December 15, 2022 • 37 mins
Mike Harmon and Dan Beyer open the second hour of the show talking about how NFL officials need to take some accountability when they consistently make terrible calls. Could the 49ers commit their future to Brock Purdy and move on from Trey Lance? Plus, a great discussion about storm chasers and weather reporters!
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Let's do it on down the National Football League. We've
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as always, tinkering and points of emphasis and all the
fun and excitement that goes there in and one of
the big topics becomes the roughing, the passer penalty, as
well as the defenseless players, defenseless receivers, et cetera, talking
about disqualifications, reviews of disqualifications, all of those kind of things,
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and a lot of it um just very very much
on the minds. The Phillips hit and I use hit
very nicely on Justin Herbert the other night where he
kind of laid him down kind of tenderly, kind of lovingly,
but because he got enough of his body on top
of him. And I know I made that sound far
seedier than it is, uh, but the fact that there
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was contact and he went to the ground with him,
he gets the fifteen yard flag. And anybody that's ever
watched down of high school, collegiate or professional foot ball
looked around and said, wait what. Even Justin Herbert looked
looked around like, wait, I got that. I've been hit
far harder, far far more egregiously outside the pocket, uh
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and blown up to no avail, And this one I get. Man.
I guess you balance the scales a little bit, but
when you have plays like that, and what a data
point that came out of a dan that I thought
was kind of interesting. Do you know roughing the passer
calls are down this year from watching the games, would
you have ever believed that? No, No, especially with some
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of the calls that that we have seen. Um, the
Tom Brady obviously one against the Falcons and Grady Jarrett
earlier on in the season is the one that I
think stands out as the most. But yeah, the one
that we saw this past you know, Sunday night. As
you mentioned, there are something that he didn't necessarily even
agree with, the brock Purty one in uh in his
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first snap against the Buccaneers this past weekend, although I
think that was roughing the pastor I actually agreed with
that call. It it's for some reason, Mike just gets
magnified in these situations, and I think it's because it's
a bad rule. Like the the protection of the the
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bending over backwards of trying to protect the quarterback is
I think the problem that that we have that we
we understand why we know that quarterbacks are the lifeblood
of the league and that's you know, that is their
money makers. So they're trying to protect the investment. But
it goes against everything that we think football to be.
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And so it is shocking that you have that number
because I think a lot of people would feel that
they were Actually it was an increase of six from
the instances that we've seen are the instances that have
been called. I think it also just tells you on
how subjective that call ends up being, right, like if
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if calls are down, but then one on Jalen Phillips
gets called, like you know there, there's there's something, there's
something wrong there, and you know that it reminds me
a little of Ram Saints with Actually it reminds me
a lot of Ram Saints in the NFC Championship game
on the past interference because we blamed you know, the
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lack of replay on it, when really it's the accountability
of the official to do their job correctly and and
and properly. And I think that's what we're seeing, you know,
in these situations is it may not be a league
wide issue, it may just be an individual official issue,
and but it gets magnified as as one because we
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so try to protect the signal callers in the NFL. Yeah,
I mean it's kind of curious, right, I do uh
a lot of running around right, the kid playing soccer
or whatever, not to acquaint it to the national pot
all league and the billions and billions of dollars and
eyeballs that are and every down, and certainly when we
have the Dolphins Chargers, that it goes back to the
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old standalone game, right, So what might have been an
egregious call at a one pm game? And I have
to use them here and I know I'm gonna get
the hate mail because the guys playing really well and
I want to celebrate everything about him. We had him
as the top five fantasy quarterback last week and he delivered.
But if it's a Jaguars game in the early window
on a Sunday, generally doesn't get the same love, right,
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It kind of gets brushed aside. Might might be a
bad hit, might get a notice, right, And that's the
kind of thing we would bring up with one of
our insiders, just kind of, hey, you know, why doesn't
this guy get the love respect? And we've done that
with quarterbacks, right with Justin Fields in Chicago. That was
a big question last year. A number of times he
would be getting rag dolls, like why is he not
getting the same protection as other quarterbacks and then we
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talked about earn calls whatever. But watching some of these games,
you know, like earlier my daughter played in what became
a runaway game. They ended up blowing the team out,
but then there were a couple of fouls in the
second half that the ref kind of just shrug ad like, not,
I'm not gonna give to you because you're already blowing
this team out, whereas in a close game the whistle
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probably blows. And I mean not that I got the
full explanation from him, but that's the assumption based on
a similar play that would be called in the first
ten minutes of a nil nil game. But once it's row,
it's like running clock. Let's just get out of here
and get everybody gone. So the same thing here. Sometimes
we will wonder about that with games, but certainly in
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the standalone games when you got a guy like Herbert,
and we've talked about the two of versus Herban thing.
I think it's been going the last few days almost
on a white hot level, kind of like you just
left the oven on and just keept putting more food
in there because you're you're you're feeding an army for
the holidays. Um, it's that kind of thing. I don't
need to stoke that fire anymore, but justin Herbert certainly
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one of those guys that people are desirous of a
a massive run from him. So uh, certainly it gets
magnified there. Yeah, and is you know the talk today
is do you re review those sort of plays? Are
we reviewing it to make sure that the quarterback is
safe or are we reviewing it to protect the defensive
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player in that scenario? How shocking would that be something
that goes for the defense? Yeah, because Troy then said
the quote was quote quarterback goes down by a head.
Obviously there's a flag on the field. Should that player
be automatically ejected? Should it be a reviewable play? That'll
be a topic of what's reviewed and what should be reviewable.
So yeah, is like where are you trying to find
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some happy medium there? And again adding an extra safeguard
for officials. I mean does that come from? Do you
have to throw a challenge flag? Is it automatically reviewed
in New York? I mean there's a bunch of permutations
to it that could make it pretty unwieldy pretty fast.
If you were, like if if Mike McDaniel had the
opportunity to you know, review that play because he didn't
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think it would be roughing the past there. I just
I don't know how you overturn it, right, like, like
how would you like be like, Okay, I guess it
wasn't that bad. He didn't hit him that bad. Is
that now the new level? Because as it's as it's written,
as it's been interpreted, the body landed on him, and yes,
the body still landed on Herbert, Yeah, just not with
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violent force. Do we have to have some kind of
what do we use a seismograph that magister registers earthquakes?
How violently did he really take him to the ground?
And that's you know, this is all goes back to
the Aaron Rodgers Anthony Bar play when Bar drove him
into the turf and hurt Roger shoulders, And yeah, you
don't want those plays to happen, you know, you know
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in the National Football League. But nobody needs any George Gumbies. Yeah,
well yeah, they're like there's there's like this rule did
not completely eliminate that play, like it still could happen
in the National Football League And you know, a fifteen
yard penalty or an ejection I think those plays are
still going to happen. I just I don't know, Like
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why you know replay would do anything with this? I
I just I don't see. I don't see how an
official could could overturn that, because we would had we'd
have Terry mcaulay popping in. You know, by the letter
of the law, the defenser did land on top of Herbert,
So this is a fifteen yard penalty. And then you know,
so now we get into the objective, you know, and
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in this all being subjective, and then we're back to
square one. So what's the point of having replay? It
would be just like just like it was with past interference,
Like there are penalties that should be reviewed, like I
I think face mask penalties and horse collar penalties are
so easy to be reviewed, Mike, And those are fifteen
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yard penalties. Those are significant penalties. So to me, like
if I'm not a I'm not a pro replay guy,
I'm not an anti replay guy. But how many times
do you see a guy's head get, you know, turn
a hundred and eighty degrees practically, and no flag come
out and everybody sees it. You know, if you want
to replay, you looked at a face mask and and
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you saw it. Easy. Easy to enforce this not so much.
I don't know, like how you would do this. Guy
grabs the nameplate, pulls a guy down. You know what
that is? Horse collar? Fifteen yards and that's significant enough
to stop a game, right like that? I mean it
is like, you know, fifteen yards automatic first down. That's
I'm I just this is not the place for it. Yeah,
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we get into that hard part when we get into
pass interference calls. When you know, huge game changers, they
are forty yards, fifty yards. The guy throws a wounded
duck and because they're trying to judge the flight of
the ball and the receiver stops on a dime, a
guy makes some incidental contact that jostles them just enough
the flag comes out. We'll talk about the other permutation
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part of this. They're talking about disqualifications in the College
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vein Stephen Jones, who's on the competition committee. Uh, first
time we've said somebody else's name that isn't Jeff Fisher.
Mind you, Well, I don't want to go to the
College rule me personally. Let's say you're playing in a
playoff game, controversial call and you lose your player for
the game, and then it turns out you shouldn't have.
And that's where I struggle again. We're judging intent right
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on a lot of those plays, like if it's helmet
to helmet, uh, and the catapulting and all of those things.
I know there's permutations in the in the rules interpretation
as it is, but we know the giant pink envelopes
are gonna be there for the fines and if they
are repeat offender, then well we we know the schedule
of those starts to to blow up pretty fast. You know.
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Vincent was quoted as saying, Hey, I don't think that's
in the best interest of the game called on the field,
played on the field. Replays there to assist the clear
and obvious, and that chasing perfection is a dangerous place
to go. I do think that I do think that
they're like the NFL, who's cleaner with their hits. They
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may be more vicious because they're faster and speed. Absolutely, yeah,
like may, but like college, it can get reckless, you know,
just guys aren't a skilled you know enough that's it
can get dangerous in college. But I just think in
the NFL that, uh, they are um smart enough like
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that there's you know, like how like you wouldn't again
going back to jail and Phillips. You're not objecting him
for that sort of play, you know, but like we
know something's egregious when we see it, you know. And
I just I don't think that that's I don't think
that's a problem that the NFL has right now. I
just I don't. I don't think that's I don't think
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it's an issue. I think it gets checked pretty easily.
I mean, we can go back to some of the
big offenders of years past and you know all who
they were. I mean, when you'd have repeat questions of
hits from guys like Vantes perfect and stuff like that.
But right now it's been pretty clean. Yeah, are are
there moments and bang bang plays. Some of it is
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the defenders got no chance, right if he's running and
all of a sudden the quarterback decides to take a
late slide or suddenly juke towards going out of bounds
when he's already leaping to try to get to the
spot to cut off another five yard gain or whatever.
I mean, we already see those. It's it's really hard
to legislate that and say, Okay, nope, that's that's egregious
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and you should be thrown out. Yeah. I I also
think Mike can you mentioned like the perfect hit, Like,
I think NFL offenses have kind of moved away from
that in their offenses. They're not putting their guys at
risk because it's not worth it. Like you know, like
in everything trending towards towards the offenses, it always does.
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This is actually one that's gone back that I think
teams are like, you know what, we can't afford to
have our our slot receiver get lit up, you know,
by the waiting linebacker, and they're just not doing those anymore.
I'm not saying that they're completely gone from the National
Football League, but like, how long ago was the perfect hit,
you know, and we're still referencing it. You know we're
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in college football. Gosh, it seems like every single week.
You know, if you if you're watching from you know,
noon Eastern until midnight, you know you you've seen at
least one targeting injection in a college game that you watch,
you get that. Yeah, I think that the NFL has
cleaned up, you know a little bit in that aspect.
I wonder if there's any over unders on the total
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of a given college football Saturday, Bobby Wagner, your former linebacker.
NFL does not need to eject players for hits like college.
That's why I stopped watching college. I think you're a liar, Bobby.
That's okay, uh An State may not be as good anymore,
so that's maybe you know he's not there. If you are,
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you just injecting a parenthetical my college. I just you know,
I may have been a little cheap on the Eggies.
I'm not even sure how they fared this year, but
that you know, it could be a reason you tot
they were six and six overall. Maybe that's why you
not showing off and not falling behind meaty part of
the curve. Any first responder will tell you never try
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to beat a train after breaking it could take a
mile for a train to completely stop, so when you
come to a rail crossing stop because trains can't coming
out next the Shiny New Start. He was on full
display on Fox until they took that game off the air.
A lot of people still scratching their head over that one.
But the hero worship has begun in the Bay Area,
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isn't warranted? Or should there be someone else up on
the mantel? We'll talk about it next year on Fox.
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d if we go leg Yes, a all over by
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the Carolina Panthers, UH three point underdogs at all forty
three and a half. The total, The wishing, wanting, hoping
that Kenneth Walker is somehow able to get back on
the field and be the man you need him to
be in support of ge no ge no. But brock
Purty is on the injury report. Just when you thought
it was safe with your new savior in the Bay Area,
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we don't need any of these steaking veteran quarterbacks. We
got a guy on the cheap and he looks like
he's fourteen years old, and he's there, and he had
gotten tickets for his parents not to come see him play,
but because maybe they could get a glimpse, and I'm
eating greet with Tom Brady instead. Now you got him
questionable because he's got an oblique slash rib injury. Funny
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that I honestly in seeing how the Seahawks have been
run over by the Raiders and run over by the Panthers,
and you know what San Francisco likes, no debos hurt.
But uh, you would think that you could see a
lot of McCaffrey and Mason for the for the Niners.
I almost think that the three points is I thought
it would be like six six and a half, honestly,
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um for how good San Francisco is in the love
for them. But I think it's three because of Purty,
and that just tells you, like the love. I could
be wrong, by the way. I am not a Vegas
expert by any means, but just my amateur opinion. It's
because of his status. And if you have to play
Josh Johnson then it is a completely different story. But
if pretty plays like San Francisco just matches up so
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well the dominant of the Seahawks in their first meeting earlier,
you know, this year, it's but it's just crazy that
it's come to this point that I think the Vegas
line is even you know, being affected by one brock
Birdie hell of an effort and some big throws, some
trust from Kyle Shanahan and the offensive brain trust. There
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in a complete dismantling of what had been, at least
to that point, a pretty formidable Tampa Bay defense. Right.
We came into that the week you and I do
in the the Eye Watch Flex podcast and just wondering
how many points you're gonna see whether it was going
to become a field goal kicking contest. Instead, Tampa Bay's
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defense couldn't get off the field. Big play after big play,
you have, Debo gets hurt. Now he's done probably through
the end of the regular season. Hopefully he's back for
the playoffs. But you have Jerry Rice among other people, go,
why is he running inside? What are we doing? We
have running backs to do that. Give the ball to Mason,
Give it to McCaffrey again. There there chunk plays, but
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pretty looks really comfortable. You got George Kittle who's back
uh in a viable option again and flying around a bit.
Brandon Ayuk, who has been hit or missed throughout the
year right in terms of his target count. Suddenly he's
running free and pretty laying out a nice ball. I'm
not gonna do the purty purty. Jason killed it by
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doing all sorts of burmanisms last week after Purtty first
entered the game, So I can't do it again. Dan
can't do it, um. But there's a bigger point to this.
Quick reminder, ready first responder will tell you never try
to beat the train after breaking. You can take a
mile for a raining to completely stop. So when you
come to a rail crossing stop because trains can't One
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of the things, as we were talking about in our
our pre show conversation and kind of going across the
veritable cornucopia of topics. Was everybody anointing Brock Purdy needs
to take a step back, And I agree wholeheartedly. Yeah,
I I think that it's it's great to get wrapped
up into all of this, but you really have to
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take a step back and look where Brock Purty is
and what Brock Purdy is doing and what quarterbacks have
done in the past. This is to me, and I've
not been a huge, huge Kyle Shanahan fan just because
I think everybody else overvalues his greatness. But I'll give
him credit and I do think he knows more than
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Jerry Rice about what he wants to do in his scheme.
So there is a reason why Debo is running in
that spot. But to see what Kyle Shanahan has been
able to do with just average quarterbacks you know, around
the NFL, and to see what he's been able to
do with Jimmy Garoppolo, to see what he's been able
to do with Nick Bullens. Remember C. J. Bethard was
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you know, thought of as a at one point as
you know, what a what a revelation for the forty Niners,
that system and the players that they have around like
Michael Parsons and Von Miller talking about the Eagles. I
think that's what you gotta do with the forty Niners
because that's the spot that I think brock Purdy is in,
Like Kyle Shanahan's the one that should be getting all
the praise that they're on their third string quarterback and
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aren't missing a beat on offense. This isn't a this
isn't and and John Lynch as well for constructing constructing
a team that will allow you to get to your
third string quarterback. And that's what purty is because Trey
Lance was number one and Jimmy Garoppolo was number two,
and now brock Purdy is number three. And heck if
they have Josh Johnson Thursday night and go to Seattle
and win, and you know, win with a fourth string quarterback,
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like that's it's not on the quarterback like I love.
I love how people like to get wrap up in
these stories. And it's a neat story. And if brock
Purdy takes into the Promised Land, it's gonna be a
conversation we'll be having all off season about what they do.
But right now, to me, all of the roses and
the flowers, if we use that phrase again like I
did earlier. I think they go to Kyle Shanahan. I
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think that's the to have a system that you can
just put any pretty much any guy in and be successful.
Is the tip of the cap to the coach. Yeah, Dan,
I I've used because I am an old man, uh
and I watched a lot of Brady Bunch reruns as
a kid. The Johnny Bravos suit. You fit the suit man,
that's it, you fit the Here's what our offense is.
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Can you work in this offense? Can I mold you
to work in this offense? Can I get you to
sweat off three pounds before show date so you fit
the suit to take the stage. That's kind of where
we're at here. Not to diminish what brock Purty is doing,
because there's a lot of talent, right as you mentioned
with Parsons, von Miller, others raising their hand, going, man,
they got weapons for days in Philadelphia. Well that's what
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San Francisco didn't already had pretty good weapons. You and
I have talked a lot about Jeff Wilson and I
are liking of of course, his fumble the other night
not good, and then he gets banged up uh and
miss this time. But the the idea that you had
a good running game, multi pronged approach, and then you
bring in a guy like McCaffrey who might take away
some of the targets, but it becomes more quality chances
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for other players in that offense, right, you know, you
start pulling the strings and if it's working efficiently, as
Shanahan has been wont to do, and let's face it,
when they've struggled, where the struggle have been in the
injury reports going over the last couple of years where
it was a match unit and it was like scrolling.
Here's the injury report for the forty Niners. It's like
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the end of a cable television movie on TBS or
t n T when they're trying to start the other one.
It goes into a small screen and the lower right
and goes really fast. So it's done the same thing
with the forty Niners injury report for much of the year.
It's and listen this this plug in play is also
at the running back position, like like you mentioned, you know,
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Jeff Wilson and now McCaffrey being there. What about Elijah Mitchella,
Mitchell Jordan Mason, like in previous years. You know, I
think of guys Jerk McKinnon and his short tenure there
that I know is, you know feel like there's they
just would put guys, you know, like guys can fill
the spots and fill the role and have success and
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they go elsewhere and maybe they aren't having the success
that they had in the fourth you know with the
forty nine. That's the other thing with Brock Purty that
I think that Mike I think is a good litmus test.
If both Purty and Garoppolo are free agents after this season,
who are teams going after? And I think it's Garoppolo.
I think like like if you're the Houston Texans, let's
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you say, you know you're making a decision, you're moving on,
you're not going to use a quarterback with the number
one overall pick, which they will. But just for this argument,
you're bringing in Garoppolo, You're bringing in Purdy, You're bringing
in Garoppolo. That's what you're doing. Like nobody's you know,
it's working right now and it's the story and it's
the hot button topic. But when you still sit back
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and take a look, like I think we just did
the slowdown just a little bit on on the Purdy Party.
I like that fast. I mean, how many times have
even heard Man, this kid's this kid's got it? The
kids got it. The Buccaneers just played a Monday night
game against their division rival and they normally struggle against Yeah,
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I needed too late touchdowns, including on the last play
of the game. And then I have to go and
fly across the country on a short week and play
the most dangerous rushing offense in the National Football League.
How's that gonna work out for you? You know, I don't.
I don't care who you are. It's not gonna work
out too well, Brady. You know, they have their only
issues on the offense the side of the board. But
you know that defense doesn't give up thirty five points normally,
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like it's just it, and they did on Sunday. So
I just you know, I like, I love the story,
but I just think that were such prisoners at the moment,
such prisoners at the moment, Mike, this kid's got it. No,
this kids got it? Well, then why didn't we talk
about him maybe taking the job when Trey Lance went
down hurt? You know, I was injured, Like, why wasn't that, yeah, boy,
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And they kept him and they and he stayed around
all offseason. Remember he was supposed to get trade and
they didn't. You can blame the shoulder. You can also
say up in that room, they knew what they had
in what Jimmy Garoppolo is. He may not be the
guy and the soup may not fit in other locations,
see what I did there back there, but he's sure
as ella is fit in Kyle Shanahan's offense went healthy
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year after year. The Jimmy Garoppolo trade that didn't happen.
Sure brock Party would have been the backup, but guess what,
they made the decision to not trade him, and then
you know had their own you know whatever, if they
were going to trade, wait for a quarterback injury just
happened to you know, be their team that had it,
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if Mike, if they were a believer that much in
the in the purty, then Garoppolo would have been dealt.
There's no doubt in my mind. And so that's why
I just all this. You know, like they loved him,
they probably did, but they you know, they didn't expect
that this would you know, that this amount of success
would happen this early. But again, it's it's the system,
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and it's it's it's what Kyle Shanahan does and the
pieces around him and the different stuff. I'm sounding like
Michael Parsons. I totally, I am totally going to tweet
that out Dan Buyer, a system quarterback. Oh there you go?
How dare you besmirged the good name of this budding
superstar Dan Buyer. Be sure to catch live editions of
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The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten
pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and
the I Heart Radio app. Know that thirty five of
his wins have come with Garoppolo. Again, we've we've kind
of got back things out beyond just Jimmy g as
as a winner. We understand that he does exactly what
Shanahan wants in that offense and orchestrates it the backing
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it out as I'd be want to do if we
really want to do the deep dive. A alysis is
what's the rest of the squad looking like when Jimmy
g isn't there right in terms of other key players
who may be missing on either side of the ball,
What was the point? What was the well just because
he's Shanahan's I think it's like eight and twenty eight
(28:32):
or something like that with quarterbacks not named Jimmy G.
Which I understand that from a records perspective, but it's
it's an easy one off, right, It's like taking any
piece of data out of a Sunday football game. You
might have had a guy bottled up all day long,
and scheme might have been right, like we talked about
in fantasy all the time. All right, I called this
(28:53):
guy cold play and for nineteen carries. I mean it's
the old Barry Sanders thing. They got him and corraled
him for nineteen carries for and then he races for
seventy five yards and a score on that next car.
Here's here's you know, like and this is I guess
you know to the point you know that's being asked
(29:13):
with that of like where is you know, like isn't
isn't that like if if he's is that is that
stat trying to support how good Jimmy G is? Because
I think this is a brock Purty discussion that we're having,
right like this is this is and and and that's
(29:33):
where that's where we like come along with this stuff
of like with Purty being you know, just the I
don't want say Johnny Coom lately, but you know he's
put into the spot and it's looked really good in
his first two games. But I just remember the Nick
Mullins craze there that weren't that good. Actor was even
the Jimmy G craze when he came over from the
(29:54):
forty niners and they stunk, you know, And a lot
of those losses that that Kyle Shanahan endure did come
after the Jimmy G a c l injury, but there
were other injuries that happened, and then you look at
what happened what you know two years ago, and you
know Nick Bosa gets hurt and you know they said
injury after injury, like there's yeah, like those things pile up.
(30:16):
You look at the pieces. But now if George Kittle
is back healthy and Debo unfortunately isn't, you know, they've
got their their team in the pieces that are there
and that's what makes them go. And I just if
you look at the losses that they have, I don't
think they had the same team around who was ever
the quarterback at the time and that's the larger point, right,
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It's all we can take stats and a vacuum and
and it's good for the sake of arguments and for
sports talk radio and for me when I just want
a champion. Jimmy g just to shut Jason up at times.
I mean, it's it's fun around. He's also a White
Sox fan, and since there are foot so few of us,
we gotta stick together. So I got that going for
(30:56):
me too. I got you know, you know Obama as well.
So he always stuck, you know, with the White Sox cap.
And he was throwing up first pitches and then one
asked who his favorite was. Um took a minute. Anyway,
any first responder will tell you never trying to be
the train after breaking. You can take a mile for
a train to completely stop, so when you come to
(31:18):
a rail crossing stop, because trains can't. I mean, I
guess at that point when when he would have been
asked about it, he wasn't watching sports content where Frank
Thomas was trying to shill for products. And she'll like
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on both sides of the Seahawks and the forty Niners. Well,
that begins Week fifteen in the National Football League, and
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You want us to clip that off for you, Hey,
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Well you know now that becomes a drop you just laughs,
like yes, all right. So earlier in the show, we'll
get to fantasy football as we continue, because this is
this is a more pressing thing. And Moncy, if you're there,
crack that microphone. This is something that we talked about
(32:49):
earlier as related to the battle between Oklahoma City and
Miami and your idea that you know, we should be
on something akin to a store watch here and we
went looking for for information. There should be a Doppler
trophy or something like with these two teams play. Can
we name it after an NBA great? Sorry, it's named
(33:12):
after the Doppler radar Mike, come on? And I was gonna, well,
I mean, can we name it after Kareem ab Dul
Jabbar because he's gonna be mad and he got screwed
on the n v B award. Uh So, So, Monty,
did you have any luck in finding any unique weather
names in Miami or Oklahoma City? Did have any luck?
I'm here? What? Yeah? Did you have any luck in
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finding any unique weather you guys? So disappointing? Yes, so disappointing. No,
no one did you find? The only one I found
kind of was Storm Jones. Okay, that's the honestly, that's
the only one. And this was for Oklahoma. Okay, this
(33:56):
this actually this blew my mind because I looked as well,
and I didn't find mind any but the the UH,
I believe the ABC affiliates in UH in Oklahoma City
is kao ceo. That's the the uh the Oklahoma City affiliate.
Now I want to go around to every big A
as well. I want to get his thoughts. If I
(34:17):
were to tell you that this news team had thirteen members,
this weather team at thirteen members members? Yes, how many
storm chasers do you think they have that make up
the third actual storm chase? Yes? Yes, this is this
is where this is so out of the turn. Yeah,
how many do you think are storm chasers? You want
(34:42):
to start? Since Morocci Morocco got done, you gotta think
of you got a staff, you know, you got a
staff weekends, you gotta staff morning, you got meteorologists, you know,
like somebody's got to be at the weather desk. So
how many like storm chasers do you think that they have? Eight? Eight?
Big eight? Yes, let's let's go eleven. You got two
(35:07):
anchors that are propped up. Nobody's chasing harmon hold of
those guys gotten a helicopter and chase a you know,
a stolen car like we do it in Los Angeles.
I'm gonna say four. Okay, Mike knows how the game
is played because big Manty Way, I like that nobody's
(35:35):
there to go home. They already left. What do you
mean the tracking storms? There are seven stories seven seven, fifteen, Yes,
like like that to me is crazy And I understand, like,
you know, like how weather, especially in the spring is
such a big deal there. But more than half of
(35:57):
their weather staff has a title of storm chaser. So like,
to me, that was crazy. Not crazy, don't Monty who
figured everybody on staff was? But yeah, to have I
was with you, Mike, like I thought, maybe you know,
like you know, you have three guys you know out there. No,
not the case at all. Seven storm chasers seven seven
(36:21):
people in the weather department have a storm chaser title.
There's first alert storm chaser um and uh there's uh,
you know, a photographer who's also a storm chaser, but
first alert storm chaser. Seven of them on the on staff.
That's crazy. But the weekends, manse they have six people
(36:45):
worked eight hour weeks. I think there's some labor discussions.
There's real weather over there. We don't have real weather here.
We don't need here they over there. Oh man, all right,
we'll count the number of people on the weather staffs
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Let's do it on down the National Football League. We've
got meetings, We've got big thought bubbles floating around and
(01:07):
as always, tinkering and points of emphasis and all the
fun and excitement that goes there in and one of
the big topics becomes the roughing, the passer penalty, as
well as the defenseless players, defenseless receivers, et cetera, talking
about disqualifications, reviews of disqualifications, all of those kind of things,
(01:29):
and a lot of it um just very very much
on the minds. The Phillips hit and I use hit
very nicely on Justin Herbert the other night where he
kind of laid him down kind of tenderly, kind of lovingly,
but because he got enough of his body on top
of him. And I know I made that sound far
seedier than it is, uh, but the fact that there
(01:50):
was contact and he went to the ground with him,
he gets the fifteen yard flag. And anybody that's ever
watched down of high school, collegiate or professional foot ball
looked around and said, wait what. Even Justin Herbert looked
looked around like, wait, I got that. I've been hit
far harder, far far more egregiously outside the pocket, uh
(02:12):
and blown up to no avail, And this one I get. Man.
I guess you balance the scales a little bit, but
when you have plays like that, and what a data
point that came out of a dan that I thought
was kind of interesting. Do you know roughing the passer
calls are down this year from watching the games, would
you have ever believed that? No, No, especially with some
(02:34):
of the calls that that we have seen. Um, the
Tom Brady obviously one against the Falcons and Grady Jarrett
earlier on in the season is the one that I
think stands out as the most. But yeah, the one
that we saw this past you know, Sunday night. As
you mentioned, there are something that he didn't necessarily even
agree with, the brock Purty one in uh in his
(02:56):
first snap against the Buccaneers this past weekend, although I
think that was roughing the pastor I actually agreed with
that call. It it's for some reason, Mike just gets
magnified in these situations, and I think it's because it's
a bad rule. Like the the protection of the the
(03:19):
bending over backwards of trying to protect the quarterback is
I think the problem that that we have that we
we understand why we know that quarterbacks are the lifeblood
of the league and that's you know, that is their
money makers. So they're trying to protect the investment. But
it goes against everything that we think football to be.
(03:42):
And so it is shocking that you have that number
because I think a lot of people would feel that
they were Actually it was an increase of six from
the instances that we've seen are the instances that have
been called. I think it also just tells you on
how subjective that call ends up being, right, like if
(04:05):
if calls are down, but then one on Jalen Phillips
gets called, like you know there, there's there's something, there's
something wrong there, and you know that it reminds me
a little of Ram Saints with Actually it reminds me
a lot of Ram Saints in the NFC Championship game
on the past interference because we blamed you know, the
(04:27):
lack of replay on it, when really it's the accountability
of the official to do their job correctly and and
and properly. And I think that's what we're seeing, you know,
in these situations is it may not be a league
wide issue, it may just be an individual official issue,
and but it gets magnified as as one because we
(04:49):
so try to protect the signal callers in the NFL. Yeah,
I mean it's kind of curious, right, I do uh
a lot of running around right, the kid playing soccer
or whatever, not to acquaint it to the national pot
all league and the billions and billions of dollars and
eyeballs that are and every down, and certainly when we
have the Dolphins Chargers, that it goes back to the
(05:10):
old standalone game, right, So what might have been an
egregious call at a one pm game? And I have
to use them here and I know I'm gonna get
the hate mail because the guys playing really well and
I want to celebrate everything about him. We had him
as the top five fantasy quarterback last week and he delivered.
But if it's a Jaguars game in the early window
on a Sunday, generally doesn't get the same love, right,
(05:32):
It kind of gets brushed aside. Might might be a
bad hit, might get a notice, right, And that's the
kind of thing we would bring up with one of
our insiders, just kind of, hey, you know, why doesn't
this guy get the love respect? And we've done that
with quarterbacks, right with Justin Fields in Chicago. That was
a big question last year. A number of times he
would be getting rag dolls, like why is he not
getting the same protection as other quarterbacks and then we
(05:54):
talked about earn calls whatever. But watching some of these games,
you know, like earlier my daughter played in what became
a runaway game. They ended up blowing the team out,
but then there were a couple of fouls in the
second half that the ref kind of just shrug ad like, not,
I'm not gonna give to you because you're already blowing
this team out, whereas in a close game the whistle
(06:14):
probably blows. And I mean not that I got the
full explanation from him, but that's the assumption based on
a similar play that would be called in the first
ten minutes of a nil nil game. But once it's row,
it's like running clock. Let's just get out of here
and get everybody gone. So the same thing here. Sometimes
we will wonder about that with games, but certainly in
(06:36):
the standalone games when you got a guy like Herbert,
and we've talked about the two of versus Herban thing.
I think it's been going the last few days almost
on a white hot level, kind of like you just
left the oven on and just keept putting more food
in there because you're you're you're feeding an army for
the holidays. Um, it's that kind of thing. I don't
need to stoke that fire anymore, but justin Herbert certainly
(06:57):
one of those guys that people are desirous of a
a massive run from him. So uh, certainly it gets
magnified there. Yeah, and is you know the talk today
is do you re review those sort of plays? Are
we reviewing it to make sure that the quarterback is
safe or are we reviewing it to protect the defensive
(07:21):
player in that scenario? How shocking would that be something
that goes for the defense? Yeah, because Troy then said
the quote was quote quarterback goes down by a head.
Obviously there's a flag on the field. Should that player
be automatically ejected? Should it be a reviewable play? That'll
be a topic of what's reviewed and what should be reviewable.
So yeah, is like where are you trying to find
(07:42):
some happy medium there? And again adding an extra safeguard
for officials. I mean does that come from? Do you
have to throw a challenge flag? Is it automatically reviewed
in New York? I mean there's a bunch of permutations
to it that could make it pretty unwieldy pretty fast.
If you were, like if if Mike McDaniel had the
opportunity to you know, review that play because he didn't
(08:05):
think it would be roughing the past there. I just
I don't know how you overturn it, right, like, like
how would you like be like, Okay, I guess it
wasn't that bad. He didn't hit him that bad. Is
that now the new level? Because as it's as it's written,
as it's been interpreted, the body landed on him, and yes,
the body still landed on Herbert, Yeah, just not with
(08:28):
violent force. Do we have to have some kind of
what do we use a seismograph that magister registers earthquakes?
How violently did he really take him to the ground?
And that's you know, this is all goes back to
the Aaron Rodgers Anthony Bar play when Bar drove him
into the turf and hurt Roger shoulders, And yeah, you
don't want those plays to happen, you know, you know
(08:51):
in the National Football League. But nobody needs any George Gumbies. Yeah,
well yeah, they're like there's there's like this rule did
not completely eliminate that play, like it still could happen
in the National Football League And you know, a fifteen
yard penalty or an ejection I think those plays are
still going to happen. I just I don't know, Like
(09:12):
why you know replay would do anything with this? I
I just I don't see. I don't see how an
official could could overturn that, because we would had we'd
have Terry mcaulay popping in. You know, by the letter
of the law, the defenser did land on top of Herbert,
So this is a fifteen yard penalty. And then you know,
so now we get into the objective, you know, and
(09:34):
in this all being subjective, and then we're back to
square one. So what's the point of having replay? It
would be just like just like it was with past interference,
Like there are penalties that should be reviewed, like I
I think face mask penalties and horse collar penalties are
so easy to be reviewed, Mike, And those are fifteen
(09:55):
yard penalties. Those are significant penalties. So to me, like
if I'm not a I'm not a pro replay guy,
I'm not an anti replay guy. But how many times
do you see a guy's head get, you know, turn
a hundred and eighty degrees practically, and no flag come
out and everybody sees it. You know, if you want
to replay, you looked at a face mask and and
(10:15):
you saw it. Easy. Easy to enforce this not so much.
I don't know, like how you would do this. Guy
grabs the nameplate, pulls a guy down. You know what
that is? Horse collar? Fifteen yards and that's significant enough
to stop a game, right like that? I mean it
is like, you know, fifteen yards automatic first down. That's
I'm I just this is not the place for it. Yeah,
(10:40):
we get into that hard part when we get into
pass interference calls. When you know, huge game changers, they
are forty yards, fifty yards. The guy throws a wounded
duck and because they're trying to judge the flight of
the ball and the receiver stops on a dime, a
guy makes some incidental contact that jostles them just enough
the flag comes out. We'll talk about the other permutation
(11:02):
of it here momentarily. If you can talk about how
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part of this. They're talking about disqualifications in the College
(11:23):
vein Stephen Jones, who's on the competition committee. Uh, first
time we've said somebody else's name that isn't Jeff Fisher.
Mind you, Well, I don't want to go to the
College rule me personally. Let's say you're playing in a
playoff game, controversial call and you lose your player for
the game, and then it turns out you shouldn't have.
And that's where I struggle again. We're judging intent right
(11:45):
on a lot of those plays, like if it's helmet
to helmet, uh, and the catapulting and all of those things.
I know there's permutations in the in the rules interpretation
as it is, but we know the giant pink envelopes
are gonna be there for the fines and if they
are repeat offender, then well we we know the schedule
of those starts to to blow up pretty fast. You know.
(12:09):
Vincent was quoted as saying, Hey, I don't think that's
in the best interest of the game called on the field,
played on the field. Replays there to assist the clear
and obvious, and that chasing perfection is a dangerous place
to go. I do think that I do think that
they're like the NFL, who's cleaner with their hits. They
(12:29):
may be more vicious because they're faster and speed. Absolutely, yeah,
like may, but like college, it can get reckless, you know,
just guys aren't a skilled you know enough that's it
can get dangerous in college. But I just think in
the NFL that, uh, they are um smart enough like
(12:50):
that there's you know, like how like you wouldn't again
going back to jail and Phillips. You're not objecting him
for that sort of play, you know, but like we
know something's egregious when we see it, you know. And
I just I don't think that that's I don't think
that's a problem that the NFL has right now. I
just I don't. I don't think that's I don't think
(13:11):
it's an issue. I think it gets checked pretty easily.
I mean, we can go back to some of the
big offenders of years past and you know all who
they were. I mean, when you'd have repeat questions of
hits from guys like Vantes perfect and stuff like that.
But right now it's been pretty clean. Yeah, are are
there moments and bang bang plays. Some of it is
(13:32):
the defenders got no chance, right if he's running and
all of a sudden the quarterback decides to take a
late slide or suddenly juke towards going out of bounds
when he's already leaping to try to get to the
spot to cut off another five yard gain or whatever.
I mean, we already see those. It's it's really hard
to legislate that and say, Okay, nope, that's that's egregious
(13:54):
and you should be thrown out. Yeah. I I also
think Mike can you mentioned like the perfect hit, Like,
I think NFL offenses have kind of moved away from
that in their offenses. They're not putting their guys at
risk because it's not worth it. Like you know, like
in everything trending towards towards the offenses, it always does.
(14:17):
This is actually one that's gone back that I think
teams are like, you know what, we can't afford to
have our our slot receiver get lit up, you know,
by the waiting linebacker, and they're just not doing those anymore.
I'm not saying that they're completely gone from the National
Football League, but like, how long ago was the perfect hit,
you know, and we're still referencing it. You know we're
(14:38):
in college football. Gosh, it seems like every single week.
You know, if you if you're watching from you know,
noon Eastern until midnight, you know you you've seen at
least one targeting injection in a college game that you watch,
you get that. Yeah, I think that the NFL has
cleaned up, you know a little bit in that aspect.
I wonder if there's any over unders on the total
(14:58):
of a given college football Saturday, Bobby Wagner, your former linebacker.
NFL does not need to eject players for hits like college.
That's why I stopped watching college. I think you're a liar, Bobby.
That's okay, uh An State may not be as good anymore,
so that's maybe you know he's not there. If you are,
(15:23):
you just injecting a parenthetical my college. I just you know,
I may have been a little cheap on the Eggies.
I'm not even sure how they fared this year, but
that you know, it could be a reason you tot
they were six and six overall. Maybe that's why you
not showing off and not falling behind meaty part of
the curve. Any first responder will tell you never try
(15:45):
to beat a train after breaking it could take a
mile for a train to completely stop, so when you
come to a rail crossing stop because trains can't coming
out next the Shiny New Start. He was on full
display on Fox until they took that game off the air.
A lot of people still scratching their head over that one.
But the hero worship has begun in the Bay Area,
(16:07):
isn't warranted? Or should there be someone else up on
the mantel? We'll talk about it next year on Fox.
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d if we go leg Yes, a all over by
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the Carolina Panthers, UH three point underdogs at all forty
three and a half. The total, The wishing, wanting, hoping
that Kenneth Walker is somehow able to get back on
the field and be the man you need him to
be in support of ge no ge no. But brock
Purty is on the injury report. Just when you thought
it was safe with your new savior in the Bay Area,
(17:13):
we don't need any of these steaking veteran quarterbacks. We
got a guy on the cheap and he looks like
he's fourteen years old, and he's there, and he had
gotten tickets for his parents not to come see him play,
but because maybe they could get a glimpse, and I'm
eating greet with Tom Brady instead. Now you got him
questionable because he's got an oblique slash rib injury. Funny
(17:35):
that I honestly in seeing how the Seahawks have been
run over by the Raiders and run over by the Panthers,
and you know what San Francisco likes, no debos hurt.
But uh, you would think that you could see a
lot of McCaffrey and Mason for the for the Niners.
I almost think that the three points is I thought
it would be like six six and a half, honestly,
(17:57):
um for how good San Francisco is in the love
for them. But I think it's three because of Purty,
and that just tells you, like the love. I could
be wrong, by the way. I am not a Vegas
expert by any means, but just my amateur opinion. It's
because of his status. And if you have to play
Josh Johnson then it is a completely different story. But
if pretty plays like San Francisco just matches up so
(18:20):
well the dominant of the Seahawks in their first meeting earlier,
you know, this year, it's but it's just crazy that
it's come to this point that I think the Vegas
line is even you know, being affected by one brock
Birdie hell of an effort and some big throws, some
trust from Kyle Shanahan and the offensive brain trust. There
(18:41):
in a complete dismantling of what had been, at least
to that point, a pretty formidable Tampa Bay defense. Right.
We came into that the week you and I do
in the the Eye Watch Flex podcast and just wondering
how many points you're gonna see whether it was going
to become a field goal kicking contest. Instead, Tampa Bay's
(19:01):
defense couldn't get off the field. Big play after big play,
you have, Debo gets hurt. Now he's done probably through
the end of the regular season. Hopefully he's back for
the playoffs. But you have Jerry Rice among other people, go,
why is he running inside? What are we doing? We
have running backs to do that. Give the ball to Mason,
Give it to McCaffrey again. There there chunk plays, but
(19:23):
pretty looks really comfortable. You got George Kittle who's back
uh in a viable option again and flying around a bit.
Brandon Ayuk, who has been hit or missed throughout the
year right in terms of his target count. Suddenly he's
running free and pretty laying out a nice ball. I'm
not gonna do the purty purty. Jason killed it by
(19:44):
doing all sorts of burmanisms last week after Purtty first
entered the game, So I can't do it again. Dan
can't do it, um. But there's a bigger point to this.
Quick reminder, ready first responder will tell you never try
to beat the train after breaking. You can take a
mile for a raining to completely stop. So when you
come to a rail crossing stop because trains can't One
(20:05):
of the things, as we were talking about in our
our pre show conversation and kind of going across the
veritable cornucopia of topics. Was everybody anointing Brock Purdy needs
to take a step back, And I agree wholeheartedly. Yeah,
I I think that it's it's great to get wrapped
up into all of this, but you really have to
(20:26):
take a step back and look where Brock Purty is
and what Brock Purdy is doing and what quarterbacks have
done in the past. This is to me, and I've
not been a huge, huge Kyle Shanahan fan just because
I think everybody else overvalues his greatness. But I'll give
him credit and I do think he knows more than
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Jerry Rice about what he wants to do in his scheme.
So there is a reason why Debo is running in
that spot. But to see what Kyle Shanahan has been
able to do with just average quarterbacks you know, around
the NFL, and to see what he's been able to
do with Jimmy Garoppolo, to see what he's been able
to do with Nick Bullens. Remember C. J. Bethard was
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you know, thought of as a at one point as
you know, what a what a revelation for the forty Niners,
that system and the players that they have around like
Michael Parsons and Von Miller talking about the Eagles. I
think that's what you gotta do with the forty Niners
because that's the spot that I think brock Purdy is in,
Like Kyle Shanahan's the one that should be getting all
the praise that they're on their third string quarterback and
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aren't missing a beat on offense. This isn't a this
isn't and and John Lynch as well for constructing constructing
a team that will allow you to get to your
third string quarterback. And that's what purty is because Trey
Lance was number one and Jimmy Garoppolo was number two,
and now brock Purdy is number three. And heck if
they have Josh Johnson Thursday night and go to Seattle
and win, and you know, win with a fourth string quarterback,
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like that's it's not on the quarterback like I love.
I love how people like to get wrap up in
these stories. And it's a neat story. And if brock
Purdy takes into the Promised Land, it's gonna be a
conversation we'll be having all off season about what they do.
But right now, to me, all of the roses and
the flowers, if we use that phrase again like I
did earlier. I think they go to Kyle Shanahan. I
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think that's the to have a system that you can
just put any pretty much any guy in and be successful.
Is the tip of the cap to the coach. Yeah, Dan,
I I've used because I am an old man, uh
and I watched a lot of Brady Bunch reruns as
a kid. The Johnny Bravos suit. You fit the suit man,
that's it, you fit the Here's what our offense is.
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Can you work in this offense? Can I mold you
to work in this offense? Can I get you to
sweat off three pounds before show date so you fit
the suit to take the stage. That's kind of where
we're at here. Not to diminish what brock Purty is doing,
because there's a lot of talent, right as you mentioned
with Parsons, von Miller, others raising their hand, going, man,
they got weapons for days in Philadelphia. Well that's what
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San Francisco didn't already had pretty good weapons. You and
I have talked a lot about Jeff Wilson and I
are liking of of course, his fumble the other night
not good, and then he gets banged up uh and
miss this time. But the the idea that you had
a good running game, multi pronged approach, and then you
bring in a guy like McCaffrey who might take away
some of the targets, but it becomes more quality chances
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for other players in that offense, right, you know, you
start pulling the strings and if it's working efficiently, as
Shanahan has been wont to do, and let's face it,
when they've struggled, where the struggle have been in the
injury reports going over the last couple of years where
it was a match unit and it was like scrolling.
Here's the injury report for the forty Niners. It's like
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the end of a cable television movie on TBS or
t n T when they're trying to start the other one.
It goes into a small screen and the lower right
and goes really fast. So it's done the same thing
with the forty Niners injury report for much of the year.
It's and listen this this plug in play is also
at the running back position, like like you mentioned, you know,
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Jeff Wilson and now McCaffrey being there. What about Elijah Mitchella,
Mitchell Jordan Mason, like in previous years. You know, I
think of guys Jerk McKinnon and his short tenure there
that I know is, you know feel like there's they
just would put guys, you know, like guys can fill
the spots and fill the role and have success and
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they go elsewhere and maybe they aren't having the success
that they had in the fourth you know with the
forty nine. That's the other thing with Brock Purty that
I think that Mike I think is a good litmus test.
If both Purty and Garoppolo are free agents after this season,
who are teams going after? And I think it's Garoppolo.
I think like like if you're the Houston Texans, let's
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you say, you know you're making a decision, you're moving on,
you're not going to use a quarterback with the number
one overall pick, which they will. But just for this argument,
you're bringing in Garoppolo, You're bringing in Purdy, You're bringing
in Garoppolo. That's what you're doing. Like nobody's you know,
it's working right now and it's the story and it's
the hot button topic. But when you still sit back
(25:12):
and take a look, like I think we just did
the slowdown just a little bit on on the Purdy Party.
I like that fast. I mean, how many times have
even heard Man, this kid's this kid's got it? The
kids got it. The Buccaneers just played a Monday night
game against their division rival and they normally struggle against Yeah,
(25:35):
I needed too late touchdowns, including on the last play
of the game. And then I have to go and
fly across the country on a short week and play
the most dangerous rushing offense in the National Football League.
How's that gonna work out for you? You know, I don't.
I don't care who you are. It's not gonna work
out too well, Brady. You know, they have their only
issues on the offense the side of the board. But
you know that defense doesn't give up thirty five points normally,
(25:59):
like it's just it, and they did on Sunday. So
I just you know, I like, I love the story,
but I just think that were such prisoners at the moment,
such prisoners at the moment, Mike, this kid's got it. No,
this kids got it? Well, then why didn't we talk
about him maybe taking the job when Trey Lance went
down hurt? You know, I was injured, Like, why wasn't that, yeah, boy,
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And they kept him and they and he stayed around
all offseason. Remember he was supposed to get trade and
they didn't. You can blame the shoulder. You can also
say up in that room, they knew what they had
in what Jimmy Garoppolo is. He may not be the
guy and the soup may not fit in other locations,
see what I did there back there, but he's sure
as ella is fit in Kyle Shanahan's offense went healthy
(26:43):
year after year. The Jimmy Garoppolo trade that didn't happen.
Sure brock Party would have been the backup, but guess what,
they made the decision to not trade him, and then
you know had their own you know whatever, if they
were going to trade, wait for a quarterback injury just
happened to you know, be their team that had it,
(27:04):
if Mike, if they were a believer that much in
the in the purty, then Garoppolo would have been dealt.
There's no doubt in my mind. And so that's why
I just all this. You know, like they loved him,
they probably did, but they you know, they didn't expect
that this would you know, that this amount of success
would happen this early. But again, it's it's the system,
(27:24):
and it's it's it's what Kyle Shanahan does and the
pieces around him and the different stuff. I'm sounding like
Michael Parsons. I totally, I am totally going to tweet
that out Dan Buyer, a system quarterback. Oh there you go?
How dare you besmirged the good name of this budding
superstar Dan Buyer. Be sure to catch live editions of
(27:46):
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten
pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and
the I Heart Radio app. Know that thirty five of
his wins have come with Garoppolo. Again, we've we've kind
of got back things out beyond just Jimmy g as
as a winner. We understand that he does exactly what
Shanahan wants in that offense and orchestrates it the backing
(28:12):
it out as I'd be want to do if we
really want to do the deep dive. A alysis is
what's the rest of the squad looking like when Jimmy
g isn't there right in terms of other key players
who may be missing on either side of the ball,
What was the point? What was the well just because
he's Shanahan's I think it's like eight and twenty eight
(28:32):
or something like that with quarterbacks not named Jimmy G.
Which I understand that from a records perspective, but it's
it's an easy one off, right, It's like taking any
piece of data out of a Sunday football game. You
might have had a guy bottled up all day long,
and scheme might have been right, like we talked about
in fantasy all the time. All right, I called this
(28:53):
guy cold play and for nineteen carries. I mean it's
the old Barry Sanders thing. They got him and corraled
him for nineteen carries for and then he races for
seventy five yards and a score on that next car.
Here's here's you know, like and this is I guess
you know to the point you know that's being asked
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with that of like where is you know, like isn't
isn't that like if if he's is that is that
stat trying to support how good Jimmy G is? Because
I think this is a brock Purty discussion that we're having,
right like this is this is and and and that's
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where that's where we like come along with this stuff
of like with Purty being you know, just the I
don't want say Johnny Coom lately, but you know he's
put into the spot and it's looked really good in
his first two games. But I just remember the Nick
Mullins craze there that weren't that good. Actor was even
the Jimmy G craze when he came over from the
(29:54):
forty niners and they stunk, you know, And a lot
of those losses that that Kyle Shanahan endure did come
after the Jimmy G a c l injury, but there
were other injuries that happened, and then you look at
what happened what you know two years ago, and you
know Nick Bosa gets hurt and you know they said
injury after injury, like there's yeah, like those things pile up.
(30:16):
You look at the pieces. But now if George Kittle
is back healthy and Debo unfortunately isn't, you know, they've
got their their team in the pieces that are there
and that's what makes them go. And I just if
you look at the losses that they have, I don't
think they had the same team around who was ever
the quarterback at the time and that's the larger point, right,
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It's all we can take stats and a vacuum and
and it's good for the sake of arguments and for
sports talk radio and for me when I just want
a champion. Jimmy g just to shut Jason up at times.
I mean, it's it's fun around. He's also a White
Sox fan, and since there are foot so few of us,
we gotta stick together. So I got that going for
(30:56):
me too. I got you know, you know Obama as well.
So he always stuck, you know, with the White Sox cap.
And he was throwing up first pitches and then one
asked who his favorite was. Um took a minute. Anyway,
any first responder will tell you never trying to be
the train after breaking. You can take a mile for
a train to completely stop, so when you come to
(31:18):
a rail crossing stop, because trains can't. I mean, I
guess at that point when when he would have been
asked about it, he wasn't watching sports content where Frank
Thomas was trying to shill for products. And she'll like
it too. He's Dan Byron for Jason Smith on Mike
Garmen The Jason Smith Show with Me Mike Garmen here
(31:38):
on Fox Sports Radio. Now we talked a little bit
on both sides of the Seahawks and the forty Niners. Well,
that begins Week fifteen in the National Football League, and
like we do on the I Watch Reflex podcast, time
to break down some good, bad and ugly to come
in the week ahead in the National Football League. Be
sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith Show
with Mike harmon week He said, ten pm Eastern, seven
(32:01):
pm Pacific. Welcome back in Fox Sports Radio. Jason, spit
you out with me, Bike Carmen, No, Jason tonight. My god,
Dan fire in his stead. He sounds sexy. There you go.
I mean, that's a ringing endorsement for you. There, Dan,
I'll take it when I can get it very often.
You want us to clip that off for you, Hey,
(32:25):
we'll send it up as a ring tone for you. Nice.
Well you know now that becomes a drop you just laughs,
like yes, all right. So earlier in the show, we'll
get to fantasy football as we continue, because this is
this is a more pressing thing. And Moncy, if you're there,
crack that microphone. This is something that we talked about
(32:49):
earlier as related to the battle between Oklahoma City and
Miami and your idea that you know, we should be
on something akin to a store watch here and we
went looking for for information. There should be a Doppler
trophy or something like with these two teams play. Can
we name it after an NBA great? Sorry, it's named
(33:12):
after the Doppler radar Mike, come on? And I was gonna, well,
I mean, can we name it after Kareem ab Dul
Jabbar because he's gonna be mad and he got screwed
on the n v B award. Uh So, So, Monty,
did you have any luck in finding any unique weather
names in Miami or Oklahoma City? Did have any luck?
I'm here? What? Yeah? Did you have any luck in
(33:34):
finding any unique weather you guys? So disappointing? Yes, so disappointing. No,
no one did you find? The only one I found
kind of was Storm Jones. Okay, that's the honestly, that's
the only one. And this was for Oklahoma. Okay, this
(33:56):
this actually this blew my mind because I looked as well,
and I didn't find mind any but the the UH,
I believe the ABC affiliates in UH in Oklahoma City
is kao ceo. That's the the uh the Oklahoma City affiliate.
Now I want to go around to every big A
as well. I want to get his thoughts. If I
(34:17):
were to tell you that this news team had thirteen members,
this weather team at thirteen members members? Yes, how many
storm chasers do you think they have that make up
the third actual storm chase? Yes? Yes, this is this
is where this is so out of the turn. Yeah,
how many do you think are storm chasers? You want
(34:42):
to start? Since Morocci Morocco got done, you gotta think
of you got a staff, you know, you got a
staff weekends, you gotta staff morning, you got meteorologists, you know,
like somebody's got to be at the weather desk. So
how many like storm chasers do you think that they have? Eight? Eight?
Big eight? Yes, let's let's go eleven. You got two
(35:07):
anchors that are propped up. Nobody's chasing harmon hold of
those guys gotten a helicopter and chase a you know,
a stolen car like we do it in Los Angeles.
I'm gonna say four. Okay, Mike knows how the game
is played because big Manty Way, I like that nobody's
(35:35):
there to go home. They already left. What do you
mean the tracking storms? There are seven stories seven seven, fifteen, Yes,
like like that to me is crazy And I understand, like,
you know, like how weather, especially in the spring is
such a big deal there. But more than half of
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their weather staff has a title of storm chaser. So like,
to me, that was crazy. Not crazy, don't Monty who
figured everybody on staff was? But yeah, to have I
was with you, Mike, like I thought, maybe you know,
like you know, you have three guys you know out there. No,
not the case at all. Seven storm chasers seven seven
(36:21):
people in the weather department have a storm chaser title.
There's first alert storm chaser um and uh there's uh,
you know, a photographer who's also a storm chaser, but
first alert storm chaser. Seven of them on the on staff.
That's crazy. But the weekends, manse they have six people
(36:45):
worked eight hour weeks. I think there's some labor discussions.
There's real weather over there. We don't have real weather here.
We don't need here they over there. Oh man, all right,
we'll count the number of people on the weather staffs
here in Los Angeles coming up as we can. Danie
hear Fox Sports Radio. Thanks Momsey, Thanks Alex uh Dan
Buyer and I here Mike Carmen, Jason Smith off tonight
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