Hour 2 - The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon

Jason Smith and Mike Harmon continue to provide updates on Bills safety Damar Hamlin, and the amazing work being done by people across the country in donating to his charity

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now while we are waiting for more updates on tomorrow. Hamlin,

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it was a good day today, if you could say
what was today like for him? After suffering a cardiac
arrest incident, uh during the game last night when he
tackled t Higgins, he goes to the hospital. We didn't
know was he going to live, was he not. His
uncle did a couple of interviews today saying he's fighting
and he's in great hands. He is using less oxygen

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then he has needed uh last night, you need oction
last night. Now he's at fifty oxygen and the next
steps for him is to be able to breathe on
his own and his lungs heal. So it's going to
be a long road for tomorrow, Hamlin. But it looks
like today at least was a bit on the positive.
Like I said, if you look at as a needle

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at zero and and which way it would go, it's
it's on the positive side today. And you know, great
stuff happening with support for him and his his go
fund me drive. Uh So, you know, you're seeing the
way that the NFL and athletes are all around the
sports world are reacting and and have him in the
thoughts and prayers, and it's it's it's it's really great
to see that and that today was kind of a

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positive day for him. So that's good. Now. The other
side of this, you see is some things that are
said on TV and the radio by TV analysts that
make you just sit back and go, oh my goodness. Right,
I mean you you saw you saw Bart Scott today,
uh getting getting a ton of of hot water because

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he said that T Higgins lowered his helmet into uh
Damar Hamlin and it's his fault. Hamlin had the heart
attack when he really lowered his shoulder and made a
football play, right, I mean, that's kind of what it was,
and that that's what I mean that that's like, did
you even watch the play? I mean, yes, he lowered.
He looks that's how you do It's how you play football.
But he didn't h him with that. He lowered his shoulder.
It happened. It was an awful accident, It was awful,

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but the play it wasn't anything abnormal by NFL standards.
And you know, you saw this happen with Bart Scott,
and you go, what is the guy played in the
NFL for a long time. What is he doing? You've
seen other people who have been in hot water and
had to talk about things. Look what today on Undisputed
Skip Bayless in the first twenty minutes talking about uh

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the event and and apologizing for for what he tweeted
out last night and Shannon Sharpe wasn't there. He's gonna
be back tomorrow. You know. It's it's been that kind
of day. It's it's a difficult thing. And you know,
but but I look back and and and I see,
I see the the human aspect of this. And this
is where I'm glad that I know that I knew

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last night coming, and I'm like, I know what what
we want to do and what we want to say.
I know that the right tone to have for this,
And it's it's it's a skill, right, It's not saying, hey,
we're the greatest radio hosts in the world, but this
was a human thing. And and to to be able
to talk about it, it really should be a switch
that you can flip from all right, hey sports sports,

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sports to this is human and and it should be
a pretty easy switch to flip on that. And and
and that's where like as soon as that happened, you
can see the reaction from Okay, let's stop the game,
let's not play, we can't do it. We we gotta
we gotta move on. This guy's getting CPR on the field,
and and let's go forward with it. So this is
where you know, that's something where we should be easily

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be able to make that that switch to go to
that and quite honestly, looking at the shows that you know,
and and and Skip even talked about it today, we
didn't know if we were gonna do a show today.
I don't know that any of those shows should have
been on the air today. I think that that might
have been something where these are shows that are made
for debate right and there, and they're great shows that
are on the air, whether whether it's undisputed or first take,

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all these shows are a look. They stir the pot
every day and and it's and it's it's hot takes,
and it's theater and it's awesome. I don't know the
show should have been on today because it's very difficult
in in the aftermath of that to try how do
you have a sports discuss? How do you have a debate? Right?
It's very difficult when when okay, this is about reporting
and talking about a situation, because, like like I said

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last night, sometimes the most important thing with and and
with with something like this is just to talk about
it and not to worry about Hey, am I saying this?
Am I saying? I? Am I saying this? And are
people taking away a point you know on my Am
I telling you something? Am I giving you a big
take that you're big, you're polarized on Sometimes it's just
important to talk about things. And I don't know, you know,

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seeing those shows and going oh man today, all those shows,
I don't know what kind of position you were being
put in two to succeed because the shows it's it's
a very specific show to be to be done. Hey,
we're talking about sports, we're arguing about takes, we have
opinions on it. It's hot, it gets heated, it's fun,
it's it's high energy, it's all of these things. This
is a very different kind of a kind of day

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coming off it. Now tomorrow everything will be back to
normal because you've had some time and we're waiting and okay,
we're getting updates on tomorrow, Hamlin, and things are going okay,
and you know that the world does go on. I
mean that that's kind of how it goes. So tomorrow
I was like, Okay, we're gonna be back to normal.
We'll be talking about football this weekend and and basketball
and all these different things. But I thought today was
a really tough day for that and I knew going in,
I go stuff's gonna happen today, that it's gonna be

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very difficult to see and it's gonna be difficult to
consume because I don't think today was the day for
those shows. Yeah, I think for the day, for two days,
whatever that time period is, you, I would hope you
have it in you went your staff, which is extensive
on the TV side, uh, in the wheelhouse, that you
don't need to do hot take debate and you can

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have a discussion and it can be nuanced and it
doesn't mean you can't do other topics. Right. We were
on air as this was developing. So for us and
into Ben Maller last night, yes, this was the big
story and and UM would have looked for maybe some
more of the NBA big headlines, etcetera. No, that's not

(09:05):
where we were. We were starting to get updates from
the medical center and looking at the the NFL world
as they reacted and trying to bring the human side
of all of this, as well as keeping you a
prize of whatever details that came through. So for today,
I know, uh, Shannon Sharpe uh is a new grand papa.

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So that's I think part of the equation to this
uh skips tweet last night that had some hundred million
views before we got off air. He had the last
couple of words that you could argue couched it. But
as we know, people don't even read the two characters
of a tweet in terms of processing. So while he

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would be scintillating, right and and trying to be provocative,
that's what it got. And you got the apologies and
the solo work today. You know, for you and I
it's the are watching games and and events as they transpire,
alive and in living color, uh, and obviously the stories

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of the day, and we try to give you a
unique spin uh from our experience and maybe again more
nuanced uh, in the in the moment as it comes in,
you know, without punting it saying hey it's too fresh,
or or I don't have an opinion. No, that's not
the way it works. It is some of it read react, watch, react,
et cetera. And I would think if you've had twelve hours,

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you can put together forty minutes of television to tell
the tale, I would hope. But you know, I'm not
the programming guy, Jason. I I'm trying to be the
glass half full faith in humanity. Guy that even even
if the the act, the persona is ranting and it
has to be hot take nonsense as that we've dubbed
it on the show, and I'll wear that I actually

(10:54):
registered the domain for a while. UH. Is that you
can You can pivot when circumstance is warrant, especially with
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have enough time to plan to show. You just said, hey,
you have enough time to plan for a four you
minute show, and in theory, I would say, yes, you
do right, I mean, look, because you and I are
going from the standpoint of last night, we planned for
a four hour show, and fifteen minutes before the show

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went on, we threw it all out the window and
and and talked about what happened with Tomorrow Hamlin for
four hours. Right that there's there's being able to do that.
But there's when when you're trying to do something specific
like like here's this, here's a debate show, and it's
made a certain way, I don't know that you can
you can you can capture the correct tone. It's really

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really difficult, you know it was. I'll give you an example.
So when I was doing UH Fantasy Live for NFL
Network right a few years ago, we were we were
doing a segment on Sunday morning, We're going into the
games about defenses to stream for that for that for
that week and going into the the show, we had

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this debate. It was like a debate thing plan like
I everybody was one on one. It was a whole
big thing where I was one on one with somebody
where I was gonna say you take this defense and
the other person's am no, take this defense, and then
we would vote to see who one, and then another
two people would come on. It was just a bit
to say, hey, here's what we think you should stream defensively.
So we hadn't. We rehearsed it and everything was fine,

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and then you know, the night before UH, there was
the tragic accent that Josh bren Carr accident that that
killed a teammate um on on the Dallas Cowboys, and
it was a really big deal and it was oh
my god, it's it's terrible and what happened. And so,
you know, we go into the show and I had
forgotten that we were going to do that, and so
we get to the segment before and they go, all right,

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we're ready for this. Ready as I go, I go, guys,
I go, we we can't do this. We can't. I
can't sit here and try to sell you on the
Cowboys defense streaming them when this this just happened. This
is really and now now for us for the show
doing fantasy, we're we spending a lot of time talking
about the Cowboys defense. No, unless you're talking about a
wide receiver going up against somebody. So we were able
to stay away from it for the most part. But
I said, guys, this is Cowboys defense. I go, I

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I don't know. I don't know. I don't know that
I can that I can sell this. And it got
to the point where the producer said to me, I
think it'll be fine, just just do it. I think
it'll be fine. And I'm like, yeah, I don't know.
I don't know. So we go to do it, because
now at this point we're a few minutes before the
end of the show, and that's like ninety seconds that
we would have to come up with something else to do.

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I'm like, we can come up with something else to do.
It's not that big a deal. But they were like, no, no,
go do it, Go do it. And so I go
up there and I forget who I was up against,
and it was weird because you know, the person went
And then it was my turn of talking about the
Cowboys defense. I'm going, I am just not feeling this.
I'm really not you on on this. And I said, hey,
Cowboys defense has done this, this, this, this, and I'm going,

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I I really am not. I I just am not
And I knew I made a horrible argument, and I
dumped out of it, like after a few seconds. I go, hey,
you know what Vikings defense is good. You know Cowboys
they've been playing really well. And I walked away going
that just that just stunk. That that just really stunk,
you know. And it was and if and if I'm
and if I'm if I'm remembering right, the person who

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I went up against was like celebrating after that they
thought they won the debate against me, and I'm going, wow, man, okay, okay, okay, alright.
I I didn't think that was right. So it's hard.
So my point is that it's hard to capture that
tone even when you're trying to do you know, hey, here,
here's your intentions of doing it. When when the show
is about you know, debate and advice and this and that,

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it's sometimes hard to capture it and say, hey, this
is the same show you've watched listening to. It's it's
hard to really sell it when that's what you do.
When you have to change gears like that for something
like that. Yeah, I'm gonna go back in the videotape
because I have my thoughts on who it was. Yeah, well,
oh well listen listen when I say I forget who
it was, I know exactly who it was. I know
exactly who it was, and I'm not surprised that person

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did that. But the rest of it, you know, yeah,
everything else. Twitter At how about a fresco? Mike gets
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Mike Harmon. Uh coming up next, we got more uh
from this story involving tomorrow Hamlet again, more big thoughts
and prayers to him. But uh oh do we have
a big NBA story we gotta get to. That's straight

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the NBA tonight. And you know this is why? You know?

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Because for what have I said the last three weeks
about the NBA and how great the Pelicans are playing.
I'm mad I didn't have the sack to pick them
to go to the Western Conference Finals. Now, I was
more than happy Grizzlies Nuggets, right, my previous I'm happy
where they are right now, right, Grizzlies and Nuggets. Hey,
it's awesome. I'm awesome, awesome, right, but boy, the way
the Pelicans were playing as great as Zion was playing.

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They lost Brandon Ingram, who hasn't played the month. Doesn't matter.
They're still winning games. Hey, the Pelicans, they've gone from
hey they could be a dangerous team to uh, the
Pelicans might be the best team in the Western Conference? Right,
they went that far? But what was the reason? I
always said why I couldn't pick the Pelicans more? Because
I just don't know how long Zion Williamson is going

(18:27):
to play because his health is always an issue. When
we find out today he's going to miss the next
three plus weeks with a hamstring strain he got hurt
in the game last night, and he's going to be
reevaluated in three weeks, So to think, Okay, he's out
three weeks. No, he'll be reevaluated in three weeks. And
you've seen Zion Williamson isn't the fastest healer in the world.

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This is a guy that's been out for a while.
I just don't know that his body can withstand the
pounding of an eighty two plus game NBA season, Right,
you don't know how for as long as he's going
to play, because because look that's the whole thing I've said. Whenever,
however long he plays, man, he's Shaquille O'Neal. He is it.
He is great. But you never know when that game

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is gonna be the last game he plays for a while. Right.
It's it's it's like when I would watch Jacob deGrom pitch.
Now you have to worry about that anymore. That's range
your fans issues or Dodger fans watching Clayton Kershaw pitches. Boy,
we're watching absolute artistry, but you're not. He's okay. Right
after the game is over, everything is fine. You didn't
come out with an injuries. Fine, you know you hold

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your breath every time these guys pitch because they're they're
just you know, they're just fragilely that their health has
always been an issue. And it's the same thing with
Zion Williamson and with the physical pounding of the NBA.
He's been hurt every year of his basketball life, from
his senior year in high school to where we are now.
You're talking about senior year, his first year at Duke,
three years in the NBA. So yeah, he's got a

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big time problem that he can't stay healthy. And this
is the thing is that when he plays, he's great,
but you don't know when he's going to be healthy,
how long he's going to be healthy for this. Hopefully
it's a three week thing and he's back soon because
the NBA is so much better when he's playing, because
his skill set is just off the charts and he

(20:15):
does things. I mean, it's like watching Shaquille O'Neil the
first time around. But I don't know that the if
if you asked me, hey, what what do you think
your best hope is for Zion Williamson and winning championships
and winning at all is I would say at this
point because it's been too much of his career to
think that suddenly he's going to be healthy, right like

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he's a big kid. He came to the league. He
was the second biggest guy in the league when he
walked in. He's just gonna get bigger as time goes on.
And already with his big frame, he's having trouble staying
in the lineup. The soft tissue injuries, uh, you know,
are things that that he's going to struggle with and
you're not gonna get healthier. You know. It's one thing
to have an injury bug, you know, the first year
or two in in in the NBA, or when you

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make it too into professional sports, then you get healthy.
But again, member, this is a guy that was hurt
every year from senior year a high school up until now.
You're talking about five years in a row. I would
say the best case in or what I would hope for,
when you can hope for if you're a Pelicans fan
or a Zion fan, is that maybe one year the
stars will align and he'll be healthy when he needs
to be, which is the right time in the regular

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season and all the way through the playoffs, and he
can win a championship. I mean, that's just that's just
being real, right, that's just being real. And what I
could what I could hope for for him is that
at some point it'll all come together for him one year,
because to think that it's always gonna happen where he's
going to I think we've seen that that's too difficult
for him. And and maybe it's about minutes restrictions. Maybe

(21:39):
it's you're getting you're getting time off now. I don't
care if you like it or not. You're not gonna
play in any back to backs. And if you're playing
three games in five days, you're gonna take one of
those games off. I mean, you want the guy to
be able to stay in the line up as much
as possible, and you're gonna have to start doing things
like this more regularly just to hope to keep him around.
But in the end, you can't stop the guy from
The guy's got to get out there and play a

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So what what's realistic? What you can hope for that
one year with the Pelicans The next few years while
he's got this big contract, they can go through and
he can be healthy when he needs to be, and
you get to see him all the way through in
the playoffs and all the way through in the in
the heat of June, when when we're talking NBA Finals
and we're talking about Zion like we talked about Lebron James,
you know, for the past fifteen years. That that's what

(22:22):
I think is the realistic hope. One, Maybe it's this year.
Maybe he comes back and this was his injury and
he gets back and plays all the way through. But
I can't count on that because I've seen what's happened
to him over the last few years. Yeah, the hard
part is what highlight reel he is. Obviously there's all
sorts of stories about Zion the guy. But twenty six
seven and four point six per game, averaging six from

(22:45):
the field. I'll get back to that momentarily. I mean,
he had twenty six and twenty eight minutes in that
game against Philadelphia they played him on the thirtieth last Friday,
and then they had that game, the showdown against Memphis
that they got and beat down. Uh. He went for
twenty and nine and twenty eight minutes there, and then
he gets hurt uh in the game against the Sixers yesterday.

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And now we we get three weeks. All right, He's
played in twenty nine of thirty seven games. Now we
lost a couple to protocols. Right, he goes into the
league's protocols for for health and wellness. Fine, you lost
a couple of games lower back and hip, Okay, a
couple of games for a foot contusion. Stepped on uh

(23:28):
and stepped over repeatedly. And that's gonna happen. Why because
he lives in the lane, right and that and that's
part of the process that you have to go through.
The guy's of pogo stick. When things are working well, right,
quick second jump Uh to be active on the boards
that are in and around the basket. And it's so
much fun to watch. But he's already in the Anthony Davis. Hey,

(23:50):
when healthy quality Uh? In terms of star players, we
love when they're available for us to watch them perform. Uh.
The problem is you have no idea and for or
for the Pelicans right now. The money is committed and
it's the you don't want to say load management because
when you do that with him, it becomes well twofold. Right,

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depends on which impression UH and which interpretation you want
to have there. Is it about his size and just
maintaining weight uh during an activity, right, because that's one
of the concerns that you have now is if you've
got three weeks where you gotta stay off your feet
before you reevaluate it. Well, what happens You're in New
Orleans for crying out loud, I mean, bad things can happen. Man,

(24:32):
I'm thinking about beignets, and I just put on four
pounds right now, so exactly I can do some of
that chickery coffee though, So I gotta I gotta figure
out how to hook that up tomorrow. I said, chicky
chickery trickery coffee. Oh, this isn't coffee, this is lie

(24:53):
got trick. You're drinking lie of course now I'm looking
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they show you they you know, they hold your cup
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stroll is like, we're back in the old song, dude,
the stroll. Uh, and they'll they'll take care of you
in the larger area of New Jersey. As for this
with Zion Williamson, yeah, I'd love to see the guy play.
We watched the highlights each and every night he's out there.
So this is a huge loss for them and for

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fans in the NBA. One of the budding stars, all
the the expectations that he had lived up to in
the twenty nine games that he'd appeared this year, but
who knows. And as you say, maybe uh, three weeks
to a month off now keeps them healthy when they
get into the playoffs and we get to see him
works some magic there. But uh, banking on that on

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a yearly basis would be a fool's Errand yeah, I mean,
I'd love to be able to pick them, but I
just can't because I know he's going to get hurt.
Because it's what happens, you know. And and at least
at this point I can say, you know, he looked
like he was gonna be, you know, the new Greg
Oden who just couldn't stay on the court at all.
Now he showed a little bit more staying power than
I did play in sixty games last year. But when

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they needed him, you know, he wasn't you know, it
wasn't playing if you just when I needed you most. Yeah,
I haven't heard that song in a while, so I
just know. And and that's what I mean when when
you're when you're trying to count on a star who
was always injured, you just have to hope that maybe
this is the year where he's with us, and and

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it's it's it's almost like you have to look at
Zion Williamson has maybe you know, uh, he's an added
bonus to what we're doing right like we have you know,
he's one of our lynch pins. But we have to
be prepared when he can't play. We have to be
able to know that we have to be seamless when
we when we do the adjustments for him, because we
know he's going to miss time and this is what
we're doing and we can't count on him right now

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That's the whole thing is that you can't count him
and say, Okay, we'll penillly, so we're gonna run the
offense through you all the time. We're gonna do X,
Y and Z, because he's just not somebody that you
can count on being there. I would I would love
to be able to pick them more. And and this
is why I didn't have that guy didn't have the
sack to do it, because I knew this is what's
gonna happen. And hopefully he's back in three weeks, but
it could be more. It's it and maybe this is

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the year he has a big, long, uninterrupted playoff and
does it. But but you can you can't predict that.
It's it's just too hard to with him. Jason. I
think the other the other name that comes up when
we think about the NBA is you go back to
the beginning of the career of Joel Embiid, right, the
issues that he had being able to get on the court,
and then his first season when he finally got on

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the court in seventeen thirty one games twenty five minutes
a night, averaging twenty uh and about eight boards per game.
Ever since then, you're looking at sixty three, sixty one,
and he's twenty eight games played thus far this year.
If you can get him into the mid fifties and

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have a couple of outliers where it's sixty plus, I
would think that would be the most most accurate way
to try to forecast what you have going forward. And
then you just have to use those judiciously, and then
I hope that you get a little bit of the
basketball gods on your side. Twitter at how about a fresca?
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of what I'm gonna tell you. Happiest guy in the league.
That's an easy, easy Zack Zack, Zack Zack. Now, listen
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(30:42):
disco song ever MacArthur Park. Oh man. Every time we
drive by, we're downtown, we drive by MacArthur Park. It
looks so it's MacArthur Park. I go, it's melting in
the dark, and let's just start singing MacArthur Park. Mccarthur
Park is melting here it is. I just love that. Oh,

(31:04):
I just love that lot. What do you know about disco?
Oh man, dude, that was when I was like, disco
came around when I was like seven eight years old.
Think about him with a big collared shirt and that
hair that he had from you're kidding doing it, doing
the day, Yeah, doing the uh doing the big disco dances.
Oh you bet you were a big Rick D's fan too.

(31:25):
Rick D's in the Weekly Top forty. No, I was
a disco duck kind of guy. No, no, no, it
was Casey Cason. That was dear Casey. Hey man, we're
right across from the studio there. Very famous. Yeah. I
could just listen to MacArthur Park all along, Um, let's

(31:49):
have a big positive. Well, it's happy for everybody but me.
So that's how you know it's happy. Okay, good, Who
is the happiest NFL player of week seventeen? Who was
the happiest NFL player? Where it's it's not even close,
and it's something like I thought we were spending most
of the night talking about this last night, but obviously
we didn't. Uh, there is nobody happier than Gino Smith.

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He bounded off that field on Sunday talking to all
the Jets players, grabbing Mike White close and talking to him,
and grabbing Zack Wilson and holding him close and talking
to him and giving him advice about handling New York.
I'm sure all away from these blank and he blank
blank blanking Jets. He just he just stuck the dagger

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in New York. You know, all the years after he
was drafted there, all the troubles he went through. Look,
he wasn't very good when he was there, so I'm
not saying, you know he was he was uh knocked
out of New York when he shouldn't have been. No,
he was bad, but he went through a lot of
crap and and and you know how happy he was
just to sit here and say, not only have I
found a new lease on, I'm gonna get a big
contract after the season's over. I'm probably probably he'll get

(32:56):
a at least a two year deal with like fifty
million dollars guaranteed. I'm a start on a pro bowler
on year, and I get to go knock the Jets
out of the playoffs, and I get to watch them
have one of those same games where they're just where
they're just absolutely flat in a big situation for no reason.
He's got to be saying, oh, man, that's the team

(33:17):
I left all those years ago that would show up
flat for big games all the time. I mean when
I was the quarterback there, so I had I had
my own parts of those Remember I was, I was
was the final that right, I was? I was. I
was sanex to Frostberg the entire time. Unfortunately, he's this
is the same team I left where here for For

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some we thought it was gonna be a tough game.
And I bet he stood up in front of the
team the night before the game and said, listen, these
guys are gonna fold. Don't worry about it. This is
how they do it. They're going to fold. Yeah, but
it's Robert Salets new guys adds the Jets. They show
up flat all the time. Trust me, I was there.
They're going to fold. And the Jets folded. They were terrible.
They had no energy, they had no jump with everything

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to play for with a new lease on life. Because
everybody lost last week in the NFL, the chance the
Jets making the playoffs was huge when the last two games,
Hope the Page and Patriots gotta lose one of their
last two. They got the Bills coming up this week.
Guess who's gonna win that game? The Bills. But no, no, no, no, no,
we show up. We don't even compete against the Seahawks.
The game's over when it's seventeen to three, and that's it.

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And it's it's all this stuff with the with the
Jets saying, oh, we're not the same old Jets, Robert
Salez asking for receipts when they win one game, they're
talking so big when they're five and two, and then
what happens they go two and seven and they knocked
themselves out of the playoffs. They have been the same
old stop telling me you're the same old you're not

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the same old Jets, until you actually prove you're not
the same old Jets. Here they are again. Oh we're so,
We're seven and four. We're great, We're great. Yet No,
this is when it all falls apart. And of course
it happens with Geno Smith holding the dagger, saying, oh, yeah,
right here, I got the curved handle on it. Look
at the ivory shining. It's glinting in my hands. It's

(35:03):
so sharp. I'm gonna stick it in you. And Gino
Smith is the guy that sent the Jets on all
this going on. Gino Smith a backup that nobody wanted,
that could have gone anywhere, that could have solved the
Jets quarterback issues all by himself had he gone back there.
This is the guy who ends the Jet season. Uh,
the happiest guy in the NFL, clearly, Gino Smith. Yeah,

(35:24):
and you got punched in the face right away? Is
the problem food? Exactly? The twenty four yard return and
the opening kickoff by Godwin igway Buck former Northwestern Wildcat,
and then just like that, Kenneth Walker says here watch this, uh,
and then you're chasing him down after sixty yards and
what happens from there, well, uh, you get blungeoned. And

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so now Gino Smith is your worst nightmare, not just
because I gave you a bunch of his rookie cards
to point out how disastrous that was. And then he
came back and he well, he took you out once
and for all. Jasonoffs does solid get fired? Yeah, twelve
years in a row. Yeah, because he wrote a Jackie's
ass couldn't cash. I'm firing myself as a Jets fan.

(36:07):
That's gonna be. That's you're gonna steal from Ben mallor Hey,
I'm a free agent. Let's go. Zach Wilson's getting fired.
He's the Jets more NFL up right here, Fox,