HOUR 1 – Sean Payton Should Stay in TV

Jason Smith and Mike Harmon discuss the Jets hiring of Nathaniel Hackett as their OC. They guys also talk about Sean Payton’s coaching options or whether he should go back to TV and more!

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reads Ducuane loyala Chicago story last night. Now, it was
a fraud. It was a fraud. It was part of
an afford everybody did. The guy walked on the analysis

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that that it could have been a fraud perpetrated on
all of us, but for the morning, we started to
do like we were in a movie, suspend disbelief and
enjoy the multiverse. Well, it still doesn't matter. It still happened,
Like the guy still walked on the court. Somebody came,
It's not like the game was part of it, like, okay,
this part in the second half and it's gonna walk on.

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I mean that might have been blue chips too. I mean,
I don't know. I mean that part of it was legit,
like it's you know, the game. The game was going
on when it happened, So there was that. But you know,
but the the uber eats McDonald's thon boy, and now
it turns out that was no just part of a
bit trying to gain attention. That's what it all was about.

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Nothing else. Free advertising. I'll tell you, man, that happens.
That happens. But well, what what was it? The lou
Reid line believe half half of what you see and
none of what you hear exactly. I mean, obviously he
stole that from somewhere else, but I'll credit him off
the New York album for the purposes of this conversation.

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Oh hey, and speaking of New York York, well you
think I'm gonna zag right now? In overtime? After blowing
a huge lead in the final six minutes of regulation,
the Knicks now lead the Celtics with twenty eight seconds
left to go, one sixteen to one fifteen. The Celtics

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scored the first five points of overtime. Nicks, of now
scored the last six. So what could be a big
defining win by the Knicks is R J. Barrett just sinks, Yeah,
it's gonna wind up being some kind of really devastating loss,
where like Julius Randall, you know, throws the ball away
in the final four seconds and there's a dunk and
and the Celtics are gonna win. I mean, I'm I'm

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glad that that's how it's gonna end. But as you
like to say in my car in the show, is
right now, we're speaking right now, and right now the
Knicks had the lead with twenty five seconds left to go. Well,
that's right, they're they're currently in the television time out
and we're watching this unfold. The last minute and a
half prior to that shot being made was what was terrible.
And your guy Grimes stop shooting. This is where Steph

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Curry would have thrown him mouthpiece and uncorked another three
point shot, one of six on the night from three uh.
And they finally on the after a Celtics possession, get
it back swinging out to Barrett who's standing all by himself,
and it's like, he's not gonna miss this is he
He's not gonna miss this is uh. And he drains
it and started he been at the crowd. It was

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funny and I was like, hey, you need to get
back on defense now. It's like, oh wait, then call
the time out. I can daw some more. Defense is overrated.
I just want to come seven. My guy takes That's
what we found. Now, just now complain about the shots
your guys takes on takes on offense. You don't need
to worry about defense anymore. Just complain about that. That's
all you need is a good thing. You're not worrying

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about defense. Because that took no time at all for
another television time out. After Jalen Brown Boy to take
four seconds, the Celtics take off the shot clock. Uh.
You know, you know, look, you're trying to get a
two for one, but really a twenty eight seconds you're
not going to get a two for one. Um, but
he does go in for the lay up. The Celtics

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have the lead over the Knicks one seventeen one sixteen
uh five seconds left to go this game and the
time out. We'll catch updated on that coming up in
a few minutes. But even if the Knicks lose, even
if they look, even if they heartbreakingly lose, even if
they lose because Jalen Brunson just turns and hands the
ball to Jason Tatum for a dunk, because you know,
I feel like it, I don't care because after what

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happened today, the Jets are getting Aaron Rodgers. It's even
I've been telling you this, Mike, I've been telling you,
and all you have to do is follow the story.
You don't need to be Ben wa Blanc to figure
out what's going on with Aaron Rodgers and the Jets.
After today, it's even more concerned, it's even more assuredly
they're going to get him. Right. Look, we went, we went,

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we went through this. The Jets higher Nathaniel Hackett as
their o C. Today. I know, I know, I'm I'm
blowing past the part we laugh about how horrible a
head coach he was and realize he's a pretty good
offensive coordinator. He's an Rogers Aaron Rodgers offense. Yeah, he's
not gonna be the one making the decision to say, hey,
let's stop right here and kick a field goal from
sixty three yards out. You sure, man, Yeah, let's kick

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it right here. And we've seen we've seen that he
abdicates any responsibility in terms of fighting to stay on
a field or kick a field goal. Let's let's get
some more. No, no good, Just just kick it from here.
We're fine, Just kick it from here. We're all good.
I mean, I might seriously so you know, no, I
don't have to worry about that. I don't worry. But
he's a he's a pretty good o C. Right. You
saw what he's done with quarterbacks, what he did with Rogers.

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Is he the best play caller? No, that you know,
he's probably the middle of the pack play caller. But
certainly his systems have all done pretty well, and and
teams have done pretty well, and and he's in here now.
But more importantly, he is Aaron Rodgers guy. And I'm
gonna take you back to Tuesday when Aaron Rodgers one
Pat McAfee show. When Tuesday was the day we knew

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Aaron Rodgers getting traded because there were numerous reports from
different NFL insiders saying Aaron Rodgers will go to the
a f C if the Packers trade him. Packers want
to first round picks, the Jets will pay that price.
Aaron Rodgers goes on Pat McAfee show and says, hey,
I'll rework my deal to make it happen. And then
he also said this when it came to a question

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about the Jets, and this was just about Zack Wilson. Hey,
what do you think the Jets should do for Zack Wilson?
How do you think they they should later really nicely? Right?
You know what do you think? Yeah, because you know,
Pat McAfee's just asking this out of the blue, right,
So he says, you know, wait, how what do you
think the Jets should do there over there in New York?
And this was Aaron Rodgers response, Um, I hope that

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you know that whoever they decide to to go with
at coordinator can come in and h and work with
him and and UH kind of break down a lot
of the fundamentals for him, and uh, get him planned
on time, because I think he's talented enough to have
a long career. See you heard, Oh well, okay, that's
a good advice for for Zack Wilson. Know what I

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heard was bringing the right guy at coordinator? Right. Why
is he talking about the coordinator spot? Why is he
not just saying, hey, just make sure that the kid
has what he needs to go forward in this And
I've seen a lot of talent from No. No, I
hope they bring the right guy in a coordinator. Now
we can't stop right there because that's tampering. So he's
got a finish by saying the right coordinator for Zack Wilson.

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But he he's talking about I hope they hire the
right coordinator. And after he says that, what happens two
days later the Jets hire his old guy, Aaron Rodgers
is coming to the Jets. It's all happening. Man. He's
traded one set of green for the other, and then
in twelve years we're gonna get Jordan's love. This is
how it goes from far to Rogers to love. This

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is what we're getting. No, it's a it's a brilliant
strategy and obviously it's laid up just like Jim Gray
laid up the you know, Scratchy went out of his
way to say, hey, Tom, you got your plans? Say yet?
And the acting. I mean, look, he's gonna be an
E D for Brady, so he's really testing out those
acting chops. So he did that a little bit there

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with Aaron Rodgers. Sure it's not so subtle messages to anything,
and this one specifically the Jets, but uh, in general,
you know, you gotta have the infrastructure and and the
and the right guys in place for this to work.
Obviously previous experience and understanding, uh what to top ten

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offenses with Rogers of course the m v p uh campaign, uh,
and then going back to Jacksonville, so you were able
to do it in Jacksonville. So you've had success as
a coordinator. We we've talked about this for as long
as we've been on air, Jason, the number of guys
in the in the National Football League that are fantastic

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coordinators maybe okay or slightly above average head coaches. I
think of Wade Phillips because people think of Wade Phillips
as a terrible head coach. Go back and look at it.
What his record was overall? No, he's very average. No,
he's completely right. But he's not. He's not some slug
like like many would have you believe we had Wade
Phillips is our head goes like, no, but he's a

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better coordinator. Right. It's like that old old commercial that
remember that show Happily ever After, the married with children knockoff?
Oh yeah that was Brad Garrett, right, well, I know
it was, Well it was Nicky Cox and uh the
guy Unhappily ever After. Yeah that's and she's the ex

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wife of the new Lakers owner, right right, right, got it? Okay,
But anyway, so he he did a series of commercials
where he was shilling for Miracle Whip. So he was all, hey,
I make a great detective, but I make a better sandwich.
Same thing here. Hey, you know you make a good
head coach. You're okay, but you make a better coordinator
and in some cases great coordinators and hack It has

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proven that. So anybody going out of their way to
try to slam this higher, he's not the head coach.
He's not the coach in waiting. It's a guy coming
in to try to push this team that is already
pretty sound at most positions to that next level. And
if it helps to connect the dots and knockdown dominoes

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or roll out of red carpet to bring Aaron Rodgers
to town, then damn it, that's what they're gonna do.
They're still not making the playoffs. Okay. First of all,
let me just say this Miracle Whip is terrible. All right,
there's no there's no about it. I really wanted Miracle
Whip to be good. No, dude, Miracle Whip is awful.
Miracle Whip is I can't when when this came out,

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I'm like, oh, it's gonna be another mayonnaise. And you
know me, I love mayonaise. Man. I'm like, oh man,
we have another mayonaise. We got alternate manis and it
just tastes like bad mayonnaise. I'm like, oh this is
this is wow. Okay, so that's bad. But secondly, yeah,
there's the when you talk about coaches who are who
are great, who are averaging with this, you have to

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understand when you talk about the truly bad, where the
truly bad are right, and and and Nathaniel Hackett was
truly bad as a head coach, but as a coordinator
he was pretty good. He's better than no. He does again,
as long as he's not involved in in in in TI,
in time management at all, I'm gonna be fine. And
he's good. Look, he's a veteran guy. He knows what

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he wants there. The Jets said today all day you
said we're bringing in a veteran quarterback. Robert Salis at
it like it's like, okay, now I feel okay, you know,
not having to say really great things about Zach Wilson
because the season is over. Uh, you know, we're we're
getting a veteran quarterback. We're bringing a veteran and we're
bringing a guy, and we're bringing a guy in, right,
do you think that Robert Sala again about right now?
Aaron Rodgers isn't following along with this script of Adam Schefter,

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Peter King, Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers again today and now
Robert Salo, Oh yeah, we're bringing in a veteran quarterback.
Let me follow it. It's it's it's going to happen,
and Nathaniel Hackett is going to be fine. I'm telling
you that guy who got that Super Bowl fifty eight
Jets logo tattoo is gonna be the smartest guy in
the world next year. Because if that happens, if the

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Jets get Aaron Rodgers, the Jets are consol. They don't
need Aaron Rodgers to be thirty nine touchdowns and four picks.
They don't need I just you know what if you
said to me, we'll get the Aaron Rodgers from this
year with the Jets great and we're going to the
super Bowl because we're gonna bring back the best young
running back in the game. It's gonna be healthy, and
we have a great defense. We got weapons on offense,
we got We're gonna have the offensive and defensive rookies

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of the year in the NFL. He he's not gonna win, Brookie.
That's if he were able to win the year. Why
can't Breese hallwin then if brockert why final cut Okay
doesn't matter, but brock Perty meant well, got to put
brock Bertie on. We're still playing well, he's a quarterback. Yeah.

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Breese Halls. Breese Halls two campaign is a distant memory,
except for wistful self loathing Jets fans wondering what could
have been. I spent all I'm telling you, when I
watched him trend today, I'm going and I saw that
the report was that he's ahead of schedule in his
rehab ten minutes. But isn't that always the report? Well, well,

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with the Jets, it could be, oh, hey, we have
no idea where the guy is. We haven't talked to
him in months. He wants a trade. Okay, so realize
that's what that's the Mexico Like a z Elliott We
we can't we can't find the guy. So to have
him say I'm ahead of schedule, all right, that's awesome.
I spent ten minutes just watching his highlights from this season.
I got so bleep and excited. I can't even tell it.

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That's so excited watching what they're gonna get him back
next year and we're going we're gonna have Aaron Rodgers
and we're going to the super Bowl. And it's that simple. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's that simple. But Frostburg, I do have one question
for you, very important question. How did the Nick Celtics
game end? I I told you we were doing a

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show and I saw made free throws by the never
feeling you had it on your commodore, whatever you got
going on. I missed that computer. Was the final score
one one seventeen and the final score. I just saw
him talking to Julius Randall, So I assume you one.
Oh okay, alright, very good? Yeah, oh oh yeah, there
it is. Yeah. Well they were gonna say, hey, Julius,
you had a great game, but what the hell happened? Yeah,

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it's a battle of free throws at the end, and
Jalen Brown misses two that could have given them something
goud to give him the lead with seven seconds left
to go. Instead, the Knicks get the rebound, they hit
their free throws, Jayson Tatum misses an off Allen's far
out three near the buzzer, and the Knicks best team
in the Eastern Conference, which now means the Knicks are

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the best team in the Eastern Conference. Transitive properties. It's coming,
it's coming up. It's all Knicks, it's all. This is
as good as it gets for the Jets of the
Knicks right now. This is as good as it gets
for the winter sports teams right January. Should we take
some calls from ecstatic Knicks fans, Hey, what are you

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happier about here? Aaron Rodger? Did the Jets or the
Knicks win? Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox? If
you curse, I'll come kick your ass. I'll find you.
We're not gonna sell your identity to anybody as far
as you know, all right, so don't worry about that.
When you call us, you're all good. Uh So, there
you go, Get ready, Aaron Rodgers to the Jets. It's
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a TV, and more all your protection in one place.
Bundle and save at Progressive dot Com. Well, yes, maybe
the NBA Game of the Year. I don't know that
there's been a better game than what we just saw
Between then, about the collapse when you gave up seventy
to the guy that's playing now, I was on vacation.
That didn't happen. It didn't count. I was gone that week.

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I was on vacation. It was Christmas week. Anything that
happens Christmas week doesn't count the sporting calendar because everybody's
on vacation. It doesn't matter. No, it didn't happen. It
didn't happen. I was here. It counted. Well. Also, that
was we're now three, so I say, biggest game of
the year. Okay, see what I did, See what I

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did this, and I did there. That's like just your opinion. Man,
you may never see a better NBA game the rest
of your life than what we saw with the Knicks
and the Celtic. That's just asinine. Uh. It ended, it
ended kind of just watch Da Lillard. It was put
up a monster game. We've seen Lebron, you know, run
the table and at four plus four twenty give you

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that forty point effort against the Clippers, and then look,
you'd rather have been anywhere else in the world because
of that video, that that picture of him getting out
looking so forlorn. They've taken away eight points, so he
doesn't have a forty point game on both counts. Jamian
Lillard's game last night got downgraded from a sixty point
game to a thirty eight points game. Was so bad

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tonight that it was brought to you by uber eats. Wait,
real uber eats or fake uberio floor somebody printing their
own stickers that look like uber eats, but it actually
redirects you to a website that is not safe for work.
You know the thing is, and you know, you know
what the lasting thing coming out of the story is

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gonna be yes is tie. It's gonna play that drop
for the next nine years. Like there's drops he's been
playing for like nine years here on the show, and
he's gonna play that drop for the next nine years.
He's like, I don't care about that stuff. I don't
care that the guy going on the floor in the
Duquene game, it was a whole set up and all
that I got the drop of a lifetime on the floor.

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But that drop, out of context, means nothing and has
no connection to that guy. And whether that the veracity
of that entire delivery process. Do you think it's really
just a good I say something like, hey, coming up next,
we got a big story out of out of out
of the NFL. We got a quarterback who's retiring after

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winning seven Super Bowls and and T will play the
Cleveland drop. It doesn't doesn't make any sense. It doesn't
matter you look, man, it's it's tysert world and we're
just living in it. Didn't get fooled for the Oh look,
look the uber each story from last night that we
spent a lot of time on. Just say, you've never

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been so sure of anything in your entire life. What
are you talking about? It was a legiti you knew,
you said, you know, I knew. I knew. The guy
who walked on the court with McDonald's was doing it
as a bit now that he still disrupted the game,
that had the call time out, and all those things
had happened, but it turned out to non. Hey I
got I got eats for somebody. Still the guy everything

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we did last the guy brought McDonald's for somebody. That's
why a guy brought McDonald's to It's still a very
important story for a number of aspects. Number one, uh,
that that might be possible. Who knows if you have
as long as you have a ticket to the game,
which I got to imagine it wasn't a sellout, all right,
extra eight bucks for a ticket and my sandwich, So

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you got that. The second is, you know, the security
protocols are absolute crap. This guy just straight up. So
if nothing else, we learned something. Perhaps if we're at Duquane, Okay,
they have the Seahawks security guy at the door. Okay,
come on, come on in. It's all good, it's all good.

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His life depended on it. Uh So while the Knicks
victory over the Celtics, breathless as we may be on uh,
you know, I'll give you this Bowl prediction right now,
Sean Payton is going to be in the broadcast booth
another year. We mentioned this last night, We got into

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it very briefly, and then today it becomes a big story. Surprise,
right is that boy we talked about this last night.
Sean Payton just doesn't seem to have any momentum going
forward at any of the head coaching jobs where wherever
he was interviewing. We watched Carolina hiring Frank Wright today.
They actually spoke to Sean Payton very early in this situation.

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So you know, now the openings are down to Houston, Denver, Arizona, Indianapolis,
who never talked to Sean Payton. So it's Houston, Denver
in Arizona. And then we get this today from Mark Maski,
who if you follow on Twitter. He's an NFL reporter
for the Washington Post and he put this out after
the Panthers wound up hiring Frank Reich is their new

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head coach. He said that, uh, you know, according to
according to reports what we said, Well, now it's out.
It's out for Sean Payton. He's not going to be
the head coach for the Carolina Panthers. And he said
there was an issue with Payton's interview with the Broncos.
He likes the idea of coaching Russell Wilson and having
that defense, but fears a power struggle with a member
of the ownership group. This is Mark mask the NFL

(21:38):
insider for the Washington Post. Sean Payton had to quote
tweet that and say zero truth to this. We had
a great visit and Broncos ownership was fantastic. Uh. You
couple this with the headline that that looks like the
Broncos moving towards Damiko Ryan's to be there their new
head coach. And now, um, where is he gonna end up?
It's like Sean Payton now has to take Arizona or nothing, right,

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Like it's it's Arizona or Houston. Right, That's what it is.
It's Arizona, Houston or nothing. And are these jobs you
really want? Like he's gone from being the most sought
after guy and people are gonna pay whatever they can
to go get him. And now I feel like he's
gonna pull out and just staying broadcasting one more year
because he didn't. He didn't come out and say I'm
ready to get back into coaching. To have to sit
here and choose between Arizona, where you've got an injured

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quarterback that's gonna take into next season, and starting over
with the Houston Texans. He had stars in his eyes.
Where it's gonna be Dallas, it's gonna be Miami, it's
gonna be somewhere big and suddenly, now hey it's the
desert or you you can try to start things all
over in Houston. Um, he's gonna slowly pull back. I
wouldn't be surprised he pulls his name out of contention, saying,

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you know what, this is not my year. I'm gonna
sit it one more year because he will still be
a hot candidate next year. The job he really wanted,
which you know was Cowboys head coach, is not happening.
Mike McCarthy is staying, and you know they're they're keeping
dan Quinn. Today's now maybe you think their succession plan
is in place. Mc arthy to dan Quinn, who's not
interviewing fread coaching jobs anymore. But the jobs Peyton thought

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he was gonna get her just not there. And and
well maybe he was intrigued by the Broncos, but now
you have different opinions too, how his interview went and
how he felt about it, and is he trying to
pull a power playing where the Broncos taken it back
by it? Really, he's gonna be in the broadcast booth
and he's gonna try to hit it again in the
next season with the next offseason where hopefully things get better,

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there's bigger openings and maybe everything softens for teams going
out to get him. That can give because I'll tell
you what, the trade compensation has gotta be a big
deal when the same say, two first round picks as
good as Sean Payton is, that's a tough thing. I mean,
right now, teams don't want to give up to number
one picks for a quarterback. You're talking about should the
Jets give up two for Aaron Rodgers. This guy is

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a Hall of Famer that when two m v p
s before. He had a tougher year this year. So
if you're talking about teams that it might be questioning
doing that, giving up two first round picks for a
head coach when really he's worth it. But you still
see people backing off of it. Now. Man, this just
doesn't seem like it's the time for Sean Payton. And
if he takes a job, he's taking it just to
take it. So stay in broadcasting one more year. You'll

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still be a hot candidate coming out of this year
and get back into it next season. It's funny, jas
because as the the whole coaching carousel started to spin
and we were getting down towards those final weeks of
the regular season, we talked about this very topic and
what was it all about Dallas and the Chargers and
then the wing in a prayer if McDaniel were suddenly

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relieved of his duties. When that started being rumored in
week eighteen, Right, Suddenly there was this uncertainty, uh, going
into the playoffs of whether he'd retain his job. Not
that you gave it much of a percentage chance, but
there was at least a little whisper and rumor conjecture
out there the rest of the jobs. And this is

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always the case when a coach gets fired, or I
shouldn't say always most of the time. It's the case
case when when a coach gets fired that there are
that's fraught with problems. You're not turnkeys solution where hey,
you bring in one piece or you are the missing
piece in it, and it and it flips into something great.

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With Arizona, who knows what the deal is? What? What's
reality with Kyler Murray? What is he about in terms
of his work, ethic, communications, whatever? We We've had nobody
defend him and he, oh, yeah, he's coming off a
monster injury. So he's not available to you for three
for the at least half the season by normal timelines,

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unless all of a sudden we get that report he's
progressing so well. But Houston, do you want to go
work for that owner and the way they've run things
these last couple of years. No, your best player in
terms of your offense, Damian Pierce, you know, notwithstanding Brandon
Cooks was just like, I'm in Operation shutdown. This sucks.

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I'm done with this, right, And that was in the middle,
Like he ended up putting up a couple of games
at the end of the year, long after fantasy owners
who had drafted him, expecting them to just wing it
up had long been been eliminated from everything. But it's
just the idea of just go around Carolina. What were
they gonna have to give up? What was temper legitimately
gonna have to give up to the Saints to keep

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Sean Payton in the division? Whatever the two first rounds
plus what right, what's what's the rest of that package
got to be? And just go on down the line.
Like none of the jobs were turnkeys solutions except for
the roster built by the Chargers. And yes, I I
give a lot of credit to Talasco. They need to
figure out what the hell is going on with the

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training staff. But the selection of the players has been
pretty good. And then you have Miami with a lot
of talent on both sides of the ball. Think of
the fun Peyton would have with those two wide receivers
and those former San Francisco forty Niners running backs in
the in the backfield there with Wilson and once most
it's healthy again. You've got a lot of fun whoever

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your quarterback is. But without those jobs or Dallas with
the you know, Jerry Jones always covetous, but now evidently
he likes Mike McCarthy to be there as long as
Tom Landry and the hat right, those are the only
three jobs that made any any sense to leave the
booth and sitting on the couch and enjoying going undefeated.
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at Progressive dot Com. Well, Steve de Seger brought us
the news a few moments ago. An absolute legend in
college basketball has left us. Billy Packer has passed away
at the age of eighty two. His son putting a
message on social media, uh little bit ago, letting everybody
know what happened. And already you're seeing timelines on Twitter

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being flooded with all great moments from n c A
tournament history, and you're gonna see a million of them
on on there tonight. Like I've seen stuff from the
late seventies and I've seen him announcing a Steph Curry
game from Davidson when they had their final four run
thirteen years ago. A year's gonna be a million highlights
on here, and they're all going to be announced by

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Billy Packer, the guy at a thirty five year run.
He was the soundtrack of the n c A Tournament.
And I mean, really, you go onto anything he's like,
that's like forty five different games I just saw and
Billy Packers on the call for all of them, every
single one of them. You're getting Billy Packer. That's some
kind of career. Yeah, I mean, I think about it,

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and I was trying to get with Frostburg to to
figure out if if I'm remembering correctly. Wasn't he a
guest with us at some point something? Yeah, I want
to say we did in our infancy here Sports Radio's buddy.
We've been on the air nine years. But I'm just saying,
like we we we've had a lot of legends across

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our paths during our time here. Uh. But you know,
he's a guy that his style, like like every broadcast
or radio host whatever, it wasn't for everybody. He would
try to do the teaching and and correction and all right,
what do you need? And and the and and really
breaking it down to brass taxes, the cheerleading thing. Yeah,

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he was. We did. We had Billy Packer. Okay, he
really didn't like Jason. There's like that's okay, there's lots
of things Billy Packer didn't like. But thinking back and
it's like, all right, whatever, the topic was one of
those alright, we jawed at each other a bit and
it got elevated and then by the end of it
it was like, wow, that was fun, and he wished
just well and off he went into the Okay, but

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but just the the idea of you know, he was
a guy that he wore it on his sleeve. You
either liked or he didn't. And and he seemed to
one way or another. Right, he he was just gonna
talk about his love for the game and playing the
game as he saw it the right way. Uh. Language
got him in trouble at times, even though uh they

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was well maybe some of the beginnings of folks really
just trying to read into what guys were saying as
opposed to just sall right. Oh yeah he would Yeah.
I mean he had I mean, he had his He
was no shrinking violet like. He got in trouble. I remember,
for when when talking about something with the n C
terment where he said like, uh, women are gonna tell
us how to run the n C terms like whoa. Now.
He always apologized because he was someone that I that

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always would sometimes talk before he thought, and it's like, dude,
don't don't say well and you had I mean the
most famous was the Allen Iverson right and and describing
you know, oh yeah, I got a lot of trouble
for that. Todell fired off on Monday Night Football yet right,
but in the end, you know, you had John Thompson
and Allen Iverson were like wait what Yeah, they said

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the kid he's he's yeah, he's not racist. Stop their
conversations over it's like, wow, okay, but he's one of
those guys. I mean he was on air for over
thirty years, he was, and he would share on CBS
for over what twenty seven years? Whatever the math was
on that. So, I mean he was a staple and
you can't tell college basketball's history without him with a

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seat at the table. He's a staple on our show
during March. I mean, Jason can't do one Shining Moment
without his name being in it. No, I can't. I
always say jim Nance, Billy Packer, Dwayne Ballan Lion, Will
b n Venue, Jeanie's Alaska. How to give all the
names when we do one? You know, we should do
that tonight, and we should do that in homage that
we should do one shining moment. Play that a lot tonight.
We should do that in Honora, But we should do

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that tonight. Why not? Uh? You know the thing about
him is that he was the first. Normally, when broadcasters
do college sports, they refrained from being too critical because well,
they're kids, after all, and it's like, dude, these are
kids that are now coming in with five million dollar
n I L deals. Okay, I think you could be
critical of him. He didn't care. He was like, yeah, hey,

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this is this guy should have been doing this, this
guy's been this guy's he'd be playing better. This was bad.
That's a bad pass. That was this that that's a
bad Okay, yeah, you know he's kind of calling it
like it wasn't and his style wasn't for everybody. But
but it made him stand out because he called a
game like you would get a professional game called in
the NBA or the NFL, where you're not afraid to
call people out when they make a bad player, but

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you need to hit more having a bad game. That
was Billy Packer. H So again, Billy Packer rest in peace,
passing away at the age of eighty two. We'll have
more on remembering this legend coming up in a few minutes,
but also we get into a big story out of
the NFL where one coach says, I'm staying what does
that mean? We'll tell you next right here. This is
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