January 25, 2023 • 44 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon discuss Aaron Rodgers making it blatantly clear that he will most likely be on the Jets next season, the future of the Green Bay Packers after the off season, and Jon Paul Morosi joins the guys to update the guys on the Baseball Hall Of Fame!
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Smith Show with Mike Harmon on Fox Sports Radio. Greetings,
Welcome inside, Happy Aaron Rodgers to the Jets Tuesday. No,
what you sound like the Sager when he goes now,
like when I go, hey, Steve, don't you add that
the Knicks one tonight by fifty? He was no, no, no, no,
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no no no no no no, no, no, no no,
He's going factual. I'm doing the foreheads slap with my
hand going It's that night. Can't Paul Hayman do something
that's funny? Here, Jim Cray and Tom Brady pretend to
be mad at each other for a minute. Play you, Jim,
Thanks for giving me that question. I completely expected we're
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Scott Roland Hall of Fame Day, Chris Stapleton and baby
Face to sing at the Super Bowl Day. Aaron Rodgers
is going to be on the move Jet Jet What
what I do? A baby Face is awesome? You kidding?
He was. I mean we're going back to the night.
I mean, yeah, come on, man, the peel my kind
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of girl back then. Yeah, dude, you wish you No.
Baby Face is great. He wrote like every song that
was a hit in the ninety nineties, every song the
man's career. I'm just looking at it as two thousand
and twenty three. Well, he's not a song. He's gonna
sing a song. He's not gonna do a whole concert.
I mean, he's gonna do a song. That's all he's
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gonna perform, Isn't that's a big deal. Where you're in
a room and you're proposing different artists to come up
and and baby Face gets up there that fast. It's
on the committee that that pushes through. That was a
child in the nineties, you know what. I was in
the backseat of a really cool car and yeah, this
was my inspiration. The same person who decided, oh, I
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want to make sure we went not Kate Bush song
and Stranger Things because it's it means so much to
me when I was younger, the same person. Same person
was like post Malone booked. I just wanted Baby Face
to say, yeah, what's he gonna sing America the Beautiful? Right?
Like I wa say yeah, I'll say it and then
just start an acapella and do whip appeal? You know,
I just say you know all that and let the
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devo guys come running out. Does it like me? What
is he doing? I think he's seeing whip appeal. Isn't
that a five minute song? Yes? It is better hold
kick off, He's gonna do whip a peel. Just cut
his mike, cut him off? Cut about cut to Chris Stapleton,
the bad boy of country. Let's go to him and
see what he's got for us. A bad boy of country?
Does he like how a stapler? Is that his move? Uh?
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That that move. Yes, if he was a wrestler, his
finishing move would be the staple or the staple gun,
right something where that you would something where it would
like you would have like like you would you would
like close your your head on your life like you
do like a jack knife dive where you would like
that would be the staple and that would be the
move right there. So like so like you could do
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one of those quick suplexes where you've cradled the leg
already right now, let's you've got to do a backbridge.
And and I don't know that Chris Stapleson's in the
shape that he's gonna be able to do that. Hey,
you just called him Staples, Citzens, Staples, Staples and said, yeah,
we got that Stapleton. I could set the building my tooth.
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The prosthetic is not dealing well today. That I can
put strict man inamo like I might, I might start
being more of Milton. Listen, listen, all of you. I
see what you're doing. What do you mean you you
you're all trying to get me away from Aaron Rodgers
to the Jets. Stop with that. Look the story. Look,
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we got so much football tonight but the big story
today it looks like Aaron Rodgers is going to be traded. Now,
I'll take a win on this because I predicted it
a year ago and it was I'm just gonna be
a year late. So the fact that they're predicting a
Aaron Rodgers trading, you're late. Now I'm gonna get credit
for No, you don't. I'm gonna take the wind. Eventually
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life evolves, taking everybody that's talking about you know, Eventually
this guy's gonna have a down turn in his career
and he's gonna stink. Yeah, of course he is. And
that's when he goes to the Jets. When he's been
when he's too bad for anybody else, that's when the
Jets come calling. Uh So I'll take the win because
I said it was gonna I know it's not. He's
never gonna leave, you know. Now after the reports today,
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you know he is going to be on the move. Right.
We had a couple of different insiders, Adam Schefter saying
that the Packers looking trade Aaron Rodgers. If they do,
it's not going to be to the NFC and is
strictly to the a f C. Peter King Monday, Morning
Quarterback reporting that yes, uh, the package would potentially they
would want back a couple of first round picks for
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Aaron Rodgers. And here's the caveat. He also had that
report that Woody Johnson, owner of the Jets, would quote
happily pay that price for Aaron Rodgers. Happily pay that price.
That just means Aaron Rodgers is showing up, just like
we got Brett Farve thirteen years ago, which means we're
thirteen years away from Jordan's love. So did I know
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who the Jets ter backs are now going to be
for the next fifteen to seventeen years. You're welcome. And
when Brett Farve and we got him, that's all works? Yeah,
really hoping he doesn't follow in forms footsteps and a
couple of other ways. And no, well I don't want
him on the field. He was only good for the
first Hey, he was great the first half of the season,
and then he got hurt and then it's stunk, and
then it was bad, then it was But hey, dude,
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Aaron Rodgers man and the Jet the fact that Jets
will happily pay that price, and Aaron Rodgers goes on
Pat McAfee today and says, listen, I know that the
money is going to be a thing. Uh too, potentially
because of the dead cat money. It could be ninety
million dollars for the Packers if they make a trade.
Uh he is. This is the second time he has
said I don't want money to get in the way
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of of what's going to go forward if I decided
to play football. This is the second time in the
last week he said, I don't want the money to
be an issue. So the money can be worked out,
which is what we told been telling you for a year.
You can't be traded. Look at the dead cat money.
If a guy wants to go and both sides are motivated,
they will figure it out. When when does anything happened
in sports that you can say, There's no way that
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will ever happen because the money's not gonna work. There's
nothing we have seen that. There is nothing that can't
be accomplished in sports of two sides wanted. If Aaron
Rodgers wants a trade, guess what, they'll figure out a
way to make a trade. If they don't want to
pay him that money, they'll figure out a way, right,
and it's gonna wind up in to the Jets because
the Jets can give the couple of first round picks.
It's all they're missing as a quarterback. Last week, he's
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the He's the perfect offseason fit. You take a guy
who loves being a star, and now you put him
in the number one media market in the country. He
is going to just glow with all the opportunities he's
gonna have there to be on television. He'll be on
He'll be on the NFL sets everywhere in New York.
He'll be do pregame stuff in the preseason the Jets
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that I don't need to come to this game, so
I'll be on your pregame set. For you think Aaron
Rodgers caring about any of that. He really Aaron Rodgers
always looking for what's next. He is always looking for
what's next. And next is the Jets, and next is
the Jets, and it's it's it's too perfect to not
happen if you have an owner that says, yes, let's
make it happen. We need a quarterback so desperately. Because
I got news for you, Mike Harman. Even the Aaron
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Rodgers of this year, okay, which was not a great
version of Aaron Rodgers, the worst year he's had in
the NFL in a while. Even if we had the Jets,
we had Aaron Rodgers this year, we're still playing because
that's how bad the quarterbacking was for the Jets this year.
We are still playing. We're in the a f C
Championship game. We're going why not us? And I'm just
yelling instead of actually making coherent salient points about things
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and having conversations on the air, I'm just coming out
together this weekend going that would be four hours because
we're back in the a f C Championship game. It's
gonna happen. It makes too much. Sounded sounding like that
just by the virtue of this being a rumor in
a whisper. Now the whole thing of him being traded
to the a f C, that seemed fairly obvious. So
I get getting no points for that shift. Take teams out,
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take fifteen teams out unless they were gonna grossly overpay.
The Packers aren't going to say, hey, let's put them
on a team that's gonna be so that, So that
seemed pretty obvious. But the Rogers commentary on McVie show
is just laughable. The once again. You know, I'll embracing
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being the villain, but let me cry about every which
way that I've been made out to be a villain.
Now you're not embracing it. No, that's when you go
degeneration X like last night on Raw is thirty. Let's
say suck it and you move on. Al Right. The
money thing, obviously, we've seen the salary cap and and
while we may not like the way the rams uh
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long term prospects are if they get healthy and whatever,
but manipulating the cap to load up on as many
stars as you could and banking on the fact that
once guys really need to be paid in theory the
league and everything else that's coming through the dollars and
cents flowing through and broadcast right, etcetera, that the dollars
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have have caught up and the cap has gone up
enough to absorb some of that to leave you some flexibility.
So that's the other part of it. But certainly willing,
being willing to work out a deal. Yeah, you cover
all your bases, trying to make it look like, Look,
I'm not a bad guy, I can work with you.
I gotta realize there's thirty one other teams. Now, I
don't just sit there and have goodacoons under my thumb
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like I did the last year, Dame. I can't just
be a petulant child. I may actually have to go
in like it's a real job interview and impress them
that I'm still wanting to work and don't want to
go run through the jungle. You know, in my off
season that I will come work with the young receivers
because that's what your team is going to need. Right,
You're still they're youthful guys. They're talented receivers. There no
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question you still need one more. But the idea is
that you you at least uh, you'll need somebody to
go in and work and kind of undo some of
the Zach Wilson uh and Mike White and Joe Flacco stuff. Well,
listen to that's look, and that's why it's happening. Okay,
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at the Jets need someone to come in. Right there,
they're interviewing every single person alive for an offensive cording position,
which which I'm not real thrilled about because it tells
me the Jets have no idea what no, no, no.
But but I've I've said it all along. I've said
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it with you, i said it with Buyer on the
podcast Bucky Who, and I've shouted it in the street corners.
It's it's the year of no. Well. You know sometimes
when people start asking I finally just ticked off and
I just screaming, it's like, did you get it? Did
you get it? Cut in print is the idea that
every team seems to be going out of their way
to let you know, anybody that's picked up a phone,
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gotten on a plane, or connected on a zoom call. Right, Hey,
we interviewed this guy. We've interviewed all nineteen of these people,
and you know, we've gotten five more lined up. Likewise,
the Jets are doing the same thing. Look at Indianapolis. Yeah,
we're gonna bring back at least these five guys, at
least these five guys for a second interview. Right. So,
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but that's we're in political polling and excites a fan base.
Normally I would be uh, but I'm excited about that because,
you know why, because Rogers talked to the Jets through
Pat McAfee show today when they asked him about the Jets,
and he said, I just hope the Jets bringing the
right offensive coordinator held up a sign that said Hackett
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for Zach Wilson next season. I think he's got a
lot of talent. He doesn't care about the right O
C for Zach Wilson. He's telling the Jets bringing the
right offensive coordinator. That's what I heard, and that's what
the Jets here. You may hear, oh yeah, oh see
he's like, no, no, no, I hear, bring in the
right offensive coordinator. I would I would do an interview
with Aaran Rogers. I would say, who do you think
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the right offensive coordinator is? You tell me, you you,
what's the name you want? And then the Jets are
gonna go higher that dude right there, who do you want?
Will go get him? He is communicating with the Jets.
He may as well be blinking his eyes and some
sort of Morse code by going come and get me,
Come and get me. Come and get me, Come and
get me. Aaron Rodgers exchanging one set of green for
the other, did at any point four words in a
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row or four sentences spell out Nate. I don't know.
I have to go back and look at the video.
Go back and get the transcript. I don't need the
transcript right back to me. But it's fun, silly season fodder.
We know it's a game of musical chairs, and your
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team is very well positioned. As much as it pains
the rest of our show audience to hear it is
that they have the goods by which to be able
to make a trade, and they are not beholden to
really a whole lot of monster salaries on that squad,
because that's the other thing. Rogers may have to rework
some stuff, but it's not like he's got to come
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and play for a nickel. Today was the day we
were told Aaron Rodgers is available and he's going to
be dealt. This was the day it became official, and
it worked from everybody you had that you had two
sources get the story. You think that's a coincidence. Peter
King had stuff, Adam Schefter had stuff, and Aaron Rodgers
goes on to Pat McAfee show like he does and
talks about how I don't want the money to be
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a thing. I got to decide if I want to play. Yeah,
this was the day they decided we will tell the
world Aaron Rodgers available. One other questions? Did he get
asked by McAfee and the crew, Um, how is will
affect uh, you know, how how he is with long
distance relationships because it doesn't you know, being part owner
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of the box and in the community and all that stuff. Yeah,
she'll move to me, she move to New York, all right,
she doesn't have a residence in New York already. She
may already and and she'll buy into the Jets. And
maybe that that's how it comes. If you don't go
to New York and buy the Jets that first stuff,
they're not in New York. Sure to catch live editions
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of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at
ten pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
and the I Heart Radio app. Now, Yes, we'll have
more on the Aaron Rodgers. Today was the day we
know he's going to be traded. The Jets would happily
pay the price of two first round picks. Oh my goodness.
But yeah, but who would be who would the other
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owner be to call up? Would he Johnson say? Hey?
Would he I'm going to steal your girlfriend. I'm gonna
call next Buzz Lightyear, Uh, Buzz Lightyear Space Ranger. Um?
You know. But the whole thing with the Jets is
this just no, no, no, stop. We're on the way up.
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We need a quarterback, right, it just makes sense? Yes,
do the Raiders? Do the Raiders make sense? Yeah? But
the Raiders can sit back and say, well, we could
potentially get Tom Brady and only have to pay him
twenty million dollars a year and not give up draft picks.
If if, if you're gonna have to pay for Aaron
Rodgers and give up draft picks, it's gonna be the
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most desperate team that goes out to do that, and
that's gonna be the Jets. The Jets are absolutely the
most desperate team for a quarterback. They're more desperate than
the Raiders. And all the Raiders have as Jared Stidham, right,
they are more desperate. So yeah, that's what's gonna make sense. Now,
the big question is gonna be, oh, does Aaron Rodgers
want to play for the Jets. Why wouldn't you. You
have a great defense, you have a couple of really
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good running backs, you have a couple of really good
wide receivers. Um. Yeah, you're kind of made to win
right there. It would it be your first choice. No,
But in the end, you're not gonna have that many
choices because teams that are gonna have trade for you
are gonna be the ones that maybe you're something you're
not thinking about. Oh, I'd love to be able to
go to Vegas or Pittsburgh. Uh, they might not want
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to give stuff up, so it doesn't matter. You gotta
you gotta need two people to make a trade. And
are the Raiders gonna do that when they can say, hmm,
Brady would be really interested and it's not going to
cause us that much. We could have Brady for the
next year or two, or Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers would
cost us a lot of money and two first round picks. Yeah, sorry,
we're good. Sorry, We're gonna reunite Tom Brady with Davanta
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Adams and find out somehow they went to college together
at Michigan, you know, years ago. Uh, other teams they're
not going to give it up, but the Jet that's
why it's such a big deal. When Peter King from
Money Morning Quarterback reported that the Jets would happily give
up the price because they they're they're trying to say,
we'll give that up, right, two first round picks right there.
If you're communicating through the press, because that's what's going on.
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Everybody's communicating. This is why you know today Rogers is
getting traded. You add reports from Adam Schefter, Packers want
to trade him to the a f C if they
trade him, right, But why is this getting out unless
they're thinking about it. Peter King says, prices to first
round picks, why is he also putting a the Jets
would happily make that move. This is letting everybody know
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this is the trade and if you can't give me
two first round picks, the Jets are getting and the
Jets are saying, we're ready to give those two first
round picks up. Anybody else, Sorry, it's not happening. Now.
We gotta sell Aaron Rodgers on me you work, which
should be pretty easy. The guy loves being a star.
He loves being he's a big star in Green Bay
he'll be a bigger star in New York. It's gonna happen.
They're all communicates, all a game, Mike. It's all a
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big game being played today, and the Jets are winning,
and Aaron Rodgers, well, Aaron Rodgers isn't winning because he's
gonna finish his career with the Jets, but he's going
to win the Super Bowl next year. So it's going
to wind up being Okay, this is this is it's
all funneling towards Rogers to the Jets. This is me
just saying it. Yeah, but it's also follow all the
evidence today. Follow the evidence today to the a f
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C two first round picks. The Jets will pay it.
Um Okay, it sounds to me like it's almost done.
And then Aaron Rodgers, the cherry on top of the Sunday, says, Hey,
I don't want the money to be a thing. Let's
figure out the money. I don't want the fifty million
dollars on mode and the ninety million dollar dead cap
that's due to the to the packers if I get
traded to be an issue. So let's figure out a
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way around the money. Because the thing is that the
Jets are gonna say, hey, if we don't have to,
if we gotta figure out the money, then two first
round picks isn't gonna what we want. Two first Well,
let's figure out the money then. So that's how it's
gonna go. And that's jets jets, jets, jets, jets. That
much money this early in the game, I'm saying he's
holding nothing better than a pair of face cards straight
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out of Oceans eleven. Don't want to push too hard,
too fast. I mean, the price of poker will have
to keep going up on Woody Johnson if the opening offers,
oh yeah, he'll he'll come up with a couple of
first rounders. Yeah, what else could we get out of
him when we're going all right? Because if nothing else,
other teams are just gonna want to dance and start
talking talking this up. Uh, So you might have a
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gross over pay. And you better hope that he's more
the guy that was the two time m v P.
And we saw flashes of still that Aaron Rodgers, and
he got all chesty about it last week in his
appearance with mcafeel a little less so uh in this
one right less controversy, even though he went out of
his way to dissect anything anybody had to say about
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his last appear and so I'm sure we appeared in there.
I know Gronkowski did go on down the line. It's like,
you care what everybody's saying about you, Aaron Rabbit Rabbit
ears are up, so you're trying to make it a
happier ending. I'm embracing the villain. Now you're not. You're crying,
and you took a safe spot with McAfee and his
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crew knowing they're not going to press you on anything.
So it's it's the game now of the ownership because
the a f C is the only that makes sense. Right,
You're not gonna trade him unless the package is just
grossly over the top. Right. If Carolina or one of
these other teams suddenly just says, you know what we're
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all in and then some then you'll trade them in conference,
trade them to the South, have at it so they
win the South. Uh, go go for it. But just
the idea that you limited to a FC teams, well,
then that really shrinks the pool of teams that could
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in process. Then you start looking at their available assets
as well as decisions that they have to make within
their team, because the trickle down effect with the Las
Vegas Raiders is not just hey, we could bring in Rogers. No,
they've still got to figure out what they're doing with
Josh Jacobs, who doesn't have a contract, and you're still
trying to figure out what Renfro and Waller are going
forward in terms of their contractual agreements. So that's some
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pretty big offensive pieces. Not to mention, your offensive line
still stinks, so you've got other things to fix. So
if you're Aaron Rodgers's looking at yeah, DeVante is over there,
but what else? What else you got for me? And
I really like this quote because I need to make
sure we get it in at least once tonight. The
you know, grass always greener, Roger said, no, no, no, no, no,
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the grass is always greener where you water it. I
don't mind that. He'll be a big Yeah, he'll be
a huge hit with the New York Meet with stuff
like that, and they're gonna go, yeah, okay, So well,
I don't know what that meant. But do you think
you're done? Do you think you overrated? That was kind
of folks see in a Green Bay kind of way.
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That's not gonna work in the big city. Yeah, listen,
that that was great. I don't know what. I don't
know what this uh with this? I I alowicious tea,
whatever it is you drink. But here's a thing in
the city. We drink Budweiser. Okay, that's what it is,
and sometimes Miller LIGHTE and maybe Corps light. All right,
that's what we have. I gotta ask you again again.
I said, are you done? Did you steal money from
the Jets to come here? Answer? Do you take money?
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This is my this is my introductory press conference. Yeah,
I know, it's the first question getting used to what
life is like in New York. You still haven't answered
my question. If you don't answer my question after three
times we go outside and fight. That doesn't sound right.
This is how we do it in the city. Do
we gotta go? Ask Daniel Jones what happens? When I
said him and he doesn't give me a question, ask
him what happens? You are you're gonna answer my question?
Are you done? Did you steal money from the Jets?
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I can't be more positive, I can't be more directing
this question. Who you answered his question? Rogers? That's it?
There you go, that's gonna be his opening place, just
that fast. They don't drink He's got maybe some teams
like like Smith New Yorkers are in lightweights like no, no, no,
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you think Smith still has some of that laying around
though I don't drinking Heinekins and Mickey's. Yeah, I don't
think yeah, no, no, I the heyday of Zema. How
about how about a couple of old style tall boys.
Let's go. How about a nice tall, smooth could forty five?
Every time they still make cold forty five. I don't
even do they still make it, like you still get it.
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They have light cold forty five, light, but cold thirty.
We order it online cold fifteen. It's cold light, it's
it's forty five malt liquor. You know what I want? Cold?
That's what I want. Wait, we could write to them
PO box seven three nine, Okay, Wisconsin, let's go. I can't.
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I can't send an email like we have to write
them a letter. No, I want to write them. Actually,
I'd like to order a six pack. Have you ever thought?
Have you ever thought of party radio? I have enclosed
a self addressed, damped envelope for you to write me
back and enclose my six pack of Colt forty five.
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Thank you, Jason. Yeah, I don't know, man, I don't
know how you say that like it's wrong. I don't
I don't. Ye, No, you didn't steal that mailbox. He's
gonna be a jet. That's that's how all the news
broke today. In that order, Adam Schefter, He's going to
the Anan him being a jet. That's how it goes.
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Are you believing it? It's it's happening, it's happening. No,
it's it's it's a potential to say that it's a done.
Come on here else is he going to go? Well,
you've gone through that Mr Burns trap, flo, But hey,
here foot, here's the thing. Yes, is right now? Part
of okay, it looks like the Jets. But now it's
if you want to get involved, you better get going soon.
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You gotta act fast, and you've got to come with
a strong offer. Who else is going to offer that
kind of ransom for Aaron Rodgers. You're gonna spend a
lot of money and you're going to wind up having
to pay, and you're gonna have to wind up sending
two first round draft picks. Who else is gonna do you?
Can say who else is stupid enough to do that?
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You say, who else is gonna do that? Almost Jets
do it, although they don't have their first round pick
because of the you know, last year's No like the
cults need a draft just because a bunch of rich
guys got together on a boat. They stole one of
their draft picks. Colts got a draft. Colts got a draft.
At this point, they can't the loo Mar Jackson. Oh well,
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if they trade Lamara Jackson to the Jets, then get
Aaron right out. That's fine. I'm fine with that because
they'll get the first you get Jackson, you get a
lot of nothing. You get more white in that scenario. No, no, no, no,
I'm alright with that. If hey, listen, I want Aaron Rodgers,
I'll settle for Lamar Jackson. It's you know, the things,
the things that we suffer for our art. Yes, I'll
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I'll you know what, I'll all right, I'll be okay
with Lamar. What what if Brady shows, I'll be okay.
I'll be okay. If Brady I'll be I'll be okay
for that too. It's not Zach Wilson. That's the best part.
You loved Zack Wilson, just like you love Sam Donald
and Geno Smith before and until. Turn on people so fast,
(26:34):
until I didn't have to love them anymore. That's right.
If you don't, if you don't deserve my love, I
I just walk away. I just walk away from you.
That's walk away. That's how it goes. Be sure to
catch live editions of The Jason Smith Show with Mike
Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific. Scott
Rowland is your only inductee into the Major League Baseball
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Hall of Fame, joining us now from Cooper's Town, as
he has already started stumping for David Wright for the
Hall of Fame next year because if John Paul MOROSSI,
if they let Scott Roland this year, they gotta let
David right in next year. Well, good evening. Uh, I
actually disagree. I disagree. Uh. Scott Rowland did. Of course,
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he won eight Gold Gloves, and he made seven All
Star appearances, and he won a World Series in a
Rookie of the Year. I think overall, the the the
resume is a bit different than David Wright. But we
can have that conversation. As as David writes time on
the ballot comes a little bit closer. Well, it's gonna
be next year. He had a shorter career, right, He's
he still was. He was a seven time All Star,
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so he made seven All Star teams in a lot
less time than Scott Rowland made seven All Star teams.
But he okay, he played in five hundred or so
fewer games. That's that's important. And I think when you
compare the full quality of what Land brought both in power,
elite base running, and I would say one of the best.
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And I would say admittedly Scott Roland was a better
defensive third baseman than David Right, I think that's fairly
clear statement to make. And so what we are honoring
here the best, probably the best defensive third basement of
his time, one of the best ever, in addition to
being a power hitter on the team that won the
World Series. I just I think there's a little bit
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more um in terms of the the both the resume,
the length and what he achieved in Roland's career. But
I promise you as a voter, I'll take a close
look at David Wright in November and December. Well, let
me back off to David right part of it, because
you knew Smith was coming, so you'd already done your
homework prepared for that. So that's right. I came prepared
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with factual information. That's my guy, and I knew you
would let me down. But as for the case of
Roland himself, right in the comparison to day of it, right, sure,
But what do you say to those wondering why it
takes six years for a guy to go from ten
eleven percent whatever that was, to eking out, you know,
and crossing that seventy threshold this year. It's the hardest
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Hall of Fame to get into, and it is an
impossibly high standard in many cases obviously to get up
to and rolland is someone who took time, I believe,
for a lot of voters to fully appreciate what he
achieved and and the unique combination of the power that
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he brought up the plate um, the excellent base running
that the defensive ability that was, as we already documented,
one of the best in his era, in addition to
all that he brought off the field. And there were
a lot of intangibles with him, you know there are
there are In some cases the character clause is brought
up as as something that keeps people out of the
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Hall of Fame, I think in the case of Roland,
it was something that accentuated at his resume. UM. I
spoke with people that played with him and executives that
had him on his on their teams, and they say
that he was the example for their entire organization of
how to conduct yourself. And that was the case for
multiple organizations that I heard that from. And when that
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is how you are presented and perceived within the clubhouse,
and then you make eight you make seven All Star
appearances and win eight Gold Gloves and are the Rookie
of the Year and are a key player on on
a postseason team in St. Louis and help the Reds
rebuild the organization. That is a broad Hall of Fame resume. Now,
I'm a big Hall of Fame guy. I voted for
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ten guys on this ballot. I believe that Helton belongs.
I believe Wagner belongs. I believe Gary Sheffield belongs. I
believe Jimmy Rollins belongs. I'm a big Hall guy, and UH,
for me, by that standard, Roland clearly was a Hall
of Famer, And I just think it took a lot
of time for my colleagues around the sports to come
around of the same conclusion. See, here's right. I disagree
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with the JP because if there was one other guy
who was a slam dunk Hall of Fame candidate, right
that coming in this year, Scott Rowland's not getting in.
He's not getting seventy of the vote. So he's very
fortunate that this year, because there was no other slam
dunk candidate, he's able to get in. He may not
have gotten in in any other year except for this one.
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So it takes away a little bit of the guy's
a Hall of Famer or he's not. Well, he's a
Hall of Famer because what happened this year, and and
you know, you you going down all the stuff that
he went for his entire career. I'm with you on
all that. All those are great things. But when you
I think, when you have to get down to here's
his presence in the clubhouse and here's what he did
from team with team, I think then you're you're starting
to make it trying to make an excuse for voting
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for a guy, rather than say, hey, this is pretty
obvious a guy. You should be pretty obvious a guy
goes into the Hall of Fame, well, I would I
would say this that the year that Derek Jeter went in,
Larry Walker got in on his tenth and final time
on the ballot, So that that proves that even when
you have a no doubter as Jeter was, there is
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still often space on your ballot to have someone who
took time to accrue that level of support. Uh. This,
this to me is is is a good case and
a good case study for why a this is a
hard Hall of Fame to get into and be the
different avenues that you can take rolland was someone that
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the saber metric voters liked, and then there were enough
traditional voters that saw the more of the counting stats
and the uniqueness of the gold gloves and the All
Star appearances at that position, and then what he did
on significant post season teams in St. Louis and also
in Cincinnati and saw a complete resume too. For me,
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this election is emblematic of of of how many boxes
the modern candidate has to check. You have to check
the saber metric box, you have to check the traditional box,
you have to check the free from scandal box, which
obviously Beltron was not able to do on this first
time on the ballot because of the science stealing scandal.
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Why the steroid era players most of them of course,
Um with Bonds and Clemens. They didn't make it last year,
and they were roundly shut out by the Veterans Committee
as well. So uh, this this was I think an
important outcome. I'm still a little bit baffled at the
lack of support for Jeff Kent, who I believe is
a decidedly deserving Hall of Famer, But at least this
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takes one person who deserved it in my estimation and
rolling and gives us a little bit more space next
year to consider the likes of Beltray, Utley, Mauer and yes,
David Wright. As you discussed earlier, I think the Jeff
Kent thing comes down to a likability issue. It maybe,
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uh And it's a fair question because I can't figure
out why he's not in. And I would also say
that there are new were as players in the Hall
who who did not have cordial relations with the media
and still got in. Um and and Kent should have
been the most obvious candidate of all because of his
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the reality that he has more Homers in RBIs than
any second basement. Ever, that's a fairly obvious reason to
put somebody in the Hall of Fame. Um, And his
defense was not nearly as bad as people made it
out to be. You know, I spoke this week with
Richard Realia, who one of his teammates, of course, played
short stop alongside him when Jeff was the second baseman
in San Francisco, and rich said he thought he stood
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in there and turned to double play as well as
anybody he ever played beside in the major leagues. And
so I think his defense was maligned unfairly. And I
do believe the Veterans Committee, when they take up his
case in three years, will approve him. But the point
is that should have taken that long, he's gonna be
like a Fred McGriff, who was a unanimous choice the
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first time he appeared in the Veterans Committee ballot, And candidly,
the Baseball way 's collectively we should be embarrassed at
the way McGriff was handled on our ballot because he
was a great candidate then and it's a great candidate now. Yeah,
I didn't hit any of those magic numbers that people like,
let me, let me follow up on Kent. Sorry, Jason, Uh,
just real quick. Do you do you think any of
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the very bonds stuff rubs off on him? It shouldn't, right,
but I mean that some of his numbers get inflated
because of bonds being inflated. I don't think that that
really has much of a bearing on Kent's candidacy. I mean,
to be honest, I think Kent was probably hurt by
two narratives. One the defensive narrative, which was unfair. And two.
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I do think players who played for multiple teams and
and maybe don't spend a decade with one of them, Um,
it is a little bit more challenging for them together
momentum because they don't have that one single team that's
the force and really publicizing and supporting their candidacy. Uh.
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You know, Walker of course played a few different places,
and again it's him ten years. It can take some
players a little bit more time when when in Kent's case,
I agree, I think of him as a Giant, but
he played a lot of years with the Astros, finished
his career as a Dodger. Um, there are certainly there
was a time with the Mets that there are players
that that move around a fair amount. Sheffield might be
one case. Obviously there's the um there's a link to
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having unknowingly as he said, used the cream from Balco
back in two thousand two, um as as Gary had
described it. So there's that complexity for Sheffield. But I
also think he's hurt a bit by not being that
one clear team that can run the pr campaign that
convinces people to vote for a particular candidate. No I
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figured it out, JP, I don't know, but you just
stumbled onto it. This is what you do with the
people we just talked about, David Wright, Jeff Kent, Gary Sheffield.
What's the common denominator? They are all Mets at one
time or related to a Mets, and so that's what's
happening that you got to get it. You got an
anti Met. Biased is not the keeping them out. Sheffield
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was related to Dwight. Goodness, his uncle Dwight couldn't famous
for the match. We're not get j Jason. Gary Sheffield
hit his five hundred home run with the Mets. I
know they're the Mets, but it was more fun to say.
It was more fun to say being related to Dwight.
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And so here's the Point, Okay, Sheffield, Sheffield. I voted
for Billy Wagner. I voted for and by the way,
on Wagner, And this was mentioned a bit on the
air today, But I want to make sure for our
listening audience that we all understand what an absolute Hall
of Famer Billy Wagner is should be, hopefully will be.
Billy Wagner is naturally right handed. He broke his right
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arm twice as a kid, and so we couldn't actually
throw a baseball anymore with that arm, and that's how
he learned to throw a ball left handed. He is
right handed, and he threw a ball a Hunter Miles
Hour left handed and is arguably the most dominant reliever ever.
And it's going to go to the Hall of Fame
hopefully next year. He also and I want every every
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travel ball family to think about this for a moment.
Billy Wagner, who eventually is going to go in the
Hall of Fame, was a star at Division three Fareham
College in the great state of Virginia, Okay. He and
his wife met there as athletes. His wife, Sarah, was
a basketball star. Their daughter Olivia is now a basketball
(38:33):
star at Radford. Their son is a minor league player
in the astro system, So great athletes can come from anywhere,
including Division three Fareham College. John Paul Morrossi with us
MLB Network Fox Sports Radio Insider live from Cooper's Town
as we talked and break down the Hall of Fame
Volte Alright, So so Billy Wagner, former met. Hopefully he
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gets again the ties to the Mets. They wind up
they're not getting in jp UM. Alex Rodriguez first time
around was a thirty four percent of the vote this
time around, clearly the best player on the ballot, but
he also had his own p E D issues. This
year round, thirty five percent on the ballot. For the
other guys, the bonds, we saw a little bit of
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growth from year to year. It was very low, but
then it would jump from twenty to thirty five percent
to forty um. Is it good news or bad news
for a rod that he's sitting at thirty five percent again,
because I think that's kind of bad news for him.
He didn't have any kind of jump at all. Bad news,
bad news. I look at his career as being very
(39:37):
similar to Manny's in terms of how his time in
the ballot is likely to go UM the irony, And
I was thinking about this earlier in the week. So
I I voted for bonds and clemens UH every year
that I could, because I accepted the inherent complexity of
that time and said, they were never suspended. UM. We
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don't know how many people were using at the time,
and things were complicated during that early two thousand's time period.
And so I voted for bonds and clements. UM. Interestingly,
if if a Rod had not been suspended in the
Biogenesis scandal, if he had UH, if he had not
(40:19):
been suspended under MLB's p E D policy, which happened
much later in his career, UM, then I would have
voted for him the the revelations UH in this Lena
Roberts book in in UH in his interview with Peter
Gammon's and what you talked about the Lucy goosey times, UH,
(40:39):
if that was, if that was where it had ended,
then I would have voted for a Rod today. But
it didn't end there. We we know that now, and
and that to me is is the inherent tragedy I
think of of of the way that his career is viewed,
because if he had just stopped at that point, he
would have gotten the support of me and probably many others,
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but he didn't. And unfortunately, that's that's where I stand
on him, and and it's it is sad that for
a player that great that tonight. Honestly, you know, I
was there doing segments, you know, all all day. Really,
his his candidacy doesn't really enter into my consciousness very
often because he's not that close. And it's and it's
(41:23):
an easy no for me because he was suspended. And
that's where I draw the line. And unfortunately for both
him and many there afterthoughts. When I fill out my ballot,
all right, j P. Last one, uh, with just a
couple of weeks last before pictures and catchers start to report,
I mean, how are you spending your time? Are you
perusing minor league rosters? Are you are you just watching
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college buckets and napping? Or are you fully immersed in
the NHL. That's a great question. I mean, for this,
first of all, is a World Baseball Classic year, as
you both know, UH, And so I've been working on
getting my my rosters or andized and figuring out who's
playing for whom and connecting with the managers of the
national teams. Did you know, by the way, that Jazz Chisholm,
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superstar of the Miami Marlins, is gonna be playing for
Team Great Britain at this World Baseball Classic. I'm excited
about that. Uh So I've I've been connecting with at
a great conversation with Drew Spencer, who was going to
be the manager of Team Great Britain. Uh So, we're
gonna hear there's gonna be a game played in Phoenix
between Team USA and Great Britain, which we'll hear both
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God Save the King and the Star Spangled Banner. So
that's gonna be a lot of fun. So it's a
lot of World Baseball Classic, a little bit of college
and junior hockey. Still, as you know, UM have not
watched much football, but you know that about me, I
don't really watch it. I did arrive. Yeah, I just so,
here's the thing. I got to to Upstate New York
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and there's a lot of excitement about the Bills, and
then by about the third quarter there wasn't. And so
I was following that game in the radio, I said, oh, okay,
I guess it sounds like there's not gonna be a
big celebration here, and so then I've moved on to
begin preparing my case for Scott Roland because I knew
I was gonna be asked about it by Jason Smith
and Mike Harmon. You can fall on Twitter at John Morrossie.
(43:15):
That is at John Morrossi live from Cooper's sound check
him out at MLB network here on Fox Sports Radio. Hey,
the NHL playoffs are gonna be coming up soon. He's
gonna be covering them. He's gonna be covering spring for
Michigan football. It's all over, it's all happening. Yeah. And
by the way, I heard that their uh quick story.
I understand that the quarterback of the Niners, I think
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his last name is Purty. His father is a four
baseball player. Well, there you go, you gotta you gotta
have that. I want eight hundred words on that on
on MLB dot Com. I'm gonna look up Sean Purty's core.
I don't know. I don't know the thing about his son.
I just know that he played in the game and
that I think San Francisco one. That's all I got. Hey,
(43:58):
that you'll have of an hundred and fifty words on
Seawan Purty and just and his son is Brock Purty.
And that's okay. I'll work on that. Where are you
playing college, Brock? Oh? Well, listen, he was and he
was Mr Irrelevant. He was the last pick in the draft.
He's quite relevant now it appears, Yes, he is that
(44:18):
kin out of a big there's a title, Mr Relevant.
There's a title of your column right there. I love it.
There was a good My understanding of the Niners quarterbacks
was like Montana, Young and Walsh. I knew those guys.
Not well Walts was the coach, but I got I
got you. It was one of the backups Steve. He
went right from Montana and Young to Steve. Let's cook
(44:42):
it up at Steve Bono in there while you're at it. Wow,
you gotta Steve Wals from John Paul Morows nice taking
easy money. Well, enjoy enjoy the hall, buddy,
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Smith Show with Mike Harmon on Fox Sports Radio. Greetings,
Welcome inside, Happy Aaron Rodgers to the Jets Tuesday. No,
what you sound like the Sager when he goes now,
like when I go, hey, Steve, don't you add that
the Knicks one tonight by fifty? He was no, no, no, no,
(00:44):
no no no no no no, no, no, no no,
He's going factual. I'm doing the foreheads slap with my
hand going It's that night. Can't Paul Hayman do something
that's funny? Here, Jim Cray and Tom Brady pretend to
be mad at each other for a minute. Play you, Jim,
Thanks for giving me that question. I completely expected we're
(01:06):
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Scott Roland Hall of Fame Day, Chris Stapleton and baby
Face to sing at the Super Bowl Day. Aaron Rodgers
is going to be on the move Jet Jet What
what I do? A baby Face is awesome? You kidding?
He was. I mean we're going back to the night.
I mean, yeah, come on, man, the peel my kind
(01:54):
of girl back then. Yeah, dude, you wish you No.
Baby Face is great. He wrote like every song that
was a hit in the ninety nineties, every song the
man's career. I'm just looking at it as two thousand
and twenty three. Well, he's not a song. He's gonna
sing a song. He's not gonna do a whole concert.
I mean, he's gonna do a song. That's all he's
(02:15):
gonna perform, Isn't that's a big deal. Where you're in
a room and you're proposing different artists to come up
and and baby Face gets up there that fast. It's
on the committee that that pushes through. That was a
child in the nineties, you know what. I was in
the backseat of a really cool car and yeah, this
was my inspiration. The same person who decided, oh, I
(02:37):
want to make sure we went not Kate Bush song
and Stranger Things because it's it means so much to
me when I was younger, the same person. Same person
was like post Malone booked. I just wanted Baby Face
to say, yeah, what's he gonna sing America the Beautiful? Right?
Like I wa say yeah, I'll say it and then
just start an acapella and do whip appeal? You know,
I just say you know all that and let the
(03:00):
devo guys come running out. Does it like me? What
is he doing? I think he's seeing whip appeal. Isn't
that a five minute song? Yes? It is better hold
kick off, He's gonna do whip a peel. Just cut
his mike, cut him off? Cut about cut to Chris Stapleton,
the bad boy of country. Let's go to him and
see what he's got for us. A bad boy of country?
Does he like how a stapler? Is that his move? Uh?
(03:22):
That that move. Yes, if he was a wrestler, his
finishing move would be the staple or the staple gun,
right something where that you would something where it would
like you would have like like you would you would
like close your your head on your life like you
do like a jack knife dive where you would like
that would be the staple and that would be the
move right there. So like so like you could do
(03:44):
one of those quick suplexes where you've cradled the leg
already right now, let's you've got to do a backbridge.
And and I don't know that Chris Stapleson's in the
shape that he's gonna be able to do that. Hey,
you just called him Staples, Citzens, Staples, Staples and said, yeah,
we got that Stapleton. I could set the building my tooth.
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The prosthetic is not dealing well today. That I can
put strict man inamo like I might, I might start
being more of Milton. Listen, listen, all of you. I
see what you're doing. What do you mean you you
you're all trying to get me away from Aaron Rodgers
to the Jets. Stop with that. Look the story. Look,
(04:31):
we got so much football tonight but the big story
today it looks like Aaron Rodgers is going to be traded. Now,
I'll take a win on this because I predicted it
a year ago and it was I'm just gonna be
a year late. So the fact that they're predicting a
Aaron Rodgers trading, you're late. Now I'm gonna get credit
for No, you don't. I'm gonna take the wind. Eventually
(04:52):
life evolves, taking everybody that's talking about you know, Eventually
this guy's gonna have a down turn in his career
and he's gonna stink. Yeah, of course he is. And
that's when he goes to the Jets. When he's been
when he's too bad for anybody else, that's when the
Jets come calling. Uh So I'll take the win because
I said it was gonna I know it's not. He's
never gonna leave, you know. Now after the reports today,
(05:15):
you know he is going to be on the move. Right.
We had a couple of different insiders, Adam Schefter saying
that the Packers looking trade Aaron Rodgers. If they do,
it's not going to be to the NFC and is
strictly to the a f C. Peter King Monday, Morning
Quarterback reporting that yes, uh, the package would potentially they
would want back a couple of first round picks for
(05:38):
Aaron Rodgers. And here's the caveat. He also had that
report that Woody Johnson, owner of the Jets, would quote
happily pay that price for Aaron Rodgers. Happily pay that price.
That just means Aaron Rodgers is showing up, just like
we got Brett Farve thirteen years ago, which means we're
thirteen years away from Jordan's love. So did I know
(05:59):
who the Jets ter backs are now going to be
for the next fifteen to seventeen years. You're welcome. And
when Brett Farve and we got him, that's all works? Yeah,
really hoping he doesn't follow in forms footsteps and a
couple of other ways. And no, well I don't want
him on the field. He was only good for the
first Hey, he was great the first half of the season,
and then he got hurt and then it's stunk, and
then it was bad, then it was But hey, dude,
(06:21):
Aaron Rodgers man and the Jet the fact that Jets
will happily pay that price, and Aaron Rodgers goes on
Pat McAfee today and says, listen, I know that the
money is going to be a thing. Uh too, potentially
because of the dead cat money. It could be ninety
million dollars for the Packers if they make a trade.
Uh he is. This is the second time he has
said I don't want money to get in the way
(06:42):
of of what's going to go forward if I decided
to play football. This is the second time in the
last week he said, I don't want the money to
be an issue. So the money can be worked out,
which is what we told been telling you for a year.
You can't be traded. Look at the dead cat money.
If a guy wants to go and both sides are motivated,
they will figure it out. When when does anything happened
in sports that you can say, There's no way that
(07:04):
will ever happen because the money's not gonna work. There's
nothing we have seen that. There is nothing that can't
be accomplished in sports of two sides wanted. If Aaron
Rodgers wants a trade, guess what, they'll figure out a
way to make a trade. If they don't want to
pay him that money, they'll figure out a way, right,
and it's gonna wind up in to the Jets because
the Jets can give the couple of first round picks.
It's all they're missing as a quarterback. Last week, he's
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the He's the perfect offseason fit. You take a guy
who loves being a star, and now you put him
in the number one media market in the country. He
is going to just glow with all the opportunities he's
gonna have there to be on television. He'll be on
He'll be on the NFL sets everywhere in New York.
He'll be do pregame stuff in the preseason the Jets
(07:47):
that I don't need to come to this game, so
I'll be on your pregame set. For you think Aaron
Rodgers caring about any of that. He really Aaron Rodgers
always looking for what's next. He is always looking for
what's next. And next is the Jets, and next is
the Jets, and it's it's it's too perfect to not
happen if you have an owner that says, yes, let's
make it happen. We need a quarterback so desperately. Because
I got news for you, Mike Harman. Even the Aaron
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Rodgers of this year, okay, which was not a great
version of Aaron Rodgers, the worst year he's had in
the NFL in a while. Even if we had the Jets,
we had Aaron Rodgers this year, we're still playing because
that's how bad the quarterbacking was for the Jets this year.
We are still playing. We're in the a f C
Championship game. We're going why not us? And I'm just
yelling instead of actually making coherent salient points about things
(08:32):
and having conversations on the air, I'm just coming out
together this weekend going that would be four hours because
we're back in the a f C Championship game. It's
gonna happen. It makes too much. Sounded sounding like that
just by the virtue of this being a rumor in
a whisper. Now the whole thing of him being traded
to the a f C, that seemed fairly obvious. So
I get getting no points for that shift. Take teams out,
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take fifteen teams out unless they were gonna grossly overpay.
The Packers aren't going to say, hey, let's put them
on a team that's gonna be so that, So that
seemed pretty obvious. But the Rogers commentary on McVie show
is just laughable. The once again. You know, I'll embracing
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being the villain, but let me cry about every which
way that I've been made out to be a villain.
Now you're not embracing it. No, that's when you go
degeneration X like last night on Raw is thirty. Let's
say suck it and you move on. Al Right. The
money thing, obviously, we've seen the salary cap and and
while we may not like the way the rams uh
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long term prospects are if they get healthy and whatever,
but manipulating the cap to load up on as many
stars as you could and banking on the fact that
once guys really need to be paid in theory the
league and everything else that's coming through the dollars and
cents flowing through and broadcast right, etcetera, that the dollars
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have have caught up and the cap has gone up
enough to absorb some of that to leave you some flexibility.
So that's the other part of it. But certainly willing,
being willing to work out a deal. Yeah, you cover
all your bases, trying to make it look like, Look,
I'm not a bad guy, I can work with you.
I gotta realize there's thirty one other teams. Now, I
don't just sit there and have goodacoons under my thumb
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like I did the last year, Dame. I can't just
be a petulant child. I may actually have to go
in like it's a real job interview and impress them
that I'm still wanting to work and don't want to
go run through the jungle. You know, in my off
season that I will come work with the young receivers
because that's what your team is going to need. Right,
You're still they're youthful guys. They're talented receivers. There no
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question you still need one more. But the idea is
that you you at least uh, you'll need somebody to
go in and work and kind of undo some of
the Zach Wilson uh and Mike White and Joe Flacco stuff. Well,
listen to that's look, and that's why it's happening. Okay,
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at the Jets need someone to come in. Right there,
they're interviewing every single person alive for an offensive cording position,
which which I'm not real thrilled about because it tells
me the Jets have no idea what no, no, no.
But but I've I've said it all along. I've said
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it with you, i said it with Buyer on the
podcast Bucky Who, and I've shouted it in the street corners.
It's it's the year of no. Well. You know sometimes
when people start asking I finally just ticked off and
I just screaming, it's like, did you get it? Did
you get it? Cut in print is the idea that
every team seems to be going out of their way
to let you know, anybody that's picked up a phone,
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gotten on a plane, or connected on a zoom call. Right, Hey,
we interviewed this guy. We've interviewed all nineteen of these people,
and you know, we've gotten five more lined up. Likewise,
the Jets are doing the same thing. Look at Indianapolis. Yeah,
we're gonna bring back at least these five guys, at
least these five guys for a second interview. Right. So,
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but that's we're in political polling and excites a fan base.
Normally I would be uh, but I'm excited about that because,
you know why, because Rogers talked to the Jets through
Pat McAfee show today when they asked him about the Jets,
and he said, I just hope the Jets bringing the
right offensive coordinator held up a sign that said Hackett
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for Zach Wilson next season. I think he's got a
lot of talent. He doesn't care about the right O
C for Zach Wilson. He's telling the Jets bringing the
right offensive coordinator. That's what I heard, and that's what
the Jets here. You may hear, oh yeah, oh see
he's like, no, no, no, I hear, bring in the
right offensive coordinator. I would I would do an interview
with Aaran Rogers. I would say, who do you think
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the right offensive coordinator is? You tell me, you you,
what's the name you want? And then the Jets are
gonna go higher that dude right there, who do you want?
Will go get him? He is communicating with the Jets.
He may as well be blinking his eyes and some
sort of Morse code by going come and get me,
Come and get me. Come and get me, Come and
get me. Aaron Rodgers exchanging one set of green for
the other, did at any point four words in a
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row or four sentences spell out Nate. I don't know.
I have to go back and look at the video.
Go back and get the transcript. I don't need the
transcript right back to me. But it's fun, silly season fodder.
We know it's a game of musical chairs, and your
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team is very well positioned. As much as it pains
the rest of our show audience to hear it is
that they have the goods by which to be able
to make a trade, and they are not beholden to
really a whole lot of monster salaries on that squad,
because that's the other thing. Rogers may have to rework
some stuff, but it's not like he's got to come
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and play for a nickel. Today was the day we
were told Aaron Rodgers is available and he's going to
be dealt. This was the day it became official, and
it worked from everybody you had that you had two
sources get the story. You think that's a coincidence. Peter
King had stuff, Adam Schefter had stuff, and Aaron Rodgers
goes on to Pat McAfee show like he does and
talks about how I don't want the money to be
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a thing. I got to decide if I want to play. Yeah,
this was the day they decided we will tell the
world Aaron Rodgers available. One other questions? Did he get
asked by McAfee and the crew, Um, how is will
affect uh, you know, how how he is with long
distance relationships because it doesn't you know, being part owner
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of the box and in the community and all that stuff. Yeah,
she'll move to me, she move to New York, all right,
she doesn't have a residence in New York already. She
may already and and she'll buy into the Jets. And
maybe that that's how it comes. If you don't go
to New York and buy the Jets that first stuff,
they're not in New York. Sure to catch live editions
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of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at
ten pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
and the I Heart Radio app. Now, Yes, we'll have
more on the Aaron Rodgers. Today was the day we
know he's going to be traded. The Jets would happily
pay the price of two first round picks. Oh my goodness.
But yeah, but who would be who would the other
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owner be to call up? Would he Johnson say? Hey?
Would he I'm going to steal your girlfriend. I'm gonna
call next Buzz Lightyear, Uh, Buzz Lightyear Space Ranger. Um?
You know. But the whole thing with the Jets is
this just no, no, no, stop. We're on the way up.
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We need a quarterback, right, it just makes sense? Yes,
do the Raiders? Do the Raiders make sense? Yeah? But
the Raiders can sit back and say, well, we could
potentially get Tom Brady and only have to pay him
twenty million dollars a year and not give up draft picks.
If if, if you're gonna have to pay for Aaron
Rodgers and give up draft picks, it's gonna be the
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most desperate team that goes out to do that, and
that's gonna be the Jets. The Jets are absolutely the
most desperate team for a quarterback. They're more desperate than
the Raiders. And all the Raiders have as Jared Stidham, right,
they are more desperate. So yeah, that's what's gonna make sense. Now,
the big question is gonna be, oh, does Aaron Rodgers
want to play for the Jets. Why wouldn't you. You
have a great defense, you have a couple of really
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good running backs, you have a couple of really good
wide receivers. Um. Yeah, you're kind of made to win
right there. It would it be your first choice. No,
But in the end, you're not gonna have that many
choices because teams that are gonna have trade for you
are gonna be the ones that maybe you're something you're
not thinking about. Oh, I'd love to be able to
go to Vegas or Pittsburgh. Uh, they might not want
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to give stuff up, so it doesn't matter. You gotta
you gotta need two people to make a trade. And
are the Raiders gonna do that when they can say, hmm,
Brady would be really interested and it's not going to
cause us that much. We could have Brady for the
next year or two, or Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers would
cost us a lot of money and two first round picks. Yeah, sorry,
we're good. Sorry, We're gonna reunite Tom Brady with Davanta
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Adams and find out somehow they went to college together
at Michigan, you know, years ago. Uh, other teams they're
not going to give it up, but the Jet that's
why it's such a big deal. When Peter King from
Money Morning Quarterback reported that the Jets would happily give
up the price because they they're they're trying to say,
we'll give that up, right, two first round picks right there.
If you're communicating through the press, because that's what's going on.
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Everybody's communicating. This is why you know today Rogers is
getting traded. You add reports from Adam Schefter, Packers want
to trade him to the a f C if they
trade him, right, But why is this getting out unless
they're thinking about it. Peter King says, prices to first
round picks, why is he also putting a the Jets
would happily make that move. This is letting everybody know
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this is the trade and if you can't give me
two first round picks, the Jets are getting and the
Jets are saying, we're ready to give those two first
round picks up. Anybody else, Sorry, it's not happening. Now.
We gotta sell Aaron Rodgers on me you work, which
should be pretty easy. The guy loves being a star.
He loves being he's a big star in Green Bay
he'll be a bigger star in New York. It's gonna happen.
They're all communicates, all a game, Mike. It's all a
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big game being played today, and the Jets are winning,
and Aaron Rodgers, well, Aaron Rodgers isn't winning because he's
gonna finish his career with the Jets, but he's going
to win the Super Bowl next year. So it's going
to wind up being Okay, this is this is it's
all funneling towards Rogers to the Jets. This is me
just saying it. Yeah, but it's also follow all the
evidence today. Follow the evidence today to the a f
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C two first round picks. The Jets will pay it.
Um Okay, it sounds to me like it's almost done.
And then Aaron Rodgers, the cherry on top of the Sunday, says, Hey,
I don't want the money to be a thing. Let's
figure out the money. I don't want the fifty million
dollars on mode and the ninety million dollar dead cap
that's due to the to the packers if I get
traded to be an issue. So let's figure out a
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way around the money. Because the thing is that the
Jets are gonna say, hey, if we don't have to,
if we gotta figure out the money, then two first
round picks isn't gonna what we want. Two first Well,
let's figure out the money then. So that's how it's
gonna go. And that's jets jets, jets, jets, jets. That
much money this early in the game, I'm saying he's
holding nothing better than a pair of face cards straight
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out of Oceans eleven. Don't want to push too hard,
too fast. I mean, the price of poker will have
to keep going up on Woody Johnson if the opening offers,
oh yeah, he'll he'll come up with a couple of
first rounders. Yeah, what else could we get out of
him when we're going all right? Because if nothing else,
other teams are just gonna want to dance and start
talking talking this up. Uh, So you might have a
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gross over pay. And you better hope that he's more
the guy that was the two time m v P.
And we saw flashes of still that Aaron Rodgers, and
he got all chesty about it last week in his
appearance with mcafeel a little less so uh in this
one right less controversy, even though he went out of
his way to dissect anything anybody had to say about
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his last appear and so I'm sure we appeared in there.
I know Gronkowski did go on down the line. It's like,
you care what everybody's saying about you, Aaron Rabbit Rabbit
ears are up, so you're trying to make it a
happier ending. I'm embracing the villain. Now you're not. You're crying,
and you took a safe spot with McAfee and his
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crew knowing they're not going to press you on anything.
So it's it's the game now of the ownership because
the a f C is the only that makes sense. Right,
You're not gonna trade him unless the package is just
grossly over the top. Right. If Carolina or one of
these other teams suddenly just says, you know what we're
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all in and then some then you'll trade them in conference,
trade them to the South, have at it so they
win the South. Uh, go go for it. But just
the idea that you limited to a FC teams, well,
then that really shrinks the pool of teams that could
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in process. Then you start looking at their available assets
as well as decisions that they have to make within
their team, because the trickle down effect with the Las
Vegas Raiders is not just hey, we could bring in Rogers. No,
they've still got to figure out what they're doing with
Josh Jacobs, who doesn't have a contract, and you're still
trying to figure out what Renfro and Waller are going
forward in terms of their contractual agreements. So that's some
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pretty big offensive pieces. Not to mention, your offensive line
still stinks, so you've got other things to fix. So
if you're Aaron Rodgers's looking at yeah, DeVante is over there,
but what else? What else you got for me? And
I really like this quote because I need to make
sure we get it in at least once tonight. The
you know, grass always greener, Roger said, no, no, no, no, no,
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the grass is always greener where you water it. I
don't mind that. He'll be a big Yeah, he'll be
a huge hit with the New York Meet with stuff
like that, and they're gonna go, yeah, okay, So well,
I don't know what that meant. But do you think
you're done? Do you think you overrated? That was kind
of folks see in a Green Bay kind of way.
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That's not gonna work in the big city. Yeah, listen,
that that was great. I don't know what. I don't
know what this uh with this? I I alowicious tea,
whatever it is you drink. But here's a thing in
the city. We drink Budweiser. Okay, that's what it is,
and sometimes Miller LIGHTE and maybe Corps light. All right,
that's what we have. I gotta ask you again again.
I said, are you done? Did you steal money from
the Jets to come here? Answer? Do you take money?
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This is my this is my introductory press conference. Yeah,
I know, it's the first question getting used to what
life is like in New York. You still haven't answered
my question. If you don't answer my question after three
times we go outside and fight. That doesn't sound right.
This is how we do it in the city. Do
we gotta go? Ask Daniel Jones what happens? When I
said him and he doesn't give me a question, ask
him what happens? You are you're gonna answer my question?
Are you done? Did you steal money from the Jets?
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I can't be more positive, I can't be more directing
this question. Who you answered his question? Rogers? That's it?
There you go, that's gonna be his opening place, just
that fast. They don't drink He's got maybe some teams
like like Smith New Yorkers are in lightweights like no, no, no,
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you think Smith still has some of that laying around
though I don't drinking Heinekins and Mickey's. Yeah, I don't
think yeah, no, no, I the heyday of Zema. How
about how about a couple of old style tall boys.
Let's go. How about a nice tall, smooth could forty five?
Every time they still make cold forty five. I don't
even do they still make it, like you still get it.
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They have light cold forty five, light, but cold thirty.
We order it online cold fifteen. It's cold light, it's
it's forty five malt liquor. You know what I want? Cold?
That's what I want. Wait, we could write to them
PO box seven three nine, Okay, Wisconsin, let's go. I can't.
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I can't send an email like we have to write
them a letter. No, I want to write them. Actually,
I'd like to order a six pack. Have you ever thought?
Have you ever thought of party radio? I have enclosed
a self addressed, damped envelope for you to write me
back and enclose my six pack of Colt forty five.
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Thank you, Jason. Yeah, I don't know, man, I don't
know how you say that like it's wrong. I don't
I don't. Ye, No, you didn't steal that mailbox. He's
gonna be a jet. That's that's how all the news
broke today. In that order, Adam Schefter, He's going to
the Anan him being a jet. That's how it goes.
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Are you believing it? It's it's happening, it's happening. No,
it's it's it's a potential to say that it's a done.
Come on here else is he going to go? Well,
you've gone through that Mr Burns trap, flo, But hey,
here foot, here's the thing. Yes, is right now? Part
of okay, it looks like the Jets. But now it's
if you want to get involved, you better get going soon.
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You gotta act fast, and you've got to come with
a strong offer. Who else is going to offer that
kind of ransom for Aaron Rodgers. You're gonna spend a
lot of money and you're going to wind up having
to pay, and you're gonna have to wind up sending
two first round draft picks. Who else is gonna do you?
Can say who else is stupid enough to do that?
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You say, who else is gonna do that? Almost Jets
do it, although they don't have their first round pick
because of the you know, last year's No like the
cults need a draft just because a bunch of rich
guys got together on a boat. They stole one of
their draft picks. Colts got a draft. Colts got a draft.
At this point, they can't the loo Mar Jackson. Oh well,
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if they trade Lamara Jackson to the Jets, then get
Aaron right out. That's fine. I'm fine with that because
they'll get the first you get Jackson, you get a
lot of nothing. You get more white in that scenario. No, no, no, no,
I'm alright with that. If hey, listen, I want Aaron Rodgers,
I'll settle for Lamar Jackson. It's you know, the things,
the things that we suffer for our art. Yes, I'll
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I'll you know what, I'll all right, I'll be okay
with Lamar. What what if Brady shows, I'll be okay.
I'll be okay. If Brady I'll be I'll be okay
for that too. It's not Zach Wilson. That's the best part.
You loved Zack Wilson, just like you love Sam Donald
and Geno Smith before and until. Turn on people so fast,
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until I didn't have to love them anymore. That's right.
If you don't, if you don't deserve my love, I
I just walk away. I just walk away from you.
That's walk away. That's how it goes. Be sure to
catch live editions of The Jason Smith Show with Mike
Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific. Scott
Rowland is your only inductee into the Major League Baseball
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Hall of Fame, joining us now from Cooper's Town, as
he has already started stumping for David Wright for the
Hall of Fame next year because if John Paul MOROSSI,
if they let Scott Roland this year, they gotta let
David right in next year. Well, good evening. Uh, I
actually disagree. I disagree. Uh. Scott Rowland did. Of course,
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he won eight Gold Gloves, and he made seven All
Star appearances, and he won a World Series in a
Rookie of the Year. I think overall, the the the
resume is a bit different than David Wright. But we
can have that conversation. As as David writes time on
the ballot comes a little bit closer. Well, it's gonna
be next year. He had a shorter career, right, He's
he still was. He was a seven time All Star,
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so he made seven All Star teams in a lot
less time than Scott Rowland made seven All Star teams.
But he okay, he played in five hundred or so
fewer games. That's that's important. And I think when you
compare the full quality of what Land brought both in power,
elite base running, and I would say one of the best.
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And I would say admittedly Scott Roland was a better
defensive third baseman than David Right, I think that's fairly
clear statement to make. And so what we are honoring
here the best, probably the best defensive third basement of
his time, one of the best ever, in addition to
being a power hitter on the team that won the
World Series. I just I think there's a little bit
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more um in terms of the the both the resume,
the length and what he achieved in Roland's career. But
I promise you as a voter, I'll take a close
look at David Wright in November and December. Well, let
me back off to David right part of it, because
you knew Smith was coming, so you'd already done your
homework prepared for that. So that's right. I came prepared
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with factual information. That's my guy, and I knew you
would let me down. But as for the case of
Roland himself, right in the comparison to day of it, right, sure,
But what do you say to those wondering why it
takes six years for a guy to go from ten
eleven percent whatever that was, to eking out, you know,
and crossing that seventy threshold this year. It's the hardest
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Hall of Fame to get into, and it is an
impossibly high standard in many cases obviously to get up
to and rolland is someone who took time, I believe,
for a lot of voters to fully appreciate what he
achieved and and the unique combination of the power that
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he brought up the plate um, the excellent base running
that the defensive ability that was, as we already documented,
one of the best in his era, in addition to
all that he brought off the field. And there were
a lot of intangibles with him, you know there are
there are In some cases the character clause is brought
up as as something that keeps people out of the
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Hall of Fame, I think in the case of Roland,
it was something that accentuated at his resume. UM. I
spoke with people that played with him and executives that
had him on his on their teams, and they say
that he was the example for their entire organization of
how to conduct yourself. And that was the case for
multiple organizations that I heard that from. And when that
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is how you are presented and perceived within the clubhouse,
and then you make eight you make seven All Star
appearances and win eight Gold Gloves and are the Rookie
of the Year and are a key player on on
a postseason team in St. Louis and help the Reds
rebuild the organization. That is a broad Hall of Fame resume. Now,
I'm a big Hall of Fame guy. I voted for
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ten guys on this ballot. I believe that Helton belongs.
I believe Wagner belongs. I believe Gary Sheffield belongs. I
believe Jimmy Rollins belongs. I'm a big Hall guy, and UH,
for me, by that standard, Roland clearly was a Hall
of Famer, And I just think it took a lot
of time for my colleagues around the sports to come
around of the same conclusion. See, here's right. I disagree
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with the JP because if there was one other guy
who was a slam dunk Hall of Fame candidate, right
that coming in this year, Scott Rowland's not getting in.
He's not getting seventy of the vote. So he's very
fortunate that this year, because there was no other slam
dunk candidate, he's able to get in. He may not
have gotten in in any other year except for this one.
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So it takes away a little bit of the guy's
a Hall of Famer or he's not. Well, he's a
Hall of Famer because what happened this year, and and
you know, you you going down all the stuff that
he went for his entire career. I'm with you on
all that. All those are great things. But when you
I think, when you have to get down to here's
his presence in the clubhouse and here's what he did
from team with team, I think then you're you're starting
to make it trying to make an excuse for voting
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for a guy, rather than say, hey, this is pretty
obvious a guy. You should be pretty obvious a guy
goes into the Hall of Fame, well, I would I
would say this that the year that Derek Jeter went in,
Larry Walker got in on his tenth and final time
on the ballot, So that that proves that even when
you have a no doubter as Jeter was, there is
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still often space on your ballot to have someone who
took time to accrue that level of support. Uh. This,
this to me is is is a good case and
a good case study for why a this is a
hard Hall of Fame to get into and be the
different avenues that you can take rolland was someone that
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the saber metric voters liked, and then there were enough
traditional voters that saw the more of the counting stats
and the uniqueness of the gold gloves and the All
Star appearances at that position, and then what he did
on significant post season teams in St. Louis and also
in Cincinnati and saw a complete resume too. For me,
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this election is emblematic of of of how many boxes
the modern candidate has to check. You have to check
the saber metric box, you have to check the traditional box,
you have to check the free from scandal box, which
obviously Beltron was not able to do on this first
time on the ballot because of the science stealing scandal.
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Why the steroid era players most of them of course,
Um with Bonds and Clemens. They didn't make it last year,
and they were roundly shut out by the Veterans Committee
as well. So uh, this this was I think an
important outcome. I'm still a little bit baffled at the
lack of support for Jeff Kent, who I believe is
a decidedly deserving Hall of Famer, But at least this
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takes one person who deserved it in my estimation and
rolling and gives us a little bit more space next
year to consider the likes of Beltray, Utley, Mauer and yes,
David Wright. As you discussed earlier, I think the Jeff
Kent thing comes down to a likability issue. It maybe,
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uh And it's a fair question because I can't figure
out why he's not in. And I would also say
that there are new were as players in the Hall
who who did not have cordial relations with the media
and still got in. Um and and Kent should have
been the most obvious candidate of all because of his
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the reality that he has more Homers in RBIs than
any second basement. Ever, that's a fairly obvious reason to
put somebody in the Hall of Fame. Um, And his
defense was not nearly as bad as people made it
out to be. You know, I spoke this week with
Richard Realia, who one of his teammates, of course, played
short stop alongside him when Jeff was the second baseman
in San Francisco, and rich said he thought he stood
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in there and turned to double play as well as
anybody he ever played beside in the major leagues. And
so I think his defense was maligned unfairly. And I
do believe the Veterans Committee, when they take up his
case in three years, will approve him. But the point
is that should have taken that long, he's gonna be
like a Fred McGriff, who was a unanimous choice the
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first time he appeared in the Veterans Committee ballot, And candidly,
the Baseball way 's collectively we should be embarrassed at
the way McGriff was handled on our ballot because he
was a great candidate then and it's a great candidate now. Yeah,
I didn't hit any of those magic numbers that people like,
let me, let me follow up on Kent. Sorry, Jason, Uh,
just real quick. Do you do you think any of
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the very bonds stuff rubs off on him? It shouldn't, right,
but I mean that some of his numbers get inflated
because of bonds being inflated. I don't think that that
really has much of a bearing on Kent's candidacy. I mean,
to be honest, I think Kent was probably hurt by
two narratives. One the defensive narrative, which was unfair. And two.
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I do think players who played for multiple teams and
and maybe don't spend a decade with one of them, Um,
it is a little bit more challenging for them together
momentum because they don't have that one single team that's
the force and really publicizing and supporting their candidacy. Uh.
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You know, Walker of course played a few different places,
and again it's him ten years. It can take some
players a little bit more time when when in Kent's case,
I agree, I think of him as a Giant, but
he played a lot of years with the Astros, finished
his career as a Dodger. Um, there are certainly there
was a time with the Mets that there are players
that that move around a fair amount. Sheffield might be
one case. Obviously there's the um there's a link to
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having unknowingly as he said, used the cream from Balco
back in two thousand two, um as as Gary had
described it. So there's that complexity for Sheffield. But I
also think he's hurt a bit by not being that
one clear team that can run the pr campaign that
convinces people to vote for a particular candidate. No I
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figured it out, JP, I don't know, but you just
stumbled onto it. This is what you do with the
people we just talked about, David Wright, Jeff Kent, Gary Sheffield.
What's the common denominator? They are all Mets at one
time or related to a Mets, and so that's what's
happening that you got to get it. You got an
anti Met. Biased is not the keeping them out. Sheffield
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was related to Dwight. Goodness, his uncle Dwight couldn't famous
for the match. We're not get j Jason. Gary Sheffield
hit his five hundred home run with the Mets. I
know they're the Mets, but it was more fun to say.
It was more fun to say being related to Dwight.
(37:25):
And so here's the Point, Okay, Sheffield, Sheffield. I voted
for Billy Wagner. I voted for and by the way,
on Wagner, And this was mentioned a bit on the
air today, But I want to make sure for our
listening audience that we all understand what an absolute Hall
of Famer Billy Wagner is should be, hopefully will be.
Billy Wagner is naturally right handed. He broke his right
(37:49):
arm twice as a kid, and so we couldn't actually
throw a baseball anymore with that arm, and that's how
he learned to throw a ball left handed. He is
right handed, and he threw a ball a Hunter Miles
Hour left handed and is arguably the most dominant reliever ever.
And it's going to go to the Hall of Fame
hopefully next year. He also and I want every every
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travel ball family to think about this for a moment.
Billy Wagner, who eventually is going to go in the
Hall of Fame, was a star at Division three Fareham
College in the great state of Virginia, Okay. He and
his wife met there as athletes. His wife, Sarah, was
a basketball star. Their daughter Olivia is now a basketball
(38:33):
star at Radford. Their son is a minor league player
in the astro system, So great athletes can come from anywhere,
including Division three Fareham College. John Paul Morrossi with us
MLB Network Fox Sports Radio Insider live from Cooper's Town
as we talked and break down the Hall of Fame
Volte Alright, So so Billy Wagner, former met. Hopefully he
(38:55):
gets again the ties to the Mets. They wind up
they're not getting in jp UM. Alex Rodriguez first time
around was a thirty four percent of the vote this
time around, clearly the best player on the ballot, but
he also had his own p E D issues. This
year round, thirty five percent on the ballot. For the
other guys, the bonds, we saw a little bit of
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growth from year to year. It was very low, but
then it would jump from twenty to thirty five percent
to forty um. Is it good news or bad news
for a rod that he's sitting at thirty five percent again,
because I think that's kind of bad news for him.
He didn't have any kind of jump at all. Bad news,
bad news. I look at his career as being very
(39:37):
similar to Manny's in terms of how his time in
the ballot is likely to go UM the irony, And
I was thinking about this earlier in the week. So
I I voted for bonds and clemens UH every year
that I could, because I accepted the inherent complexity of
that time and said, they were never suspended. UM. We
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don't know how many people were using at the time,
and things were complicated during that early two thousand's time period.
And so I voted for bonds and clements. UM. Interestingly,
if if a Rod had not been suspended in the
Biogenesis scandal, if he had UH, if he had not
(40:19):
been suspended under MLB's p E D policy, which happened
much later in his career, UM, then I would have
voted for him the the revelations UH in this Lena
Roberts book in in UH in his interview with Peter
Gammon's and what you talked about the Lucy goosey times, UH,
(40:39):
if that was, if that was where it had ended,
then I would have voted for a Rod today. But
it didn't end there. We we know that now, and
and that to me is is the inherent tragedy I
think of of of the way that his career is viewed,
because if he had just stopped at that point, he
would have gotten the support of me and probably many others,
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but he didn't. And unfortunately, that's that's where I stand
on him, and and it's it is sad that for
a player that great that tonight. Honestly, you know, I
was there doing segments, you know, all all day. Really,
his his candidacy doesn't really enter into my consciousness very
often because he's not that close. And it's and it's
(41:23):
an easy no for me because he was suspended. And
that's where I draw the line. And unfortunately for both
him and many there afterthoughts. When I fill out my ballot,
all right, j P. Last one, uh, with just a
couple of weeks last before pictures and catchers start to report,
I mean, how are you spending your time? Are you
perusing minor league rosters? Are you are you just watching
(41:45):
college buckets and napping? Or are you fully immersed in
the NHL. That's a great question. I mean, for this,
first of all, is a World Baseball Classic year, as
you both know, UH, And so I've been working on
getting my my rosters or andized and figuring out who's
playing for whom and connecting with the managers of the
national teams. Did you know, by the way, that Jazz Chisholm,
(42:08):
superstar of the Miami Marlins, is gonna be playing for
Team Great Britain at this World Baseball Classic. I'm excited
about that. Uh So I've I've been connecting with at
a great conversation with Drew Spencer, who was going to
be the manager of Team Great Britain. Uh So, we're
gonna hear there's gonna be a game played in Phoenix
between Team USA and Great Britain, which we'll hear both
(42:29):
God Save the King and the Star Spangled Banner. So
that's gonna be a lot of fun. So it's a
lot of World Baseball Classic, a little bit of college
and junior hockey. Still, as you know, UM have not
watched much football, but you know that about me, I
don't really watch it. I did arrive. Yeah, I just so,
here's the thing. I got to to Upstate New York
(42:51):
and there's a lot of excitement about the Bills, and
then by about the third quarter there wasn't. And so
I was following that game in the radio, I said, oh, okay,
I guess it sounds like there's not gonna be a
big celebration here, and so then I've moved on to
begin preparing my case for Scott Roland because I knew
I was gonna be asked about it by Jason Smith
and Mike Harmon. You can fall on Twitter at John Morrossie.
(43:15):
That is at John Morrossi live from Cooper's sound check
him out at MLB network here on Fox Sports Radio. Hey,
the NHL playoffs are gonna be coming up soon. He's
gonna be covering them. He's gonna be covering spring for
Michigan football. It's all over, it's all happening. Yeah. And
by the way, I heard that their uh quick story.
I understand that the quarterback of the Niners, I think
(43:37):
his last name is Purty. His father is a four
baseball player. Well, there you go, you gotta you gotta
have that. I want eight hundred words on that on
on MLB dot Com. I'm gonna look up Sean Purty's core.
I don't know. I don't know the thing about his son.
I just know that he played in the game and
that I think San Francisco one. That's all I got. Hey,
(43:58):
that you'll have of an hundred and fifty words on
Seawan Purty and just and his son is Brock Purty.
And that's okay. I'll work on that. Where are you
playing college, Brock? Oh? Well, listen, he was and he
was Mr Irrelevant. He was the last pick in the draft.
He's quite relevant now it appears, Yes, he is that
(44:18):
kin out of a big there's a title, Mr Relevant.
There's a title of your column right there. I love it.
There was a good My understanding of the Niners quarterbacks
was like Montana, Young and Walsh. I knew those guys.
Not well Walts was the coach, but I got I
got you. It was one of the backups Steve. He
went right from Montana and Young to Steve. Let's cook
(44:42):
it up at Steve Bono in there while you're at it. Wow,
you gotta Steve Wals from John Paul Morows nice taking
easy money. Well, enjoy enjoy the hall, buddy,
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