November 19, 2022 • 35 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon continue to give you some CFB upsets for the week. The guys discuss a huge night from the NBA and also discuss their best NFL games of the week. Plus, College Football News dot com’s Pete Fiutak joins the guys to discuss week 12 in CFB and more!
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Late night in the NBA, two teams were the combined
record of six and twenty three. Yes the piste it's in.
The Lakers are tied at seventy two a piece with
nine minutes to go in the third quarter. A d
s got eighteen for the Lakers to lead the way. Meanwhile,
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in a game of teams that are, the Warriors are
still on top of the Knicks seventy four as they
start the fourth quarter. This has been a Warrior's lead
from the jump. They were up sixteen in the first quarter.
The Knicks have never been able to cut the lead.
And now the Warriors have decided, oh no, we gotta
be sure we have these laws now the Knicks, and
we have to make sure we step up and play
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great against And so now the Knicks, coming off two
big wins on their road trip, down fifteen to the
Warriors as we start the fourth quarter. Now I dig them,
though they're they're really good at home, comfortable in San Francisco.
On the road, it's a whole other thing. You gotta
wonder if we can get someone with a helmet cam. Uh,
you know, the Al frank And mobile unit and look
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at up people going back aways on Saturday Night Live.
But the long but for you was hanging around politics.
But the idea being that, uh, they've been really good
at home and on the road it's been disastrous. So
we gotta figure out exactly what the hiccups are in
terms of road intensity, road sequencing, scheduling, you know all
those things they said Jeff Saturday was supposed to be
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working on. He doesn't know how to script a practice.
Steve Kurt forgot how to script a road trip? Is
that what we're talking about? A yea, I mean that's
certainly gonna help at home, but I mean there's six
and one at home. Nine overall, I know garbage when
I see it. I watched the Lakers every night. Point. Well,
we talked about this last night. The Warriors simply are
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a five hundred team and that's kind of who they are,
barring a change, a big change, which they could still
pull off at some point, because you can make a
deal and say, hey, come play the rest of the
season with Steph and Clay and maybe with a champions
k d K the bottle. That would be so awesome.
But the bottom line is this is that when we
look back at the Warriors, right we say, five years
from now, we look back, get the big era of
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the Golden State Warriors, right when Steph is retired and
Clay has retired and Draymond has been on TV for
three years already, when it's okay, when we move a
little bit ways away from the Warriors dynasty, we're gonna
look back at the championship last year and say, wow,
they were really fortunate to squeak out one more title
before the next team great teams in the NBA took over,
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before the Pelicans became fantastic, before the Grizzlies became fantastic,
before the Celtics got it all together, and the Bucks
continued their ascension with the honest it's gonna be boy.
You know, we we got it that last year. We
we squeaked out one more title before we got too
old and the other team started to take off, and
and and we couldn't compete with them. That's how we're
gonna look back at the Warriors and last year to
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this year to be put in proper perspective. Yeah, I
mean the curiosity as as you move forward. We did
did a deep dive on this, going back to Wednesday.
Find the podcast wherever you get your audio, but the
clips notes version as they dismantled the Knicks on a
Friday night up in San Francisco, getting into the holiday holiday,
holiday week, and what better way to add the to
the festivities than beating down your Nicks on your birthday.
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Happy birthday, bunny. Uh. Is that they haven't gotten the
rotational players, the young guys that we're supposed to step up,
and take some of the onus, taking some of the
weight off the legs and aptitude and night tonight resiliency
of the veteran players. You're you're played a lot of
weary minutes right now, and it's showing in the back
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part of games where defensively you're not quite there. Clay
Thompson has been bristling a bunch of people bringing up,
you know, where his stats aren't measuring up and and really, uh,
he's getting kind of a chap ass on it a
bit too much for where we are in the season
here in mid November. But hey, you know, you hear
it long enough and as frequently as he's had even
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going back to last season, that it's it's gonna rear
its head. But Moody comingo. All these guys, they're really
young and we're expected to be can tributors and right now,
well they're not. So You're you're playing heavy minutes, you're
losing on the road. Uh, and you've got those frustrations.
What's the the fix? Yeah? Is it a big trade?
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The deals you signed? Uh has certainly signed. Uh. Jordan
Poole too, is not conducive to being bounced around, nor
is the one you signed Andrew Wiggins too. You thought
you'd fixed and solidified long term. But if the second unit,
the sixth through eight, six through nine, however deep you
want to go early in the regular season, isn't contributing.
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Makes for a long slog for now. But as we
know the NBA, do you really play before Christmas? Do
you really uh, don't look at look at And just
to just to kind of button that before you get
into this NFL topic, is that it's okay if the
Warriors beat the crap out of the next tonight. Yes,
it's it's my birthday and that's fine. But I'm I'm
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focused on Sunday and that Jet Patriots game. That's what
I want for my birthday. That's the big present. Break
that thirteen bleeping game losing streak. I don't care if
you win nine seven, break that losing streak against the Patriots,
keep them in last place, vault up into first place
in the a f C East, faults up those power rankings.
That's the game. That's what I want. All my birthday
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energies are focused into that game. Okay, Well, what if
you had to say, sign a piece of paper, you know,
like Motley Crew did when they retired, uh, that they
would never perform as Motley Crew and whatever again. But
for you, it was you would never pass through the
arches of the Golden Arches. So wait just for one game,
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and I can't have McDonald's again. Correct, No, you gotta
give me more than that you got. It's not a
karmic cosmic level. This would be so immense for your psyche,
for the people of New Jersey and the five guys
in New York uh and and Fireman Ed and all
these people. It would be such a huge thing. And
for you to be able to look at how mad
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Bill Belichick was blah blah blah blah blah, that it
would mean so much that Yeah, that's the way I'm
ascribing to it. No, no, no, dude, I can't not
for one game. Come on, man, you can't give me.
You can't give me one game if you're game for
a lifetime. Look at that. No, that's not enough. Come on,
that's a Hallmark movie Round starring John Hamm as Jason Smith.
(07:24):
Now we've got John ham down. You got John ham Sure,
you got. Slattery was being quoted this week saying when
they were doing scenes for mad Men. They'd all stand
there slack, Jawn and wide. I just being in the
presence of John Hammond. You think we're gonna put him?
What's that, honey? That's how Jason looks at a ham
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Trust me, John hamm is gonna be doing Hallmark movies
before you know it. Trust me, trust me. Trust I
still haven't seen Fletch yet, by the way. Uh No,
you know what I really want to see is the
menu that looks Yeah, we're gonna go see tomorrow afternoon.
I think that looks really good. But were every day?
What are you talking about? If you said to me
a super Bowl and I can't have McDonald's again now,
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then then we got something. Then we have something there
because that's all time. That's something I can go back.
I could never forget. No, no, you can. That's never happening.
You could be one. No, but it's gonna happen. This
never happening. Oh you kidding? Sauce Gardener super Bowl m
v P. Are you kidding? It's gonna be great? But
you know how I tie these things together? Though you're
talking about the menu, uh and and all that. The
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trailer commercials you told them it was my birthday. Yeah,
it was funny four hours ago. Kind of the same
thing here. We just took you into a deep dark place.
And what would you give up for that? Jets win?
Extrapolate time if if you say, no McDonald's for the
rest of the year, okay from no, no, no no, no, no,
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we're at November eighteenth. No no, no, that's no good.
You think I got another day and of course I
know the day, right, That's fine. You couldn't make it anyway,
that's sure. I couldn't November click quickly. You didn't make it,
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all right? How about this? How about this? How about this?
What about this? Deal? Ready? If the Jets beat the
Patriots Sunday? Okay, Jets beat the Patriots, but he said
he has Jets beat the Patriots Sunday, we're probably gonna work.
Let me see where we're at. We fined, we're gonna finish.
Uh sometime in the week before we we we take
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our Christmas and holiday holiday holiday vacations, uh, somewhere around
that December. Okay, so perfect, Okay, let's just say this.
Let's say this. If the Jets beat the Patriots Sunday,
I won't eat McDonald's for thirty days, thirty days off
the Jets beat the Patriots Sunday. Can we at least
do forty days? So it matches lent and time because
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you know, we didn't know that we're gone and we're
on vacation. We're getting a thirty days. Yeah exactly, I'm not.
I'm not gonna follow you with a camera or anything.
You don't trust me that, no, no, no no, you
don't walk in and we we'd have to have a
specially trained dog that would be able to smell it
on you mc dog. What does he sniff out if
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you've had McDonald's or sniffs not the fake meat? You
know that sounds like that would be ti shirts dog. Oh,
we got a dog that snips out of your head
meat from a fast food restaurant. Can't have it, can't
have it, Nope, nope, can't do it. Get my dog
out of this. I'm not gonna eat it. Someone brings
over lunch. What did you go ahead smell that? I'm
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sorry you replaced that really fresh meat with fast food.
Dog knows the smell of burnt rubber when he smelled it.
We had this dog in our family now for six
seven years. He was getting very highly qualified with a
special set of skills. Oh was he a police dog
rescue dog? Did he serve oversees as part of the military.
Now he was trained to sniff out when Jason sneaked McDonald's.
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He's a health dog. He's looking at How would you
guys not want to do? I mean, this is unprecedented
in the NFL. Jets win a game, I won't have
McDonald's for a month. Who's monitoring it? Yeah, I'm I'm
not going to not tell you how is it not
good enough? Really? You don't trust me for that? That
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you don't trust me for that? By the way, when
you're going away on and vacation, how much do you
have to budget for him McDonald's meal? Where you're going? Oh? Dude?
So next week? Next week, I'm off going to Hawaii
next week. It's a late vacation from my fiftieth because
of COVID because we couldn't go. I remember now that
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someone's in Hawaii was for our honeymoon back you know,
years and years ago, and we went to Kauai and
when we landed we left. This is crazy because pretty
is right now. When we landed in Kauai, there did
he show up? Was when we landed in Kauai and
we get out and we're hungry because we're like, we've
been on this plane for a long time. Let's go.
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And there was a McDonald's not too far from the airports.
I said, let's go. And I remember getting a big
mac meal at McDonald's and it was simply a big
mac fries and a diet coke, which it was supersized.
It was. It was large, and it was twelve dollars.
And I'm like, oh my god, that's expensive. Holy crap.
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It's not like we can't go back to McDonald's. How
expensive it is here and here somewhere else? And said
we we gotta go back to McDonald We gotta can't
eat here. Oh I got I can't keep beating all
this POI all the time. I gotta gotta go get McDonald's.
I gotta get shave ice. I gotta do something. Uh yeah,
it was stunted. How much And now like, that's how
much it is when you go to McDonald's here. So
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I'm cringing what it might be when we go back
to Hawaii next week. Okay, I can't stop McDonald's. First
otherwise other breakfast barrito thirteen dollars. Oh my good, it's
like getting a breakfast barrita when I go out to
breakfast here in l A. No McDonald I can't believe
you don't think I would tell you that. What's the
other side of the shocks me. I was just gonna
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say that that was a guarantee the other side of
the bat. I would say this one night, on a
night of my choosing. You guys have to bring McDonald's
in for me. I was gonna do that for your birthday.
I will not contribute to your demise. Demise. I will
not stand for this aggression. Man, I was gonna do
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Oh man, I was gonna do it. I was gonna
do it. I'm telling you no McDonald's for a month.
But now no, no, no, I gotta dig that though.
I mean, I'll take the physical challenge. To take the
physical challenge, Jets win Sunday, no McDonald Mike. I love
how we thinks like we're being mean about it, Like
we can't trust him, Like no, we can't. Yeah, when
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he comes back, if they do win, we'll wind loser. Draw.
I mean, I'll bring him a McDonald's bag. You just
said it like John Amos mcdoh, that's how I McDonald.
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analysis you need. It is Pete few Tech. You can
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fall on Twitter at pete few Tech. That is at
pete few Tech. What's happening, buddy? I like, did you
call me? Man? It makes me feel like I'm responsible
or something, and I just don't feel like I'm that
that much of responsible. I don't think I'm that much
of an adult at this point in my life, but
I do like it. I'll take it at this point. Okay, Well,
I mean I wanted to kind of help you out
there a little bit, and I didn't know, we didn't know.
(15:27):
I appreciate the booth. Say it's great, No, it's but yeah,
I'm always shocked doing what I do for a living
is not exactly you know, you know stuff that it's
always everything I do silly. So I enjoy it. I
appreciate it, all right, So good, So that means you're
on board with me that my two big upsets this
week are gonna be TCU loses in USC loses. Is
that a big upset? Though? If USC loses be given
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only like two and a half, like go big, go bull,
I've got one for you, by the way, But West
Virginia over KSE State. Now wait, now, wait a minute.
These are big upsets because this is gonna throw the
college football playoff pollinto absolute chaos. TCU and USC lose,
that's chaos, man. Uh. I wouldn't call it chaos as
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much as I would call it weeding out the undesirable,
because that's sort of has to because where this all
mixes is it? To your point, USC's got the best
remaining uh one of games left, and so you look
at what they've got left. They've got U c l A,
They've got Notre Dame, and then they get probably Oregon
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or if not Utah. So you've got three top they're
gonna be top fifteen ish twenty is t FP ranked teams.
Do they win those three and they're twelve and one
pack twelve champion? No way, no how, no chance? Or
they left out of the College Football Playoff. And to
your other point, TCU, if it's thirteen and O, all
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this like, well they haven't played any but thirteen and
o TCU is in the College foot ball Playoff, no
matter what, no questions asked. So if you're like an
L s U fan and you want something crazy to happen,
or you know if Michigan House State, if you're hoping
beyond hope that if you lose that game, and uh
you know you want USC to get out of this
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thing fast, t you to start losing. Look at that TCU.
You were trying, Jason, you tried for your chaos, and
Pete told you to go away. So I'll give your chaos.
The chaos theory is l s U winning out. That's
the one that chews everything up because of l s
U somehow wins out and they are the twelve and
two SEC champion Georgia's twelve and one, Tennessee's eleven and one,
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but with a thirteen win at l s U. Now
what do you do you know, from a theoretical standpoint,
like you're saying, hey, we're keeping out the SEC champion,
but we'll leave out the other two teams in the
conference that weren't good enough to win the championship. Like
it gets a little funky after that. There's your chaos theory.
That's that's where TCU gets a participation trophy because we've
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seen this before. Oh yeah, the two thousan four team
where they were number three in the pent ultimate. We
never used the word pent ultimate until this time. That
was good, nicely done, thank you, Just like we never
used the word stave until I gave game like six
of a hockey series like saved off elimination. But it's
got to be week four we start using the if
team X in college football can run the table, right,
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that's like the week for a week five exactly, that's
exactly right. But so I will give you this here.
I'm gonna throw you my upset special, possibly for the
week at least against the spread, which, in the weirdest
of ways, if this actually happens, it doesn't matter. Watch
out for Illinois and Michigan because Illinois, what we've learned
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about this team is it struggled against teams that can
kind of throw, and during their run they were able
to rock teams that that relied on the running game.
In Michigan State could throw a little bit and per do.
All it does is throw, and they beat him. And
I think the last night checked the weather in ann
Arbor is going to be like minus forty four degrees
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with about nine win which I'm gaggerating obviously, but like
it's supposed to be cold and windy. And J. J.
McCarthy has been a little offf lately. He's not the
passer he was when he first started out. So if
all of a sudden Michigan can't throw, you're playing right
into the teeth of what Illinois is. And in the
weirdest way, let's say Illinois does pull off, it doesn't matter.
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It doesn't matter If Michigan wins by fifty, doesn't matter
if they lose, if they still gotta beat Ohouse State.
You beat Ohouse State, you win the Big Ten championship,
and you're in the College football playoffs, matter what. So
this is really an exhibition game, but that's one of
those games that if it breaks right, illinally just kind
of has the right mix of stuff. Touchdown Tommy de Vito,
former Syracuse quarterback, could pull off the upset of the
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year and look at that. There you go, all roads
tied back to Syracus. That's right. Yeah, mid twenties feels
like ten with winds fifteen to twenty miles an hour tomorrow.
So there. It's just and you guys live it right man.
It's it's brutal in this part of the Chicago was
just a stupid place to live. It's just it's cold
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in the Midwest. Everything, like like at Minnesota, GA, the
Minnesota game is gonna be real. It's really it's gonna
be like ten degrees and like windy. I mean, that's
just that's just crazy. I mean just that's why games
should be played in Detroit and the Dome. And that's
that's fine. That's how I was laughing as I left
because my brother called me while he was going home
from work in Chicago, Pete, and he actually used that.
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At some point he goes, I'm stupid. Why the hell
am I still here? It's pretty for right now, it's
beautiful outside. But in about a week it's like, all right,
I'm good. I got it. I got the snow thing,
the cold thing. I've done it before. It's it's pretty
all right, let's let's seventy two and sunny again. Let's
do it. Can Minnesota still row the boat if it's ice? Like?
What would that be? You can't say row the boat anymore?
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You can you ice fish? That's what growing up there.
I never got it. I've I've done it once. I'm
good I could. I can check it off whatever, you know,
list of things, and I'm not gonna say bucket list.
I think I did when I was thirteen. But uh yeah,
you forget to ruin the vote. You just ice fish.
You just sit there all day and wait and for
(21:25):
a to like do something. It's it's I never got it,
but hey, you know, I I progressed from Minneapolis to
Chicago and something else. You progress from Chicago like southern
California or something. I take that you can sing Frozen
Heart from Frozen while you're at it. See tie it
all together, leaving no pop culture stone unturned in all
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of this. Oregon in Utah now also rands. But you know,
these type of games, you know, still highly ranked pete,
they have some implications not just for the Pack twelve title,
but also that whole strength of schedule thing we like
to get fired up about. Yeah, you know, I mean
that's and that's why again USC if it runs the
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table is didn't no matter what. If you're one loss
is to Utah on the road by a point. That's
not too bad, but it's disappointing. You know, it would
have been fun to see Oregon and to have a
shot at it and to to still be in the
mix and have that sort of argument in debate if
it could have been a you know twelve and one
Pack twelve champion. But what the conference is has played
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well this year, and I think it's been a little
bit under value on a national scale. It gets this
dismissed a little bit at all. It's just to Pack twelve,
and you know, most of America watched Oregon and Georgia
to start the season. But they're playing great. I mean,
this is I'm really curious to see what happens in
USCU see because this is not a finesse U c
l A team, This is a This team could bang
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on the offensive line, Uh, let's see if the run
defensive us he can hold up. And on the other
part of this thing too with the USC is Caleb Williams.
You know, he's everyone try wants to try to make
you know, Max Doogan and drig May a thing. They're
at Heisman winner. They're gonna win the Heisman. Uh, it's
really c J. Stroud. Or if Caleb Williams goes off
over the next three games with everyone watching, you know,
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let's see what Caleb Williams could do to if you
rock to U c l A, he goes right up
to the top of the Heisman board at least until
Ohio State in Michigan play next week. All right, Now,
of all the teams you mentioned, Pete, you know the
one one loss teams, undefeated teams going in. The one
team you have not mentioned is Clemson. And and nobody
is mentioning Clemson. They're sitting at nine. They could be
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a one loss a CEC champion. Are they going to
get the same benefit of the doubt it was the
same treatment as a one loss Big twelve team, a
one loss SEC team and one are they going to
get that or one loss even if they win the
a CEC. Are they still potentially not getting in about
a one loss North Carolina if it goes twelve and
one and win the CEC. But here's here's how I've
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had this playing out, and it goes right in line
with your upset specials. You're right, I don't think ECU
is getting through this clean. Uh, even if they lose
to take absolutely could do tomorrow. I'm still sticking with
my call that Kansas State probably wins the Big twelve
title over TCU. So somehow, let's assume TCU gets knocked
out of the mix. Let's assume USC loses one of
these next two. If not one of the three are
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more games, and so you don't have a Pack twelve
team in the mix, Well who else you got? Because
in the history of the college football playoffs, I'll keep
saying this, I know it's the community can do whatever
it wants, but they've never not taken a twelve and
one Power five conference champion win. Uh, they've had the
option to two thousand and eighteen, the only one because
the Notre Dame went twelve and oh so if you've
got an SEC champion that you gotta take, if you
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have a Big ten champion you have to take, and
there's only one other twelve and one Power five conference champion,
it's gonna be in and it might be your a
CC champion, which said, I'm sticking with my call at
this point, which I have for a little while. Now,
where you have number one Georgia versus number four Clemson,
and then number two While State versus number three Tennessee
and you're colle football playoffs all the end up there
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in l A. All right, now, wait now, let me
let me throw this at you. Then if that's the
way it's gonna go, Let's say Ohio State Michigan. They
enter Ohio State Michigan both undefeated, and it's a close
game and Michigan loses four or Michigan beats Ohio State.
Can both of them make it? If we get chaos
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and we have teams losing not obviously, can both of
them make Will they take the Big ten champion? And
the one lost team in the Big Ten. As long
as that game is close, that Michigan doesn't get blown out,
Ohio State doesn't get blown out. Yeah, exactly. So let's
assume that the Michigan House State winner goes on to
take the Big Ten championship. The problem is gonna be, well,
if it's Michigan over Ohio State, the argument's gonna be, well,
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Ohio States just lost at home, which the committee is
not going to like very much. And the rest of
the schedule isn't that great. Okay, you're beat Notre Dame
in the opener and Penn States, all right, but the
schedule is not that great. And Michigan just hasn't beaten
any audia. I mean, Penn States, they're one win. What's
your nonconference It was Colorado State, Hawaii and Yukon if
I remember right. I mean, there's just there's nothing there,
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which is the problem that, yes, if they win, if
they lose tastefully even eleven one, Michigan House State loucher
is in it, but they're not in it over Tennessee.
So if Tennessee goes eleven and one and they've got
on their resume a bunch of just annihilation wins, including
at l s U. It's gonna be and there one
Sin is losing at Georgia and you know they lost decisively,
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but it was, you know, not that bad. They're taking
LSU O Elise eleven win, Tennessee over the eleven one
house State Michigan looser. Such good stuff. So now now
that we're in these final weeks, Pete, I mean, do
you see the light at the end of the tunnel
or are you starting to think about bowl games and placement? Oh?
My eyes are blurry at this point. It's like it's fun.
(26:54):
But I mean that's crazy. Part is this it's such
a fast season. I mean, you know, it just I
feel like we just start it in so many ways.
I mean, it's all a sprint, unlike you know the
other sports that you know take you know, seven eight months.
We're done in two weeks and then it's bull season.
Then it's you know, then you know, the playoffs, but
then everyone gets into the NFL a little more in
college basketball wrapped up. So these are really the next
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two money weeks because this is when it is fun
and it keeps saying it. If they when they expand
to twelve teams. These next two weeks are going to
be even more fun because imagine if you are uh,
let's say a Utah Oregon and you still have a
shot to be alive for a Patrol championship in the
spot in the playoff butt So you are, you know,
in North Carolina and you have a chance at this
(27:38):
or a Kansas State. I mean just it will bring
more fan bases in and I'll still I'll play out
in the cream, will always right in the crowd. You
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So the night in the NBA coming down to it,
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one game left, and oh boy, the three and ten
Lakers are getting all they can handle from the three
and thirteen Pistons one oh four, one oh two. With
about eight minutes left to go, Anthony Davis has twenty
two and twelve rebounds. This is one of those games
where the Lakers have to say, Okay, if we don't
win this game, what really? What else is there to
(29:03):
do this season? What? Should we just trade everybody? Should
we trade Anthony Davis? Should we just get rid of everyone?
If we can't even without Lebron, If we can't win
this game, shouldn't we just move on? Oh? I like that?
Blow it all up going into the holidays. Holidays, holidays,
everybody has a nice dinner and then they burn it down.
(29:24):
I think that's how it works. If you can't win
this game, what game can you legitimately say, oh no,
we can win this one. The light a fire on
the big green egg and you uh you add the
Lakers roster as part of the game, and on the
the loser goes into five. Obviously, I'm talking about you know,
maybe a jersey or two of guys that are jettison
(29:46):
tow other squads, people to get their playing time reduced.
All of those things. It's all um symbolic, like in
ted Lasso when they were burning stuff and then they
wanted to throw the bottle of hooch in there and
they said, hey, no, no tricking that band. Boy's that
thing here. Uh So we'll keep you updated on this
game again. Eight minutes to go in the fourth quarter,
(30:08):
Lakers with a three point lead over the Pistons. Now
the game of the week in the NFL, you have
the Cowboys and the Vikings, and everybody's darling. Now the
Minnesota Vikings after their win last week. That catch by
Justin Jefferson, what down I means? Still call credit to catch?
(30:29):
Still call it's those clubs. Yeah, why should stick him out?
Laud But those things are allowed. It doesn't matter. Scooba
gloves one hand grabs makes no difference. These defensive beck
can't catch with two in the same damn clubs. Well
that's why these guys are wide receivers and the other
guys are defensive. Uh So, the Cowboys come into town
(30:52):
and it's the game of the week, right, like everybody's
gonna be getting this game most likely. Look there's three
late games, and the Raiders and Broncos both stink the
Bengals and Steelers as So, yeah, Cowboys vike. I'm sure
percent of the country is gonna get Cowboys vikings during
the Raiders and Broncos, I'm just gonna play a bunch
of sad Elvis songs, and oh boy, that's just gonna
(31:13):
be two to two here late in the fourth quarter.
You're lonesome tonight. We're gonna build up from the perspective
of the end zone. I wonder if you're lonesome tonight.
But I'm gonna go in this game with the Cowboys
all right. Now, Minnesota has had the brakes all season, right,
(31:35):
this is why they're in one. They're getting the brakes.
It's not that suddenly they're this much better than they
were the last few years. They're like Kirk Cousins said,
I don't know how we're doing it, but we're getting
the extra inches. And that's a great way to explain it.
Some years, the breaks even out for you, and that's
what's going on from Minnesota. A couple of games were
able to close out instead of throwing a pick. They
(31:57):
get fortunate when they catch the Dolphins without to and
they get teddy Bridgewater. They go to London. London is
always a toss up game. They win there. Um, they've
been getting the brakes. It's a magic carpet ride and
enjoy it. But what happens is the brakes tend to
even out a little bit. Not that suddenly the Vikings
are gonna go on a on a on a big downturn.
But this week, give me the Cowboys, because watch the
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miserable day that Kirk Cousins has against this Cowboys defense,
who was mad the way they gave away last week
to the Packers. They should not have given it up
that way. It's gonna be a three pick game for
Kirk Cousins. And it's one of those games every few weeks.
The Dallas says to the dak Prescott, Dad, you gotta
go win this game, going gut check game we lost.
(32:41):
You go win it and get our mojo back, and
this will be a three touchdown game for Dak and
a three pick game for Kirk Cousins. Still closer than
you think, but Dallas wins this game. I'm gonna say
twenty Cowboys, they get their their mojo back, the Vikings
get their breaks, evening out a little bit. Yeah, I
don't think I've heard anybody say get your mojo back,
(33:01):
unless you're doing Texas all the time, get your mom
or well then yeah, that was from a show from
thirty years ago. They still mojo football, they still say,
they still say mojo, they still do it. Yeah. I
was watching it a couple of weeks ago to uh
so I'm with you. Uh look, this one's interesting to me.
And I tried to to do the deep dive with
(33:23):
it with with Michael Parsons and I talked about it
earlier this week. That really didn't get picked up as
much as I'd hoped. Is you know, he was calling
out his squad a right, talking about covering guy's asses.
He lit a fire under him doing a lot of
great things as well. He did some good charitable work
and getting making sure people got fed so you gotta
give him some love there. But you're looking at a
(33:44):
defense it's gonna be salty. Um, so the run will
be more difficult for Dalvin Cook to exploit. So some
of that play action goes away and Kirk under duress. Yeah,
is he got only coming back whatever he adds to
Tony Pollard, You've got an explosive run game and ceedee
Lamb stepping up a bit more. Yeah, I think this
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is a spot where where Dallas gets right, if only
for a day leading into Thanksgiving. Yeah. Look, it's it's
not suddenly Dallas solves all their problems, but this is
one of those This is one of those weeks where, hey,
the matchup is there for them, the opportunistic defense is
gonna and and and it's a perfect it's a perfect
guy to play against, you know, can give you a
couple during any game. And Cousins. So it's it's more like, hey,
(34:27):
this matchup looks good for the Cowboys defense to get
back what they lost last week. Yeah, still fifth in
total defense, given up just eighteen point two points per game.
Bit's stingy. You know the secondary has come up with
big plays, uh in the past, and I just look
at with the Vikings. Even you factored into the line. Right,
Dallas is a narrow favorite on the road. People are
(34:48):
like why. It's like, look at what the Vikings have
done this year. It makes perfect sense. Twitter at how
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Late night in the NBA, two teams were the combined
record of six and twenty three. Yes the piste it's in.
The Lakers are tied at seventy two a piece with
nine minutes to go in the third quarter. A d
s got eighteen for the Lakers to lead the way. Meanwhile,
(01:12):
in a game of teams that are, the Warriors are
still on top of the Knicks seventy four as they
start the fourth quarter. This has been a Warrior's lead
from the jump. They were up sixteen in the first quarter.
The Knicks have never been able to cut the lead.
And now the Warriors have decided, oh no, we gotta
be sure we have these laws now the Knicks, and
we have to make sure we step up and play
(01:34):
great against And so now the Knicks, coming off two
big wins on their road trip, down fifteen to the
Warriors as we start the fourth quarter. Now I dig them,
though they're they're really good at home, comfortable in San Francisco.
On the road, it's a whole other thing. You gotta
wonder if we can get someone with a helmet cam. Uh,
you know, the Al frank And mobile unit and look
(01:55):
at up people going back aways on Saturday Night Live.
But the long but for you was hanging around politics.
But the idea being that, uh, they've been really good
at home and on the road it's been disastrous. So
we gotta figure out exactly what the hiccups are in
terms of road intensity, road sequencing, scheduling, you know all
those things they said Jeff Saturday was supposed to be
(02:16):
working on. He doesn't know how to script a practice.
Steve Kurt forgot how to script a road trip? Is
that what we're talking about? A yea, I mean that's
certainly gonna help at home, but I mean there's six
and one at home. Nine overall, I know garbage when
I see it. I watched the Lakers every night. Point. Well,
we talked about this last night. The Warriors simply are
(02:39):
a five hundred team and that's kind of who they are,
barring a change, a big change, which they could still
pull off at some point, because you can make a
deal and say, hey, come play the rest of the
season with Steph and Clay and maybe with a champions
k d K the bottle. That would be so awesome.
But the bottom line is this is that when we
look back at the Warriors, right we say, five years
from now, we look back, get the big era of
(03:01):
the Golden State Warriors, right when Steph is retired and
Clay has retired and Draymond has been on TV for
three years already, when it's okay, when we move a
little bit ways away from the Warriors dynasty, we're gonna
look back at the championship last year and say, wow,
they were really fortunate to squeak out one more title
before the next team great teams in the NBA took over,
(03:23):
before the Pelicans became fantastic, before the Grizzlies became fantastic,
before the Celtics got it all together, and the Bucks
continued their ascension with the honest it's gonna be boy.
You know, we we got it that last year. We
we squeaked out one more title before we got too
old and the other team started to take off, and
and and we couldn't compete with them. That's how we're
gonna look back at the Warriors and last year to
(03:45):
this year to be put in proper perspective. Yeah, I
mean the curiosity as as you move forward. We did
did a deep dive on this, going back to Wednesday.
Find the podcast wherever you get your audio, but the
clips notes version as they dismantled the Knicks on a
Friday night up in San Francisco, getting into the holiday holiday,
holiday week, and what better way to add the to
the festivities than beating down your Nicks on your birthday.
(04:09):
Happy birthday, bunny. Uh. Is that they haven't gotten the
rotational players, the young guys that we're supposed to step up,
and take some of the onus, taking some of the
weight off the legs and aptitude and night tonight resiliency
of the veteran players. You're you're played a lot of
weary minutes right now, and it's showing in the back
(04:30):
part of games where defensively you're not quite there. Clay
Thompson has been bristling a bunch of people bringing up,
you know, where his stats aren't measuring up and and really, uh,
he's getting kind of a chap ass on it a
bit too much for where we are in the season
here in mid November. But hey, you know, you hear
it long enough and as frequently as he's had even
(04:52):
going back to last season, that it's it's gonna rear
its head. But Moody comingo. All these guys, they're really
young and we're expected to be can tributors and right now,
well they're not. So You're you're playing heavy minutes, you're
losing on the road. Uh, and you've got those frustrations.
What's the the fix? Yeah? Is it a big trade?
(05:13):
The deals you signed? Uh has certainly signed. Uh. Jordan
Poole too, is not conducive to being bounced around, nor
is the one you signed Andrew Wiggins too. You thought
you'd fixed and solidified long term. But if the second unit,
the sixth through eight, six through nine, however deep you
want to go early in the regular season, isn't contributing.
(05:36):
Makes for a long slog for now. But as we
know the NBA, do you really play before Christmas? Do
you really uh, don't look at look at And just
to just to kind of button that before you get
into this NFL topic, is that it's okay if the
Warriors beat the crap out of the next tonight. Yes,
it's it's my birthday and that's fine. But I'm I'm
(05:57):
focused on Sunday and that Jet Patriots game. That's what
I want for my birthday. That's the big present. Break
that thirteen bleeping game losing streak. I don't care if
you win nine seven, break that losing streak against the Patriots,
keep them in last place, vault up into first place
in the a f C East, faults up those power rankings.
That's the game. That's what I want. All my birthday
(06:19):
energies are focused into that game. Okay, Well, what if
you had to say, sign a piece of paper, you know,
like Motley Crew did when they retired, uh, that they
would never perform as Motley Crew and whatever again. But
for you, it was you would never pass through the
arches of the Golden Arches. So wait just for one game,
(06:39):
and I can't have McDonald's again. Correct, No, you gotta
give me more than that you got. It's not a
karmic cosmic level. This would be so immense for your psyche,
for the people of New Jersey and the five guys
in New York uh and and Fireman Ed and all
these people. It would be such a huge thing. And
for you to be able to look at how mad
(07:01):
Bill Belichick was blah blah blah blah blah, that it
would mean so much that Yeah, that's the way I'm
ascribing to it. No, no, no, dude, I can't not
for one game. Come on, man, you can't give me.
You can't give me one game if you're game for
a lifetime. Look at that. No, that's not enough. Come on,
that's a Hallmark movie Round starring John Hamm as Jason Smith.
(07:24):
Now we've got John ham down. You got John ham Sure,
you got. Slattery was being quoted this week saying when
they were doing scenes for mad Men. They'd all stand
there slack, Jawn and wide. I just being in the
presence of John Hammond. You think we're gonna put him?
What's that, honey? That's how Jason looks at a ham
(07:47):
Trust me, John hamm is gonna be doing Hallmark movies
before you know it. Trust me, trust me. Trust I
still haven't seen Fletch yet, by the way. Uh No,
you know what I really want to see is the
menu that looks Yeah, we're gonna go see tomorrow afternoon.
I think that looks really good. But were every day?
What are you talking about? If you said to me
a super Bowl and I can't have McDonald's again now,
(08:10):
then then we got something. Then we have something there
because that's all time. That's something I can go back.
I could never forget. No, no, you can. That's never happening.
You could be one. No, but it's gonna happen. This
never happening. Oh you kidding? Sauce Gardener super Bowl m
v P. Are you kidding? It's gonna be great? But
you know how I tie these things together? Though you're
talking about the menu, uh and and all that. The
(08:32):
trailer commercials you told them it was my birthday. Yeah,
it was funny four hours ago. Kind of the same
thing here. We just took you into a deep dark place.
And what would you give up for that? Jets win?
Extrapolate time if if you say, no McDonald's for the
rest of the year, okay from no, no, no no, no, no,
(08:54):
we're at November eighteenth. No no, no, that's no good.
You think I got another day and of course I
know the day, right, That's fine. You couldn't make it anyway,
that's sure. I couldn't November click quickly. You didn't make it,
(09:14):
all right? How about this? How about this? How about this?
What about this? Deal? Ready? If the Jets beat the
Patriots Sunday? Okay, Jets beat the Patriots, but he said
he has Jets beat the Patriots Sunday, we're probably gonna work.
Let me see where we're at. We fined, we're gonna finish.
Uh sometime in the week before we we we take
(09:35):
our Christmas and holiday holiday holiday vacations, uh, somewhere around
that December. Okay, so perfect, Okay, let's just say this.
Let's say this. If the Jets beat the Patriots Sunday,
I won't eat McDonald's for thirty days, thirty days off
the Jets beat the Patriots Sunday. Can we at least
do forty days? So it matches lent and time because
(09:58):
you know, we didn't know that we're gone and we're
on vacation. We're getting a thirty days. Yeah exactly, I'm not.
I'm not gonna follow you with a camera or anything.
You don't trust me that, no, no, no no, you
don't walk in and we we'd have to have a
specially trained dog that would be able to smell it
on you mc dog. What does he sniff out if
(10:20):
you've had McDonald's or sniffs not the fake meat? You
know that sounds like that would be ti shirts dog. Oh,
we got a dog that snips out of your head
meat from a fast food restaurant. Can't have it, can't
have it, Nope, nope, can't do it. Get my dog
out of this. I'm not gonna eat it. Someone brings
over lunch. What did you go ahead smell that? I'm
(10:44):
sorry you replaced that really fresh meat with fast food.
Dog knows the smell of burnt rubber when he smelled it.
We had this dog in our family now for six
seven years. He was getting very highly qualified with a
special set of skills. Oh was he a police dog
rescue dog? Did he serve oversees as part of the military.
Now he was trained to sniff out when Jason sneaked McDonald's.
(11:07):
He's a health dog. He's looking at How would you
guys not want to do? I mean, this is unprecedented
in the NFL. Jets win a game, I won't have
McDonald's for a month. Who's monitoring it? Yeah, I'm I'm
not going to not tell you how is it not
good enough? Really? You don't trust me for that? That
(11:31):
you don't trust me for that? By the way, when
you're going away on and vacation, how much do you
have to budget for him McDonald's meal? Where you're going? Oh? Dude?
So next week? Next week, I'm off going to Hawaii
next week. It's a late vacation from my fiftieth because
of COVID because we couldn't go. I remember now that
(11:51):
someone's in Hawaii was for our honeymoon back you know,
years and years ago, and we went to Kauai and
when we landed we left. This is crazy because pretty
is right now. When we landed in Kauai, there did
he show up? Was when we landed in Kauai and
we get out and we're hungry because we're like, we've
been on this plane for a long time. Let's go.
(12:13):
And there was a McDonald's not too far from the airports.
I said, let's go. And I remember getting a big
mac meal at McDonald's and it was simply a big
mac fries and a diet coke, which it was supersized.
It was. It was large, and it was twelve dollars.
And I'm like, oh my god, that's expensive. Holy crap.
(12:34):
It's not like we can't go back to McDonald's. How
expensive it is here and here somewhere else? And said
we we gotta go back to McDonald We gotta can't
eat here. Oh I got I can't keep beating all
this POI all the time. I gotta gotta go get McDonald's.
I gotta get shave ice. I gotta do something. Uh yeah,
it was stunted. How much And now like, that's how
much it is when you go to McDonald's here. So
(12:55):
I'm cringing what it might be when we go back
to Hawaii next week. Okay, I can't stop McDonald's. First
otherwise other breakfast barrito thirteen dollars. Oh my good, it's
like getting a breakfast barrita when I go out to
breakfast here in l A. No McDonald I can't believe
you don't think I would tell you that. What's the
other side of the shocks me. I was just gonna
(13:17):
say that that was a guarantee the other side of
the bat. I would say this one night, on a
night of my choosing. You guys have to bring McDonald's
in for me. I was gonna do that for your birthday.
I will not contribute to your demise. Demise. I will
not stand for this aggression. Man, I was gonna do
(13:42):
Oh man, I was gonna do it. I was gonna
do it. I'm telling you no McDonald's for a month.
But now no, no, no, I gotta dig that though.
I mean, I'll take the physical challenge. To take the
physical challenge, Jets win Sunday, no McDonald Mike. I love
how we thinks like we're being mean about it, Like
we can't trust him, Like no, we can't. Yeah, when
(14:02):
he comes back, if they do win, we'll wind loser. Draw.
I mean, I'll bring him a McDonald's bag. You just
said it like John Amos mcdoh, that's how I McDonald.
His tombstone is gonna say Harmon killed him? Are on
the bottom meet with an asterisk or Harmon. Be sure
(14:23):
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analysis you need. It is Pete few Tech. You can
(15:05):
fall on Twitter at pete few Tech. That is at
pete few Tech. What's happening, buddy? I like, did you
call me? Man? It makes me feel like I'm responsible
or something, and I just don't feel like I'm that
that much of responsible. I don't think I'm that much
of an adult at this point in my life, but
I do like it. I'll take it at this point. Okay, Well,
I mean I wanted to kind of help you out
there a little bit, and I didn't know, we didn't know.
(15:27):
I appreciate the booth. Say it's great, No, it's but yeah,
I'm always shocked doing what I do for a living
is not exactly you know, you know stuff that it's
always everything I do silly. So I enjoy it. I
appreciate it, all right, So good, So that means you're
on board with me that my two big upsets this
week are gonna be TCU loses in USC loses. Is
that a big upset? Though? If USC loses be given
(15:50):
only like two and a half, like go big, go bull,
I've got one for you, by the way, But West
Virginia over KSE State. Now wait, now, wait a minute.
These are big upsets because this is gonna throw the
college football playoff pollinto absolute chaos. TCU and USC lose,
that's chaos, man. Uh. I wouldn't call it chaos as
(16:13):
much as I would call it weeding out the undesirable,
because that's sort of has to because where this all
mixes is it? To your point, USC's got the best
remaining uh one of games left, and so you look
at what they've got left. They've got U c l A,
They've got Notre Dame, and then they get probably Oregon
(16:34):
or if not Utah. So you've got three top they're
gonna be top fifteen ish twenty is t FP ranked teams.
Do they win those three and they're twelve and one
pack twelve champion? No way, no how, no chance? Or
they left out of the College Football Playoff. And to
your other point, TCU, if it's thirteen and O, all
(16:55):
this like, well they haven't played any but thirteen and
o TCU is in the College foot ball Playoff, no
matter what, no questions asked. So if you're like an
L s U fan and you want something crazy to happen,
or you know if Michigan House State, if you're hoping
beyond hope that if you lose that game, and uh
you know you want USC to get out of this
(17:15):
thing fast, t you to start losing. Look at that TCU.
You were trying, Jason, you tried for your chaos, and
Pete told you to go away. So I'll give your chaos.
The chaos theory is l s U winning out. That's
the one that chews everything up because of l s
U somehow wins out and they are the twelve and
two SEC champion Georgia's twelve and one, Tennessee's eleven and one,
(17:38):
but with a thirteen win at l s U. Now
what do you do you know, from a theoretical standpoint,
like you're saying, hey, we're keeping out the SEC champion,
but we'll leave out the other two teams in the
conference that weren't good enough to win the championship. Like
it gets a little funky after that. There's your chaos theory.
That's that's where TCU gets a participation trophy because we've
(18:01):
seen this before. Oh yeah, the two thousan four team
where they were number three in the pent ultimate. We
never used the word pent ultimate until this time. That
was good, nicely done, thank you, Just like we never
used the word stave until I gave game like six
of a hockey series like saved off elimination. But it's
got to be week four we start using the if
team X in college football can run the table, right,
(18:23):
that's like the week for a week five exactly, that's
exactly right. But so I will give you this here.
I'm gonna throw you my upset special, possibly for the
week at least against the spread, which, in the weirdest
of ways, if this actually happens, it doesn't matter. Watch
out for Illinois and Michigan because Illinois, what we've learned
(18:48):
about this team is it struggled against teams that can
kind of throw, and during their run they were able
to rock teams that that relied on the running game.
In Michigan State could throw a little bit and per do.
All it does is throw, and they beat him. And
I think the last night checked the weather in ann
Arbor is going to be like minus forty four degrees
(19:09):
with about nine win which I'm gaggerating obviously, but like
it's supposed to be cold and windy. And J. J.
McCarthy has been a little offf lately. He's not the
passer he was when he first started out. So if
all of a sudden Michigan can't throw, you're playing right
into the teeth of what Illinois is. And in the
weirdest way, let's say Illinois does pull off, it doesn't matter.
(19:33):
It doesn't matter If Michigan wins by fifty, doesn't matter
if they lose, if they still gotta beat Ohouse State.
You beat Ohouse State, you win the Big Ten championship,
and you're in the College football playoffs, matter what. So
this is really an exhibition game, but that's one of
those games that if it breaks right, illinally just kind
of has the right mix of stuff. Touchdown Tommy de Vito,
former Syracuse quarterback, could pull off the upset of the
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year and look at that. There you go, all roads
tied back to Syracus. That's right. Yeah, mid twenties feels
like ten with winds fifteen to twenty miles an hour tomorrow.
So there. It's just and you guys live it right man.
It's it's brutal in this part of the Chicago was
just a stupid place to live. It's just it's cold
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in the Midwest. Everything, like like at Minnesota, GA, the
Minnesota game is gonna be real. It's really it's gonna
be like ten degrees and like windy. I mean, that's
just that's just crazy. I mean just that's why games
should be played in Detroit and the Dome. And that's
that's fine. That's how I was laughing as I left
because my brother called me while he was going home
from work in Chicago, Pete, and he actually used that.
(20:40):
At some point he goes, I'm stupid. Why the hell
am I still here? It's pretty for right now, it's
beautiful outside. But in about a week it's like, all right,
I'm good. I got it. I got the snow thing,
the cold thing. I've done it before. It's it's pretty
all right, let's let's seventy two and sunny again. Let's
do it. Can Minnesota still row the boat if it's ice? Like?
What would that be? You can't say row the boat anymore?
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You can you ice fish? That's what growing up there.
I never got it. I've I've done it once. I'm
good I could. I can check it off whatever, you know,
list of things, and I'm not gonna say bucket list.
I think I did when I was thirteen. But uh yeah,
you forget to ruin the vote. You just ice fish.
You just sit there all day and wait and for
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a to like do something. It's it's I never got it,
but hey, you know, I I progressed from Minneapolis to
Chicago and something else. You progress from Chicago like southern
California or something. I take that you can sing Frozen
Heart from Frozen while you're at it. See tie it
all together, leaving no pop culture stone unturned in all
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of this. Oregon in Utah now also rands. But you know,
these type of games, you know, still highly ranked pete,
they have some implications not just for the Pack twelve title,
but also that whole strength of schedule thing we like
to get fired up about. Yeah, you know, I mean
that's and that's why again USC if it runs the
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table is didn't no matter what. If you're one loss
is to Utah on the road by a point. That's
not too bad, but it's disappointing. You know, it would
have been fun to see Oregon and to have a
shot at it and to to still be in the
mix and have that sort of argument in debate if
it could have been a you know twelve and one
Pack twelve champion. But what the conference is has played
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well this year, and I think it's been a little
bit under value on a national scale. It gets this
dismissed a little bit at all. It's just to Pack twelve,
and you know, most of America watched Oregon and Georgia
to start the season. But they're playing great. I mean,
this is I'm really curious to see what happens in
USCU see because this is not a finesse U c
l A team, This is a This team could bang
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on the offensive line, Uh, let's see if the run
defensive us he can hold up. And on the other
part of this thing too with the USC is Caleb Williams.
You know, he's everyone try wants to try to make
you know, Max Doogan and drig May a thing. They're
at Heisman winner. They're gonna win the Heisman. Uh, it's
really c J. Stroud. Or if Caleb Williams goes off
over the next three games with everyone watching, you know,
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let's see what Caleb Williams could do to if you
rock to U c l A, he goes right up
to the top of the Heisman board at least until
Ohio State in Michigan play next week. All right, Now,
of all the teams you mentioned, Pete, you know the
one one loss teams, undefeated teams going in. The one
team you have not mentioned is Clemson. And and nobody
is mentioning Clemson. They're sitting at nine. They could be
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a one loss a CEC champion. Are they going to
get the same benefit of the doubt it was the
same treatment as a one loss Big twelve team, a
one loss SEC team and one are they going to
get that or one loss even if they win the
a CEC. Are they still potentially not getting in about
a one loss North Carolina if it goes twelve and
one and win the CEC. But here's here's how I've
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had this playing out, and it goes right in line
with your upset specials. You're right, I don't think ECU
is getting through this clean. Uh, even if they lose
to take absolutely could do tomorrow. I'm still sticking with
my call that Kansas State probably wins the Big twelve
title over TCU. So somehow, let's assume TCU gets knocked
out of the mix. Let's assume USC loses one of
these next two. If not one of the three are
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more games, and so you don't have a Pack twelve
team in the mix, Well who else you got? Because
in the history of the college football playoffs, I'll keep
saying this, I know it's the community can do whatever
it wants, but they've never not taken a twelve and
one Power five conference champion win. Uh, they've had the
option to two thousand and eighteen, the only one because
the Notre Dame went twelve and oh so if you've
got an SEC champion that you gotta take, if you
(24:40):
have a Big ten champion you have to take, and
there's only one other twelve and one Power five conference champion,
it's gonna be in and it might be your a
CC champion, which said, I'm sticking with my call at
this point, which I have for a little while. Now,
where you have number one Georgia versus number four Clemson,
and then number two While State versus number three Tennessee
and you're colle football playoffs all the end up there
(25:01):
in l A. All right, now, wait now, let me
let me throw this at you. Then if that's the
way it's gonna go, Let's say Ohio State Michigan. They
enter Ohio State Michigan both undefeated, and it's a close
game and Michigan loses four or Michigan beats Ohio State.
Can both of them make it? If we get chaos
(25:23):
and we have teams losing not obviously, can both of
them make Will they take the Big ten champion? And
the one lost team in the Big Ten. As long
as that game is close, that Michigan doesn't get blown out,
Ohio State doesn't get blown out. Yeah, exactly. So let's
assume that the Michigan House State winner goes on to
take the Big Ten championship. The problem is gonna be, well,
if it's Michigan over Ohio State, the argument's gonna be, well,
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Ohio States just lost at home, which the committee is
not going to like very much. And the rest of
the schedule isn't that great. Okay, you're beat Notre Dame
in the opener and Penn States, all right, but the
schedule is not that great. And Michigan just hasn't beaten
any audia. I mean, Penn States, they're one win. What's
your nonconference It was Colorado State, Hawaii and Yukon if
I remember right. I mean, there's just there's nothing there,
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which is the problem that, yes, if they win, if
they lose tastefully even eleven one, Michigan House State loucher
is in it, but they're not in it over Tennessee.
So if Tennessee goes eleven and one and they've got
on their resume a bunch of just annihilation wins, including
at l s U. It's gonna be and there one
Sin is losing at Georgia and you know they lost decisively,
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but it was, you know, not that bad. They're taking
LSU O Elise eleven win, Tennessee over the eleven one
house State Michigan looser. Such good stuff. So now now
that we're in these final weeks, Pete, I mean, do
you see the light at the end of the tunnel
or are you starting to think about bowl games and placement? Oh?
My eyes are blurry at this point. It's like it's fun.
(26:54):
But I mean that's crazy. Part is this it's such
a fast season. I mean, you know, it just I
feel like we just start it in so many ways.
I mean, it's all a sprint, unlike you know the
other sports that you know take you know, seven eight months.
We're done in two weeks and then it's bull season.
Then it's you know, then you know, the playoffs, but
then everyone gets into the NFL a little more in
college basketball wrapped up. So these are really the next
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two money weeks because this is when it is fun
and it keeps saying it. If they when they expand
to twelve teams. These next two weeks are going to
be even more fun because imagine if you are uh,
let's say a Utah Oregon and you still have a
shot to be alive for a Patrol championship in the
spot in the playoff butt So you are, you know,
in North Carolina and you have a chance at this
(27:38):
or a Kansas State. I mean just it will bring
more fan bases in and I'll still I'll play out
in the cream, will always right in the crowd. You
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the time. My friend enjoyed the games. We'll talk to
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So the night in the NBA coming down to it,
(28:42):
one game left, and oh boy, the three and ten
Lakers are getting all they can handle from the three
and thirteen Pistons one oh four, one oh two. With
about eight minutes left to go, Anthony Davis has twenty
two and twelve rebounds. This is one of those games
where the Lakers have to say, Okay, if we don't
win this game, what really? What else is there to
(29:03):
do this season? What? Should we just trade everybody? Should
we trade Anthony Davis? Should we just get rid of everyone?
If we can't even without Lebron, If we can't win
this game, shouldn't we just move on? Oh? I like that?
Blow it all up going into the holidays. Holidays, holidays,
everybody has a nice dinner and then they burn it down.
(29:24):
I think that's how it works. If you can't win
this game, what game can you legitimately say, oh no,
we can win this one. The light a fire on
the big green egg and you uh you add the
Lakers roster as part of the game, and on the
the loser goes into five. Obviously, I'm talking about you know,
maybe a jersey or two of guys that are jettison
(29:46):
tow other squads, people to get their playing time reduced.
All of those things. It's all um symbolic, like in
ted Lasso when they were burning stuff and then they
wanted to throw the bottle of hooch in there and
they said, hey, no, no tricking that band. Boy's that
thing here. Uh So we'll keep you updated on this
game again. Eight minutes to go in the fourth quarter,
(30:08):
Lakers with a three point lead over the Pistons. Now
the game of the week in the NFL, you have
the Cowboys and the Vikings, and everybody's darling. Now the
Minnesota Vikings after their win last week. That catch by
Justin Jefferson, what down I means? Still call credit to catch?
(30:29):
Still call it's those clubs. Yeah, why should stick him out?
Laud But those things are allowed. It doesn't matter. Scooba
gloves one hand grabs makes no difference. These defensive beck
can't catch with two in the same damn clubs. Well
that's why these guys are wide receivers and the other
guys are defensive. Uh So, the Cowboys come into town
(30:52):
and it's the game of the week, right, like everybody's
gonna be getting this game most likely. Look there's three
late games, and the Raiders and Broncos both stink the
Bengals and Steelers as So, yeah, Cowboys vike. I'm sure
percent of the country is gonna get Cowboys vikings during
the Raiders and Broncos, I'm just gonna play a bunch
of sad Elvis songs, and oh boy, that's just gonna
(31:13):
be two to two here late in the fourth quarter.
You're lonesome tonight. We're gonna build up from the perspective
of the end zone. I wonder if you're lonesome tonight.
But I'm gonna go in this game with the Cowboys
all right. Now, Minnesota has had the brakes all season, right,
(31:35):
this is why they're in one. They're getting the brakes.
It's not that suddenly they're this much better than they
were the last few years. They're like Kirk Cousins said,
I don't know how we're doing it, but we're getting
the extra inches. And that's a great way to explain it.
Some years, the breaks even out for you, and that's
what's going on from Minnesota. A couple of games were
able to close out instead of throwing a pick. They
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get fortunate when they catch the Dolphins without to and
they get teddy Bridgewater. They go to London. London is
always a toss up game. They win there. Um, they've
been getting the brakes. It's a magic carpet ride and
enjoy it. But what happens is the brakes tend to
even out a little bit. Not that suddenly the Vikings
are gonna go on a on a on a big downturn.
But this week, give me the Cowboys, because watch the
(32:20):
miserable day that Kirk Cousins has against this Cowboys defense,
who was mad the way they gave away last week
to the Packers. They should not have given it up
that way. It's gonna be a three pick game for
Kirk Cousins. And it's one of those games every few weeks.
The Dallas says to the dak Prescott, Dad, you gotta
go win this game, going gut check game we lost.
(32:41):
You go win it and get our mojo back, and
this will be a three touchdown game for Dak and
a three pick game for Kirk Cousins. Still closer than
you think, but Dallas wins this game. I'm gonna say
twenty Cowboys, they get their their mojo back, the Vikings
get their breaks, evening out a little bit. Yeah, I
don't think I've heard anybody say get your mojo back,
(33:01):
unless you're doing Texas all the time, get your mom
or well then yeah, that was from a show from
thirty years ago. They still mojo football, they still say,
they still say mojo, they still do it. Yeah. I
was watching it a couple of weeks ago to uh
so I'm with you. Uh look, this one's interesting to me.
And I tried to to do the deep dive with
(33:23):
it with with Michael Parsons and I talked about it
earlier this week. That really didn't get picked up as
much as I'd hoped. Is you know, he was calling
out his squad a right, talking about covering guy's asses.
He lit a fire under him doing a lot of
great things as well. He did some good charitable work
and getting making sure people got fed so you gotta
give him some love there. But you're looking at a
(33:44):
defense it's gonna be salty. Um, so the run will
be more difficult for Dalvin Cook to exploit. So some
of that play action goes away and Kirk under duress. Yeah,
is he got only coming back whatever he adds to
Tony Pollard, You've got an explosive run game and ceedee
Lamb stepping up a bit more. Yeah, I think this
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is a spot where where Dallas gets right, if only
for a day leading into Thanksgiving. Yeah. Look, it's it's
not suddenly Dallas solves all their problems, but this is
one of those This is one of those weeks where, hey,
the matchup is there for them, the opportunistic defense is
gonna and and and it's a perfect it's a perfect
guy to play against, you know, can give you a
couple during any game. And Cousins. So it's it's more like, hey,
(34:27):
this matchup looks good for the Cowboys defense to get
back what they lost last week. Yeah, still fifth in
total defense, given up just eighteen point two points per game.
Bit's stingy. You know the secondary has come up with
big plays, uh in the past, and I just look
at with the Vikings. Even you factored into the line. Right,
Dallas is a narrow favorite on the road. People are
(34:48):
like why. It's like, look at what the Vikings have
done this year. It makes perfect sense. Twitter at how
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