December 28, 2022 • 39 mins
Mike Harmon and Chris Plank update you on all the Bowl Games going on. Luka Doncic drops 60 point triple-double on Jason Smith’s Knicks. And Denver Broncos Owner & CEO Greg Penner apologizes to the fan base for a horrible season.
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studios Jason Smith Show with Me Mike Harmon, No Jason
Smith to night. Chris Plank in his stead you hear
him on Sunday nights alongside Arnie Spaniard has been gracious, uh,
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and you've gotten a lot of great sports talk with
him filling in for me. So I I appreciated Chris
a little bit of time off with the kids so
they can tell me what I'm doing wrong, uh this
past year, So I appreciate it. We had the airring
of grievances and we're back in in the Fox Sports
Radio studios, and I gotta say I've never heard an
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update like the one Mons just gave us where the
excitement was palpable. Either that or she was. She's running
on a treadmill while giving the update. This game is
crazy between the Knicks and the Mavericks. I don't blame her.
One sixteen to fifteen remaining in this bat bleeph is
what it is right now, which is I mean Lucas
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on fire. Uh the Knicks are imploading. Kind of one
of those nights where maybe it'd be better to see
a fool on Jason Smith meltdown than uh here in
me tonight. But I mean, this is just incredible what
we're watching. We're we're good, Chris, You're you're good on that.
We're good. Fifties and ten the stat line. So if
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in Daily Fantasy, or you've got Luca, or you've got
any investment in trading cards, maybe this is good because
you know, it's also two days after Christmas, which means
this game counts. That is true. Now the NBA matters.
It matters now, right, It's it's kind of a big deal.
But welcome to the NBA too. By the way, we're
in now into three. Operation shutdown happens almost nightly. If
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you fall behind by ten points in the fourth quarter,
usually everyone taps out. So kudos to the Mavericks tonight
for not doing that. What we saw the Clippers do
that against the Pistons. That was that last night was
last night, Yeah that was that was the last everything's
running together, But I mean, this is this is good
stuff tonight. Look at the NBA taking some center stage,
taking our focus off this Guaranteed Rate Bowl and the
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excitement that's currently taking place right now. So over time
firing up seven three game there as we've come to
the end of the first Oklahoma State with the lead
Wisconsin with the ball just barely into Oklahoma State territory.
We'll keep an eye on that because you are going
to the Cheese It Bowl. I sent your jealousy in
your voice, the excitement I love. Look, I love of events.
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I love going to live events. If I had one
gripe with the job that I do, is that I
don't get to go to games during the week without
having to, you know, wrangle days off, make a bunch
of schedule changes, etcetera. And the kids, as you know,
travel sports and theater and all the different activities that
they have that your days off or not necessarily yours
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to plan anymore, Right, you have to go according to
their schedule. If they're doing travel ball, you gotta wrangle
a day here and there, so you can't just say, hey,
you know what, it's a Wednesday. This this team I
want to see is in town. Equipment, baby, take your equipment.
Say I'm coming, give me a spot on press work. Bro,
I'm Mike freaking Harmon. I'm going to games. Come on,
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but got this. But but I have to give up
the shift. Why you you you're you're going to do
the show? Put the headset on? Is going on? Yeah
that doesn't work. I like, I like that in theory.
I could use that comrax app well as they should. Uh,
if you're trying to do that. But I brought up
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because you're going bowling and and I've gone to bowls
like one of my my first experience with Walt disney
World and really plane travel. I hadn't done much of
it as a kid in Chicago, and we just didn't
not to bring out the little violins or whatever, but
we just we didn't travel. We were poor, So yeah,
I I can, I can. We drove to relatives in
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Indiana and Wisconsin and those were our our vacations, and
we liked it. We loved it. But then you know
we had when Northwestern played in the Citrus Bowl against
Peyton Manning and purely peerless price uh, and they beat
us all over the field, just like Keyshan Johnson had
the year before in the Rose Bowl. We went to
Disney World and we did all that. But it was
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like that, that's my passion. Like college football for the
longest time was like I went every road game. I
think I missed two my entire college life. That's what
we did. All right, whose car are we using this week?
And we got in the car, we figured it out,
and it took shifts and slept where you could, got
work done where you could, and you went and because
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of the nature of national radio, you know, not paying
attention to the the granular level of college football is
the once did because you know, Saturday is the kids
have their activities or whatever, so you've always got it
on your phone and that's one of the great crutches
that we have as as folks go. But I mentioned
the cheese at Bowl one because you get to go
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and cover it and it's it's exciting and it gets
your your blood pumping. But also that you know, I
saw this from one of the guys that covers Florida
State that he got the information from a cheese at
Bowl representative that there's no such thing as cheese. It's right, right,
that it's cheese it crackers. That's right. If you have
more than one, that's right. But well, we screw up
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pluralization of so many other things. Is that what you're
trying to tell me right now that I can't say
RBIs instead of runs bad it in I was. I'm
not gonna lie to you. I was a little bit
shook when I saw that. I'm not a massive cheese
it's guy. I'm a little bit more of a goldfish guy. Uh.
Really all those are bad for you. But uh, are
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we at that level in life to where someone's gonna
complain and say, hey, buddy, they're not cheese, it's they're
cheese at crackers. And I am offended that you said
it wrong because you're changing the brand. Right, it's cheese
it not cheese. It's so they just want you to
keep on brand. Their brand is putting on a Bowl
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game and hopefully having a great bowl gift for me
and tons of cheese. It's have you ever got any
anything really good? Have you ever called it a cheese
it cracker in your life? All right, then there you
go bleep their brand it's cheese. It's um no to
protect the brand, though I understand his Uh. Can I
tell you something? You know who needs brand protection right now?
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Southwest Air allnes cheese it's does not have a brand
protection issue going out of saying whoa, whoa. Everyone stop
adding the s on the end of it. It's cheese
it crackers, not cheese at Southwest needs that guy protecting
now thinking of looking in which is always that's not good.
Like I don't usually get bowl gifts, So here's what happened.
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You take it from somebody else? No, no, no, since
we travel with the with the radio network, right we uh,
our gifts usually end up where someone else gets him.
And I don't even know if we're considered like media,
but I will say the coolest thing that I ever
got was like a pool over. I got a pull
over at the Orange Bowl somehow, and this was you know,
it's funny because Prefet and I were actually talking about
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this game before the show started whenever Cleman went to
the four team playoff against Clemson, and we got this
pool over and it's awesome. The problem is I've gotten
fat since I first got it, so I can't wear it.
But it's still awesome. Is that a motivator in the
for the new year? Because I based we got thirty
year class reunion might be the motivator for the new year,
but I would Yeah, I got shamed by the doctor,
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So that's that's my motivation. Here's a print out of
what your readings are right now. You need less stress
less sports. You're a fantasy sports expert. There's no way
you're gonna get less stress in your life. Mike, Well,
you know, I'll take the derision. It's what we we
love here and that was the thing I didn't get
a lot of while I was on vacation except from
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my family. Uh. But we come back here and however
you're listening, wherever you're listening, we appreciate you. Positivity, derisiveness. Well,
we take it all at Swollen Dome where you find
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him how much you love him. And yes, Arnie span
yours out there in the nether regions where you can
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Genius One, you all know the tag. You don't have
to promote, No I do, because he'll be here tomorrow.
I got attached to him, Jason. We do call me Jason.
So I'm getting mad at you breaking up Artie all
the time. I call you Jason, which is worse, and
then I separate myself. All right, you get to experience
that misery for two more days this week, so good
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luck with that. I want to uh, no question about
it's it's one of us. I'll have to do the
Miami therapy, no doubt with him as well. But I
mean watching this. Uh now, now we've got the Mavericks
with a four point lead one nineteen because we gotta
go back to you know what leads here as Tom
Thibodeau has lost whatever Harry had left, uh thirty four
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seconds left. Luca at the foul line just had this
sent to me. Uh. Third player in NBA history is
Luca Donge. It's fifty points, twenty rebounds, and tennissists in
the game. The only other two guys to do it
Will did it twice, Elgin Baylor did it once and
now Lucas at sixty what sixty? And Frostburg says it's
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the Knicks, so it really only counts is no, don't don't.
Don't let Frostburg do that. The Knicks are not as
bad as they typically are. Disrespect Luca. Well, it's really
just a function of if Smith were here, he would
be in his ear constantly, and I know he's listening
out there because really he would love to be out
on air for this one. Uh sixty one thirty one
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from the field. Only six three point tries. Ponder that
for a second, only six three point tries two of
six and sixteen of twenty two from the fall line.
Sixty point night. Unbelievable, unbelievable. You know, we've been fighting
and scratching and claude for a little bit more respect
for Shay Gil just Alexander around these here parts, and
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he's been pretty solid. But then when you start having
those conversations about, you know, top ten players in the league,
maybe the elite of the elite, even an m v
P conversation that Kevin Duran has re entered a night
like this, a comeback like this and pulling away eight
like the Mavericks are, and and it's about to go final.
This is one of the more epic regular season performances
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we've seen. Given where Dallas was in the final thirty
three seconds of that game, this is unfreaking believable right now,
Luca going off, I gosh, Knicks fans are gonna lose
their ever love in mind. Should get it? They should,
Holy smokes man. This is a this is a special
player doing special things well, and that's always the beauty
of it. Right. I'm not a big, you know, top
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five now kind of kind of guy with individual players,
especially on December, but you've got to commemorate greatness as
it happens. And you try to tell me you don't
want to do the mount rushmore of great individual performances
right here at seven Fox, we can we can do
a top ten and list all the guys whose games
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we didn't see. Here's here's ten games at Will Chamberlain head.
End of story. Here's a bunch that Kareem had back
when he was Louel Cinder. Next, I can do a
bunch of Jordans games. I guess if we want to
go down that road. But yeah, just an amazing performance
Grimes had thirty three for the Knicks. Doesn't matter. Randall
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Luke also a huge follow up because we were talking
about his fashion choices. That cowboy had he was rocking
on Christmas Day was prettretty. So yeah, the car to
what was it an old Camaro that he rolled up in.
I mean he he knew that, he knew the cameras was.
We're on game on, baby, I it's it's unbelievable. I
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know we're gonna talk about this and ma is gonna
be all over it in her updates. Sixty points, twenty
one rebounds, ten assist. I mean, with this team down,
what was it like five points in the final thirty
three seconds. More than that, it's Reggie Miller esque. Baby,
let's go. There is this up there with the greatest
performance against the Nike shirt calls? Is this the top
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five performance against New York of all time. Let's your
text include Michael Jordan and the Double Nickel. Right, you
can do this all day long. Are you a cowboy
hat guy? Because I actually revealed to these guys that
I have a cowboy hating have spink with cowboy with
a cow hide kind of band on it. My daughter
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rides horses, she's a barrel racer, so I I have one.
Every single time that I've worn it, she's like, Dad,
you're embarrassing me. Take it off. So and I got
it out of Love's travel stops too, So it's not
like basically done. Yeah, it's not like it's the fanciest
cowboy had, but it works for me. Baby. Uh yeah,
I I do. I would wrap it it, just it doesn't.
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It's like flat bills. Flat bills don't look it on me.
Cowboy hats are okay, but I feel like I'm trying
to be something I'm not. And of course I live
in I live in Flyover Country. So if you wear it,
you gotta represent you gotta know what you're doing. Well,
that's it. Gotta make sure that style style works for
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Mike Carmen. No Jason Smith this week, and he wouldn't
want to be on right now anyway. After the Nicks
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blow a big lead and watch Luca take another step
into saying I'm the man swagger, no question about it,
ever been done in the history of the NBA. It's
crazy stuff. Luca saying he needs a recovery beer in
the post game. Did you hear that? Classics and I
got tired. I don't know if he knew where he
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was score points wise, because the sideline reporter literally told Luca, uh,
triple doubles and he kind of looked at him, and
he and he and he was shocked. Listen to this.
This was fantastic moments ago. Courtesy of Valley Point Tony rebound,
triple devil, sixty points Tony boards never never happened. Baby,
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How does it fail? Right now? He said he's tired.
My stupid cat just jumped on my computer. But yeah,
I said he's tired, and then he needs a recovery
beer Luca. Whenever he looked at him, Mikey didn't even
realize that he had sixty points in the game. That's
I don't know if that's BS right. I don't know
how often he's sneaking up with his scoreboard. I don't
know how easily accessible it is for people at the
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American Airline Center in Dallas. But holy smokes man, this
is one of those nights that if you just started
watching the n b A, I'm just here to tell
you this ain't typical of what this regular season has
been like so far. That was awesome. Well, you know what,
it's the new year, right. We we talked about Christmas
Day and we saw the ratings of how the NFL
squashed them even with three three games that weren't let's
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just say the the most pleasing to the eyeballs. And
I'm sure plenty of folks went away from the game
we're about to talk about UH in the second half
to do something else, or they just turned on the
Nickelodeon version UH and watched people in the crowd gets
slimed as the Broncos got stomped by the Rams. But yeah,
this is the time where you start paying attention. You're
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looking at trends were past that December date, were some
freeing up of the trade possibilities are there for disgruntled
players or teams where things are obviously not working as
they they thought they would in terms of viability or chemistry, cohesion,
et cetera. So yeah, where what a way to kick
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it off in a holiday season? A lot of eyeballs
obviously folks home homebound and and home stuck based on
weather travel, maybe in airport's watching that game live and
in living color as well, but certainly a show for
the ages from Luca Dodge. It's today we look at
the Denver Broncos to to make that hard transition, and well,
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because I referenced it with the Rams running all over them,
cam akers saying I I'm a viable running back, Look
at me Baker Mayfield, etcetera. But more of the dumpster
fire that has been the Denver Broncos. Hackett gets fired
Jerry Rossberg, who was brought in in week three to
be the efficiency expert. Right, he was the guy long
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time assistant h in the National Football League. It's like, Oh,
he's the guy that's gonna help with down distance, clock
management and everything else. After they woefully mismanaged things in
that season opener against they took away decision making from him.
They took away game management from the head coach period.
That's what they did. Well, he brought you know, there's
so much he's gotta pay attention to do. So they said, hey,
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here's a guy that's gonna get in your ear like
your guardian angel, to make sure you don't look like
a fool. Uh. And even then it didn't matter four
an eleven. I always wonder what the offense might have
looked like if Tim Patrick was healthy. No, I'm just kidding. Uh.
There's so many other issues going on there as well
as the well the decline of Western civilization and Russell
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Wilson that we had seen begin in Seattle. But everybody
got blinded by the name history et cetera. To uh,
to notice, right, especially once you have a new ownership
group that then gives him a huge shiny contract. But
we had ownership take to the podium today to talk
about the changes to come. I want to personally apologize
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to our fans in all a Broncos country. We know
that we need to be better and we will. Yeah
that's coming from Penner. Uh and the owners, No kidding,
You've got a great fan base, You've got an awesome franchise. Uh.
And they're on I don't know about their eight different
coach since Mike Shanahan. About your fifth different quarterbacks since
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Peyton Manning. Yeah, no kidding, boy, Jason Lockinford was right
back in the first hour. You kid me. Oh, we're
so sorry. Well why did you give him the stupid contract?
Come on, well you get into the shiny object, right you.
Everybody knows you need a quarterback. This is the guy
that you thought would come in and and you wanted
to have the fans excited. You're the new owner. You
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want to make a splash, and this is the guy
you do it. Uh, Now, we could we do it
in baseball all the time. Everybody's been doing it. For
weeks and oh, that guy's gonna be thirty seven, thirty
eight years old. Well, in football, we're now comparing everything
to Tom Brady, how he played though he's forty five.
This guy will be just fine at the end of
his thirties, even though you've already seen a little bit
of decline in Seattle. Forget about the whole rift with
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with his teammates, the stuff we saw on Sunday when
you've got to back up trying to step in for him.
Come on, now, Brett Rippon, get the hell out of there. Uh,
that's not your fight to have with the offensive line,
but showing that on the sidelines that you know, pushing
him away, and and then after the game, we got
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punches being thrown between the squads and everything else, frustration
boiling over. But you bring in Hackett thinking you're going
to have this breakthrough because you've got Sutton and you've
got Jerry Judy, and you've got in theory, the two
headed backfield that you liked with Javonte Williams in his
second year. And then you bring back Melvin Gordon. Problem
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is Melvin Gordon forgot So we're talking about Wisconsin players
a lot uh, forgot how to hold onto the football.
So even your opportunities where you did have chances to
make hey, you've fumbled them away. Right. The decision making
was terrible in a number of circumstances. The other was
bringing him back and then giving him big time carries
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in short yardage goal line situations. But we've never seen
that offense where Hackett was supposed to be the guy
to figure it out, where they made no strides. And
they've been together what since March. You've gone through a
whole season, so by now you should have at least
seen some semblance of consistency and not just what a
quarter and a half or whatever it was against Kansas
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City before Wilson got hurt. That was the most exciting
fifteen minutes of football they've seen all year. It's funny
to me because I I kind of saw signs of
issues from day one. Right whenever you get Russell Wilson
talking about this is gonna be a collaborative effort with
your offense. No, you can't have a collaborative effort between
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a coach and a quarterback. Sure you're gonna you're gonna
hear your offense towards their strengths. But it happened when
you did that just the last couple of years in Seattle,
right exactly. So I don't I don't understand why rest
It felt like he needed to have such a role
in in in what this offense was gonna be, Like,
will be the player, let your coaches figure out what
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can work around you. Listen, Nathaniel Hackett was in over
his head. Now, Mike, what do you do going forward?
If you're Denver, you're kind of stuck. You don't have
the draft capital, your stock. But that's just it. You're
stuck with this giant contract. You've got no draft capital.
We talked with Jason luck And for the last hour,
and you know, the Sean Payton, he's being attached to everybody.
Now that the Chargers are qualified for the playoffs, everybody's saying, well,
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that's all all bets are off there because look at
what Staley has done this year. Like if you like
Sean Payton more, you like Sean Payton Moore, right, whatever
the outcome is. But so I don't categorically rule that out.
But yeah, he could be on TV for another year,
who knows. But at this point, why would he go
to Denver mid thirties quarterback showing signs of of falling
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off and certainly has right decision making, is willingness to
run all of those friction with teammates, which goes back
to Seattle. You see anybody from Seattle sticking up for
him over the past year, Chris, Now have you seen
any of his Denver teammates outside of bred Rippon sticking
up for Is it a good job? It's a terrible
job right now. It's a great franchise long term, but
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with with what you've got, saddled with two hundred plus
million for Russell Wilson, and I mean, who's taken that
poison pill? Right? Are are they gonna say in two years,
we're just gonna have all the the dead dead cap Right.
It's just the guy that wants to be one of
thirty two. Right, Because you've got a good defense, right,
we know that that works at least for most of
the year, and then whatever Sunday was, right, that's the
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aberration to it in the final nail in the coffin
of the Hacket era. But you know, you at least
have a defense that week to week was competitive and
kepting games. But when we we look at it going forward. Yeah,
it's just the one someone who wants to add NFL
coach for whatever that length of time would be to
their resume. Do you know, and I know we gotta
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get our update, but do you know what his dead
cap hit is for the next couple of years? For
those of you that like you, Well, why don't you
just taught him? If you're so tired of him, why
don't you just taught him his dead cap hits it?
Oh no, Mike, you're not close. It's a hundred and
seven million dollars, which over over just for next year,
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it's eighty five million dollars in eighty five. Uh, it's
eighty five million dollars in twenty four, it's forty nine
point six million dollars in five. You can't just get
out of this by saying audios. Now, there might be
some injury situations in there. I don't know what that
language looks like. Listen, I didn't know, but Derek Carr
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had in his contract that we found out. But this
is a a shockingly bad contract for the Broncos. Right,
this isn't even a team for There's no out on
that front. So I mean you're looking at hundreds of
millions of dollars that it's going to cosset to if
you even think you can't. I mean, let's let's say
you can't and you're gonna Are you gonna trade them?
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So you're right. I don't know why Sean Payton would
want to go there. I don't know if anyone's is
still excited about working with Russell Wilson. But it's gonna
be fascinating to see what this coaching search looks like. Yeah,
I got my forty nine from the average per year
value of the contract going from memory. Uh, but yeah,
the dead cat numbers daunting. It's like you're sitting there
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going with the league account and it's like, can you
tell us what the cat might look like? Are we
gonna get a huge jolt from putting things on YouTube?
Is that going to help us with the Sunday ticket?
Is that gonna give us any any relief in terms
of our share of revenue? Yeah, you have no draft picks.
You're gonna have to go cheap on a quarterback once
you decide to move on. Whoever comes in takes this job.
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I mean, you're more or less said by the new
coach reporting to ownership that George Payton is just an
empty suit, right, I mean that's pretty much what you
said at here. You're not reporting to him, are you?
Are you gonna gut your entire operation, all you're scouting,
all your evaluators. Does does that go to the wayside
as well? Like they're just did a complete overhaul. Like
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I had no no confidence in them coming into the year.
I thought they were gonna be the worst team in
the in the West. Happily I was right. A lot
of people, though disagreed with us. I was right there
with a lot of people. Had that Daniel Hackett multiple
Coach of the Year winner. You still have people to
this day defending Russell Wilson. Apparently they don't watch football.
The apologists are always going to be out there, but
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I just listen. I'm a Raiders fan, so I I
don't care if Dinverse stinks, but I do I do
have great respect for their fan base and base, and
I appreciate it the place out Yeah, yeah, it's it's
a it's a great fan base, but they've been sold
a bill of goods the last few years. And and
guys like I've always called him George Patton. It's George Payton, right, yeah, okay,
So and guys like what you want to just have
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the general on the mind. I get it. Maybe that's
part of it. I don't know one whatever it takes,
but in in Peyton and what he's done in running
that organization always seems to get to shine from the media.
Him and Chris Pollard can do no wrong in the
eyes of the NFL media. But yet they've struggled to
figure out the one most important thing, and that's a
quarterback position. We were all celebrating Russ. It's not gonna work, man,
(28:19):
He's got to get serious about his conditioning. He's got
to get back to understanding his limitations. You can't go
out there and run away from dudes anymore that that
that fear was not there. So I'm I think this
is gonna be the quarterback changes this offseason. I think
are gonna again be in the double digits. I don't
you can't do anything with Russ, but I'll be fascinated
(28:39):
to see if they go to get an offensive guy
to try to fix them, if they want to keep
their defense in in toe. So they're like, all right,
we're gonna bring in dan Quinn, go find me the
best offensive coordinator. I think this higher and what happens
in that quarterback carousel, and if it's somehow involves Denver
is going to be fascinating. Well, the curiosity of how
do you play Kate uh and make him feel comfortable
(29:02):
with whatever Mr Unlimited has left? But you know from Nickelodeon,
this probably is the play that summarizes the Broncos season
as best we possibly can. Searching in long and the
Broncos and goes to the big Horsey players. They have
the ball and they're gonna see if they can find
(29:22):
a way to move it. Ah nice, and so what's
who there's Rust Wilson. It's called goption. That's why that's
not what he wanted to cook. No, I think he
(29:43):
burn whatever he was cooking. Bobby Wagner with the interception.
Let's so cal kidd back home, Patrick hal exiding, is
that Bobby Wagon coming to town and doing that with
his old teammate Bill fager backy Uh the voice of
Dabber and of course Patrick Star is part of the Nickelodeon.
(30:05):
I thought that was someone doing a bad impersonation, Now
it it was. It was the guy. Huh, there's some
behind the scenes video of having him do it. Remember
he's been doing this forever. That's true. I mean, SpongeBob's
going on like our voice has changed. Go back and
listen to some of your air checks from five years ago.
I did they sound exactly the same, soot lies. So
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here's the thing that's interesting to me. I came away
shocked on Sunday by how many people had no idea
who Patrick Starr was. That was. That was the thing
that because that that video made its rounds, you know,
beyond just the Nickelodeon broadcast and and what they did.
But I was blown away, blown away by how many
people had no idea that was. You want to talk
(30:46):
about moments that are humbling, right, there's being benched, there's
being cut, there's being fired, having your interception called by
Patrick Star Mike, that's got to be up there with
one of the most humbling things that can happen to
any athlete in the history of That also gotta be honored.
That's true, right, I mean, because look, everybody, you play
in the NFL long enough, you've probably been fee I mean,
(31:08):
you haven't at least the Thursday Night football game, So
one of the biggest names in broadcasting has said your
name at least once. In this case, you've got Patrick
Starr from the Little Bikini Bottom who was on that game?
It was it was it was Fox Right that had
the broadcast. So you either get like the Kevin Burke
Hearts are whomever went okay okay. Then then you get
(31:34):
the actual broadcast, which is him and I think Adam
Amen is on with him, So you get those two guys,
or or you get Nate Burlison, I an Eagles kid,
and Patrick Starr. I think you're right. I think you
get an elite talent calling your your interception. That's that's
a plus for one rus. Yeah, And of course I
I get that wrong because it was How can I
(31:55):
forget Nansen and Romo? How can I forget them laughing
at and wishing that they had a running clock. They
made every joke possible about how quickly can we get
this game over by halftime? They were done. Don't blame him, well,
if you know, we've had our share of those. Luca
bothered oftentimes. Is it his reputation as a whiner, So
(32:16):
I mean he certainly can get bothered at time who
in the NBA isn't hey man, you're begging for calls.
You always want the next one. The problem is they
catch everything you do. Uh, film wiscouts are back into
the red zone and keep an eye on that. Back
into the NFL. Chris blank In for Jason Smith on
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(32:38):
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go to the Cheese It Bowl. We'll get his excitement
for that trip to come coming up in about ten
minutes from now. But the NFL, as much as we
talk about the Denver Broncos, I can't give a free
(33:54):
pass to the Indianapolis Colts who gave us another. I'd
rather watch paint dry performance on Monday Night football. Congratulations
to the Los Angeles Chargers. Our Guy Frostberg, uh Isaac
Low and Cross, Steve di Seger, are Guy, Matt Money
Smith who does the radio broadcast with Justin Man. They're
they're all part of a celebration of heading to the postseason,
(34:15):
which is fantastic. Doesn't Frostberg get his own segment tonight?
I mean, my god, man, the Chargers are back in
the playoffs, first time under Justin Herbert. I think they
can go and win some games, man. I think they're
pretty damn good. I can go stretch a little bit.
I mean they need the run game, and obviously the
sightings of Boss are like that of a Yetti thus far.
(34:37):
So if he can get back on the field and
give them some meaningful snaps. Now we're talking because we're
looking at a situation where they can still get to
the five. I know that's speaking of stretches. They can
still get to the five. I think you want here's
my thought. I think you want to avoid Cincinnati. I
don't know, you want to avoid anybody. You go in
and kick their ass. I like that mindset, but I probably, boy,
(35:01):
that's tough. They've played well against the Chiefs, so I
don't think i'd have any problems with I don't know.
FROs very correct me if I'm wrong. They've played well
against the Chiefs, so I wouldn't have any problems going
up against Kansas City. In Kansas City, right, They've They've
been a good foe for Cincinnati. I'm telling you, Harmon,
I think they can do some things, but there is
likely to win a game thirty one to seven. Is
(35:23):
they already get beat thirty one to seven, which is
a hard thing. That's why to try to quantify with
the team right now, defense playing better. I want to
see the more from the run game that's been uh problematic,
But you're getting the catches from Austin necklace, so we
can fight about you know, is that just as good
as having the run game right when you've got a
guy that's got a hundred catches. You've seen how we're
(35:43):
Tampa at times, either of their backs white or four
net while they're not getting much on the ground, they're
catching seven balls and moving the chains that way. So
we're we're looking at that with the Chargers. But you know,
let's let's stay with the dumpster fire that is the
Jim Ursay, in an interview with ESPN, said, quote, I
(36:04):
reluctantly gave Frank an extension sooner than I wanted to. Okay,
gave it to Frank Wright before one season, and then
fired him after the three five and one start, right
eleven and five, nine and eight, three five and one. Now,
I defended the hiring of Jeff Saturday. It's your team,
(36:24):
do whatever the hell you want, uh, and for the curiosity,
because if it worked, then you open a whole other
potential hiring line for guys that have played the game,
been around the game, et cetera. Right, you can go
old school and say you've got to pay your dues whatever,
but we know that's not not the way really any
any business works anymore. Chris, No man, Right, you walk
(36:46):
in the door, you could be the you know, vice
president on day one, depending on how a situation is
set up and how well you sell the room or
or have people in the room that wants you to succeed.
That's all fine and good. But saying that he owes
Reichti million dollars like, well, nobody forced you to keep
him around and give him an extension at that point,
and nobody had a problem with that hiring either. I mean,
(37:08):
I still think that they were. Here's here's a beautiful
captain hindsight moment for you're gonna You're gonna go in
on Ballard because I think you and I are the
only two people in radio that are you sure that
it's okay to say something bad about Chris Ballard? Hey,
you remember that a vote of confidence today? Did you?
Did you see that time whenever the guy called him
for a trade to man and he hung up the
(37:29):
phone on him and said, I can't talk. I'm making
a train Chris Ballard he stakes. But I will say this,
I wasn't necessarily going that route, but I agree the
bazillion percent on that. If that's even a number, I
think that they would have been in a much better
spot just leaving Frank Raik in there the rest of
the year. I mean, what have you gained outside of
making this team a fourth quarter disaster? Now you beat
the Raiders. So i'd score ninety to nine right after
(37:52):
the seven oh performance last night. Yeah, nine, since he
took over six of those nine points came against the
Raiders and overall in the last uple of games, I
think it's a saying looking at like sixty two to
zero in the last three games in the fourth quarters.
So again, no one had a problem with her, say,
giving him that money. No one had a problem with
him bringing him in his head coach. Remember Daniels left
(38:13):
him at the altar. I still think they pulled the
rug out from him too early anyway, So I don't
know what he's apologizing for. It's actually one of the
few things they did right. Yeah, I think the biggest
thing here is stop Apollo, you know, looking at that
as the problem, Your GM is the problem. Keep going
back like and the rest of the roster. Right, obviously
you lose Shaquille Leonard. He can't play for you this year.
(38:35):
That's huge, and he may never play again. We'll see
you have all these other things. They've been waiting, wishing
and hoping with a shrine to Andrew Luck who comes
around and and shakes hands and kisses babies. You know what,
that's years years ago, right, it's in the rear view.
And all you've done is put bandages on the quarterback
position year after year. How much time do we spend
in a given calendar year on sports talk radio talking
(38:57):
about the importance of the quarterback position. And I love
Philip Rivers about as much as anybody possibly can. I
celebrate the guy's entire catalog. He was done. Now you've
got Nick Foles getting the vote of confidence. Matt Ryan,
what are we doing? That's where your problem is not
break right? Get the quarterback situation figured out. Plenty of
(39:19):
them on the market this year. Maybe your guy Derek
Carr could be uh breaking my heart. Well, it could
be a cult. We'll see coming up next we stick
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(00:44):
and you've gotten a lot of great sports talk with
him filling in for me. So I I appreciated Chris
a little bit of time off with the kids so
they can tell me what I'm doing wrong, uh this
past year, So I appreciate it. We had the airring
of grievances and we're back in in the Fox Sports
Radio studios, and I gotta say I've never heard an
(01:06):
update like the one Mons just gave us where the
excitement was palpable. Either that or she was. She's running
on a treadmill while giving the update. This game is
crazy between the Knicks and the Mavericks. I don't blame her.
One sixteen to fifteen remaining in this bat bleeph is
what it is right now, which is I mean Lucas
(01:28):
on fire. Uh the Knicks are imploading. Kind of one
of those nights where maybe it'd be better to see
a fool on Jason Smith meltdown than uh here in
me tonight. But I mean, this is just incredible what
we're watching. We're we're good, Chris, You're you're good on that.
We're good. Fifties and ten the stat line. So if
(01:49):
in Daily Fantasy, or you've got Luca, or you've got
any investment in trading cards, maybe this is good because
you know, it's also two days after Christmas, which means
this game counts. That is true. Now the NBA matters.
It matters now, right, It's it's kind of a big deal.
But welcome to the NBA too. By the way, we're
in now into three. Operation shutdown happens almost nightly. If
(02:15):
you fall behind by ten points in the fourth quarter,
usually everyone taps out. So kudos to the Mavericks tonight
for not doing that. What we saw the Clippers do
that against the Pistons. That was that last night was
last night, Yeah that was that was the last everything's
running together, But I mean, this is this is good
stuff tonight. Look at the NBA taking some center stage,
taking our focus off this Guaranteed Rate Bowl and the
(02:36):
excitement that's currently taking place right now. So over time
firing up seven three game there as we've come to
the end of the first Oklahoma State with the lead
Wisconsin with the ball just barely into Oklahoma State territory.
We'll keep an eye on that because you are going
to the Cheese It Bowl. I sent your jealousy in
your voice, the excitement I love. Look, I love of events.
(03:01):
I love going to live events. If I had one
gripe with the job that I do, is that I
don't get to go to games during the week without
having to, you know, wrangle days off, make a bunch
of schedule changes, etcetera. And the kids, as you know,
travel sports and theater and all the different activities that
they have that your days off or not necessarily yours
(03:23):
to plan anymore, Right, you have to go according to
their schedule. If they're doing travel ball, you gotta wrangle
a day here and there, so you can't just say, hey,
you know what, it's a Wednesday. This this team I
want to see is in town. Equipment, baby, take your equipment.
Say I'm coming, give me a spot on press work. Bro,
I'm Mike freaking Harmon. I'm going to games. Come on,
(03:45):
but got this. But but I have to give up
the shift. Why you you you're you're going to do
the show? Put the headset on? Is going on? Yeah
that doesn't work. I like, I like that in theory.
I could use that comrax app well as they should. Uh,
if you're trying to do that. But I brought up
(04:07):
because you're going bowling and and I've gone to bowls
like one of my my first experience with Walt disney
World and really plane travel. I hadn't done much of
it as a kid in Chicago, and we just didn't
not to bring out the little violins or whatever, but
we just we didn't travel. We were poor, So yeah,
I I can, I can. We drove to relatives in
(04:27):
Indiana and Wisconsin and those were our our vacations, and
we liked it. We loved it. But then you know
we had when Northwestern played in the Citrus Bowl against
Peyton Manning and purely peerless price uh, and they beat
us all over the field, just like Keyshan Johnson had
the year before in the Rose Bowl. We went to
Disney World and we did all that. But it was
(04:48):
like that, that's my passion. Like college football for the
longest time was like I went every road game. I
think I missed two my entire college life. That's what
we did. All right, whose car are we using this week?
And we got in the car, we figured it out,
and it took shifts and slept where you could, got
work done where you could, and you went and because
(05:08):
of the nature of national radio, you know, not paying
attention to the the granular level of college football is
the once did because you know, Saturday is the kids
have their activities or whatever, so you've always got it
on your phone and that's one of the great crutches
that we have as as folks go. But I mentioned
the cheese at Bowl one because you get to go
(05:29):
and cover it and it's it's exciting and it gets
your your blood pumping. But also that you know, I
saw this from one of the guys that covers Florida
State that he got the information from a cheese at
Bowl representative that there's no such thing as cheese. It's right, right,
that it's cheese it crackers. That's right. If you have
more than one, that's right. But well, we screw up
(05:53):
pluralization of so many other things. Is that what you're
trying to tell me right now that I can't say
RBIs instead of runs bad it in I was. I'm
not gonna lie to you. I was a little bit
shook when I saw that. I'm not a massive cheese
it's guy. I'm a little bit more of a goldfish guy. Uh.
Really all those are bad for you. But uh, are
(06:14):
we at that level in life to where someone's gonna
complain and say, hey, buddy, they're not cheese, it's they're
cheese at crackers. And I am offended that you said
it wrong because you're changing the brand. Right, it's cheese
it not cheese. It's so they just want you to
keep on brand. Their brand is putting on a Bowl
(06:36):
game and hopefully having a great bowl gift for me
and tons of cheese. It's have you ever got any
anything really good? Have you ever called it a cheese
it cracker in your life? All right, then there you
go bleep their brand it's cheese. It's um no to
protect the brand, though I understand his Uh. Can I
tell you something? You know who needs brand protection right now?
(06:58):
Southwest Air allnes cheese it's does not have a brand
protection issue going out of saying whoa, whoa. Everyone stop
adding the s on the end of it. It's cheese
it crackers, not cheese at Southwest needs that guy protecting
now thinking of looking in which is always that's not good.
Like I don't usually get bowl gifts, So here's what happened.
(07:22):
You take it from somebody else? No, no, no, since
we travel with the with the radio network, right we uh,
our gifts usually end up where someone else gets him.
And I don't even know if we're considered like media,
but I will say the coolest thing that I ever
got was like a pool over. I got a pull
over at the Orange Bowl somehow, and this was you know,
it's funny because Prefet and I were actually talking about
(07:44):
this game before the show started whenever Cleman went to
the four team playoff against Clemson, and we got this
pool over and it's awesome. The problem is I've gotten
fat since I first got it, so I can't wear it.
But it's still awesome. Is that a motivator in the
for the new year? Because I based we got thirty
year class reunion might be the motivator for the new year,
but I would Yeah, I got shamed by the doctor,
(08:09):
So that's that's my motivation. Here's a print out of
what your readings are right now. You need less stress
less sports. You're a fantasy sports expert. There's no way
you're gonna get less stress in your life. Mike, Well,
you know, I'll take the derision. It's what we we
love here and that was the thing I didn't get
a lot of while I was on vacation except from
(08:31):
my family. Uh. But we come back here and however
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we take it all at Swollen Dome where you find
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(08:52):
Genius One, you all know the tag. You don't have
to promote, No I do, because he'll be here tomorrow.
I got attached to him, Jason. We do call me Jason.
So I'm getting mad at you breaking up Artie all
the time. I call you Jason, which is worse, and
then I separate myself. All right, you get to experience
that misery for two more days this week, so good
(09:12):
luck with that. I want to uh, no question about
it's it's one of us. I'll have to do the
Miami therapy, no doubt with him as well. But I
mean watching this. Uh now, now we've got the Mavericks
with a four point lead one nineteen because we gotta
go back to you know what leads here as Tom
Thibodeau has lost whatever Harry had left, uh thirty four
(09:36):
seconds left. Luca at the foul line just had this
sent to me. Uh. Third player in NBA history is
Luca Donge. It's fifty points, twenty rebounds, and tennissists in
the game. The only other two guys to do it
Will did it twice, Elgin Baylor did it once and
now Lucas at sixty what sixty? And Frostburg says it's
(10:02):
the Knicks, so it really only counts is no, don't don't.
Don't let Frostburg do that. The Knicks are not as
bad as they typically are. Disrespect Luca. Well, it's really
just a function of if Smith were here, he would
be in his ear constantly, and I know he's listening
out there because really he would love to be out
on air for this one. Uh sixty one thirty one
(10:25):
from the field. Only six three point tries. Ponder that
for a second, only six three point tries two of
six and sixteen of twenty two from the fall line.
Sixty point night. Unbelievable, unbelievable. You know, we've been fighting
and scratching and claude for a little bit more respect
for Shay Gil just Alexander around these here parts, and
(10:46):
he's been pretty solid. But then when you start having
those conversations about, you know, top ten players in the league,
maybe the elite of the elite, even an m v
P conversation that Kevin Duran has re entered a night
like this, a comeback like this and pulling away eight
like the Mavericks are, and and it's about to go final.
This is one of the more epic regular season performances
(11:07):
we've seen. Given where Dallas was in the final thirty
three seconds of that game, this is unfreaking believable right now,
Luca going off, I gosh, Knicks fans are gonna lose
their ever love in mind. Should get it? They should,
Holy smokes man. This is a this is a special
player doing special things well, and that's always the beauty
of it. Right. I'm not a big, you know, top
(11:27):
five now kind of kind of guy with individual players,
especially on December, but you've got to commemorate greatness as
it happens. And you try to tell me you don't
want to do the mount rushmore of great individual performances
right here at seven Fox, we can we can do
a top ten and list all the guys whose games
(11:49):
we didn't see. Here's here's ten games at Will Chamberlain head.
End of story. Here's a bunch that Kareem had back
when he was Louel Cinder. Next, I can do a
bunch of Jordans games. I guess if we want to
go down that road. But yeah, just an amazing performance
Grimes had thirty three for the Knicks. Doesn't matter. Randall
(12:10):
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Luke also a huge follow up because we were talking
about his fashion choices. That cowboy had he was rocking
on Christmas Day was prettretty. So yeah, the car to
what was it an old Camaro that he rolled up in.
I mean he he knew that, he knew the cameras was.
We're on game on, baby, I it's it's unbelievable. I
(12:54):
know we're gonna talk about this and ma is gonna
be all over it in her updates. Sixty points, twenty
one rebounds, ten assist. I mean, with this team down,
what was it like five points in the final thirty
three seconds. More than that, it's Reggie Miller esque. Baby,
let's go. There is this up there with the greatest
performance against the Nike shirt calls? Is this the top
(13:15):
five performance against New York of all time. Let's your
text include Michael Jordan and the Double Nickel. Right, you
can do this all day long. Are you a cowboy
hat guy? Because I actually revealed to these guys that
I have a cowboy hating have spink with cowboy with
a cow hide kind of band on it. My daughter
(13:36):
rides horses, she's a barrel racer, so I I have one.
Every single time that I've worn it, she's like, Dad,
you're embarrassing me. Take it off. So and I got
it out of Love's travel stops too, So it's not
like basically done. Yeah, it's not like it's the fanciest
cowboy had, but it works for me. Baby. Uh yeah,
I I do. I would wrap it it, just it doesn't.
(13:57):
It's like flat bills. Flat bills don't look it on me.
Cowboy hats are okay, but I feel like I'm trying
to be something I'm not. And of course I live
in I live in Flyover Country. So if you wear it,
you gotta represent you gotta know what you're doing. Well,
that's it. Gotta make sure that style style works for
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(15:49):
blow a big lead and watch Luca take another step
into saying I'm the man swagger, no question about it,
ever been done in the history of the NBA. It's
crazy stuff. Luca saying he needs a recovery beer in
the post game. Did you hear that? Classics and I
got tired. I don't know if he knew where he
(16:11):
was score points wise, because the sideline reporter literally told Luca, uh,
triple doubles and he kind of looked at him, and
he and he and he was shocked. Listen to this.
This was fantastic moments ago. Courtesy of Valley Point Tony rebound,
triple devil, sixty points Tony boards never never happened. Baby,
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How does it fail? Right now? He said he's tired.
My stupid cat just jumped on my computer. But yeah,
I said he's tired, and then he needs a recovery
beer Luca. Whenever he looked at him, Mikey didn't even
realize that he had sixty points in the game. That's
I don't know if that's BS right. I don't know
how often he's sneaking up with his scoreboard. I don't
know how easily accessible it is for people at the
(16:54):
American Airline Center in Dallas. But holy smokes man, this
is one of those nights that if you just started
watching the n b A, I'm just here to tell
you this ain't typical of what this regular season has
been like so far. That was awesome. Well, you know what,
it's the new year, right. We we talked about Christmas
Day and we saw the ratings of how the NFL
squashed them even with three three games that weren't let's
(17:18):
just say the the most pleasing to the eyeballs. And
I'm sure plenty of folks went away from the game
we're about to talk about UH in the second half
to do something else, or they just turned on the
Nickelodeon version UH and watched people in the crowd gets
slimed as the Broncos got stomped by the Rams. But yeah,
this is the time where you start paying attention. You're
(17:40):
looking at trends were past that December date, were some
freeing up of the trade possibilities are there for disgruntled
players or teams where things are obviously not working as
they they thought they would in terms of viability or chemistry, cohesion,
et cetera. So yeah, where what a way to kick
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it off in a holiday season? A lot of eyeballs
obviously folks home homebound and and home stuck based on
weather travel, maybe in airport's watching that game live and
in living color as well, but certainly a show for
the ages from Luca Dodge. It's today we look at
the Denver Broncos to to make that hard transition, and well,
(18:24):
because I referenced it with the Rams running all over them,
cam akers saying I I'm a viable running back, Look
at me Baker Mayfield, etcetera. But more of the dumpster
fire that has been the Denver Broncos. Hackett gets fired
Jerry Rossberg, who was brought in in week three to
be the efficiency expert. Right, he was the guy long
(18:45):
time assistant h in the National Football League. It's like, Oh,
he's the guy that's gonna help with down distance, clock
management and everything else. After they woefully mismanaged things in
that season opener against they took away decision making from him.
They took away game management from the head coach period.
That's what they did. Well, he brought you know, there's
so much he's gotta pay attention to do. So they said, hey,
(19:07):
here's a guy that's gonna get in your ear like
your guardian angel, to make sure you don't look like
a fool. Uh. And even then it didn't matter four
an eleven. I always wonder what the offense might have
looked like if Tim Patrick was healthy. No, I'm just kidding. Uh.
There's so many other issues going on there as well
as the well the decline of Western civilization and Russell
(19:27):
Wilson that we had seen begin in Seattle. But everybody
got blinded by the name history et cetera. To uh,
to notice, right, especially once you have a new ownership
group that then gives him a huge shiny contract. But
we had ownership take to the podium today to talk
about the changes to come. I want to personally apologize
(19:48):
to our fans in all a Broncos country. We know
that we need to be better and we will. Yeah
that's coming from Penner. Uh and the owners, No kidding,
You've got a great fan base, You've got an awesome franchise. Uh.
And they're on I don't know about their eight different
coach since Mike Shanahan. About your fifth different quarterbacks since
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Peyton Manning. Yeah, no kidding, boy, Jason Lockinford was right
back in the first hour. You kid me. Oh, we're
so sorry. Well why did you give him the stupid contract?
Come on, well you get into the shiny object, right you.
Everybody knows you need a quarterback. This is the guy
that you thought would come in and and you wanted
to have the fans excited. You're the new owner. You
(20:32):
want to make a splash, and this is the guy
you do it. Uh, Now, we could we do it
in baseball all the time. Everybody's been doing it. For
weeks and oh, that guy's gonna be thirty seven, thirty
eight years old. Well, in football, we're now comparing everything
to Tom Brady, how he played though he's forty five.
This guy will be just fine at the end of
his thirties, even though you've already seen a little bit
of decline in Seattle. Forget about the whole rift with
(20:56):
with his teammates, the stuff we saw on Sunday when
you've got to back up trying to step in for him.
Come on, now, Brett Rippon, get the hell out of there. Uh,
that's not your fight to have with the offensive line,
but showing that on the sidelines that you know, pushing
him away, and and then after the game, we got
(21:16):
punches being thrown between the squads and everything else, frustration
boiling over. But you bring in Hackett thinking you're going
to have this breakthrough because you've got Sutton and you've
got Jerry Judy, and you've got in theory, the two
headed backfield that you liked with Javonte Williams in his
second year. And then you bring back Melvin Gordon. Problem
(21:38):
is Melvin Gordon forgot So we're talking about Wisconsin players
a lot uh, forgot how to hold onto the football.
So even your opportunities where you did have chances to
make hey, you've fumbled them away. Right. The decision making
was terrible in a number of circumstances. The other was
bringing him back and then giving him big time carries
(22:01):
in short yardage goal line situations. But we've never seen
that offense where Hackett was supposed to be the guy
to figure it out, where they made no strides. And
they've been together what since March. You've gone through a
whole season, so by now you should have at least
seen some semblance of consistency and not just what a
quarter and a half or whatever it was against Kansas
(22:23):
City before Wilson got hurt. That was the most exciting
fifteen minutes of football they've seen all year. It's funny
to me because I I kind of saw signs of
issues from day one. Right whenever you get Russell Wilson
talking about this is gonna be a collaborative effort with
your offense. No, you can't have a collaborative effort between
(22:45):
a coach and a quarterback. Sure you're gonna you're gonna
hear your offense towards their strengths. But it happened when
you did that just the last couple of years in Seattle,
right exactly. So I don't I don't understand why rest
It felt like he needed to have such a role
in in in what this offense was gonna be, Like,
will be the player, let your coaches figure out what
(23:06):
can work around you. Listen, Nathaniel Hackett was in over
his head. Now, Mike, what do you do going forward?
If you're Denver, you're kind of stuck. You don't have
the draft capital, your stock. But that's just it. You're
stuck with this giant contract. You've got no draft capital.
We talked with Jason luck And for the last hour,
and you know, the Sean Payton, he's being attached to everybody.
Now that the Chargers are qualified for the playoffs, everybody's saying, well,
(23:29):
that's all all bets are off there because look at
what Staley has done this year. Like if you like
Sean Payton more, you like Sean Payton Moore, right, whatever
the outcome is. But so I don't categorically rule that out.
But yeah, he could be on TV for another year,
who knows. But at this point, why would he go
to Denver mid thirties quarterback showing signs of of falling
(23:53):
off and certainly has right decision making, is willingness to
run all of those friction with teammates, which goes back
to Seattle. You see anybody from Seattle sticking up for
him over the past year, Chris, Now have you seen
any of his Denver teammates outside of bred Rippon sticking
up for Is it a good job? It's a terrible
job right now. It's a great franchise long term, but
(24:15):
with with what you've got, saddled with two hundred plus
million for Russell Wilson, and I mean, who's taken that
poison pill? Right? Are are they gonna say in two years,
we're just gonna have all the the dead dead cap Right.
It's just the guy that wants to be one of
thirty two. Right, Because you've got a good defense, right,
we know that that works at least for most of
the year, and then whatever Sunday was, right, that's the
(24:39):
aberration to it in the final nail in the coffin
of the Hacket era. But you know, you at least
have a defense that week to week was competitive and
kepting games. But when we we look at it going forward. Yeah,
it's just the one someone who wants to add NFL
coach for whatever that length of time would be to
their resume. Do you know, and I know we gotta
(25:01):
get our update, but do you know what his dead
cap hit is for the next couple of years? For
those of you that like you, Well, why don't you
just taught him? If you're so tired of him, why
don't you just taught him his dead cap hits it?
Oh no, Mike, you're not close. It's a hundred and
seven million dollars, which over over just for next year,
(25:24):
it's eighty five million dollars in eighty five. Uh, it's
eighty five million dollars in twenty four, it's forty nine
point six million dollars in five. You can't just get
out of this by saying audios. Now, there might be
some injury situations in there. I don't know what that
language looks like. Listen, I didn't know, but Derek Carr
(25:44):
had in his contract that we found out. But this
is a a shockingly bad contract for the Broncos. Right,
this isn't even a team for There's no out on
that front. So I mean you're looking at hundreds of
millions of dollars that it's going to cosset to if
you even think you can't. I mean, let's let's say
you can't and you're gonna Are you gonna trade them?
(26:05):
So you're right. I don't know why Sean Payton would
want to go there. I don't know if anyone's is
still excited about working with Russell Wilson. But it's gonna
be fascinating to see what this coaching search looks like. Yeah,
I got my forty nine from the average per year
value of the contract going from memory. Uh, but yeah,
the dead cat numbers daunting. It's like you're sitting there
(26:25):
going with the league account and it's like, can you
tell us what the cat might look like? Are we
gonna get a huge jolt from putting things on YouTube?
Is that going to help us with the Sunday ticket?
Is that gonna give us any any relief in terms
of our share of revenue? Yeah, you have no draft picks.
You're gonna have to go cheap on a quarterback once
you decide to move on. Whoever comes in takes this job.
(26:48):
I mean, you're more or less said by the new
coach reporting to ownership that George Payton is just an
empty suit, right, I mean that's pretty much what you
said at here. You're not reporting to him, are you?
Are you gonna gut your entire operation, all you're scouting,
all your evaluators. Does does that go to the wayside
as well? Like they're just did a complete overhaul. Like
(27:12):
I had no no confidence in them coming into the year.
I thought they were gonna be the worst team in
the in the West. Happily I was right. A lot
of people, though disagreed with us. I was right there
with a lot of people. Had that Daniel Hackett multiple
Coach of the Year winner. You still have people to
this day defending Russell Wilson. Apparently they don't watch football.
The apologists are always going to be out there, but
(27:34):
I just listen. I'm a Raiders fan, so I I
don't care if Dinverse stinks, but I do I do
have great respect for their fan base and base, and
I appreciate it the place out Yeah, yeah, it's it's
a it's a great fan base, but they've been sold
a bill of goods the last few years. And and
guys like I've always called him George Patton. It's George Payton, right, yeah, okay,
So and guys like what you want to just have
(27:55):
the general on the mind. I get it. Maybe that's
part of it. I don't know one whatever it takes,
but in in Peyton and what he's done in running
that organization always seems to get to shine from the media.
Him and Chris Pollard can do no wrong in the
eyes of the NFL media. But yet they've struggled to
figure out the one most important thing, and that's a
quarterback position. We were all celebrating Russ. It's not gonna work, man,
(28:19):
He's got to get serious about his conditioning. He's got
to get back to understanding his limitations. You can't go
out there and run away from dudes anymore that that
that fear was not there. So I'm I think this
is gonna be the quarterback changes this offseason. I think
are gonna again be in the double digits. I don't
you can't do anything with Russ, but I'll be fascinated
(28:39):
to see if they go to get an offensive guy
to try to fix them, if they want to keep
their defense in in toe. So they're like, all right,
we're gonna bring in dan Quinn, go find me the
best offensive coordinator. I think this higher and what happens
in that quarterback carousel, and if it's somehow involves Denver
is going to be fascinating. Well, the curiosity of how
do you play Kate uh and make him feel comfortable
(29:02):
with whatever Mr Unlimited has left? But you know from Nickelodeon,
this probably is the play that summarizes the Broncos season
as best we possibly can. Searching in long and the
Broncos and goes to the big Horsey players. They have
the ball and they're gonna see if they can find
(29:22):
a way to move it. Ah nice, and so what's
who there's Rust Wilson. It's called goption. That's why that's
not what he wanted to cook. No, I think he
(29:43):
burn whatever he was cooking. Bobby Wagner with the interception.
Let's so cal kidd back home, Patrick hal exiding, is
that Bobby Wagon coming to town and doing that with
his old teammate Bill fager backy Uh the voice of
Dabber and of course Patrick Star is part of the Nickelodeon.
(30:05):
I thought that was someone doing a bad impersonation, Now
it it was. It was the guy. Huh, there's some
behind the scenes video of having him do it. Remember
he's been doing this forever. That's true. I mean, SpongeBob's
going on like our voice has changed. Go back and
listen to some of your air checks from five years ago.
I did they sound exactly the same, soot lies. So
(30:25):
here's the thing that's interesting to me. I came away
shocked on Sunday by how many people had no idea
who Patrick Starr was. That was. That was the thing
that because that that video made its rounds, you know,
beyond just the Nickelodeon broadcast and and what they did.
But I was blown away, blown away by how many
people had no idea that was. You want to talk
(30:46):
about moments that are humbling, right, there's being benched, there's
being cut, there's being fired, having your interception called by
Patrick Star Mike, that's got to be up there with
one of the most humbling things that can happen to
any athlete in the history of That also gotta be honored.
That's true, right, I mean, because look, everybody, you play
in the NFL long enough, you've probably been fee I mean,
(31:08):
you haven't at least the Thursday Night football game, So
one of the biggest names in broadcasting has said your
name at least once. In this case, you've got Patrick
Starr from the Little Bikini Bottom who was on that game?
It was it was it was Fox Right that had
the broadcast. So you either get like the Kevin Burke
Hearts are whomever went okay okay. Then then you get
(31:34):
the actual broadcast, which is him and I think Adam
Amen is on with him, So you get those two guys,
or or you get Nate Burlison, I an Eagles kid,
and Patrick Starr. I think you're right. I think you
get an elite talent calling your your interception. That's that's
a plus for one rus. Yeah, And of course I
I get that wrong because it was How can I
(31:55):
forget Nansen and Romo? How can I forget them laughing
at and wishing that they had a running clock. They
made every joke possible about how quickly can we get
this game over by halftime? They were done. Don't blame him, well,
if you know, we've had our share of those. Luca
bothered oftentimes. Is it his reputation as a whiner, So
(32:16):
I mean he certainly can get bothered at time who
in the NBA isn't hey man, you're begging for calls.
You always want the next one. The problem is they
catch everything you do. Uh, film wiscouts are back into
the red zone and keep an eye on that. Back
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which is fantastic. Doesn't Frostberg get his own segment tonight?
I mean, my god, man, the Chargers are back in
the playoffs, first time under Justin Herbert. I think they
can go and win some games, man. I think they're
pretty damn good. I can go stretch a little bit.
I mean they need the run game, and obviously the
sightings of Boss are like that of a Yetti thus far.
(34:37):
So if he can get back on the field and
give them some meaningful snaps. Now we're talking because we're
looking at a situation where they can still get to
the five. I know that's speaking of stretches. They can
still get to the five. I think you want here's
my thought. I think you want to avoid Cincinnati. I
don't know, you want to avoid anybody. You go in
and kick their ass. I like that mindset, but I probably, boy,
(35:01):
that's tough. They've played well against the Chiefs, so I
don't think i'd have any problems with I don't know.
FROs very correct me if I'm wrong. They've played well
against the Chiefs, so I wouldn't have any problems going
up against Kansas City. In Kansas City, right, They've They've
been a good foe for Cincinnati. I'm telling you, Harmon,
I think they can do some things, but there is
likely to win a game thirty one to seven. Is
(35:23):
they already get beat thirty one to seven, which is
a hard thing. That's why to try to quantify with
the team right now, defense playing better. I want to
see the more from the run game that's been uh problematic,
But you're getting the catches from Austin necklace, so we
can fight about you know, is that just as good
as having the run game right when you've got a
guy that's got a hundred catches. You've seen how we're
(35:43):
Tampa at times, either of their backs white or four
net while they're not getting much on the ground, they're
catching seven balls and moving the chains that way. So
we're we're looking at that with the Chargers. But you know,
let's let's stay with the dumpster fire that is the
Jim Ursay, in an interview with ESPN, said, quote, I
(36:04):
reluctantly gave Frank an extension sooner than I wanted to. Okay,
gave it to Frank Wright before one season, and then
fired him after the three five and one start, right
eleven and five, nine and eight, three five and one. Now,
I defended the hiring of Jeff Saturday. It's your team,
(36:24):
do whatever the hell you want, uh, and for the curiosity,
because if it worked, then you open a whole other
potential hiring line for guys that have played the game,
been around the game, et cetera. Right, you can go
old school and say you've got to pay your dues whatever,
but we know that's not not the way really any
any business works anymore. Chris, No man, Right, you walk
(36:46):
in the door, you could be the you know, vice
president on day one, depending on how a situation is
set up and how well you sell the room or
or have people in the room that wants you to succeed.
That's all fine and good. But saying that he owes
Reichti million dollars like, well, nobody forced you to keep
him around and give him an extension at that point,
and nobody had a problem with that hiring either. I mean,
(37:08):
I still think that they were. Here's here's a beautiful
captain hindsight moment for you're gonna You're gonna go in
on Ballard because I think you and I are the
only two people in radio that are you sure that
it's okay to say something bad about Chris Ballard? Hey,
you remember that a vote of confidence today? Did you?
Did you see that time whenever the guy called him
for a trade to man and he hung up the
(37:29):
phone on him and said, I can't talk. I'm making
a train Chris Ballard he stakes. But I will say this,
I wasn't necessarily going that route, but I agree the
bazillion percent on that. If that's even a number, I
think that they would have been in a much better
spot just leaving Frank Raik in there the rest of
the year. I mean, what have you gained outside of
making this team a fourth quarter disaster? Now you beat
the Raiders. So i'd score ninety to nine right after
(37:52):
the seven oh performance last night. Yeah, nine, since he
took over six of those nine points came against the
Raiders and overall in the last uple of games, I
think it's a saying looking at like sixty two to
zero in the last three games in the fourth quarters.
So again, no one had a problem with her, say,
giving him that money. No one had a problem with
him bringing him in his head coach. Remember Daniels left
(38:13):
him at the altar. I still think they pulled the
rug out from him too early anyway, So I don't
know what he's apologizing for. It's actually one of the
few things they did right. Yeah, I think the biggest
thing here is stop Apollo, you know, looking at that
as the problem, Your GM is the problem. Keep going
back like and the rest of the roster. Right, obviously
you lose Shaquille Leonard. He can't play for you this year.
(38:35):
That's huge, and he may never play again. We'll see
you have all these other things. They've been waiting, wishing
and hoping with a shrine to Andrew Luck who comes
around and and shakes hands and kisses babies. You know what,
that's years years ago, right, it's in the rear view.
And all you've done is put bandages on the quarterback
position year after year. How much time do we spend
in a given calendar year on sports talk radio talking
(38:57):
about the importance of the quarterback position. And I love
Philip Rivers about as much as anybody possibly can. I
celebrate the guy's entire catalog. He was done. Now you've
got Nick Foles getting the vote of confidence. Matt Ryan,
what are we doing? That's where your problem is not
break right? Get the quarterback situation figured out. Plenty of
(39:19):
them on the market this year. Maybe your guy Derek
Carr could be uh breaking my heart. Well, it could
be a cult. We'll see coming up next we stick
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