December 3, 2022 • 37 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon discuss the Rangers shelling out the dough for SP Jacob deGrom for $185 million dollars, the Lakers HUGE win against the Bucks and Anthony Davis’ big night, Pac-12 Conference Championship and so much more!
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to Jacob de Gram, because we have to get to
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de Gram, let me just say, because you know what
the most fun thing about tonight is so far, the
most fun thing not this is not msdirect has been
exposed as with bad coaching decisions. We we will spend
lots of time on Jacob Degram, but the most fun
part of tonight as well so far, Yes, both you're in.
My prediction of Utah pulling the upset is alive and
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what But how much fun is it that the PAC
twelve championship game looks like a legitimate game, right, Like,
it looks like a conference champion. People are at the game,
it's on Big Fox. This is not those random Friday
nights of years past where four thousand people were at
Levi Stadium watching Oregon and Washington State. I mean, this
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looks like it's a legitimate game. This is like, hey, yeah,
we got playoff implications, we have a star team in US. Okay,
the PAC twelve titled game is legit. I'm I'm kind
of get that right now. It's an easy drive to
Las Vegas or a one hour flight from Los Angeles. Yeah,
all of those things factor in USC is relevant again
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for the first time, I guess since Sam Donald, if
we go there, and then before that, I was watching
all the pregame stuff. Let's see more of Reggie Bush.
You know that kind of thing. So yeah, all of
those things piled together and converge to make what has
been a fantastic first half with uh pageantry and the
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crowd shots are fantastic because you're like, patron, Patron, that
guy was beer, that guy like and you're and you're
just picking guys out of the crowd that are probably
getting cut off at their next run to the concession stand.
Uh uh, So it is. It's a fun game. It
looked for a while like USC was gonna roll away,
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and I really, I really thought the game was gonna
be the opposite. It was Utah that was gonna get
out big, and what USC has done all year long
is real teams. In second quarter, third quarter, Caleb Williams
gets going and USC winds up rolling through everybody. But
it's the exact opposite. USC looked like they were gonna
blow the doors off of Utah, and Utah withstands their
offense early, even though Caleb Williams had his highsman moment
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with that big video game run that's set up a
touchdown earlier in the first half, and now the game
is kind of settled a little bit. And this is
bad news for USC because USC relies on that tidal
wave of momentum with their offense continuing to roll that
team out there because all they gotta do is get
a stop once in a while, because this defense is awful.
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What they were lying is, Hey, the offense gets going,
we got a three in out, another touchdowns on the board.
Now maybe we allow a touchdown then, but our offense
scores a touchdown, we get another three in out. All
we need is a couple of three and outs with
the game being out of control and the other team
can't catch up. But this game has settled down at halftime.
Now Utah has forced U c USC into making mistakes.
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This is not where USC wanted to be and wants
to be at halftime. Momentum wise, they wanted to be. Hey,
this is the exact opposite. They wanted to be the
team scoring two touchdowns of the second quarter, getting Utah
thinking as they go into the break. Now Utah's got
USC thinking and hey, we gotta really step it up
again here in the second half. This is this is
not quite the formula USC has been used to so far.
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So if I look at this game, even though it's
tied at halftime, big time advantage to Utah. Yeahs, and
you just watched the momentum swing whether you believe in
it or not. Let you watch the flow of the game.
And i gotta say I've watched so much foodball slash soccer.
I'm like, wow, after that kickoff when he got went
down in at the two yards and I'm like, all right,
how much extra time is there? What we got here
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to finish the first half? No, just kidding, but but
just chaos, right, trying to get cute. Bad things can
and do happen. Thirteen plays, a hundred fifty yards, just
under seven minutes for those first two touchdowns for USC.
Then they kicked the short twenty yard fee old goal,
and you're you've got everything rolling right. You think it's
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fourteen to three Utah. At puntage, You've got the opportunity,
after a long protracted drive, defenses on the field to
go for a knockout blow. You kicked the twenty yard
field goal. Fine, you tak then fumbles, you get the
ball back, you go four plays two yards and from
the thirty seven. You go for it on fourth and
eight and don't get it. Instead of playing field position
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coffin corner kicks. Remember those. I know, I know that's
that's out there these days, but you know, we once
upon a time had those where it's just you know,
find your angle and get it inside the twenty and
if you were inside the ten. I actually scored a
fantasy league like that once upon a time. Given the
punter or some love fantasy big a nerd. Yeah, that's right,
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that's how big a nerve like your fantasy Look at you, man,
that's that's that's next coffin corner kicks and all that stuff. Yeah.
I knew there were people, but come on, fantasy punters.
It's amazing that didn't take off. I really can't believe
you're not sitting here Like Jeff Bezos, I think I
did the first podcast look at the hunched off. It
was and it was an addition that we ran uh
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simulations to see how well it would track. Who's if
you're gonna back when I was working at Yahoo, because
you were trying to include everything that was in the
game that was part of the the path. And now
nobody wants tight ends to have their own position or
kickers to be part of things, and team defense have
gone the way of the Dodo bird. A lot of leaks.
So you've got all of that flowing, and I love
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the Bezos thing. I raised both my middle fingers to you. Uh.
It was a little experiment, just kind of talking about
how the different parts of a football game could be
integrated in the fantasy And what did you do? You
tried to stomp on it just because you're mad, Jacob
Jacob de Graham left. Uh on you? I am you know.
Listen now, I'm glad you brought that up, because I
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am not mad that Jacob Degrod left. What did I
I wasn't done with my my my foot ball point. Okay,
well you you went to you brought up to Grom.
Oh no, no, no. I referenced it obliquely as a
quiet he's finished. You said Gram's name, You talked about
you and then started talking. You've talked about your plunning
fantasy league. You talked about the game, and you brought
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it back to the Grom. We also haven't bring it
back to you. Did We have a rule? It's got
a Jacob de Gram talk every four minutes on the
show tonight, Frostberg has an egg timer which he turns
over every time we say de Gram's name, because that
resets the counter every four minutes. We have to talk. Well,
it's a pretty big win there you go, taking care
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of business and could take his house to Texas. Nobody
cares that now, you guys, I need my first time
out right now. Yeah. The final point was that you
had Lincoln Riley with two opportunities that right now he's
in the locker room looking around, and what did I
do because I opened the door and now the defense
can't stop Utah seventeen seventeen while Dr Pepper halftime throw
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a football through a big can. Challenges going on. We'll
keep you updated on this game throughout the rest of
the show. But yes, both Mike and I told you
last night, Utah causing chaos the party in Columbus right
now and starting to eat up a little bit. Didn't
look good there for a while. But hey, not playing
even that's why. Hey, that's why the game is four
quarters long. It's not two quarters long. That's that. Sorry. Yes, yes,
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I am not upset. I've told you you are season no, no, no, no,
you are no no no. I saw your video that barstool. No,
that's not true. That was that was not my bad
angle for you. But I mean the sentiment really not
me not. I told you during the during the summer,
this was my long goodbye to Jacob deGrom. Right. De
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gram signs with the Texas Rangers. Big deal. Uh he
signs about an hour or so ago. Uh so much
for well, you know, we don't know where we're gonna go. No, no, no,
He decides, I want to go to the Texas Rangers.
I want to go finish my career in obscurity. A
five year deal. Hundred and eighty five million dollars. Depending
on what he reaches in his contract. You couldn't bring
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it up to as much as two million dollars. Okay,
number one the Mets. I'm glad they didn't get on
the hook for this contract because as much as I
love to grow him, he's gonna be thirty five years old.
He can't stay healthy, and I don't know how much
he wanted to stay to begin with. So when you
can't count on a guy and you just won a
hundred games, when the guy was a ghost, right, he
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had eleven starts, didn't feel like he was part of
the team they need him. At the end of the season,
he was just Okay, the Mets looked at that and said, yeah, okay,
we we would go for a couple two or three
years for him, but the Rangers, you want to go
give him five years because you're that starved for talent. Yeah,
go ahead, keep spending all that money like the Rangers
have done the past couple of seasons. I am, okay,
you can't give to grab that kind of money. It's
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a it's a bad investment because how long until he
gets hurt? Because that's what it is with him, He
can't day on the field. But this was what I
told you from the in the middle of the summer.
I'm not shocked at this. I'm not surprised because I
told you he wants to leave. He wants to leave.
He was mad about the contract he signed a couple
of years ago with his old agent who became the
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g M and Brody van Wagen, and all he has
said all season long was I'm opting out at the
end of the season. Anything changing that, No, okay, And
I get that because he knew he could get a
lot of money because he still Jacob deGrom and some
would give him money. So I get that. But just
like with Aaron Judge and the Yankees, there's been no
I really want to stay. There's been no public Hey,
I really want to work it out and stay. Free
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agency is free agency, but I really like it here
and I want to stay. There's been none of that.
The only thing we've gotten is from some of his
teammates who said, I talked to Jake and he said,
if the money is the same, I would like to stay.
That's a lot different from de Grand telling telling the public.
I want to stay. I want to be a Met.
I hope it works out. We're gonna do everything we can.
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Does this sound like it wasthing we can to stay?
From both sides? I'm sure de Gram called said, hey,
this is what the range of giving me. The Mets
said good luck, and to Gram said okay, see you later,
and that was it. He wanted to leave. This happened
very early in free agency. He signed that the Rangers
right away. What other teams were out there? Where the
teams could he have been talking to that he got
a no from or knowing that WEREND could assign him.
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This happened very quickly. He has never been public about staying.
I knew this was happening. He wanted to go, so
I'm glad the Mets are getting credit for. Hey, you know,
this is a this is a contract that you really
can't get involved in. But I don't know how much
they were really in it. I'm sure the Mets said, look,
two or three years at at forty odd million, we
can do that. Oh I'm getting five years and it's
gonna be up over two hundred million. Yeah, okay, we're
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not doing it. But I don't I don't know how
much the Mets are really in it. That this wasn't
de gram who I was leaving all along. And this
is exactly beginning. The calendar turns in December and Jacob
Deground leaves the first chance he gets. He was always gone.
He was always leaving and that's why it happened the
way it did today. From what Passing put out, it's
I mean, thirty seventy year for five years is a
guy that's made what thirty eight starts in the last
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three seasons. Now when he's available, he's fantastic. But we
do this in all sports, right, That's why Justin had
to point out the Lakers win again tonight. Anthony Davis
is still playing, and that gives you a chance, right,
So same thing with gram. When he's able to pitch
and available to pitch, you know you're getting a great five, six,
what seven innings whatever whatever that start is going to
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bring you. But availability is huge when you're talking about
that kind of money. Our buddy John palm Rossi talking
about it on his Twitter account, immediately started going through
all the numbers and the recent history of Carlos Rodan,
going all right, which do you want? Man? This guy's
four years younger, all these other things. So I can't
wait to see how much they break the bank for
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when it's all said and done. But to your point,
we've talked about it all year long between Atlanta and
Texas was always out there because money and their willingness
to to spend it in free agency. Do they spend well, no,
not necessarily, but they spend it. And here was an opportunity,
right the old UH saved the States sales tax going
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from New York and that that upper region, right, that's
ten percent of your money you're getting back. So this
is actually a much bigger raise when you come down
to that, which means, hey, Mets, you would have had
to overpay me to match this, right in terms of
a dollar, since not all dollars created equal in this regard.
But if there wasn't, he wasn't feeling the love. I
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mean how much you try to push it off on
the team. I don't know that that works as well
as it did maybe ten years ago. I don't know.
We're doing everything we can to try to get something done,
and you know it's been a great run. You know, No,
it's their fault. Hey, Jason, your videos up to eighty
four thousand views. Look at you. Way to make it happen.
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I can't wait to play and we just got to
clean it up. But I know you were upset, so
there's a lot of cussing. Okay, all right, make sure
you clean it up and we'll we'll be able to
play it. That'll be fine. New Jersey transit is the
absolute words. So there goes Jacob Degram to Texas. We
have a lot more on this story. I guarantee the
man's are gonna answer this quickly. Yes, the Lakers beat
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the Bucks. We got the third quarter of the Pack
twelve championship game getting set to kick off. It's a
big football Friday. We got Drew Brees and lightning. We
got upset specials. We gotta piste off. Mac Jones tell
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That's gonna happen. Tell Allen that's happening. That's not happening.
That's happening. It's not. Tell Alan it's happening. Tell Allen.
Tell all would be lucky if you get the Dark
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Night back. Tell Allen it's happening. Look. With Jacob Degram
going to the Rangers, I get it on. I meant
the picture. I know, I know what you meant. But
oh boy, this ship not the Batman character. This is
a don on on on on on on on on
on on Batman. Tell Alan Harmon, you need time outs
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to okay, I can't use all my time outs in
the first hour of the show. I want to watch
you squirm. You need time out. Look with Jacob Degram
going to the Rangers, he went to the Rangers. You
did yet, I don't want to go to the playoffs
ever again. I'm going to the range. He really left
the Mets from my from my twelve starts a year.
I'm gonna go make him in Arlington. You told America
for years he's the greatest picture ever living. Yeah he was. Yeah,
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it doesn't mean he's still not. He's just not his
picture exactly. Yeah, but he's still the best picture. Now
he hates him, just like he hated all the not Listen,
I told you he was going. It happened. He was
always leaving. The Mets are better off not having to
pay him because not forget about he's the best picture,
but forget about the money for a second. You would
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be going into the seat. Let's just say it was
less money, and it was way less. It was affordable.
Could you really go into next season saying, yeah, we
can count under Gram to be there all season four us, No,
he's found money. At this point, you're you're lucky. You're
get whatever you get from him. Every athlete gets to
that point in their career where they go from hey,
we can count on YouTube whatever we get from you
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as a bonus. And that's kind of what the Grom
has been the past year, play whatever the if the
Mets get any for him, grade as a bonus, but
you can't count on him. You couldn't even if the
Mets said, hey, Jacob Degram, how about three years and
twenty five dollars? All right? But you're still starting. Can
you start him every fifth day? Or is he gonna
miss a bunch of time and you're gonna have to
dip in and find somebody else. So now, at least,
rather than having to pull somebody up from Triple A
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who might not be ready, you make your plan accordingly, saying, Okay,
I know we don't have to gram. Let's get some
innings eaters. Maybe we bring back Chris Bassett, maybe, but
we we go out and get Verlander, wrote Dodge Jamison
tie on. The Mets are talking to him too. It's
better to go out and have players you know you
can count on. Because the Mets, no matter no matter
what the money was, you can't count underground. The Rangers
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can't even say they're counting underground. It's a gamble. But
it's the Rangers. What are you gonna do every couple
of years? And they're like the New Angels, where we
just give a whole bunch of money to people and
just hey, we have a good time here in obscurity.
That's kind of what the Rangers do. So now here's
what the grab. You know, they can't count on him.
If they're saying they're counting on him, it's ridiculous because
you can't count on him. He's gonna be thirty five,
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he can't stay healthy. He is a bonus. So I
agree for the for the Mets, yes, you had to
let him go. You couldn't bring him back. And now
Steve Cohen's gonna say, okay, you got your story tonight.
By Monday, the Mets are gonna have one, if not
two more star pitchers signed to big contracts. Book it's
Steve Cohen's not gonna let this new cycle go because
he's a fan as much as he is an owner.
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He's like, I don't want the back page to be
all by to Grob. What are we gonna do now?
Goodbye to Farewell? Who's that? No, it's gonna be big money.
It's gonna be your guy, Carlos Rodan, it's gonna be Verlander,
it's gonna be Ron Darling, it's gonna be good. It's
gonna be sit Fernandez ever gonna pitch in six We're
gonna have two more big pictures by Monday. Book it well.
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I like the bravado of it. Right. One of the
things I guess when you get to it with Steve
Cohen is he could have made the move if he
wanted to keep him. He could have paid that money.
Right we get into luxury taxes and all that fun stuff. Uh,
the more you spent because they he's certainly one of
the few owners at least that we're aware of, right
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as far as the processing of this stuff. Folks cry
poor in ownership all the time. But let's just say
from a a cash value and liquidity side of things,
this is a guy that if he decided to, he
could go deep into that level with without without an issue.
This becomes a decision that he didn't want to get
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to that mark for some of the analytics and and
health reasons that you talk about. The we have to
go sign another guy, couldn't you do it? Sure? But
you also want to make sure you're spending some money
fortifying your your guys in the batting lineup, right, and
you start spending on starting pitching, isn't that what the
Mets had done. It was all built around starting pitching,
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and then one by one they all started falling prey
to injuries and lower innings limits, and you had to
start shuffling around. You're not gonna get caught up in
that again, you know, learn from the mistake, especially when
it would be a two hundred million dollar one. I'm
telling you, just just wait, it'll be Scherzer, Rudon Verlander.
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It's gonna be all. It's gonna be glorious. In fact,
a Hoglander like Hollywood. Can we know? Now he likes
New York. Now sures will convince them to come to
New York. It'll be fine, ka Upton, We'll love New York.
It's a new thing. It's a couple of Hey, we'll
do a couple of years in New York. Then we'll
go out to it's absolutely washed New York. The guy
just wanted to sigh, young, what are you talking about?
Because he plays on a team where they cheat. Hey, listen,
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If Verlander doesn't sign with the Mets, look, there's not
much you can say about his reputation. If he does
sign with the Mets, will tell you this, he's not
a cheater. I mean, I'll right now, that's that's that's
that's how it's gonna go. Right there, the narrative of
the off season as late up Jason, I'll tell you
what if he goes here, Clearly he's clean as a
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whistle and one of the greatest pictures of all time.
This the day after we commemorated the passing of the spitter.
What are you gonna do the same thing I usually
do when when the Mets let somebody go, I turned
into goodwill. I let it go. You don't burn it.
Good luck WI your tears with it. I bought you know,
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as time has gone on, I buy so much less
gear with specific play years on it because I've been
burned on it so many times. It's the name on
the front of the jersey is more important, name on
the back. I always buy stuff I can keep I got.
The only time I really get upset is when teams
change logos. Come on. Man, Now, I got to get
the new stuff, and the old stuff is not gonna
look cool for like another fifteen years, So I gotta
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put it away for fifteen years. Then hope I can
still fit in it what I wear, because then it
looks like it's throwback stuff. Now that's what I get up.
I get more upset when teams change logos, when they
lose play one persons jersey for the front of it
players coming. Oh sure we all do? We all do?
We are all Mets. We are all met sheep, We
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pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific. But a big result in
the NBA, and you heard Steve talk about a couple
of seconds ago, the Lakers tonight defeat the Milwaukee Bucks.
Lakers go on the road and win it one thirty three,
one twenty nine. And there's two reasons why the Lakers
able to beat the Bucks night. First of all, it's
their signature win for the year. Now, maybe the Lakers
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it's not all gonna be bad for them, But clearly
what we saw, Mike was the Knicks tired the Bucks
out so much the other night. For the Lakers tonight,
I mean they took every ounce of energy to beat
the Knicks the other night. Then nothing, it was a
walkover game for the Lakers. Oh they had nothing left. Clearly, No,
I mean, that's neither team bothere. He won good lord,
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yeah yah has only scored eight points. He was four
of seventy four from the fix step not only scored forty.
I mean you want the Bucks? They led no energy tonight.
They said that's not the Knicks. What don't we care?
But I'm gonna ask you a question that it maybe
the question I would like answered more than anything else
in sports right now, even more so than who are
the Mets gonna get to replace? To grow up? Are
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the Lakers winning the championship? Yes? No, stat Frostburg just stopped. Man,
you're playing a little bit better. It's it's great you're
playing a little bit better that that. You're you're really
trying to go for the uh, the big play. You
gotta you gotta play, get the long protracted drive. You
don't need to hit home runs all the time. Anthony
Davis tonight forty four points, ten rebounds, four assists, and
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three blocks. He shot well from the floor. I want
to know what happened between games after the sacrament between
Sacramento and Brooklyn eight games ago that turned Anthony Davis
into this player because it was a switch that was flipped.
Because everything is up for him. His game involvement is
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what's up. He's taking He's making more shots because he's
taking more shots. His blocks are way up, his rebounds
are way up. He is much more active. What happened
between those games because the Anthony Davis we had seen
for the better part of the last three or four
years has been someone who I'm existing and getting by
on my physical gifts and when I can play, I play.
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When I'm hurt. I'm hurt, and I get hurt a lot.
I don't take care of my body. And when was
Anthony Davis ever going to be this player that we've
seen over the course of the past eight games. Yes,
he had earlier on in his career, he had shown
glimpses of it. He was fantastic. Look, the guy's got
a skill set for a big man, unlike anybody else
in the bleep in League. But something happened in between
(25:16):
those games that turned him into this player. Because it's
it's too coincidental for to go from am averaging twenty
to a game to suddenly now every game is a
twenty and ten and now I'm scoring thirty thirty five
points a game, forty points a game, everything is double
digits and rebounds with the fifteen sixteen rebounds? Was it
a meeting? Was it did Lebron James talk to him?
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Did the Lakers say, hey, a d this season is
not going very we're gonna trade you. But what what
was it? What was it that happened that turned Anthony
Davis into this guy? Because it was something. This wasn't
anything more than a d is out there now busted
his ass and being the player that we thought he
could be. So what was it? Did he finally just
have moment sitting by himself in front of the television, going, man,
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I gotta be better than this, got to be better
than this. What was it? Because it was something, It's
one thing, It's one decision that he made, and what
cause it? That's what I want to know. Darvin Ham
is gonna go out and become a motivational speaker because
he's bringing that guy that we we talked about what
five years ago, this guy's top three player in the game,
should be the top player in the game, all of
(26:20):
those things, and then you had the the championship year
that they had shortened fine whatever dominant and so waiting
to reclaim that I don't know if he's more comfortable
from a position standpoint that they came to some sort
of compromise as to how he's setting up on the
offensive end and certainly defensively. Uh. It's really been an
(26:44):
amazing last couple of weeks watching him work and seeing
it on a consistent basis, because that's all you're asking consistently,
Like if you if you're down, uh, and your game's
gotten from a stat perspective, starts to dip. Okay, fine,
you can adjust on it when it's highs lows, little
injuries can take you to the sidelines, all of those things.
(27:05):
It becomes a much difficult, much more difficult thing to
manage when you don't have a bench that you can
you think is gonna pick you up whatever it is.
And in that secret sauce, Darvin Hams pulled out, Uh hey,
I want some and be hope that they've got bottles
in reserve, because this team can actually be pretty interesting. Yeah,
(27:26):
it's it's just it's just really weird that this is
what's happened, Like, this is this is how they're doing it.
It's Anthony Davis just deciding I'm gonna be that guy,
which shows you that building around a D and Lebron. Okay,
what you see that a D is doing this, It's
not a bad idea. It's okay. Now, now, maybe we
(27:46):
go out and get a couple of guys. You know
that the deadline is coming up, when players who sign
in the off season can get traded. So the Lakers
are looking at the middle of December to when they
can start making moves. And is this going to be
when they say, okay, screw it, look at a D.
We're gonna go for it. I mean, maybe that's what
it is. A D just knew. Okay, I don't want
to I don't want this to just we run out
(28:07):
of time or whatever, and and and Lebron winds up
not playing and we wind up having another year or
I just hate basketball down the stretch, okay, let me
bust my ass. And then the Lakers will make it,
will make a big trade. Sometime in December, We'll move Ross,
will get some other players in. We will try to
build up with a couple more shooters, and maybe this
year won't be a loss to year force. Maybe it's
(28:28):
just gonna be a short term thing from I can
do it for you know, three weeks or so until
we get to that deadline to get a couple of players.
But it really it's something. It's something that I don't know.
Maybe it's starfin Ham, maybe it's not. Maybe I don't
know what it is, but it's something that turned him
into this. And if I'm a Lakers beat guy, I
am doing everything I can to overt to unearth what
(28:49):
happened between those games? There was one day off between
Sacramento in Brooklyn. What happened, what happened after that game,
before that game to turn a D into this guy?
What is it? That's like the biggest history in sports
because I because if if if you were able to
get a D to do that, Hey, man, I'll hire
you to coach my team. I don't even care if
you know if if you're not even a football coach,
(29:10):
I'll hire you to coach my football team. You have
a baseball you to coach my baseball team, man, because
if you could get that guy to play that way,
you can get my guys to play that way, even
if you have no background in the sport. Twitter and
how about a fresca Mike gets swollen down the Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. Uh coming
up next, Um, we might have a really big development
(29:35):
in the PAC twelve Championship game between Utah and USC.
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redeem rewards terms they do apply the PACT twelve Championship
game with everything on the line. If USC wins, they
are in the playoff. If not, that will open the
door for most likely in order Ohio State or Alabama
to jump into the playoff. Right now, there are four
(30:37):
minutes to go in the third quarter. Utah has come
from behind and take seventeen lead. They have the ball
right now at midfield. But this is the big development
in the course of the past few minutes. Now, on
the last possession that Utah had the football, USC backup
quarterback Miller Moss was warming up on the sideline. Caleb
Williams looked a little bit out of sorts and in discomfort.
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But Williams did come back out for the next offensive series.
He limped out to the field. The USC ran three
passing plays in which he stayed in the pocket the
entire time. His first two throws should have been intercepted,
they were not. His third pass should have been caught,
should have been a first down, it was dropped. Williams
limped back off the field. If he's not mobile, and
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he's gonna be a pocket quarterback the rest of this game.
Mike Harmon, I don't know how USC can win this.
He he clearly looks like he is strong. Now, look,
it's gonna take you know, it's it's gonna it's gonna
whatever it's gonna take from to come out of this game.
He's not coming out of this game. The guy's gonna
win the Heisman Trophy. He's been phenomenally started out red
hot today. But he just does not look like himself
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right now. And you can see that he's he's throwing
the football. You know, his ar mangles are always all
over the place. But now he's back throwing off his
back foot. I don't know if he's compensating for whatever
is wrong with him right now, but that last series
he did not look like the same guy. And if
this is the quarterback he is, he's just gonna sit
in the pocket. This is everything that you talk and
do to be able to clip down all the receivers
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not have to worry about spies or blitzing, being able
to keep him in the pocket, not running. This is
gonna make it so hard for usc to get down
the field. This is a huge development this game. Accuracy off.
One of those would be interceptions. The defender would have
walked in uh to the end zone. UH, and then
the umpire you had one of those unfortunate positioning for
(32:25):
him on what then could have been a first down throw.
But mobility, UH, latterly compromise. Accuracy is off. He's coming
in high and hot, uh, and now you're you're looking
at a world of well social media Welcome to the
Patch twelve title game. A lot of questions of did
the limbs get better as the get worse? I should say,
(32:47):
as the uh, the accuracy started to drift and and
you talk took over this game. Uh so he's taking
in the negative. Uh, as it works there for the
USC ocean. You're looking at a squad that made it
look easy for two possessions, hundred fifty total yards of
those two scores, hundred one total yards of offense since
(33:10):
some interesting coaching decisions, and now your star, presumptive Heisman
winner is limping around, very curious final twenty minutes of
action to come. Yeah, and it's not like this is
what started the momentum shift in Utah's favor. Utah had
already taken them. This is why we said we started
the show saying this is not where USC wants to be.
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Even though the game is tied, it's a huge Utah
advantage because how USC does things is that they're the
team that when the second quarter comes, they start heating up.
The offense puts touchdowns on the boards, the defense gets
a couple of timely three and ounce because look, you
can move up and down the field on USC at
will because the defense is just not there this year
for them. But this game was the complete opposite. Utah
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already seized all the momentum. They come out and some
bad tackling by USC, they get a touchdown to start
the third quarter, and now Caleb Williams is limping off
the field. I mean, this had already started for USC,
and it's it's a USC team and it goes to
show you sometimes and it doesn't matter who the coaches.
This is why I think both you and I picked
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Utah to win this game last night is that USC
has lost games like this so many times, games that
they have no business losing, that they should show up
and be able to win, and for reasons passing understanding,
they come up with a less than stellar effort. Teams
hang around when they shouldn't. USC should have buried Utah
four team three after the first quarter seventeen three. That's it, man,
(34:39):
it's a two touchdown league. With Caleb Williams. This game
is over. And it's not because USC does this. They
let teams hang around, they wind up in in shootouts
they shouldn't even be in, and they lose games like this,
whether it's Clay Helton or not. I've seen this from
USC so many times in the last few years. They
wind up losing games they have no business losing, and
it just happened to them. It doesn't matter who the
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coaches well, and right now you're you're starting to see
the bullyball, the run game for Utah, starting to get going,
that offensive line feeling good. I had a chance to
crank up the sound a little bit earlier and listening
to the broadcast as I went through, and Brock heard
was like, Hey, you look at the defense. They're having
fun right now, something you never get to say against USC.
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But they're flying around, they're reading Williams eyes and they're
anticipating and getting to the space. So now it's just
a matter of making him pay with some of those
errand throws. But it's really a curious thing. Now, I
gotta we gotta figure out whether this is true or not.
I mean it is through a blue check Mark account
from before the game that Williams had painted blank Utah
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and his nails. Yea, that legit? Okay, Yeah, because it's
been doing that the last couple of weeks for teams
they've been playing against. Yeah, I know there were the messages.
I hadn't seen the blank like four weeks ago. Well,
I've had that tattoo for nine and a half years.
Like I'm Max Katie working out during Cape Fear. Jason
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has on his nails tonight. Just wait, just wait. Bellinger
is gonna be our center fielder this year. You can have.
We're gonna play second base. It's gonna be We're gonna
get Kershaw. Are you getting Kershaw? You signed a one year,
twenty million dollar No, it's it's it's gonna be out
of it's gonna be outdated. What's gonna say. We're gonna
give you forty million just because we can dirty money.
(36:28):
We're coming for everybody. We're coming for every blood money.
We could have kept a grol if we wanted, we'd
let him go. Could could have kept him, let him go.
We just let him go. You're gonna miss him. If
there's a guys we want, we're gonna get him winning
games next year. Stop. Well yeah, the first forty games,
forty you know, we start the year, Rhodan will be
like seven and oh and Harvard's gonna be going. I'm
(36:49):
selling his rookie jersey. Who wants to buy it. I'm
selling that road. No no, no, I did. Carlos is
always you know his family, Twitter and out about a
frisk of my get swollen dome. We have more on
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de Gram, let me just say, because you know what
the most fun thing about tonight is so far, the
most fun thing not this is not msdirect has been
exposed as with bad coaching decisions. We we will spend
lots of time on Jacob Degram, but the most fun
part of tonight as well so far, Yes, both you're in.
My prediction of Utah pulling the upset is alive and
(01:25):
what But how much fun is it that the PAC
twelve championship game looks like a legitimate game, right, Like,
it looks like a conference champion. People are at the game,
it's on Big Fox. This is not those random Friday
nights of years past where four thousand people were at
Levi Stadium watching Oregon and Washington State. I mean, this
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looks like it's a legitimate game. This is like, hey, yeah,
we got playoff implications, we have a star team in US. Okay,
the PAC twelve titled game is legit. I'm I'm kind
of get that right now. It's an easy drive to
Las Vegas or a one hour flight from Los Angeles. Yeah,
all of those things factor in USC is relevant again
(02:10):
for the first time, I guess since Sam Donald, if
we go there, and then before that, I was watching
all the pregame stuff. Let's see more of Reggie Bush.
You know that kind of thing. So yeah, all of
those things piled together and converge to make what has
been a fantastic first half with uh pageantry and the
(02:32):
crowd shots are fantastic because you're like, patron, Patron, that
guy was beer, that guy like and you're and you're
just picking guys out of the crowd that are probably
getting cut off at their next run to the concession stand.
Uh uh, So it is. It's a fun game. It
looked for a while like USC was gonna roll away,
(02:55):
and I really, I really thought the game was gonna
be the opposite. It was Utah that was gonna get
out big, and what USC has done all year long
is real teams. In second quarter, third quarter, Caleb Williams
gets going and USC winds up rolling through everybody. But
it's the exact opposite. USC looked like they were gonna
blow the doors off of Utah, and Utah withstands their
offense early, even though Caleb Williams had his highsman moment
(03:17):
with that big video game run that's set up a
touchdown earlier in the first half, and now the game
is kind of settled a little bit. And this is
bad news for USC because USC relies on that tidal
wave of momentum with their offense continuing to roll that
team out there because all they gotta do is get
a stop once in a while, because this defense is awful.
(03:38):
What they were lying is, Hey, the offense gets going,
we got a three in out, another touchdowns on the board.
Now maybe we allow a touchdown then, but our offense
scores a touchdown, we get another three in out. All
we need is a couple of three and outs with
the game being out of control and the other team
can't catch up. But this game has settled down at halftime.
Now Utah has forced U c USC into making mistakes.
(04:00):
This is not where USC wanted to be and wants
to be at halftime. Momentum wise, they wanted to be. Hey,
this is the exact opposite. They wanted to be the
team scoring two touchdowns of the second quarter, getting Utah
thinking as they go into the break. Now Utah's got
USC thinking and hey, we gotta really step it up
again here in the second half. This is this is
not quite the formula USC has been used to so far.
(04:22):
So if I look at this game, even though it's
tied at halftime, big time advantage to Utah. Yeahs, and
you just watched the momentum swing whether you believe in
it or not. Let you watch the flow of the game.
And i gotta say I've watched so much foodball slash soccer.
I'm like, wow, after that kickoff when he got went
down in at the two yards and I'm like, all right,
how much extra time is there? What we got here
(04:42):
to finish the first half? No, just kidding, but but
just chaos, right, trying to get cute. Bad things can
and do happen. Thirteen plays, a hundred fifty yards, just
under seven minutes for those first two touchdowns for USC.
Then they kicked the short twenty yard fee old goal,
and you're you've got everything rolling right. You think it's
(05:05):
fourteen to three Utah. At puntage, You've got the opportunity,
after a long protracted drive, defenses on the field to
go for a knockout blow. You kicked the twenty yard
field goal. Fine, you tak then fumbles, you get the
ball back, you go four plays two yards and from
the thirty seven. You go for it on fourth and
eight and don't get it. Instead of playing field position
(05:28):
coffin corner kicks. Remember those. I know, I know that's
that's out there these days, but you know, we once
upon a time had those where it's just you know,
find your angle and get it inside the twenty and
if you were inside the ten. I actually scored a
fantasy league like that once upon a time. Given the
punter or some love fantasy big a nerd. Yeah, that's right,
(05:49):
that's how big a nerve like your fantasy Look at you, man,
that's that's that's next coffin corner kicks and all that stuff. Yeah.
I knew there were people, but come on, fantasy punters.
It's amazing that didn't take off. I really can't believe
you're not sitting here Like Jeff Bezos, I think I
did the first podcast look at the hunched off. It
was and it was an addition that we ran uh
(06:11):
simulations to see how well it would track. Who's if
you're gonna back when I was working at Yahoo, because
you were trying to include everything that was in the
game that was part of the the path. And now
nobody wants tight ends to have their own position or
kickers to be part of things, and team defense have
gone the way of the Dodo bird. A lot of leaks.
So you've got all of that flowing, and I love
(06:33):
the Bezos thing. I raised both my middle fingers to you. Uh.
It was a little experiment, just kind of talking about
how the different parts of a football game could be
integrated in the fantasy And what did you do? You
tried to stomp on it just because you're mad, Jacob
Jacob de Graham left. Uh on you? I am you know.
Listen now, I'm glad you brought that up, because I
(06:54):
am not mad that Jacob Degrod left. What did I
I wasn't done with my my my foot ball point. Okay,
well you you went to you brought up to Grom.
Oh no, no, no. I referenced it obliquely as a
quiet he's finished. You said Gram's name, You talked about
you and then started talking. You've talked about your plunning
fantasy league. You talked about the game, and you brought
(07:16):
it back to the Grom. We also haven't bring it
back to you. Did We have a rule? It's got
a Jacob de Gram talk every four minutes on the
show tonight, Frostberg has an egg timer which he turns
over every time we say de Gram's name, because that
resets the counter every four minutes. We have to talk. Well,
it's a pretty big win there you go, taking care
(07:37):
of business and could take his house to Texas. Nobody
cares that now, you guys, I need my first time
out right now. Yeah. The final point was that you
had Lincoln Riley with two opportunities that right now he's
in the locker room looking around, and what did I
do because I opened the door and now the defense
can't stop Utah seventeen seventeen while Dr Pepper halftime throw
(08:01):
a football through a big can. Challenges going on. We'll
keep you updated on this game throughout the rest of
the show. But yes, both Mike and I told you
last night, Utah causing chaos the party in Columbus right
now and starting to eat up a little bit. Didn't
look good there for a while. But hey, not playing
even that's why. Hey, that's why the game is four
quarters long. It's not two quarters long. That's that. Sorry. Yes, yes,
(08:27):
I am not upset. I've told you you are season no, no, no, no,
you are no no no. I saw your video that barstool. No,
that's not true. That was that was not my bad
angle for you. But I mean the sentiment really not
me not. I told you during the during the summer,
this was my long goodbye to Jacob deGrom. Right. De
(08:49):
gram signs with the Texas Rangers. Big deal. Uh he
signs about an hour or so ago. Uh so much
for well, you know, we don't know where we're gonna go. No, no, no,
He decides, I want to go to the Texas Rangers.
I want to go finish my career in obscurity. A
five year deal. Hundred and eighty five million dollars. Depending
on what he reaches in his contract. You couldn't bring
(09:11):
it up to as much as two million dollars. Okay,
number one the Mets. I'm glad they didn't get on
the hook for this contract because as much as I
love to grow him, he's gonna be thirty five years old.
He can't stay healthy, and I don't know how much
he wanted to stay to begin with. So when you
can't count on a guy and you just won a
hundred games, when the guy was a ghost, right, he
(09:33):
had eleven starts, didn't feel like he was part of
the team they need him. At the end of the season,
he was just Okay, the Mets looked at that and said, yeah, okay,
we we would go for a couple two or three
years for him, but the Rangers, you want to go
give him five years because you're that starved for talent. Yeah,
go ahead, keep spending all that money like the Rangers
have done the past couple of seasons. I am, okay,
you can't give to grab that kind of money. It's
(09:54):
a it's a bad investment because how long until he
gets hurt? Because that's what it is with him, He
can't day on the field. But this was what I
told you from the in the middle of the summer.
I'm not shocked at this. I'm not surprised because I
told you he wants to leave. He wants to leave.
He was mad about the contract he signed a couple
of years ago with his old agent who became the
(10:16):
g M and Brody van Wagen, and all he has
said all season long was I'm opting out at the
end of the season. Anything changing that, No, okay, And
I get that because he knew he could get a
lot of money because he still Jacob deGrom and some
would give him money. So I get that. But just
like with Aaron Judge and the Yankees, there's been no
I really want to stay. There's been no public Hey,
I really want to work it out and stay. Free
(10:37):
agency is free agency, but I really like it here
and I want to stay. There's been none of that.
The only thing we've gotten is from some of his
teammates who said, I talked to Jake and he said,
if the money is the same, I would like to stay.
That's a lot different from de Grand telling telling the public.
I want to stay. I want to be a Met.
I hope it works out. We're gonna do everything we can.
(10:58):
Does this sound like it wasthing we can to stay?
From both sides? I'm sure de Gram called said, hey,
this is what the range of giving me. The Mets
said good luck, and to Gram said okay, see you later,
and that was it. He wanted to leave. This happened
very early in free agency. He signed that the Rangers
right away. What other teams were out there? Where the
teams could he have been talking to that he got
a no from or knowing that WEREND could assign him.
(11:20):
This happened very quickly. He has never been public about staying.
I knew this was happening. He wanted to go, so
I'm glad the Mets are getting credit for. Hey, you know,
this is a this is a contract that you really
can't get involved in. But I don't know how much
they were really in it. I'm sure the Mets said, look,
two or three years at at forty odd million, we
can do that. Oh I'm getting five years and it's
gonna be up over two hundred million. Yeah, okay, we're
(11:41):
not doing it. But I don't I don't know how
much the Mets are really in it. That this wasn't
de gram who I was leaving all along. And this
is exactly beginning. The calendar turns in December and Jacob
Deground leaves the first chance he gets. He was always gone.
He was always leaving and that's why it happened the
way it did today. From what Passing put out, it's
I mean, thirty seventy year for five years is a
guy that's made what thirty eight starts in the last
(12:03):
three seasons. Now when he's available, he's fantastic. But we
do this in all sports, right, That's why Justin had
to point out the Lakers win again tonight. Anthony Davis
is still playing, and that gives you a chance, right,
So same thing with gram. When he's able to pitch
and available to pitch, you know you're getting a great five, six,
what seven innings whatever whatever that start is going to
(12:26):
bring you. But availability is huge when you're talking about
that kind of money. Our buddy John palm Rossi talking
about it on his Twitter account, immediately started going through
all the numbers and the recent history of Carlos Rodan,
going all right, which do you want? Man? This guy's
four years younger, all these other things. So I can't
wait to see how much they break the bank for
(12:47):
when it's all said and done. But to your point,
we've talked about it all year long between Atlanta and
Texas was always out there because money and their willingness
to to spend it in free agency. Do they spend well, no,
not necessarily, but they spend it. And here was an opportunity,
right the old UH saved the States sales tax going
(13:08):
from New York and that that upper region, right, that's
ten percent of your money you're getting back. So this
is actually a much bigger raise when you come down
to that, which means, hey, Mets, you would have had
to overpay me to match this, right in terms of
a dollar, since not all dollars created equal in this regard.
But if there wasn't, he wasn't feeling the love. I
(13:30):
mean how much you try to push it off on
the team. I don't know that that works as well
as it did maybe ten years ago. I don't know.
We're doing everything we can to try to get something done,
and you know it's been a great run. You know, No,
it's their fault. Hey, Jason, your videos up to eighty
four thousand views. Look at you. Way to make it happen.
(13:54):
I can't wait to play and we just got to
clean it up. But I know you were upset, so
there's a lot of cussing. Okay, all right, make sure
you clean it up and we'll we'll be able to
play it. That'll be fine. New Jersey transit is the
absolute words. So there goes Jacob Degram to Texas. We
have a lot more on this story. I guarantee the
man's are gonna answer this quickly. Yes, the Lakers beat
(14:15):
the Bucks. We got the third quarter of the Pack
twelve championship game getting set to kick off. It's a
big football Friday. We got Drew Brees and lightning. We
got upset specials. We gotta piste off. Mac Jones tell
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Mexican to sign Carlos road on Dulton for Lander by Monday.
That's gonna happen. Tell Allen that's happening. That's not happening.
That's happening. It's not. Tell Alan it's happening. Tell Allen.
Tell all would be lucky if you get the Dark
(16:06):
Night back. Tell Allen it's happening. Look. With Jacob Degram
going to the Rangers, I get it on. I meant
the picture. I know, I know what you meant. But
oh boy, this ship not the Batman character. This is
a don on on on on on on on on
on on Batman. Tell Alan Harmon, you need time outs
(16:30):
to okay, I can't use all my time outs in
the first hour of the show. I want to watch
you squirm. You need time out. Look with Jacob Degram
going to the Rangers, he went to the Rangers. You
did yet, I don't want to go to the playoffs
ever again. I'm going to the range. He really left
the Mets from my from my twelve starts a year.
I'm gonna go make him in Arlington. You told America
for years he's the greatest picture ever living. Yeah he was. Yeah,
(16:53):
it doesn't mean he's still not. He's just not his
picture exactly. Yeah, but he's still the best picture. Now
he hates him, just like he hated all the not Listen,
I told you he was going. It happened. He was
always leaving. The Mets are better off not having to
pay him because not forget about he's the best picture,
but forget about the money for a second. You would
(17:13):
be going into the seat. Let's just say it was
less money, and it was way less. It was affordable.
Could you really go into next season saying, yeah, we
can count under Gram to be there all season four us, No,
he's found money. At this point, you're you're lucky. You're
get whatever you get from him. Every athlete gets to
that point in their career where they go from hey,
we can count on YouTube whatever we get from you
(17:34):
as a bonus. And that's kind of what the Grom
has been the past year, play whatever the if the
Mets get any for him, grade as a bonus, but
you can't count on him. You couldn't even if the
Mets said, hey, Jacob Degram, how about three years and
twenty five dollars? All right? But you're still starting. Can
you start him every fifth day? Or is he gonna
miss a bunch of time and you're gonna have to
dip in and find somebody else. So now, at least,
rather than having to pull somebody up from Triple A
(17:55):
who might not be ready, you make your plan accordingly, saying, Okay,
I know we don't have to gram. Let's get some
innings eaters. Maybe we bring back Chris Bassett, maybe, but
we we go out and get Verlander, wrote Dodge Jamison
tie on. The Mets are talking to him too. It's
better to go out and have players you know you
can count on. Because the Mets, no matter no matter
what the money was, you can't count underground. The Rangers
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can't even say they're counting underground. It's a gamble. But
it's the Rangers. What are you gonna do every couple
of years? And they're like the New Angels, where we
just give a whole bunch of money to people and
just hey, we have a good time here in obscurity.
That's kind of what the Rangers do. So now here's
what the grab. You know, they can't count on him.
If they're saying they're counting on him, it's ridiculous because
you can't count on him. He's gonna be thirty five,
(18:36):
he can't stay healthy. He is a bonus. So I
agree for the for the Mets, yes, you had to
let him go. You couldn't bring him back. And now
Steve Cohen's gonna say, okay, you got your story tonight.
By Monday, the Mets are gonna have one, if not
two more star pitchers signed to big contracts. Book it's
Steve Cohen's not gonna let this new cycle go because
he's a fan as much as he is an owner.
(18:58):
He's like, I don't want the back page to be
all by to Grob. What are we gonna do now?
Goodbye to Farewell? Who's that? No, it's gonna be big money.
It's gonna be your guy, Carlos Rodan, it's gonna be Verlander,
it's gonna be Ron Darling, it's gonna be good. It's
gonna be sit Fernandez ever gonna pitch in six We're
gonna have two more big pictures by Monday. Book it well.
(19:22):
I like the bravado of it. Right. One of the
things I guess when you get to it with Steve
Cohen is he could have made the move if he
wanted to keep him. He could have paid that money.
Right we get into luxury taxes and all that fun stuff. Uh,
the more you spent because they he's certainly one of
the few owners at least that we're aware of, right
(19:42):
as far as the processing of this stuff. Folks cry
poor in ownership all the time. But let's just say
from a a cash value and liquidity side of things,
this is a guy that if he decided to, he
could go deep into that level with without without an issue.
This becomes a decision that he didn't want to get
(20:05):
to that mark for some of the analytics and and
health reasons that you talk about. The we have to
go sign another guy, couldn't you do it? Sure? But
you also want to make sure you're spending some money
fortifying your your guys in the batting lineup, right, and
you start spending on starting pitching, isn't that what the
Mets had done. It was all built around starting pitching,
(20:29):
and then one by one they all started falling prey
to injuries and lower innings limits, and you had to
start shuffling around. You're not gonna get caught up in
that again, you know, learn from the mistake, especially when
it would be a two hundred million dollar one. I'm
telling you, just just wait, it'll be Scherzer, Rudon Verlander.
(20:49):
It's gonna be all. It's gonna be glorious. In fact,
a Hoglander like Hollywood. Can we know? Now he likes
New York. Now sures will convince them to come to
New York. It'll be fine, ka Upton, We'll love New York.
It's a new thing. It's a couple of Hey, we'll
do a couple of years in New York. Then we'll
go out to it's absolutely washed New York. The guy
just wanted to sigh, young, what are you talking about?
Because he plays on a team where they cheat. Hey, listen,
(21:14):
If Verlander doesn't sign with the Mets, look, there's not
much you can say about his reputation. If he does
sign with the Mets, will tell you this, he's not
a cheater. I mean, I'll right now, that's that's that's
that's how it's gonna go. Right there, the narrative of
the off season as late up Jason, I'll tell you
what if he goes here, Clearly he's clean as a
(21:35):
whistle and one of the greatest pictures of all time.
This the day after we commemorated the passing of the spitter.
What are you gonna do the same thing I usually
do when when the Mets let somebody go, I turned
into goodwill. I let it go. You don't burn it.
Good luck WI your tears with it. I bought you know,
(21:55):
as time has gone on, I buy so much less
gear with specific play years on it because I've been
burned on it so many times. It's the name on
the front of the jersey is more important, name on
the back. I always buy stuff I can keep I got.
The only time I really get upset is when teams
change logos. Come on. Man, Now, I got to get
the new stuff, and the old stuff is not gonna
look cool for like another fifteen years, So I gotta
(22:17):
put it away for fifteen years. Then hope I can
still fit in it what I wear, because then it
looks like it's throwback stuff. Now that's what I get up.
I get more upset when teams change logos, when they
lose play one persons jersey for the front of it
players coming. Oh sure we all do? We all do?
We are all Mets. We are all met sheep, We
are all Mets. Be sure to catch live editions of
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harman weekdays at ten
(22:40):
pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific. But a big result in
the NBA, and you heard Steve talk about a couple
of seconds ago, the Lakers tonight defeat the Milwaukee Bucks.
Lakers go on the road and win it one thirty three,
one twenty nine. And there's two reasons why the Lakers
able to beat the Bucks night. First of all, it's
their signature win for the year. Now, maybe the Lakers
(23:02):
it's not all gonna be bad for them, But clearly
what we saw, Mike was the Knicks tired the Bucks
out so much the other night. For the Lakers tonight,
I mean they took every ounce of energy to beat
the Knicks the other night. Then nothing, it was a
walkover game for the Lakers. Oh they had nothing left. Clearly, No,
I mean, that's neither team bothere. He won good lord,
(23:28):
yeah yah has only scored eight points. He was four
of seventy four from the fix step not only scored forty.
I mean you want the Bucks? They led no energy tonight.
They said that's not the Knicks. What don't we care?
But I'm gonna ask you a question that it maybe
the question I would like answered more than anything else
in sports right now, even more so than who are
the Mets gonna get to replace? To grow up? Are
(23:50):
the Lakers winning the championship? Yes? No, stat Frostburg just stopped. Man,
you're playing a little bit better. It's it's great you're
playing a little bit better that that. You're you're really
trying to go for the uh, the big play. You
gotta you gotta play, get the long protracted drive. You
don't need to hit home runs all the time. Anthony
Davis tonight forty four points, ten rebounds, four assists, and
(24:11):
three blocks. He shot well from the floor. I want
to know what happened between games after the sacrament between
Sacramento and Brooklyn eight games ago that turned Anthony Davis
into this player because it was a switch that was flipped.
Because everything is up for him. His game involvement is
(24:33):
what's up. He's taking He's making more shots because he's
taking more shots. His blocks are way up, his rebounds
are way up. He is much more active. What happened
between those games because the Anthony Davis we had seen
for the better part of the last three or four
years has been someone who I'm existing and getting by
on my physical gifts and when I can play, I play.
(24:55):
When I'm hurt. I'm hurt, and I get hurt a lot.
I don't take care of my body. And when was
Anthony Davis ever going to be this player that we've
seen over the course of the past eight games. Yes,
he had earlier on in his career, he had shown
glimpses of it. He was fantastic. Look, the guy's got
a skill set for a big man, unlike anybody else
in the bleep in League. But something happened in between
(25:16):
those games that turned him into this player. Because it's
it's too coincidental for to go from am averaging twenty
to a game to suddenly now every game is a
twenty and ten and now I'm scoring thirty thirty five
points a game, forty points a game, everything is double
digits and rebounds with the fifteen sixteen rebounds? Was it
a meeting? Was it did Lebron James talk to him?
(25:36):
Did the Lakers say, hey, a d this season is
not going very we're gonna trade you. But what what
was it? What was it that happened that turned Anthony
Davis into this guy? Because it was something. This wasn't
anything more than a d is out there now busted
his ass and being the player that we thought he
could be. So what was it? Did he finally just
have moment sitting by himself in front of the television, going, man,
(25:58):
I gotta be better than this, got to be better
than this. What was it? Because it was something, It's
one thing, It's one decision that he made, and what
cause it? That's what I want to know. Darvin Ham
is gonna go out and become a motivational speaker because
he's bringing that guy that we we talked about what
five years ago, this guy's top three player in the game,
should be the top player in the game, all of
(26:20):
those things, and then you had the the championship year
that they had shortened fine whatever dominant and so waiting
to reclaim that I don't know if he's more comfortable
from a position standpoint that they came to some sort
of compromise as to how he's setting up on the
offensive end and certainly defensively. Uh. It's really been an
(26:44):
amazing last couple of weeks watching him work and seeing
it on a consistent basis, because that's all you're asking consistently,
Like if you if you're down, uh, and your game's
gotten from a stat perspective, starts to dip. Okay, fine,
you can adjust on it when it's highs lows, little
injuries can take you to the sidelines, all of those things.
(27:05):
It becomes a much difficult, much more difficult thing to
manage when you don't have a bench that you can
you think is gonna pick you up whatever it is.
And in that secret sauce, Darvin Hams pulled out, Uh hey,
I want some and be hope that they've got bottles
in reserve, because this team can actually be pretty interesting. Yeah,
(27:26):
it's it's just it's just really weird that this is
what's happened, Like, this is this is how they're doing it.
It's Anthony Davis just deciding I'm gonna be that guy,
which shows you that building around a D and Lebron. Okay,
what you see that a D is doing this, It's
not a bad idea. It's okay. Now, now, maybe we
(27:46):
go out and get a couple of guys. You know
that the deadline is coming up, when players who sign
in the off season can get traded. So the Lakers
are looking at the middle of December to when they
can start making moves. And is this going to be
when they say, okay, screw it, look at a D.
We're gonna go for it. I mean, maybe that's what
it is. A D just knew. Okay, I don't want
to I don't want this to just we run out
(28:07):
of time or whatever, and and and Lebron winds up
not playing and we wind up having another year or
I just hate basketball down the stretch, okay, let me
bust my ass. And then the Lakers will make it,
will make a big trade. Sometime in December, We'll move Ross,
will get some other players in. We will try to
build up with a couple more shooters, and maybe this
year won't be a loss to year force. Maybe it's
(28:28):
just gonna be a short term thing from I can
do it for you know, three weeks or so until
we get to that deadline to get a couple of players.
But it really it's something. It's something that I don't know.
Maybe it's starfin Ham, maybe it's not. Maybe I don't
know what it is, but it's something that turned him
into this. And if I'm a Lakers beat guy, I
am doing everything I can to overt to unearth what
(28:49):
happened between those games? There was one day off between
Sacramento in Brooklyn. What happened, what happened after that game,
before that game to turn a D into this guy?
What is it? That's like the biggest history in sports
because I because if if if you were able to
get a D to do that, Hey, man, I'll hire
you to coach my team. I don't even care if
you know if if you're not even a football coach,
(29:10):
I'll hire you to coach my football team. You have
a baseball you to coach my baseball team, man, because
if you could get that guy to play that way,
you can get my guys to play that way, even
if you have no background in the sport. Twitter and
how about a fresca Mike gets swollen down the Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. Uh coming
up next, Um, we might have a really big development
(29:35):
in the PAC twelve Championship game between Utah and USC.
Keep it right here, that's next. This is Fox Sports Radio.
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(29:55):
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redeem rewards terms they do apply the PACT twelve Championship
game with everything on the line. If USC wins, they
are in the playoff. If not, that will open the
door for most likely in order Ohio State or Alabama
to jump into the playoff. Right now, there are four
(30:37):
minutes to go in the third quarter. Utah has come
from behind and take seventeen lead. They have the ball
right now at midfield. But this is the big development
in the course of the past few minutes. Now, on
the last possession that Utah had the football, USC backup
quarterback Miller Moss was warming up on the sideline. Caleb
Williams looked a little bit out of sorts and in discomfort.
(30:59):
But Williams did come back out for the next offensive series.
He limped out to the field. The USC ran three
passing plays in which he stayed in the pocket the
entire time. His first two throws should have been intercepted,
they were not. His third pass should have been caught,
should have been a first down, it was dropped. Williams
limped back off the field. If he's not mobile, and
(31:21):
he's gonna be a pocket quarterback the rest of this game.
Mike Harmon, I don't know how USC can win this.
He he clearly looks like he is strong. Now, look,
it's gonna take you know, it's it's gonna it's gonna
whatever it's gonna take from to come out of this game.
He's not coming out of this game. The guy's gonna
win the Heisman Trophy. He's been phenomenally started out red
hot today. But he just does not look like himself
(31:42):
right now. And you can see that he's he's throwing
the football. You know, his ar mangles are always all
over the place. But now he's back throwing off his
back foot. I don't know if he's compensating for whatever
is wrong with him right now, but that last series
he did not look like the same guy. And if
this is the quarterback he is, he's just gonna sit
in the pocket. This is everything that you talk and
do to be able to clip down all the receivers
(32:04):
not have to worry about spies or blitzing, being able
to keep him in the pocket, not running. This is
gonna make it so hard for usc to get down
the field. This is a huge development this game. Accuracy off.
One of those would be interceptions. The defender would have
walked in uh to the end zone. UH, and then
the umpire you had one of those unfortunate positioning for
(32:25):
him on what then could have been a first down throw.
But mobility, UH, latterly compromise. Accuracy is off. He's coming
in high and hot, uh, and now you're you're looking
at a world of well social media Welcome to the
Patch twelve title game. A lot of questions of did
the limbs get better as the get worse? I should say,
(32:47):
as the uh, the accuracy started to drift and and
you talk took over this game. Uh so he's taking
in the negative. Uh, as it works there for the
USC ocean. You're looking at a squad that made it
look easy for two possessions, hundred fifty total yards of
those two scores, hundred one total yards of offense since
(33:10):
some interesting coaching decisions, and now your star, presumptive Heisman
winner is limping around, very curious final twenty minutes of
action to come. Yeah, and it's not like this is
what started the momentum shift in Utah's favor. Utah had
already taken them. This is why we said we started
the show saying this is not where USC wants to be.
(33:32):
Even though the game is tied, it's a huge Utah
advantage because how USC does things is that they're the
team that when the second quarter comes, they start heating up.
The offense puts touchdowns on the boards, the defense gets
a couple of timely three and ounce because look, you
can move up and down the field on USC at
will because the defense is just not there this year
for them. But this game was the complete opposite. Utah
(33:55):
already seized all the momentum. They come out and some
bad tackling by USC, they get a touchdown to start
the third quarter, and now Caleb Williams is limping off
the field. I mean, this had already started for USC,
and it's it's a USC team and it goes to
show you sometimes and it doesn't matter who the coaches.
This is why I think both you and I picked
(34:16):
Utah to win this game last night is that USC
has lost games like this so many times, games that
they have no business losing, that they should show up
and be able to win, and for reasons passing understanding,
they come up with a less than stellar effort. Teams
hang around when they shouldn't. USC should have buried Utah
four team three after the first quarter seventeen three. That's it, man,
(34:39):
it's a two touchdown league. With Caleb Williams. This game
is over. And it's not because USC does this. They
let teams hang around, they wind up in in shootouts
they shouldn't even be in, and they lose games like this,
whether it's Clay Helton or not. I've seen this from
USC so many times in the last few years. They
wind up losing games they have no business losing, and
it just happened to them. It doesn't matter who the
(35:01):
coaches well, and right now you're you're starting to see
the bullyball, the run game for Utah, starting to get going,
that offensive line feeling good. I had a chance to
crank up the sound a little bit earlier and listening
to the broadcast as I went through, and Brock heard
was like, Hey, you look at the defense. They're having
fun right now, something you never get to say against USC.
(35:21):
But they're flying around, they're reading Williams eyes and they're
anticipating and getting to the space. So now it's just
a matter of making him pay with some of those
errand throws. But it's really a curious thing. Now, I
gotta we gotta figure out whether this is true or not.
I mean it is through a blue check Mark account
from before the game that Williams had painted blank Utah
(35:44):
and his nails. Yea, that legit? Okay, Yeah, because it's
been doing that the last couple of weeks for teams
they've been playing against. Yeah, I know there were the messages.
I hadn't seen the blank like four weeks ago. Well,
I've had that tattoo for nine and a half years.
Like I'm Max Katie working out during Cape Fear. Jason
(36:04):
has on his nails tonight. Just wait, just wait. Bellinger
is gonna be our center fielder this year. You can have.
We're gonna play second base. It's gonna be We're gonna
get Kershaw. Are you getting Kershaw? You signed a one year,
twenty million dollar No, it's it's it's gonna be out
of it's gonna be outdated. What's gonna say. We're gonna
give you forty million just because we can dirty money.
(36:28):
We're coming for everybody. We're coming for every blood money.
We could have kept a grol if we wanted, we'd
let him go. Could could have kept him, let him go.
We just let him go. You're gonna miss him. If
there's a guys we want, we're gonna get him winning
games next year. Stop. Well yeah, the first forty games,
forty you know, we start the year, Rhodan will be
like seven and oh and Harvard's gonna be going. I'm
(36:49):
selling his rookie jersey. Who wants to buy it. I'm
selling that road. No no, no, I did. Carlos is
always you know his family, Twitter and out about a
frisk of my get swollen dome. We have more on
this game, plus a big NFL story on the way
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