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February 14, 2023 • 44 mins

Jason Smith and Mike Harmon look back on the biggest moments and storylines of Super Bowl 57. The guys debate if the controversial penalty in the closing minutes should have been called. Jason explains why Andy Reid and Eric Bieniemy are the real Super Bowl MVPs. Looks like another coach needs to attend Jason's School of Clock Management. Plus, NFL Insider Jason La Canfora joins the guys to reflect on the big game!

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(00:22):
Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon on Fox Sports Radio.
Well here we are, day after the Super Bowl. We
have so much content to get to, so many things
to break down the game, things you haven't heard about
all day. But look, clearly, there's one story right now,
and it's the Knicks are now the Kings of New

(00:43):
York again, sumping the Brooklyn Nets forty from Jalen Brunson.
The Nicks are the King. Josh Hart's got twenty seven
and twenty five minutes. Oh here we come. Do they
get to call themselves the Nets the rest of the season?
Why wouldn't they call themselves something else? What? What the what?
Would you everything that made you excited about the Nets

(01:04):
or perhaps even intrigued a little bit about what they
might be even if you were gonna dismiss it, saying
it ultimately wasn't gonna work. They've all been jettison away
one after another saying hey, here's Ben Simmons. I don't
I don't really care. Look, I don't care how the
Knicks have become the kings of New York and guy,
I just care that they're they're there at everything fell

(01:25):
around them. No, no, it's just more just the nets are.
I don't care how it happened. That's like, it's funny
because you and I before the show, Rob Parker here
doing the odd couple, he and Chris Brussard ahead of us,
and so Rob's in the studio, So you and I
set up residents in the back, chatting up the show
a little bit, and and we go to turn on
and me a action, and I had choices on the screen.

(01:48):
There's the Knicks Nets game, or I can watch the
Magic and the Bulls, And the Bulls didn't make any
big moves at the deadline, and they still stink the
high heavens like the Stewart and some of the stuff
that's left rotting in the third level. Wow, okay, And
I had not because I was being extraordinarily kind though

(02:10):
I am. I said, let's put on the knicks. I
didn't say anything about the nets. I just we'll watch Brunson.
Let's see what he does. That's where we're at with
this net squad. How good is he? Other than saying,
all right for two hours, what's the over under on
the number of shots Ben Simmons gonna take? How good
is He's so good? He's so good that tampering was

(02:30):
well worth it. Yeah, every single pennyright he makes them go.
But listen, clearly what we'll have a lot on the
life and and and history of Jalen Bronson, look back
at his career. Get nice, Get Tom Ronaldi to do
a nice little piece on him. You know, we'll talk
about you. Get him on the show, tells about Jalen
Bronson's life. Now I know he's in the Fox family.

(02:50):
And I mean this with all the love and respect.
Like regular sideline reports from Tom Rinaldi don't really work
the same way. Like when whenever he comes on the screen,
I'm expecting there to be a tear jerking story follow
so when he just gives me a quick injury update
or something said on the sideline it just doesn't have
the same residence. Now back to you in the booth,

(03:14):
It's like, what am I supposed to read? Hey, look
at the guy's got a long, storied, award winning career
and I have all the respect in the world for
the job he's done. It just it just hits different
right in the pregame, So just say, threw it to
Tom Ronaldi. What you know was coming backstory history, some
heartbreak and and some triumph over something like I knew

(03:36):
it was coming and it hit all the notes. We
had the swelling music in the background and everything we
needed to. So when I go to him on the sideline,
like they don't have time for this, No, let's go
to Tom and guys, it looks like, hey, Mahomes is okay,
the injury scared, He's gonna come out. He's ready to
go on the second half. Now back to you. You did,
But now, guys, I told you was okay, he's coming

(03:59):
out to play. God, you think when an Aldi talks
to his family like they all say, oh my god,
this is gonna be all, this is gonna be bad news.
They all carry a box attention around Thomas calling that's
the r storytelling though, right, is that the right? One
of the big things running around social media, you're a
big TikToker. One of the big trends is all right,

(04:22):
the music does everything, and they'll show the you know
dance and then they'll add the Cess the Muppet Show
theme song, or they'll add the Imperial March like you did. Right,
because because we were joking about it for the halftime
show and plenty on Rihanna to come as as the
show goes on. But as soon as the guys from
HAWF started storming onto the field, Yeah, and I mean

(04:46):
there was, it changes at all. Tom has me like
a gig at the dry cleaning on the way up.
It sounds sad. Can't I can't do it? I mean
he puts us all in a glass case of emotion. Jim,
have you seen this Ronaldi piece? Jim, You're gonna cry, Chim, Chim, Jim.
He did. Yes, very very weird for Tony Romo. But uh, listen,

(05:10):
let's let's talk about the elephant the room here right
off the bat, the fact that everybody's missing, which play
was the most important, the biggest screw job in the game,
the penalty. Let's let's talk about the penalty. Let's talk
about the It was in the script at it was
Arian Foster told everybody watch out for this holding penalty
on Bradbury in the final two minutes. What's gonna do it?
What about the other one they didn't call. Let's deal

(05:34):
with one at a time. Let's focus on one at
a time. Nobody can focus. Then we can, we can,
we can get it? Can we can do this one first.
I'll let Tom Ronaldi call you and you can be
all sad about the other call those other one. Uh,
the hold that helped cost the Eagles a chance to
win this game. The erroneous What people are getting wrong

(05:59):
about out this penalty a day after is oh, brad
Berry said he held him. Brad Berry said he held
the receiver. So it's over. Let's listen to brad Berry
talk about hey and many Hey, I committed a penalty
on that big, fateful play at the end of the game.
I mean, that's not you know, I was hoping he

(06:19):
would go over of course, big game, and it was
it was so they called him okay, right, So he
said it was all don't get anything to playing about.
Just stop number one. When is defensive back ever really
laid claim to yes, I committed that penalty. No, they
don't do it. Why is Brad Berry doing this? Why

(06:40):
do this right after he is doing a really classy thing.
And I can't give him enough credit for this because
he could easily have said, what kind of penalty is that?
Because it was marginal at best. It was a marginal
call at best at best, and it helped decide the
super Bowl. But after the game they could have They
could have gone and said, look at the refs. They
took it away almost they did all this, but instead

(07:01):
they knew nothing. He knew nothing was gonna change. Nothing
was gonna change that call. And he took up and said,
you know what, We're gonna do this the classy way.
And I'm gonna do this the classy way and say, yeah,
it was a whole I I got a I hope
I was hoping to get away with it. I didn't.
He called a penalty, and he sat at his locker
for twenty minutes and answered questions about that. And I
thought that was a full classy move that you don't
get enough of. Now. Yeah, you see something like that

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on almost every single play where a guy grabs a
jersey the very beginning of the route and nothing gets called.
That was a marginal call at best. This is the
truth of it. It was a marginal call. And to
say that, well, he admitted, no, he admitted it was
a foul because he didn't want it to be an
overwhelming story and have this dog the team and dog him.
Like I said, it was a great thing. But to say, oh, no,

(07:47):
not a penalty. No, it was a penalty and they
called the penalty and they didn't need to. And you you,
what you did was you blew the whistle and you
helped tilt the Super Bowl towards one team when the
outcome of the play didn't have anything to do with it.
Mahomes had thrown the ball way out of bounds. Nobody
was going to get to that ball. It was a
play that they were gonna go kick a field goal

(08:08):
and then the Eagles would get the football back, and
maybe they kick a field goal to tie the game
and it goes over time, maybe they don't. It's still
it's still up in the air at that point. But
to say that, okay, it didn't have any bearing in
the game, come on, I mean, if you want to
argue and say, well, what if they didn't call a penalty,
it would have been such a huge deal and the
chief would have got screwed. No, you would have saw
and said, oh, well, that happens on almost every play.

(08:29):
My homes threw the ball twenty ft out of bounds,
they still kicked the field goal to take the lead,
it would not have been as big a deal. And
and overwhelmingly what happened as a result is you took
a game that was so good and it was. It
was an incredible game. We and I watched together with
a few other people yesterday, and it could have gone
down as the greatest game, and we would talk about
so many different aspects of it. And instead what everybody's

(08:52):
gonna talk about what's gonna be The overwhelming takeaway of
this is that here the referees who decided the game.
That the big play, the play that everybody's gonna talk
about forever, is this holding penalty? Did this penalty need
to be called? Why did this happen? Instead of talking about, well,
the Chiefs did the adjustments they made and Jalen hurts
and everything, No, it's gonna be this is the call.

(09:13):
And you think the NFL e thing fans want that
for a Super Bowl like that to come down to,
we've had bet we've had problems with officiating. And guess what,
the number one play of the game is a big
time questionable call by the officials. No, they didn't need
to blow the whist. You could have put the whistle
in your pocket on that. You still would allow the
Eagles to kick a field goal take the game. And
we don't know how it would have gone after that.
But this was my thumbs on the scale. And here's

(09:33):
a penalty. And now the game is over and the
super Bowl is over. I hope you liked it. Yeah, see,
I'm I'm gonna disagree. I like your points in theory,
but in reality I throw them away, Uh, because I
don't remember the Super Bowl for this. There were a
million other moments in this game, as will chronicle over
the course of the night, and I guess it comes

(09:56):
down to this. And and even in the Fox broadcast,
I think Greg Olsen and Evan Burkhardt did a phenomenal
job overall. But the play I alluded to Bradberry, maybe
you got a little more of juju Smith Schuster earlier,
maybe a little more tug of the Jersey at that
point he was calling for the penalty towards the end

(10:16):
of the game where his progress on the first cut,
and Prayer even says this in the broadcast. He's impeded
that it's a hold that you don't suddenly say, all right,
rid of boys will be boys, stealing straight from the Simpsons,
because I have to like, what, what's what point in
the game do we decide that we can't that we

(10:37):
have to not call it. That's what we call pretty much.
It's not It wasn't a hold at all the rest
of the game. But so how's it a hold now?
If you're calling it, be consistent. It's not a hole.
That's a whole other difference. That's a different argument. We
decided to throw the front, but that's a different argument.

(10:58):
If it's not a call now, how is it a flame?
But that's what I'm asking. Earlier in the game. Did
they just decide to let it go? Or did he
miss it? That's how you're official asking the question, did
you did he miss it? Obviously there was a chosen
they chose not because you know that you know, they
could call stuff on different plays. They didn't. This is
how they're Okay, this is how they're appreciated. It was
a pretty quiet It was a pretty quiet. Questions if

(11:22):
other calls they made, and in my opinion, they blew,
but others that's the call that matter. There you go,
it's plays to this to the end game. But that's
the call. I'm saying, this doesn't matter here here, here
not hey, you know what, because it's now when the
two minutes, but maybe it's never getting to that point
if you adjudicated if the other thing the game, No, no, no,

(11:44):
I'm talking about other calls that were missed, not about
that hold. But I have to bring up this is
the let's decide to throw the flag on this on
a play that decides the super this one, I'm not
as incensed about when they threw it as opposed to
when they threw when did that flag actually come out?
Because here's the thing, because in terms of the play itself, right,

(12:07):
you have to throw that comes in the hold and
then the move and then the ball goes over. Well,
Mahomes is now trying to avoid a hit. So I
think anybody's saying that he's just throwing it away because
well it was gonna be uncatchable. That doesn't matter related
to a hold. For one, the other is the hold
impeded the play from developing as it might have. I'm

(12:28):
not saying he's on a dead sprint. I'm not saying
a guy can't get there and still make a play
on the ball there. But the fact of the matter
is it did cut off his route and changed his route.
The fact that you called it, yeah, be upset is
that is that the only reason they lost the game.
He wasn't gonna catch if if you don't hold him,

(12:48):
he wasn't gonna catch the ball. How do you know that?
Because Mahomes threw it twenty ft out of bounds. How
is he gonna catch thound three to the end zone.
But he's not gonna catch that ball. That was a
non catchable ball. But it's holding, So it doesn't matter.
But in the end, which Mahomes I believe the ball
thinking he was getting that call, He wasn't getting there.
He wasn't getting But it doesn't no, no, But it

(13:10):
doesn't matter if he can get there or not. Holding doesn't.
I know it does, You're right, but this is the
last you're talking the last nineteconds of the Super Bowl,
where you you're taking a call that could go either way,
and no, you're putting your thumb on the scale and saying, no,
you're the game is over. The game is over for
a marginal play if he tackles him and not. But
he had him and he let him gold, he let

(13:32):
him go. H. But but it wasn't a hold all
the way and the other rest of the game. But
it's a hold. Now, why is it a hold? Now? Well,
then now you're diving into conspiracy. I'm telling you that
it's not and that's a penalty. Why it's not a
penalty because it wasn't a penalty. No, But now we're
going to throw the flip. But you're you're making my
point for me by saying they could call it at
any other point. Every other was a penalty. But now

(13:52):
you go back and say, oh, but it wasn't earlier.
So I don't know what I'm what I'm saying. I'm
saying they didn't call it earlier. And that's what I'm
asking you. Did they sit or did they let it go?
They obviously let it go. No, no, I'm asking if
they did they literally think there were no calls where
guys were grabbing jerseys, and they could have thrown the flag.
That didn't happen. Did they missed the tug on the jersey?
There they did? They make the entire time, Mike, why

(14:16):
now they become a Chiefs fan? He bet now he
picked the Chiefs to win the Super Bowl. That's why
he's happy. That's why he's going to because everybody's forging
to get money from the script that everything else that
happened in the game. But there's one play you got
residuals from about the seven points Jalen Hurts gave him
he or the other seven points that they didn't get
to keep because of a bad call on the Sanders fumble.

(14:37):
Wait that then went through a big drive that netted
an Eagles field goal. I have aryan Foster script here
that says Harmon defends the call. After the day is over,
and he gets one one third of one half of
one percent wire money to his bank. Well, with the
billions and billions of dollars bet and transacted, I'd get

(14:59):
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(15:19):
and Flora j what's happening, buddy? How you doing? What's
going on, gentlemen? Well, what's going on, gentleman is we
just had a twelve minute discussion about the flag on
James Bradberry. That's throne? Where are you on it? Had
twenty four hours are gone by, the dust is settled?
Where are you on this? Well? I mean, look, they
were calling that game a certain way through the entire game,

(15:42):
including a play earlier in the game when even more
officials had a direct view on it, where you know,
Bredberry made some contact with Juju Smith Schuster and there
was no call. So I can appreciate him saying, yeah,
I tugged on him, but he tuggled few guys earlier,
and there had been a lot of tugging going on

(16:04):
and it didn't seem to matter much up until it did.
And furthermore, like Tyreek Hill wasn't getting to that ball
let alone, Jujuice Smith Schuster, I mean that ball it
was kind of thrown it away to me, I mean,
and and as accurate he was seven or whatever. That

(16:25):
thing went out of the back of the end zone,
so it wasn't gonna be catchable anyway. So yeah, it
seems like one of these things is not like the other.
Didn't decide the game. No, wasn't a huge factor in
the game, absolutely, and and it you know, eliminated any

(16:47):
chance for the Eagles to have a meaningful drive to
attempt to tie the game. And that that was not
a past that was thrown to be caught. That was
a past that was to own to see if we
get some kind of call, and they did. And again
I'm not saying it's the worst call in the history

(17:07):
of the world, but in light of how that game
was called and the magnitude of that game and what
the what tone the officials had set for the previous
you know, fifty nine minutes, Oh it's not I'd say
it was sub optimal. And honestly, what I think is

(17:28):
even more shameful on the league for us to be
talking about, even above and beyond the officials, which pretty
much suck all the time, how is that game planned
on the surface where nobody like what I saw tweets
day of the game from the league crowing and boasting

(17:49):
about how much money they spent on you know this
grass and where and how they kept it. They knew
when to keep it underground and wanted to put it
out in the desert heat. And we've got it on
palettes that we spend I don't know millions of dollars
to have this, and they're bragging about it, and meanwhile
it becomes a total s show and people are changing

(18:09):
their cleats multiple times, and they're trying to run plays
where you don't have to stand on the colored part
of the grass because the colored part of the grass
is garbage. I mean, this is a twenty billion dollar
a year industry, and we don't know how to snap like,
we don't know how to spot balls. We don't know
what's really a first down and what's not. We're using
chains and eyeball test. We're playing on surfaces that are garbage.

(18:33):
We have part time officials adjudicating this, and we're all
supposed to just be like, yeah, this is totally normal,
like this makes all the sense in the world, Like, yeah,
sure of course, why not. Well, the Cheffer's crew, letting
crew all the nine penalties called. So I mean we
hit the under on that. A lot of overs come
through because nobody being able to get any footing. Jason

(18:55):
gave us a lot of points, took away the Eagles
pass rush. Yeah, I mean, I don't think people knew
they were playing on ice, but they found out eventually.
For all the sports, you think about this, like when
you watch the World Cup and they go, oh, we're
gonna change the ball. Well wait a minute, why you change?
Why you change about? Like the players don't like the ball.

(19:16):
We're gonna change the ball? In the NBA? Why are
you doing that? The players don't like it? It's too slippery.
It's like we have to do something. It's like one
of those we have to do something because we feel
like we're not doing anything. So here's a surface that
nobody can stand on. Everybody's slipping and falling, and we're
changing cleats and look here, my homes is going to
these cleats, and how Hurts is going to the Jordan
cleats and well they saw it hurts between the first
and second quarter, right went to the three quarter and

(19:38):
whatever else? Like did they not test the paint? I
feel like they like the grass, but no paint tests. Jay,
It's like, why do we why do we have this? Boy?
This surface is so slippery and such an important game.
I feel like that's something that happens way too often
now crazy make it all make sense, you know what
I mean? Like I I really so to what this

(20:00):
league does is backwards and baffling. But you know what,
when you have a monopoly, you get away with this stuff.
Like I mean, I don't even know who's the next
closest league to them, is it MLB is at the NBA?
I mean we don't even know, right, Like they're so
far like they they have this country and really this
continent so on lockdown, like it's it's almost like, well

(20:25):
we can you know, we we can do what we
want and it doesn't really matter, and we can make
stuff up as we go along, and we we can
do all these ridiculous, you know, sort of um shenanigans,
and everybody's just gonna it's almost like they don't mind
being the heell you know what I mean here because
we're here, we're sitting here talking about all their bologny, right,

(20:47):
all the stuff they bleeped up, but we're still talking
about them. And I just almost feel like they're at
the point where it's like, as long as you're talking
about us, as long as we're dominating the sporting landscape,
even on a day when nothing's actually happening in our
league and all these other things are happening. I mean,
I don't know, like maybe they're cool with that, like
maybe that's what they want to be. I don't know,

(21:08):
but it is like mind boggling, mind boggling the way
these games are officiated, the way even again, just balls
are spotted, first downs are called, you know, guys throwing
little blue bags like oh, spotted here, spotted there, the
eyeball test from part time officials. I mean whatever, well

(21:31):
we still walk away with another clear case of what's
a catch not a catch? What's completing the process, what's uh,
why is it different on the hash versus the sideline,
et cetera. Like all of that is just uh the
next subplot to how we go into Yeah, it's it

(21:52):
just like it never really ends, right, I mean it
there's sort of always the always a subplot, you know,
That's why they're in seasons. There always is, yeah, I
mean they're there there, there always is. Well, look as
you told us last week, you know Super Bowl that

(22:12):
it goes into the off season, the quarterback carousel and
all this, and now the day after it's okay, the
super Bowl and the champagne is drying and it's Aaron
Rodgers is going total darkness, and Lamar Jackson the Raven
said they would entertain trade offers for him over the weekend. Hey,
suddenly I'm feeling great about the Jets getting a quarterback Jason,
even even if it's if it's not Aaron Rodgers, I'm

(22:33):
feeling pretty good about him. Well yeah, I mean, you know,
one of these years, you guys, will you have a
quarterback who is better than the one best quarterback in
the league. Like that eventually happens. So where where's Rogers

(22:53):
gonna end up? I mean, there's money that Vegas. I
have always thought its Vegas. I think it will be Vegas.
Now we've seen the outward campaigning, right, We've seen Davante
Adams and even Josh Jacobs who was one ft out
the door, except he doesn't because they're gonna franchise tag him.
You know, he's now reaching out and saying I think
that you know, that would make me more inclined to
want to be here. It's it's a fast track, right,

(23:19):
it's a dome. Um, It's a city that I think
he can be okay with. He can live up in
the mountains right here. I mean, I think it's kind
of Nevada's up his alley. It's similar to Wisconsin in
a lot of ways. It's not a huge media market,
you know what I mean, it's not you can kind
of disappear. Um, you don't have to worry about you know,

(23:42):
Page six running around with you or TMZ running behind
you and looking through your garbage to see what's going
through your body and what hasn't. And they've got all
the pieces offensively, you know, the offensive line could use
a little help. Sure, but you start looking at you
look at the underneath guy. He's got the Randall cob

(24:04):
in renfro Right, he's got a better tight end then
he's probably ever played with me to take a Tanyan
and guys like that. But that's no Darren Waller. He's
back with his guy, Davante Adams. He's got the dude
who led the league in rushing. I mean, I you know, like, yeah,
the defense has got to get a little better. But
at this stage, it's kind of about like him, you

(24:25):
know what I mean. Like it's about him kind of
flexing his muscles and you know, him being able to
pad his stats. And if they lose because they can't
get any stops, I mean, so be it. But I
did my job, you know, I'm back at my football
cards straight. So I always drafted him in fantasy. They're

(24:46):
gonna score twenty eight anyway. I just hope they lose.
Being a Bears fan, of course in Chicago, that was
always the deal. Now Smith's about to cry because of
what you just laid down there. So what's he getting?
Is he getting Tannehill or Lamar Jackson's finally, Hey, they're
thinking about they're thinking about it. I mean, look, I
think the Ravens would rather trade into the NFC. You know,

(25:09):
I don't think their GM has the stomach to actually
have to face Lamar Jackson or have Lamar Jackson keep
them out of the playoffs, or have Lamar Jackson knocked
him out of the playoffs. But I mean, if Woody
Johnson is slinging it, you know, and he's letting it
all hang out, and this is a trade, that's again
gonna be done by owners It's not going to be
done by um the gms. Like you're talking about the

(25:30):
amount of money it's gonna cost, and like it's gonna
it's gonna be an ownership deal. Whether it's Blank or
whether it's Temper or whether it's Woody. Uh yeah, I
mean they should they should be hoping for Lamar Jackson.
They should be wishing for Lamar Jackson. Um. You know,
outside of that, you know, I don't know, Tannehill um Brissette.

(25:56):
I kind of think Garoppolos headed into Miami, but it
could be, you know, it could be something like Garoppolo there.
It's not a rich and robust market, you know, for
for quarterbacks. It's it's just not um, you know, would
kind of makes sense. It took you a while to

(26:17):
get to that. It would be. It would be rich
on a lot of levels. But Gino is not leaving Seattle.
I would be shocked if Gino left Seattle. UM. But honestly,
I think it's I think more I think it's Deir
Carr I do. I mean, if their car absolutely was

(26:39):
sold on being in New Orleans, Satan thought that was
the best thing in the world for him, that he
would you know, wave the no trade and that that
would have already happened. So I think it's gonna be
money will talk and and opportunity will talk. And who
can throw the most at him, who can make him
feel the most wanted, Who can you know, sell him
the most. And it wouldn't shock me if if Alter

(27:01):
that's the Jets, it wouldn't shock me at all. I
just think about him adopting a New York accent for
his press conferences now would be awesome. That he's on
Twitter at Jason Locking for that is at Jason lock
and for check out his latest on the Washington Post
Odyssey as well. Jay has always body appreciate it. Man.
We'll talk to you next week. Always my pleasure, gentlemen,

(27:21):
thank you. Be sure to catch live editions of The
Jason Smith Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern,
seven pm Pacific. All right, this is Jay Glazer. And
you may know me for the world of football or
fighting or even shows like HBO's Ballers. Well you don't
know is for my entire life. I have lived in
something I referred to as the gray depression anxiety. So

(27:44):
now I'm coming out with a new podcast, Unbreakable, a
mental health podcast with Jay Glazer where each week, well
we talk about mental health. I hope to describe it,
give it words. Listen to Unbreakable with Jay Glazer on
the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you
get your podcasts. Nick Sirianni needs to attend my off

(28:05):
season Jason Smith Final two Minutes of the half clock
management seminar Again. I do it like Top Gun. You
pretend to fly combat missions like they did a top Gun.
And so you're gonna be putting in real life situations
of of when to call time outs and when not to.
And I will show you just how to handle the
last two minutes of a half because and and if

(28:29):
you graduate, you get to symbolically throw dog tags off
of a jet carrier. You almost threw stuff at Fabriano's TV.
You were so I did. I did, but then I
realized I'd have to pay for it, and and and
to quote the great Rob Parker, I ain't paying for that,
So I'm not gonna do it. But Nick Sirianni and
the Eagles cast themselves a chance at more points before

(28:50):
halftime yesterday because they decided, oh, let's not use our
time outs. Let's not score two quickly. They had the
ball yesterday in the final two. It's the first half.
They got the ball back from the Chiefs and they
had the ball at their own thirty four yard line,
all right, their own are sorry, their own forty three
yard line. So okay, yeah, we have a lot of

(29:11):
time to get downfield. I get it. You know, we
have we got two timeouts, and we have a little
bit over a minute, and we have the ball to
forty three yard line. What did they do? They ran
one play. It took him twenty two seconds. Then they ran,
then they they they threw a pass deep that was incomplete,
and then they ran for a first down. Twenty more

(29:32):
seconds took off the clock. They had two plays that
they didn't use the time out, So suddenly the clock
goes from down to thirty five seconds and you're on
the Chiefs forty six yard line. This is what drives
me crazy, and I really every coach thinks the same thing.
They think, let's not score too early. Let's not give

(29:52):
the ball back to my homes. First of all, it's
not the end of the game. It's halftime. If you
can get a bleep and touchdown, do everything you can
to get up bleep and touchdown. What the hell is
wrong with you? Why were they running it like we
we need a field goal to win and we don't
want to give the ball back to my homes. So
had they done this, and I figured this out, had
they called time out after their uh first play with

(30:12):
a minute twenty two left and then their third and
one run for a first down with fifty five seconds left,
had you used your time out there instead of waiting
to use him at the end, you would have had
the ball and say that the plays went exactly the
same way. Right, the plays went exactly the same way
as they as they did in the half. You would
have wound up with the ball on the Kansas City
seventeen yard line with thirty five seconds left and a half,

(30:35):
and you have thirty five seconds to get a touchdown
or if it comes to it, you spike it and
you kick a field goal. But because Sirianni refused to
use time outs, because every coach thinks, well, we're getting
down the field, they all think the same thing. Every
coach thinks every play we're gonna get ten to fifteen yards,
and so we're gonna get down there and score so
early when they don't take into account. What happens if

(30:57):
you don't get a first down, you don't get ten
or fifty. What happened if there's a pen he pushes
you back ten yards? What happens if your quarterback gets sacked?
What happens if something that you're not accounting for because
it's the National Football League and it's a bleep in game.
What happens if something unaccounted for happens, which happens all
the time? So what do the cheap What did the
Eagles do? They're in a couple of plays. Some plays
took longer, they had a running play and something. What

(31:18):
are they doing at the end? They are jamming in
their time outs just to have enough time to kick
a field goal when they could have just used their
time outs to give them as much time to score
a touch and as they could. And maybe the game
is different because it's at least maybe it's thirty nine
thirty five. It's a touchdown the end of the first
half instead of a field goal. They had a chance,
but they did what all coaches do. They decide, we're
not gonna We're gonna take our time and then when

(31:39):
it gets to under thirty seconds, then we're gonna go.
Then we're gonna go fast, Like why you why even
do that? Why if you if you're not going fast?
But now we're gonna save We're just gonna go fast
in the final thirty seconds. And they screwed themselves out
of more points they would, I mean, thirty five seconds
left at the seventeen yard line with all the plays
being the same, had they used their time outs after
the first down play and after the third and one

(32:01):
play instead of letting twenty seconds take off the clock. No,
we want to go. We don't want to give it
back to my homes the end of the first half.
What is it matter if you get a touchdown? What
does it matter? What does it matter? How are they
gonna get down and get a touchdown or they may
get a field goal? Okay, you're still plus one. It's
a plus one point differntal for you. I don't get it. Yeah,
I think I agree with the At fifty five seconds

(32:21):
you get the first down reset. Now we've got the
the whole playbook. Now they've already burned one time out
before that, right, and that was one of the points
made in the broadcast something we were talking about as well,
trying to use UH and be judicious there. But once
you use the time out, it changes the rest of
the possession. Right, you're not running the same play as

(32:41):
you're being cognizant of where you're at on the sidelines, UH,
and you're going to a different um, perhaps different bag
of tricks altogether. I didn't think it was as egregious.
You you just wanted to uh, really make sure that
Syriana has signed up. Maybe maybe you've got something for
the kids. The kids can go to some some courses
and learn some other pieces along the way. But you

(33:05):
got the thirty five yard field goal. I think they
were happy to get their three and and not leave
any time on the clock for Ma Homes and company
at all. But what does it matter? What does it
it's the end of the first time. I don't know.
The first thing I'm saying this is this is the
classic coach logic. And what's funny and and this is
I think the larger point is it goes against the

(33:27):
normally aggressive Nick Sirianni approach to coaching, where you're trying
to maximize everything right, fourth down play, where are we
at the differential off of punts only gonna be about
ten yards, Let's go for it right, all of those
kind of things, and in this moment he doesn't. That's
I think the larger issue that it goes against his
normal instinct. I shouldn't be that upset because in the end,

(33:51):
it's twenty grand more for me because he's another coach
has to come to my seminar about the final two minutes.
I picked the change to win before the season started. Blank.
You be sure to catch live editions of The Jason
Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern
seven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I
Heart Radio app. Patrick Mahomes is getting a lot of
credit for the Super Bowl Championship yesterday. And yeah, I

(34:14):
get it. I mean he's at Disneyland today, he is,
and and look, Mahomes is all of a sudden his
ankles Okay, yeah suddenly what Harmon? What did they tell
you during the game? Fair and a liar? How injured
is Mahomes? His ankle up? But that's not about that.
But isn't that? Isn't that normally the thing you sell, sell, sell,
because then if things really turned against it. It's like, oh,

(34:35):
look what a warrior was Anyway, Yeah, he fought through it.
So either way you're gonna you're either gonna get up
to another level if you're able to pull off the
wind or the excuse making slash reasons with a very
small r you know, are there and laid out for you.
It's like, oh, you know what, he got it out
and he just didn't have it. Of course, the fact

(34:55):
that the Eagles defensive line was never mentioned. Yeah, well
and here's what was mentioned once. Look and I'll tell
you to chase him down. He's getting a lot of
credit for a super Bowl that he game managed, and
I'm not taking anything away, Well I guess i am.
But what I'm taking away is where all where the
credit for the Super Bowl should go to, And Mahomes

(35:17):
is getting a lot of it because obviously he's the quarterback.
He through for three touchdows when he was twenty one
out of seven opera, when he was when he was
on the field half game, and it's his it's his
second title, and his first five years are very brady
like with what he's done, and and it's some kind
of accomplishment. But when you are saying, hey, why did
the Chiefs win the Super Bowl yesterday? I'm not saying

(35:39):
Patrick Mahomes name people, the two people that I'm Michael
Bolton is one people. Why don't you just go by Mike?
The two people that need to get the credit that
why did the Chiefs win the Super Bowl? Andy Reid,
Eric b Enemy. This was their Super Bowl because what
happened in the first half was exactly what in the

(36:00):
first half against Tampa Bay a couple of years ago.
They had no way to get out of the pressure
that Tampa Bay's uh defensive front was putting on them.
They didn't have to blitz my Homes to keep them
in trouble. And what did the Chiefs do the entire
second half the same thing. Let's try to get Mahomes
free and you can throw a ball downfield. There was
no creativity, there was no jet sweeps, there was no

(36:21):
let's try something. Let's empty the playbook and try to
get the Chiefs back on track. And as a result,
ma Homes didn't even throw for a touchdown and it
was a completely dominant effort by Tampa Bay and winning
the Super Bowl to show you that life comes full
circle where were the Chiefs yesterday at halftime, Boy, nothing's
working for us. What do we do here? And whereas
against Tampa Bay it was more of the same things.

(36:43):
What did you see them do in the second half?
He saw a lot of of annalysts point out, hey,
so much pre snap motion. They did run some jet sweeps,
they ran some creative place they were in a couple
of plays they threw out of that had three tight
ends on the field. This was Andy Reid and Eric
b the enemy going Okay, this is we need to do.
We need to confuse the Eagles and and put them
on roller skates. And that's exactly what happened. They and

(37:06):
they made all these adjustments in the second half, and
they threw the kitchen sink at the Eagle saying, this
is what we think is gonna work. Let's move guys
around before the staff that Eagles don't know where to go.
The Eagles never adjusted, they never recovered. It's not that
suddenly Mahomes in the second half of his Boy, he
stood up at halftime and said, come on, guys, I
got you. And now suddenly Mahomes is unbeatable. No, Mahomes,

(37:27):
his touchdown throws, I could have made those throws. Guys
are wide open. The Eagles were completely discombobulated, and it's
Andy Reid and Eric b Enemy making those adjustments at halftime,
saying this is how we're gonna win this game. Because
there's a reason why you go from we can't do
anything in the first half to second half. Suddenly they're unstoppable.
Scores on every one of their drives, at another touchdown

(37:47):
at the end, but they kneel on the ball to
kick the game winning field goal. They were they were amazingly,
they were efficient, They were they were always a step
ahead of Philadelphia, who had no answer. Philadelphia's defensive law
line couldn't get in the backfield. They couldn't do anything
because they would get rid of the ball fast. Mahomes
would throw the ball short. A lot of what they
did against the Jaguars when Mahomes got hurt, and you

(38:08):
thought things would get a little crazy, and maybe they're
going out against Jacksonville and Jacksonvills going to the ANFC
championship game. But they did all of these things, and
Mahomes executed the offense. He didn't make so many throws
where you go, wow, only Mahomes can make that throw.
Mahomes keeping that play alive, kid, Mahomes doing this, Mahome's
finding Kelsey. No. A lot of it was Wow, these
guys are open and here's a big punt return from

(38:30):
Darius Tony. Mahomes didn't even throw for two yards a right,
so letting so so the whole narrative of my Homes. No,
Mahomes didn't do this. This was at halftime. This was
the coaches. This was read and the enemy saying, this
is what we can do. This is how we're gonna
win this game, and they did. These are the guys
deserve the credit. And if Eric the Enemy is ever
gonna get a head coaching job, this is when it's
gonna happen, because it's wow. Look at what they did

(38:51):
it at the Super Bowl there, we look at what
he did at halftime and be able to adjust in
the second half and look, Andy Reid, it's his offensive.
I get that. That's what holds Eric the Enemy back
a little bit is well, he's not really the main
play caller and how much of it is his idea?
But after this, like this is a shining moment. This
was things were not working and we adjusted at halftime,
so Peyton Manning can go jump in a lake with

(39:12):
I don't make any halftime adjustments. No, the coaching staff
makes halftime adjustments. You think they just sit around e
Orange just too or are they the ones making adjustments
and they're calling different plays in the second half? So yeah,
halftime adjustments are made, maybe not by you, by the
coaching staff is going Okay, how do we do this?
So you throw stuff out and you get creative, and
that's what won the game. I'm telling you. We're giving
Mahomes credit. Okay, that's great, but really this is an

(39:33):
Andy Reid Eric b Enemy Super Bowl. Yeah. I think
there's the third guy that has to come into the play.
As we discussed this, it was a piece I was
trying to find here as we're going through because I'd
read it earlier talking about the enemy and a play
they had used against the Jaguars, I believe, and that's
what ended up being those two touchdown throws where nobody

(39:56):
was in the vicinity of the receiver because they saw
that at the run the player in motion, the defenders
switched and it opened up the middle of the field.
And what did you see the middle of the field
one time wide open. The other was just all right,
just guided into his hands right standing all by himself. Uh.

(40:16):
And you have these huge moments for big time anytime touchdowns,
particularly when you look at sky Moore, the guy that
we kept waiting to be a factor all year. Well
there he was in the beginning. But but to your point, right, Andy,
heck has to get a lot of love too. I'm
thinking back to his score rookie card, Seattle Seahawks offensive lineman, uh,

(40:38):
and all the road traveled, and when we ranked all
the units outside of the special teams, which everybody kind
of threw up as a hey, there's a problem here, uh,
potential disaster for both of them. And you saw it
with the Cadarius Tony return uh and the missed field
goal by Butker early right, they scored the touchdown to
match the Eagles. Then they drive forty two yards and

(40:59):
he miss is this is the field goal. So there
was your attempt he keep on pace, keep And then
you have two hunts to end the first half. But
for an Andy hex group cree dump free had a
false start penalty, yet you had some other or m

(41:19):
botch snaps so fumbled are there? And then you had
Orlando Brown with a ball start. But the idea being
that that offensive line, we could talk about the surface,
we could talk about all those things. The reality is
Patrick Mahomes got to play clean, He got to create
running lanes for him on however injured his ankle is
or isn't. We we will just be left to speculate

(41:42):
about that. Although if he starts dancing around Disneyland before
the night's over, then maybe there's I'll be ready for
O T A S. But you're at Disneyland today, so
I think you're okay, Yeah, but you've been. But you've
been to Disneyland. How many thousands of people are running
around on carts but you could be and and he's
a a b I pea kind of thing. He's probably

(42:03):
not walking, but he's probably so like just on that
one foot plenty of medicated and gone to disney Land
after a rough day surgery. Well, his brother's dancing behind him,
that guy creeping into interviews. Whatever is the problem. But
now now you can get back on social media. It's

(42:24):
all fine. Now you get back on, it doesn't go
back on. But the the idea that the enemy had
this play in his back pocket and brought it to
everybody saying, all right, this will work. Let's let's trot
this out. And then not only they beat him with
it once right going to the right side of the field,
wide open end zone. They came back with the exact
same look, the exact same play to the other side,

(42:46):
and there was no adjustment on the Eagle side. So
right now, Eagle fans either hate Carl Scheffer's moore or
the outgoing defensive cord game for not picking up that
they were going to run the same play to the
other side. They didn't adjust on there. And that fact
that the chief said, we're gonna run the football. Wait,
we're gonna run. Yes, we're gonna run it. No, I
mean it was. It was a masterclass from from Read

(43:08):
and the Enemy last night. But yeah, the Chiefs run
for a hundred fifty eight yards. They do. They run
for a hundred fifty eight yards in in multiple back sets,
which was more than the Eagles. The under cash there
it was one forty four. They only had a hundred
fifteen yards. And that includes all the brilliance of Jalen Hurts,
you know, because they had often stopped calling runs for
him on the other side. So let's start assessing some

(43:30):
more blame on the eagle side, not just and do
we have to go back and apologize to any of
the forty Niners, guys like Brandon a Yu saying that
you can get to the secondary, telling you you can
get them if you got a quarterback that can get
it there, because they had them all day long in
that second half, and even in the first half that
before the the injury and and those first couple of

(43:52):
possessions the ball pretty well right down the field. So uh,
here we are thirty five. But yeah, more credit for
the enemy. You can't get a coaching job now, then
something's truly wrong or there's something we're missing in the equation. Bingo,
just a giant question mark. Riddler
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