
with five minutes left in the game. Don't blame me.
That's got to be really annoying. You look over your shoulder.
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There he is. He's right at his his personal assistant
or whoever that is wandering with. It was like step
eyeballing me. I got a game to finish. Don't say anything.
The owner is right behind you. What. Oh wow? Okay, alright, alright,
don't say anything. Don't mention how we went out in
the back and drank beer on our break last week.
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I don't want to get fired. Okay, wow, you you
almost had a gift at midfield. Actually it would have
been about the thirty yard line. But once again defensive
backs can't catch as p J Walker and makes a
truly inexplicable decision that ball should have been taken back
to the house. That shouldn't even have been just an interception.
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But falling down and down he goes near interception by
the Falcons. But they do get the football back. Still
with a little bit over two minutes have to go,
they are a touchdown away from sending this all over time.
And of course what do they do. They run the
football they tried with two and a half minutes left
to go, Let's run the football that has been their
bread and butter all season. So yeah, but you gotta
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throw the football. There's two and a half minutes left
to go. You gotta throw it. You think he'll be
as open as Hodge was on that touchdown pass before
this This game, this game is just so craptastic. Man,
I can't even tell you. Oh, Mariota gets sacked. It's third,
do you know? You know, let's get into this here
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for a couple of secons, because this is this is
a good time to get and talk about the quarterback
play here tonight, because Marcus Mariota is the number one
trending topic on Twitter. He is having a really bad game.
And Marcus Mariota, for the most part this season, has
enjoyed pretty good publicity for being someone who, hey, look
at him, he's not terrible and jobs get out of
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the way. Yeah, well, Cooper Rush at least won a
few more games like he was he was four and
to Marcus Mariota is gonna be four and six. But
you know, he's he generally has generated pretty good reviews.
I mean, he's not Geno Smith, which is something I
never thought i'd say in December, But overall, I get
now the oh my god, Marcus Mariota stinks. Right, everybody
on social media, this guy's terrible. This is two really
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bad games in a row. He had a horrible game
against the Chargers last week. They could have potentially won
that game. Another horrible game now, but he was coming
off of three big games before that. I understand the
Marcus Mariota stinks. What are we doing bringing Desmond Rider?
I understand that. But that's not the real story because
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this year, Mariota is an NFL average quarterback. You look
at all his metrics, he's about and he's about the
between the fourteenth and sixteen seventeen rated quarterback in the NFL. Right,
He's having the same kind of year, just almost the
same kind of year as Kirk Cousins, Right, maybe a
little bit better than Daniel Jones. I mean, he's at
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the league average. It's not like Marcus Mariota is the
rated quarterback in the NFL. He's Kenny Pickett. He's throwing
two touchdowns and nine interceptions, and we don't know what's
going on. He has been a league average quarterback. The
real story of the year is vil cow Down. The
quarterback play is across the league this season. Great great
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quarterback play is not what we're getting. We're getting very
very good quarterback play, but the levels we were at
the last couple of years, forget it, nothing close to
this year. We might not even see a quarterback with
forty touchdowns this year for the first time in four years. Right,
I don't know anybody. My Mahomes may get to forty.
All right, he's a twenty one right now with the
extra game. But everybody else, nobody else is on pace
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to get the forty touchdowns. Usually get four or five
guys up over forty. The quarterback play is down across
the board, and and the and the the quarterback ratings
are down. The offense they're producing is down. It's a
weird year in the NFL. So to say, oh, it's
all Marcus Mariota's fault, Tomarrow, it's his Fault's his faul
these things. He stinks. He stinks. No, he's kind of
the league average guy. It's the rest of the play
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in in in the NFL, quarterback is not nearly what
it was. Derek Carr, who was a Pro Bowl quarterback,
the last look, how good Derek Carr. He's gonna be great.
Derek Carr is middle of the pack now, man, I
mean that that's kind of where you are now. All
guys went to I R Yeah, I mean Waller, No Renfro,
Davante Adam saying they paid me to catch the ball.
In other words, throw me the damn ball. That's the
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real story of the year is how bad quarterback plays.
And if you're a fantasy player, you know that already
because you've you've gone from in fantasy. If your quarterback
gets you fifteen points, like, okay, I'll take that because
and that used to be an acceptable week for a
quarterback like ten years ago in fantasy football. Hey you
got me ten, you got me fifteen fantasy points. Okay,
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that's good. And the big quarterbacks who get you twenty now,
you know the last few years you were expecting, Hey,
quarterbacks gotta be over twenty fantasy points, right, You don't
have an elite quarterback if you're not getting at least
only fantasy points a week. You want close to twenty
five big weeks, guys are at thirty. Now you're kind
of back to yeah, fifteen or so fantasy points. Okay,
I'll take that start and try to make it up
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in other places. And and scoring is down. Fantasy scoring
is down. I mean, it's it's that kind of weird
year in the NFL. That's the real story for it. Yeah,
I think when that's been one of one of the
laughing spots of the fantasy world. Right, doing the I
Watch Flex podcast, You're like, Yeah, I predict a big
week for this guy. What does that mean? I don't know.
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I'm hoping he gets to twenty points and wishing at that. Right.
Last week, win a bunch of games with Aaron Rodgers
as my quarterback. That doesn't make any sense, but he
ran for forty yards, so he's still finished with a
nineteen point performance. Uh. You know, and I know we
we bridge back to the real world as it is,
and and we've watched some of our our favorites, some
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of our long time heroes, including Rogers being pedestrian at
best and struggling not just in the trying to find wins,
but just trying to generate any kind of consistent offense. Right.
We've watched it with Matt Stafford now he's in concussion protocol.
We've watched it with Brady. Uh, if you go down
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and go through the metrics because of injuries and some struggles.
You've you've got Justin Herbert's for fantasy purposes, he's the
fourteenth quarterback, right, and just go on down the line
that you haven't seen that ascent all the problems in Arizona.
We could do this all day, all right, last five weeks,
suddenly justin fields because he's running around. Yeah, it's greatness,
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But don't forget about those first few weeks when it
was Wow, they can't complete a forward passed. Now it's
eber Flues and the only guy you were celebrating was
to a tongue of iloa. Right. That's that's really what
what the year became about. Right, Russell Wilson's been trashed,
Matt Ryan got deposed, and just keep going on down
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the line. Daniel Jones, what's he known for? Making plays
with his legs? Hey, guess what he gets to play
Houston this week? They about a hundred eighty rushing yards
per game. Guess what he's doing. So it's that type
of year. And then add the number of teams that,
either through injury circumstances or uncertainty at the quarterback position,
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are are now for the second half of the year
looking like they're gonna try to position themselves to be
at least in the sweepstakes for one of these quarterbacks
coming out of college, and it takes it to a
whole other level. Twitter at about a Fresca Mike has
swollen down the Jason Smith Show with my best friend,
Mike harm And I mean that that that's That's what
what we haven't talked as much about is how down
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the quarterback play is this year. And as I say that,
what happens to Marcus Mariota? He has sacked on fourth
and eighteen. I mean some of these games, it's like
playing NFL blitz. What what is its third and twenty
eight It's fourth and eighteen, you know, an NFL blitz.
It was always first down in thirty. Like, I feel
like that's what we're getting tonight, the entire night. But
look at some of the sacks he's taken tonight. Yeah,
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I mean their offensive line got overmatched and by away
only Matthews had the excuse of his wife having a kid,
uh and then having to come to the game late.
Uh and to get to into town. Uh, you know,
just in time for kickoff at all. Everybody else should
have been ready to play, Yet they got absolutely worked
by wilkeson that defensive front. So congratulations uh, to the
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to the Panthers for coming up with a great game
plan and exposing the fact that if they're not playing
with the lead, Falcons are in trouble. Twitter at how
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Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. Right now, fourth
down and the Panthers do have the football. It looks
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like they got to punt it back to the Falcons,
So the game is not over yet. The Falcons may
get either a crazy uh and you never know, you
never know. Um, they're actually gonna try to kick a
thirty seven yard field goal that would give them a
ten point lead instead of punting, and it looks like
the kick is going to be Oh, he makes it,
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gotten blocked. What do you have? Dial up? Eddie PANNERO
former former Bear legend. That's what I get right here.
I just see it right here. You got a O
L Why how far ahead are you are? Me? Dude?
I told you it was good ten seconds ago. I
just saw it right there. I don't know if you're
telling me the truth. Maybe you're lying to me. I
(27:24):
don't know. Wow. Either way, it's a final, still a
couple of seconds left to go right now, unless the
game is well over and there into the postgame press
conferences that Frostburg is watching. Uh so we'll have more
on this game coming on. Like, just think about that.
How low a level of quarterback play we're getting this season, well,
the league as a whole, but I mean just you know,
(27:45):
because we talked about scoring as a whole, but the
quarterback play. But but just the look too. Seventy two
of greatness and I put greatness in quotes. But but
it's the idea that you know, a lot of these games,
it's the NFL just hoping that they're close in the
fourth quarter. And they have been so for their purposes,
(28:06):
for ratings purposes, for everything else, gambling purposes. Uh, it's
been everything you could want, because there's been enough chaos.
But in terms of the football, I go back to
Brady what was it three weeks ago, and he just says,
I sit and watch and it's a lot of bad football.
And I'm a hundred percent in agreement and have been
the whole time. You can take your parody and stick it.
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He is a Pro Football Hall of Fame voter. He
is on Twitter at least for now. I see a
lot of blue check Maybe he's got a blue check mark.
(28:49):
Maybe do's that he is at Jason Cole sixty two?
It is Jason Cale. What's happened in Jacole? Yeah? I
was talking to he launched about getting that blue check
and getting him to wave to see. You know, we
were just having a personal discussion about it. He just
you know, he doesn't seem he doesn't want to make
a com many exceptions. That's just yeah, that's the thing.
(29:09):
Did he go to cal Is that what happened? I forget?
Where do you go to school? And you're a Stanford guy?
Was like, you is Elon Musk? Elon is in his
own University's probably from the University of Mars, sort of
like Otis is drunk, Which shouldn't we shouldn't we shouldn't
(29:30):
we do? Just like you know, a total analysis of
this Carolina Atlanta game like the ins and outs of it.
You know what it means in the grander scheme of
the history of the game and stuff like that. I mean,
I really think this rank is to seventy two of
to seventy two. That's really the only question. Well, I
don't think it's that bad, but I will say that
(29:52):
it's um. You hear Alt Michael's are in games and
there's these moments where he has these sing signs and
it gets out of bounds for a four yard game
and you just hear it in Al Michael's Boys where
he's like, I'm doing triple A. I'm you know, I'm
I'm doing triple A baseball. That's what I'm doing right now.
(30:14):
You know, I used to cover the grades. I used
to have Tom Brady on a regular You took the check, Michaels,
you took the check. I took This is what happened.
I took the check. And I'm in Albuquerque. I really am.
I'm doing the I'm doing the Albuquerque Dukes. That's what
that's what this is. And we're yeah, we're going up
(30:35):
against the Isotopes or whoever that team is, you know,
the Salt Lake City team whatever they are you know?
But I mean, and I'm a gamer because I'm not
gonna you know, you can hear it in al Michael's ways.
It's like, I'm a gamer. I'm gonna put my best effort.
I'm gonna know who all the players are, and I'm
not gonna like short shrifted, but I'm doing triple A.
(30:57):
I really am. And like there's gonna be a point
where he goes crazy and he calls Goodell at some
point and goes, can you just shift like Billy into
the rotation on Thursday? Can you just do that for me? Please?
One one? One week? I commander commanders in Chicago? Is
(31:18):
that what I mean? What point the Bears figured it out? Man?
And I guess he's ingenious. That's not gonna be in
al Michael's conversation. This is gonna be Mr Goodell, Mr Beezels,
would like to have a conversation with you about Thursday
night football, and then it's gonna be all these off
the wall things. Can we can we have new teams
(31:40):
play on Thursday night? Is that possible? Well, if he
goes comanders, then we can say, like, if I don't
like the teams on Thursday, can you put that game
on another station and give us two other teams. Like
I hear the Cowboys are a very popular team. Can
we have them on Thursday Night? Can we have the Cowboys? Yeah?
That that Cowboy team? Yeah? Like, um, they're good, right?
(32:03):
Can we have Can we have a New York team
occasionally with a big following something like that? What about
what about that Tom Brady guy? Can he? Can he
make an appearance? I know his team is not very
good right now, but can he make an appearance? And
you know, I heard another name in a meeting today,
Kevin What was that name? We said, what was it? What?
La Holmes? Mahomes Mahomes? Get that guy to play? I
(32:23):
hear he's very good. Can we get Patrick Holmes? He's
all of a sudden become French. That's my best. Now
we are playing in Germany so far, which explains that
French mustache that Andy Reid evidently painted on his face
from that State farmat which which is really brilliant. You know.
I I texted Andy Reid last week. I said, every
(32:44):
time I say the commercial, I think you're you're waiting
for your oscar. Oh dude, he's amazing in that commercial.
My wife says, look how natural he is in this commercial.
I said, I know. And he really is so good
in that the man. The man went high school in
Los Angeles with a bunch of actors. He's he's part
of that profession. He's deep into it. There's no question
(33:08):
in my mind. And you can coach football a little bit.
So you got both those things going on. Yeah, can
we do office space? Yeah, do office space? And he
becomes Smikowski in a jump to conclusions doing office that's awesome.
I'm a jump to conclusions. I jump to conclusions. I'm
(33:32):
a people of person alright, So move on from this game,
Jeff Saturday? How can you move on from this game?
How can well? I blinked. That was about as much
time as we needn't give, as much as I want
to celebrate Dante Foreman and his ability to run for
more yards than either quarterback through for in this game. Uh,
(33:54):
Jeff Saturday and the Colts, what happens if they beat
the Raiders? Have to say, what was Marcus Marriott throwing
the ball over his head as he's landing on his
ass is the best play of the season. This may
not have been the worst game of the year. But
that's the best play of the season because it's like
(34:15):
a defining moment of his career. It's like Mark Sanchez
with the butt fumball, you know, Jake Plummer throwing a
ball left handed, Like this is where you just look
and go, you really can't play, you really hate you
really can't do this. You're not You cannot be trusted
to run a team. Sorry, Markets, it's officially over. You
(34:38):
can last at the backup, and you may start for
a bad team, but you will never play on a
team that has championship aspiration. It just cannot happen. No
coach will ever trust you after that, Jason Smith, show
my Marcus Marriott his career. Yeah, you're not gonna You're
(35:00):
not going to be his presenter when he's up for
the Hall of Fame. That's for that's for sure. No,
I'm not really, I'm not concerned about that one, and
the Hall of Fame is not enter and not concerned
about that one either. That that one they may let
me off the hook on that one. That may the
one that will definitely not be the one that gets
me banned. So let me ask you this now, is
(35:20):
it a league wide conspiracy seeing how bad the Buccaneers
are to make sure they win the division to get
the playoffs no matter what that everybody else is going
to be even worse in the NFC South. That's a
conspiracy theory. Like you didn't just look at the teams
and go, let's see here because Bakerman Field, I got
(35:46):
Marcus Mariotta. We started the season with Jamis Winston. Now
we're gonna down and Dalton. Yes, like the league had
to combine to force those teams to do that. They
didn't just do it on their own, right the league somehow,
I mean like like it's just it's an absolute train wreck.
It's you know, it's this and it's amazing because the division,
(36:09):
like what three years ago was maybe the best in
in all the league right now it's and now it's
just a disaster. Um, it's probably gotta be a disaster
for a while unless somebody comes up with a quarterback
really fast. Um. But yeah, and this is Camp's are
going to get in and man could big to seven
(36:32):
and ten and get in the playoffs, that would be
fantastic seven and ten And in the playoffs, Fisher who
would be piste. Yeah, seven and ten could have you
clinched before do we get December? Hey, you get a
home game? Who would be more? Who would be more
ticked off? Would be Jeff Fisher or Eric Dickerson. No,
(36:54):
Jeff Fisher would be because he's the guy getting made
fun of for going seven and nine and now seven
and tends a half game better. And and you guys
hunting him down to get him fired too. I mean,
you guys went on, you know, you chased them down
to get him fired. Well, really, all we had to
do is get Eric Dickerson on the show that night,
and that that was kind of it. I asked like
(37:14):
two questions that just wound him up, and that was it.
Here's the lafter. All, thank you, that's it, Lob don't
and away we go. All right, let's get back to that.
Another topic I brought up the Indianapolis colt. What what
what's the scuttle butt? And obviously we've to dissected. But
behind the scenes people you're talking to, what are they
(37:34):
taken away from this? Jim Er, same move behind Come on,
they're the same same thing that everybody else. Okay, you know,
like I texted two coaches within five minutes and one
said simply like this is just proof that ownership, that
some people in ownership have no clue what it takes
to do this job. And the other way I did
(37:57):
did a like a tongue in cheek response to, yeah,
I guess doing this job is as easy as all
those radio and TV people think. You know, we'll see
how it goes for him. I wish him all the best,
that kind of thing. And it just disgusted because guys
work so hard to work their way up the ladder
for a chance. Right when we have like six hundred
(38:17):
and fifty guys coach in the league, you know, you know,
over six hundred of tomorrow assistant coaches, and they work
really hard to try and work their way up a lot.
And not that I feel sorry for him, you know,
they have did fun jobs and stuff. But all of
a sudden, this former player who happens to work as
you know, who happens had the ear of the owner,
(38:39):
which is a key thing. You know, if you're the
guy sitting next to the owner talking to him, you're
usually the most powerful guy. It's like, hey, you don't
give it a try, you got it. You can do this.
And he's stepping into a room with a bunch of
assistant coaches who are looking going, seriously, you got the
job and not me mean there's quality control guys who
(39:02):
we're probably looking at this going wait a sec. I'm
and I've been like sleeping on you know, sleeping on
the sofa and the assistance office until three o'clock, you know,
and after staying up until three o'clock in the morning
breaking down tape, and this guy just walks in and
gets another chance. Now, look, Je Saturday is a really
(39:24):
smart guy, and who knows he may have the qualifications
to be a great head coach, he just hasn't earned it.
He really truly hasn't earned it in any way, shape
or force. So nobody's going to really truly respect him
in the game. And lets he does something substantial. And
here's the problem he's got sam Elan nears his quarterback.
(39:48):
What's really going to happen here over the last part
of the season. Come on, we all know, well now
we'll see that. Now you're now you're just killing my buzz,
because after this week I thought maybe it's some really
have any buzz? Don't why you were killing my buzz
because I said that, hey, if stick if he if
(40:11):
he no, no, because if he gets if he gets
plucked out of the booth to go coach a team.
You know, Woody Johnson could listen to the show and think, hey,
Jason knows what he's talking about. It. I could have
been the next jet said coach, now you're killing you.
Tell me it's not gonna happen for me. Now my
dreams are out the window. Thanks for nothing. I don't
even know how to respond to that, just like I'm
(40:34):
dumbfounded by the concept of although I think that it
might be one of the most entertaining things ever to
see you within a headset marching up and down the
sideline during a game, and like you'd be saying over
the heads my best friend and that he was hearing
stuff like that, and everybody goes, is that a call
or what is it? Yeah, it's the call, it's my
(40:55):
best friend, And then can we take any callers? Like
you would go into the stands and would say, a fireman,
at what's your thoughts on the next play? Came? What
should we do? Come on, come on, man, go into
the stands. He'd be my offensive coordinator. What do you
that go into the stands? You be standing right next
to me, into on your shoulders. Every week they'd be
(41:16):
like one of those radio contest. This collar gets to
be the DC this week. He's on Twitter at jameson Question.
If you tweet us out enough times, you could be
up in the booth in the coach's box this week.
That's going with the Jets. The Jet Now, the Jets
(41:43):
were my favorite story this week because they get great
upset over Buffalo, right, and then like Sali comes up
and says, yeah, I really told you know, Zach Wilson,
you know, just you know, just keep it under control,
just you know, don't don't you don't have to do
too much. You don't have in other words, to stay
out of the way. The rest of this team is
(42:05):
pretty good. Don't screw it up. Tak it easy, buddy.
We'll talk to you next year. J Cole Later, guys,
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Hey blank, you Vito well, and then he got and
then he got the name of the show wrong. So
like that, let's have fun. Let's joke you Jokerson. I
(00:44):
have a deal that's wrong. Listen. I'm sorry if you
guys are upset, but you guys want to make fun.
You want to make fun of me the last few nights. Well,
this is how you have to pay. Oh wait a second,
you have something to do with this open I had
everything to do with that open. Well, then thank you two. Well, then, uh,
it's been good knowing you. They're in breach of contract
(01:05):
and I'm leaving. How is the breach of contract that
changed the name of the show. That's not the legal
show name. It just said, it just said a name.
No no, no, no, no no. It's very specific. It's
very very specific things. Yeah, I just learned heard the
Jason Smith Show with my car and I heard that there, No,
(01:25):
I heard that. I think he said. I heard that
that that Frostberg is always off, highly problematic. I heard
the Jason Smith Show with my attorneys will be in touch.
I'm sorry. The Chargers are in contention at five and
three and Ricky here in Trouble Talker back Sunday Night Games.
I'm sorry there, Vito, your producers off. There's gonna be
(01:49):
a brawl in the always because of a show open.
I've never heard that before. I'm gonna walk into his
office now and kick his ass. Oh you know this
conversation right any trumpets stuff into that. I mean this
conversation right now. This is exactly what goes on in
the hallways of Twitter right now. This is exactly that's
(02:10):
how that's how they're talking. Can you believe all this?
Can you believe this? Can you believe we have to
do this? Can you believe we're gonna get fired if
we don't show up to work in person? Can you believe?
Uh like I said, hey, Twitter has gone from the
wild West to the mad Hatter's Tea Party. That that's
exactly what you can find me on Instagram. That swollen
and now it is the mad Hatter's Tea Party. Whatever
(02:31):
happens happened. Although Meta's fire in a bunch of folks too,
So maybe the starts to go walkyorld. But looklet's start
my own place. I don't know if if if metal
World Peace started his own uh social I don't know
what I joined it. I don't know. Last time we
heard him, he came on the show, told us he
was writing erotic science fiction. Yes he did. That's the
last we heard from from metal World in his name
(02:54):
at that point too. He might have he might have,
but yeah, but I mean, I mean clear today. Look,
Jesus Christ was verified. That's true. I mean even he paid.
I'll tell you what, man, I saw a lot of
stuff hit his sum Man given folks propensity to just
hit retweet and go oh my god as they do.
(03:14):
So there's there's a lot of hell fire. Good question, Yeah,
go ahead. How does the guy pay eight bucks? Uh? Well,
he's back, He's supposed to come back. Now he's back.
Didn't you see him on family guy? Is he with
win or with wout? Didn't you see the tweet what
has two thumbs and is verified this guy? I saw
(03:35):
someone at a had a picture from a thrift store
the other day and they go, I didn't think i'd
see thirst trapped Jesus and on the wall, and it's
like you would do the best filter on your Instagram
photos there following for us. I don't know, they'd probably
(03:57):
get that account right now and get that Jesus. There's
that Jesus right be what the finals are coming up?
You know? So pretty? You pay eight bucks? I don't know.
I'll save that eight bucks for for other endeavors. It is, uh,
it is, It is absolutely that. I mean it is
the Mad Hatter's Tea party on Twitter right now. Look
(04:18):
yesterday it was the beginning of all the false reports. Right,
Josh McDaniels was fake fired on Twitter by Adam Schefter.
Right today? What was it? A drug company announces we're
giving away and then it was no, no, no, that's
not us. You know that was a fake account. We're
not giving away insulin for free. I mean, that's it's
it's Mad Hatters tea party, I walk up going through
(04:41):
the right, going through the rabbit hole when you get
on Twitter, now, I mean, I don't know what to expect.
Every time I get on on there during the day,
when I see things I really don't know, I'm like,
what what is today going to bring? What are we
gonna have? Right? I have no idea, I'll click let
me see. It's like I'm being surprised. Well, it's funny
because it's just been such a part of what we do,
right to say, dominating information back and forth to each other.
(05:02):
Is this value? Look at this? This is kind of
crazy obviously, the news of the weird, all of those things,
And now it's the trepidation of one wasting my time
altogether because what I find I then have to do
a deep dive to figure out whether it's a legit,
a count or not. Like and they weren't the extra clicks.
(05:23):
So I found myself going back to just good old
fashioned blogs and verifying the uh H T t p
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world is falling apart on Twitter right now. We have
another in a long line of great TNF games, except
not at all. Uh. In a driving rain storm in Carolina.
The Panthers lead the Falcons thirteen three. Midway through the
(06:06):
third quarter. Leaviska Shenault the only touchdown of the game
of forty one yard touchdown run, and this has the
Panthers out with the lead over the Falcons. One of
the big story lines in this game coming in and
I get it, I understand, and I want to say
great things and I want to talk about how good
he's played. Uh, Marcus Mariota, who up until tonight has
(06:26):
had a pretty good season. Tonight not so much. But uh,
there is the rain to consider. But they're not throwing
the ball a lot. They're trying to, They're just they're
just not having a night. Well, it's it's proven that
he can't throw the ball. I mean that. And that
is the one thing you've seen here on opportunities and
it's why defensive backs or defensive backs. Something I've been
saying on this show since we started here, like there's
(06:49):
a really big reason. Uh, he should have like nine
interceptions tonight. He just missed a wide open Kyle Pitts
who had a defender probably twelve yards off him and
just overshot him full out. He's not gotten rid of
the ball on his scrambles at one point, just stepping
out of bounds, Like, really, what are we doing here?
He's he's he's had at he's had an okay season, right,
(07:13):
But to think that he's Geno Smith, he's not right.
He's he's someone that honestly things I never thought I'd say,
Marcus Mariota, as as nice as he is, he is
not Geno Smith. Don't don't don't come in here with
that Geno Smith slander that suddenly other guys are played
as good as Gino is. Now. Look, Marcus Mariota has
(07:35):
been okay, he's been a he's been a decent bridge quarterback,
and he's really what you want in a backup, right,
a guy that can come in, can play a little bit,
and maybe your team doesn't go to hell if he
has to play. But let's be honest here. I mean,
if you're going back to the beginning of the season
knowing what you know. Now, if you're the Falcons, don't
you make an effort to try to get Jimmy Garoppolo
(07:58):
or somebody else, because if you just had like decent
like I would say decent because Mariotte has been decent,
if you had average quarterback play slightly you know, just
around average quarterback, I mean, you might have a two
or three game lead in this division because the foul
and look, this division is awful, and the Falcon sitting
in first place, but now they're gonna fall out of
(08:18):
first place. In the Carolina Panthers are gonna win their
third game and they're gonna be a They're gonna be
a half game out of first place. Uh. If you
just had a you know, a quarterback that was in
the middle of the pack, you might be leading this
division by a couple of games. You. Hey, we're a playoff.
We made that move from Matt Ryan and we're feeling
pretty good about where we are right now. Yeah. Just
and and just as we mock him, Uh, there's a
(08:41):
touchdown pass to Drake London. Uh, extra point pending. The
running games started to get going, but you've lost a
couple of close games. Uh, coming into tonight ten touchdowns
against six picks, averaging about a hundred seventy three passing
yards a game, but has been affected with his legs.
And as we talk out all the time, you know
you you adopted and adapt your squad to to what
(09:05):
the efficiencies and where your strengths are. And we know
that with the run game, they've got three guys. Cordell
Pattison what finally found his role, right, the guy that
was special teams and electric at times. Bears tried to
figure out how to adapt and improve his uh snap
count by bringing him in as a wide receiver. That
didn't work. Well, Um, yeah, that's the Bears. So they
(09:29):
didn't figure it out there and we're a couple of
offensive coordinators and coaches since then. But as a running back,
he was fantastic last year. The durability obviously a concern,
but you have two other capable backs, the rookie all
year and and Huntley. Uh that you've been you've been
able to do some some big things on the ground,
and so you're you're in these ball games time and again.
(09:52):
Defense has stood up, uh better than then you would
have anticipated. And in some of these games and narrow losses.
We talked out the one um against the Chargers from Sunday,
every opportunity to win. It said, here, take this victory.
I mean, if you told me in August, Jason, you
(10:12):
guys gonna do a show in December, Okay, great, and
and it it's gonna be a very controversial open that
that Mike and Frostbur are gonna be upset by and say, okay, yeah,
that'll probably happen. And you're going to say thank you
as decent as he's been well that that Frostburg is
gonna say blank you Yeah, okay, what else is new?
As decent as he's been. Marcus Mariotta is no Geno Smith.
I would say this is like an alternate Earth. It's
(10:35):
I'm on one of those other Earth planets. I'm not
on this one. What do you mean, Marcus Mariotta is
no Gino Smith? What the hell is wrong with you?
How do you think that I'm not gonna say that
in December? Oh no, no, hey, open the show, fastball
right down the middle. Marcus Mariotta is no Gino Smith.
Don't try to mix these two together and say that,
oh yeah, these are two guys that jump started their career. No, no, no,
(10:57):
Marcus Mariota is gonna get replaced after this year. Ge
know Smith is gonna get a contract extension something. It's
gonna be. We gotta lock up Gino. We gotta pay
him before somebody else is gonna want Gino to go
get him. And you're gonna see Seattle Seahawks say, we
are happy to give Geno Smith a two year, forty
five million dollar contract with forty million dollars of it guaranteed.
We are really happy with everything he has done for
(11:18):
this team. These are things I did not think I
would say in August, and I would have said you
were crazy, But here we are. But that's the beauty
of it. For the second time this week, you get
to tie Gino Smith to one of the big stories
that isn't his in the National Football League and then
see how many people follow the breadcrumbs and you come
jumping along for those takes on a Friday morning. So
(11:39):
that's a fun thought experiment. But you go through they
lost both games to the l A team's total of
seven points Tampa Bay at one fifteen loss. No, it's
not like they're blowing teams out in a lot of
these other game, the one point loss to to the Saints.
Going back to Week one, It's been an interesting year
(11:59):
for the Falcons. To your point, Yeah, a better quarterback,
more efficient quarterbacks. Certainly Kyle Pitts and Drake London owners
have been waiting for that all year. Uh and here
you got pits, Like I said, opportunities and he missed
him and then he ends up throwing a beautiful ball
to to London to cap off the drive here in
the middle of the end zone. So run games starting
(12:20):
to find its way. Kicking game, however, has not. And
I gotta say those Panthers helmets, they really made me
want to change my pick because I picked the Falcons
to win the game, thought on the helmet too much
and then boom, there you go twitter at how about
a Fresca Mike at Swollen Dome And the touchdown by
(12:42):
Drake London makes it thirteen nine. However, young Wai Coup
misses the extra point, his first miss in seventy two
extra point attempts, make the game thirteen nine. Now Panthers
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Well coming up next, left more on this game. Got
a Big Bowl prediction coming your way. And speaking of
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Bowl predictions, how about we get your cooking here on
a Thursday night. Since we are basically at the midway
point of the NFL season, you have a lot of
people looking back at the first who's the m v
P after the first nine weeks? How about Austin Ekeler?
Is he's right there? Sure, he's right there. Sauce Gardener
is right there. Absolutely, he holds too much and it
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doesn't know you know why he doesn't hold because they
don't throw their flag. They don't throw the flat of
his hands in that holding position, it's not holding if
they don't throw. They just don't. During Super Bowl week
when they're not in it, and he comes to radio Row,
I'll be sitting there with the plaster set. It's like
what are you gonna do? Hey, while you while we
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do this interview, I'm gonna need you to put your
hands like you know, you think he's really going to
talk to you. Sauce Gardener is gonna talk You kidding?
I'm gonna come. Absolutely, that's the one guy. Are you kidding?
I'm gonna walk in with all kinds of tabasco? Hey,
could you sign this? Could you sign? No? Could you sign?
This is barbecue for the Jet? Can you sign this?
He's gonna sign everything the Jets. Be sure to catch
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live editions of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon
weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio. Ah app Oh,
I see what you mean there where they open with
with the name. I see what you mean there? Now,
I see what you mean there with the name with
the name in the end, you still wanted us to
play it? Now, I'm pretty sure you requested it. I
I don't think I requested that. I think Alex Heisher
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said hey, the new open is coming up, and I said,
oh good, let's hear it again. That's all I throw
the because that's exactly how it happened. That's exactly how
I pawned for the review. No, that's exactly how it went,
as the guy who went behind our backs and made it.
You think I know how to edit something like that,
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don't make this for me? McRib Is that how I
talk is good? I think talks like that. You sound
like my dad trying to do an impression of people. Dad,
how is your day today? Oh? Man? I got into
it with one of the checkout counter at Pavilions. What happened?
And he says, I said to the guy, here's my coupon.
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The guy said, whoa, we're not checking the coupon And
I said, but I haven't. I cut it out of
the paper. Well, I gotta check with my manager. I
got check your manager. Like everybody my dad talks about has.
That's a pretty good impersonation of yourself. That's what's what
he does. Dad. Now my head is spinning with all
the different accents. It's it's spinning and spinning. It's uh,
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So let me with speaking of throwing people under the bus.
If we wind up getting overtime in this craptastic TNFDA
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between the Panthers and the Falcons, it's mine and Frostburg's fault. Okay,
it's mine and Frostburg's fault. Because before we started the show,
Open came in and Frostburg I said, hey, is Jason Cole,
you know our big NFL guests we have on all
the Time magazine. Is he coming on after the game?
He goes, yeah, he's coming on after the game, and
Frostburg says, well, there's because there's not gonna be any
overtime because the score was twenty two to nine. And
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then as soon as he said there's not gonna be overtime,
the Falcon score a touchdown and I said, yeah, but
if kum miss is an extra point here, it's a
seven point lead with two and a half minutes left
to go, we could get overtime. What happens, young wayku
miss is another extra point. So it's twenty two fifteen
with two forty six left to go, we could still
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get over time in this game. And it's our fault
because he gets fired down another one. Uh who Frostburger
Cole Young? Oh yeah, well like he was by the
Chargers back in the day or whatever. But I mean,
who's a who's a really good kicker? Now, I mean
he wasn't, but Arthur Smith looked like he was going
to charge the field, yeah and tackle him. Yeah. Up,
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he was an enraged fan taking the field ex Charger.
Now good. Well, here's the thing, depending on how this
game ends, because it would be two seventeen, so they
would still need a field, you know more, don't forget
that field goalie miss before right, Yeah, guys missfield. Well's
it's a driving rainstorm, you know, it's not. It's not
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his to T P T s though. Man, Yeah, that's
what I mean. The p A T S A what
you have to count you have to talk about. Hey, Jason,
don't try and put this evil on me. Ricky Bobby,
you're the you're the you're the one who said it
Walker and Texas crap. You know who's fault it is.
It's Arthur blank Fall for coming down to the sideline
with five minutes left in the game. Don't blame me.
That's got to be really annoying. You look over your shoulder.
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There he is. He's right at his his personal assistant
or whoever that is wandering with. It was like step
eyeballing me. I got a game to finish. Don't say anything.
The owner is right behind you. What. Oh wow? Okay, alright, alright,
don't say anything. Don't mention how we went out in
the back and drank beer on our break last week.
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I don't want to get fired. Okay, wow, you you
almost had a gift at midfield. Actually it would have
been about the thirty yard line. But once again defensive
backs can't catch as p J Walker and makes a
truly inexplicable decision that ball should have been taken back
to the house. That shouldn't even have been just an interception.
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But falling down and down he goes near interception by
the Falcons. But they do get the football back. Still
with a little bit over two minutes have to go,
they are a touchdown away from sending this all over time.
And of course what do they do. They run the
football they tried with two and a half minutes left
to go, Let's run the football that has been their
bread and butter all season. So yeah, but you gotta
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throw the football. There's two and a half minutes left
to go. You gotta throw it. You think he'll be
as open as Hodge was on that touchdown pass before
this This game, this game is just so craptastic. Man,
I can't even tell you. Oh, Mariota gets sacked. It's third,
do you know? You know, let's get into this here
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for a couple of secons, because this is this is
a good time to get and talk about the quarterback
play here tonight, because Marcus Mariota is the number one
trending topic on Twitter. He is having a really bad game.
And Marcus Mariota, for the most part this season, has
enjoyed pretty good publicity for being someone who, hey, look
at him, he's not terrible and jobs get out of
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the way. Yeah, well, Cooper Rush at least won a
few more games like he was he was four and
to Marcus Mariota is gonna be four and six. But
you know, he's he generally has generated pretty good reviews.
I mean, he's not Geno Smith, which is something I
never thought i'd say in December, But overall, I get
now the oh my god, Marcus Mariota stinks. Right, everybody
on social media, this guy's terrible. This is two really
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bad games in a row. He had a horrible game
against the Chargers last week. They could have potentially won
that game. Another horrible game now, but he was coming
off of three big games before that. I understand the
Marcus Mariota stinks. What are we doing bringing Desmond Rider?
I understand that. But that's not the real story because
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this year, Mariota is an NFL average quarterback. You look
at all his metrics, he's about and he's about the
between the fourteenth and sixteen seventeen rated quarterback in the NFL. Right,
He's having the same kind of year, just almost the
same kind of year as Kirk Cousins, Right, maybe a
little bit better than Daniel Jones. I mean, he's at
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the league average. It's not like Marcus Mariota is the
rated quarterback in the NFL. He's Kenny Pickett. He's throwing
two touchdowns and nine interceptions, and we don't know what's
going on. He has been a league average quarterback. The
real story of the year is vil cow Down. The
quarterback play is across the league this season. Great great
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quarterback play is not what we're getting. We're getting very
very good quarterback play, but the levels we were at
the last couple of years, forget it, nothing close to
this year. We might not even see a quarterback with
forty touchdowns this year for the first time in four years. Right,
I don't know anybody. My Mahomes may get to forty.
All right, he's a twenty one right now with the
extra game. But everybody else, nobody else is on pace
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to get the forty touchdowns. Usually get four or five
guys up over forty. The quarterback play is down across
the board, and and the and the the quarterback ratings
are down. The offense they're producing is down. It's a
weird year in the NFL. So to say, oh, it's
all Marcus Mariota's fault, Tomarrow, it's his Fault's his faul
these things. He stinks. He stinks. No, he's kind of
the league average guy. It's the rest of the play
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in in in the NFL, quarterback is not nearly what
it was. Derek Carr, who was a Pro Bowl quarterback,
the last look, how good Derek Carr. He's gonna be great.
Derek Carr is middle of the pack now, man, I
mean that that's kind of where you are now. All
guys went to I R Yeah, I mean Waller, No Renfro,
Davante Adam saying they paid me to catch the ball.
In other words, throw me the damn ball. That's the
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real story of the year is how bad quarterback plays.
And if you're a fantasy player, you know that already
because you've you've gone from in fantasy. If your quarterback
gets you fifteen points, like, okay, I'll take that because
and that used to be an acceptable week for a
quarterback like ten years ago in fantasy football. Hey you
got me ten, you got me fifteen fantasy points. Okay,
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that's good. And the big quarterbacks who get you twenty now,
you know the last few years you were expecting, Hey,
quarterbacks gotta be over twenty fantasy points, right, You don't
have an elite quarterback if you're not getting at least
only fantasy points a week. You want close to twenty
five big weeks, guys are at thirty. Now you're kind
of back to yeah, fifteen or so fantasy points. Okay,
I'll take that start and try to make it up
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in other places. And and scoring is down. Fantasy scoring
is down. I mean, it's it's that kind of weird
year in the NFL. That's the real story for it. Yeah,
I think when that's been one of one of the
laughing spots of the fantasy world. Right, doing the I
Watch Flex podcast, You're like, Yeah, I predict a big
week for this guy. What does that mean? I don't know.
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I'm hoping he gets to twenty points and wishing at that. Right.
Last week, win a bunch of games with Aaron Rodgers
as my quarterback. That doesn't make any sense, but he
ran for forty yards, so he's still finished with a
nineteen point performance. Uh. You know, and I know we
we bridge back to the real world as it is,
and and we've watched some of our our favorites, some
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of our long time heroes, including Rogers being pedestrian at
best and struggling not just in the trying to find wins,
but just trying to generate any kind of consistent offense. Right.
We've watched it with Matt Stafford now he's in concussion protocol.
We've watched it with Brady. Uh, if you go down
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and go through the metrics because of injuries and some struggles.
You've you've got Justin Herbert's for fantasy purposes, he's the
fourteenth quarterback, right, and just go on down the line
that you haven't seen that ascent all the problems in Arizona.
We could do this all day, all right, last five weeks,
suddenly justin fields because he's running around. Yeah, it's greatness,
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But don't forget about those first few weeks when it
was Wow, they can't complete a forward passed. Now it's
eber Flues and the only guy you were celebrating was
to a tongue of iloa. Right. That's that's really what
what the year became about. Right, Russell Wilson's been trashed,
Matt Ryan got deposed, and just keep going on down
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the line. Daniel Jones, what's he known for? Making plays
with his legs? Hey, guess what he gets to play
Houston this week? They about a hundred eighty rushing yards
per game. Guess what he's doing. So it's that type
of year. And then add the number of teams that,
either through injury circumstances or uncertainty at the quarterback position,
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are are now for the second half of the year
looking like they're gonna try to position themselves to be
at least in the sweepstakes for one of these quarterbacks
coming out of college, and it takes it to a
whole other level. Twitter at about a Fresca Mike has
swollen down the Jason Smith Show with my best friend,
Mike harm And I mean that that that's That's what
what we haven't talked as much about is how down
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the quarterback play is this year. And as I say that,
what happens to Marcus Mariota? He has sacked on fourth
and eighteen. I mean some of these games, it's like
playing NFL blitz. What what is its third and twenty
eight It's fourth and eighteen, you know, an NFL blitz.
It was always first down in thirty. Like, I feel
like that's what we're getting tonight, the entire night. But
look at some of the sacks he's taken tonight. Yeah,
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I mean their offensive line got overmatched and by away
only Matthews had the excuse of his wife having a kid,
uh and then having to come to the game late.
Uh and to get to into town. Uh, you know,
just in time for kickoff at all. Everybody else should
have been ready to play, Yet they got absolutely worked
by wilkeson that defensive front. So congratulations uh, to the
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to the Panthers for coming up with a great game
plan and exposing the fact that if they're not playing
with the lead, Falcons are in trouble. Twitter at how
about a fresca Mike has swollen down the Jason Smith
Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. Right now, fourth
down and the Panthers do have the football. It looks
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like they got to punt it back to the Falcons,
So the game is not over yet. The Falcons may
get either a crazy uh and you never know, you
never know. Um, they're actually gonna try to kick a
thirty seven yard field goal that would give them a
ten point lead instead of punting, and it looks like
the kick is going to be Oh, he makes it,
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gotten blocked. What do you have? Dial up? Eddie PANNERO
former former Bear legend. That's what I get right here.
I just see it right here. You got a O
L Why how far ahead are you are? Me? Dude?
I told you it was good ten seconds ago. I
just saw it right there. I don't know if you're
telling me the truth. Maybe you're lying to me. I
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don't know. Wow. Either way, it's a final, still a
couple of seconds left to go right now, unless the
game is well over and there into the postgame press
conferences that Frostburg is watching. Uh so we'll have more
on this game coming on. Like, just think about that.
How low a level of quarterback play we're getting this season, well,
the league as a whole, but I mean just you know,
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because we talked about scoring as a whole, but the
quarterback play. But but just the look too. Seventy two
of greatness and I put greatness in quotes. But but
it's the idea that you know, a lot of these games,
it's the NFL just hoping that they're close in the
fourth quarter. And they have been so for their purposes,
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for ratings purposes, for everything else, gambling purposes. Uh, it's
been everything you could want, because there's been enough chaos.
But in terms of the football, I go back to
Brady what was it three weeks ago, and he just says,
I sit and watch and it's a lot of bad football.
And I'm a hundred percent in agreement and have been
the whole time. You can take your parody and stick it.
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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He is a Pro Football Hall of Fame voter. He
is on Twitter at least for now. I see a
lot of blue check Maybe he's got a blue check mark.
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Maybe do's that he is at Jason Cole sixty two?
It is Jason Cale. What's happened in Jacole? Yeah? I
was talking to he launched about getting that blue check
and getting him to wave to see. You know, we
were just having a personal discussion about it. He just
you know, he doesn't seem he doesn't want to make
a com many exceptions. That's just yeah, that's the thing.
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Did he go to cal Is that what happened? I forget?
Where do you go to school? And you're a Stanford guy?
Was like, you is Elon Musk? Elon is in his
own University's probably from the University of Mars, sort of
like Otis is drunk, Which shouldn't we shouldn't we shouldn't
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we do? Just like you know, a total analysis of
this Carolina Atlanta game like the ins and outs of it.
You know what it means in the grander scheme of
the history of the game and stuff like that. I mean,
I really think this rank is to seventy two of
to seventy two. That's really the only question. Well, I
don't think it's that bad, but I will say that
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it's um. You hear Alt Michael's are in games and
there's these moments where he has these sing signs and
it gets out of bounds for a four yard game
and you just hear it in Al Michael's Boys where
he's like, I'm doing triple A. I'm you know, I'm
I'm doing triple A baseball. That's what I'm doing right now.
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You know, I used to cover the grades. I used
to have Tom Brady on a regular You took the check, Michaels,
you took the check. I took This is what happened.
I took the check. And I'm in Albuquerque. I really am.
I'm doing the I'm doing the Albuquerque Dukes. That's what
that's what this is. And we're yeah, we're going up
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against the Isotopes or whoever that team is, you know,
the Salt Lake City team whatever they are you know?
But I mean, and I'm a gamer because I'm not
gonna you know, you can hear it in al Michael's ways.
It's like, I'm a gamer. I'm gonna put my best effort.
I'm gonna know who all the players are, and I'm
not gonna like short shrifted, but I'm doing triple A.
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I really am. And like there's gonna be a point
where he goes crazy and he calls Goodell at some
point and goes, can you just shift like Billy into
the rotation on Thursday? Can you just do that for me? Please?
One one? One week? I commander commanders in Chicago? Is
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that what I mean? What point the Bears figured it out? Man?
And I guess he's ingenious. That's not gonna be in
al Michael's conversation. This is gonna be Mr Goodell, Mr Beezels,
would like to have a conversation with you about Thursday
night football, and then it's gonna be all these off
the wall things. Can we can we have new teams
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play on Thursday night? Is that possible? Well, if he
goes comanders, then we can say, like, if I don't
like the teams on Thursday, can you put that game
on another station and give us two other teams. Like
I hear the Cowboys are a very popular team. Can
we have them on Thursday Night? Can we have the Cowboys? Yeah?
That that Cowboy team? Yeah? Like, um, they're good, right?
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Can we have Can we have a New York team
occasionally with a big following something like that? What about
what about that Tom Brady guy? Can he? Can he
make an appearance? I know his team is not very
good right now, but can he make an appearance? And
you know, I heard another name in a meeting today,
Kevin What was that name? We said, what was it? What?
La Holmes? Mahomes Mahomes? Get that guy to play? I
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hear he's very good. Can we get Patrick Holmes? He's
all of a sudden become French. That's my best. Now
we are playing in Germany so far, which explains that
French mustache that Andy Reid evidently painted on his face
from that State farmat which which is really brilliant. You know.
I I texted Andy Reid last week. I said, every
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time I say the commercial, I think you're you're waiting
for your oscar. Oh dude, he's amazing in that commercial.
My wife says, look how natural he is in this commercial.
I said, I know. And he really is so good
in that the man. The man went high school in
Los Angeles with a bunch of actors. He's he's part
of that profession. He's deep into it. There's no question
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in my mind. And you can coach football a little bit.
So you got both those things going on. Yeah, can
we do office space? Yeah, do office space? And he
becomes Smikowski in a jump to conclusions doing office that's awesome.
I'm a jump to conclusions. I jump to conclusions. I'm
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a people of person alright, So move on from this game,
Jeff Saturday? How can you move on from this game?
How can well? I blinked. That was about as much
time as we needn't give, as much as I want
to celebrate Dante Foreman and his ability to run for
more yards than either quarterback through for in this game. Uh,
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Jeff Saturday and the Colts, what happens if they beat
the Raiders? Have to say, what was Marcus Marriott throwing
the ball over his head as he's landing on his
ass is the best play of the season. This may
not have been the worst game of the year. But
that's the best play of the season because it's like
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a defining moment of his career. It's like Mark Sanchez
with the butt fumball, you know, Jake Plummer throwing a
ball left handed, Like this is where you just look
and go, you really can't play, you really hate you
really can't do this. You're not You cannot be trusted
to run a team. Sorry, Markets, it's officially over. You
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can last at the backup, and you may start for
a bad team, but you will never play on a
team that has championship aspiration. It just cannot happen. No
coach will ever trust you after that, Jason Smith, show
my Marcus Marriott his career. Yeah, you're not gonna You're
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not going to be his presenter when he's up for
the Hall of Fame. That's for that's for sure. No,
I'm not really, I'm not concerned about that one, and
the Hall of Fame is not enter and not concerned
about that one either. That that one they may let
me off the hook on that one. That may the
one that will definitely not be the one that gets
me banned. So let me ask you this now, is
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it a league wide conspiracy seeing how bad the Buccaneers
are to make sure they win the division to get
the playoffs no matter what that everybody else is going
to be even worse in the NFC South. That's a
conspiracy theory. Like you didn't just look at the teams
and go, let's see here because Bakerman Field, I got
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Marcus Mariotta. We started the season with Jamis Winston. Now
we're gonna down and Dalton. Yes, like the league had
to combine to force those teams to do that. They
didn't just do it on their own, right the league somehow,
I mean like like it's just it's an absolute train wreck.
It's you know, it's this and it's amazing because the division,
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like what three years ago was maybe the best in
in all the league right now it's and now it's
just a disaster. Um, it's probably gotta be a disaster
for a while unless somebody comes up with a quarterback
really fast. Um. But yeah, and this is Camp's are
going to get in and man could big to seven
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and ten and get in the playoffs, that would be
fantastic seven and ten And in the playoffs, Fisher who
would be piste. Yeah, seven and ten could have you
clinched before do we get December? Hey, you get a
home game? Who would be more? Who would be more
ticked off? Would be Jeff Fisher or Eric Dickerson. No,
(36:54):
Jeff Fisher would be because he's the guy getting made
fun of for going seven and nine and now seven
and tends a half game better. And and you guys
hunting him down to get him fired too. I mean,
you guys went on, you know, you chased them down
to get him fired. Well, really, all we had to
do is get Eric Dickerson on the show that night,
and that that was kind of it. I asked like
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two questions that just wound him up, and that was it.
Here's the lafter. All, thank you, that's it, Lob don't
and away we go. All right, let's get back to that.
Another topic I brought up the Indianapolis colt. What what
what's the scuttle butt? And obviously we've to dissected. But
behind the scenes people you're talking to, what are they
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taken away from this? Jim Er, same move behind Come on,
they're the same same thing that everybody else. Okay, you know,
like I texted two coaches within five minutes and one
said simply like this is just proof that ownership, that
some people in ownership have no clue what it takes
to do this job. And the other way I did
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did a like a tongue in cheek response to, yeah,
I guess doing this job is as easy as all
those radio and TV people think. You know, we'll see
how it goes for him. I wish him all the best,
that kind of thing. And it just disgusted because guys
work so hard to work their way up the ladder
for a chance. Right when we have like six hundred
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and fifty guys coach in the league, you know, you know,
over six hundred of tomorrow assistant coaches, and they work
really hard to try and work their way up a lot.
And not that I feel sorry for him, you know,
they have did fun jobs and stuff. But all of
a sudden, this former player who happens to work as
you know, who happens had the ear of the owner,
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which is a key thing. You know, if you're the
guy sitting next to the owner talking to him, you're
usually the most powerful guy. It's like, hey, you don't
give it a try, you got it. You can do this.
And he's stepping into a room with a bunch of
assistant coaches who are looking going, seriously, you got the
job and not me mean there's quality control guys who
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we're probably looking at this going wait a sec. I'm
and I've been like sleeping on you know, sleeping on
the sofa and the assistance office until three o'clock, you know,
and after staying up until three o'clock in the morning
breaking down tape, and this guy just walks in and
gets another chance. Now, look, Je Saturday is a really
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smart guy, and who knows he may have the qualifications
to be a great head coach, he just hasn't earned it.
He really truly hasn't earned it in any way, shape
or force. So nobody's going to really truly respect him
in the game. And lets he does something substantial. And
here's the problem he's got sam Elan nears his quarterback.
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What's really going to happen here over the last part
of the season. Come on, we all know, well now
we'll see that. Now you're now you're just killing my buzz,
because after this week I thought maybe it's some really
have any buzz? Don't why you were killing my buzz
because I said that, hey, if stick if he if
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he no, no, because if he gets if he gets
plucked out of the booth to go coach a team.
You know, Woody Johnson could listen to the show and think, hey,
Jason knows what he's talking about. It. I could have
been the next jet said coach, now you're killing you.
Tell me it's not gonna happen for me. Now my
dreams are out the window. Thanks for nothing. I don't
even know how to respond to that, just like I'm
(40:34):
dumbfounded by the concept of although I think that it
might be one of the most entertaining things ever to
see you within a headset marching up and down the
sideline during a game, and like you'd be saying over
the heads my best friend and that he was hearing
stuff like that, and everybody goes, is that a call
or what is it? Yeah, it's the call, it's my
(40:55):
best friend, And then can we take any callers? Like
you would go into the stands and would say, a fireman,
at what's your thoughts on the next play? Came? What
should we do? Come on, come on, man, go into
the stands. He'd be my offensive coordinator. What do you
that go into the stands? You be standing right next
to me, into on your shoulders. Every week they'd be
(41:16):
like one of those radio contest. This collar gets to
be the DC this week. He's on Twitter at jameson Question.
If you tweet us out enough times, you could be
up in the booth in the coach's box this week.
That's going with the Jets. The Jet Now, the Jets
(41:43):
were my favorite story this week because they get great
upset over Buffalo, right, and then like Sali comes up
and says, yeah, I really told you know, Zach Wilson,
you know, just you know, just keep it under control,
just you know, don't don't you don't have to do
too much. You don't have in other words, to stay
out of the way. The rest of this team is
(42:05):
pretty good. Don't screw it up. Tak it easy, buddy.
We'll talk to you next year. J Cole Later, guys,
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